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>>>Read the sticky: >>105076684

>GNU/Linux questions
>>>/g/fglt
>Windows questions >>>/g/fwt
>PC building? In this market?! >>>/g/pcbg
>Programming questions >>>/g/dpt
>Cheap electronics >>>/g/csg
>Server questions >>>/g/hsg
>Buying headphones >>>/g/hpg
>Useful programs and live Windows environment:
https://hirensbootcd.org/download/

Previous: >>108696259
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>>108737541
Should I put my board game pdfs in the documents or games folder?
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>>108737554
put them in documents and then link/junction the directory to games
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>>108737559
>link/junction
I'm on Linux sir...
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>>108737562
links exist on linux
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>>108737565
Guess I'm gonna have to learn how to do that then.
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>>108737571
the command is ln, manpages should tell you the rest
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>>108737559 (Me)
What should I do with bookmark.baks? Just import them into my current browser then delete the bak and save the new one?
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I have not pirated a movie in probably 15 years. I'm going on an international flight soon with no in-flight entertainment, so I want to load up my laptop with some movies. Where do people download movies or TV shows nowadays?
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>>108738022
Honestly, you're better off taking a book or just downloading some long form youtube videos at this point.
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>>108738022
1337x, torrent galaxy, kickass torrents. rutracker has probably the biggest selection but it's harder to browse.
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>>108738021 (Me)
Apparently I can't import the bookmarks for some reason...? I had a .bak and a .txt and converted the .txt to a .html to import and it didn't work, there's 186 pages in that .txt and I don't want to spend hours manually adding them, what do?
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>>108738021
i don't understand the relation to what you were talking about before, but if you're trying to restore bookmarks, yes you'd import them from a file in the manage bookmarks interface of whatever browser you're using. typically your browser is going to expect a different format; firefox actually has two different menu depending on what format you're restoring from (restore and import).
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>>108738076
by "converted the txt to a html" what do you mean, did you just rename it to html? that's obviously not going to work, your browser expects the html file to be in a particular format.

.bak doesn't mean anything, it's just a way people refer to backup files, you'd want to try and figure out what type of file that actually is. you could open it with a text editor and if it's plaintext you can probably figure out what kind of file it is that way. otherwise you'd want to check the magic number.
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>>108738105
>did you just rename it to html? that's obviously not going to work, your browser expects the html file to be in a particular format.
No I opened it with LibreOffice and did "save as... > .html" under filetype.
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>>108738022
I would just use the search engine built in to qbittorrent
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>>108738111
try this or something similar https://github.com/gurjeetsinghvirdee/text-to-bookmark
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Are bluetooth keyboards safe? I'm havaing trouble finding a keybaord that's less than 10 inches in height, red/pink. and is wired. I don't trust bluetooth and I'm worried someone can connect to it without my permission. I only trust wired ones finding a keyboard seems almost impossible
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4chanx suddenly stared doing this inline quoting thing. I don't even know what option it is called and there are like hundreds. I just want everything on the same level. Thank you.
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>>108738965
Shift+T
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>>108738973
Thank you.
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>>108737541
Is there a place I can go to learn about computer file archiving? I have a copy of all of my files on an external drive but what if that external drive fails? Should I just buy another external drive to store the files or should I store them a different way? What about files that I archive but the only copy is on that external? Should I separate them from the other archive files? They are generally sensitive information like tax returns and such.
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>>108739104
if it's important data you can't afford to lose, follow 3-2-1: three copies of your data, two different types of media, and one offsite/cloud
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>>108739104
This >>108739116 and validate (scrub) your backups periodically. It helps if you can use a filesystem like btrfs or zfs where scrub, differentials, compression, and deduplication are all built-in on the filesystem level.
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>>108738028
This. Most TV shows are so bad I refuse to watch them for free. They need to be paying me.
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is linking to posts in threads other than the one you're posting in broken?
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>>108737541
Anyone know of a good password brute force program or macro?

I remember 95% of it but the last word in the passphrase I forgot for a veracrypt drive. No lock out on attempts so I can keep trying, but its an entire volume so no .hc to select just entering every guess into the popup window. Probably come to me eventually but the last couple years fucked up my memory a little
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>>108739480
No, you're probably doing it wrong
>>>/wsg/6129812
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How is porn hosted? Hosts and carriers have aup usually ban porn or even the N word. How much money is required?
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>>108739709
It's not a question of how much money you have but who your mother is.
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Why would xfce's terminal emulator not recognise kanji fonts?
thunar and the other graphical tools are fine.
xterm is fine, I installed st and that's also fine. so what could be up?
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How do i unbloat the steam client? are there alternative clients i can use for steam? i only want to play 1 specific game on this old PC but Steam hogs resources so hard
PC is a late 2000's Intel Core2 Quad with a 2012 graphics card (h264 decoding, no h265) which is more than plenty for the games i want but steam seems even more demanding than the game itself lmao
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>>108740249
best thing i've found is to set it to run in small mode, restart, and then close the small mode window and just run the game from the context menu from the tray icon. it still spawns at least one steamwebhelper process but at least it's not like 50.
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>>108740249
Steamless probably works on most games which would run on hardware that age. There's a whole bunch of open source removal tools for various incarnations of Valve DRM.
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>>108740335
wheres the small mode thing?
Im looking this up: https://gist.github.com/davispuh/6600880
im gonna test the following on linux
$ steam -480p -cef-winxp -disablehighdpi -html-perf-monitor -no-cef-sandbox -nobigpicture -nofriendsui -noshaders -oldtraymenu -opengl -system-composer -vrdisable -offlinemode
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>>108740429
in the main steam window, it's under view between downloads and big picture mode
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Asking here because /hpg/ doesn't seem to be a thing (anymore?).
I need your help bwos... I think I'm gonna cry with how disappointed I'm at my Sony XM4's compared to my old Razer Opus X. I held it in for 6 months thinking they're better, but no, I miss my fucking shitty cheap gaming headphones with dubious ANC and muddy sound. The XM4 are unusable when wireless, I play a video on youtube, an anime/movie on MPC, or play a game, and the delay just kills any immersion I might have. I have to plug them in and power them on to get 0 latency and good sound, which ruins the purpose of WIRELESS HEADPHONES! My Opus X had 0 latency even with Bluetooth, no, HAVE, because I still have them despite the fact they're falling apart due to a shitty hinge design. I'd buy a new pair, but apparently they're discontinued, fuck my life.

What the fuck do I buy? Budget 100-200 euro, used is fine, wireless headphones with low latency for gaming on a Windows 11 PC, should sound no worse than the Opus X, ideally better. The XM4's do NOT sound amazing, they sound fine, the highs are really "prickly" and the bass is a bit too weak, but they're decent overall. Okay for the 125 euro I paid, but not for gaming or movies.
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Looking for some software for two unrelated things, prefer Linux, but can deal with Windows if I have to. Thanks if anyone knows of one.

Timeline with custom images creation, a flowchart will do its just most don't really let you use your own icons or its clunky to try.

Lithophane software (making a 3D image/model based on grayscale of a 2D image)
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Is it just me or 4chan quick reply is broken?

It sometimes posts a thread instead of a reply
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Is there any kind of review aggregator for ISPs? Moving to a new place soon and for once I've got several decent choices and outside of "never get comcast" I'm not really sure which to go for. I just don't want to pick one and then end up with retarded shit like catbox being blocked or torrents refusing to function, which I've had in the past.
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>>108740666
This is heavily dependent on location

Look groups/forums on your city/suburb then ask what's good. Maybe ask your neighbors what ISP doesn't suck when you move in.
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Just upgraded to Debian 13 and apparently they removed GPA from the repo, can't make install it because dependencies. Kleopatra is terrible and impossible to figure out.

Why do distro maintainers have to be such useless retards
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>>108740807
debian is going through tough times, theres literally a lack of people in the project afaik, most of it is old farts that may quit or die at any point and have no replacement
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Where do I start with embedded systems?
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how can I encrypt my porn flashdrive so it's mountable by both itodler and loonix

idc if it's mountable by wangblows or not since I'm never looking back
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I currently use a 10amp 250volt power cord for my PC. I got a new one that was 10amp 125volt and my sound output dropped over half, and my friend said my mic was more quiet in discord. Everything else is fine.


Google, Reddit, AI, all says this should have no effect. What the fuck?
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>>108740898
+ the jeet that just won the voting, its basically a dead project for me
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is it safe to remove the lenovo db secure boot keys?
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>>108741385
You changed something else, they should both have the same wire inside.
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>>108741530
I changed literally nothing else
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why is my github contribution map missing the past 2 months of stuff ive uploaded to my project
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>>108741385
Bad ground connection on the new cord maybe, but just as likely you're retarded and something else changed on the PC.
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>>108741810
It was a two pack and both do it.
Literally the only thing I did was change cords.
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>>108737541
How much information does 4chins keep about us?
I missed the leak
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>>108737541
I've never built a pc myself, I found a used pc on fb market for 375 usd with this specs:
>ryzen 5 3600x
>rtx 2060
>motherboard msi b550m
>16gb ram (8x2)
>512gb ssd
>psu evga 500w
>hdd 1tb
>corsair case
>darkflash fans
Is this a fair price?
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>>108742509
>hdd 1tb
idk but why tf do people get these super small HDDs? 4TB drive costs like peanuts more.
Hell, I bought a 1.5TB drive with my shitty europoor neetbux back in 2010 or so.
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Is there a reliable program that can evaluate the "health" of one's PC's hardware that also works on Linux without programs like Bottles/Wine etc.?

I have been having Linux problems relating to crashes and graphics resets and I want to rule out whether it is a hardware problem or me being a Windlet being hazed by Linux or I am just tech illiterate or all of them.


>>108742207
Too much.
All the posts I've made on this site whether feeling like being an edgy bad boy or when venting or asking embarrassing questions will one day surface.
And I will be painted as a terrible person as people are generally their more authentic selves when anonymous online.

Online privacy is always eventually compromised by companies and/or governments because it gets abused due to illegal activities.
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>>108742538
Your drives have smart data. Your OS keeps event logs when the cpu faults. There are ram testers like memtestx86. There are GPU tests like Furmark and 3Dmark.
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>>108742529
>245€->750€
1 tb to 4 tb costs like 2 times more.
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is 4chanx fucked up? i can't see filenames of webms anymore.
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>>108742615
same here
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Is there a board or thread that talks about office/room furniture stuff for example I'm looking for an office chair and the only time I see it is minor posting related to that is on /bst/ on /g/ but that's it.
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>>108742615
>>108742794
gemini gave me this, works until someone tell me that's bullshit
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>>108742896
it works, but now hovering over images doesn't work.
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>>108742615
same but I'm using xt and not x
probably just jeetape breaking the site unintentionally again
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Can anyone with 4chan-X tell me if you see the file info bar for this post?
>>>/jp/50911110
normal file post for reference
>>>/jp/50911052
It seems a meta element is added instead of the proper fileText element. It only happens with videos. I tried both on XT and X (new install)
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>>108742615
>>108742794
ah shit it's not just me. I opened an issue on the repo
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>>108743140
I tested the change proposed by >>108742896 and it seems to work. Even image hovering works >>108742958 I opened a PR on the repo
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What can I do with Shizuku on an android phone? I don't understand what it does.
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So nobody continued the development of 4chan XT?
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>>108743354
https://github.com/timschneeb/awesome-shizuku
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>>108743366
why would anyone do that? it was supposed to be a rewrite to merge back into X but ccd0 never did that so tako ended up adding more and more features making the merge less likely. honestly outside of maintainability the only things I miss from XT are filter reasons on stubs and hide-by-id on boards that support that
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>>108743394
>why would anyone do that?
well, that's because XT seems to have more feature than X?
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What is the best non-systemd init system? I want to get away from systemd but dont know anything about the alternatives. what are the advantages and disadvantages / intended goals of each?
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>>108743401
I didn't ask why anyone would use that. I asked why anyone would maintain that. It's a completely different codebase so you can't even piggyback upstream for important fixes and focus just on your own features. It's a thankless job. You are more likely to find someone willing to backport from XT into X
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>>108743502
>I asked why anyone would maintain that
and this is what I responded to
>well, that's because XT seems to have more feature than X?

>It's a completely different codebase so you can't even piggyback upstream for important fixes and focus just on your own features
ok at least, that answer it, I guess I will continue updating myself the XT then
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>>108737541
Did an AV scan with ClamAV on Linux. It gave me this output. I am trying to figure out what the infected files were and what the antivirus did with them. Can anyone help? It took me 3-4 days to do this scan and I don't want to repeat it all over.
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Why do you have to generate seekbar thumbnails in advance, taking up disk space, on Plex and Jellyfin when Potplayer can just do it on the fly?
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>>108744364
It's faster to seek cached thumbnails on slower devices than to make the CPU do it on the fly. It's noticeable with phones where old ones choke loading lists while new ones are instant.
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>>108742896
Thank you based AI-mancer. It works now.
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>>108742896
>>108743213
>4chanx is now vibe coded
The jeets won.
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>>108744387
But surely the Plex/Jellyfin server could generate the thumbnail on the fly and send it to the client even if it would be slow for the client to generate it itself
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>>108744833
the cached method is always faster than the loading on the fly method. try it with ps3.
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>>108744813
Anon I've got the feeling the php latrine that is this website is also vibecoded. Just let it happen
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>>108743463
https://nosystemd.org/
This might help you out?
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I am trying once more to get pi-hole setup. its not working right.
I have it installed on a 2nd gen i7 hp laptop running Mint. it did not like fedora or ubuntu
the laptop has been reserved on the router, I can log into the pihole admin page.

I am using a TPLink router, and when I follow the instructions here:
https://discourse.pi-hole.net/t/how-do-i-configure-my-devices-to-use-pi-hole-as-their-dns-server/245
to setup the laptop's IP address as the primary DNS server, my internet creeps to a very slow pace.
2nd method says to use dnsmasq. I cannot find this setting anywhere on the router.

What am I doing wrong here?
The pos laptop, even though its an i7, only has a 100MBit ethernet port. Is this the bottleneck?
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>>108745454
make sure it's connected via a wired connection to the router so it's not trying to resolve shit over wifi. try pinging the laptop from another device to see if there's some sort of latency issue.

also consider checking out adguard home, i believe it's better-maintained and easier to set up these days.
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>>108745694
I have it hardwired and wifi is disabled.
I can ping the laptop no issues there
I am trying method 3 where I manually configure DNS on each device (testing with a win11 laptop) its DNS is the same IP as the laptop but when i check the pihole console, there are no clients. internet is working fine on the win11 machine. ipconfig shows correct dns server
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>>108745733
nm about the client list, that is not what i thought it was.

i manually configured DNS on a test laptop. I see through the pihole console that its filtering traffic. I tried youtube.com on the laptop and its playing all the ads via incognito mode with all extensions disabled.
tried an adblock test website, shows 70% ads blocked.
same test on a different machine using ublock origins shows 2% blocked.
so i guess its working but not for youtube?
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>>108745763
dns adblockers are more limited in functionality as they can only rely on blocking based on hostname and are therefore often unable to block youtube ads because google deliberately tries to break adblockers on youtube. browser adblockers have more functionality to work with and are better able to do so.
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>>108743366
how's paradox460's fork of it? https://github.com/paradox460/4chan-xt
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>>108745788
I can combine both then, no?
I already have YouTube Premium since I mainly watch that, I was merely testing it without logging in.
I want all other ads to be blocked on all devices that are connected to my network. like my cheapo friends who has HBO Max with ads and anytime they come over to stream something I have to stare at ads.
and I want to use a normal android browsers and not see stupid ads on my phone.
I google a product on my desktop and my roommate starts seeing ads on his FB for the same shit.
I want to eliminate that
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>>108745842
>I can combine both then, no?
yes
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>>108745972
ok, great
well its not stacking.
if i use chrome with ublock, it says its blocking only 7% of ads
if I disable ublock, it says its blocking 70% of the ads
android wont let me setup an ip address as a dns server. dns.adgaurd kinda sucks and still slips through ads.

adgaurd home aint free
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>>108746016
>adgaurd home aint free
it is https://github.com/AdguardTeam/AdGuardHome/releases/tag/v0.107.74

i'm not sure why they're conflicting, i've never seen that happen, i have agh hosted on a desktop and chromium with ublock origin lite scores 86%
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>>108746050
oh so there is a free version.
then what is that other thing they are trying to sell me?
https://adguard.com/en/license.html
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>>108745828
Help a retard here, what do i get to install?
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>>108746063
i think that's their full feature product that you just run and handles everything for whatever device you run it on. not sure, i've never really looked into it. the only two products of theirs i use are both free, adguard home for coverage on my home network and adguard dns for any devices i use outside of my home network.
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>>108746104
ok thanks.

guess ill give up on pihole and try adgaurd
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>>108746069
4chan-XT.user.js
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>>108746187
Thanks.
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>>108742896
wtf did you prompt to get this answer?
did you paste in the 26k of loc and told it to fix it or somethign
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>>108746069
>>108746187
>>108745828
Did installing this forked version fix the issue?
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>>108746413
probably not, someone should raise an issue so the dev knows something needs fixing
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What is a good way to figure out compatible replacement PSU's? I have a prebuilt dell and haven't been able to nail down a good way to figure out what PSU's are compatible with it. The compatible parts section of dell only lists ram and a data cable, the service manual makes no mention of it. I called dell and the robot said my the equivalent of "tough luck" since my desktop has been out of warranty since July 2021.
I suspect my PSU is failing since my hard drive has recently been randomly disconnecting and reappearing on restart. I did get a new hard drive and transferred over my files but now I know that its not a hard drive problem since the new one is disconnecting instead of the old one. I think I should be able to replace my PSU just fine I just need to know which ones would actually work with my system.
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>>108746586
Search 'dell psu adapter' + your model and hook it up to the closest standard size PSU. Typically it's not worth the trouble because you can just buy a new mini PC or another used SFF for not a lot more than the cost + effort of replacing a proprietary SFF PS.
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>>108746232
give ai the userscript and vibecode a prompt explaining the error and how to fix it
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>>108737577

you likely want symbolic link
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>>108743463

i think old mxlinux was systemd free also included libdvdcss or something to play dvd
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>>108737541
>post on chromium
It's fine
>try to post on brave
>"Your IP has been temporarily banned due to misconduct. Please register your Email."
What kind of fucking lying bullshit is this unless Brave is doing something to mask my IP?
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>>108737541
recommend me a magnesium alloy mouse that isn't made by a Chinese company, it can be made in China but I don't particularly want to be a patron to Chinese companies.
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Why does my 4chanx suddenly not show webm and mp4 filenames? If I reload the page, it shows it very briefly but then it stops showing it. I turned adblock off and it didn't fix it.
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>>108748108
Hah I came here to post the same thing. Everything is set up correctly in 4chanx
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>>108748108
>>108748189
https://github.com/ccd0/4chan-x/issues/3557 nevermind it's already being discussed. A fix should hopefully be released "soon"
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>>108748205
>last commit is from decemeber
>xt is dead
will no one save us?
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>>108740382
can you play online games with steamless?
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How can I clean my monitors and tvs to not leave streaks if I don't have any distilled water
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I am not seeing a home networking/router thread so here's my stupid question:

what's the (currentyear) equipvalent of the old recommended WRT54G router for home use?

my router has started randomly dropping the connection intermittently and I think it's dying, so I want to get in front of that before I "have" to

current model is a netgear WNR3500L

I want a consumer device that I can just slap dd-wrt or opentomato or something similar on and go - not a fucking raspi or nuc that I will need to actively maintain

cheers
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why is arch linux not more straight forward to install when at this point it seems extremely popular, popular with no -technical people and widely supported with tons of time people spend around it? I've used harder distros with graphical installers. Is it a philosophy thing?
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>>108746413

>>108746069 Anon here, no i just wanted to know how to install that fork because i was still using the other one that was cancelled because of the hack.
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can someone tell me what's up with webms not having visible file names anymore? I don't see any setting on 4chanX
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>>108738965
Header, down arrow, uncheck. You can remove it from the menu by going to settings and unchecking "Quote threading", at the very bottom.
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>>108748709
Did you not scroll up like 5 fucking replies? Goddamn you fucking idiot
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>>108748765
>/sqt/ - Stupid Questions Thread
>NOOOO STOP ASKING STUPID QUESTIONS
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>>108748807
how many trannies are there in your tranny folder
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>>108748583
Arch with an installer is called EndeavourOS. Also the "archinstall" script is supposedly good now.
>Is it a philosophy thing?
Yes, they do the bare minimum and call it simplicity.
>>108745454
Didn't read the link but posting anyway.
Ideally you'd go configuring the DHCP advertisement the router hands out to your local DHCP clients. The Pi-Hole's IP as a DNS server should be in that advertisement, not the way you are currently configuring it: making the router use the Pi-Hole as a parent DNS. Two different things.
Or how about configure all your clients manually instead of using DHCP? How many devices you have in your home?
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>>108748484
gl-inet Flint 2 / OpenWRT
Broadcom NDA shit is obsolete.
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>>108748432
Probably not.
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>>108737541
does anyone know why both webums and mp4 dont show any info about them? im using 4chan x and gifs and normal pics do show filename and all the other info

its clearly something to do with the scripts because when I disable them the info is back to normal
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I'm planning on moving files from NTFS on Windows to Linux with a CoW filesystem, I have a lot of hardlinks but I want them to be reflinks in the destination. I see
rsync -avH
can preserve the hardlinks and I can run another command to convert all the destination hardlinks into reflinks in place, but can I do it in one go so the copy job takes source hardlinks and makes them reflinks on the destination?
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Can I get a 16TB hard drive, split it down the middle and treat it as RAID 1?
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>>108750506
The entire point of RAID is redundancy. If you have one drive, where does the redundancy come from?
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>>108750556
I know it wouldn't help if the controller dies but it'd help mitigate bad sectors, wouldn't it?
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>>108750575
If you're getting so many bad sectors that it's a concern, you need to get a new drive ASAP.
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>>108748061
bumping my question
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Why are other degrees so much easier compared to computer science? There's guys who only have to write papers with citations while I have to build facebook for my final thesis. Medicine is definitely much easier too. It's just a memory thing.
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I've had a laptop sleeve for like a month or two, but it's just a little bit too tight along the axis of the shorter edge of the (closed) laptop.
Recently one of the keys has been occasionally getting stuck down for a fraction of a second and when it comes up it makes a loud clacky noise. Could it be related to the sleeve?
It could just be debris, but I tried blowing it out and it didn't help (I don't have an air compressor).
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>>108751074
People always feel pity for themselves, you're no exception.
It also heavily depends on the College, not just the degree.
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>>108750506
Isn't two 8TB drives cheaper?
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I'm new to Linux and using CachyOS I have been doing pretty well with Groks advice and using YouTube but I have a problem and that is I don't know why the emulators I install won't save game data files to their directories in the home config folder anybody you know why
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>>108751271
>won't save game data files to their directories in the home config folder anybody you know why
>the home config folder
You mean ~/.config specifically? idk shit about emulators specifically but Linux programs don't always follow the ~/.config (or ~/.cache) convention, it's not set in stone. Older convention is to use ~/.program where "program" is the name of the program. On top of that they might save their files in completely arbitrary locations.
Consult the user manuals of those emulators, they usually point out which locations are used.
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>>108751074
you can vibecode facebook. meanwhile a dentist needs to be 100% or they get malpractice sued.
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I downloaded a discography off of nicotine+ a couple years ago and only recently realised I downloaded it into a folder with a bunch of other songs, so the order is all fucked up and they're not in the right folders. Tried using MusicBrains to sort them into the correct folders but it didn't fully fix them all, so I just want to redownload them.
I know the account that I downloaded it from originally, but they don't seem to be active so I can't redownload them directly. Supposing they haven't died or forgot their password and will eventually come back, is there any way to have my client open up whenever they're online or something?



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