>>108716070
too late linux won

you don't get it, it's not about windows being good or bad
they can develop a feature that turns copilot into a physical robot that can suck my dick and cook me dinner and I still wouldn't touch software developed by "people" who eat human and cow shit

>>108716070
Getting rid of reactui is a good start but it'll only be usable when it ships with 0 copilot

>>108716070
I have come to terms with the current reality and settled on;
>Old Normal Rig - dies on Windows 8
>New Normal Rigs - run Linux exclusively
But I'm glad for slop eating zoomies who will at least be getting something a little more polished

>>108716070
Don't get your hopes up, all of this is about fixing Windows 11 so it won't be the shift we need for Windows to be a great OS again.

too little too late waaaaaay too fucking late

>>108716070
Amazing. I'll check it out in 2032 when windows 10 support ends.

>>108716070
>windows developers are using linux as a benchmark
>this is somehow bad for linux
huh?

Notice all the "baby duck" threads have disappeared since W11 adoption hit a wall? They were sure they were going to be able to shame everyone into converting to W11 but what actually happened was one last corporate refresh cycle before memory prices went insane, halting new hardware purchases. Now Microsoft is scrambling for ways to get the stubborn never-W11ers to change, which requires actually addressing the performance shortcomings because hardware refresh can't cover up for shitty code anymore.

OP thinks his self-harm is a massive pwn against everyone else

>Microsoft’s goal is to make Windows 11 so reliable that a restart is only required once a month.
Bruh

>>108716070
>reducing bloatware
that's rich from a company who's idea of "removing copilot from applications" meant removing the icon and moving the ai options under another submenu

This has been out for a while and it's not what you imagine.
You can see it on some xbox handheld but it's basically Windows 11 but you can reboot it into a minimal single app mode to run a gaming store such as the xbox one or steam big picture mode. There is no desktop or desktop apps in this mode and would be difficult to use it as such

>>108716070
the only way to improve windows performance is to ban all the dogshit kernel modules they allow, especially the filesystem filter garbage, "file sysc" garbage, other av and "anticheat" shit. that's it. they won't though. Windows is fundamentally fucked, performance wise honestly, but if you're on a reasonably clean, no EDR faggotry, no defender, Windows Server, it's fine.

>>108716173
Peanuts when compared to UI made in react.

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>>108716070
Too late, I switched to Linux already. Everything works better, faster, private.

>>108716190
literal non-issue, outside of shitty UX, like Win11's shitty fido/passkeys .NET slop dialog. We're talking about app/gaymen performance here, not the split second time it takes to open the new right click context menu.

>>108716172
The Xbox Game Mode is already in the preview update of Windows. This is more about improvements coming to 26H2 which is due later this year.

>>108716070
>Microsoft is working on a Windows 11 update codenamed Windows K2
K2 is an internal project/team name, not Windows update meme. I know /g/ is so retarded you're just reposting clickbait headlines that boost your ego but come the fuck on, we're at the Chinese whispers stage of sensational journalism already?

>>108716190
>i-it's peanuts!
and then you find out shitty kernel drivers not made by M$ end up causing massive latency because of how their kernel works, and you have massively delayed interrupts. they have run queues similar to how Linux has those fake "realtime" run-til-yield priorities. They really need to claw back control of their kernel, like Linux does with its "lol kernel abi doesn't exist bitch" or Applel just outright banning access outside of carved out boutique APIs.

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>>108716092
>ships with 0 copilot
won't happen
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-starts-rolling-out-gaming-copilot-on-windows-11-pcs/

>>108716070
>wasting time and money fixing the problems you purposefully created and that nobody asked for
how the fuck do you even get in this situation in the first place

>>108716070
good for them, hopefully they get the ship turned around. ai is cool but it doesn't need notepad integration.

>>108716665
what are you talking about? Win11 is already a major uplift from Win10 for gaymers, especially for shit like borderless windowed.
what are you deranged retards even talking about half the time? do you even know how anything works?

>>108716627
so... like ... has anyone used that? its been 6 months since the date in that pic - even more.
Has there ever been someone who used the gaming Copilot?

surprised microsoft would name an update after a pakistani mountain

>>108716734
>he doesn't use gaming copilot to aimbot in his favorite zoomer hero shooter slop
n00b

>>108716070
I'm never going back. FOSS is too comfy.

>>108716748
memes aside - this has had 0 adoption.

>>108716716
>saaaaar

>>108716070
I'm never going back to proprietary OS garbage ever again.

This is great, but it's a small step compared to the damage done.
I jumped to Arch LInux last year from Windows 10 on my laptop.
I'm still on Windows 10 on my gaming desktop PC.
I'll consider W11 when Copilot and "screenshots" your desktop becomes completely optional.

>>108716070
Their workers do not have the skill necessary to do this.

>>108716833
>I'll consider W11 when Copilot and "screenshots" your desktop becomes completely optional.
It already is, you can just uninstall copilot.

>>108716986
Removing an icon is not the same thing as removing code.

>>108716070
>Microsoft is working
They can work a whole century they won't be able to fix the broken mess that windows is.

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>>108716070
>saaars please come back it's good now i promised saaars!!!
>applications can still defecate in %appdata%
>updates can still un-debloat your GPO
>all the AI and webapps still fuck up DPC for audio/gaming
lol, what's the fucking point? It's sad that I have to run 10 with a eol build from 2023 for my gayming desktop, since apparently security updates are vibe-coded garbage from jeets now.

>>108716070
too little too late
the only "reason" for using windows for gaming is the handful of live service slop with heavy handed anti-cheat. which you should be avoiding anyway
it really is amazing how valve pulled it off. my steam deck only gives me issues when I need to do non-gaming stuff

>>108716086
>software developed by "people" who eat human
the pedo masons?

Hesitant to even believe theyll put anything out at all.

>>108717029
No I mean like actually uninstalling it. You have to use PowerShell or third party applications like ShutUp10++ to actually do this though as there's no built-in option in the settings.

>>108716070
The jury is still out on this one. MS has to prove that it really can lower memory consumption, in a world where RAM is more expensive.
And eliminate stutter and GPU lag across the board. But half of that will be down to good drivers as well.
And less forced updates.

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>>108716070
>take features out of your product
>sell it to people who already bought the full version

Might go back to windows if this happens. Delete the telemetry of course and have tails on a stick

>>108716070
>reducing bloatware
About damn time

>>108716070

Zero AI?
Zero web UI?
Zero telemetry?

>>108716070
As much as I'd love to make a snarky redditor comment here like everyone else, I think that's a good thing. We have real competition in the gaming OS space and look at what it does.

>>108716716
>do you even know how anything works?
Would you like to make a list of improvements and then be willing to address a counter list of all things that have gotten worse?

>>108716070
>It will also lower idle memory use
lol. lmao. no it won't.

>>108716627
>we've automated the playing of the games so you no longer have to bother playing them.

for real this time

>>108716070
SAR
SAAAAAR
DO NOT REDEEM WINDOWS PA(KK)ISTANI
DO NOT

>>108716070
>Windows K2
windows benchod saar edition, redeemable.

>>108716070
>AI slop pic copied from xitter, complete with watermark
>greentext hoax exactly like the last one a few months ago
>no link
fake and gay

>>108716086
this
effectively they brought in the entirety of a country that only got working toilets in the last century into a company that was comprised of mostly East Asian and American devs, and it collapsed just like every other time their crappy country was gifted civilization.

Now, the same company that broke their flagship product promises to fix the flagship product that wasn't broken because they hired exclusively from the poopdoot and pooprape castes for the last 10 years. This will just be "Windows: still really shitty" edition.

>>108716627
Oh right and this is the other thing.
The cargo cult around AI that was caused by a massive speculation bubble isn't going to go away. They're still hoping all of the investors flock back if they just put AI in that one killer app nobody can live without, but unfortunately they have copilot which is the worst out of all of the AIs. I would rather run Minimax than run Copilot.

>>108716716
saar have you tried the poopsuck feature? very handy! borderless windows (which was a thing all the way back on windows 7, and definitely exists just fine on 10) lets me sort my scat pics while browsing CowHub!

>>108716070
That's great I'm still switching to Linux when LTSC10 becomes unusable day to day.

>>108716070
Lol. Now windows is afraid.

>>108716070
kk

wow they're actually panicking
the fuck

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>>108708631

Holy crap do you think they actually responded to my thread

>>108716086
this

>>108716141
this guy gets it

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>>108716070
too little, too late.

They really have to make it borderline FOSS or something at this point.

I already moved over to mint and have windows 10 dual boot (or VM) for FL Studio + Photoshop. Once that shit is getting easier to run natively on linux (reliably with all plugins) I have zero needs for any microslop OS in my life.

>>108719397
they should just turn windows into a linux desktop environment, dump out all their OS shit and make it open source so people can rewire all into linux
there is no salvaging their reputation at this point

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I think it is really fucking funny how many of you fags who can’t figure out how to use poweshell to rice windows, are flocking to Linux. If you can’t use the terminal on one OS, why the fucking are going to become dependent on some new jeetslop that you also can’t use the terminal on?

Y’all fuckers don’t need a new OS. You need to learn how things work under the hood!

>>108719493
at least make your bait belieable

>>108719493
Not a single person in this thread even mentioned ricing

>>108719502
Removing the bloat in windows is “ricing”
The reason Microsoft does that shit is because everyone has been stealing windows for decades and the stupid people can’t figure out how to remove it because they can’t into CLI

>>108716070
They are using an OS that uses a translation layer to run Windows games as a benchmark for their own OS that runs these games natively, but somehow worse?

>>108719592
It's fucking hilarious isn't it? Indians are going to crash the boomer golden age.

They need to come up with their own Steam Input standard running on .NET and also port it to Linux. People would be bitching, but I think its a move they should do. Steam Input is a godlike remapper solution. Its a little laggy and buggy sometimes, but nothing really comes close to the amount of options you have.

>>108716070
>benchmark is an OS that uses a reverse engineered compatibility layer to run w*ndows programs
How did jeetsoft fuck up so badly?

>>108719448
>there is no salvaging their reputation at this point
In the real world, Microsoft just exceeded their Q1 revenue expectations, and is up 18% from last year.

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>>108719592
absolute state of directx.

also they still dont have advanced shader delivery rolled out on windows. something that already exists on steam through linux.

>>108719493
W*ndows is for tinkertrannies now, LINVX just werks

>>108716070

Keep going to Linux I say. I’m not going there and it’s gonna make my Windows better.

>>108716746
You poo in no loo
I poo on K2
We are not the same

they won't get rid of copilot or recall, they will make it run minimally.

>>108719592
The translation layer isn't too far off to how Windows basically works "natively" to be fair.

>>108720397
It's kind of funny when you think about it. You can mostly hand a tardo a Fedora (and its 6 gorillian gaymer forks), or even Ubuntu, installer and they can just use their computer with less bullshit.

>>108717990
Windows 11 has superior borderless window. Ironically, Windows 11 basically caught up to GNOME, circa 2018 with basic compositor features like, unredirection and remembering where windows were on monitors that were turned off. Win10 tardos are delulu if they think their tranny version is somehow magically better when it objectively was not.

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>>108716070
>They are using SteamOS as a benchmark for performance.
bizarro world

microsoft has already entered enshittification
watch them remove some shit smears only to add them back elsewhere
I'd say too little too late but even if they did alot I'd stay the fuck away, only a matter of time before they start making things bad as a business model agaib

>>108717961
>Working toilets in the last century
For some reason this is something people overlook about south east Asia, south asia, China and the like.
It took those things until at the earliest 1997 before they started to have working toilets.
Go to Vietnam or laos or the majority of China in the last 10 years and see a weird reality of insectoid hominids wandering around waiting for someone to tell them how to do basic things.

>>108716070
too fucking little too fucking late
eat shit jeetdows
eat shit slopa nutella
eat shit bill gaytes

>>108716086
Anon you are not 14 anymore (I hope), it's time to grow out of the internet edgelord mindset

>>108721626
a) Grow up
b) You lost

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>>108721675
You won, tranny

>>108717080
And then Microsoft changes something and it's back on your system again until the devs that make those hacks adjust, you find out about it, and then you use the hack to remove the spy stuff again. It's amazing that people like you think you're not going to get fucked but I guess some people have to get kicked in the balls several hundred times before they learn to not use the Kick-o-matic Ball Kicker machine.

>>108716070
>Within the next year or two, it believes that Windows will be able to truly compete head-to-head with steamOS in gaming performance on identical hardware
TWO MORE YEARS

>>108720397
For a long time it is really this

>>108716070
meh, words are cheap. if they can actually make a decent OS and keep it decent for a minimum of five years then maybe i'd care.

>>108716734
>https://www.theregister.com/2026/02/02/microsoft_ai_spend_copilot/
that's copilot in general, not gaming
but I imagine it's quite a bit worse since most gamers are under 40 and not retarded boomers asking the AI such riveting things like what to get for dinner

Does this not look embarrassing to some people?
Such small market share, a bunch of "freetards", are making them panic, beg, cry, go back on their word.
I remember when it was impossible to change the position of the taskbar. Turns out it's not? They hit the panic button early in my opinion. They look like shit right now.

>>108716070
frankly I still think that Win10 LTSC will be the last Windows OS I will use for a very long time
but if Win11 LTSC 2027 adds these changes and continues to keep Copilot out I might reconsider despite ReactUI

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>>108716070
If it's actually good I will still be using Windows actively in the future but for the meantime I am working to make Fedora Kinoite a viable option for me as I don't see Microsoft completely going in the right direction for example winUI has too much padding (something I think they won't fix).
But yeah unlike the Linux fanboys say, you are not as free on Linux as they might claim, you are depended on vendors regardless of the OS. And if they decide to do things you don't like, let's say bombard you with donation requests (because you are opening a window to be abused) you are just as screwed as the Windows guys.

I already switched to a Macbook Pro for my work machine and put Linux Mint on my gaming desktop. Not going back to jeetdows.

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>>108716070
but with shutupwin10 you alreayd get to 3.7GB idle.... lol like whats the point? they guna reduce it to 1GB?

>>108716070
2 more weeks

>>108716070
>microsoft admitting linux is better for gaming
oh no no no
what does windows have that both linux and macos don't?
what does windows do that neither linux nor macos do better?
it's the fumble of the century

>>108716070
Not good enough. I'm sticking with Linux.

>>108723424
>>microsoft admitting Linux is better for gaming
Terrible framing, what they are saying that steamOS has optimizations that Windows also needs. If Windows matches Linux then Linux becomes obsolete because Windows can play games that require anti-cheat and a trusted computing platform.

>>108723578
and what happens when microsoft kicks anticheats out of the kernel, like they are doing for antivirus?
>if windows matches linux, then linux becomes obsolete
terrible framing as linux had a niche before it became viable for gaming, which only really happened over the last few years

>>108723607
>and what happens when microsoft kicks anticheats out of the kernel, like they are doing for antivirus?
They'll just have to figure out a different way.
Anticheats are only as invasive as they are because of DMA cards.
Microsoft is likely working on device memory isolation.

>>108723607
>and what happens when microsoft kicks anticheats out of the kernel
Not happening not in the foreseeable future.
It takes A serious fuck up by an anti-cheat company for Microsoft to put them in the same kernel exclave.
>terrible framing as linux had a niche before it became viable for gaming, which only really happened over the last few years
Sure for web servers but to most normal people If Windows is as fast and runs more relevant games (at least in this decade) do you really think they would still consider switching?

>>108723424
Low quality kernel API. That's basically it. In Linux you play the dkms/akmod game and pray your out of tree garbage works, on fagOS you suck off Tim Apple til he gives you something for you faggy (in)security product. Windows self-inflicted this wound on itself with its retarded memorandum of understanding to appease the faux security industry.

>>108716070
>SteamOS is now the benchmark
Incredibly grim day for Microsoft.

>>108717050
>>applications can still defecate in %appdata%
.application_name in your home folder is worse

>>108723641
When Linux was up and coming, IIS was still superior to anything Linux had, especially Apache httpd. This cope is honestly insane. Linux is just as much a "server os" and a "workstation os" as Windows, especially in 2026.

>>108720781
>>108720397
This, my wife only needs a web browser and file manager, so her laptop has CachyOS. My desktop has 10 LTSC.

>>108723633
>Anticheats are only as invasive as they are because of DMA cards.
the solution is obviously server-side analysis and withholding information from clients about things that are not visible
it should be possible to determine if a player is behaving as if they have information they shouldn't over a long enough time

>>108723641
>Sure for web servers
desktop linux has been non-negligible for a long time now
i cba to look up the numbers, but i think the recent gaming improvements only doubled it
>do you really think they would still consider switching?
people started switching as soon as it became viable, let alone when it became better
strictly better performance than windows is nice but not mandatory

>>108716070
>They are using SteamOS as a benchmark for performance
Lmao tuxbros we won

>>108723672
gigabased. Glad it works for you. I try telling my mom she should look into it, especially since her retarded husband botnetted himself already, but she barely uses it anyway.

>>108723663
>When Linux was up and coming, IIS was still superior to anything Linux had, especially Apache httpd. This cope is honestly insane. Linux is just as much a "server os" and a "workstation os" as Windows, especially in 2026.
Disagree Linux is heavily command line driven because it's by design the command line takes huge amount of present in the boot process and lot's of """"graphical""" application. I don't consider a command line operating system a real desktop OS.

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>>108723685
mind-boggling, isn't it?

>>108723683
They'll need more advanced server sided statistics and mods anyway. Denuvo hacks are proof that a sufficiently sophisticated hypervisor can trick any client running software into believing facts that aren't true. I wouldn't even be surprised if professional cheats for streamer cucks aren't already using hypervisors to lie to Windows+Kernel anticheats+games.

>>108723424
>what does windows have that both linux and macos don't?
>what does windows do that neither linux nor macos do better?
Update firmware for many printers, game controllers, car GPS, Intel management engine, Razer peripherals, ...
Bulk Rename Utility looks like ass on KDE + Wayland + Wine
So does Reolink client
Basically a lot of proprietary non gaming software doesnt work properly or at all in Wine. Especially anything that is supposed to directly communicate with USB devices

>>108723714
>razer
t. what is openrazer?
>car gps
lulwut
>bulk rename utility
if you're that autistic, then use the command line

>>108723696
What the fuck does that even mean? Windows Server literally comes in two flavors: with or without GUI. M$ expects you to use WinRM and similar protocols to control your OS. Your GUI is no more, or less, a shell than anything a modern GNOME desktop is. Legitimately I don't understand what you retards are smoking anymore.

>>108723737
the person you replied to is obviously indian. in future, please act accordingly.

>>108723424
>what does windows have that both linux and macos don't?
>what does windows do that neither linux nor macos do better?
A more sensible folder hierarchy.
A good userland Api that comes with proper backward compatibility and an app ecosystem. Docker is kind of a lame solution.

>>108723748
>A more sensible folder hierarchy.
>Creates a CVE because users who don't have IIS installed can make a C:\inetpub controlled by a hacker and make Windows update run arbitrary code as SYSTEM
You're really clueless if you think Windows has a sane filesystem convention.

>>108716070
>and reducing bloatware
a man can dream

>>108723641
>do you really think they would still consider switching?
NTA but there are a growing section of people who claim they want to get away from windows for any number of reasons.
I don't personally see it happening because most of these people are technically illiterate anyway and one big problem is that SteamOS isn't going to be seemless with everything outside the steam ecosystem so even if they get past the hurdle of replacing their presintalled win11 home it won't be comfortable even if they get slightly more fps.

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>>108723737
*sigh*
Okay cannot find an image online to show, but Windows server's "command line interface" is in a black window with a black background which allows you to still open graphical application it's just that there is no compositing that means that if that application needs it, it will likely not work properly. It's kind of the opposite of Linux it's a graphical environment pretending to be a command line environment.

>>108723767
>>Creates a CVE because users who don't have IIS installed can make a C:\inetpub controlled by a hacker and make Windows update run arbitrary code as SYSTEM
Has nothing to do with the hierarchy, that's a red herring.

>>108723806
Yes it does. Default C:\ grants users the ability to make any folder they want with a really bad default ACL. Most retards don't understand Windows and this leads to all sorts of problems.

>>108716141
Pretty smart take. Also Linux performs incredibly well even on low memory PCs (especially if you run a light DE). I've seen more and more people jumping ship just to see how much performance they can gain.

>>108723788
this is what they took from us

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>>108723780
>NTA but there are a growing section of people who claim they want to get away from windows for any number of reasons.
How much of that is just social media algorithms making something look bigger than it is, if we really saw a change we would have seen it at the global stat counter but we don't really see it.
I hid the chrome os line because it makes it easier to the linux line.

>>108716070
are there insider builds yet?

>>108723813
>Yes it does. Default C:\ grants users the ability to make any folder they want with a really bad default ACL. Most retards don't understand Windows and this leads to all sorts of problems.
You are making a good point about ACL but that's not what I am talking about another red herring, because you are responding to my file hierarchy claim.

>>108720381
>advanced shader delivery
You mean downloading precompiled shaders from Steam? You mean that things that Steam on Windows does occasionally whenever there's an update?

>>108723870
The download shaders feature has never worked on Windows. It's only for Linux. Dota 2 for instance you need to manually compile shaders on Windows. On Linux it downloads them.

>>108723844
then what are you talking about dipshit?
you can easily map Linux-isms to Windows and vise-versa, because they're very similar.

XDG_CONFIG_HOME ? %AppData%
XDG_DATA_HOME ? %AppData%
XDG_STATE_HOME | CACHE_HOME ? %LocalAppData% or %AppData%\..\LocalLow
hell, you got shit like %AllUserProfile% | %ProgramData% for /usr/lib or /etc if you will.

%UserProfile% is literally just $HOME

like, C:\Users\(You) is literally just /home/(You) as well. legitimately what are you talking about you stupid nigger? the defaults in Windows are overall worse and most apps do the stupidest shit imaginable, that's a pox on Windows, not Linux. Even dumping everything into /opt/shit-here is better than some of the stupid shit windows users do.

>>108723841
Some people are serious enough to actually make it to the point where they will try to install SteamOS or the favor of the month gayming distro. These are the same people that would have thought their entire PC is broken when Windows dies before they started looking into installing a different OS.
But to your point it's likely not a phenomenon that's going to tip the needle any significant way but it's interesting enough I think to get attention from MS

>>108723894
oh, I forgot to mention too. Enjoy your FUCKHUGE %PATH% because you fucking wintards don't have an exact replica of /bin, so you have stuff like scoop that create literal shim executables to replicate the feel.

fuck you.

>>108716173
Sounds like Gamescope or Cage but more convulted, tho I could be missing context

>>108723841
i think linux has oneshotted a very specific demographic
nobody outside of tech over 30 is going to touch linux
if windows annoys them enough, then they will buy a mac, and they probably should
now, if you're late teens / early twenties, male, and like computers, then you've probably already tried linux
if you built a computer recently, then you probably put linux on it for a few days
and these users will be more impressed than the previous batch that tried linux 5-10 years ago

>>108723926
ya, probably from the makers of insane cope like "dev drive" where they just outright bypass security with a nested filesystem. kek. imagine it being so bad, you need a cope to bypass NTFS file filtering shitcurity shit.
At work, I deleted a massive 10GiB folder of build artifacts and it took 2 hours for the directory to be removable since it claimed "directory not empty."
I hate AV shitware, EDR shitware, fake security. I'm so fucking pissed off at this fake and gay world.

>>108716070
>They are using SteamOS as a benchmark for performance.
Holy shit they're going to make W11 even slower than already is

>>108723894
I am talking about the C:\ drive mostly.
I prefer the Windows model of Program files, Program files (x86), Program Data, Windows & users over the quite shitty unix adopted model of root/ bin/ etc/ opt/ lib/ and more. Yes Home and User folder are a bit similar and I do like XDG what I don't like is that linux programs don't follow this and you have this problem on Windows too where folders have a dot in the main user folder.
>>108723904
>Enjoy your FUCKHUGE %PATH%
completely fine with that.
Instead of acting like a gorilla you should be hearning out the otherside.

>>108723328
>3.7GB idle
in what universe is that suppose to be good?

>>108723957
>hearning
kek it's so over for you

>>108723957
>I prefer the Windows model of Program files, Program files (x86), Program Data, Windows & users
\Program Files -> /opt
\ProgramData -> /etc, /usr/lib, /usr/share or whatever other insane crap
\Windows -> lol, lmao. most overloaded dumping ground of bizarre shit and a sort of faux /usr/bin /usr/sbin with the System32 folder
\users -> LITERALLY /home

what are you fucking on about?
if you install random shitware, you installed it with some kind of central database of what files it littered your computer with (MSI, some installer EXE bullshit) as much as RPM or apt. keeping shit in \Program Files vs shared output into /usr/{bin,lib} isn't really that much of a benefit.

you sound like a fucking retard who doesn't know how anything works, which is unsurprising to me at this point.

>>108716172
>back to the good old dos days with specific boot floppies for games
lol

>>108723997
whoa.... so fuckin based and trad.

>>108723980
only thing I think of that the Windows FHS does over Linux is WinSxS, but sonames are supposed to solve the problem WinSxS "solves" anyway. though Windows has more than just .dlls, with the whole COM bullshit where your DLLs become some weird IPC service other binaries can call instead of just linking it, but this is basically a really fucking weird form of dbus / binder honestly.

TWO MORE YEARS

>>108723980
Not him but I think you're autistic.
He is saying he prefers X and you keep telling that you can supposedly do the same with Y.

Even if you are right it doesn't matter, he prefers the other one

>>108724032
because they are the same. that's the point. any sane system is a mirror of what Linux is already doing.

>>108724047
You're missing the point.

>>108724054
no, you are. claiming either is better or not is retarded, especially when in practice wincucks flagrantly shit up their FS moreso than Linux.

>>108724059
ok anon
keep fighting him over his preferences then

>>108723957
For me, it’s the D: drive.

>>108723328
>>108723962
DESU trying to measure windows memory usage is the most worthless exercise imaginable.
Windows memory management operates differently based on how much free RAM you have.

Even Windows 11 will run on 2GB of RAM at which point it idles at ~1.4-1.5GB. You have about ~400MB for applications until Windows starts swapping active processes.

>>108724086
>For me, it’s the D: drive.
Nah A: is better I mount my drive there.

>>108716070
I wonder what it must be to work at Microsoft and to know that half the time your job is to undo the bullshit they paid you to do in the other half, and you know exactly how it’ll work out before you even start.

>>108724100
that's basically most jobs now. pointless busy work chasing line-go-up-isms. it's kind of insane how it hasn't all collapsed at this point.

>>108724100
>I wonder what it must be to work at Microsoft and to know that half the time your job is to undo the bullshit they paid you to do in the other half, and you know exactly how it’ll work out before you even start.
They aren't "undoing" anything the copilot buttons have become generic AI buttons and and they will rewrite all the react & javascript stuff in C++, they still exist but they're now written in C++

>>108724100
Every software company has two parts:
1. Jeets who shit out quick and fast garbage
2. The white senior engineers tasked with fixing their garbage.
Companies with more 1 and than 2 will rapidly turn to shit (or gradually, if its more even). Those with more 2 than 1 will manage to continue creating quality products and services.

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saar u vill get a native apps but we have to add the ai saaar

>>108724287
No E=mc2 + AI?

sad

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>>108723328
>>108719493
YOU'RE AFRAID OF COPILOT TAKING SCREENSHOTS OF YOUR DESKTOP AND YOUR START MENU BEING WRITTEN IN REACT NATIVE JUST DISABLE IT USING SERVICES.MSC.BAAL WITH SHUTUP!10 IOT LTSC LGBTQ2S+ROFL DOWNLOADED FROM ASSGRAVE.COM AND THEN AGAIN IN THE GROUP POLICY EDITOR AND THEN AGAIN IN THE REGISTRY EDITOR AND IT WILL BE PERFECT DURGA GORGEOUS LOOKS SIR WTF YOU'RE SAYING I SHOULD JUST USE LINUX WHAT ARE YOU SOME KIND OF TRANNY? TRANNY? TRANNY? TRANNY? TRANNY? TRANNY? AIFNAIOSNFUISBFIUZBAIWDNAIUNAFSFRWASFCXDZVXVDXFDFSEFSDF

26h2 is out later this year and should have all these fixes

knowing the jeets at scumsoft it will just be steamos rebranded with windows logos

>>108716070
ill use it. windows isnt horrible and is the most compatible with everything gaming related. it just werks for gaming.
my server runs linux cause thats what linux is for and it is the most compatible with server things it just werks for servers.
my desktop is mac because thats what its designed for and is the most compatible with productivity. it just werks for desktop.

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>>108716070
>jeetassed mountain code name
it's gonna fail

>>108722416
FOSS was never about stopping developers from adding stupid shit, but giving people the freedom to recompile the software with their own patches

>>108716833
>damage done
>damage: dramatubers said some gay shit, and retarded cattle adopted the opinions they were fed instead of thinking on their own

>>108716082
This. Windows can gtfo.

>>108716833
The amount of tinker trannying to make windows 11 not terrible is only worth it if things you use on a daily or weekly basis require it. There's some software and games that I need windows for so I did end up running through the gauntlet of windows debloat and installing 3rd party apps to actually make the UI not garbage etc. Even then I use my linux machine probably 85% of the time, sad part is windows actually could have been good but they just haven't given a shit about it for too long now and now the public consensus is it's shit, because it is. The brand is basically ruined among normie consumer tier users now. Hope they made their money back on the data collection

>>108716070
Sticking with Fedora.

>>108724792
>people
*Developers
Developers are not human.

>>108724948
Funniest part: They ruined it on the mainline brand Servers as well, Hyper-V usage fell 30% just last year alone.

They're just kept aloft through business software in the cloud. Especially now that Copilot is eating shit because nobody likes it.

>>108724948
Are people like actually installing Windows 11 home?
I've always used Win11 education or even the new LTSC versions and felt zero need to do anything besides disabling defender.
They have like nothing installed by default

>>108716070
their idea of "reducing bloat" to target linux was to add another mode ON TOP of windows. look at the os of rog xbox ally x

>>108725899
PEOPLE PEOPLE PEOPLE PEOPLE PEOPLE PEOPLE

Genuinely curious here, but I just built a PC and installed W11 on it, and yeah the massive bloatware and features were annoying but it took like not even a day to get rid of it, even if i tried one drive and copilot simply aren't on the machine anymore, everything works the way i want it to, no unwanted programs aren't getting pushed on me etc.

Taking this into account, is there any point in switching to linux now? The fact that I even had to spend time to debloat and tinker and tweak is ridiculous but honestly I don't see any problems with the OS as it's installed on my machine, whereas from what I know and I may be ignorant on this, Linux takes time to get set up right cause of the terminal plus uncertain compatibility when it comes to games, software etc. Again not siding with windows and fuck microsoft for enshittifying what was a good product but still is there any point for me to switch to Linux? Only thing I can think of is windows not letting me tweak the GUI.

>>108726634
>one drive and copilot simply aren't on the machine anymore
Report back after your first mandatory update and reboot

>>108726669
Yeah I'll see for myself, if copilot is reinstalled on here then fuck microsoft for real.

>>108726678
The new thing they're doing, is moving ahead full steam with slop integration, but not adding icons. So it's still there, you just can't even shut it off anymore.

The plan is kernel level integration of copilot. Copilot will be your os eventually. You'll pay for it, buy the compute with your money, but your system will be part of the cloud that they charge other users for.

What a time to be alive.

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>>108721644
You should be thankful that you think aversion to Indians is "internet edgelord mindset", because it means you haven't had to deal with them enough to hate them.

>>108726851
baytuh male
is JLP still kickin around? haven't seen anything about this guy in years

>>108723578
>what they are saying that steamOS has optimizations that Windows also needs.
That optimization is literally just "not being Windows".
Most Linux gaymen benchmarks are done with games running on Proton, not native games. Obviously in rare cases there will be games that run better on Linux for some reason or other, but Proton *consistently* squeezing out slightly better performance than Windows while having an extra layer of technical complexity is just insane, and freetards are right to brag about it. This should literally never happen unless Windows is just an unsalvageable mess.

>>108716070
>K2
>Using a Linux distro running KDE as a benchmark
It's going to krash.

>>108716070
>OH NO NON ON LINUXBROS, IT"S OVER LMFAOOO
linux was never going to win on the desktop, the entire stack is rotten heap of garbage and it's impossible to improve because of freedesktop mafia
>X11
garbage
>wayland
garbage
>xdg-portal
garbage
>DRM driver
garbage
>mesa
forever beta-tier software
>libinput
dogshit
>hibernate support
beyond laughable
>gtk
absolute disaster
>gnome
I won't say anything as I don't want yet another 3 days ban
>kde
*krashes in your way*
>any gtk-based DE
stuck in 2005 tech-wise
stuck in the 80s UX-wise
absolute disaster, good only if you barely use your computer like most larpers on here
>tiling
no one uses their computer like this, get fucking real, it's the worst way to navigate between software and you can't prove me wrong
>freetards
dealing with these subhumans is a fucking pain in the ass
>font handling
utter dogshit especially in gtk4-based software
utf-8 support is horrible
>API stability
APIs change all the fucking time and there is no versionning, it matters too much on the desktop to be ignored but for some reason linux desktards don't care?????? that's the ONLY reason windows is still the most used OS but these retards can't see it, fucking wasted opportunity.

and more
linux on desktop is barely more usable than 20 years ago, I've been using it daily at work for over a decade on my workstation and it's still as garbage now than it was 10 years ago, I've tried them all, even the most "stable" distros have clunky desktop experience, I'm now stuck on ubuntu (switched to 26.04, still garbage)
it just can't happen, it's impossible, the ones capable to make a move are dead set on making it impossible to improve the ecosystem and they'll go after you and your family if you try to change the status quo with 0 consequences (see the redhat employee doxxing and harrassing people, nothing ever happen to them)
I legit don't understand what's the end goal of redhat/gnome/freedesktop (the ones who basically own 90% ofthe stack)

>>108726991
>stuck in the 80s UX-wise
good

>>108726991
Post of the year, even read it twice. Planetary scale truth nuke.

>>108726914
I haven't heard anything about him not being around, so I assume he's out there still triggering people.

>>108724355
kek

>>108726171
>handheld that runs windows spyware is named "ZOG ally"
Makes you think...