Looking for perspective from more experienced folks. I'm a mid-level software engineer at an F100. In a casual 1:1, my direct manager told me he personally loves AI and made it clear he views me not using it as a negative. He did add that he couldn't formally hold it against me in my performance review. The issue is this runs directly to what upper management and the CEO have said in every company-wide message, which is basically "use AI, get better at it, apply it to your work." I walked out of that conversation kind of stuck not knowing what to do. How would more senior engineers handle this?

First for laugh at apple-let cuck

>>109086936
How much do you think Olanrewaju Akano's business rakes in every year

>>109086958
Reddit repost?

>>109086965
At least 3 chickens.

>>109086958
They told you what to do, what’s the problem?

>junior helpdesk money
>"contracted" by some slave whippers to the main company
>keep coming in 5-15 minutes late because I have a 40 fucking minute commute and my shift starts at 6 am
>supervisor told me he doesn't care
>manager told me she doesn't care (but it's probably an issue)
>slave whipper contracting company calls me
>"ermm you gotta fix this otherwise you're fired next week"
I almost want to keep being late just to see if they actually fire me, I know the company I'm working at would throw a shitfit about it lmao

nigga why can't we just discuss my past project, experiences, behavioral situations and possible credentials and certifications like EVERY OTHER JOB. Why do you need to make sure I can solve retarded shit that has nothing to do with the job?

>>109086958
... You use AI.
Claude Code and Cursor are genuinely useful

>filling out an sf86
actual humiliation ritual

probably heard this 1000x before but I'm so burnt out of the AI craze. nobody has any use cases for it and I'm so fucking tired of playing "creating problems to solve" for the business + I don't like how companies (my team specifically) is relying WAY too much on vibe coders/outsourcing/AI bullshit.
>Make a simple script If variable = X then do Y?
NO!!!!!!!!! BAD!!!!
>Vibe code a bunch of agents using no code tools while having no failsafe or actual understanding of WHAT the fuck the agents even do except what we think it says. If Variable = X then do Y YESSS oh actually Variable Z kinda looks like X so I'll do Y too!!!!
YES GOOOOOODDDD!!!!!!

What the fuck is wrong with management jesus christ.

>>109086936
At the age of 40 years, if you are not fantasizing about being an employee. Bro, you have never ran a real business.

>>109086958
Anyone asking for advice on the internet is either trying to be a funny troll or is actually a total retard.

>>109086958
a senior engineer would just automate that shit:
write a few scripts that tokenmax and run them a few times each day.

>>109087573
Why are luddites so willfully ignorant. There are thousands and thousands of use cases for it. You used gpt3 to code three years ago one time and still think it's never improved

>>109087598
sure vibe coding is one thing. relying SOLELY on agents is so fucking retarded for the cases we're doing especially if we need accurate data.

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How are recruiters real bro
Like how the fuck can you sit there on an hour long call with someone talking bullshit about your daily life, giggling, stringing them along, knowing full well there is zero intention of giving them a job? After they've poured their heart out to you and gone through the pitch and qualifications, multiple technical rounds, somehow you have the stomach to send them an automated rejection email and deny them feedback? Can't even spend 10 minutes to tell them "we had a better candidate" or "you didn't do well in this area"
In what fucking lab do they make these psychopaths?

>>109087598
>luddites
Just shut up dude. You have no idea what you're talking about.

>>109087603
>nobody has ANY use cases
>OK except for an extremely large use case, but that doesn't count

the practical use cases for AI are replacing the pajeet slave class but companies don't want to do that

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>>109087666
You're in the wrong general
>>>/g/utwg/

can we melt all boomers into biofuel already

Why not learn AI. Worst case you learn it and then it gets shut down (lol) and you keep working. Do you really think AI is gonna go away and they're gonna fire everyone who used it?

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Friday,
>Weekends cannot hurt you.
>Weekends for tech people need cancellation so they don't cause depression and an hero tendencies

>>109087845
unemployedtards think that AI is simultaneously useless and the sole reason they are unemployed

I think AI is cool but overcomplicated AI solutions for simple shit is fucking stupid. That's what I'm getting at, why is this fucking AIjeet have a fucking mental attack?

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>hear about team restructuring from lead in the morning
>have one on one meeting with manager (of the team being restructured) in the afternoon
>bring up the restructuring
>"What? I didn't hear about this"
>silence
>his face vs MFW realizing he's getting fired

>>109087866
lmao

>>109087869
>>109087866
Kekarooni

>>109087640
Women do cunty shit all the time. They're also sales people, who are slimy generally. They literally bask in it and almost exclusively are friends with other sales people because normal people don't want to be close to them.

With that said, you're pouring your heart out to a recruiter? What?

thank god black people are giving me the day off tomorrow

>>109087862
That's not an unreasonable take. Its usefulness is overblown and thus clueless companies think they can get away with hiring fewer people. From the employed side of the fence, there's absolutely a squeeze going on to shit out as much code as possible regardless of whether or not it's good code or even whether or not you need the features you're crapping out with AI. Business/product fags at already failing companies just see more code being churned out and think that means their skeleton crew of overworked engineers is doing just fine and they don't need to hire anyone else. And then that skeleton crew has no choice but to churn out more garbage to survive.

>>109087864
No such thing, the term is AI Chad. Also proof you have seen an overcomplicated AI solution?

>>109087573
I'm just sick of my job going from actual problem solving to exclusively reviewing code I didn't write. Feels like every day nowadays is reviewing several multi-page code reviews, and anytime I catch something the person who wrote it just says "nah Claude says it's safe to do this so we're fine." What's the point of even trying?

why does my employer want me to submit face scans and government id to panopticon tech bro startups all of a sudden after nearly a decade of employment?

>>109088209
they're going to determine your case by facial recognition LLM

>>109088214
caste*
FUCK I've been doomed to the permanent dalit undercaste

>>109087610
You trying to watch porn on your trip on the company laptop? Wtf is wrong with you. Just buy a cheap 6 pound laptop and carry both, this isn't the 90s.

>>109088216
I don't know anything about caste systems except that there is one where everyone I've worked with that was from that caste both let me know and was an insufferable piece of shit.

>>109088306
yeah dalits are like that

>>109086936
I never understood this hustle bustle logic. If everyone 40+ were employers then there would be more employers than employees and it would not work out

I regret making this my career and want to quit my job

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This showed up in my Youtube recommendations today.

>>109086958
Redditors make up stories like this to try to antagonize AI. You WILL get fired if you don't use AI and your coworkers do.

>>109088378
they're all the same anon, every last one

>>109088439
are you a tired woman?

>>109088564
No. :-(

>>109088568
i could treat you like one?

i am a tired incel

>juneteenth is a federal holiday
fuck

>>109088606
you can still work from home all day schizo

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>dropped out of community college 3 times because menial schoolwork is too hard for me
>starting a $110K+ fully remote job in 3 weeks
>got the job because i am a linux freak and i actually know how to program (and being very lucky ngl desu honestly)
>meanwhile there are masters degree holders that are unemployed

autistic retards will inherit the earth

>>109088630
im waiting on my clearance to process, retard

>>109087154
helldesk contracting was fun
>you have to start at 8am
>I did
>but you aren't logged in
>how would I be logged in at exactly 8am?
>you turn the computer on and login before
>That sounds like work
>uhm
The other shithole MSP which I will name as Datacom was caught timing bathroom breaks and basically being mega evil. I would have loved some asshole to try that conversation with me shithole company I worked for which I cannot name due to a legal agreement but is 3 letters long.

>>109088869
Datacom as one of the other shithole companies in my state I should clarify.

>>109088268
Not him but every tech job I've been given local admin which means no matter how embedded the spyware is you can fuck with the NTFS permission and disable all monitoring software.
I worked for the feds so the monitoring wasn't allowed but they did start pushing a piece of shit SASE which I did disable.

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>3 months into the job
>doing 90% of the same work as my boomer supervisor that's been here for 15 years
>but getting paid half his salary
how is this legal? zoomers need to collectivize and ban boomers from working or voting

>>109088899
If you're confident after 3 months say you got a government offer for +30K or something and see if they counter. If they counter at or below or not at all just fucking leave.

>>109088837
You absolutely in no way got the job because you "are a linux freak" and I absolutely promise you that compared to 90% of (true) /g/ users, your programming skills are like a monkey's compared to carmack (not to say carmack is particularly impressive).

>>109088963
you are 11 years old

>>109088998
Whatever helps you sleep at night, nepobaby pajeet.

>>109088899
>how is this legal?
You accept it don't you? That's how it's legal.

>>109088143
The term is dumb nigger you dumb fucking nigger. Kys.

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>be me
>retarded failure burnout wanted to kms
>finally got an on site IT monkey job
>lowest of the low
>dalit caste tier
>be affable and pleasant to the people i help, dress well, smell nice
>have fun doing rounds and doing irl help, chatting and seeing people and their issues
>best part of my day is when i get to go on site to fix an issue
>replace keyboard on ladies workstation because it had a faulty power cable
>thanks for replacing my keyboard anon, it was really bugging me, i hope you have an awesome weekend :)
>people are nice to me

feelsgoodman. i may be a loser but i'm havin fun

>>109089251
>power cable on workstation doesn't work
>replaces the keyboard

she's being nice to you because you're functionally retarded and they feel bad for you

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>>109089251
Proud of you, anon. Keep up the good work.

>>109088899
Boomers had the easiest life ever in history and they are determined to both pull up the ladder behind them and burn the bridge after passing it.
They will make sure you don't get near as much as they do, especially if you're capable.

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I should just put my phone on do not disturb on vacations man, I never learn. No phone call is important enough for me to pick it up when I'm off and I'm not expecting a phone call. I don't care if my 194 year old elderly grandma died of breast cancer as she also got hit by a truck while climbing a ladder, I'm in my league of legends lobby playing norms while second screening 2ndJerma. Fuck normalfags. I'm living my best life and you're not going to ruin it for me any more.

>>109089254
bro just delete your post, we'll pretend we didn't see

>>109089408
Anon, not the other poster but he's right.

Out of college i got a job but was laid off after 1 year exactly. Now im on my second job and its fully remote. I have been there 7 months. I do like the job and the company so honestly i dont really wanna leave but literally everyone i know keeps saying how remote is bad for your future ans your career development. Lets say i decide to leave for this reason. Would it be better to try and leave now (after i find a new offer odcourse), or wait until i complete 2 years so i dont look like a job hopper.

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It's not even halfway through Friday,but there are tasks stacking that are both for Monday and for now, but it's hot and I am too tired to do anymore. Also done 5 calls already and I had enough human interactions for a day.

>>109089536
just use ai

Is it okay to not wear a shirt during an interview?

>>109089542
Not a code sub-monkey.

>>109089552
make it so

>>109086958
why does he even know that you don't use AI for a fact, retard?
did you explicitly state you don't use it despite contradictory instructions from top-level management?

GM, hopefully I get isekai'd today

>>109089552
>warping your entire identity around the tools you use
classic /g/tard

>>109089615
i figure slop corpos track everyones token usage

>twg:
>OMG MY BOSS IS ASKING ME TO SLOP IT UP AN HOUR A DAY... UGH I HATE MY JOB!!!

>utwg:
>>109087940
>>109079150

>>109089933
kek

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Do you guys value money or personal development more?

I earn a ridiculous amount of money working part time while in university. But I do not feel any personal growth (from either university or work).

I kind of want to quit and just spend a year doing my own thing. I could do it, I have more than enough money to be able to sustain it, but at the same time I don't want to fuck up my future career prospects by having an employment gap during my uni time.

Especially now that the job market seems completely fucked, it feels like a risky choice to quit just because I don't feel like I develop even though it pays 6 figures for part time remote work. Just because I don't feel like I develop.

>>109090022
My order is:
>130k+
>Chill job with nice coworkers
>Personal development

>>109090022
How do you earn anything more than min wage while in uni though?

>>109090038
I'm retarded as fuck and did competitive programming ever 8th grade before entering high school.

Got to know some of the sponsors of those competitions and got offered jobs.

Worked for like 2 years after high school before entering uni as well. So asked my boss to let me go part time while studying and they agreed.

>>109090061
ever since 8th grade*

See, retarded.

>>109089933
Believe it or not but some people love what they do and they don't want jack off to lolis all day.

>>109090061
Why do people like you get these opportunities when I have similar stories except I've been at it longer and done far more to no avail? It's not fair!

>>109090061
ok but can you implement a sparse table

>>109090079
Do you win the competitions?

>>109090086
In one case I got first place in an AI programming competition. Usually get top 3 but not top 1 in competitive programming (except once but it was within the school only).

>>109089627
It's not about tools, it's about not being a coder at work.
The thing is that ai is bad at almost anything that isn't coding.
Basically, code-dude bros created a bubble around themselves that removes any activity that isn't coding and that's where ai fails and fail to acknowledge that.

I will go even step further, and claim that llms being good at programming proves that code monkeys were literally rewriting worthless "code" over and over again, as a means to translate human expectations into computer language. Literally tech version of English majors doing copywriting.

>>109090090
>AI programming competition.
holy larp

>>109090092
But llm's are total garbage at even basic programming.

>>109090094
Not everyone on this board is 12, timmy. The world existed long before all muh ai became LLMs . Ever heard of shit like deep blue? You know videogames have things called "AI" and have had that forever?

>>109090090
>AI programming competition
See that's your problem lol..

But in all seriousness, you probably just need to talk to the sponsors more. And make an actual professional CV and look approachable.

If you get within the top ~3-5 consistently, don't look like a fat nerd (take a shower, shave, dress nice but not overly cringe dressed) and talk with people you will get offered jobs.

Or reach out. First job I got I applied for. Second, was offered to me by the sponsors.

Also compete in nationally or, even better, internationally recognized competitions and not just local

>>109090100
>my larp is totally real and super esoteric
ok dude can you even implement a heap

>>109090114
It's too late for that now but no matter how good I did, I was never going to be allowed by my parents to compete anywhere not local. They preferred spending money on my siblings, but I had to rely on sneaking into the adult section of the public library to read programming books (don't ask why it was in the adult section, I don't know either. But the librarian laughed at me when I asked if I could get in the legit way and I didn't understand why for years). The only computer time I got was at school computers during lunch time. I had also checked and none of these competitions had any funds to accommodate competitors who wouldn't otherwise afford to come either. It's why I was sticking to local stuff.

>>109090096
LLMs are garbage (at everything).

>>109090126
unlucky dude. Guess the secret step 0 is come from a supportive family

>>109090135
love coming here, it gives me all the retarded takes I wouldn't get otherwise

>>109090147
Meh, at least it's hopefully good advice (meaning reproducible and not a one-hit wonder) for the other fags in these threads.

Another thing that helped is not graduating in the middle of a financial crisis I guess (i.e. for getting a job out of highschool and similar).

To answer your initial question though: university has 2 main goals. Get the paper to qualify for things you will be glass ceiling'd by otherwise, and network with rich people who can set you up for things.
My recommendation is to not quit uni for now. Do your own stuff on the side and use the fact you're in uni still as a status item you can pull from: either find people through uni to support you depending on what you're doing (e.g. do a startup and find a cofounder, find a classmate who has a rich dad who can angel invest, etc.), use your 'I'm in uni and ready to dropout' stance to get into YC, etc. or, if you're thinking of just doing your own thing for fun with no commercial bend, then you should first get the piece of paper before you go that route as a safety measure.
You're in a good situation where you already have work experience and a job so it's not as critical, but the market can turn and you could be in a situation where you have, say, 10 yoe but can't get a job because they all require you have a degree first, and your company is letting you go because of financial troubles. The paper will help, though just a bit.

But if you see uni as a way to develop yourself, you're definitely doing it wrong. As for having an employment gap during uni, normal uni students don't get jobs and nowadays have a hell of a time even getting an internship. You're already way ahead. Just tell a future employer you quit your job because you wanted to focus on uni, if that's what you were planning. It's after uni that it's a problem.

>>109090135
It’s great at a few things, and very very few things are enterprise levels of useful, but yeah it’s mostly scamjeet tech the way its being peddled.

LLMs are actually the perfect solution to moderating bad behavior in text, and also detecting bots in vidya. Bad behavior and bots always evolve and building a static solution to these things doesn’t work. Oh faggot is filtered? I will type f@ggot and bypass it!!! Oh wait… an LLM can tell that’s still a slur without specifically instructing it to. Same with bots having much lower levels of behavioural entropy than real humans do. If any anti-cheat solution is bypassed on a technical level, an LLM will still be able to detect a bot.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=dN65cvzI5nc

>>109090135
Shh, you'll wake up the aitoddlers. They'll cry all over the thread again.

my head hurts nigguh
these niggas trynna put smoke into my head AND SHIT man

>>109090204
The thing is we can largely do that without LLMs as well. I agree with your overall premise that LLMs are ideal for a lot of use cases (that we don't use them for at all), especially related to text/language tasks (surprising I know!), despite most attempted uses revolving around reasoning tasks. But what has happened at the dawn of LLMs is largely that the layman has finally figured out that computers can automate things, not so much that LLMs can do things we couldn't do before but that people didn't realize what computers could do for some reason.
Also in the case of word filters and filter bypasses, it isn't actually about preventing people from saying bad words per se, it's about providing a mechanism to inform people it is not something the game wants you to do while ensuring that you don't get stuck due to moderation mishaps from more complex systems. Thus, further violations by attempted bypasses can be reported and get you banned because you had to go through the trouble of trying to bypass a known filter. There will always be bypasses even when using LLMs. Zoomers already do extensive bypasses on, say, tiktok. "pdf file" instead of pedo and so forth. People will go so far as to invent entirely new languages if they have to.
It's the same reason why we have had superhuman game AI for decades for most game types (not video-driven/image-driven input, which is the things the dota playing bots are doing and the atari games gauntlet is about and shit), but we never use them because that doesn't provide a fun experience that designers can easily work with to design the right game fun.

In other words, you're framing the problem wrong in the first place. A classic mistake.

I think im sleepwalking into a really cushy job that i dont really want

>>109090207
>>109090135
dumb luddites

I got passed over for a promotion based on vague feedback like, "Hmm... yeah... you have some points to improve; we can discuss it next time..."
Meanwhile, my official performance reviews always list my scores near the maximum. Nobody ever tells me about any areas I need to improve, not even my manager. This is fucking bullshit, I hate the corporate side of work.

>>109090383
Welcome to my entire professional career. Except I'm never 'near the maximum', I'm so far beyond the maximum I get constant commendation for going above and beyond and 'wearing all the hats' and being (quote from the CEO of the latest company I was in) "the most capable person I've ever worked with" all that bullshit.

I mean this is REALLY a unique type of burn out that everyone is going towards with the AI craze lol. This will literally be a case study in the future. How do you even succeed in this since the obvious advice of "meh put your head down and keep throwing together slop, don't try your best and just slop everything" is going to fuck with you hard. I mean the usual advice for work is just "do the best you can and try to be proud of your work" but lol lmao that's not doable now a days.

>company normally posts all their jobs on linkedin, indeed, job boards, etc
>not this one
>apply online directly through their website, found it while checking out other jobs
>get a reply 2 days after asking for an interview
>recruiter is light in the details and says "we'll tell you when you get there"
why do they do this? its clear this is an internal job listing and they already have someone else lined up. why waste my time

>>109087640
nigga why the fuck are u giggling and having deep talks in recruiter calls??

>>109090466
how prevalent is ai psychosis shit actually? in my corpo decision is left to individuals and teams on how or if to use it. If someone tries to merge garbage they'll get shit either way

>>109090589
tbf I'm in a business unit that doesn't really code. A lot of their current operation are done via no code software or really tedious manual shit. I came in the role to speed things up making scripts and shit but my execs have completely flipped the script and now it's overcomplicating solutions with AI and use AI AI THIS AI THAT AI AI AI AI?
>SIMPLE SCRIPTS TO DO IF X THEN Y
NOOOOOOOOO
>AI AGENTS TO DO IF X THEN Y
YESSSSSSSSSS
>Our no code tools are introducing AI???
USE IT RIGHT AWAY (it's garbage and doesn't add anything and overcomplicates shit and we have to worry about credits and it breaking)
I'm just completely getting burnt from this. Doesn't help that an outsourcing team is creating a enterprise wide solution to be essentially a "chatbot" and one stop station for everything and it's all just agent mumble jumble when we don't have the starting foundation or workflows even set in stone. It's a mess, I'm trying to leave but the job market hasn't exactly been great to me right now....

That literally has nothing to do with /twg/. Is it just bots that do this shit?

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This is impossible

>>109090670
India is to IT what Japan is to Anime now. Talking about IT without talking about India is an oxymoron.

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just remembred how i made it to the last round of interviews in a really good company where i was tasked to make a full stack app in 1 week and i spend 80 hours that week working on it but then i failed because i didnt know how to present what i worked on
now im stuck at a shitty IT job and trying to find a way to get out and find a dev job

its so brootal

>>109090678
It's rough. I'm a senior with 5YOE and I have NEVER got a single interview this year. I must've reworked my resume like 6x already.

Not really, I'm just thinking can we not? I want this general to just be about work and work industry related. Don't make this be some gay /pol/ shit.

>>109090724
hating indians isn't political incorrect, so it's not /pol/ by simple definition of what the board is
the indian plague on the tech and IT industry is work industry related

It's not. I do agree outsourcing and low quality work is a problem but let's be honest here, you're probably not blaming the right people here. I have no idea why you're so scared or brainwashed NOT to blame THEM instead.

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>>109090718
>6x
I did like 40 and only got 3 interviews in 2 months

>>109090755
I blame both the indians and them equally, there's plenty of room in my heart to hate both
just because there are multiple problems doesn't mean indians aren't one of them

>officer handling my clearance is working on juneteenth
GOD BLESS PRESIDENT TRUMP, WOKE IS OVER!

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>>109090734
this. Indian plague is interfering in technology fields and requires a technological solution, therefore it's on topic in /g/

>>109086965
With an oscillating fan that nice, he must be pulling in hundreds of dollars a week.

>Support an application
>One of the integration components isn't working and I need the team to figure out why that is.
>submit a ticket
>end up receiving the ticket to investigate
anyone want to strangle their level 1/help desk?

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>>109090342
Oh no, the aitard is angry.

so if i get a clearance am i going to be stuck doing bullshit government related work for the rest of my life at every company i apply to, or will i actually be able to work on real projects again

>>109091335
I managed to get out of government work. I no longer have a clearance.

>>109091335
nobody's gonna sponsor your shit anyway theres 10 million veterans that already are cleared that have bullshit degrees that can do the work just as poorly.

>>109091350
do you regret going into gov work? i have no other options right now and these guys are offering me a 3 year contract. my hope is to ride off the shit job market until it gets better

>>109091351
L bozo i already filled out the sf86 hahaah

>>109091373
mods... kill the spook ass nigga.. thank you

>>109086958
> muh ceo said use AI

just start pasting shit into copilot and pretend you're using it. they can't tell the difference and you keep your job.

>>109091355
I was a contractor and worked on military satellite stuff. It was pretty cool for a while, but got old. I do miss that work though.
Then I transferred to a different contract that did IT stuff and was so incredibly dull I nearly lost my mind. It was a butt-in-seat kind of role, where they needed someone in case something went wrong; the rest of the time I sat there and read the news. Often for months at a time with nothing happening. I left gov work after that. Though it was a gradual process, I had to move to a company that did commercial and gov work, but was more known for its commercial products, as a transition. After that, I was able to do normal tech work.

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How do I solve this? input size is 150,000 queries btw

>>109091402
were you a software engineer? why couldnt you just leave gov work and apply for regular shit immediately after the satellite job

>>109087164
> because 90% of candidates lie through their teeth about their "past projects" and "credentials"

leetcode is a shit filter but it's the only one they've got

>"anon we acknowledge your growth and decided to promote you to a senior developer"
>"your bonus is 10%"
are you shitting me? it's clear they'll pin x5 more responsibilities and for measly 10% higher pay? delusional
i accepted with a smile and that shit but already looking for a new job

>>109091445
>>109087164
Just become a technical program manager, there's no leetcode and the interview is just about who can bullshit more

>>109091405
ask claude brother
nobody does leetcode grinds no more

>>109091459
retard

>>109091400
inb4
>AI providers give an AI overview of employee queries alongside token use stats
your response?

>>109091435
A lot of regular commercial companies have a huge distrust for people who worked in government or for government contractors.

>>109091471
my company already does this

>>109091472
For obvious reasons, government workers are renowned for their profound incompetence, and given the absolute state of modern commercial companies' teams...

>>109087164
>why can't we just discuss my past project, experiences, behavioral situations and possible credentials and certifications
Because you can lie and forge certifications
>Why do you need to make sure I can solve retarded shit
Because bullshitting this in real time while hiding AI use is harder.

>>109091450
10% is very good. Senior means junior but for a long time. Kill yourself.

>>109091472
>>109091533
awesome lol
>stay underemployed
>be unemployable in 2 years

>get a gov job to gain experience
>become even more unemployable

>>109091545
no it doesn't senior = staff

>>109091545
10% is to keep up with inflation
this is not a bonus, it's an insult

>>109091539
But no other job in the world is like this and other jobs are 1000x more bullshittable. For example, you can't ever bullshit having encountered a hairy problem that only happens in production systems but are never talked about because it's considered too specific in the public sphere. Why can't we just chat about these things instead of meme leetcode which has 0 to do with the job and has been shown to be negatively correlated with work performance.

>>109086958
Use AI—you're stealing time from your employer if you don't. Not using AI is literal sabotage.

>>109091554
Staff is called staff, cretin.

>>109091557
>>109087164
total fraudie death
go find some other field if you want to talk your way into a job
I fucking LOVE live coding interviews
put the fucking leetcode hards in front of me and let me work

>>109091567
proof?

>>109091573
autist

>>109091581
die, normgroid

>>109091573
Go solve >>109091405
Timer starts now even though you have already had that in front of you for a while. If you're not done within 30m (no cheating allowed, though I know you will cheat) then you will have revealed you're the biggest fraud to ever grace these threads.

>>109091595
you will be made a forward deployed engineer, this is my curse to you

>>109091459
smart and based

>>109091533
Some if it is incompetence, but metrics for success are so different in government. In commercial, companies NEED to make money, so the employee's job is to help the company make money. Or at the very least, convince your management that you're doing helps the company make money more than what your coworkers do. (What you do may look/seem more helpful than it actually is... but that's a whole different topic of conversation.)
Whereas in government, making money isn't the goal. It's "mission", which can mean whatever. If your team has a strong mission that you identify with, then it can actually be very motivating. But if your role is abstracted from what your work does in the real world, and you aren't being measured on anything concrete, it's natural to put in lower effort, or the wrong kind of effort.
>>109091549
No. You just stay in government. If you don't like it, try to leave quick. You can say stuff like "government work isn't for me" and some recruiters/hiring managers might actually like that.

>>109091557
>no other job in the world is like this and other jobs are 1000x more bullshittable
Maybe, but for this particular position there are thousands of applicants ready to relocate from across the world and put in 110% for less pay.
>you can't ever bullshit having encountered a hairy problem
You definitely can. You DO prepare for an interview, right? This shit is always on the agenda. If you didn't have such situations just ask AI to come up with one.
>negatively correlated with work performance
If you can solve leetcode it means you came prepared (good) or you are so good you can solve with no preparation (also good). There is no downside to demanding leetcode from the employer POV.

>>109091602
Im on lunch right now but the solution is
>find the max length of the line from the queries
>maintain a segment tree of max range intervals for all points in the range (initially at zero)
>initialize an array of max length to keep track of obstacle positions, at each obstacle keep the index of the leftmost obstacle (so you can efficiently update distance intervals), keep a sorted set so you can binary search to the leftmost obstacle quickly
>recalculate the interval and update the tree
>query the tree when you need an answer
sorry youre a brainlet

>>109091549
learn to coal mine

>>109091622
>You definitely can.
No, you can't. Try to read. Or try to have ever worked in tech in any capacity.
>There is no downside to demanding leetcode from the employer POV.
>NEGATIVELY CORRELATED WITH WORK PERFORMANCE
Stick to your government job.

>>109091665
Congrats, you have demonstrated you are the biggest fraud out there and have never had to do even one leetcode of any type for any interview.

>>109091696
holy reddit, what interviewer is asking segment tree hards? that question had a 3% acceptance rate when it came out in the bi weekly competitions

>>109091704
Everyone from the tiniest startup to the big fagmans is asking either 2 hards or 1 hard and 1 medium as a screening question, not even live. It's a stronger skew toward 2 hards during live.
The time limit is usually 30m for medium and 45m for hard.
Furthermore, you can't just have a solution. You must implement the optimal (both space and time) solution or you fail.
Explaining the solution and not implementing it is a fail. Implementing the simple solution and explaining the optimal version is a fail.
The fact you even ask this question once again reinforces you are praising something you don't have the faintest experience with. You are literally the biggest fraud around, despite the fact you cry about anyone else at all being a fraud. Even the most fraudulent bought degree pajeet is more honest than you.

>>109091730
ok give me 40 mins lol

>>109091730
From my experience if the interview is asking leetcode problems its not a real job
I've aced a few and never gotten a follow up
Real jobs ask about your experience and projects you worked on then ask you follow up questions to sus out if you're lying or not.

>>109091811
The leetcode is used at two levels: pre-screen/OA (before you ever get sent to a human at all), and again in the first part of the technical. Questions usually come after the first part of the technical, but are sometimes asked as a prelude to the technical gauntlet in shorter interview processes (the ones where you don't have a 4h interview round).

How do I negotiate for a salary as someone fresh out of college? The average salaries that I'm seeing in my city and across companies for the positions I'm applying to are $85,000+, but I feel like if I ask for anything more than $50,000 - $60,000, then I'm going to be dismissed.

>>109092088
come to albania where a senior dev makes 30k euro

>>109092101
Stop with this garbage. The only relevant metric is always: leftover money after all expenses (i.e. life expense + taxes + mandatory contributions) divided by cost of life over that period. 50k where that anon is probably gets him a ratio close to 0. I bet your 30k euros gives you a ratio close to 3.

Manager keeps asking silly questions that claude can easily answer. I use AI to respond.

He also continues to post hard to read hand written slop ("I think maybe posibly their is a way too do that") mixed with AI written idealistic and mindless slop ("Adapt to changing landscapes..."). I use AI to decipher it, and then respond.

Every time I review his work it's just sloppy text. Documentation PRs generated by AI included. No consistency or structure to it.

I can't stop feeling neurotic, and I react in often insensitive and maybe even petulant ways. I don't know. Like an ungrateful Chud.

I can't separate the fatty on screen from the manager needing professional cooperation.

My schizoid tendencies exacerbate all this.

Besides insulting me, does anyone have advice on how to transcend this poor behavior?

>>109092101
Can't be that bad. I went to Rome and a pizza there is around twelve euros for the tourists whereas in the US a pizza is at least twenty dollars.

>>109092139
First, stop using AI, it insulates you from the problem and makes it harder for you to face it. Second, there isn't too much to it except exposure and experience. Mostly you have to change your mindset. Stop putting so much importance on understanding him basically. Consider that you are getting paid to waste time deciphering what he's saying and answering him, that's the mind trick that works best for me when I'm faced with bullshit of that type.

>>109092088
IMO you don't unless you've got another, better offer in hand

>>109092171
That's true. I guess I can use the experience I'd accumulate to find a better paying job if I don't see any raises after initially lowballing myself.

>>109092168
>stop using AI, it insulates you from the problem and makes it harder for you to face it.
AI does a great job of translating slop into concise tasks I need to do. Which problem are you referring to?
>Consider that you are getting paid to waste time deciphering what he's saying and answering him
This is very useful, thank you

>>109092188
I earn 65k with 10 yoe

>>109092196
Have you tried job hopping for salary bumps? It's definitely not a meme

>>109092168
>stop using AI
Never listen to freaks like this, they are either trying to keep you out of the market for their gain, are already unemployed or soon to be.

>>109092189
>AI does a great job of translating slop into concise tasks I need to do.
Yes, that's the problem: I argue it's better to work through it because it will make you more efficient at doing this translation work without AI which becomes important when conversations move away from pure text (transferable skill). Furthermore, it is something that you'll be able to use your entire career, it's one of the few skills that are unfortunately necessary and valuable.
>Which problem are you referring to?
Having to deal with someone who can't communicate properly

>>109092196
Why don't you go somewhere else? In my area, there's a high demand for senior software engineers. It's all I see on job posting websites.

>>109092203
Yes, I started this year, already applied to 3k jobs, got interviews, and always ask for 150k+, but I'm almost the second pick, the one that came close, "it was a tough decision", always failing at the very last round after passing technical and all. This market sucks, I guess.

>>109092208
Cheers dude

>>109091471
>>109091400
I sat in on a zscaler meeting and they can already parse AI requests for company info to prevent data exfiltration.
They can and will be reading your AI conversations.

New hire came in on a fucking e-bike. How do I get him fired?

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I've decided that I want this. I will spend a few hours this weekend working on CKS

>can we connect?
why do jeets say this

>>109092340
it's what LinkedIn calls adding someone to your contact list

>>109092340
>may I meet you?
why do boomers say this

Please help me get some insight between these two offers.

Lockheed Martin
Position: Associate Software Engineer (Simulation & Modeling)
- $88k + $5k sign on
- Defense
- C++
- 4x10 schedule, every Friday off
- Secret security clearance

Fidelity
Position: Associate Software Engineer
- $85k + $7.5k sign on
- Fintech
- Java + Spring
- Currently every other week in-office, but eventually will return to office 5 days a week
- Better bonus, 401k match, and profit sharing

Which would be better for overall career growth especially as a first job?

>>109092382
Lockheed imo
the secret security clearance unlocks future defense tech roles

My nigger company implemented this AI shit to check resolution notes on the tickets. So all I do is run my shit through AI to get a perfect score. Pisses me off that they're wasting everyone's time away like this instead of doing actual important shit.

>>109092382
You have to ask current employees about how well the profit share part is working out for them at fidelity. Otherwise lockheed martin is far better. That said, for career growth, this can lock you into the defense world because a lot of people consider this morally hazardous for no reason (and hilariously enough when the same people have no problem with gambling or finance for example).

>>109092382
Lockheed sounds better. Java and Spring work seems very grey.

>>109087640
Because they do dozens of interviews every week and can't be arsed to respond to all the rejects. Plus more often than not they do actual work for the company too

>>109092415
>recruiters
>actual work
lol
>can't be arsed
Sounds about right, lazy incompetent fucks.

would working at the dod lock me out of faang? asking for a friend

>>109087640
I don't see why you'd engage in any small talk with anyone who isn't the hiring manager.

>company I want to join
>no jobs available, nothing fits my field except very niche stuff.
>companies that I should join
>absolutely hate them
welp

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>Chinese dev has a clone of scratch but with Pandas on his laptop. He actually made some projects in it.
>Indians use a super simplified children's python ide to run the code made by the said Chinese dev(s).


I'm overqualified for life.

>incoming economic meltdown in 2 months because da joooz keep bombing kids
very nice, job market is going to get even worse

>>109092239
I hope every corp that puts all their eggs in one zscaler basket gets fucked

>>109092382
>under 100k
Damn the industry really is fucked, huh? Maybe all the layoffs are to hire everyone back for cheaper

>>109092852
Actually it's because the jews are too gentlemanly to bomb kids. They could be done in 6 days like that time they solo'd the entire middle east and won, but they choose not to because they know the goyim are too dumb to understand what it takes to take out the trash.

>>109092852
not a problem for long if you could just do >>109090812 to them instead

>>109092382
locksneed probably operates a lot like Raytheon where as soon as whatever you're working on stops being funded or whatever, they force you to try and find another role or boot you, but the clearance might be worth it.

>>109092886
yall earning 6 digits?

>>109092286
do you have autism? why do you keep posting this?

>>109092900
lmao if the goyim werent there to save you from the towelheads you would've already gotten nuked

>>109093011
>you
Schizo, take your meds.

If that were true, us wouldn't have to threaten to nuke israel to force them to give back the territory they won in a defensive war started as a surprise offensive by their neighbors on a jewish holiday.

>>109093011
what's a goym

Want to resign so bad but this is worst and most uncertain market in the history of IT
>just quiet quitting
I barely do 1 hour of real work a day
Quite quitting harder would mean outright not working and I don't want to get fired for that

>>109092652
>clone of scratch but with Pandas
wdym

>>109092652
>clone of scratch
bro is actually a cracked engineer

>go to starbucks
>obese foid
>go again
>nog
>go again
>homosexual
>go again
>troon
can I get my fucking pink drink without the side of zog?

>>109092120
That's only a relevant metric if you can't afford the basic expenses - which is likely the case for all entry positions in all countries.

When I started after working school, my pay was about 700 euro per month. The rent (for a 1 room "apartment", aka a room in a cellar where people are not officially allowed to live in) was 500 euro. One of the cheapest in town.

So, just like in the US - you end up with nothing left.

Anyways, working up to senior position and after likely around 120% inflation over the 7 years, I now earn 3k/mo. I can afford rent easily (although it doubled), I can afford food easily, but anything but that is far more expensive in shitholes like those.

All the apartments are instantly bought by foreign companies and therefore the price skyrockets (1 room, 20 square meters apartment = 200k euro, 5.5 yearly wages if I somehow magically manage to spend nothing), all the electronics cost even more than in the US.

To get to my point - once you're able to afford food and rent, the absolute numbers that you have left are a very relevant metric, because there's not much of a difference in cost of things you may want between here, and in a country where the pay is five times higher.

>>109093158
you can brew the coffee and dump a glass of sugar in yourself

>>109091811
Passing leetcode was never a requirement nor is failing leetcode an automatic rejection.

>>109093272
>That's only a relevant metric if you can't afford the basic expenses
Why would it be? The ratio is most universal precisely because it encodes whether or not you're able to afford the basics and if so how much of it. The reason why the ratio is relevant is because it specifically measures access to all-but-luxury (luxury being largely priced in "international dollars" instead of "national dollars"). This means, for example: how long can you survive if you lose your job today? How many years will it take you to obtain or upgrade your dwelling? When can you expect to retire, by way of your life runway (which is exactly via the ratio)? So everything important in understanding how your life plays out, in the exclusion of leaving the country you live in.

>So, just like in the US - you end up with nothing left.
Yes, so ultimately you want to compare likes for likes, i.e. working straight out of school in both cases. I assume you mean 700 euros net and that you need to complete college to get the job (the calculus is obviously different otherwise). I also ignore the fact the american is in debt to be in the same situation as you -- this gets folded only in the ratio calculation as part of debt maintenance for the american.

Your ratio is thus maybe 100/500 (assuming a monthly "other costs" of 100, so (700-100-500)/(600)), or 0.167.

For your senior example: 2500 net, assume doubled "other costs" to 200, assumed doubled rent to 1000. That's 2500-200-1000 = 1300, / 1200 = 1.083.
This means that every month worked, you now afford more than 2 months of life. Work 20 years and you can survive with no income for another 20 years. This is a good ratio.

I think what you miss here is exactly that food and rent is astronomically higher elsewhere, so if you do the whole math you might find out that actually the leftover cash doesn't get anywhere near as far as you're getting locally. Just an example.

>>109093334
Congrats on never having worked in tech and never having interviewed in tech, but this is the /twg/ thread so you shouldn't be here.

>>109092382
Locksneed is far superior. They have so many govt contracts they will never fold. Plus, H1Bs don't get clearance so few if any SAAARs.

>>109093341
> This means that every month worked, you now afford more than 2 months of life. Work 20 years and you can survive with no income for another 20 years. This is a good ratio.

If your only metric is surviving and you don't consider inflation (which is much higher in countries with low income), then sure.

> I think what you miss here is exactly that food and rent is astronomically higher elsewhere, so if you do the whole math you might find out that actually the leftover cash doesn't get anywhere near as far as you're getting locally. Just an example.

I don't know about rent, but I've spent a month in the US. The food was about 40% more expensive than here, and that was in Vegas / LA, which I don't expect to be the cheapest places to live in.
Though the only edible food was fast food. I was surprised by the kind of slop they sell in supermarkets, the amount of sugar in basic things like "bread" made me quickly understand why everyone was so fat.

>>109092382
If you haven't already, look into what is required for getting a security clearance
I'm assuming you haven't done drugs in the past 7 years but as far as getting all your contacts its kind of a pain in the ass
Cleared roles haven't been as great since DOGE cuts

>>109093421
>and you don't consider inflation
Although these dynamics should be considered, doing so is the realm of financial modeling. I am instead interested in an easy to compute metric that gives a good picture of life quality between different countries, as the conditions are too different to rely on other numbers like just salary. The macdonald's index sounds like a good idea in theory, but isn't in practice, as I've learned by actually moving country and discovering that some macdonald's locations offer extremely cheap relative prices because they make almost no business due to the locals preferring a local clone of mcd's over the american franchise. So this serves as a kind of superior, more personalized version of a mcd index.

>(which is much higher in countries with low income)
There is 0 relation between country-wide income and inflation rate. Any such effect is caused by external dynamics. In fact, the USA inflation rate has been consistently higher than albania's the past 5 years except this year when it's tracking to be about the same, maybe a bit higher for albania.

>I don't know about rent, but I've spent a month in the US. The food was about 40% more expensive than here, and that was in Vegas / LA, which I don't expect to be the cheapest places to live in.
You might also have paid a lot more than you think you did. For example, you are used to the price being indicated with taxes included. But in the US, taxes are excluded. Some items have low or no tax, others have much higher tax. Other factors include tipping culture: not really a thing in europe, but 15 (nowadays they say 20) % is customary in the US. Actually it was supposed to be a before-tax calculation, but nowadays they only do after tax (hidden huge increase in tip size). Other things to consider include healthcare, transport, utilities, clothes... shit adds up.

>>109093347
Congrats on never having worked in tech and never having interviewed in tech, but this is the /twg/ thread so you shouldn't be here.

>>109093781
>>109093347
>>109093334
>>109091811
Leetcode is cringe. I made sure to never go through any interviews that had that poop, I earn 185k + equity after only 3 yoe, and the people I work with are super intelligent. Leetcode is for nodevs with no projects and autists who are only good at pattern memorization.

>>109093493
> There is 0 relation between country-wide income and inflation rate. Any such effect is caused by external dynamics. In fact, the USA inflation rate has been consistently higher than albania's the past 5 years except this year when it's tracking to be about the same, maybe a bit higher for albania.

I'm not from Albania specifically (that was another anon).

And apologies, I may have used a wrong term here. Inflation is a tad higher in the lower income countries than in the US as far as Europe goes, I'm sure you can look it up, but what's more important is that the wage changes.

In a low income country, you can expect the wages to dramatically increase fast.
So if 20 years ago, the average pay was 500 euro a month, now it's 2k.
That's not reflected in the inflation, as it just compares the current average pay compared to current prices of commodities.
However, if wages increase rapidly as well, your savings are kind of useless.
If I managed to save 40% of my yearly wage 20 years ago, it would be 2400 euro, which is quite close to today's average monthly wage.
With that in mind, saving up for 20 really won't mean you don't have to do anything in the next 20.

>>109093158
suburbs location.

btw black guys are actually quite chill. I stopped being racist towards them. Many in Canada are Nigerians and they were raised very religiously. The somalis? Umm ok I'll say a lot of blacks are well adjusted people who've assimilated. The blacks at universities for example. Good people

>>109093811
>I won the lottery
>Not winning the lottery is for nomaths and people without 30 years of work experience

>>109092286
how did he get hire if he wasnt having Reliable Transportation ?

>>109093988
nta but from what I hear from my friends applying most companies dropped leetcode

>>109093842
>Inflation is a tad higher in the lower income countries than in the US as far as Europe goes, I'm sure you can look it up, but what's more important is that the wage changes.
As I mentioned, I looked it up and found the opposite to be true in the case of albania.

>So if 20 years ago, the average pay was 500 euro a month, now it's 2k.
This is a totally different matter and has nothing at all to do with inflation whatsoever. I understand the confusion because finance literacy is something rare, and the financially illiterate are often tricked by the elites into thinking that high wages are bad because they mean inflation when that's not at all how it works. Inflationary effects related to increased wages are a 2nd tier effect, not 1st or 0th.
You are also confused about other concepts: there has been a worldwide trend to avoid brain drain by increasing wages vs US wages. That, too, is unrelated to inflation, and importantly is a time-limited and reactive trend, again not inherent to a specific country or its wage structure per se.

That said, in summary, your main objection is that the ratio is only useful as an immediate measure because it is only first order. That is correct, my comment previously was that I aimed to retain only a first order model because it is a tool to compare points.

I understand now however that I shouldn't have illustrated the point of the metric with an example that was predilected on a projection, because it has confused my audience. Mea culpa.

>>109093999
It's definitely far more present in the past few years though 'dropped' is a strong word.

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>there are people in school right now studying computer science and thinking they'll get a job

>>109094046
>>there are people
questionable AT BEST

>guy in org used to be really helpful, willing to collaborate on design decisions
>recently is very unhelpful, always just says to ask his manager first if I want to discuss issues with him

>>109094350
They grow up so fast. :')

I'm almost 40 ans I feel like I'm becoming more and more retarded as time passes. Plus you fags made me believe there is no future in this field. As if I already didn't think that this career was a dead end unless you are willing to do management.
I've always felt like a LARPer anyway, and I feel like my younger coworkers are way better than me.
All of this makes me feel the pressure to find semi passive ways of making money ASAP. I have some ideas, but.. None of them will help me keep my current level of income. Not that it matters much, I save most of it, but it would be nice to have a similar income.

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>>109094046
don't you understand? they are going to get a job over the 100k unemployed cs grads because they have more PASSION than other students and are way smarter. the interviewer is going to hear about how once they made a mod in roblox to groom children more effectively and they're going to stand up in their chair in astonishment adn go "holy shit... you're the man we've been looking for all these years. THIS IS... LE PASSIONATE ABOUT TECHNOLOGY. son... you're HIRED"

>>109087256
>genuinely
AI comment.

>>109094396
Just use A1?

>>109094046
yes we're playing the long game

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>>109094437
is "the long game" when you have to go back to school to retrain something useful or just the amount of time it takes you to give up a fruitless job search when your parents kick you out?

>>109094426
Esl?

>>109094428
I'm not a dev, I'm a pentester. LLMs are being used to automate everything in my field. Using LLMs is a death sentence for the whole field IMO.

>>109094437
this u?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJxObMyVHoM

>>109094449
what is wrong with boomers
>you like computers?
>well you should give up now and surrender all computer jobs to jeets and go do manual labor for 80k a year instead
no thanks, im either getting a cool cs job or leeching off the government neeting and waiting for hitler to arrive

>>109094537
hitler would have you killed for being a leech

>>109094540
hitler would've understood my struggles and empathized with my lived experience

>>109094543
incorrect. you are a PROTESTANT

>>109094537
another completely useless drag of a human that scoffs at the idea of having to do anything less than full wfh and 6 figures. hitler would have sent your ass straight to a work camp.
theres hundreds of thousands of useless sacks of shit exactly like this guy.

>>109094574
>theres hundreds of thousands of useless sacks of shit exactly like this guy.
yes and we're going to fucking rape you lmao

tgif am i right fellas

>>109094581
don't threaten niggas with a good time

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>went for a rip on the bike
>got drunk
good friday i guess

>>109094628
>bike
KILL THIS FUCKING FAGGOT NIGGER

>>109086936
why have we gated tech jobs behind non-technical retard recruiters? Who benefits from this?

>>109094715
protestants

>>109086936
>FX/crypto consultant

>>109088855
holy ai-slop text

>>109094581
when the system finally does shit the bed the illegals that live in your low income housing block are going to literally rape your fat ass and club your head in with a 2x4. assuming you dont hang yourself first.
you are a worthless bitch ass nigga anon. you serve zero purpose.

>>109094718
It's the Buddhists actually

>>109094742
incorrect. i am their main squeeze currently and keep my ass tight and clean. they will continue to not only be peaceful, but even still pay, albeit at lower rates. (lower rates are not a bother due to the collapse of the Crapitalist System and renewed threat of violence in exchange for staple goods suppressing prices)

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lol

>>109094628
>that image
I hope you get beaten to death.

>>109094792
instead of sounding mad, simply respond
>good

>>109087640
When I was a kid I was always told "watch what you post online!!!1!"

Then I get some fuckass recruiter who can't bother to look past my linkedin. Why even bother? What qualifies them to gatekeep tech jobs when they don't bother to click my website link clearly displayed on the linkedin? Or to go my github?

This cunt had the gall to state a pay band 25k larger than what is posted publicly for the job she was interviewing me for as well, and seemed surprised when I told her I was already halfway up the band in my current position. I hope she enjoys remembering me when I send her 5 follow up emails knowing full well I won't be getting any call back. No skin off my back either, just prompted the clanker to script sending emails every other day for the next week. Fuckass retarded cunt

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>get home tired
>can't stay awake
>fall asleep for 3 hours
>wake up still tired and mentally drained
>cant focus on shit
>can't fall asleep because im not tired enough
>get 2 hours of sleep before my next shift
>permanently a zombie
what did my body mean by this

>>109087845
why would you bother learning AI when you can write a 15,000 line if/else "api.php" and market it as AI? You can even use the free chatgpt to build + market it for you

>>109094836
stop masturbating

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You ever get stuck in a deadbeat job? All of my jobs have been really dead beat and I'm sorta struggling to pivot to other roles now. It sucks since I technically have like 5-7YOE but it's on nothing relevant (almost everything was no code or company relevant tools) and none of the companies I worked for (despite being BIG NAMES) did best practice on anything. I've been trying to see where to pivot but it feels like everything is garbage now. My company is heavily memeing learning AI but that's not a field I want to get into at all....

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>>109094849
>You ever get stuck in a deadbeat job?
Over ten years in the navy.

>>109094848
HOW?

>>109088869
>which I cannot name due to a legal agreement
You're posting anonymous on 4chan you fucking retard, no one is going to log your posts and track your IP and drag you into court over saying a company's name.

>>109088869
>work in office
>never have to worry about le teams being le green

>>109094869
get a gf

>>109094956
very unserious answer

>>109094960
ok ok. have sex with creatures

>be an incel
>pay 40% of my income in taxes
>pay another 40% in cost of living
very cool system thank you zog

>>109094986
>20% available to do literally whatever you want
that's fucking amazing in this economy

>>109094999
yeah imagine if it was 40% instead, next year's tax bill is going to be like 40k for me

>>109094986
what does incel have to do with taxes?

>>109095003
My taxes should pay for a sex slave who cooks my meals

>>109095003
breedoids get tax benefits for shitting out more flesh blobs

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>>109095027
i know that it's a sign of the fucking end times but stuff like this makes me happy because people like this were telling me for years that I'm le not le 10x good enough. i only don't hope you all die in poverty because hoping is more effort than I'd like to spend on you. you may have not created this cruel and twisted world but you supported it to the bitter end and are only bitching and moaning because the endless cycle of bag-holding you created left you with not even a bag in existence to hold, just the roaring emptiness formerly within it

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>>109095027
>>109095062

Well.. you get smart. Find the ugly daughter of a rich man knock her up and the old man will either hire you or find you job working for one of his friends.

>>109095062
>>109095027
>i spent 4 years of my life playing League, vlogposting from my leased car, and losing money on etherium. why wont anyone hire me ????

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Would you get in shit for living in your work's parking lot?