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Previous thread >>108806830
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I am considering backing up my firefox configs on git. A git init in my user profile, gitignore * and then a list of things to backup. Is this good practice or a recipe for disaster?
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why would it be a disaster?
keep all your dotfiles and configs in a central folder, link them to their locations, then write a service file to sync them once a day.
this should be SOP for anyone not retarded. keep the repo private if you want.
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>>108822276
Why not use a real backup solution like borg instead of git?
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i got openmw to work on a shitty thinkcenter m910q/void linux. morrowind runs great. highly recommended if anyone wants to replay morrowind. there are isos on archive.org
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I want to back up a btrfs subvolume from my desktop to my server, but every btrfs backup solution I've looked at kind of confused me and I don't need fully automatic backups. Can I just send/receive over ssh? How would I through a script?
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>>108822580
?????????????????

sudo btrfs subvolume snapshot -r /mnt/data/my_subvol /mnt/data/my_subvol_backup
sudo btrfs send /mnt/data/my_subvol_backup | ssh user@my-server "sudo btrfs receive /path/to/server/backup_dir"
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>>108822413
because I already keep my dotfiles on my local git so might as well use the same service. I just found out about user.js so instead of an entire backup I might just cherrypick my essentials configs and leave the rest default about:support#modified-key-prefs
backing up bookmarks is still up in the air though. I don't care about history since I clear it on shutdown
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What are this thread's thoughts on CachyOS?
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>>108822952
I have an RTX 5070, so Linux has been kind of weird for me, even though people like to pretend it’s not.
I got it installed, but I’ve already broken it twice: once trying to switch from Wayland to X11 because Claude told me it would fix my VRR + HDR issues, and another time when I disabled the login screen.
Would still recommend it if you have time to spare. I still like it tho.
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>>108822648
It's really that simple? Goddamn. I've only ever used ssh in interactive mode.
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i'am new to linux how do i this for cinnanom to get rid of GTK file picker https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/108303392/#108309960
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>>108823303
You do exactly what that anon did. For Firefox you might have to set
widget.use-xdg-desktop-portal.file-picker
to 1 in about:config too.
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Out of all the distros I've come across Gentoo honestly seems like the coolest even if it isn't beginner friendly at all. After setting everything up is it really that hard to use? I kinda want to try it out for the meme.
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>>108823467
Unlike Arch in which the difficulty and complexity is very frontloaded, Gentoo is ass on a day-to-day- basis. So, keep that in mind.
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>>108823458
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/108303392/#108309892
do i download them from terminal or software manager?
Which file do i do for
>Then create the file ~/.config/xdg-desktop-portal/portals.conf and put these lines in it:
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>>108823066
>switch from Wayland to X11 because Claude told me it would fix my VRR + HDR issues
X11 doesn't even support VRR and HDR.
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>>108823544
I noticed, Claude might be retarded.
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>>108823524
>do i download them from terminal or software manager?
Either should work. If the software manager doesn't find the packages you have to run the sudo apt install command in the terminal

The ~ in file paths is your home directory /home/username (replace username with your actual username). Basically it's the directory you're in if you open your file manager. So
~/.config/xdg-desktop-portal/portals.conf
is the same as
/home/username/.config/xdg-desktop-portal/portals.conf


Directory names that start with a dot are hidden. You can toggle the visibility of hidden files in the file manager or in the file open/save dialog by pressing ctrl+h
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>>108823647
I have both now downloaded from software manager
so now i need to make files?
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im bamboozled by how snappier plasma feels compared to win11
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>>108823647
>>108823779
do i have to do it in terminal?
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>>108823804
It doesn't matter how you create the file. You can open a texteditor, paste the content and save it to that path
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>>108823819
i try put the ~/.config/xdg-desktop-portal/portals.conf as the name but it says it can not be named such
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>>108823863
Don't know which text editor you're using but you probably can't put the entire path in the name field.
The file itself is called portals.conf and it has to go into ~/.config/xdg-desktop-portal/
So just navigate to that place (create the xdg-desktop-portal directory if it doesn't exist) and save it as portals.conf
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>>108823898
how do i create the xdg-desktop-portal directory
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>>108823797
It's what happens when not every single system application + GUI is a miniature Chrome.
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>>108823932
There's a button somewhere in the save dialog. Have you ever saved a file?
You can also just paste this into the terminal and be done

mkdir ~/.config/xdg-desktop-portal && cat << EOF > ~/.config/xdg-desktop-portal/portals.conf
[preferred]
default=gtk
org.freedesktop.impl.portal.FileChooser=lxqt
EOF
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>>108823970
where do i run the killall xdg-desktop-portal now? on terminal?
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>>108824019
Yes
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>>108824043
it said no command found
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>>108824043
but luckily it works!!
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>>108824066
Then xdg-desktop-portal wasn't running. That's okay
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>>108824085
Yeah this is million times better file picker than the old GTK one
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I'm running mint 22.3 and x11 has been maxing out on connections constantly over the past few days. At first I thought it was steam but steam just happened to be the first program to complain in journalctl. I reformatted before I pinpointed what was happening because I was overdue for a reformat anyway and it didn't help. I'm assuming there's not really much I can do aside from waiting for a hotfix or doing my own bandaid fix like increasing the connections cap? Is anyone else dealing with this shit?
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Recommendations for basic (and free) video editing programs?
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>>108824882
openshot
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>>108824877
If it happens again run
ss -x | grep '/tmp/.X11-unix/X0' | grep -oP '(?<=pid=)\d+' | xargs -n 1 ps -o comm= -p | sort | uniq -c | sort -rn

to see exactly who is hogging the sockets.
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>>108824877
Do you have Steam "friend is online/playing game" messages enabled? That was causing x11 window exhaustion for me.
>>
Gonna try out CachyOS since I heard it's pretty good, but there's a bunch of options i'm seeing including file system, bootloader, etc.

What should I pick?
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>>108825110
If you don't know then pick the first option.

Personally, I would go BTRFS for filesystem and limine for bootloader (I think that's an option?) but just pick the first one if you're unsure.
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>>108825110
>What should I pick?
Btrfs and Limine
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Why is runing Brave on flatpack bad?
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>>108825178
Because the joke of a security team at Brave don't know if it's secure and can't be bothered to conduct a review to find out.
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>>108825178
It's not bad. It's just that they don't have the skills to check if in-browser security is compromised by Flatpak's alternative to one of the tools Chromium uses for process sandboxing.
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>>108825178
Supposedly it's a problem with all flatpak chromium browsers, the sandboxing of flatpak breaks the natural chromium sandboxing which isolates tabs and web pages from each other, basically meaning websites and tabs [could] read each other's data which [could] be a security / privacy issue.
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>>108825082
That doesn't seem to work, but I did
lsof -U +c 15 | cut -f1 -d' ' | sort | uniq -c | sort -rn | head -10

earlier and it seemed to be both brave and discord hogging way more connections than they should ever be so I'm going to assume there is some underlying problem with some package they depend on causing the leak.

>>108825100
I'm hitting limits even with steam closed now but I'll definitely disable that.
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>>108825245
It doesn't break it, it just replaces it with an alternative way of doing it.
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>>108822246
this really makes me never want to use yama. just say yama is starting jfc. you don't need this bullshit
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>>108825548
lel do the mindful
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>>108825579
KEK
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Is there any solution for latency on Wayland? I have yet to use any compositor that doesn't have extremely noticable input lag, especially on my 60hz laptop using the touch pad. Sway was especially bad, i had issues using the mouse and would over/undershoot buttons because the mouse would lag immensely. Am I stuck on x11 forever?
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>>108825645
Turn off mouse acceleration and adjust USB polling
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>>108825750
Although, USB poll rate isn't relevant for trackpads
If you have some gamer mouse, etc, you can adjust it though. Most likely the cause of the input lag is just the trackpad being shit unless you happen to be using legacy synpatic drivers in X11, etc, then they are both using the exact same libinput driver.
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I followed y'all's advice and got qemu. I followed the instructions and got everything set up except one thing. I ran lsmod on KVM which returns this:
>kvm 1593344 0
>irqbypass 16384 1 kvm
The Arch wiki says if kvm is returning text while kvm-amd is not, then there must be a problem with hardware acceleration being disabled by default on my CPU (AMD Ryzen 5). The problem is, how do I enable it? I checked BIOS and there's too many options for me to determine which one will fix this particular problem or which one will brick my PC. When I ran dmesg all I could see is:
>[ 639.105442] kvm_amd: SVM not supported by CPU 3

I feel like I'm in too deep to give up and use virtualbox. Especially because running embroidery machine software on a Windows 7 VM will require intricate BIOS and driver controls that qemu provides access to.
pic related: I am hyperfocusing and cannot afford to lose it
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>>108825865
btw I'm using an MSI Tomahawk mobo which interfaces with AMD overclocking.
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>>108825253
Yeah I'm not technically sure what really happens, only that every chromium fork maintainer advices against using flatpak.
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I fucking love Plasma's oxygen theme, not because of muh fruti(nig)ger aero but because of its grey-ish theme in general, it's way easier to the eye than Breeze's light theme
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>>108825865
>The Arch wiki says if kvm is returning text while kvm-amd is not
Huh, never occurred to me to check what the guest system says about the virtualised hardware. I thought virtualisation either works or doesn't.
>or which one will brick my PC
PCs don't get bricked.
>>108825142
>>108825149
Why would someone without any knowledge on filesystems pick btrfs over something like EXT4? Or F2FS even?
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>>108826153
when I said "brick my PC" I was more referring to my apprehension towards removing hardware limitations meant to keep my machine (or components thereof) from getting fried. I'm not a tech person and I'm too lazy to distro hop so I might as well learn to deal with an Arch fork.
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>>108826153
>Why would someone without any knowledge on filesystems pick btrfs over something like EXT4? Or F2FS even?
Does it even matter for the average desktop linux user
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i fuckin love my looniks
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anyone familiar with 'keyd' or similar input remapping software? I'd like to remap the arrow keys such that ctrl+h is left arrow, ctrl+j is down arrow and so on; is it possible?
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What shell you recommend and why?
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>>108826364
bash

you don't need more
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I want to escape jeetware, is the linux community (excluding KDE) a friend or foe when it comes to avoiding their shitware.
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>>108826364
fish because autosuggestions and nice tab completions with zero configuration required. Just set your terminal emulator to run a custom command /usr/bin/fish. No need to set it as your default shell.
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>>108826364
Powershell, unironically.
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>>108826364
I've never needed anything other than bash.
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>Kernal updated
>Gpu qemu Vm passthrough is now completely fucked and gives a kernal panic when trying to launch the VM
>Have no idea how to fix this
Kill me
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>>108826565
this is why I left the gpu passthrough wagon, too unpredictable and fragile, wishing SR-IOV would come to consumer gpus
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>>108826584
dude, when I built my PC years ago I bought a second GPU just to do GPU passthrough but proton was so good I just never ended up needing it
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>>108826607
Lucky you. I used to need a windows pc handy for testing. And it had to be windows because of fucking internet explorer
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does PROTON_FSR4_UPGRADE=1 use fsr4.1?
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>>108824882
Flowblade is pretty good for simple stuff
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idk if it's my repo config or the newest Kate but it now works perfectly with Ruby, autocompletion and everything, bretty gud
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>"Ok I'm going to try installing Linux today"
>put some ISOs on Ventoy
>none of them work, some folders not found
>Put Bazzite on a USB drive with Rufus
>"Kernel panic, VFS: Unable to mount root fs"
>Put CachyOS on the drive
>"EFI system partition is too small", then install gets stuck and doesn't move
I'm gonna give Nobara a shot tomorrow but god damn nothing fucking works
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>>108826364
zsh is the objectively best one

>>108826944
Ventoy doesn't work with a lot of distros. Bazzite even explicitly says so in their install guide. Use Etcher or Rufus.
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Is cachyOS’ sudden rise in popularity actually justified in that it is a good idiot proof arch Linux operating system?
What’s the best de to pick when installing on a more powerful pc then?

And why would someone choose an arch Linux OS over others like Debian or fedora?
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>>108826944
>none of them work, some folders not found
>"Unable to mount root fs"
I had a similar issue trying to install FreeBSD using Ventoy and it complained about being unable to mount something, I was banging my head against the wall till I realized I was using an outdated version of Ventoy, updating Ventoy fixed issue for me
>>108827250
>Ventoy doesn't work with a lot of distros
Ventoy has a list of tested ISOs, always check that before putting an ISO in Ventoy:
https://www.ventoy.net/en/isolist.html
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>>108826565
Rollback your kernel? Old kernels are usually kept unless you manually delete them
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>>108826565
>updating
never do this
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>>108826944
fedora image writer always works and you can use it on windows.
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>>108827284
it's not idiot proof, you still need to learn how arch operate in general using the command line
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>>108827329
Will the arch wiki be good enough to have me learn to work with most things cachyOS related?
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how to install wine 1.1 or 1.8 ? I don't need more.
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>>108827284
It's just Arch but with binary optimised packages for newer hardware.
>>108826471
One could want/need Dash for running loads of scripts on a limited hardware.
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>>108827297
>>108826584
>>108827300
Figured it out. My cpu is putting out bank 5 errors. Rip 5800xd.
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what should i do on my 2011 laptop?
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i run linux mint btw
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>>108827614
Sell it for $50 and buy a new one.
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How do I enable shared pixmaps in my X server. And is it off by default? I already tried startx +extension MIT-SHM
$xdpyinfo -ext MIT-SHM
MIT-SHM version 1.2 opcode: 130, base event: 65, base error: 128
shared pixmaps: no
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Brave seems cool but
>Logs you out of Youtube every time
>Clears 4chan coockies
Hmm......
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>>108827812
can't you set exceptions or just disable that feature entirely? I don't know about brave but on firefox it's possible
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>>108827812
There'd have to be a setting you can toggle that doesn't wipe your cookies like this after every exit. That ain't normal.
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what are the options for a stable distro on LXQt that's NOT Lubuntu? I want to test Wayland LXQt and Debian Stable does not have lxqt-wayland-session
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>>108827812
You've enabled the setting that clears history on exit.
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>>108828047
Arch/CachyOS
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>>108828054
>stable
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>>108828057
>caring about ABI stability
>on a desktop
>in 2026
?
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>>108828057
proton and flatpaks solve the stablity problem.
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>>108828047
non ironically Gentoo or nix, I'd guess
Maybe Fedora, wouldn't know, I hate using everything that's not Gentoo or FreeBSD
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>>108827614
Turn it into a server
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>>108826153
>Why would someone without any knowledge on filesystems pick btrfs over something like EXT4? Or F2FS even?
Snapshot / Restores (assuming CachyOS sets that up, which I think they do). Someone without any knowledge is more likely to "brick" their system and have to re-install it again. With filesystem snapshots you can avoid that, just boot into an old snapshot and roll it back.
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>>108822246
Could you add the systemd vs init link as well? I think its good to have that as a resource as current politics are currently making it more relevant for people who care about privacy. If it makes the OP too big just drop it in a copypasta bin
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>>108828275
no?
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>>108828279
Oh.... Why?
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>>108828047
>I want to test Wayland LXQt and Debian Stable does not have lxqt-wayland-session
Use backports then, it's not that hard
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>>108828275
post the link
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>a stop job is running for user manager for uid 1000 [30 seconds]
what do? it makes my shutdowns take... 1 minute when it should take 1 second. it doesn't tell me what the stop job is running for either.
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>>108828456
rtfm?
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>>108828456
just read the logs from last boot
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>>108828470
journalctl?
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>>108828472
well, yes. Read with sudo so you can see everything.
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>>108828047
I have Ubuntu with LXQt on one of my computers. I removed GNOME and installed LXQt. It works well.

You could try Fedora if you want. Of course Fedora has a shorter support time than Ubuntu LTS before you have to upgrade, and with Fedora you'll need RPM Fusion for certain codecs. Some people get on well with Fedora though.

>>108828299
It looks like there are no backports of LXQt for Debian 13

https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=trixie-backports&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=lxqt
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>>108828212
It must be nice having a non-laptop build host.
>>
I've been on Pop OS for a while and thinking of moving to Fedora for something a bit more current in terms of release and updates. Would anyone recommend it?
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>update
>FF won't show me the file picker
>impossible to save shit without wget
Had to create a config for the xdg portal, I assume it's some gtk4 fuckery, at least the lxqt file picker is nice
>>
>>108829224
Fedora is fine really. Especially if you do some cleaning up and disable unneeded services to reduce the memory footprint.
>>
New to Linux, I was trying to play a JRPG Falcom, and I was told to use an older version of Proton to avoid some lighting issues. I just wanted to know if this is a common occurrence in gaming, because I find it somewhat annoying.
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>>108829478
Usually, no. Wine and Proton try to be as backwards compatible as possible.
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>>108829478
Proton regressions are common because it's a development branch of wine focused on new features for new games. The vast majority of games >2 years old are good with release builds of regular wine.
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>>108829478
In some special cases yes but most of the time you should be fine with the latest GE-Proton and/or Proton 10/11.
You should always test things on your own, before relying on (probably retarded) 2nd hand information.
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I have a weird bug with Firefox on Linux and I wonder if anyone here has it.

Sometimes when I save an image from the internet in Firefox, the file seems to get corrupted. I think it's certain websites that result in corrupted images, but I don't know what those sites are doing differently. When I try to upload one of these corrupted images to 4chan, it says "upload failed". A workaround is to use curl to download the corrupted images.

Anyone else experience this?
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>>108829613
Are you not sure if it's just not .webp or .avif image which downloads as .jpg?
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>>108829613
I've seen this sometimes too. I think it has something to do with retards configuring Cloudflare protection for their static images. It's not a Firefox issue that's for sure.
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>>108829613
The server is probably serving you a webp image but sending it with the .jpg or .png extension. I assume Curl sends a header that says "I don't support webp" so you're getting the original image instead with the correct extension. I've seen this happen on wikia pages and some other websites.
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>>108829613
>>108829628
>>108829726
Had this happen a bunch. The wrong extension bit makes a lot of sense now thinking about it.
Whenever it would happen the original downloaded image would be like ~20kb in size.
Opening it in gimp the picture would be there, so I'd just resave it as a jpg and then the size would be around ~200kb.
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>>108829628
>>108829632
>>108829726
>>108829786
Okay yes the AVIF theory is correct. It's weird because when I view one of these images in Firefox, it says "JPEG Image" in the tab title. But when I right click and save the image, it names it as a ".jpg", but the file is actually an AVIF (as checked with the ImageMagick `identify` command). Maybe I will keep using curl to download these images, because then a JPEG does get downloaded.
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>>108829889
>Maybe I will keep using curl to download these images, because then a JPEG does get downloaded
That's one option, but seems rather annoying since you only find out after you've downloaded the broken image and then need to go back to/find the image again and get the URL, unless you're going to do it for every image.

Since you already have ImageMagick installed, it might be easier to use that to convert the file into a jpg through the command line.
>Image doesn't upload on 4chan?
>Convert
Done.
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>>108829889
A file extension is just a part of the file name. You can name files however you want, or even without an extension. An extension just serves as a quick and dirty way to tell the user and the software what type of a file you're dealing with.
So a server can send your browser an "image.jpeg" even if it's an avif file. Your average image viewer or browser will look at the file metadata/headers rather than the extension in most cases, so the image will show up just fine. But not all software does this, some software explicitly checks the extension and believes it to be true. So if there is a parsing mismatch it will tell you the file is corrupted. Which is also why uploading these files causes a failure, validators used by many websites will check the file extension.

>Maybe I will keep using curl to download these images
You can just get an extension that modifies your request headers and lies to the websites, telling them your browser doesn't support avif. This way servers will keep serving jpeg/png files just like they do with curl. So you can download them normally.
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>>108829994
Or not. Forgot about download history since I mostly use a private window to download crappy images.
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I'm installing Gentoo with MUSL+LLVM+ZFS+LUKS to see if it works and how it works.
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>>108829889
Some websites report wrong file format, eg. jpg but it's embedded as .webp.
It's not rocket science.
You don't need to use curl for anything.
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Is there a particular reason Fedora doesn't enable the full RPM Fusion repos when you enable third party repos? Fedora used to only enable a handful of Flathub repos with that option in the past but now enables the full Flathub, so why isn't this the case for RPM Fusion? Why limit it to only Steam and Nvidia drivers? Surely RPM Fusion is more trusted than Flathub and both contain non-free shit, so what's the reasoning?

I know that you just have to copy paste 1 line of code to enable it and you would still have to go to RPM Fusion's website to enable codecs and hardware acceleration regardless if this gets changed, but it annoys my autism a bit.
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>>108831392
why are you asking this question on an israeli propaganda forum instead of asking it in a place which fedora people frequent https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/
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>>108831454
I like you guys...
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Should I use GNOME or KDE Plasma for Bazzite?
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>>108831647
KDE
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>>108831668
Could you explain? I've heard of people hating GNOME, but I haven't seen their reasons why.
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>>108831696
nta but it isn't hard to point out
>more customizable with actually faster UI
>sane defaults
at least those are for me, there are anons that can list a myriad of reasons
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>>108831696
It's personal preference, KDE's design is that of a proper desktop/Windows-like experience while Gnome's is more of a laptop/tablet/mac os experience. Just try both if you're not sure which you prefer.
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>>108831778
The latter sounds retarded, wow.
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>>108831778
>a laptop/tablet/mac os experience
Not true.
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>not true
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>>108823467
>After setting everything up is it really that hard to use?
It can't break if you don't touch anything. But at some point if you botch an update or accidentally depclean your desktop environment (just Gentoo things haha) you will have to rebuild parts of it. Don't worry, you will learn.
But only install if you really love tweaking your computer.

>seems like the coolest
It is and I love it so much!
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>>108831821
They don't really use the Dock like Mac, I think you need 3rd party extensions to get anything close.

When you look at the GNOME devs, they're all queers too.
https://apps.gnome.org/en-GB/Console/
Look through all the apps, and you'll see lots of other they/them pronouns.
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>>108831696
It's just personal preference, but most people tend to prefer KDE.

>>108831805
You're right. GNOME is more like a mobile UI interface that's somewhat trying to adapt to desktop PCs.
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I guess a usecase was mandatory.
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>>108832113
Use case for knowing the time?
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>>108832150
>t. casino owner
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>>108832159
Use case for money being in your pocket instead of mine?
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>>108826944
Sounds like your usb drive may be broken/dying or didn't finish writing the iso. Ventoy has worked for every distro I've tried but it's probably overkill for installing one distro anyways. I once had similar issues mounting rootfs for something and I think it ended up being I unplugged it too early and it hadn't sync'd the drive fully yet.
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Is Linux generally a little wonky when it comes to Bluetooth or is it just me? My game controller sometimes has to reconnect like 10 times before it's actually connected. But it's a really odd issue that only happens very occasionally with no discernible reason, and when it is finally connected it works totally fine.
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>>108832218
Bluetooth is just wonky in general. Always buy games controllers that come with their own 2.4GHz dongle you can plug in to use instead of relying on shitty Bluetooth.
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>>108828456
>a stop job is running for user manager for uid 1000 [30 seconds]
Classic SystemDicks issue.

In /etc/systemd/system.conf
#DefaultTimeoutStartSec=90s
#DefaultTimeoutStopSec=90s
Uncomment and change these to something smaller AFTER you make sure whatever's holding up shutdown doesn't need all that time, it most likely doesn't but it's just to be safe.
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When it comes to code quality is GNOME better than KDE? I never hear anything like the Krashes meme towards GNOME. The complaints are usually about missing features.
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simple question

is there a usb webcam pick up software that can rotate 90degrees? guvview can't do this.
essentially trying to use surface pro with linux on it as a secondary monitor in portrait (documents for research) for my main pc
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>>108832321
GNOME still can't even recover from a crash. When GNOME crashes you lose every single thing open on your entire desktop.

When KDE Krashes it will restart itself and any well behaved applications that correctly re-connect to the $WAYLAND_DISPLAY keep working as if nothing happened.
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>>108832334
Maybe you could use v4l2loopback to make a virtual webcam and then do this with ffmpeg?

https://github.com/v4l2loopback/v4l2loopback
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>>108832339
>any well behaved applications that correctly re-connect to the $WAYLAND_DISPLAY keep working as if nothing happened.
Dolphin Window order gets fucked during a crash, browsers too
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>>108832218
I randomly have issues with bluetooth devices on Linux, Android and Windows. Bluetooth is just fucking shit.

>>108832321
The "krashes" meme is just a meme. Gnome also has crashes, but making fun of KDE is more interesting because you can say "krashes" instead of "crashes". Also KDE really was fucking unstable between 2014 and 2018.
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>>108831304
Sounds like a pain in the ass bro, however I admire your pioneer's spirit. Good luck and godspeed.
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>>108832380
Browsers are not well behaved. The Dolphin issue is probably a bug.

KDE actually did a lot of work to even make this possible at all and there needs to be work in GTK, etc, but the GNOME developers actively block that because they aren't interested in taking patches from KDE developers.

https://blog.davidedmundson.co.uk/blog/qt6_wayland_robustness/

Even with not everything being perfect the fact that KWin can do this at all is already leaps and bounds better than what GNOME can do though (which is crash, all GNOME can do is crash. It can't restart itself and if it could it wouldn't save anything).
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>>108832403
>The "krashes" meme is just a meme
I had more KDE crashes during my first month of using Linux (Fedora 42) than 10 years of using Windows 10.
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>>108823467
It's great but it is definitely more work than other distros. I installed it for the meme and I've been using it for 5 years, no reinstalls, you learn how to fix things on it.
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>>108832218
Bluetooth just fucking sucks, especially with cheaper devices. I once bought a pair of headphones and neither my phone nor my pc could even see it, only an old tablet worked for it.
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All of the commercial linux vendors choose GNOME, surely that's a testament to greater reliability?
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>>108832462
They literally chose it because Red Hat chose it and they wish they were also Red Hat.

Suse wants to be Red Hat
Canonical wants to be Red Hat
Oracle wants to be Red Hat
All of the Red Hat clones want to be Red Hat
etc
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I want to fuck Red Hat.
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>>108832490
They still have their own customers, and have to support the product they ship. Clearly it’s easier to maintain GNOME. None of them even offer dual systems anymore. Red Hat used to, but dropped KDE.
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>>108832552
I don't think Red Hat has ever offered a KDE desktop. It's in EPEL though and yes, you're right, they do these things because their customers want what Red Hat wants.

Outside of the enterprise things are a bit different though. Valve uses the KDE Plasma desktop on their hardware for desktop mode, KWin is some cars (you wouldn't know but it's there, if that's not an endorsement of its reliability I don't know what is).

It's only boring corpo desktops that chose GNOME and they probably didn't even make that chose per se but just use it because it's the default and they don't care. It's like vanilla ice cream. Nothing says "disinterested" like GNOME.
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>>108832586
>I don't think Red Hat has ever offered a KDE desktop.

7.6 release notes:
>KDE has been deprecated

>KDE Plasma Workspaces (KDE), which has been provided as an alternative to the default GNOME desktop environment has been deprecated. A future major release of Red Hat Enterprise Linux will no longer support using KDE instead of the default GNOME desktop environment.
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>update arch
>bluetooth dies
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>>108832663
>has been provided as an alternative
So never the default choice then. I don't think they were ever committed it as a desktop.
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>>108832664
Probably the same update that killed Bluetooth on Fedora recently. It's almost like kernel bugs are nothing to do with your operating system (which just happens to run on top of Linux).
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>>108832692
Yeah. It's a problem with the kernel 7.0.7.
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>>108832692
This is why good operating systems don't just randomly bump kernel versions before they know which bugs get introduced.
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>>108832682
It doesn’t matter that it wasn’t default (something has to be), they still supported it, and then dropped it. Why? Probably because it was unreliable and not worth their time fixing. Much better to spend QA budgets elsewhere.

Moving something to ‘community support’ is basically a polite ‘fuck you.’
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>>108832692
probably the same update that's causing x11 to leak connections on some machines somehow
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Why does the terminal use ctrl shift c/v by default instead of ctrl c/v? How is it not super annoying to have 2 different commands to copy/paste? I changed the shortcut, but do people unironically just get used to doing it differently when using the terminal?
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>>108832723
It probably was unreliable given it was severely out-of-date. That does tend to be the case. Nowadays I think they actually support GNOME and by supporting it I mean backporting newer releases to it, something they never did for KDE.
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>>108832733
Because ctrl+c is the SIGINT combo.
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>>108832733
Because Ctrl+C send SIGINT to processes. You'd have to remap that to something else in order to use it for copying.

There are actually multiple ways to copy/paste text though. You can actually highlight the text you want to copy and then just paste it with Shift+Insert.
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If I’m running Fedora44 but wish to install some proprietary software that has been ‘certified’ for Red Hat, what’s ‘modern’ solution? Something like toolbox? I could run a VM, but I’d prefer something lighter weight.
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>>108832742
>>108832751
I've never really had to use that command, I just close the window if I ever have to interrupt a process. However I use copy/paste daily. Surely it's way more annoying to have the copy/paste shortcut remapped than SIGINT? Wouldn't the vast majority of users get used to ctrl c/v first before ever touching the console and having to use SIGINT?

Seems insane to me that something as fundamental like ctrl c/v would be changed before anything else. I'm guessing it's mostly a legacy thing.
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>>108832768
Something like Toolbox or Distrobox, yes.
>>108832770
If you do actual work in the terminal then you use SIGINT as a mechanism to interrupt long-running processes A LOT. It'd be far too annoying for most people to have to close the window and open another one each time.
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>>108832770
control + c/v came from Windows, it was supported by linux because it became habit for so many people. Contrast that to what you’d do in Emacs or Vim.

Without SIGINT, I wouldn’t have been able to complete 1st year computer science, where the cause of a long (infinite) running program was of course myself.
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>>108832777
>If you do actual work in the terminal then you use SIGINT A LOT
Naturally, but surely another hot key would be a better choice than changing the established ctrl c/v? Like the absolute vast majority of people that start using the terminal would have been used to ctrl c/v before being used to ctrl + c for SIGINT? I just can't wrap my head around how anyone could just get used to having to do ctrl shift instead of just ctrl whenever they're in the terminal but also go back to just ctrl for every other thing they use. Seems like pure insanity to me.

It's just pure schizo to have to constantly change your muscle memory to use a different hot key. How the fuck does it even work when you try to copy something from a browser? How do you not go crazy having to use the different hot keys to do the same thing within the span of seconds?
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>>108832824
>Like the absolute vast majority of people that start using the terminal would have been used to ctrl c/v before being used to ctrl + c for SIGINT?
That's because you're used to a GUI. You need to remember the terminal is an emulator for a literal terminal. This shit was around before copying and pasting in a Word processor was even a thing.
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>>108832733
XTerm would use drag to copy and Shift + Insert key to paste. that's a old way
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>>108832819
>control + c/v came from Windows, it was supported by linux because it became habit for so many people. Contrast that to what you’d do in Emacs or Vim.
Which just strengthens the argument to make it the default, no?
>Without SIGINT, I wouldn’t have been able to complete 1st year computer science
I'm not arguing against there not being a shortcut for it, just that the default doesn't make sense. Surely the default should be what the vast majority are used to rather than to cater to some old legacy?

So like do you just not mind having to constantly use different shortcuts to do copy/paste depending on if you're in the terminal or a browser/file browser/etc?

I personally can't imagine not having either the terminal to be ctrl c/v or changing everything else to be ctrl shift c/v.
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>>108832852
Dude I remember I did that think before too. Did you open your dev mode on your browser when you meant to copy things?
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>>108832852
A lot of the time you don't even need shortcuts depending on what you're trying to do.

Want to copy a commands outputs?
Pipe it to xclip or wl-copy
Want to paste the clipboard to use it as input?
Pipe from xclip or wl-paste
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>>108832905
This was basically how people did it back in the day too by the way only instead of piping to a program like xclip or wl-copy/wl-paste they'd pipe to a text file and perform transformations on it that way, etc.
>Clipboard is a relatively modern invention
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>>108832905
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>>108832882
>Did you open your dev mode on your browser when you meant to copy things?
Kek, I had to check what ctrl shift c actually did on a browser after reading that. But no, that was literally something I changed on day 1 of installing Linux. I was trying to copy paste a bunch of commands when I first installed Fedora with ctrl c/v but finding out that it wasn't working. So I tried to figure out why and discovered the absolute retardation that is ctrl shift so I immediately changed it to just ctrl.
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>>108832938
>But no, that was literally something I changed on day 1 of installing Linux.
That acts like F12 on your browser basically. aaaaaand yeah I understand all. And what do you use for SIGINT? Ctrl + Shift + C maybe? lol
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>>108832980
>That acts like F12
Yeah, I tried it out.
>And what do you use for SIGINT?
I just close the window. I've used Linux for 1 year, I had to interrupt something like maybe 5 times. So I don't really have to bind it to anything, pretty sure I didn't assign a shortcut.
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>>108833017
>I just close the window.
XD bro that's not how it works
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>>108833047
It interrupts the process though? You literally get a pop up saying it will stop it if you close the window?
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>>108833068
jerking with your dick makes you feel orgasm, and your asshole is fully capable for that too.
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>>108833093
You ougtha know, sweetie
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>>108828304
>https://nosystemd.org
Also anything in here that you haven't added, if you think its too schizo or offputting just put a pastabin "archive" link and just throw them in there.
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>>108822246
>so used to using winkey+shift+s at work that I do it on my home linux system now to screenshot
Sigh... I guess I should learn the keybinding to doing screenshots before looking into how to change it.
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guys... systemd gonna get ya

haha
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>>108833347
You're obviously.... Down with the system(d)!
Also I'm not the dude that made the alternate OP, but I do think that some of the links in there are useful.
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Hello guys, does anyone else have an issue where file picker in kde sometimes doesn't load a file? I already set the max file size to show thumbnails to something really high. I remember this not being an issue before. Also the thumbnails are not aligned
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>>108833396
I don'e use KDE but check the details of the file, it might be named/called .jpg but is it actually a .jpg?
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>>108833396
>>108833413
If an image file's extension is mislabeled Dolphin/KDE doesn't generate a thumbnail for me either. If you change it to the proper extension then it gets fixed.
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Speaking of file extensions, why does it even matter what they're labelled as? Like why does it matter if it has .jpg or .png, the system knows what it is and won't they be treated the same when opened with an image viewer? Other than having the correct extension visually displayed, does it make a difference?
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>>108833488
Because the system knows but the file manager doesn't, I don't know enough about file managers but if I had to guess they won't allow file manager to have deeper shell access for security reasons.
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>>108833413
>>108833461
>>108833488
>>108833498
hello niggas, the files are indeed jpgs, and I originally thought they didn't load in folders with large number of images, but this small folder also doesn't load some images. However, if I fiddle with the zoom or refresh a bunch of times they sometimes load
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>>108833529
>However, if I fiddle with the zoom or refresh a bunch of times they sometimes load
That's just a corrupt thumbnail cache or the tool that generates the thumbnail sometimes acting up.
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>>108832719
It was for an urgent security fix so why would they break Bluetooth? It happens though I guess.

For what it's worth I got no issues on 7.0.8-1-cachyos so looks like they fixed it fast.
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>>108833590
>Arch
>why did something break when it updated?
Did you do any research on what Arch or Rolling Releases where before you installed by any chance?
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>>108833611
I'm not them. I'm well aware what it is. I even compiled this kernel before it hit the repos since it was for yet another important fix. It's possible Cachy may have backported some Bluetooth fix but it didn't break for me like others is all I'm saying.
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>>108833622
Oh, well the kernel works in mysterious ways. Also, people here act like its so easy to update a distro or kernel these days, the Linux kernel alone has more than 4 million lines of individual code in it, a lot of it not touched for years, others have multiple devs that work on a small part of a while, with other devs whose sole purpose is to make sure that the kernel can still talk to other parts of itself without breaking. It's an incredibly crazy and complex piece of software which is why you get all these crazy exploits and such. Monolithic OS development is hard, which is why Windows does a Hybrid architecture and even that has trade offs with offloading to drivers and driver compatibility and such.
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>>108833644
Microsoft's approach to hardware support is basically "We don 't do it".

The fact that you can install Linux and most of your hardware just works and you didn't have to install any drivers anywhere to get it to work (they're all included with Linux) is amazing.
It shouldn't work but it does.
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So I remember installing Perf a long time ago to check why a program was acting up. I want to remove the package because I have no need for it anymore. But there's also another package called python3-perf which I assume is useless and can also be removed now, am I wrong? dnf remove shows not conflicts or dependencies.
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>>108833659
I have no idea what dnf does, but you can google "how to check package dependencies in [insert distro here]" and run the command and it will tell you what depends on it, you can also run a reverse dependency check to see what it depends on if nothing depends on it.
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How come there are so many updates that require restarts recently? I switched from Windows to avoid them, but second day in a row that I need to restart Ubuntu for some system update.
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I'm trying to add wine staging repo and AI isn't helping me so I have to ask here
> https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/ubuntu noble InRelease The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 76F1A20FF987672F
How can I fix this?
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I have the following e-waste laptop alongside a Windows PC for homosexual software that brings money like 3DSMax, CorelDraw and the ocassional Valorant match, suggest me something more powerful that has good compatibility with Troonix. Either Debian or Void i'm fine with it.
Machine:
Type: Laptop System: LENOVO product: 81ST v: Lenovo IdeaPad S145-14AST
serial: <superuser required>
Mobo: LENOVO model: LNVNB161216 v: SDK0J40679WIN
serial: <superuser required> Firmware: UEFI vendor: LENOVO v: AYCN21WW
date: 12/27/2019
Battery:
ID-1: BAT0 charge: 13 Wh (84.5%) condition: 15.4/30 Wh (51.3%)
CPU:
Info: dual core AMD A9-9425 RADEON R5 5 COMPUTE CORES 2C+3G [MCP]
speed (MHz): avg: 3693 min/max: 1400/3100
Graphics:
Device-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Stoney [Radeon R2/R3/R4/R5
Graphics] driver: amdgpu v: kernel
Device-2: Bison Integrated Camera driver: uvcvideo type: USB
Display: wayland server: Xwayland v: 24.1.11 compositor: kwin_wayland
driver: gpu: amdgpu resolution: 1366x768~60Hz
API: OpenGL v: 4.5 vendor: amd mesa v: 25.3.6 renderer: AMD Radeon R5
Graphics (radeonsi stoney ACO DRM 3.64 7.0.4-100.fc43.x86_64)
Info: Tools: api: clinfo, eglinfo, glxinfo, vulkaninfo
de: kscreen-console,kscreen-doctor wl: wayland-info x11: xdriinfo,
xdpyinfo, xprop, xrandr
Audio:
Device-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Stoney HDMI/DP Audio
driver: snd_hda_intel
Device-2: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 15h Audio
driver: snd_hda_intel
API: ALSA v: k7.0.4-100.fc43.x86_64 status: kernel-api
Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.4.11 status: active
Network:
Device-1: Qualcomm Atheros QCA9377 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter
driver: ath10k_pci
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>>108834256
Forgot to mention, mini PC or laptop i'm fine with either of them, budget is around 500$
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>>108833488
For the OS is worthless, they read the file's header (first bytes) to distinguish each kind of fike. Is the GUI toolkit whom has to surrogate that task to the lower level APIs 90% of the time you don't want any random user application to use cause they are unlikely to use them in a perfomant and secure way, their job is to be a commodity for the user and routing tasks to more appropriate software whenever pertinent, that's why file managers often just render a placeholder based on the file's extension. Is better to make the janitor retarded than let them get uppity with shit completely out of their business. I want 7zip to tell me my archive is corrupt/has wrong extension cause is specialized for the task, not Dolphin whom can barely support putting an icon on them.
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>>108832552
Is easier to maintain Gnome because Red Hat tard handles the worst part of the GTK tribe men into doing their jobs and they just have to grab and compile.
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>>108833915
Sounds like you forgot to add the GPG key, but are you planning on using plain wine? You could just install the wine package from your distro's repo (for the required libraries) and use proton with lutris, steam, umu, etc
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DaVinci Resolve is working well on a 9070 XT but I noticed it's only using about 25% of the GPU when rendering. Will it go up to 100% if I install the AMD proprietary drivers?
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>>108834318
This is really what is needed. Left to their own devices, tards will just run amok.
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>>108834421
Why do you ask if you don't understand the technical implications of your work in the first place?
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>>108834260
Minimum is 6 cores 12 threads these days.
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>>108834511
>Why do you ask if you don't understand
That's literally the point of a (non-rhetorical) question????????????????
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>>108834338
I apparently need wine staging specifically because I want to install yabridge
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>>108834533
Confirmed.
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>>108832410
Well it boots and works, it seems. My only mistake was that MUSL does not support gethostid (it always returns 0), so ZFS whines at boot that hostid not found, but dracut uses --force flag so it still imports the root zpool and it works out.
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>>108835062
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Jesus, this is really dragging. already twice as long as F43-F44 on my laptop but not even at 50% yet.
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>>108835062
>>108835112
This is ASMR to me lol
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>>108832218
Never had any issue with my 2 bluetooths devices on linux
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>>108832664
I lost laptop speakers with the 7.x kernel but this is why I keep older kernels.
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>>108832433
I haven't had a KDE crash since 2019.

>>108832733
You can customize this in any non-shit terminal.

>>108833488
It's faster to just trust the extension and try to load it and fail than to parse through the file to figure out what type it actually is.
Also not all file types have unique header data or header data at all. So the only way to load those without an extension would be to iterate through all file types and try to load it as one of those, which is retarded and slow.
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>>108834260
Just look for old Ryzen laptops. For that price (in the UK, at CEX, but I bet you can find decent stuff in the US too) I got my HP Elitebook 6 core 12 threads like >>108834516 said, 32 GB of RAM (more than I'll ever know what to do with) and 1 TB of NVME storage.

No dedicated GPU and the AMD graphics are based on Vega still but for YouTube and browsing and some very light gaming it is completely fine. I'm really happy with it.
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>>108832733
>>108832824
>>108832852
Like the others have said, if you spend any time at all doing work in a terminal, you are used to using Ctrl+C to end a process

I have no problem at all with using Shift+Ctrl+C/Shift+Ctrl+V for copy/paste in a terminal. I became used to that a long time ago.
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>>108835425
>if you spend any time at all doing work in a terminal, you are used to using Ctrl+C to end a process
I work in the terminal all the time and I remapped it to Ctrl+Shift+C to end the process and Ctrl+C/Ctrl+V to copy paste.
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>>108835451
I just adapted to the fact that Ctrl combinations are different in the terminal. E.g. Ctrl+A doesn't select all, it puts the cursor at the beginning of the line. Ctrl+U doesn't underline, it deletes everything before the cursor.
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>>108835467
And Ctrl+P doesn't print it moves the command / selection back one. Yes, the command line is very much different to every other graphical environment and we should treat it as such.
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>>108832852
CTRL shortcuts are program specific so using CTRL for system shortcuts like copy or paste is a bad idea. CTRL+c might do 5 different things in 5 different programs, GUI or not. If you want to use program agnostic shortcuts you use super (Windows key)+ or CTRL+modifier+ That's the main reason the default has a shift included.
This applies to much more than just the terminal. Windows is actually the odd one out. Mac uses super+C/v for copy and paste.
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>>108835473
>the command line is very much different to every other graphical environment and we should treat it as such
no it's not and no we shouldn't
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>>108835621
Sounds like you'd be better off using a different interface then. What you want isn't a VT emulator that's for sure.
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>>108835628
>NOOOOOOO
>you can't prefer different (universal) keyboard shortcuts!
>use something else!
fuck off
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>>108831304
So, lots of initramfs trickeries. What route are you going to take regarding initramfs generation?
>>108832218
The 7.0 kernel branch is at 7.0.8 so it's really new. And it's typical for new kernel branches to have broken Bluetooth, have no idea why.
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>>108835852
Sure you can prefer it. Just like some people prefer eating shit rather than being normal. If you want to be a freak, go for it.
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>>108835852
nta, but I have to ask, why are you using linux if you prefer gui?
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>>108836028
You don't need to be autistic to use Linux
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Is openbox any good? It's an option in the CachyOS installer and it looks cool there but how is it in day-to-day use?
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>>108836170
It's a floating window manager. Uses barely any juice, so great if your PC is old.
LXQt uses it as its WM backend.
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>>108836170
It's good for minimalistic devices which need the memory usage to be under 250MB, but on a desktop it's shit. If you're not on a PC from 2004 you should just use gnome or plasma.
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What are the downsides to using Bazzite vs Fedora for your main PC? I only really do gaming or web browsing. Does the OS being immutable cause any frustrations or issues?
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>>108836426
The only downside is that everything outside your /home is untouchable so you need to rely on Flatpak/Homebrew for your programs, plus the update images are gigabytes in size every time because it's a full reinstall of the OS pretty much with /home being singled out.
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>>108836426
What other Anon said and also if you have to change anything outside your home directory, say because you have marginally supported hardware or you want to use cdemu for games, it's a huge pita.
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>>108836490
That doesn't sound like much of an issue? I'm not data-limited, and that kind of setup makes it sound like, if you do actually need to tweak a setting, you need to do it in the way the OS wants you to. After spending forever trying to figure out which layer I needed to edit network settings on in Ubuntu (NetworkManager kept overriding or overwriting my attempts at fixes), that actually sounds pretty ideal. Or am I interpreting things wrong?
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>>108836614
It's basically set up in such a way that you technically don't really need to expect that shit will go wrong because everything is set up to just werk at the system level.
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Will my Timeshift backup keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on? I set up like 2 weekly backups and the folder just keeps growing in size.
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>>108832719
like macOS?
like windows?

lmao
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>>108836627
That sounds great, honestly. I've never used Linux on my main system, and I'd rather start with something more designed to "just work", even if it comes at the expense of some flexibility. Worst case is that I could just switch distros later if I don't like how stiff it is, as opposed to getting frustrated with instability over accidentally fucking something up when I try to edit a config file somewhere.
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>>108836642
As long as you set it to keep tons of snapshots before deleting them to save space. You can set how much space you want the snapshots to take overall.

>>108836646
It's why distros like Bazzite are recommended to new users.
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Debian 12 and 13 point releases out. Upgrade time.
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QRD: XFCE or MATE?
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>>108837165
KDE
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>>108822300
>service file
>central folder
>links

sounds more complicated and stupid than just something like this (enabling managing $HOME with normal git operations)
https://www.ackama.com/articles/the-best-way-to-store-your-dotfiles-a-bare-git-repository-explained/
https://www.atlassian.com/git/tutorials/dotfiles
https://racedorsey.com/posts/2025/bare-git-repo-dotfiles/
etc
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>>108837165
icewm
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>>108837165
Xfce. MATE is dead. Ubuntu MATE didn't even get an LTS release this year because the MATE developer lost interest.
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Gnome fucking sucks. It feels like I'm using an iPad.
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Why does the KDE file picker shit the bed when loading big folders? There's input lag on top of actual fucking loading lag because you can see the folder being populated in real time. I got a pretty big Documents folder (6000+ files) from my Windows install and back on Windows the file picker had no issues with big folders like this. It's funny too because Dolphin doesn't really have an issue with big folders; it's just the KDE file picker.
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>>108837165
LXQt of course
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>>108837284
I'm pretty sure the file picker is still synchronous but Dolphin had a huge re-work recently to be asynchronous so that the loading of the files/folders is separate from the UI.

The KDE file picker can still stall sometimes. They know about this though and will probably fix it eventually just like they did for Dolphin.
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I'm confused. Reading about it, Dolphin seems like it's the file manager for KDE, akin to Explorer for Windows. So then what's the KDE file picker? It sounds like functionality that's specifically delegated to Dolphin.
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>>108837443
It's something that looks similar to Dolphin but isn't actually Dolphin. The KDE file picker doesn't even have a search bar while the Windows file picker and Dolphin do.
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>>108837456
Ohh, so is Dolphin actually a separate program from KDE? What I read made it sound like Dolphin was a default, integrated part of it. So the KDE File Picker is what you have to use if you don't want to install anything extra at all? It seems silly to not use Dolphin, then. If you're running a desktop environment at all, you're already running extra software just for convenience anyway.
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>>108837484
Yes, it's a separate program. You can uninstall Dolphin entirely and use a different file manager and still the file picker will function.

This is also true on GNOME as well, they don't use "Files" (Nautilus) for their file picker. A file picker is similar to a file manager but not the same thing.
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>>108837284
In my experience it seems to be related to generating thumbnail previews. Even the stuff that arent strictly images like text files will still get a thumbnail generated for them.
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>>108837182
I find it easier to keep dotfiles somewhere like .local/src/dotfiles and using stow to handle symlinking everything.
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>>108837443
No, unlike on Windows where it just wraps explorer around a dialog to pick files, they're separate widgets, mainly because GTK and Qt are cross platform toolkits, they're supposed to at least somewhat work on many different OSes, and it was easier 20 years ago to write a generic component than having OS specific code for every one. Ultimately they tried to improve this with the XDG portals system (allowing you to use multiple file picker implementations)
but so far is only a thing on Linux.
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>>108836426
>Does the OS being immutable cause any frustrations or issues?
It does whenever you want to install a system package instead of having to rely on secondary or tertiary package managers like flatpak.
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>>108837687
I'm pretty sure you can still overlay RPMs on Bazzite, although often it's better to use Flatpak or a container, etc, instead (less friction / less likely to break something).
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>>108828456
Check what systemd user services you have running as your user.
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>>108828047
lxqt-wayland-session is just a bunch of shell scripts and desktop files you can just grab the .deb file from sid and install that without causing any conflicts. Or you can just manually extract it yourself
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>>108837698
Overlays using rpm-ostree are slow as shit and take forever.
Sometimes the flatpak version of a program just doesn't work properly compared to the native version. They also take up less space.
I use containers for dev and compiling stuff that's about it. I have the devel packages installed on my base system for stuff i compile and use regularly like st and dmenu.
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What program should i be using for backups? So far all i do is just run an rsync command to external drives and stuff. Also, what filesystem to use on external drives or is ext4 fine?
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>>108837743
If your root filesystem is BTRFS then use BTRFS for your backups too since you can take advantage of incremental send/receive to speed up your backups and restores.

If your root filesystem isn't BTRFS then pick BTRFS again anyway because it's the only filesystem that checksums both metadata and data (you would need dm-integrity with ext4: https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v6.1//admin-guide/device-mapper/dm-integrity.html) thus making sure your backups don't succumb to bitrot and if they do then you know about it.
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>>108837743
borg, restic, or <btrfs|zfs> send. Those are compressed, deduplicating, integrity tracking formats.
>what filesystem
xfs for borg or restic, or the same format as the host filesystem if you're using zfs or btrfs. ext4 format overhead makes it suboptimal for just backups.
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Dogshit
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>>108822505
Lenovo is trash
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>>108837699
T. Pottering
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Bloated trash
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>>108822246
Is there some kind of convenient tool i can use to download playlists/albums from youtube music(quality is fine for me) directly to my PC?
I tried using FFMPEG but it was actually a bit of a pain in the ass to grab all the metadata for each track accurately(and the image)
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>>108838224
yt-dlp -x --add-metadata --embed-thumbnail --write-thumbnail --write-info-json
This will write the metadata to a json file and also embed it into the file itself. It will also grab the thumbnail and download it to disk and also embed into the file if possible
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>>108838224
Gentoo is bloat like RMS belly
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Why is it cuck license
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I feel bad for stinkpad users
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>>108825110
Don't try it
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>>108838320
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>>108838320
The way it was characterized politically, you had copyright, which is what the big companies use to lock everything up; you had copyleft, which is free software's way of making sure they can't lock it up; and then Berkeley had what we called ‘copycenter’, which is ‘take it down to the copy center and make as many copies as you want.’
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>>108826317
Same
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>>108838361
Does it have systemd
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>>108838361
Does it have systemd?
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>>108838361
>Origin: Canada
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>>108838386
>>108838391
No, because Systemd isn't portable by design. The BSD's couldn't even if they wanted. Systemd only just got Musl libc support and even that's with a big fat experimental warning and the caveat that the Red Hat overlords may take it away if maintaining it is too cumbersome, never mind supporting non-Linux systems.
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>>108836426
Bazzite:
>pre-installs codecs and proprietary drivers
>pre-installs more useful software by default, especially for gamers
>pre-installs a proper version of Steam
>pre-installs Waydroid and has a convenient script to set it up
>does NOT ship with Fedora's shitty Flatpak repository and only uses Flathub by default
>keeps the version of mesa (Intel/AMD graphics library) more up to date than Fedora
>uses the OGC Linux kernel, which has some gaming-related optimizations
>has the SteamOS controller daemon
>uses a better update tool which updates pretty much everything and not just packages from your system package manager
Not saying you can't do all of this yourself and set up Fedora to behave like it, but as a new user or lazy user it's definitely better to just use Bazzite.
Universal Blue distros in general are basically highly improved versions of Fedora. I wouldn't use Fedora Kinoite/Silverblue over those just like I wouldn't use Arch over Endeavor or CachyOS.

As others have mentioned, Bazzite is also Atomic. Fedora's Atomic distros (Kinoite/Silverblue) aren't the default editions yet and probably won't be for another 3-6 years. So Fedora Workstation/KDE are slightly different when it comes to how updating the OS and installing packages work.
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>>108838463
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>>108838416
Thanks for all this detail! I wish there was a way to be all "don't insult me by installing nvidia dogshit", but eh.
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>>108837708
I'm not sure if the version of LXQt in Debian stable will work properly with Wayland. It might do because it's LXQt 2.1.0 which should apparently support Wayland. But maybe things would fuck up, I dunno. If someone really wants LXQt with Wayland then they could always install a distro other than Debian for now. Even the most recent two releases of Ubuntu have lxqt-wayland-session.



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