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>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE.
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases.
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.
Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 217, Flux Pro, Y40, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, Vision (Compact), Antec C8
AVOID: NXZT, 'Silent' cases, fanless cases, Corsair 6500

>CPU
Budget: 9600X, 7600X, 7500F
Gaming: AMD X3D
Workstation: 9950X, 9900X
AVOID Shittel

>COOLER
AIO: Best Value: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Premium: Lian Li GA II Lite, LCD: TRYX Panorama
Double towers: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, Noctua NH-D15 G2

>MOTHERBOARD
Avoid ASRock AM5 boards, CPU degradation issues still reported.

>RAM
Gaming: DDR5 2x16GB 6000CL30
Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB

>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: NM790
Mid range: SN7100
Premium: SN850X
Flagship: SN8100

>GPU
1080p: RX 9060 XT 16GB, Poorfag Esports Gaming: Used GPU between $100-$250
1440p: RX 9070 XT, RX 9070, Budget: RX 9060 XT 16GB
4K: RX 9070 XT
Workstation: Radeon AI PRO R9700, CUDA Mandatory: Used RTX 4090 or RTX 3090 ti
AVOID RTX 50 Series: False advertising "5070=4090 performance!!", unsafe power connector, broken drivers, overpriced compared to RDNA 4 in most regions, threatening reviewers, manipulating and faking reviews, destroying game art direction with AI slop etc.
ALWAYS pair AMD GPUs with AMD CPUs for SAM https://imgur.com/a/6XSNJ9b

>PSU
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
https://pcmonitors.info/

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Mid range: Arctic P12/P14 (Max) (5-pack)
High end: Noctua NF-A12x25, Noctua NF-A14x25 G2

Prev: >>108828618
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what actually hardcore overclocking looks like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjyJgd0lliE
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How do I force PCIe 5.0 on my motherboard for the gpu? My 9060 XT is stuck running at 3.0 for some reason.
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>>108837258
Damn, I am getting 4.1 fsr? Is there any AAA slop worth even playing?
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>>108837338
New metro game coming out later this year and gta 6
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>>108837338
crimson desert is great once you get past the boring rpg-setups that they all have. A game to sink yourself into, if they put more effort into opening up the mod scene it'd be the next skyrim, but i think they wanna go the dlc route.
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>>108837338
>MacOS
Freak
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>>108837258
>Avoid ASRock
AHAHAHAHAHA still true since 2008

Zotac and ASRock make Gigabyte look good by comparison and Gigabyte makes MSI look good.
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>>108837446
I own msi x870e mag tomahawk and it's a great board
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>>108837335
what motherboard
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>>108837420
lmao you have no right to call anyone a freak
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>>108837513
Sorry should have included that lol. Asus tuf gaming b850 plus wifi
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>>108837397
It's single player version of black desert online, I'd play the real thing if I cared about that, not a real AAAA vidya.
>>108837368
Metro could be comfy
>>108837420
MacOS is unix that just works, I'd use linux, but the DE situation is just sad.
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>>108837258
Second part of OP

Do not trust the Intards or Nvidiot shills that brigade and spam these threads. Report and filter their posts.


Think for yourself. Only trust advice from all AMD PC owners.

>An all AMD PC for every use case and budget!

>News & Rumors
https://github.com/Agustinm28/Optiscaler-Client
New Optiscaler Client can auto install the latest FSR 4 to any game for RDNA 4/3/2
Memory prices have dropped some

>Price tracking
RAM: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ram/ram-price-index-2026-lowest-price-on-ddr5-and-ddr4-memory-of-all-capacities
SSD: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ssds/ssd-price-tracking-2026-lowest-price-on-every-m-2-ssd
GPU: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/lowest-gpu-prices-tracking

>GPU hierarchy 2026
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Other helpful Links
Mobomaps: https://mobomaps.com/
A PC build guide: https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PC
German autism: https://www.igorslab.de/en/
Alternate to pcpartpicker: https://pangoly.com/en/pc-builder
>>
considering an upgrade for smoother 1440p experience.

current setup:

7700K OC'd
Z270
32gb ddr4 3600
6650xt
27" aorus ips

considering:
7600x3d
B550m
ddr4 carry over
9060 XT
27" oled alienware (AW2726DM)

worth it? should i continue waiting or act before prices get even worse?
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>>108837757
>7600x3d
>ddr4 carry over
not gonna work
get a 14600K
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>>108837757
>ddr4 carry over
lol
Pic is what you really want
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>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8

>CPU
Gaming: 250K, 14600K, 9/7600X, 7/9800X3D
-Budget: 225F, 7500F, 12600K
Workstation: 270K

*Avoid Ascrock motherboards on AM5
*New sockets likely next year
*On Raptor Lake microcode updates are mandatory, avoid second-hand

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Lian Li Galahad II Lite, Corsair Nautilus RS, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

TIM: MX-6, MX-7, Duronaut, *PTM 7950, Kryosheet
*Most listings online are not actually 7950

>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AM5), 6400CL32 (LGA 1700)
Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget.), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)

>SSD (Keep firmware updated)
Budget: SN7100, NM790
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU
Budget: Arc B580, 9060xt, 5060
-Used: 2080, 2080ti
*8gb has become a major constraint even at 1080p
Midrange: 5070, 9070
-Used: 3080, 3080ti
4k : 5070ti, 9070xt
-5090

>PSU
Buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
1440p: 27" 165/180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), ASUS XG27AQWMG (WOLED)
4K: KTC M27P6 (miniLED)

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)
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Think for yourself. Do not blindly trust advice given here.

>A /pcbg/ for every use case and budget!

>Price tracking
RAM: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ram/ram-price-index-2026-lowest-price-on-ddr5-and-ddr4-memory-of-all-capacities
SSD: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ssds/ssd-price-tracking-2026-lowest-price-on-every-m-2-ssd
GPU: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/lowest-gpu-prices-tracking

>GPU hierarchy 2026
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Other helpful Links
Mobomaps: https://mobomaps.com/
A PC build guide: https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PC
German autism: https://www.igorslab.de/en/
Alternate to pcpartpicker: https://pangoly.com/en/pc-builder
>>
>>108837757
Don't listen to these shills
>108837766
>108837771
You can use ddr4 with raptor lake but what intard jeets won't tell you is that you lose a bunch of the processors performance and with it and have stuttering and shit since really they need ddr5. Just deal hunt on FB marketplace for a used DDR5 kit and go AM5
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>>108837803
This guy is lying by the way
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>>108837803
still waiting
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/108814147/#108815027
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>>108837821
Cope
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Why the price increase? When will it go down?
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Has this thread discussed pic related yet?
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when will nicotroon stop getting mogged by raptorgods? it's looking rough at this point
not even HUB steve can save him
>>108837928
no but we should probably launch into a 100+ post flamewar right now
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>>108837854
You cope
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>>108837685
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>>108837949
How am I mogged by your dog slow fire hazard that pulls 200 watts to still be over 30% slower than my cpu? Keep running cinebench and other meaningless synthetics over and over to cope while I enjoy gaming with perfect frametimes on my PC.
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>>108838017
you still haven't posted any numbers from your kawaii all-AMD PC
let's see those perfect frametimes
we're waiting
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I don't know much about gaming monitors.
Is the AOC Q27G4ZR a good 1440p 244hz monitor?
>https://www.aoc.com/ee/gaming/monitors/q27g4zr
I can get one on a 37% discount, $235/€202 right now. Original price is $375/€322.
Is that decent? Are there any monitors that are no-brainers and much better for a similar price?
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>>108838103
If I were you, I would get one of those high resolution monitors that can switch resolution. 5k for movies, and 2k 120hz for gaming.
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>>108838103
>not VA-Miniled
Useless, basically cave man monitor
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>>108838103
looks ok on first glance other than the speakers likely being garbage
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>>108838122
Sounds fancy, but I very rarely watch movies or tv shows. Like 8 movies a year. And when I do, I watch them on my TV. Thats cool though, didn't know that was a thing.

>>108838132
>Narrower viewing angles
>Ghosting
Idk man

>>108838158
Thank you. The speakers are a non-issue, never going to be used.
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>>108838188
>5k Typically ~218 PPI on a 27" monitor
>2k Typically ~109 PPI on a 27" monitor

Even if you don't watch movies, everything will render nicer, from fonts to picture. It's just better, but up to you.
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>>108838122
Isn't this already twice the price of what anon was looking for? I think Pulsar monitors are <700 here now if you want to spend royal on an IPS though 5k/2k doesn't sound too bad either but this KTC one doesn't seem to be """gaming""" focused if this is important
>>
I want lots of RAM (128GB+). Not for AI, just for VMs and general use. Obviously this is a very bad time to want such a thing.
I noticed DDR4 RDIMMs are a lot cheaper than normal ones. The CPUs that accept those (Xeon E, Threadripper) are relatively cheap too, but the motherboards are expensive and I assume the coolers are too.
Anyone already run the numbers and worked out whether it makes sense to go for an older server/workstation build to take advantage of the cheap RAM?
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WHY DOES SAM ALTMAN HATE MY COMPUTER
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>>108838122
buy the asus 5k 180hz one
500€ for 60hz kek

>>108838103
philips had a 260hz for cheaper
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>>108837928
>not even 5090 with dlssq can do high refresh rate gaming
Recent AAA slop at 4k, ig.
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>my 850W psu when I turn on path tracing with my 5090
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>>108837258
so is there any reason to get the 9070xt over the 7900xtx anymore? they are literally same price where i live
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>>108837541
>It's single player version of black desert online
its nothing like BDO, i've played BDO, where did you get that idea?
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>>108838864
korean forced grindslop
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>>108838103
its decent, but consult the guide first
>>
Are 32" monitors bad or something? I never seem to see anybody discussing them.
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>>108838850
So far from what Ii've seen long ago is that fsr4 absolutely murders performance along the lines of ray tracing for rdna3.
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>>108838869
>rpg open world game is forced grindslop
i don't think you understand what words mean anon
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>>108838850
9070 XT actually works consistently
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>>108838878
most people lean towards the 32" 4k 240hz oleds compared to the 27" variants from what I've seen
idk wym

32" lcd ipses cost way more than the 27" yeah
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>>108838850
yeah, it can't use real fsr4
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>>108838973
Ahem...

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpu-drivers/amd-makes-fsr-4-upscaling-official-for-radeon-rx-7000-and-6000-series-cards-rdna-3-and-rdna-2-chips-will-soon-enjoy-improved-visuals
>>
>>108838998
still not the same fsr4
>>
Why does my 7800X3D refuse to draw more than ~100W of power, even in stress tests? It's not a thermal issue, it doesn't go over 70C. Board is the MSI B850 P WiFi (tried multiple settings and BIOS versions).
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>>108839113
seems normal? zen 4 X3D is heavily voltage limited
you will need both PBO scalar and boost override to get any more power out of it
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>>108838998
>what are kernels and instruction paths
>>
What should I replace the 7900XTX with? It's been crashing like fucking crazy and I'm getting tired of fucking around with the settings.
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It's crazy how most nvidiots have no idea they are running planned obsolescence firehazards with over 105 degree vrm and hotspot temps. All shartwell cards that draw a decent amount of power (5070 ti and above) will burn out their silicon and die conveniently just a little before RTX 6000 launches so everyone has to redeem again.
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>>108839212
Post gpuz or you don't own anything faggot
Probably this >>108838896 schizo samefagging
>>
>>108839224
you're projecting, nicotroon
>>
thread is so fucking dead it's literally just me and nicotroon in a padded cell together
(it smells like curry and feces in here, please get me out)
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this shit good or only useful for testbench warriors?
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>>108839263

>>108839279
both.
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>>108839217
Nah Nvidia isn't as shortsided as gaydeon leadership, something that serious and widespread would never happen
>>
>finish building PC
>all the crazy amount of force you have to use for things
>the "clips" that are supposed to latch onto things are stiff as hell and never feel a satisfying click
>but if you don't make sure it's all plugged in all the way your house burns down
>everything is fuckhuge but you need to shove your fingers into tiny little areas for the screws
>even when you finish you still have to do all the software downloads and driver downloads
Who actually enjoys this
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>>108839308
skill issue
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why the hell does it say the slot is covered? i have an asrock b450m pro4

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pgsz7w
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>>108839308
>crazy amount of force you have to use
You get used to it
>still have to do all the software downloads and driver downloads
Portage handles a lot of this for me
>>
>tfw it costs $309 pre-tax to double my RAM
This is bullshit. I'm for killing everyone involved in this bullshit.
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>>108839292
>both
So it's not good for daily driving?
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>>108839349
oh my god i think my retarded brother who made my pc 7 years ago put the 2060 super in the pcie 2 slot, i'm gonna CRASH OUT

please tell me there wasn't a massive performance loss

also how the fuck would you fit a graphics card in that slot? it's literally on top of the power cables.
>>
my 7900XTX just works.
it actually works too good.
like every action i do my gpu knows whats its gonna do before i do it.
is this the power of l3 cache?
>>
A while back, I saw an image featuring a custom water cooling loop that, from a single reservoir, flowed through the CPU and GPU in parallel, rather than in series. As in, the reservoir had separate, direct paths to both the CPU and GPU, as opposed to needing to go through the water block of one to get to the other.

However, I've tried multiple web searches to learn more, but I'm not able to find anything relevant. Is there a specific term for this kind of loop? "Parallel PC water cooling loop" is definitely not it.
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>>108839401
nevermind, PCIE 1,2,3 is simply the order of the slots. "PCIE 2" is the 3.0 one. so all is fine. I still don't understand why pcpartpicker says the slot is covered though?
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>>108839514
oh they are listed in the same order as in the manual, sorry for my schizo talk
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How long until someone dies and Ngreedia gets sued?
>>
what happened to factoriobox!?
>>
>build PC
>installed windows
>activated through hwid
>installed gigabyte control center, amd driver updater, and nvidia app to update all drivers
What else to do on the checklist?
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>>108839308
>Who actually enjoys this
not me. physically putting the builds together is the worst part of diy'ing
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>>108840283
>nvidia app
LOL LMAO EVEN
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>>108840283
https://ninite.com/
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>>108840283
now you just let evilsoft spy on you 24-7
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>>108840301
lmao amd app has been doing this for a decade now
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>>108837258
Will Nvidia port frame gen to the 30 series? Or mfg to the 40 series?
>>
I had to download a bunch of gigabyte motherboard drivers onto usb to install them because my wifi adapter wasn't working out of the box and I didn't have an ethernet cable, and now my installed program list has all those programs listed. Do I just leave them?
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rate my build that i put together last september

9800x3d
phantom spirit 120se
fractal design pop air mini
some seasonic 750w gold modular supply
4070 ti super (cut down 4090)
32 gigs of goyram before price hike
970 evo, 860 (old)
gigabyte gaymingx mobo
>>
Since the general gets spammed and people are given intentionally shit advice for funzies whats the place you'd recommend people migrate to for pc building advice?
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>>108840478
why would you pair a 9800X3D with a 4070ti
also
>970 evo
gross

>>108840485
I try to give earnest advice, but I'm not always here
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>>108840478
Stinky poo poo JeetForce card so automatic fail.
>>108840485
I only give malicious advice if the poster has an nvidia gpu
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>>108840485
nicotroon should just follow through on his plan to split the thread into /nvidiag/ and /amdg/
then all the reasonable people can go to /nvidiag/, even if they have AMD cards
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>>108840497
not him but cpu is actually more important that gpu. the gpu you can upgrade every 2 years because gpus have decent resell value, but the cpu is something that you will get an keep for about 6 years so you want it to be good.
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>>108840497
>why would you pair a 9800X3D with a 4070ti
I got it for cheap and it performs comparably to an rx 9070.
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>>108840518
future proofing is a meme

>>108840520
yeah I know its basically the same as a 9070, if you got it cheap then fair enough
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>>108840565
>future proofing is a meme
lmao totally not true at all
unless you're a cutting edge 4k raytraced gaymer who needs to upgrade every year
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>>108840575
I'm all for getting onto a platform that can do an in socket upgrade, but getting the best in slot CPU, pairing it with a mid GPU, then upgrading to the best in slot CPU two gens later then upgrading to another mid GPU then moving to a new CPU platform is what will end up happening and its dumb.
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>>108840594
The 4070 ti super is not particularly mid, it's literally one half tier below the upper echelon.
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is it not funny how people settle for an amd instead of a nvidia when the only difference between the two is about a weeks wage
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>>108840623
you know world outside of america exist
in india you buy amd after working for a year
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>>108840632
sometimes I forget tb h
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idk how people can get those really expensive lian li rgb fans or whatever and populate their entire chassis with them because the thought of one of them randomly breaking after like 2 years and you can no longer get that exact model of fan anymore would keep me up at night because at that point you would have to throw away the whole set.
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>>108840623
People buy AMD not cuz it's cheaper but cuz pic related. They don't wanna end up like this guy.
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>>108838878
its only bad that it's not ultrawide
lg have finally released a 39" 5120*2160 UW that makes sense to use
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>>108839217
wrong again. amd has a grapplehold on suiciding silicon while rtx2080tis, 3090tis and 4090s just continue working, even if the connector melts on some of them
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>>108837258
arc a750 with rebar enabled intel cpu is very nice in linux, better drivers than amd/nvidya
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>>108840803
doubt they are better than AMD (in terms of feature support, performance, game compatibility, etc)
maybe more stable

better than NVIDIA is a low bar
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>>108840820
arc offers much better hardware transcoding than amd, better HDR, about same amount of ram as AMD cards and typically $100 cheaper
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>>108840478
>4070 ti super (cut down 4090)
that automatically makes your build a 8/10
that's pretty rare
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>>108840835
>arc offers much better hardware transcoding than amd
sure
>better HDR
not sure what's better about it
arch wiki says it's still experimental on intel
>typically $100 cheaper
sure
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>>108840840
its wrong though, the 4070 Ti Super is a cut down GA103 which is a 4080, not a 4090 which is a GA102
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>>108840920
thats true for 99% of them
the remaining 1% uses harvested ad102 dies around the time rtx4000 got discontinued
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rdna5 soon
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>>108841080
>>108841080
>soon
lel
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>>108840797
It's retarded chinese shit tier thermal compound.
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>>108841080
will it be another generation of driver timeouts and high idles temps and still no latest fsr in 90% of games and also no ray reconstruction technology and no rtx hdr equivalent and nothing comparable to dldsr?
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>>108840820
They are absolutely better at display which is why Linus of LTT brought Linus of Linux kernel an Intel Arc card, they had a 6 year head start making their graphics open source since 2004. They are not better at gaming because Valve and AMD put most of the support for Linux gaming there and Intel ignored that in Linux only going for basic display support. That's why you have the new Xe driver for dGPUs Intel is making. While it is better than Nvidia in some respects, the compatibility aspect is actually worst. You can not launch any Capcom games at the moment newer than DMC5 on Alchemist cards, for example because Intel has a bug somewhere for Alchemist GPUs which is pissing me off, from Dragon's Dogma to Pragmata.
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>>108840478
gpu is sagging, get one of those stands
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>>108840478
first cpu cooler fan is also not seated properly
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do most people go overkill on cpu cooling
feel like a small to medium sized air cooler is sufficient for 90% of people(specifically just people who play games and go on the internet)
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>>108841209
I do, have a peerless assassin 140 for my 5700x3d and I bought an a deepcool assassin IV elite to replace it when I get my 5800x3d, both coolers way too good for the cpus
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if you're not trying to get all components to 60c at full load why are you even posting here
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you can't buy this in amerikkka, land of the free
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>>108841217
I was thinking about getting the Thermalright Peerless Assassin Mini because of it's simple and compact and less obstructing design, it still has decent cooling and I bet it would cool even better with PBO set to -20 on my cpu, I think for me that is all that I would need.
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>>108841249
I use those on my homelab servers, they are great
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>>108841128
you mean the same shit that everyone is using? why does silicon failure only happen with amd... hmm...
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>>108841240
black satan cvbe
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>>108841209
a two tower setup will work for 90% of users
Water coolers got astroturfed into being popular the last decade hence why everyone wants to get one when it only matters if you are overclocking
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>>108841260
no, chinese companies do things like skimp on the dumbest things ever. They're scammers. It's shocking for white people.
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>on sale!
>25% above msrp
NGMI
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Imagine actually buying POODNA2, abandoned with no rocm 7 support, no VK_EXT_descriptor_heap support, no Shader Model 6.9 and 6.10 support

https://devblogs.microsoft.com/directx/shader-model-6-9-retail-and-more/#appendix
https://devblogs.microsoft.com/directx/shader-model-6-10-agilitysdk-720-preview/#appendix

https://github.com/GPUOpen-Drivers/AMD-Gfx-Drivers/issues/93#issuecomment-4012656074

>Unfortunately, support for descriptor heaps is heavily dependent on mainline software architecture updates and is not currently targeted for support in the maintenance branch.

https://projects.blender.org/blender/blender/issues/158350#issuecomment-1927924

>Since RDNA2 and older only officially support runtime 6, while RDNA3 are switching to only officially support runtime 7.

Don't listen to AYYMDEADPOORFAGS astrorturfers, their GPUs age poorly like spoiled milk vinegar and they know it and have no answer to real FACTS and yes, you got played like a damn fiddle for buying POODNA2 by AYYMDEAD
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he spends hours doing this every day
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>>108841299
rdna2 werks on Linux.

your hat is very interesting, by the way.
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The problem I have with that retard is that amd gpu roll of a relatively basic fab, and so there's no real "secret sauce" or magic here. idk, it's just dipshitting.
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>>108841299
>VK_EXT_descriptor_heap support
That's already in mesa, mr purveyor of half truths.
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Meanwhile nvidia's idea of support is by supporting """""features""""".
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I wonder if they'll keep improving fsr 4.1 or the next step will be fsr 5, and if they upgrade will they also port the upgrades to int8 and rdna 3 and 2? seems like a lot of work
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>>108841484
the tensor trying to find a reason to be on a gaming machine version 4.5

it's totally not a chinese man trying to help his race improve their nuclear capacity, by creating a "legitimate" pathway to simulation.
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i'm upgrading my 2700x to a 5700x at the EOFY sales, and upgrading my RX6600 to a 9070XT at EOY. $150/fortnight bros, we are gonna make it.
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>>108841505
once RDNA 2 + 3 have support then its just dll swap.
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>>108841516
get the 5800x3d, it'll be back by then
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>>108841525
isn't that just a rumor.
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>>108841527
nah, it's a leak, so it's confirmed but not public
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fsr 5 talk already?!
lmao most new games don't even have support for fsr 4
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>>108841523
well, I hope so, because that means fsr 4 will keep getting upgrades, I like it a lot, I hope fsr 5 doesn't end up being like dlss 5
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>>108840623
I bought an AMD card that was not much better than my nvidia card to replace the latter because I was so fucking tired of the nvidia driver bugs on Linux. Every fucking time they fixed a bug I hated they introduce a new one I hate even more. I put up with it for almost a year before I threw in the towel. AMD card has only one bug I know of since I got it and it is irrelevant to me because it affects ROCm.
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game companies need to go through their catalogs fixing games when graphics are reduced in quality.

There's no reason the visuals should collapse, you should be able to really lower things.

this is for single player, idc about multi
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>>108841531
the drivers switch every fsr 3.1 game to fsr 4 on rdna4 and in 2 months rdna3 will have that, rdna2 q1 next year
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>>108837258
What even is the point of FSR4 on RDNA3 if the performance is so bad? Are people coping that it will somehow run better than the leak? I've been using it for months and the only use case I've found for it is using it in AA mode on games where you don't mind a shit framerate.
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>>108841824
fsr 3 is just dogshit. fsr 4 with quality looks better than it.
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>>108841837
Not denying that, but the INT8 model still looks worse than native for a minimal performance boost. I don't think software magic can compensate for inferior hardware.
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>>108841874
taa looks worse than fsr 4 even on rdna 3
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>>108841824
fsr4 is better quality and performance than native even on rdna3
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PS5 Pro has 300 TOPs of INT8 performance

https://www.amd.com/en/products/graphics/desktops/radeon/7000-series/amd-radeon-rx-7900xtx.html

POODNA3's 525mm2 flagship GPU only has 123 TOPs of INT8 performance

POODNA3 lusers are gonna have a miserable FSR4 performance experience but AYYMDEAD no longer cares about that since they have to release it now and it's even lower performance for lower end GPUs
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amd next gen better have fp4
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>>108842037
what kinda consumer will buy amd next gen
console users?
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>>108842009
that is why the ps5 pro is slower than even a 7700xt?
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Just a reminder guys that you can report any posts using flamewar instigating terms such as "poodna" or "ayymdead"
The jannie can only cleanup the thread if you mark the posts out for him just a PSA
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>>108842009
are you perhaps retarded? ps5 pro loses to a 9060xt 8gb now that linux has all that vram optimisation
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>>108842059
PS5 Pro is slower because it still POODNA2 GPU microarchitecture, no large caches like on desktop GPUs

But for INT8 upscaling, it rapes all POODNA3 GPUs with 300 TOPs
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>>108842089
>it can do more fake res and fake frames bro
who cares? it still gets bogged by a fucking 7700xt.
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>108842089
>POODNA
>/g/ - Technology Rule
>Rule 3. Trolling is not permitted. Do not instigate or participate in flamewars.
Make sure to report, filter and most importantly not reply. This thread is for helping people build pcs and these retarded no life brand warriors only goal is to derail off topic
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>>108842118
>help people
>try to steer people into buying inferior AYYMDEAD garbage that will not support Shader Model 6.9/6.10

TOP KEK
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3:30 pm work day still not over in India btw
Anti amd spam = jeet shilling always remember this
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>poopoodeeNayy
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>one retailer had insane ddr5 ram sales a while back
>considered buying just in case since there was no return
>check ram prices again now
>things are as bad or even worse still
waiting until 6090 i guess and buying a whole new build
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>>108842227
My 8 year old laptop can do another year or 2 easy
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>>108842290
my 3 year old laptop can too and i am just fine in general but boring
laptops also have crazy sales some times might unorincally be good value buying some times
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so next year if you don't have 52 cores for general use and shader compile you gonna be cucked
amd will still be selling anemic 8 core cpus for 600$ too
crazy
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>>108842448
intel can sell 100 cuck cores and i still would not care
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>>108842448
>cuck cores, no avx512
>ccx fuckery
worst of both worlds
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>>108840840
>>108840920
>>108840977
Its kind of retarded that peo0le think these cards are cut down from consumer cards. The 4090 and 5090 are cut down. Nvidia isn't selling untouched silicon in the consumer market.
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worry not, americans to the rescue lol
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>>108842448
why would they be selling 8 cores when the CCDs will be 12 cores.
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>>108842575
Anastasi in Tech is unwatchable
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>>108842575
Why does she sound like a man
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>>108837258
what duster do you use?
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>>108842583
they bin them to 8 core 6 core variations
marketed towards gamers
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>>108842834
i have a 100l compressor that i only use to dust off my pc



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