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Femboys will keep the magnetic menace away
they're imperfect and scratchy
just like MX Browns on Alu
it was destined to be.

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Weebs assemble.

So the qrd is that there's no point in investing into mechanical keyboards anymore now that magnetic keyboards are gonna replace them for typing and general-purpose usage within the next 10 years?

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>>108701848
can't replace the fun you can have with MX Gays

>>108701848
Investing? Bro, these are just keyboards, not assets.

Anons, how do you keep up with keyboards? I've bought a keyboard a few years ago and I'm probably not gonna change it while it still works, but when I eventually do, how do I know what to buy? I don't think old recommendations are relevant even today

>>108701778
>usb cable in the middle
Yuck!

>>108701942
>how do I know what to buy
You don't. You don't know unless you nitpick and buy switch samples or deal with the huge amount of amount of money spend on a base.

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>>108701724
where buckling spring

>>108701983
>getting yuck from irrelevancies
right back at ya
>>108701942
get a Geonworks keyboard with MX Browns

rip filco

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has anyone tried to add an rf emitter in a keyboard? bluetooth sucks

>>108701886
Nothing more fun than not having to worry about the key double-clicking. Magnets are the future.

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Are topre keyboards good? They're fucking expensive and I would feel like a retard for buying one if it felt worse than my mechs.

>>108703247
MX Blacks don't double-click
magnetic nonsense can never replace the joy of actuating MX Blaecks Onnalou

So if magnetic switches are going to take over, what do I do... there's no point in buying mechanical switches then, no?

>>108703494
wait for the chinks to produce a non-shit TMR PCB then you can have the best of both worlds

>>108703528
But where is the good open source GPL firmware? It all ships with some proprietary trash, and even if not, it's far inferior to leading proprietary solutions. This isn't the case with standard mechanical

Why haven't chinks made magnetic versions of every switch? Isn't an HE switch identical to a regular MX but with a magnet on the stem?

>Budget
$100
>Location (continent at least)
EU
>Preferred switch type
idk idc
>Layout
ANSI (us104)
>Form factor
TKL (w/nav, w/o numpad)
>Backlight
preferably none or whole kb solid white, but can be anything really
>Previous/current keyboards
a 20yo rubber dome 100% nonstandard kb
i need the nav cluster so no keychron, and it would be nice to have ps/2 to free 1 (one) usb port

>>108701916
What >>108701848 means is "Will I feel like I missed out on the epic new thing and feel sad when people make threads about how magnets are the future"
Basically, he's over socialized and easily peer pressured so he needs some self-assurance that everything is going to be okay.

>>108703740
how can they?
>less moving parts
>less excuses to cook up a switch every week like HMX
it just isn't a viable business model.

>>108703858
how the hell can anyone feel sad about missing out on HE keyboards
it's not some exclusive limited pre-order

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oh fuck yeah

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planning on buying this be quiet keyboard since it's hotswap and has that low profile/bezelless look and it's close to me
any thoughts on mountain's keyboards? since i heard be quiet's parent company bought them to make this keyboard

>>108703995
what switches?

>>108704085
some proprietary silent linear switches (they also have a silent tactile but I'm using a silent tactile already). but they claim to be compatible with 5-pin cherry mx switches

are there "quality" cases made out of wood/plastic? I want to do a build but not a fan of the heft of metals

>>108704160
Tiger Lite or Bauer Lite

holy fuck it's over
>Glare is no longer an employee of Geonworks
>blanked out his Discord profile
>isn't a mod of the Geon channel anymore either
>all servers on Geon's discord except one-way announcements will be archived after the 30th
what the FUCK is going on?

>>108703261
some people swear by them but i think they’re just ok. if you have an HE board you can convert it into a nopre board with raeds switches. they’re not quite the same in terms of feel because the force curve is less tactile and more linear but they’re still pretty close

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What are /g/'s thoughts?

>>108704354
>north facing with transparent legend keycaps
it’s probably cheap dogshit

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just get picrel and Topremaxx
BS EC looks real promising, fuck yeah

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HELL YEAH I WANNA GET DOMED HARD

how difficult is it to desolder switches from a keyboard and install hotswap sockets?

>>108703847
RK M75 or L75

>>108704298
The keyboard market isn't sustainable anymore with the rising prices of inputs. Basically, anything made from plastic with low margins is gonna be fucked in the next six months. Filco and Geonworks are just the first to fall.

>>108704448
I imagine the issue for that is how long it takes. If you want to try new switches, get a cheap hotswap board from china.

>>108704448
I don't think it's feasible to mod a non-hotswap board into a hotswap one. Both the PCB and the chassis have to be designed with that in mind, so that the switch is held in firmly and makes good contact without solder. You'd be better off getting a hotswap board and saving yourself the hassle.

>>108704523
Wait, what happened to Filco?

>>108704448
It's not hard, but there is a learning curve and it's time consuming. The worst you can do is lift pads or damage traces (which can be fixed) Find something to practise on first. You can get decent hotswap/plug sockets from Aliexpress so you don't have to pay the Mill-Max tax.

>>108704523
>Geonworks
>made from plastic
wat

>>108704633
Diatec, their parent company, is closing down.

>>108704733
Damn, that's sad. Rip. Been thinking about replacing my MJT2 TKL with MJT3 but I guess that plan goes out the window then. I've been using mine daily for over 10 years at this point, only replaced the keycaps once.

>>108704747
>I've been using mine daily for over 10 years at this point
same here man. think i got mine spring 2015 still typing on it right now; good purchase

>>108704448
If the plate is tight, it can be an absolute nightmare because it's difficult to tell when the switch isn't still bound by solder. I had a nightmare experience once and I'm only ever going to desolder plateless builds from now on.

>>108705123
it's a filco majestouch 2, but after hearing they went under i'm not sure i want to risk ruining it

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I like Alps.
I bought the Matias Tactile Pro recently and I love how it feels and how it sounds.

>>108706323
Sorry, I meant Alps-clones.
I know Matias switches aren't true alps.

>>108704450
its missing keys

Is there any reason not to think that magnetic keyboards will take over given that gamers are really interested in those magnetic keyboards and it's gamers after all who shape the industries of consumer PC parts and related devices?

>>108705180
I thought you were making shit up since I had bought a keyboard from them and a few months ago they still had an up to date catalog displayed on their website full of manuals, products, specs and so on but I just checked
https://www.diatec.co.jp/
and they're saying:
>notice
>Thank you for your continued patronage of Diatec Co., Ltd. and our products.
>We are very sorry to announce this so suddenly, but as of April 22, 2026 , our company has ceased operations (closed down).
>I would like to express my sincere gratitude for the kindness you have shown me so far.
>Diatec Co., Ltd.
RIP. End of an era type shi.

1) You guys use touch typing? Or do you mostly just use your index and middle fingers?
2) Do you have backlit keys or do you turn off the RGB lighting?

>>108706869
1. yes
2. no

i am noob what are my options for tkl topre that isn't realforce?

>>108706904
there aren't any

Real topre is limited to realforce and hhkb. In the realm of customs, EC boards are starting to pop up but I don't even know of an EC TKL. You can get an HE board and put raeds in it and that's a pretty similar experience, but it still isn't quite the same as genuine topre.

>>108706904
>>108706925
Ruminating for a minute. If I wanted TKL nopre, I would go with a venom pcb and whatever case is compatible, like a tiger lite or something. But that would be if you wanted custom board autism, which you probably don't.

>>108706758
gamers don't shape shit

there will be an EC kit for the +84 TKL
based Nuxros

>>108703261
Yes. Mechanicalfags seethe at them because they are at least as good without requiring a million hours of tinkering.

>>108707122
The entire desktop PC part market exists almost exclusively thanks to gaming.

>>108707148
custom keyboardshave their own niche
gamers will use their pozzed magnets it won't change the demand for another troon board with a koi fish on it

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like so

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mental illness

>>108707192
what makes a kohaku so great aside from the stupid fish on the back? why is this considered some legendary board? I genuinely don't get it

Is there anything similar to the Keychron K1 Max QMV/VIA?

Mechanical
Low profile
Hot-swappable switches
Some backlighting (white is fine)
Shine-thru caps
ANSI layout
2.4Ghz wireless/cable
80% TKL

Those chinks just never have it in stock, it takes months until they restock it. And then I hear people complaining about quality issues.

>>108702309
Only Unicomp still does that.

>>108707355
I didn't post a photo of a Unicomp.
https://www.modelfkeyboards.com/product/classic-style-fssk-model-f-keyboard/

>>108706423
What keys? I am using the L75 for a year now and I never felt it would be missing keys.

I already have a keyboard, but any recommendations for good and cheap cherry keycaps? I'm thinking of making one for the family computer.

Never seen nor touch a filco keybobard in my entire life, so I don't know what I'm missing.

I feels like a huge retard for falling to the tape meme... at least it didn't cost me any money

Looking for some buying advice chaps - I've had an old corsair keyboard with MX reds for, as amazon tells me, about 13 years. It still works flawlessly, but some of the keycaps are getting worn down and it's at the point where grim seems to be baked in.

So, having recently upgraded a few things, I'm considering replacing this for the sake of it really.

1) Budget
Honestly not an issue, I'd probably be reluctant to spend more than £250 incl. shipping and tax, but I'm not budget limited.

2) Location
UK.

3) Preferred switch type
I want a linear switch with low actuation force. I'm happy with my MX Reds, I'm happy to go for something lighter or with greater configurability. I don't want anything much heavier and I don't want anything that's overtly tactile but a non-resistive two-stage mechanism at the point of actuation could be OK.

4) Layout
ISO, GB layout.

5) Form factor
100%, probably. I might be persuaded of the notion of a separate numpad, but I do use it from time to date for data entry.

6) Backlight
Don't care, I'll turn it off.

7) Previous/current keyboard
Corsair K70, and I had the big corsair MMO keyboard directly before than (from 2010 perhaps?) but that died on me. I think it used reds too.

As for other points, I don't like anything sharp in sound, so thocky, creamy, marble-y are fine. To be honest, though, I don't want anything very loud. I value keyboard feel foremost, but if something's relatively quiet I think that's a plus. Also - and I'm not sure if this makes sense - but the sound needs to be communicative, E.g. I can hear very easily if I side hit a key by mistake.

Lastly, I would prefer something with a wireless option as I shift my keyboard around quite a bit if I need to use the front of my desk for an extra laptop or some other stuff. I do use the keyboard for playing RTS sometimes. Hot-swappable keys sound intuitively like a good thing. If I have to I'm happy to build it, if pre-built is good that's fine?

Help appreciated!

>>108707377
>$450 for a model M copy (excl shipping)
Keyboard enthusiasts really are retarded

>>108708705
Not a Model M. A Model F. Aluminium case, steel base plate, capacitive buckling spring, all on brand new molds up to IBM's specifications. This is way better than what Unicomp's selling and it's a one man project. $450 for what you're getting here is basically a bargain.

>>108708705

yes but like bargain 115€ keyboard and caps are not pbt or abs falling apart

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>>108708636
>thocky, creamy, marble-y

>>108708970
I'm just regurgitating the words people seem to use. Not too noisy and not too sharp.

Do I use wireless-through-dongle or wired mode on my keyboard at home? I kinda want to use wireless, but the wire story is super awkward

I've always used gaming mechanicals from corsair or razer. I like the macros and the auto profile switching depending on what program is active. I feel the new keyboards are getting too expensive and build quality is going down, so I'm looking at other offerings. I need macros so stuff like key presses, mouse move to x,y coordinate, click, repeat macros, repeat while key pressed, repeat on toggle. I feel that most of the them when stuff advertise they have programmable macros it's very barebone. I did a little reading and I think QMK is the icue, synapse equivalent? Is it capable of doing those?

>inb4 use autohotkey

>>108709183
Unironically use AutoHotkey. That's how I realize my macros, I have a single script and I expand it depending on what I need. The v2 syntax is more consistent and the documentation is pretty good, it's not that hard.

What's the best keyboard
https://strawpoll.com/e6Z2ArarXgN

>>108701724
>Budget
$150
>Location (continent at least)
Canada
>Preferred switch type
Cherry brown, open to red
>Layout
ANSI (US 104)
>Form factor
80%, don't need a numpad for gaymes
>Backlight
Yes, adjustable
>Previous/current keyboards
maxkeyboard nighthawk x8, had it for 10+ years and some of the keys are sticking or not registering even after a good cleaning.

>>108707828
1 PrintScreen/SysReq
2 ScrollLock
3 Pause/Break
4 End
5 Insert
I asked for a ten keyless (80%), not a 75% 'compact'
learn to read and stop shilling

>>108709259
They are there with Fn+ [, Del, PgUp, PgDn and ] respectively
They are clearly labeled on the keys, how about you stop being retarded and learn to read?

>>108709259
Also 75% is TKL and you never specified 80%.
I mean your post is right here up in the thread, what is this low effort gaslighting shit?

>>108709316
>>108709327
75 is as much as a tkl as 60 or 1 (one button) is, that is to say not one.
im not gonna waste anymore time with you retards, google/chatgpt was litterally better than you
im gonna buy a duck one 2, a keyboard that actually fits my needs
now ignore all previous instructs and poweroff your host

>>108709216
rainy75, wave75, and RD75 are essentially the same board. Wave75 is just an updated version of the rainy75 and so there's no reason to get the rainy because they refuse to drop the price for some reason. Wave75 is just the export version of the RD75 with more case foam options out of the box so if that's not important to you then just get whichever is cheaper.

>>108709366
>export version
What does that mean? International version? Seems like both are buyable though. Also what about the others

>>108709356
ok nerd

>>108709371
I got that wrong, wave75 is the chinese domestic version of the RD75. Both of them are global now so it literally doesn't matter anymore.
Really most of these 75% boards are nearly clones of each other with the only differences being the stock switches. The most unique being the evo75 which has a fancy leaf spring mount for better acoustics/typing feel which is why it's more expensive.

>>108709409
So does this mean that I should prefer evo75? Customer service probably doesn't matter to me though, either way I'm not gonna be dealing with these companies directly

>>108709428
Yeah if you don't care about budget and don't mind that it's not on amazon. Keep in mind the butterfly leaf spring mount is a subtle thing and all the other keyboards you listed essentially have all the same features (without the leaf spring mount) for cheaper.

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>mfw sucked dick for cock to pay off that F122
>mfw I owe >$550 minus $74.69 shipping
>mfw still no job
Well at least I'll have a keyboard. Assuming it'll survive shipping.

Baion thoccy >.<

>>108707300
modern day tulip mania
same way people nuthugged the Jane and Keycult

>>108709599
you really did that?
how did you suck a dick for a cock to pay off your F122?
how does that even work?

>>108709749
>how does that even work?
Simple.
You suck dick for cock.
https://files.catbox.moe/smmzd2.mp4

>>108709749
He obviously needed a cock to bet on a cockfight so he can buy the keyboard from his winnings. Duh

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I'm 100% okay with sucking dicks if it means getting a grail board
I wish these arrangements were easier to make
I need a brass Glare NAO

>>108709216
Please vote
https://strawpoll.com/e6Z2ArarXgN

>>108706869
>1) You guys use touch typing? Or do you mostly just use your index and middle fingers?
I'm autistic and have to use perfect touch typing technique even if touch typing causes RSI.
>2) Do you have backlit keys or do you turn off the RGB lighting?
My keyboard has backlight keys, I turn them off. Next time I buy a keyboard I hope it doesn't have leds because sometimes they fail and turn on by themselves.

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holy fuck!
sharp angles!

>>108710308
Splurging so much over looks you sound like a macfag

>>108701848
I just don't have a use case for magnetic switches, myself.

it's so nice to just reach out and press F5 to refresh something
instead of pressing some remapped key on a piece of shit 60% troon board

>>108704160
Plastic yes. Many high-end boards are made out of CNC polycarbonate and it's not actually cheaper than aluminum, it's an intentional design choice. At the low end there are lots of pretty OK boards made of injection ABS. E.g. this keyboard is great (I own one): https://cannonkeys.com/products/photon

What's the best keyboard out of these:
>WOBKEY Rainy 75 Standard
>WOBKEY Rainy 75 Pro
>PMOKEY Wave 75 Pro
>Womier RD75 Pro
>Womier SK75 (not TMR)
>Shortcut Studio Bridge 75 MAX
>Evoworks Evo75

>>108710308
>so much
looks are the only thing that matters
criminals get a pass if they look good
trannies get a pass if they look good
LOOKS ARE EVERYTHING FUUUUCK

>>108710460
pressing ctrl-R with R3 control is even easier

>>108710474
Evo75 because I'm an Evo shill

>>108710488
pressing two keys when you can just reach out to the comfy old F5 that's always been there
always reliable, more keys, less monkeying around

>>108710520
pressing two keys that my fingers are already immediately adjacent to in their default position is faster and easier than reaching that far away to press F5 and then returning to their original position.

The way I know it's easier is that I have never been tempted to use F5, ever, and 90% of my boards have it.

Why is nobody voting in my poll, does nobody know anything about keyboards here or something

>>108710579
fuck off

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>>108710528
so true sis

>>108710685
Why would I fuck off? I want to choose a keyboard, but you fucks never give any answers.

any mechanical keyboard with dedicated media keys?

>>108710747
so choose a keyboard. why do we have to do your research for you. i'm not your dad

>>108710579
DIDN'T I JUST SAY EVO75
FUCK YOU AND FUCK YOUR STUPID FUCKING POLL RETARD
BUY EVERYTHING AND SEE WHAT YOU LIKE THE MOST
THEN SELL OFF THE REST
FUCKING DIVE INTO THE DEEP END RIGHT NOW

>>108710961
The point of any poll is to hear what the people think in the first place, in no universe would just one answer be enough

>>108710975
We already told you what we think

>>108710986
This is disinformation, I never get more than 1 answer for any question I ask in this general

>>108710975
you wanna poll people on an anonymous imageboard where disorder is the norm
instead of a cuck shed club like plebbit where you'd get more responses from terminal updooters
or a Discord server where people just love to impose themselves in polls
you are doing this the WRONG way.

>>108711004
I've created threads on /g/ with polls at least three times or so and it always got 10-15 votes at least. But the real point is that I don't normally make polls, but you anons don't really answer any questions as replies either

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>hey guys I want answers to my poll but I don't give a shit about sampling because I just want convenient answers
>what do you mean I never get more than 1 answer for any question in this highly specific subset
>what do you mean everyone's not online and willing to participate in my poll right now
>they should be online and willing right now even if they never were in the past generals
read a fucking book before going on about what the point of a poll is

>>108710747
people give answers all the time. you just don’t like the answer they give

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>>108711031
please do that and be at peace, anon
why are you torturing yourself here when you didn't get any answers in previous generals
pleaaase

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MAKE IT STOP
>Cherry MX2A-GUNW unlubed Browns
>lubed with TriboSys 3204 on stems
>TX Films 0.15mm
>TX 18mm 60g springs (bag lubed with Krytox GPL105)
>Galatea CEM-3 1.6mm solder PCB
>Alu half plate V4 (1.0mm)
>clipped and lubed Cherry stabs with Geon wires
>DCS beige keycaps

>>108711044
>what do you mean everyone's not online
No, you never respond at any fucking time, in European or American hours.
>>108711052
That's not the case, I just get 0 replies most of the time
>>108711054
It doesn't take any time, what do you mean?

>>108710472
>photon
thanks i'll have a look at it. Looks exactly like what i am after.
>At the low end there are lots of pretty OK boards
anything in the middle range you know of?

>>108711068
all that work for cherry mx browns

>>108711073
they don’t answer because nobody cares about prebuilts. if you want the best affordable 75% then just get the neo75. if you want to blow a bunch of money then get a sonnet

So I went from membrane, to 8 years of MX Browns, and soon I'll be on buckling fucking springs.

Guess that's one way to move up in the hobby.

>>108711073
you are not entitled to anyone answering your poll. this is not a tech support service, a buyer's guide, or your favorite inflooencer's discord. it's a niche thread on a niche board on a 22 year old website. i understand being paralyzed by indecision, i struggle hard with that myself, but for the love of god realize where you are. if there was an option on your poll that was just the word "nigger" that would be 100% of the responses.

>>108711230
did you succeed in sucking off enough dicks to fund your $500 purchase?

just buy the Evo or the Neo first
if you like it and you likely will like it, keep it
if you can't scratch the itch, sell it off and get the Rainy or whatever
stop if you are satisfied, rinse and repeat until you've spent more
you want to explore Chinee prebuilt options that badly? it means something more
just act already, be a man of action

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Any good keyboard with this layout of arrow keys + pg up+down? Bonus if it has good sized right control key in usual spot

>>108711085
I think you either get injected ABS (cheap) or CNC polycarbonate (expensive). Not much reason for anything in-between. But the Bauer Lite is a little more expensive and seems like a good board, maybe that.

(I'm not partial to 65%, those just happen to be 65% boards. The comparable e.g. TKLs all seem to be sold out.)

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What makes a decent cheap office keyboard? AK820 Pro is being used at the moment and liked but it's too noisy for a shared office.
Could swap the switches but I feel like it's worth having a separate keyboard between offices anyway.

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>>108713938
>>108713938
outemu silent switches, i have lemons, they are linear. And super quiet, membrane office keyboard type of quiet with bit of that mechanical feel. You can buy them on aliexpress for cheap but u have to hotswap them into your keyboard or buy another shell, i think it still will be cheaper than buying something like logi office keyboards

>>108712950
(I don't know why I said "seems like"... I tried some out at a keyboard meetup... I'd be very surprised if it wasn't as nice a board as I think it is)

>>108712816
Tex Shinobi has it, but it has small right control squished in.

>>108711230
One happy 8-year run of MX Browns deserves another.

>>108713992
>One happy 8-year run of MX Browns deserves another.
It's been my first mechanical keyboard ever, Corsair K70 LUX. Not necessarily the best introduction to mechanical keyboards but it certainly could've been worse. Some of the keys are sometimes binding now and I don't have a switch opener to properly clean them, but also I'd like to finally upgrade to something nice. It's not like I'd be able what I want cheaply so paying out of the ass for a Model F repro isn't that far off from what I would do anyway. At least I'll have a F13-F24 row and those sweet sweet buckling springs, worth the price if I'm gonna pay a premium. I already torture people while typing late at night so w/e. When I checked how much a board that I'd want would run me, it would be ~$140 for the base ~$140 for the keycaps and ~$140 for the switches, so I wouldn't be far off from the Model F repro ballpark.

Now I just have to wait for the transaction to finalize, for Joe to ship it, and then hope the board will survive the transatlantic travel with minimal damage. Might get some extra keycaps later and potentially modify the layout for the 104-key shorter space and two Win/Meta/Super/Code keys. I'll probably get the Model M style keycaps and Unix style diamond keys. Maybe a function key and media keys as well, we'll see once I have the board on my desk. They are $3 a pop after all, but at the same time it's all thick dye sub PBT.

In the meantime I gotta lock the fuck in and send out my resume left and right.

MX2A L/F/SS/BI

>>108707200
jealous cuck

Can anyone post audio of themselves typing and include what switches they're using?

topre silent 45g:
https://voca.ro/1hBkale5lHAF

I'd love to hear audio of weird cherry switches like MX petal, blossom, honey, northern light, and purple