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What level are you at?
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>>108492611i was on the edge of independent NEET and my future ex wife pissed half of it away on chinese penny stocks
>>108492611>apartment for 200 bucksNo fucking way that's real in muttland, here in mapleland a room with 50 jeet roomates costs 500
>>108492712uh fucking based LMAO
>>108492726its not lmao the cheapest apartments in muttland are like $1,500 a month now thanks to the cheeto retardneeting only works when you live off someone else or government gibs
>>108492726ignore the other retard, he is probably jealous, 200 for a small apartment is completelly viable if you aren't in jewyork
>>108492712>my future ex wifeyour fault for marrying the wrong woman
Invoicing day. Just sent the invoice to my customer and wasted a hour just verifying everything is correct, as always. The fields in an electronic invoice are very limited so my only option is to put extra info in the description and hope they read and understand it.
>>108492726it's possible in the worst shit holes in southern and middle america
>>108492751how much did you bill them
>>108492758About 10k and after all taxes and other mandatory expenses I'll get roughly 5k on my bank account. This is not the gold mine I hoped.
>>108492784Taxation is theft.
>boss keeps asking to use AI more>use AI more, it really is not a tool to maintain a 8 years old legacy PHP project with a several thousand LoC long files, where all client code is in single 10k jquery code and html is full of dynamically concatenated strings with inline js calls >hallucinations, confusion, random bullshit>report that AI can't do shit except write some new auxiliary scripts>get assigned another project>now boss wants all the code to be generated via AI, with me just supervising>give it a simple task, fix all npm audit warning, ie: update necessary dependencies, fix any incompatibilities, fix code that broke after update>it struggles for a hour, can't figure out anything>make a dockerized claude agent team>execute it again>out of tokens>talk to boss, talk to managment>no answersWhen will they learn that micromanagment and tying hands of your own engineers is not very good for productivity?
>>108492726>you need 10k/mo to live comfortably but "groceries" for a single person is 300/mo/biz/ is full of children and cryptobros who do not know the actual value of anything
>>108492611Vagabond tier currently, I was NEET with Roommates but Trump has fucked the market lately
>>108492750who said I married her? it is still going to happen retard
>>108492875this is a thread for tech industry workers, leave
>>108492899retard
>>108492899the jsl keeps zapping /utwg/
>>108492611my salary is Made It but i have negative net worth because my house isn't paid off
>>108492916wtc the font used on this milspec shit, it is very satisfying and i work with a lot of this kind of gear
>>108492611i guess im unironically lower-middle class now, i make 60k before taxes but dont have any kids or concubines(male)
>started off at a bootcamp 4 years ago because of lurking /g/, was a neet after graduating from college>work at a big wall street bank now, around 150k total comp Sort of sad to think AI will make this impossible for everyone in the future
>>108493101No you didn't you larper
>>108493117It's true. To be fair, I graduated from a good college already so I can't say I was a true NEET with absolutely nothing on their resume. If you can think of a way for me to prove it to you that doesn't out me I'll do it. I worked in lower tier government consulting work for ~3 years (sub 100k compensation) and then took a job at the bank since I had experience and could pass leetcode interviews.
>>108493131Before>Was neet went to booty and got fat jobyNow>I went to good college, am a professional leetcoder, not a neet and also a faggotReally makes you think
>>108493207I was a neet after college like I said. Had some issues and ended up living with my parents, no job for a long time. It was all on me
>>108493256Ah, wealthy parents too. Anything else you want to share with us? Maybe your daddy is the CEO of the bank.
>>108492816You are retard and have no idea on how to use AI.
>>108493377How so? I personally use AI as a search engine and to generate small scripts and such. It's my boss who wants all code to be generated using AI.So, how do I archive that oh the knowledgeable one?
>>108492611Liberated wagie. Considering quitting my fancy six figure software job to go fly airplanes. I do have a wife and three kids though.
>>108492611Crazy math involved. Most people here are like 80k-150k+ on average. If you make below that we automatically know you are not in the US.If you make 80k+ USD in Asia or Europe you are killing it
Dogshit nigger general with no other value except bickering and shittening
>>108493704Lie not detected
>mfw watching the schizo/crackhead outside having the time of his life practicing Kung Fu (he's even doing the high-pitched HWOO WA-TAAAH and shit) or whatever with his imaginary friend/enemy
>>108493704this...is me
>>108493704This.
>>108493723I see myself in the mirror everyday and it's boring to live. I cannot imagine being as happy as that person outside of your house.
>>108493704just 2 more months and I'll be ready to start applying to tech jobs
>>108493405Use a code agent, like codex. Tell it to read the code and write documentation and a plan for the refactor. Make it write parity tests. Etc. Your boss is right that all the code can be AI generated
>>108493755Will do that. I doubt there is much to plan in terms of fixing npm audit and dependency conflicts but will see what it does once I get more tokens.
Oh shit, Google front-end team fucked up. MY CHARTTTT
>>108493755This. That guy is probably using the generic chatbot interface and copypasting output code into the project. You really need Codex or Cursor so your code agents get context from your project.>t. claude opus 4.6 on cursor managed to accurately extract requirements from some ancient legacy blob I needed to modernize from the ground up
Should I be massively worried if my executive is retiring? I had my VP retired before and I survived but getting my SVP feels even more stressful since I can foresee "BIG CHANGES".
>>108493850My turbojeeted trashfire of a department is on its 4th S/VP in 2 years
Yes, my job is to enthusiastically nod to Claude PRs, how did you know?
>>108493873yeah but like....did YOU personally get fucked? My VP left and we had a big organizational move but that was more corporation wide rather than just his shit but whole divisions got eradicated.
>>108493850Every time i have seen higher ups even as low as a program manager retire it has been a shit show.
>>108493878I went from a team of 4 white males to me and 6 jeets
>>108493879what do you mean by that? man im actually kinda nervous. I mean one thing that changed when I survived my VP retirement was that our old VP was very in the weeds of things and it was nice getting his attention on things low to the ground. my new VP....I don't think I've ever seen his face except for company meetings. I like never have any communication with him anymore. >>108493891ah fuck....
I fucking HATE "corporate girlies".Hours of meetings and endless yapping about NOTHING.
>>108493978They invented project managers for them and work has never been slower
>>108492611Wtf are those net worth distributions lmao, which retard made this1 mil means lower middle class? KEK
>>108494011you look like this
Are you ready for the new corporate structure every ai obsessed manager and ceo will be shilling within the next few months, /twg/?Get ready for the brave new world of "1 manager per 2 engineers" LMAO
>>108494133We look like this
>>108492611This image is retarded. It’d take 30 years to earn these net worths at these salaries and the images imply you’d be renting the whole time. You’re not building up any net worth in these situations.
>>108494147yes me on the right
>>108494152>>108494130>>108492733>>108492726SEETHING Poorfags
Oracle just laid off all my cousins
>The company is going to speak to you about the role. Please do not speak about the hourly rate we discussed. Only speak about the role details. Please reply with the rate confirmation and give me the exclusive right to represent you for this role. Thank you sir. I had the call and told them straight up what the rate was. The guy offered me a better rate to cut out the recruiter. Fuck him.
>>108494233im never getting a job if i have to compete with 30,000 oracles bro im so fucked
No one will give me a job
>>108494233Oracle is going to be remembered the same way people remembered sears in its last decade. A shit company that bleed to death trying to save itself with shitier products.
>>108494276I've been hearing this cope from retards who don't understand what oracle does for about 15 years now
>>108494300That's because they have been pulling out of everything they make. Even on the server side of things people have been moving away from oracle products for a long time. They sold off some government software program to some random company and that had to be replaced eventually with Cisco, thats just a personal example.
How do I deal with my boss using Copilot as a gotcha? He's using it for decision making and I just shrug my shoulders but I do kinda favor B because it works better for me but then Copilot will say A and he goes "yeah, Copilot agreed with me" and I'm just like ok? kewl?
>>108494317>bro they've been pulling out of everything they have and this magically made them one of the 20 largest companies in the US
>>108492570LinkedIn is absolutely deranged.
>>108494270start ur own business9-5 is cooked unless ur a doctor or something
>>108494321Just say "OK boss." and do what he tells you to. Your job is to follow orders.
>>108494409But i thought my job was to post booty hole pictures on instagram while pretending to work?
Read this prog. Thought of /g/.
>>108493784why the fuck line go up if oil price high
>>108494440Honestly the only thing left for us is pasketti
>>108494429Start your own business if you want the freedom to choose your tasks.
>>108494409I do but I do hate the smug "I knew it" type thing..... getting a little under my skin a bit.
I fell asleep right after work again and woke up at 9pm.
>>108494482proof?
>Finally, I got approved for rhel summit>and was going to go in my best suit>This year's in Atlanta Do I have any chance to meet fellow animals there or should I ask manager for pardon and a chance to get approved thenext year?
>Dear Anon,>Congratulations! We're pleased to inform you that you've successfully passed all assessment hurdles for this job announcement.
>>108494457>own business >choose your tasksOh no no no no
>>108494482I wonder if I have narcolepsy, sometimes my knees get weak when I'm sleepy, which is apparently called cataplexy.
>>108494533Might be an age thing. Paranoia straight up runs in my family with varying degrees of extremes. Gets worse with age no surprise there. Also never really been wrong with it so it's like an over active instinct.
>>108494519isnt that a good thing
>>108494606no it means i might get a j*b
>>108492611110K CAD so not even cutting groceries
>>108494606It means he has to work. Instead of having mommy pay for tendies and bionicles, he now has to pay for it.
>>108494623so why did u even apply if u didnt want the job? or show up to the interview lol
how do i salt my passwords easily?
>>108494645dad kept bugging me to get a job....
>>108494724sha256(Date.now()
Iran has issued a threat against the workers at FAGMAN and friends.>IRGC Warning to the Aggressive US Ruling Regime: You have ignored our repeated warnings regarding the necessity to stop terrorist operations, and today a number of Iranian citizens were martyred in terrorist attacks carried out by you and your Israeli allies; and since the primary element in the design and tracking of assassination targets is American information technology and artificial intelligence companies, in response to these terrorist operations, the main institutions involved in the terrorist operations will be legitimate targets for us.>We advise employees of these institutions to immediately stay away from their workplaces to preserve their lives. Residents of the areas surrounding these terrorist companies in all countries of the region must also leave a one-kilometer radius from their locations and go to a safe place.>Companies that actively participate in terrorist designs will be subject to countermeasures for every assassination operation. Announced as follows:>Cisco>HP>Intel>Oracle>Microsoft>Apple>Google>Meta>IBM>Dell>Palantir>Nvidia>JPMorgan>Tesla>GE>Cymer Solutions>G42>BoeingInteresting that Amazon didn't make the list. Guess AWS is less glowie than we thought.
>>108494851> FAGMAN drones get combat danger bonusnot on my 2026 bingo card ngl
>>108494851
So why did Trump attack Iran anyhoo?
>>108494885unironically probably israel
>>108494842Don't you have to get the salt? So you use account creation date or something?
>>108494885have you been in a coma for 8 years or something
>>108494851>Iran realized how to cause actual damagecongratsalso, more jobs for tech workers, so, yay!
>>108494913They just have to be a random ideally 128bit values that can be generated without collisions.
>>108494885Israel has the president of the United States by the balls.
>>108494851>palantiroh nooo don't hit them anyone but them
>>108494885the supreme court overturned the tariffs so this was plan b
>>108494885He was ranting and raving about Iran in fucking 2011 none of you "people" can read
>>108494851oddly, AMD isn't in the list.
>>108494851nice of iran to include /twg/!
>>108495015we can read the democrat slop sites that dug up that quote and rehash it as an own, but we know that trump talks out of his ass 99% of the time so why would that one time count?
>>108495008see i used to think that palantir is a retarded company because why would you use their software. but the reality is that most companies have very similar problems and inefficiencies. so if you can solve a particular problem for one company you can just sell that same solution to loads of other ones. not with palantir, but i've seen this first hand with vendors for software that my company uses. we'll ask questions to representatives and then 6 months later they push some new subscription addon or whatever that fixes the thing we were talking about. kinda rubs me the wrong way actually.
>>108494951Yeah genning and hard coding makes more sense, first thought was baiting by generating a new salt per user password so when they try to login it would fail as you don't have the exact microsecond of Date.now() but then knowing how schizo some of the opsec guys are, it almost sounded plausible.
>>108494927Iran being the end of RTO policies was not on my Bingo card.
>>108495040That's cool and all, but they're a grift colluding with the government to create a surveillance hell.
>>108494885All must bow to globohomoOnly reason Russia hasn't been attacked yet is they have nuclear weapons
>>108492733nigger, what were the prices before the president entered office?
>>108494773just take the job and save the money nigger. You live with ur parents and probably have zero expenses..literal gold mine, take that money invest it and ur set.
>>108492733i wishthe apartments in my area that arent filled with niggers in the gheto are 2k min for 1bed1bath 700sqrft. Ive seen some go for 2500 plus parking not included lol
Lost three more colleagues to the jeet hordes today. I’m EE but they were web and the like, gonna miss discussing with people who can talk about things other than transformersFuck we’ve lost so many
>>108495183nukes aren't real thoughbeit
>>108494885I mean for one Israel told him to. And the other reason was that Iran really does suck big time. He still went about it the worst possible way. Keep the canal open then no one would've cared.
>>108492570Oracle fired 30k engineers including those in India. How can people keep sticking their heads in the sand when it comes to AI?
>>108495548Yeah can't but help but feel like a honey as opposed to vinegar approach would be more effective given the populace was already trying to overthrow the violent people in power.What if we all paid for all Jews to move to get to move to Israel at once?
>>108495566>the populace was trying to start a color revolutionHmm I wonder why that is
>>108495139You're already in a surveillance hell, you just don't recognize it.
The more I customize Claude the more I realize how fucking over it is vor the majority of devs.Especially those who refuse to adapt
>>108495601>Especially those who refuse to adaptWhat difference does it make if one adopts it or not when the field is shrinking regardless? You guys always talk as if being highly knowledgable in stuff like agent swarms will give you job protection which it doesn't.
>>108495601I was waiting forthe bubble to pop or at least shrink before investing but I'm starting to think that will not happen...
>>108495609>What difference does it make if you go with the flow or try to thrash about against it If you aren't retarded the answer should be self evident>You guys always talk as if being highly knowledgable in stuff like agent swarmsIt's a tool, not a fucking science. You don't need to be "le highly knowledgeable" in it to use it to your advantage. It's like some retard refusing to use debugging tool using "what's the point in being highly knowledgeable about breakpoints and snapshot inspection" as a weak excuse.
>>108495609The field is not shrinking at all. Companies destroyed the ladder for juniors, but that will only benefit us. A retard with Claude will still produce retarded output
>>108495625>If you aren't retarded the answer should be self evidentThe answer is that adoption will be enforced either way. It's only a choice for people who aren't professional software devs.>It's a tool, not a fucking science. You don't need to be "le highly knowledgeable" in it to use it to your advantage.Actually I do chat with my principle dev tier friend quite a lot and the shit he sets up is insane. This goes beyond inserting your requirements into a chat and watching the model reason and occasionally asking for feedback. There's entire AI pipelines at work.
>>108495614It will happen, but probably not to the extent some codemonkeys and other retards cope it will. There will be no "aha, ai is actually le useless" moment for example, we're already way past that. There also won't be a winter in terms of productivity gains, because we're just starting to actually juice the LLM capabilities properly through proper interfacing.I do think there will be a deflation in hype though, because LLMs definitely won't lead to muh singularity or hyper intelligent AI. But that doesn't mean firing sprees will stop happening, they'll only increase in the near future
>>108495639A mid-tier dev with some business knowledge and basic understanding of programming will be able to output anywhere from 10-300% more code in the same time period as before. Even with more projects being started, the overall market will decline a fair bit.
>>108495650>There's entire AI pipelines at work.You've probably never bothered to look into it and think it's indistinguishable from black magic. "Advanced" ai workflows are retardedly simple and usually are just a bunch of scripts, cronjobs and markdown files glued together, maybe with a bunch of external tool integrations on top.
>>108495657China is betting on the current approach not leading to AGI so they rather focus on minimizing cost and maximizing performance of their models and using them in robotics. If the US-based companoes do not achieve AGI, all that will remain are incrementally advancing models at ever-increasing prices.
There's more than enough jobs for everybody if you just make it illegal to hire nonwhites.
Brothers, I have been at my current company for 6 years. Is it a good time to switch? I am finally getting bored of this place, and the new C suites are literal retards. My wife is a millionaire so it isn't like I need the job, but I'd rather not be unemployed for a lengthy stretch of time. How long is the job hunt these days for software engineers?
is it a bubble?
>>108495704oh, you are a JIDF bot. got itbtw, this is not the place for this topic. go shill your crap elsewhere
>>108495827Took me 3 weeks, 15 years experience C/C++. I really should have taken a month off before looking but you faggots said the job market was bad.
Does anyone else hate their job? Do all software jobs suck? Did I ruin my life?
>The ethical framework I will be using to develop a potential response to this issue is deontology. Deontology asserts that morality is based on duties, rules and intentions rather than consequences. A rule is moral if it can be consistently willed as a universal law that all rational beings could follow without contradiction. The moral rule I would suggest be followed in this scenario is “everyone should be able to provide for themselves”. I can’t imagine a situation where this rule wouldn’t be willed by rational beings. Thus it would be a moral imperative to adjust the system such that it could assess different resume formats. Utilizing a utilitarian framework might suggest a different response. It could be argued that a disabled and non disabled person’s happiness are equally valuable and as such only spending resources on developing the system such that it uses only the most widely used resume format would provide the most net happiness.Eh, Kant was a pretty cool guy I guess.
>>108495929I don't hate it. It's ok.
>interview scheduled for an hour>interviewer joins, says his name, goes right into first question>ok>starts with concepts, think I aced them>goes into language specifics, c# which I'm not as familiar with>ok>does a couple behavioral questions>ok>you have any questions for me?>gives short answer to my first question>any questions about the interview process?>ummm, next steps?>another round or a rejection, ok goodbye>whole thing was like 15 minutesI don't think there was really a job
>>108495929>one of the most coddled, comfortable and easiest job in human history>waaaah I hate it I wish I were shovelling gravel
>>108495946>child rapists should be able to provide for themselves
>>108495952>which I'm not as familiar withYou literally spelled out why you failed, retard.
just put your 'personal project' section in your resumeyou DO have personal projects to show off, r-right???
>>108496036By the time I graduate I'll have a pretty cool full stack mern project I'm a shoe in right? Should I make a c64 game in basic instead and maybe apply to system or device programming stuff?
>>108496100>Should Iyou should do what your heart desires and not trouble anons like me with our opinion because only you know how cool your project is
>>108495609I think the getting left behind narrative makes no sense, the AGI chasing narrative also makes no sense.If you want to use AI because it's helpful at the moment, you can do that, but you will not be left behind if you don't. There isn't much to learn and the tools are getting easier and easier to use anyway. You can just not use AI and then when you actually need it just learn how to use it over a week. This isn't like normal programming, where building your skills can take years.Or you can play around with a 20 dollar subscription until you need more.The same for AGI, the most effective way to do this would be to invest more money in research and also wait a few generations until GPU improve further, brute forcing compute on current gen hardware with current gen algorithms is a horribly inefficient way of doing things.
@108496036No I don't work for free
>>108495657I suspect that if the bubble pops, it will be because of prices, but then in 10 years or whatever we will have better GPUs and it will stick that time.
@108496123>personal project = working for freeimagine being THIS retarded. no wonder you are unemployed.
>>108495845>senior dev in the most soulless high demand corpo language imaginableyeah that's not what people are complaining about, have fun with you 90k a year job helping build a bean counter system for "executive ball bearing solutions, inc." in oklahoma
>>108496167Well I'm west coast so it's $150k but the rest is not too far off the mark kek.
>>108496167What language isn't soulless? C++ is the most fun I ever have programming.
What is the most fun language to code in, in an ENTERPRISE environment?For me it's either kotlin or scala. Haskell too but I've literally never seen Haskell used for enterprise purposes
>energy supply shock >AI shills suddenly in overdrive Anybody else notice this
>>108496186rustjavascriptkotlinc#goswift
>>108496202Interestingly I'm mostly writing Go in the new job. I prefer C++ though, it's what I did almost exclusively in the last job.
>>108496202>javascript soulful>C++ soullessBait
>>108496202C# is the only non-meme language on this list.
>>108496231>just because a language is super easy to work with and does everything but doesn't have a cool unique thing that it does best but also using it is like putting a mason jar in your ass sometimes means it's soulless
>>108494152>>108494130>>108492611Holy shit does not a single person ITT understand how the pic works or even bother to read anything but the numbers?The net worth listed is the net worth you need to be able to withdraw the ammount of money per month/year losted on the left. So, pet example, it lists 840k nw as the minimum you'd need to be able to withdraw the monthly ammount needed for a lower middle class lifestyle per month.It is a chart of financial independence meaning that you'd be NOT WORKING. Stop talking about fuckibg salaries.Jesus christ how do you retards even get through a single .md file if you don't understand this shit?
>>108493281>Ah, wealthy parents too.Kek you don't need qealthy parents to be able to live with them. Just don't be a fucking leech.
>>108493704True, but the other tech career spaces are either more insufferable, filled to the brim with indians or both in the case of blind.
>>108495929Don't listen to the retards.Spending 8 hours or more in front of a screen working on shit you don't give a fuck about while having to worry constantly about corporate bullshit and layoffs is about as anti natural for a human being as it gets.Some people get used to it eventually, some never do.In any case, the world of tech is so obsessed with FIRE for a reason. Very few people actually enjoy it. To most, it is a way to earn a good paycheck that they tolerate or at least don't hate enough to change careers.It's gone from a career that was only pursued by people that loved it, to a career pursued almost exclusively by people that don't actually love it in such a short ammount of time.
>>108495929Software jobs are all very different, some really are easy, some are ultra hard. It also depends on whether you actually care about the code and product, that will stress you out even more.
>>108496397No mate coding 3 hours a day is not a hard job just because you hate jeets or the codebaseRetail in a nigger zone is awful, a call center is awful, a coal mine is awful, nurse in a psych ward is awful. You’re just a bitch
today was hell, I drank way too fucking much last night and had to wake up for a 7am call with jeets who barely speak english that lasted 4 hours long and I'm pretty sure I was still drunk in the morning. Hungover as hell. Fuck alcohol im done
>>108496592>7am call with jeets who barely speak english that lasted 4 hours longwtf
>>108496635they had questions and had to speak through a translator half the time
>>108495999I gotta spam apply to everything m8Its not my fault they offer me an interview when my resume only has a year of c# experience from years ago
>>108496592I gave up alcohol on Ash Wednesday after several years of alcoholism (some days starting drinking after waking up before eating anything) and I'm feeling a lot better and more alert after having a similar bender where I was still drunk at work the next morning talking to people in various APJ countries.You ultimately have to do you, but I believe in you. It isn't worth being that drunk, and it doesn't get any easier with age (both to tolerate in the moment and your health).
>>108496553this is correct if you don't suck ass at your job. i will code on shit i don't give a fuck about my whole life before working retail are you nuts
>>108496699>gave up alcoholbased>on Ash Wednesdaycuck
im a zoomer. out of my high school friend group:>friend A (hispanic) went to college for law, changed majors to CS after 3 years, is still unemployed after 6 years of college>friend B (thai) did an associates in logistics or some shit and now manages a warehouse for a medium sized company>friend C (white) got a 4 year degree in marine sciences or some shit and works at some government wildlife park or some shit>friend D (white) got a 4 month internship at microsoft in college, moved to seattle, got laid off, and now works at a small software company>friend E (white) is a drug dealer that now lives in miami and last I checked got arrested for aggravated assault>friend F (hispanic) got a degree in business and I presume is unemployed (can't see shit on his linkedin)>me (white latinx) didn't go to college, had 2 comfy remote software jobs for 4 years, got laid off and can't find shitit's grim out here
>>108496713>white latinx
>>108496592horrific stuff, I always make sure my heavy drinking days are before worthless days where I can just lay comatose on my couch
>>108496713I know two turboNEETs i thought it was rare.. guy one has never had a job dropped out of uni, did 2 classes at CC and is NEET now still at 29guy 2 dropped out of uni, worked as a cashier, stopped and now just Goons to porn and is NEET. His brain is so fucked he cant even hang out without referencing porn or sex every time he sees a woman. He is 28
>>108496713>white latinxYou fucking retard.
How do I get into one of those so called adult day care office jobs with a fancy title? I have no idea what most of them do and my resume only has technical stuff on it
>>108496635>>108496671I mean, who the fuck has 4 hour long calls?
a-a-any Business Analyst bros in the thread?
>>108496713its so comically bad now its unbelievable lmao. In 2021 i put in like 15 applications total. Got a two stage interview and offer.now its just dead silent every application.
>>108497306it's*
>>108496307How does owning a nice house (about a mil these days) get you to 45k a year of free spending? Your defense of this random image is retarded unless you made it, and even then you should be taking this criticism as feedback.
>>108497496You leverage it against the house. Just take out money and use the house as collateral. EZ.
>>108492611misleading image$45K/yr to be "middle class?"That's very fragile, forces you to live in a small city or a rural area if you don't want rent killing your budgetNo margin for mistakes or bad luck
My coworkers get lower middle class money for life from fake disability from their 4 years military and it makes me seethe than they get that and make more than me. I'd only be at vagabond
It's PI planning week. In the past, the company would buy us lunch every day during the week, but about a year ago, they stopped, but only for my location. The other locations still get lunch. For the last few PI planning weeks, I tried to ask around and find out if we could order lunch too, but I never really got a solid answer, and so we didn't order anything. This time, I sent an email to the higher-ups and asked if we were approved to order lunch. I never got a reply. I've tried asking others, but it's all just going in circles, and still no one can tell me if our location is approved or not. The other location is still ordering food, though.Do I have a right to be mad about this? I know I sound like a spoiled child, complaining about not receiving free food, but I don't think it's fair that the other location gets it but not us.
>>108497930you're chasing the pennies instead of focusing on the dollar
>>108497941no idea what you're talking about
>>108495946> A rule is moral if it can be consistently willed as a universal law that all rational beings could follow without contradiction>A critique of pure reasonYeah very cool guy that guy
>>108497960and that's the problem
I'm on such a fucking pleb salary
>>108498078im paid min wage with cto responsabilities, fight me
>>108498140I'm paid maximum wage
>>108496699Smoking was to expensive and fucked up my sleep so now it's just alcohol, coffee and dark chocolate. On other news i also rarely if ever eat out anymore which means my cooking has improved alot.
>>108499043I think whats worse is that i use O'Reilly at work for certification studying and i see nothing but indian books being spammed. The Chink books are actually pretty detailed and cover just about any dumbass question you could ask from a textbook but the indian books are missing alot of details required to pass certifications.
>>108499043what's the issue? jealous?
>>108499043how do you find these? i went to his profile he only has 1k connections, what in the fuck
I got CISSP three years ago (well I passed the exam three years ago and got endorsed a few months later) and it has done nothing for my career. I consider the cert a joke, but I had long heard hiring managers and shit bend over backwards to interview CISSPs. Was I lied to? Did that change recently and I missed the boat? Am I just doing something wrong?
>>108499066W-what is a normal number of connections?
>>108499187CISSP is a supporting cert with RHEL and other security certs. Are you Defense or Offense Cyber Security is the better question? It's like getting a MBA and wondering why you didn't get promoted in work.
My coworker is switching from sysadmin to a networking position and will probably make more than me now. I'm happy for him but I little bit jealous.
>>108499215>CISSP is a supporting cert with RHEL and other security certs.I don't know what you mean by this desu. >>108499215>Are you Defense or OffenseUnemployed lmao but I have only worked defense and engineering (as in building a SIEM for some project that got cut) and have no current intention of trying to switch to offense.
>>108499234Get your CCNP enterprise and become the manager. Hell go further and read(not take) A+/Net+/Sec+ then take CCNP. It will make the certification easier and the job app easier since you know the basics and basics is what gets people through the interview.
>>108499271Like with any certification path you need a handful of certs to progress beyond the basics. Comptia trifecta/CCNA/RHEL is where you can move pass bullshit jobs. CCNP is key however. For you if all you have is CISSP then getting RHEL/Sec+/CCNA would be ideal if you want to stay in Cyber security. If you cannot find a job then a NOC position is ideal for you. Government Helpdesk doesn't hurt either.
>>108499282I have CompTIA A+, Network+, Security+, Project+, Cloud+, CySA+, PenTest+, taking SecurityX on Friday, AWS CCP, Azure Fundamentals, CISSP, and some basic Linux cert I don't remember the name of. Network+ was the only one of those I consider educationally worthwhile, so yeah I should probably do CCNA. Damn, I'm supposed to be studying for SecurityX but now I just want to slam Adderall and go autistic in Packet Tracer. Haven't touched that since 2019. Before you ask, no, I'm not Indian.
>>108499368No way you should be jobless anon. I would hire you on a whim desu. If you are american then you should apply to these various websites provided that you don't have a criminal record. Then after you work there for a 2 years reconsider your certification path. https://www.clearancejobs.com/jobs?keywords=helpdeskhttps://www.gdit.com/careers/search/?q=Helpdesk
>>108499368Degree status????
>>108499381>No way you should be jobless anon.Yeah I agree. I know the job market is shit right now, but I must be doing something wrong, I just don't know what it is. I assume you're the dude I was talking to in the other thread about the Air Force Reserve. I had to go do some shit and the thread hit bump limit by the time I opened it again and I didn't feel like cross-thread posting, my bad. Anyway, my cousin's a Reserve IMA officer and he's shown me the light. Dude makes big money at his civilian job (unrelated to tech unfortunately) and manages to find a cushy TDY every year to ride the Reserve out to retirement. I think the Air Force has blown more on his per diem and lodging than they did on my paychecks (I was just a dirty enlistoid). I was actually talking to a Guard (I would prefer Reserve but she's the only recruiter who answered the phone) recruiter in 2024 but I broke my arm shortly afterward and never followed up with her. I don't have anything technically permabanning me from reenlisting, but I think I'm going to need waivers out the ass. My former boss is a Reservist, maybe I should ask him to ask the recruiting office to pick up their phone... not that I've called them in a few months lol, I'm really dragging my feet on that. I strongly regret not Palace Fronting. I'm all over the place with this, long story. >>108499470Master's in Cybersecurity and Information Assurance It bothers me every time I think about it because I consider cyber security to be two words, not one. Then again I spell cyberpunk as one word, but who's keeping score?
>>108499596>other thread about the Air Force ReserveI am the same dude. Apply for a clearance job i promise you with GDIT they will give you a job if you apply for CCC/Helpdesk. you are far more qualified than i am.
>>108499596This is the most unhinged, unethical and weirdly disgusting conversation I’ve read in here. What insanity is this shit.
>>108499817His post makes it sound like Anon has been jobless for 9 years straight between drug benders and college parties.
>>108499621im canadian
>>108499856>Canadian.It's over Chinkjeet.
If i end up working as a warehouse/store/marketplace admin where the hours are 996 and i only make $1 an hour because i just cant land an It job, not even software testing, is there any point to continue living?
>>108499958For chink land that is shit. You need to make atleast 50k USD a year to make it in that shit hole.
>>108499381I just checked all those GDIT jobs and none of them sponsor a security clearance (aside from public trust lmao) from nothing. >>108499817>>108499836There's a lot of context missing because I didn't link to the original conversation. But also I am on a drug bender. >>108499856I'm American
>>108492570i got laid from oracle hyderabad
>>108499984GDITAll of the helpdesk jobs sponsor a clearance they are just shit at advertising. The link i posted is accurate. Apply any ways you are overqualified.
>>108500000I was going to question you but then I saw your digits. I can't argue with that.
>>108500038I'll see you on the other side>3 months from now when your paperwork is finished. Get off of anything illegal senpai.
>>108499993does oracle even have employees outside of india?
>>108500063>160k employees totalThey barely have any employees compared to most companies.
>>108500063Germany.
>>108500069WE DON'T HAVE JOBS IN GERMANY.
>>108500067working at oracle is spiritually indian anyway
>>108500067That's the size of my globohomo corp and we're fortune 350 or so
What's a nebulous do nothing position I can reasonably move to? Life is hell working on a service desk, and I hate most other departments where I work. Fuck 'em all. Especially the retards in cybersec.
>>108500304Ive come to realize do nothing IT jobs simply dont exist anymore, theyve all become gay and cringe
Has your company jumped into the AI wagon? Ours is trying to make use of it and yet they have no idea where and how can they implement it. Also they bought a ton of AI courses for us, from stuff like "prompt engineering" to AI agent creation and training.
>>108500360fuckkkkkkkkkkkk
>>108500397Yes, it was a complete mess at first but now it actually works fairly well.
>>108500397surprisingly resistantwe've got the microsoft copilot in teamsthat's about itno github copilot yet
>>108500397We have copilot with chatgpt and github copilot with the whole list of subscriptions, and they're starting to do some (non mandatory) informative calls about it but that's it, we use whatever we wantI'm >>108500150 btw
>>108500410What's your company using?
I feel like I'm beefing with my boss for no reason. Most of the time he's always asking my opinion for random shit then he'll go the complete opposite direction and go with "will Y work?" and I'm like if you already had an opinion why the fuck would you ask me? It's even more annoying when I send him a deliverable that he asks for and then changes the whole thing.And it's all fucking semantics, he throws my ChatGPT email into his chatGPT before he's like "yeah this is good to send".
>>108492611Closing in on liberated wagie, in Europe tho so my expenses are a bit lower, 300 for groceries feels like way too much for a single person for a month.32k mortgage on appt valued of 350k too (got lucky bought in the housing dip some years ago)I also know people who this chart would put as upper class but they have such high expenses, I am saving more money monthly then they are.Remember salary is only half the story, the other half is expenses.When you get promotions, don't increase the money you spend, increase the money you save.
>>108492611Lower middle class in my cunt.
>>108500678>Most of the time he's always asking my opinion for random shit then he'll go the complete opposite direction and go with "will Y work?" and I'm like if you already had an opinion why the fuck would you ask me?Just say why it's a bad/good idea, what's the problem? You are there to provide expertise, he is there to make decisions. There is no surface for conflict there.
>>108500753Man just feels pointless to ask me if you're always going to try anything that's not my opinion. Like I remember asking me once if X or Y makes more sense and I did say Y but then he messages me back like 10mins later going I asked copilot and it said X was better and I'm just like ??? ok then? sure?
>>108492611Are these salaries after or before taxes?These values should be against country's median or something. A $50k/yr in USA is completely different than $50k/yr in Russia for example.
>>108500769>Man just feels pointless to ask me if you're always going to try anything that's not my opinion.His decision his responsibility.>Like I remember asking me once if X or Y makes more sense and I did say Y but then he messages me back like 10mins later going I asked copilot and it said X was better and I'm just like ??? ok then? sure?Who cares. As long as you properly and factually described pros and cons of each option it's not your problem anymore.
>spend 2 months interviewing with this company>they make me do a bunch of leetcode questions and shit, but also a long behavioral interview>finally find out about what im going to be doing on the job>it's managing contractors apparently and sitting in meetings>in person
>>108500790meh just come to me rather just outright saying "Hey, I'm planning this can you see if Y makes sense?" rather than just going "Hmm, should we do X or Y?"
>>108496553Anon there are other jobs that coding and working retail you know...
>>108496713>The marine sciences guy got the best outcome and does what he loves outside an officeHoly fucking based
>>108500882in America the only other jobs besides coding and retail are healthcare (keeping fat old boomers alive) and onlyfans (showing your asshole to fat old boomers and indians)
>>108499836I got a tour round one of my company's chip fabs and the inside is 50% stuff that looks like this and 50% shit that looks out of a scifi movie kek. There were so many old systems around.
>>108497496I didn't make the image but, again, you are not fucking reading it.It says that the numbers shown assume you are renting. Those NW are all cash/stocks.
I have completed 400 leetcode problems>136 easy>208 medium>56 hardsoon I will get a job !!!!
>>108492611Upper-middle class is $300k per year buddy.Middle-class is $180k per year.Clearly anon has no idea what things cost...how's middle school going there little guy?
>>108492936lower-middle is $120k per year. why can't people just accept that they are working poor? it's like their ego can't take in the reality of their situation.
>>108493792You are introducing bugs into your applications if you allow the AI to create the tests for the code it generates.
>>108501029kill yourself
>>108501049I make 147k USD and it's over. Shit is way to expensive now.
>Need MINIMUM $3M invested in low-fee ETFs (with a paid off house) before I can dream of retiring to support my lifestyle. >At least 15 years more of grinding required before I can leave the circus of tech. I should've gone to med school. Fuck my chungus life.
lads, thank you for building the products that i shill to retarded enterprise boomers. i will continue to overpromise and blame anything and everything on engineering t. salesfag
>>108494321>>108494468>dumbass VS dumbassknew what? both you and your boss sound like know-nothings: if you're asking an AI then you don't know and won't ever know.
>>108500825>opinionsdumbass VS dumbass
>>108501228>>108501127this general fucking stinks
