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guys?
>>108828640usecase when i have a mouse and keyboard right in front of me?
100$ mechanical keyboard with silent thockthock and that doesn't sound like irishmen tapdancing on rolled steel?
>>108828640scammered
whats the go to nvidia drivers that not broken besides the ai coded latest and ancient no longer supported 566.36
>>108828667around 580
>>108828618How's this for a PC build? I barely know anything about building my own, so any feedback would be appreciated. Jumping from the speccy screenshot at the bottom.I'm happy with 1080p gaming for now, but eventually I will move to 1440p. Idk how well this would perform at 4k.Is there anything here that is absolutely retarded? Anything that could be swapped out for something better without increasing the price too much?Shit's expensive these days. That total is €4815 / $5595. I knew ram was expensive, but the SSD's caught me by surprise.
>>108828697get 5070Tioverpriced mobooverpriced AIOoverkill PSU
>>108828667I just use the latest with no issues like everyone else
>>1088286975070tiEverything can be like way cheaper
>>108828706>>1088287275080 is just €138/$160 more.PSU is just €18,5/$21,5 more than 850w.Which motherboard and cooler would you recommend for the rest then? I don't really know what to look for in them
>>108828672580.88 it is then>>108828715im not a dumb normie
>>108828756>im not a dumb normie>cares about >1msyeah right...
>>108828762post your latencymon
>>108828770>post your latencymon
>>108828697your rig will handle 1440p perfectly, corsair cooling paste is stupid, buy noctua or thermalgrizzly or something.arctic freezer AIO or TRYX, try to avoid ASUS tech they have horrible customer service. Nice mobo pick, 64gigs of ram is fantastic to have, but its not essential if you wanna save money.Now is like the worst time ever to buy a giga-build, but if you want to play at 1440p or better, its not gonna get better anytime soon either.
If you're shit at video games a few microsecond differences aren't to blame unfortunately
>>108828782>>108828795what is your dpc post it
>>108828795>>108828782Same guys that can't tell DSC lag.
>>108828805They are retarded.https://forums.blurbusters.com/viewtopic.php?t=14097&sid=27008f2b2503553a577007f071353208&start=10
>>108828740Don't know how things are exactly in whatever euro country that is but the aio in the greatest place on earth (America) is like 3x the price of what you need to pay. Check out like Arctic or thermalright or something. Here msi branded aio's are randomly basically free, so maybe check that too.Same with the motherboard, you could maybe halve the cost on that Or don't change anything, do whatever.
bro still advertising his chatroom lmao
>comp niggers saying that anyone else is retarded
>>108828640wait, they left the wireless dongle there?
>>108828805Who the fuck uses display stream compression in 2026?
>>108828802264
>>108828618whats so good about the monitors in the OP?im in need of a new one
>>108828846I don't think it's been changed in like a yearAt the very least they wouldn't be the worst you could do.
>>108828831the asus pulsar monitor has it on by default and no option to disable sadly
I boughted the msi pulsar monitor I feel like this is going to change my life when it gets to me.
>>108828852id trust op with my life>>108828862works for me thx for the info
I can get all of this for £1700 https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/FCMz7wAre things expected to drop in price soon or is now a good opportunity?Also, do you think there are any better options for the price range?
>>108828894get a hellhound
>>108828831dont like 95% of 4k240 or 1440p360 monitors require DSC
>>108828894Don't buy a 9070xt man. At least wait for amd to clarify their position on fsr diamond because they've suggested that stuff is hardware exclusive to rdna 5. Otherwise you're buying a card that'll be obsolete a year from now.
>>108828906I dont get it. Dp2.1 supports 1440p360 without needing dsc
>>108828894get a 5070ti or stop pussy-dicking around and get a 5090. There's literally no other options
Caved and ordered a s90h. It and the desk mount will get here tomorrow.Time for beeg gaming.
Note that the KTC miniLED & ASUS WOLED monitors on the OP have pretty polarizing owner reviewers, you'll either love it or hate it.Do thorough research to understand what you're getting into.There's no perfect monitor, you should buy one from a retailer with a customer-friendly return policy.If you're OLED monitor shopping, ASUS ROG tend to have the best ones (also the costliest).WOLED PSAhttps://tftcentral.co.uk/articles/exploring-the-grey-banding-issue-affecting-some-tandem-woled-panels
>>108828917well my other option is to go for a cheap ~£200ish gpu and wait for next gen. That's sort of what I'm doing with the cpu. I'll wait for zen6 or zen7 if that's on am5.>>108828904Is this everyone's go to version or something?
>>108828924its just monitor makers being cheap. msi's latest $800 34" qdoled even has dp2.1 but doesnt support full bandwidth uhbr20, only the gimped uhbr13.5 spec
>>108828939>you should buy one from a retailer with a customer-friendly return policy.ASUS also has by far the most stingiest warranty making this point very important
>>108828831This poorfag schizo has moved on to FUDing DSC when the tech is reliable enough to be deployed in automotives.
>>108828924not too long ago the DP 2.1 cables were capped in length if you wanted it to be certified. I think it goes now up to 2m now.
>>108828957Search on HotUKDeals for good deals on GPU and CPU. You can get a 7700 8 core/16 thread CPU for the same price as that 6 core, but i dont know about warranty. FYI I've bought CPUs from these aliexpress stores with no issue. You can also get a 7800x3d for £215 right now.
Is it a myth that AMD CPU and Nvidia GPU is a bad combo? Or less than ideal at least?
I kinda wish we could move away from 25mm thick fans and go to 30mm or so ones.>>108829020These days it is a myth.
>>108829020>mythyes
>>108829020Complete myth.
>>108829020If that processor configuration is good enough for Zywoo, it's good enough for you.
>>108829040zywoo is washed tho
>>108829020you may not know this but ryzen cpus check your whether your gpu's vendor id is AMD and if it isn't, silently throttles itself by 20% in performancetrust me bro
>>108829040>>108829039>>108829036>>108829029Thanks
Not gonna lie anons I am getting awfully tempted to try and find a 290x lightning.
>>108829096usecase?
>>108828672Actually scratch that. Tried the latest ones and I no longer get pink flashes when watching youtube. Finally a working driver after the entire 59x.xx pile of shit so far.
asrock still shit for mobos?
>>108829020Jewf*s claims that nvidia gpu is cpu agnostic but AMD gpu benefits from AMD cpu>>108828932>desk mountwhat fucking size...>>108828980that's still cappedAOC or irrelevant cables tbqh>>108828831all tvs above 144hzall most monitors above 4k240/1440p500most users who are on the bleeding edge of tech are using itanyone not retarded and poor pretty much>>108828805>Theory stems from a single blurbuster forum post that was solved and edited by the same userwitholding sentences from a post to bait people is not real shitpostingimprove ur abilities
https://www.techpowerup.com/349082/samsung-starts-shutting-down-chip-production-lines-ahead-of-18-day-worker-strikeIT'S JOEVEREVEN MORE DRAM SHORTAGES BECAUSE OF LOW IQ UNION WORKERS STRIKING
rec me a SFF case with the below constraints> volume 18>=<20L> foot print length: 37cm max> foot print width: 20 cm max> cooling: air> fits RX 9070XT> fits Ryzen 9800X3D + coolerI'm loving the look of the Era2, but it seems very restricted.
>>108829510oldest gpu that can still run anything.
>>108830185You gotta be some kind of actual retard to have not bought the shit you been by now.
>>108830185hasidic hands typed this
I'm too poor to be able to afford my dream PC, but I still come to this place cause I like you guys.
>>108830338stop being poor, unless you are a terminal neetfag on permabux or something, in that case reduce your expenses or fine side incomes even moreliving on nothing is fucking painstop being poor
>>108830338thanks but i'm not sure what's supposed to be likable about anyone still posting in this thread
>>108830268amd on linux you can force rt so thing like indiana jones and doom are technically playable on pre-rdna2 gpus. Oldest actually passable in those would be vegaOn windows, literally every desktop rtx including the 2060 and 3050 are still totally usable for now.>>108830338>like you guyslmao
>>108830257I have that case and it turned out to be a real good and simple build. 5080+7800x3d.The only real constraint is the gpu size support. I would have gotten a 5090 if there was one to fit in there at the time, and finding a 5080 that would fit was limiting. Though now there's a proart 5090 coming out that will fit in there easily.If you want one with a little bit more wiggle room and isn't a sandwich style case I would recommend the Jonsbo/Jonsplus Z20.
>>108830478do you use it water cooling? what cpu cooler do have on it?
>>108830497Yeah, beQuiet silent loop 3It lives up to its name and it's kept it below 75c even when doing heavy gamingDunno how it would do cooling a 9800x3d though, it runs a little hotter than the 7800x3d
>>108830516i want air cooling only, what's the point of running a minimalist sff build only to bloat it up with water and pumps and shit? it's a PC not a car.
Ill never stop being an intel/nvidia fanboy
>>108830533That's why I recommended the Jonsbo case since it can do air cooling. The cooler master nr200 cases can do air cooling too but that one might be a little bigger, can't remember the dimensions.The era 2 doesn't have glass panels so it's not like you're ever going to see the pumps or cables. But you can still make it look tidy with a little cable management. My pumps and psu cables are all running and fastened along the psu mounting bracket so it's easy to slide the case open and access the ram/cpu/ssd or run the blower across the fans/interior when cleaning without having to fight any cables.
>>108830569based
My afterburner always resets power and fan curve after pc restart so I have to manually load the profile again. Wat do? It's not the nvidia app interfering because nvcleaninstall.
>>108830861It's been awhile since I've used afterburner but didn't you have to do something like click the save floppy disc at the bottom, then save it to a number as a profile along the right, followed by clicking the lock on the right to lock your settings?
I have a plan to modify my pc but I require like 750w for a psu but that shit won't fit inside the case, honestly what stops me from just putting the psu ontop of the computer case and getting some lengthy cables to go into the computer to connect everything without closing the lid so basically having an "open" computer??
>>108831340>honestly what stops me from just putting the psu ontop of the computer caseLiterally nothing
Got a new computer with Ryzen 9900X CPU.It has AIO cooling (Corsair NAUTILUS 360 RS)I noticed that it's getting these spikes in temperature where in the matter of seconds it goes from ~40C up to ~80C, then the fans go on turbo mode, and it cools back down.Is this normal or did they fuck up my cooling system?
I would still be using this thing if modern hardware didn't outgrow it. I've seen some cases that poorly approximate it, but they're usually designed for NAS or are 45% glass panels and LEDs.
>>108831479itz cuz you have too many sensors running creating race conditions
>>108831340>but I require like 750w for a psu but that shit won't fit inside the caseWdym? 99% psus are ATX
>>108831490Just get hardware that fits.
>>108831500Im saying it won't fit
>>108831526What does wattage have to with size? They arr rook same from 500 to 1000W. You can experiment with small forms or the server psus that are long and thin.
>>108831497what does that mean
>>108831509But I like my hardware.>>108831526This is my gay doppelganger, ignore them.
>>108831546stop using msi afterburner and just use your computer. all those sensors make your pc slower/hotter.
>>108828658brown, black or silver switch go
>>108831564That doesn't account for the CPU hitting 80C while it's at ~5% usage.
>>108831500nta, I bought a new 850w atx psu and it's longer than my previous atx psu. With the modular cables also being quite stiff, it's enough that the new psu doesn't fit inside my mini itx case anymore. which sucks.
>>108831625Windows now boosts your CPU for every action you do like other OShttps://www.tomshardware.com/software/windows/microsoft-staunchly-defends-its-new-low-latency-profile-for-windows-11-after-community-backlash-says-every-other-os-already-boosts-cpu-speeds-for-quicker-load-times
looking to turn my main monitor (acer Nitro VG271U Pbmiipx 27" WQHD) into a secondary and go ultrawide. any good suggestions around roughly $300-$400ish that people would recommend right now?
>>108831490>>108831509HAF XB EVO gang rules this generalone day I'll finish modding my side panels and I'll post a picture, I'm adding 2 140mm fans on the side panels and also a 80/92mm fan for the harddrives, cutting metal is terrible so I'm doing it slowly, but when I finish it you'll think it's the greatest case ever (if ur gpu is <330mm)
>>108831661So should I not worry about these spikes? I don't really see anyone else with the same issue from a few google searches. I just bought this PC so I'm paranoid.
>mfw faggots here with their bloat liquid cooling for their nerd PCs while my 250kg Harley Davidson Fat Boy is air cooled. later virgins
>>108831846the cpu is spec'd to handle up to 95c 24/7/365. a short 80c spike is nothing.
>>108831662https://www.newegg.com/hkc-g27m7pro-27-160-hz-fhd-320-hz-uhd-ips-black/p/N82E16824204017?Item=N82E16824204017
>>108830257I like it and the ITX version.I'm looking for a home server case that can take 2 3.5" and 2 2.5" drives but neither of them can do it. Gonna use the Define 7 Mini for it.
do custom ram heatsinks actually cool the ram chips?
60 series next year, right? hopefully prices get better before then...
>>108832241market will crash hard in H2 this year, there might even never be a 60 series
>>108832255then the 5090s will become affordablewin/win for average joes like me
>>108832269>the 3090 will fall in price, beliv me!!1
>>108832145yes but ram likes a single fan pointed at it better
>>108832255If there's a signal that Trump and his family members sold their positions before the mid-term elections, Things will get pretty bad.They will stop propping the markets if the other side manages to win some seats.https://finance.yahoo.com/markets/stocks/articles/stock-trade-disclosure-reveals-trump-111526929.html
My RAM is shot.Memtest is throwing up tons of errors.Now I've read that G.Skill offers a lifetime warranty. what the hell, is that true?
>>108832416I was speaking with my dad, we're both economists, and he came up with that exact argument, like 5 minutes ago, I personally don't care or look into that stuff because the macroeconomic scenario is so gloomy (with the 10 years yields, 30 years yields, electrical energy prices, oil prices, it's a bomb really) that to me is enough to be desperate already
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoFAFRDoP9Ado you listen to the chudtubers with 500k subscribers that tell you gpu backplates are worthless or to the real people that test things and have different results?
>>108832461just repaste and power limit retard
>>108825599Incompatible with modern HDD I suppose. Would of had to mount it different anyways.
>>108832446The economy is completely intact; everything is fine.The problem is the financial world and its returns - aka the Ponzi scheme - which no longer works. The only thing that kept it alive was population growth and decoupling from the real economy.Capitalism is good, financial capitalism is evil because it drains capital from the real economy.And this whole mess began in the 1970s with the “deregulation of the capital market” because those who profited from colonization could no longer maintain their standard of living after losing their colonies.What a fucked-up world where economists claim otherwise.
>>108832420It's true while they have RMA inventories left to send you.If they're out of memory chips, they'll most likely offer the original price you paid for the memory kit.
found a schizo that did to his gpu exactly what I'm gonna do to my 9070xt after the warranty runs out, the only difference is I know how to use a caliper and ruler to measure things before cutting and I dont use liquid metal, it's a terrible product, ptm7950 has 90% of the same performance with none of the drawbacks.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhS8RUDWQG8
So my trusty GTX 1080 hybrid has started to leak from the radiator. What are my options for repair here, is there a new cooler I can swap in or am I basically forced to upgrade at this point? If I do upgrade is there a brand new card I can expect the same longevity out of for 1440p gaming without breaking a thousand?
>>108832725>longevity out of for 1440p gaming without breaking a thousand9070 xt>new cooleraliexpress sells old heatsinks that they harvest from dead cards, 1080 was very popular so it's probably not expensive
>>108832725Replacements are going to be expensiveUpgrade to a 5070ti or 9070xt instead.
>>108832725Man I wonder how many EVGA cards are still out there in use. EVGA been dead a long time now.
>or higher lol
>>108832784I was using my gtx 1070 until december 2025 when I bought my steel legend 9070 xt, it still works and I've done maintenance on it recently before retiring it, it's in the box
>>108832810 (me)it's an evga 1070 SC edition
>>108832810I had the same card till I got a 5070. It's now on my shelf as a show piece. Very nice looking card.
>>108832746Thanks anon, found a cooler for 55 bucks on there I might try, although it says 1070 on the side but says it will work for a 1080. Even if I upgrade I kinda want to repair this card and throw it in my old build I use as a living room media PC these days.Looking at those 9070's and might not have the space for one because I'm also a HAF XB user. Loved it so much I have two of them. >>108831490The 5070 ti's look like they still fit, only a few mm longer than my 1080, but that puts me right at or over a grand.
>>108832843I'm also a XB EVO user, the asrock steel legend 9070xt fits, in case you'd consider it, it's the reason why I bought it instead of the xfx mercury OC, which has the best heatsink cooler
>abit waifu board
>>108832944It's the Aorus Elite P Ice for me.
>>108832725Check "parts only" listings of EVGA GTX 1080 or 1070 cards.Those air coolers might fit.https://www.ebay.com/itm/397948027499
>>108832647What dogshit 9070 XT model did you get that didn't come with ptm7950? Most of them do desu
>>108832944>>108832963Are the various weaboo mobos available only via temu fishing? I only know about Yeston having their own site.
>>108833030Yep, pretty much China-only releases.
>>108833030I just found the abit board on ebay https://www.ebay.com/itm/127866672075?
>>108833070I don't trust that RoG logo on the top m2 heatsink lmao
So does the DSC schizo own an Njeetia card? Because I did research and DSC monitors only have problems with nvidia cards. Must be a typical JeetForce drivers issue.
>>108833199you are the "DSC schizo", nicotroon, don't think you're fooling anyone
are amd driver timeouts more of a windows issue than an amd issue and would going to linux solve the issue?
>>108833321Is this a legitimate question or bait, also what gpu?
>>108833325legit question 7900xt
>>108833321RDNA1 and RDNA3 are defective hardware, they can't be fixed by switching OS
>>108833334I have read posts with rnda 4 also having random driver crashes
>>108833343yeah but those are probably just regular driver issueshaven't seen anything to support the claim that AMD shipped out RDNA4 with unfixable silicon bugs
>>108833351fair enough anon and ty for the reply really just waiting now for rdna 5 to change my current gpu and hopefully that hardware isn't defective.
>>108833321its a "you need to re-seat your card" issue
>>108833367as always you roll the dice with AMDthey don't give a fuck because they know gamers will always blame the game firstpolaris is solid, RDNA2 is solidRDNA4 is still too new to make any kind of definitive claim but it also seems solid so far
>>108833377>as always you roll the dice with AMDI would love to get an rtx 6080 next year(if it has high vram) but I hate how it's really only viable on windows 11 which gets worse after every single update.
>>108833400yeah i agree but i don't think NVIDIA's linux drivers will improve any time soonAMD on linux works because the code is integrated with the rest of the kernelwith NVIDIA it's essentially their windows code base + a thin compatibility layer, it's a lazy approach that other manufacturers ditched over 10 years agobut i'm sure it saves them a few cents per card
>>108833343never had a driver crashout on my 9070xt unless when I was undervolting too much it became unstable.
>>108828697You don't need 64GB for gaming, 32GB is enough.No need for a 5080 unless it's only little more than a 5070Ti in your place.Asus AIO cooler is a stupid waste of money, get an ALF3 Pro.A 850Watt PSU would do unless you plan upgrades.You could easily save a thousand to fifteen hundred gold pressed latinum and still get the same gaming experience.
>>108833400what exactly do you think happens if you boot up linux on an nvidia gpu
>Rog Crosshair X870E>10800X3D>Zalman CNPS9500come home white man
>>10883347910xxx cpus are gonna be really boringfor gaming there hasnt been actual improvement after 7800x3d, no game is made to push cpus harder than that to not be bottlenecked by the gpu, and for multicore you'd go with intelcpu space is entirely dormant now, only interesting thing is pricing for chips and path tracing pef on 60xx gpus
>>108833487>7800x3d5800x3d*
>>108833487>10xxx cpus are gonna be really boringnah. 12 cores per CCD and a node shrink
>>108833496amds pricing strategy for x3d chips has been terriblelike people went "wow 5800x3d for 220€. 7800x3d for 300€" and amd fucked them over with limiting supply so prices went up, 9800x3d is above 400€what do you think happens on next gen, 500€ + cpus that dont provide noticeable difference in games
>>108829849Was never shit, rather the contrary.The Nova is still the best value premium featured X870E mobo without stupid lane sharing and 5 slots for SSDs. Works like a breeze. Heavy duty quality. Inb4 but redditors burned their CPU with it. Obvious skill issues.https://www.igorslab.de/en/asrock-phantom-gaming-x870e-nova-wifi-in-test-cheap-taichi-alternative-with-experience-report-teardown-material-testing-and-thermal-modding/
Liberals probably need to be told "high capacity" magazines are like "high capacity" hard drives. They're actually standard and normal people need them for normal purposes.
>>108833507Hey bro can you benchmark this retro build of New World?
>>108833504I remember you were all doom and gloom about the 9800X3D before it came out and it did 30% on the 7800X3D
>MSI MAG OLED 271QPX32 27-inch WQHD 320Hz 5-Layer Penta Tandem QD-OLED Dark Armor Gaming Monitori'm so tired
>>108833514in real world gaming scenarios in actual games at actual monitor res people play at theres no significant difference between 270k, 7800x3d and 9800x3dthe gpu is the bottleneck in most cases
>>108833521>muh 270kso you're just a butthurt Intelfag, got it.
>>108833523nice argument? God cant these people eat their fucking meds
>>108833504>>amds pricing strategy for x3d chips has been terribleit has not people only buy the $500 9800X3D no matter what
>>108833517what does five tandem(tm) even mean?
>>108833528>best in slot isn't important, pls buy intel!
>>108833531artificially limiting supply of cheap desirable products and upselling a new "refreshed" product thats basically the same at 2x the price is generally considered a bit anti-consumer
>>108833534marketing speak for it gets brighter (hdr1300 instead of hdr1000)
>16tb wd red pro>$655 from wd direct>$495 shipped/sold by amazonAre these drives about to get even more expensive or is wd direct always that much more expensive?
>>108833478https://streamable.com/pldw1k
>>108833507i do wish my steel legend had a post code :(
I wonder what the 1% lows or even average fps of gta 6 will be on an 5800x3dif it's shit then that would be the time to upgrade for me
>>108833649considering it probably wont launch on PC until 2028 at the earliest, you might not have to worry
>>108833649why do you want to play gta over stuff with actual gameplay
>>108833564don't really care that much about brightness because I sit in a dark room or with the curtains down during the day.
>>108833658true>>108833661I play all sorts of games
>>108833649basically see RDR2. DX12 mode has better avgs, Vulkan has better 1% lows.
>>108833676It will be at least 1.5x as hard on the cpu compared to rdr2 probably even 2x with all the cpu heavy settings turned up to he max. From the ads and screenshots you can see not just large npc densities with mindless npcs walking around but also npcs interacting with each other and even operating in grouped animations which will wreck most cpus.
>>108828618my friend saw a SATA SSD priced at almost $3000 CAD at the store is this just how expensive parts are now
>>108833747Its a preview of what it feels like being the permanent underclass wanting to buy desirable products in the future
>>108833747that shop was scalping for sure$3000 is more than enough to get you a bleeding edge gen5 8tb nvme ssd
>>108833747that sounds like a retailer trying it on
>>108833739the minumum (1080p/30fps) is ps5 specs which are zen 2 + rx 6700if you got a x3d + 4070 or better you are already 2x better than ps5.
>>108833755>>108833762>>108833764found it on the interwebs>15-day low price guarantee
>>108833784>canada rupees
why would you need an ssd that big?
>>108833784scalped prices
>>108833799its just easier to purchase large ssds than to bother with a NAS desu
>>108833791>>108833827i was concern trolling a little bit idk why that one's so high when the best consumer ssd you can buy is cheaper
>>108832963they almost had me with this design, if not for the tacky, ugly AORUS logo on the top left area
>>108833899its priced in to scam boomers who insist on sticking with sata on their am4 or older intel platform with all two to three m.2.s used up
>upgrade my old ass i7-10700k into a 9800x3d, fully knowing I would get heavily bottlenecked by my gpu.>Also had the genius idea to upgrade my monitor to a 34'' 1440p one (I was still on 1080p)>Found out that, not just my m.2 wd sata ssd isn't compatible with the b850m, but also, my tired ass 4060ti can't handle 1440p for shit.>had to anticipate my 9070xt purchase by several months and also buy a ssd adapter.I want to kms desu
I know there are a bunch of oled schizos in here, are you following the LG G6 "drama"? They sent a unit so bad that HDTV, the best tv reviewer literally couldn't post a review for almost two months, he posted a new one with updated firmware today, haven't watched it yet, but it did tremendous damage to the brand already
>>108833996buy a real nvme ssd, 1tb is enough in these dire times
>>108833996everyone probably told you that sata m.2 was a bad idea and the cost saving wasn't worth italso you probably would have been better off going to a 14600k instead of being scammed on ramalso anyone could have told you a 4060ti isn't a 1440p card
>>108833898is that actually true?also ssds begin to decay the moment you cut the power
>>108834010I had my setup for about 4 years now, I just didn't do my research when jumping to the 9800x3d
yeah, the LG G6 is cooked, they botched it, right on the year I was ready to buy a new TV, guess I'll wait another year.
>>108834016fair enough, its not a big deal because X3D is almost ram agnostic so whatever trash you ended up with will probably be fine
>>108828756>higher is betterlmaoooyou and whoever made this graph must kys
>>108834047>right on the year I was ready to buy a new TVlol same, I am still using a the LG C9 from over half a decade ago and I was waiting for the G6 this year to finally upgrade as well.
>>108834066mine is even older than yours, I should've bought the G5 but I waited because it's a new chip year so I was expecting good upgrades but instead they ruined the TV
Retard here, can anyone explain what Resizable BAR does exactly and why it sometimes causes issues?
>>108834099it never causes issues, just enable it and forget about it
>>108834076what problems are you reading about? what I am seeing is that they messed up hdr and the colours in this years model. not a huge deal breaker because most of it probably can be fixed with an update in the future. but at least the weird dithering problem from the g5 isn't present.
>>108834099
>>108834116HDTV published his review, if watch it you know it's not a good purchase
>>108834099If your GPU vram is unstable instead of getting worse fps or artifacts the whole PC crashes
Rate my pc:AM4, Crucial 3600 cl 22 16gb, Ryzen 2300x.Intel Arc A380.HDD WD, SDD Crucial.Most of the time its a youtube machine then work then games; Pragmata and Resident Evil.The game really wants you to became a dad.
>>108834158based poorfag setup
>>108834158you can throw in a $100 5600 from aliexpress but you probably don't need to>>108834158>The game really wants you to became a dad.prease to up the birthlate
>>108834109That's just not true, and is precisely why I want to understand who is at fault when these issues happen (kernel, drivers, specific software).>>108834124This is very basic but even so it seems to hint the possible problem that the CPU could "bite more than it can chew", so to speak.
Are am5 motherboards, cpus worth buying currently, then wait for ram prices to fall?
>>108834275worry about your role as a soldier, drafted into the eternal war to slay children for the jews.
decided I will reinstall windows on the new boot drive instead of cloning, do I keep using chocolatey for basic software or switch to winget?
nevermind winget doesnt have anything
14700kf at $200 when?
>>108834686why would you ever touch that over 270k
>>108834686they are going to refresh raptor lake yet again so don't bother with that older version
>>108834707For when you have a 12400 and are willing to swap out the processor but too lazy for a new motherboard
>>108834047what? is its panel worse than last year's model?
>>108834047uh.I mean, this may be "peak tv / monitor".buy now. I'm not a fan of loans, but now is a good time to get a loan on them.
>>108834275No
does anyone know what the definitive version of windows that I should be using?
>>108834859Preferably either 98 or xp
>>108834764watch the HDTVTest review, it looks far worse than the G5
>>108834859windows 10 LTSC until you decide to man up and switch to linux
>>108834878how does win10 run hdr? I heard that it contains problems
>>108834884I don't do hdr so idk
>>108834707why would you get a 270k over a 7800X3D, let alone a 9800X3D.sorry Intelxister but with DDR5 prices as they are the 270k doesn't make sense.at least 14th gen has a purpose for poorfags and poorfags who need an upgrade from an older DDR4 build.
>>1088349293x better multicore is niceddr5 prices are same on intel and amd
>>108834929intel silicon is basically notorious at this point.I don't like x3d, but intel is an "over my dead body" shit. just never and no. I will start screaming and throwing poop. Absolutely NO.
the reality? cpu speed matters nothing when it comes to gamingcache is kingmemory timings is princeand that's allthe 5800x3d to 9800x3d jump is mostly irrelevant at 4k because both chips have the same 3dvcache pool of 64mbzen6 is going to have a little more cache because it has more cores but don't be fooled, it still has the same 64mb of extra cachezen 7 is when the time is right to upgrade, it's when they'll finally expand the extra cache layer, that will bring the real gayming upgrades, it'll finally be time (maybe) to upgrade from the 5800x3d
don't say I didn't warn you, the crash is incoming
>>108834993but even then probably not because first gen am6 will most likely have problems so zen 8 will be the time to upgrade the 5800x3d imo
>>108835039zen 7 is the last am5, not the first am6
>>108835041then zen 7 it isholding out with my 5800x3d feels good knowing that they wait will be worth it
>>108834993cpu speed improves 1% and 0.1% lows
>>108834993ackshually chances are Zen 6 X3D will have 96mb and Zen 7 X3D will have 128mb of cache because the core counts are increasing.
https://devblogs.microsoft.com/directx/advanced-shader-delivery-expands-public-preview-with-amd/amd has been getting lots of good new latelymaybe that's why the schizoing is so tame in these past few threads
>>108834993name me 10 games that are even worth zen 7
>>108835196the same 10 games that are worth playing right, just buy 500hz 4k display and you'll need zen 7 to reach that fps
>>108834005>release half uncooked tv with a bunch of bugs>same thing as last year with g5s95h/s99h is technologically superior already, qdoled is literally better techif you totally want glossy sure maybeyou can even just buy a c6h instead which is pretty much the same shit this year in 77" or 83">>108834047>>108834066>>108834076>>108834764>>108834874>>108834116>>108834116qdoled already wons95h is betterimagine wanting dithering, worse color, color shift, the s95h was even brightereven with a matte screen, it's over
so, I went to >>>/wsr/1565480 and posted my specs and asked for some guidelines on what to choose as a upgrade (I want to build a new pc) wich would have a good cost/performance relation without being too expensive. For example the Core i9-14900KS seems to be 4 times the price of the Core i5-14400F, but have around 25% better performance, so I think that might not be worth it.For now these are my tentative choices:Intel Core i5-14400FIntel Core i7-14700KF (it's double the price than the i5 and around 20% better performance)I'm biased agains't AMD due personal reasons, so most likely would go for intel again, and I was wondering which combination of motherboard/GPUwould be good to go with there, to take from there which would be more convenient for me.
>>108835487>I'm biased agains't AMD due personal reasonsgross, how about the 14600k?
>>108835487250k(f) plus or the other one if you want intel right now seems like a no brainer for picescheap mobo, cheap cpu
>>108835497these appearedhttps://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-14600KF-vs-Intel-Core-i5-14600K/m2213004vs4153I'm not completely sure about this "raptor lake", a quick google search said "it works better">>108835503>250k(f) plusI'm not completely sure where can I check out the current motherboards, the last time I got one it "seemed fine" but when I added my 1060 GPU, it blocked another slot due the size.
>>108834993>the more I create a gpu bottleneck the less cpu matters>ignores cpu bound games>ignores upscaling>ignores shit game engine>everything is a thinly veiled 5800x3d poorfag cope poststop posting>>108835532any b860 or z890 board that is on sale cheap
>>108835532>>108835497Besides the "price" any reason to pick an i5 over an i7?https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-14700KF-vs-Intel-Core-i5-14600K/m2212020vs4153In this is shown the i5 one is more expensive, but I don't know if there's something I'm not taking into account (I haven't checked if there are any of these available anywhere yet, or if the prices are actually around that).
>>108835561>any b860 or z890 board that is on sale cheapthat's kind of what I did last time, it was like half the price of the "gamer motherboards" of that time, but as I said, it couldn't fit my GPU correctly and blocked another port, and also I think it may be the reason why my wifi card got fried (the heat sink was right besides the card circuits, and I think it overheat it).I want something that might not cause these issues again if possible.
https://x.com/IntelTech/status/2055388512883466331INTEL WONAYYMDEAD LOST
>>108835532>>108835564just so you know, userbenchmark is not a reliable sourcehttps://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compare_cpu-intel_core_i5_14400f-vs-intel_core_i5_14600k
>>108835597>Muh niggahertz
>>108835599>https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compare_cpu-intel_core_i5_14400f-vs-intel_core_i5_14600kDidn't know about this web, thank you, I'll use it now as a second opinion too.Is kf the same as f here?
>>108835532Pcpartpicker, ignore that faggot though, you're doing a poorfag build and he's trying to get you onto Intel's dead platform that requires upgrading to DDR5 which is expensive at the moment.https://pcpartpicker.com/products/motherboard/#s=40&sort=price&mt=ddr4
>>108835612only in the sense they both do not have internal graphicsF = no internal graphicsK = unlocked for overclockingif you want internal graphics you buy the model that has it if it is worth it to you.
>>108835578just look where the pci-e slot is placed then
>>108828618I guess it's a fat chance anyone here could help, but I'm going to give it a shot.I started hearing this random high pitched noise (https://vocaroo.com/141jFlQ6bPzs).I it drives me insane, what component could that possibly make it?Could it be fun? Power supply? Hardrive? I'm not even entirely sure it isn't a bird.
>>108835620thank you for the info again, and ... do "no internal graphics" means... I couldn't get a video signal without a separated GPU or that I just woudln't have hardware acceleration and be unable to run anything heavy without the GPU, like old PCs?>>108835613Also thank you, for now I'm not sure how good these "ASUS" are. I read some news where they had issues and many cards were getting burned due some BIOS problem which "got patched" but also got some legal notice that if you "used the patch to fix the issue" you'd lose the guarantee of the card.Which brands are reliable nowadays?>>108835644going to check that out too, but I would need to know which card would I pick before that. If it has 3 fans and somehow it doesn't fit because of that, that'd also be an issue.
>>108835659>Could it be fun?*fan
>>108835661>do "no internal graphics" means... I couldn't get a video signal without a separated GPUyeah, no in built video signal out due to it not working during chip validation so they fuse it off and sell it cheaper because its really only useful for office box and noobs who can't diagnose a motherboard without video out. >Which brands are reliable nowadays?they're all pretty much their own flavor of shit
>>108835686>yeah, no in built video signal out due to it not working during chip validation so they fuse it off and sell it cheaper because its really only useful for office box and noobs who can't diagnose a motherboard without video out.sorry, I'm not smart enough to understand this.>>108835620>K = unlocked for overclockingDoes this mean... they are the same but just "open so you can overclock them under your own risk"?I don't plan to do any overclocking, so would the other option be better or worse for me?https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compare_cpu-intel_core_i7_14700-vs-intel_core_i7_14700kAlso what does these >Thermal Management>TDP>TDP (PL2)means?My little knowledge tells me it may mean I'd need way better ventilation for the K one (but not sure if I have to overclock it myself for that).
>>108835751well you don't have to overclock if you don't want to, just leaving it at stock will have it run at stock.it is just a matter of cost, whichever is the cheaper between the K and non K version.
>>108835785but is the benchmark showing the results as stock or overclocked?
>>108835788those are both stock
r8 my upgrade path. red are new
>>108835820>939.99I'm glad you're shitposting
>>108835875Greetings to 2023
I'm still using ddr3 ram...can someone give me a summary of the difference between ddr4 and ddr5 in performance?I already saw that ddr5 is way more expensive (a 32gb being more expensice than a good CPU).
>>108835892the difference can be 5% fps loss in game, varies between games and types of cpus used, what hz ramon am5 if you use an x3d cpu you can get away with slightly worse ddr5 ram because x3d helps, but on non-x3d amd cpus or intel chips you lose more fps with worse ramThe bigger difference can be that people typically had 16gb ddr4 and they upgraded to 32gb ddr5 which helps avoid issues.
>>108835906I'm on 16gb ddr3 atm, I saw a 32gb ddr4 being half the price of a 32gb ddr5 of the same brand.not sure what this SODIMM, DIMM or UDIMM means yet.What I noticed is the ddr4 being 3200MHz and the ddr5 5600MHz, I'm guessing it's almost "double" and so the price, but I may be wrong on that.
what's the current q6600/2500k
>>108835929am4 is pretty dead as platform since amd hasnt released new x3d cpus for ittypically there isnt much to think about, just buy 32gb 6000mhz cl 30 ddr5 and move on. Now its a guessing game of will prices go down soon or never
>>1088359799800X3D
>>108836002how long until it's under 50$ or free e-waste
>>10883602910 years
>>108836055tnx, added the event in my google calendar
>>108835487so after all the answers, I think I understand a bit more on how the components are.For now I'll evade the K, and F processors. I don't want to have to buy the heat sink separately, and may install the GPU later. I'm thinking about the i5 and i7https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compare_cpu-intel_core_i5_14600-vs-intel_core_i7_14700sadly none of them are currently available on my country, nor for shipping atm to my area.I'm not completely sure in which order I should pick my components. For now I think I'll pick the CPU first, then the motherboard for it and then the GPU and ram. I'm not sure which limits these CPU have for ram type. Last time I had to check the "bus" to see the limit of the Hz it could handle from the ram and such.
>>108836083thank me in 10 years as i'll probably still be posting here
>>108836100you're very optimistic to believe there is private PC building in 10 years. Or we'll be merged with the chink shit general.
Just give me a job so I can move to a permanent residence, wage slave a bit, buy top end hardware, relax, then I will reconsider my plans againI just need to relax
>>108836193how would you relax while being employed and having to spend most of your time working, going to work and back, maintain your ability to work with buying groceries and exercising etc. while not saying anything online that would look bad for your employer and worshipping jews by voting for american political parties?
>>108836209way easier to go and wageslave and know you are getting money every month instead of relying on social services or something else to rape me every month and never having money to eat or consume anything else constantly penny pinching and just living in anguishdon't post anything onlinenot american so that is not a problemwhere im coming from waging is relaxing in comparison
What should I buy to build a 1000€ (Germany) or less for a small form factor PC for playing 4k films? I'd like SSDs or Nvme if I can afford it but not HDDs.
>>108836096>ssdI forgot about the hard drive...anything I should take into account for the ssd?
Today, advanced shader delivery is supported on select titles, with more coming soon. Here is the list of current supported games:Ark Survival AscendedAvowedCall of Duty: Black Ops 6Clair Obscur: Expedition 33ControlDead Island 2Deep Rock GalacticFarming Simulator 25ForspokenFinal Fantasy XVIForza Horizon 5Forza MotorsportGears of War: ReloadedGears TacticsGrounded 2Grand Theft Auto V EnhancedLies of PMetro ExodusMicrosoft Flight Simulator 2024Monster Hunter RisePersona 3 ReloadResident Evil 2 (2019)Resident Evil 3S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of ChornobylSea of ThievesSniper Elite: ResistanceSouth of MidnightThe Elder Scrolls: Oblivion RemasterNinja Gaiden 4The Callisto ProtocolThe Outer Worlds 2Silent Hill fKeeperHogwarts Legacy
>>108836324thanks, amd
>>108835661What is your budget? You might as well get the Intel 200 CPUs (Arrow Lake) if you're buying DDR5 memory.This is the Arrow Lake build, you can upgrade to the 270K if you want.https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GrHwzvIt makes no sense to buy costlier Raptor Lake refresh chips (14th gen) anymore.https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Fd6Yg3
>>108835820Poor value for money upgrade, especially since that 4070 Super will be the performance bottleneck.If you're on AM4, get a 5600, 5700X, or 5800XT and a 3200MT/s CL16 memory kit.
>>108836667>Intel Core Ultra 5 250K PlusDang... I didn't even know something like these existed, for me the "i-something" were the only option, thank you for the info.What's the difference with the i5 and where can I get more info about these?
>>108836305You should check the drive's endurance (TBW) specs to get an idea of how much cumulative writes the SSD is expected to handle.The warranty for the Samsung 870 EVO 2TB for example lasts up to five years or 1,200 TB total writes https://download.semiconductor.samsung.com/resources/data-sheet/Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_Data_Sheet_Rev1.1_230509.pdfThat Samsung drive is probably the best SATA SSD that is decently supplied atm.It's hard to give you NVMe recommendations without knowing your local prices.In the US, Crucial NVMe drives are priced somewhat competitively compared to others.Micron will stop making these consumer products, but they're wealthy enough to refund you the cost of the SSD if you need to RMA one of their Crucial drives.
>>108836778>What's the difference with the i5The Core Ultra CPUs are newer products, Intel rebranded everything. Probably because the numbers were getting too big.https://www.techpowerup.com/308061/intel-confirms-core-i-getting-replaced-by-core-ultra-for-upcoming-meteor-lake-processors>where can I get more info about these?https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-ultra-5-250k-plus/https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-ultra-7-270k-plus/
>Remember clear as day shortages begun around nov-december and the prices of ram increased>Sandisk stock made a 3400% increase last year and it was plenty of time to buy in Nov-Decanyone made a 3400% on Sandisk memory stonks?
>>108836850thanks, it seems the Intel Core Ultra 7 270K Plus is available and cheaper than the core i7 I was thinking, I'm not sure if this is the "best one atm" or what, but seems pretty good, I'll keep checking these and I hope they are compatible with some good GPU and ram. I'm not sure if it has some "bus limit" to check up to how many Hz the ram can go, or if this is something the motherboard will handle.
>>108836895Most of us don't understand the scale of this data center expansion, but you should definitely ride the coattails of those who do.DCA if you're worried about exposure to downside risks & keep stock/options gambling funds separate from your responsible investment portfolio.I bought some Intel shares when they were under $20 last year, and a bit more after the US government bought some.
>>108836934>I'm not sure if it has some "bus limit" to check up to how many Hz the ram can go, or if this is something the motherboard will handle.Your budget will most likely the memory speed bottleneck for that CPU & motherboard platform, these chips can easily run 8000MT/s.Don't use more than two DDR5 memory sticks if you care about high speeds.
>>108836934>Core Ultra 7 270K Plus doesn't include heat sinkwhere and which am I supposed to get for these?
>>108837054You shouldn't need anything more than a Pure Rock Pro 3.https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3cHp99/be-quiet-pure-rock-pro-3-596-cfm-cpu-cooler-bk042If that's too much for you, Thermalright Phantom Spirit is cheaper but the fans probably won't last as long.https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GpbRsY/thermalright-phantom-spirit-120-se-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-ps120se
>>108836974that is why I was recommending he stay on DDR4
>>108837086>https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3cHp99/be-quiet-pure-rock-pro-3-596-cfm-cpu-cooler-bk042how can you tell which cpu cooler is good for which CPU?I don't wanna find out it is "too small" or "too big for the processor or the cabinet later either.
>>108837104There are hardware reviewers that run these coolers through high power draw torture tests.If you're asking all these questions, it's almost certain you don't need that 270K to sustain 250W power draw for your computing needs.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12S_vPc6bX0
>Not buying an aio in 2026
>>108837156Thank you, but what I mean is how can I tell if that cooler actually works with that processor?I mean, the one I see available in my "local" store says it's a LGA1851 socket (not completely sure what this means, I guess it's the size or something), but the cpu cooler description the other anon gave doesn't say which socket it's for, so I wonder if I need to check out the motherboard, the cabinet or anything else too.
>>108837200lga 1851 is the same mount at 1700
>>108837200>Pure Rock Pro 3.The product's official spec sheet will list compatible CPU sockets, LGA 1851 is the socket for 270K & Core Ultra 200 CPUs.https://www.bequiet.com/en/cpucooler/5600Trustworthy online shops will also list socket compatibility information in the product page.It's a good habit to check the official product pages and their specifications, it sort of shows which companies are running a serious business.
>>108837200And this is how you check which CPU socket the 270K Plus belongs to.https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/245692/intel-core-ultra-7-processor-270k-plus-36m-cache-up-to-5-50-ghz/specifications.htmlThis information should be disclosed in store product pages as well.https://www.amazon.com/Intel%C2%AE-CoreTM-Processor-270K-P-cores/dp/B0GMLJCBBM
>>108837258>>108837258>>108837258
>>108836958>Check intel now>I told everyone to consoom intel last year too>5x'd>an easy 2x+ even if you were lateEasiest consoom of ones life tooI could have made money there too consooming, but since I am not commited into puting cash into my account yet (I have no job, no reocurring revenue)I cannot consoomedIf I was in an opportunity to consoom it, I would have made money tooBut I have to live off wellfare if things are bad then my gains would have been for nthingI can't investmaxx
>>108828640WTF is this shit
>>108837450Just a rage baiting shitpost of some attention whore pretending to receive the older Steam Controller.
>>108837486It looks like ass