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Think for yourself. Do not blindly trust advice given here.

>A /pcbg/ for every use case and budget!

>Price tracking
RAM: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ram/ram-price-index-2026-lowest-price-on-ddr5-and-ddr4-memory-of-all-capacities
SSD: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ssds/ssd-price-tracking-2026-lowest-price-on-every-m-2-ssd
GPU: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/lowest-gpu-prices-tracking

>GPU hierarchy 2026
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Other helpful Links
Mobomaps: https://mobomaps.com/
A PC build guide: https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PC
German autism: https://www.igorslab.de/en/
Alternate to pcpartpicker: https://pangoly.com/en/pc-builder

what is the 7700X3D going to cost on release?
>inb4 arm & leg

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>>109089008

>>109089013
> $329 SEP
what does AMD mean by SEP?

>>109089023
suggested electronic retail price

>>109089023
>SERP
why not MSRP?
could it mean single exit price? like, a standard price that all retailers must agree to?

>>109089069
something something free market. something something supply and demand. At least they cannot make it more expensive than a 9800x3d otherwise no one would buy it, right?

>>109089129
there used to be this concept of fair trade pricing. the retailers would sign a contract with the manufacturer and or the mfr vendor. the contract would state clearly what the retail price should be set at and if the retailer charged more than the contracted fair trade price, the mfr would then have the option of terminating the contract. for example, AMD says to best buy, "you an only sell this CPU at this price or lower and if you don't, then we will not sell you any more CPUs."

So what's the lifespan of a ram stick? I got a deal for some Corsair DDR4 which was used for 6 years of office and light gaming.

>>109089184
there are RAM sticks from the 80s still in use. if your DDR 4 wasn't cooked by heat and voltage irregularities, then it could last decades theoretically.

>>109082854
>>109082860
I understand that PTM is phase change paste and it lasts a long time, but so does a carbon thermal pad since it's a dry carbon sheet. They both have the longevity factor, so i'm mostly just looking for which would perform better since they both seem to be about the same price and good options for long-term cooling with the limitations of a thin and light laptop.
Most I can find comparing things like carbonaut and PTM7950 are people saying they're gonna try it on [x] hardware, then never following up with results.

Is mini led a meme? What's the point when theres barely any hdr content?

>>109089184
I have b-die that's over 5 years old and set to run at 1.50v the whole time still working today

>>109089247
all of video content can be transformed into hdr using nvidia app
most recent games of note either have hdr mode, or you use nvidia app filters to transform the sdr presentation into hdr

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Thoughts on jumping on AM5 with 9800x3d or waiting for zen 6s? Extra ghz seems appealing, but I don't really care about the recently leaked AI slop features.

>>109088982
which one should I buy?
https://www.amazon.in/Seagate-Touch-External-Password-Protection/dp/B094QZHWJV/ - Rs 4090 per TB
or
https://www.amazon.in/Western-Digital-Passport-Portable-Worldwide/dp/B0D1V1JV9X/ - Rs 4283 per TB

I am a digital hoarder and I've already got a 5 TB HDD, one 2 TB HDD that's making noises now (the reason I'm making this post), one 1 TB HDD and two failed HDD that were previously installed in laptops and now I use as externals for storing stuff I don't mind losing.

Should I go for another 5 TB or just get a 6 TB one?
>inb4 buy an external SSD
I can't unless you're paying

>>109089241
I'd be a tad averse to using a pad on a laptop. The plate won't have been designed for it (low pressure, low Z tolerance) and any gaps in direct die have the potential to kill your shit. I'm still like 99% sure it'd be fine but the performance will be so close that the risk isn't justified. From what I've seen the best pads, pastes, and PCM are all within a degree or two of each other.

>>109089373
They're both cheapo SMR drives so just get the one with the capacity you want. I've not had good experiences with Seagate SMR models but that's too small a sample to make a real judgement.

>>109089349
You can get a 9800x3d now while waiting, especially if it's on discount
I did that the last time with the 7800x3d and made a couple bucks selling it off to switch to the 9800x3d because of the mini x3d shortage in late 2024 to early 2025

>>109089349
jump am5, you've got another three years (at least!) support for the platform.

>>109089241
Go with ptm7950, in the testing I've seen it outperforms the thermal pads and is non conductive so it's safe to use everywere.

>>109087021
That tool needs a complete rewrite. It seems to be hard-coded to point to the included filename and changing it to the newest PresentMon with a changed name results in an error:

subprocess.CalledProcessError: Command '['bin\\PresentMon\\PresentMon-1.10.0-x64.exe', '-stop_existing_session', '-no_top', '-timed', '30', '-process_name', 'lava-triangle.exe', '-output_file', 'captures\\AutoGpuAffinity-190626113814\\CSVs\\CPU-0.csv', '-terminate_after_timed']' returned non-zero exit status 1.

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Value Top Typhoon F5W vs. Gamdias Aura GC5 Elite

First, we have Gamdias Aura GC5. This one is very traditional and minimal. The kind we have been getting used to for some time. Nice and elegant with temperature display. Even 3 cooling fans are included.

Next, we have Value Top Typhoon F5W. This one is a bit cooler looking with the new fish tank design. But it is a bit wide and short like a box. Not sure if I'd like that size and shape in real life. But it does have 5 fans included.

Prices of both are about the same where I live.

>>109089745
fishtank and vertical the gpu

>>109089749
unless anon has a small GPU I don't think vertical is really an option in such a small case

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>>109089253
i fried a b-die stick by running it at 1.65v for 2 years...

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Thanks Valve

>>109090119
SteamOS update? Don't own any SOS capable devices so idc rly

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>>109090131
Ye, it's also for regular PCs.

>>109090154
>it's also for regular PCs
It's not lol, the fact that it manages to work half-decent on AMD-based PC's is an accident. It'll still be broken on any Nvidia based PC's that make up most of Steam's userbase. It's not meant to be used as a generic distro, it's designed for a small subset of devices, first AMD-based, but now Intel-based as well as the Arc team starts competing with AMD in the handheld space. Meanwhile Nvidia is toying with Arm so Valve doesn't care about working on that, but if Nvidia-based handhelds start showing up then things might take a different turn.

>>109090197
Intel and "discrete GPUs" doesn't mean exlusive

How well could the peerless assassin 120 manage a 9950x3d?
I'm gonna custom loop so want a cheap aircooler for temp setup while I pick and acquire parts.

I'm contemplating sidegrading from my GTX1080 to a RTX3060TI. I want to get off the legacy support drivers from the AUR but decided against AMD because my monitor uses gsync.
Is a RTX3060TI for $170 a good deal, does the sidegrade make sense? I don't want to spend more than $200.

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>>109090354
>does the sidegrade make sense?
no. save more and get an actual upgrade...

>>109090354
It's only a sidegrade in terms of VRAM for everything else it is an upgrade.
Having access to DLSS/DLAA is worth it.
At that price you won't find anything better.

>>109090354
>gsync but no freesync
Didn't know monitors like this existed. Which one is it?

>>109090429
Tensor cores too. I want to dabble in some AI stuff.
>>109090398
I won't spend more than $200, so no point in saving up.
>>109090437
10 year old POS monitor when gsync was just coming out. Asus PG348Q.

>>109090335
>How well could the peerless assassin 120 manage a 9950x3d?
Its effective cooling for an AM5 CPU is like 140 to 180 watts.
The 9950X3D pulls something like 190 watts under heavy work loads, but can go up to 230 watts.

You will probably be fine with the peerless assassin 120 as a place holder. But you will be pushing it really close to 90C.
You could also just under volt, or use eco mode until you have better cooling set up.

Perhaps an RTX3070 is the better choice? I can get it for the same price as the 3060ti

>>109090437
before freesync or hdmi 2.1 there was only gsync

If I wanted to build like a super budget build and do it with a 1080 Ti, there would be tons of trouble shooting and nonsense to deal with every time you try play a new game, right? Drivers would just be fucked, no?

>>109090536
Idk, I still play any modern game I'm interested in on my 1070. Not sure when I last updated drivers.

>>109090536
Depends on the game and resolution. At 1080p60 you can still play lots of games

>>109090536
1080Ti is done because every new title requires upscaling and you no longer get any driver updates. It's also power hungry and doesn't support RT at all.
Even if 3060 12GB is just as slow, it will last longer because of better support.

>>109090574
Yeah for new games forget it. But as a budget option (here they are ~$50) for older games and emulation it's solid

>>109090513
If it's not a version with turbine cooler then sure.

>>109090592
>here they are ~$50
Where do you live? The cheapest I've seen is 100$ USD.

Where were you when Steve from HU became the catalyst of the chain reaction that popped the AI bubble?
https://youtu.be/nwrDdpkw_oA

>>109090592
At that price sure, in my country normalfags are trying to sell this e-waste for over 150€. 3060 can be bought at that price, that's why I've mentioned it.

>>109090654
>in my country
>€
I mean, isn't your country overrun with Indians and Mudlims? Of course they are trying to scam and sell you garbage.

>>109090621
50-100. Some retards are still asking >100 but you can get lucky with an auction
>>109090611
I'm looking at a 3070 from an AcerPredator prebuilt for 170. Might just get it

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Hi, Anons. I need some help here.
When I use my computer horizontally (picrel), the maximum GPU power consumption before thermal throttling kicks in is ~77% (when the case is positioned vertically, it’s ~80%).
If I remove that acrylic cover, however, I can push my GPU to ~98% before thermal throttling kicks in.
I want to know if this is normal, if every enclosed case really causes all that performance loss (it’s a trade-off to keep dust out of the components), or if my case is just trash and I need to buy a better one or something.
Thanks

>>109090738
What case is that? Does it only have that small slit as front intake?
It's normal for bad cases to act like an oven that's why every good case has good airflow.

Every monitor just feels like a scam.
Just wanted a small 160 Hz OLED monitor that doesn't have a "gaming tax" attached to it.

>>109090738
your case is a hotbox. no top exhaust, not bottom intake, front intake is choked off, only fan with air is the single rear exhaust.

>>109090851
AW2726DM is $350 from Dell.com

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>>109090856
>>109090808
It's a Corsair 275R.
I found a temperature test video for it (picrel) Apparently, removing the front panel improves things considerably.
I'm going to run some tests here and see if it makes a difference.

Note:
A test I made: without the acrylic panel and with the GPU running at full power, I got the following result in a 3D render:
>614 iterations, 3min 47 seconds

With the GPU limited to 75%, the result was practically the same:
>605 iterations, 3min 53 seconds

Shouldn’t I have lost 25% in performance? Or maybe these GPUs are optimized for gaming and not for tasks like rendering?

>refurbished cards are either hardly discounted or more expensive than their modern equivalents
gpus are tools not collectors items for fucks sake
>muh out of production
fuck you

i refuse to turn my ram oc off i refuse i won't do it

>>109091004
GPUs are running well outside the peak efficiency window.
Power limiting to 75% for many models will lead to maybe 5% lower performance, but that depends on the workload.
Both CPUs and GPUs are basically overclocked out of the box.

>>109091032
I turned the stock oc on my board off because games kept crashing and sure enough that fixed it

>>109090354
8GB garbage even 3060 is better

>>109091032
I wish RAM OC made a bigger difference with X3D, but at the same time I enjoy having stable and cool system.
Lazy BZ timings are good enough.

>>109091032
same low trfc and high trefi is like using a brand new computer going back is so laggy.

>>109091061
I'm getting a 3070 instead. Still only 8gb of vram but eitherway a substantial upgrade from a gtx1080.

>>109091075
you can find that for $200? Yeah that'd be better still 8GB but at least a lot better

>>109091064
it does make a huge difference. dont pay attention to avg fps or even min fps. its the latency. you can have 240fps but terrible latency thats why framegen feels so shit.

>>109091087
I'm looking at a listing with a starting offer of 170. It runs til sunday and still no offers. I will wait til the last hour and punce on it.

>>109089184
In my experience, if a component has lasted five years or so (probably even less) then it most likely will keep working indefinitely. I still have a BBC Micro that I fire up from time to time and it works fine

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Do you think leaving the front of the case open like this, with just these net thing, will let a lot of dust get inside?
I just ran a test, and in the same 3D render where the fan was running at 100%, it’s now at 86% (without the front panel).

>>109091207
>net thing
Those are dust filters retardbro

>>109091103
I don't think so.
Ryzen can't even use the full bandwidth of DDR5 and you can lower the timings only to a certain extend. For non-X3D you see much better results. I'm more likely to be GPU limited than anything else.

>>109091222
Bandwidth is irrelevant for Ryzen it's all about latency. Ryzen already operates at latency penalty compared to Intel. You want to minimize latency as much as possible. This is why Nvidia And AMD and Intel all have system latency tools now.

>>109091222
>>109091229
these are complete nonsense
x3d or not is irrelevant
intel has never beaten amd with latency
ryzen will give you the least latency simple as
>but my intel uses less power and is slow so the busses aren't overwhelmed
take this big cock up your ass and you'll like it

>>109091272
most delusional post in all of /pcbg/ history

>>109091229
Sorry but I won't be able to see the margin of error differences.
If you want to min-max go for it but only benchmarks will care.

>>109091272
>>109091347
Why do you think affinity interrupt is a thing

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>>109091379
Meme, also I don't use winblows.
At least I know which shizo I'm dealing with.
>bro I can totally tell the difference
Audiophile-tier delusions. Placebo. Snake oil.

>build a budget PC around a 1080 Ti
>the RAM costs 3x more than the GPU

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Should I play with this if I'm undervolting my 9070xt?
The goal is to try to reduce coil whine as much as possible, dunno if this helps

>>109089184
my two 9 year old 8 gig sticks of ddr4 have been going solid this whole time, and i'll probably push 9 more years out of them with prices being the way they are

>>109091778
it should

Even beyond the price and small performance difference, I think the main reason I don't want to buy a 5080 over a 5070 TI for an upgrade is the fucking melting connectors. You can do everything right, fully seat it, use appropriately good cables, and you can still just get unlucky and shit melts down one day.

Get new material

I think I know why AutoGPUAffinity keeps failing. I tried running PresentMon manually and I started getting the following error that didn't result in a CSV output:

warning: 4608476 ETW events were lost.

The number of events varies but the result is the same, for some reason nothing gets saved. If it did, I would be able to run the benchmarks manually for evaluation.

>>109089184
if you keep it at 1.35v instead of overvolting it it'll last longer than your will to live in this late capitalism hellhole of a world
even 1.40v should be safe, buildzoid would say that even 1.45v is safe forever, but I don't like taking unnecessary risks

>>109092250
skip autogpuaffinity then and test manually. put it on 1 P core at a time, reboot, and monitor the results and how it feels to you.

bought a cpu cooler and the reviews say the thermal paste that comes with is dry and sticky
will it be fine or should I unass a couple more shekels for a new one?

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>>109092412
That's what I ended up doing. Set affinity, run benchmark, reboot, until I gathered all the results. Wasn't perfect but these are the results.

So if I'm reading this correctly core 3 should be the most optimal here, right?

Walmart is selling 5070s for $600, is that an OK price? I want to upgrade from my 1080 sometime this year

>>109092574
That's the regular price right now

>>109092572
just use linux, they have better schedulers than microslop

>>109092574
~$550 and below is deal territory, $600 is meh

>>109092572
core 0 is your best core. intel thread director working as intended as its splitting your dpc/isr away from it.

>>109092607
if he were amd sure.

>>109088982
The most power efficient gpu to render blender?

>>109092610
where can I find one for $550?

>>109092661
the latest gpu architecture which is 5000 series
the most expensive you can afford.

>>109092661
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_RTX_50_series

>>109092610
>>109092675
Woot has 9070 for $550. You can turn into a 9070XT for free.
https://computers.woot.com/offers/powercolor-reaper-amd-radeon-rx-9070-16gb-1?utm_medium=share&utm_source=app

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OACfk1qNlCY

>no pump noise
>top-tier cooling performance

>70mm pump height
FUCKKKKKKK

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>>109092715
>1000zł
>for an AIO
>not even made in Austria
>but Noctua shills will still claim Austrian superiority™ as an argument

reminder if you buy silent fans instead of normal fans you'll be hearing coil whine for the rest of your life and it's much, much worse

>>109092746
everyone uses headphones or earbuds

>>109092754
I can't wear them for more than an hour.

>>109092790
get better ones? I sleep with my realme buds cuz they have noise cancelling.

>>109091778
The way that works is an enigma. In my experience it's a complete waste of time.
You can just lower the power limit instead of reducing it. And raising it does nothing since the default max clock is unreachable anyway.

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this is what true cpu affinity looks like

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Does anybody know what scam this guy is running?
Apparently it's a zotac RTX3070ti but the backplate looks like that of a zotac 3080ti (the "live to game" is on the wrong place).

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>>109092979
Front
Can't find the pics with reverse search but something is fishy. Price is also too good to be true (160)

>>109092979
not worth stressing over. either they deliver valid 3dmark result or its fake/scam/he doesn't have it.

>>109092798
you are going to deeply regret that within 10 years

>>109092979
bring your computer and test it

>>109092746
I've got Corsair LL120s
I might be imagining things but I think my fans have been getting slightly louder. I have my fans set to "silent mode" in Armoury Crate but they're still running at 1600+ RPMS. Maybe I need to make a custom fan profile

It's also possible my liquid cooling is starting to go bad, or I need new thermal paste. CPU core temps are high 40's low 50's

>>109093024
>Noise-cancelling headphones do not cause hearing loss; in fact, they can help protect your ears by reducing the need to crank up volume over background noise.
So what's there to worry about?

>>109093005
The profile looks legit otherwise. He's selling a ryzen 7 7800X3D, a Corsair RM750x PSU, and some 380hz monitor (both put online on the 16th of May, the date that is visible one GPU pics). Looks like he gutted his PC and is selling the parts. He has some other listings too.
>>109093025
Too far away unfortunately

>>109093062
Is it ebay? If so then you are buyer protected.

>>109093055
dumb gullible goy cattle

>>109093077
/pol/ is next door

>>109093055
You're sleeping with them on, as in using them at least 8hrs a day, those comments were made with people using them for maybe 2-3hrs in mind.

>>109093069
No I'm a europoor and it's a local website. I messaged him and will see what he answers. He does have another listing for a gtx1060 for $50 in which he says he upgraded to a 5070ti. But it doesn't make sense that he wouldn't mention it on the 3070ti listing.
Guess I'll wait and see. Would be amazing if it's not a scam

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looks like we lost our schizo indian spammer. now the threads last for multiple days. It's over.

>>109093093
Anon you are retarded. You can use passive audio cancelling instead of active audio cancelling. You think Lawn Mowers go fucking deaf from using the former?

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>>109092979
I checked a couple of 3070tis in google. Some have the "live to game" on the right, some on the left. The card is probably legit.

>>109093260
I have seen that too. Still, $160? Who knows, some people don't need the money and would rather just sell quickly.

>>109093292
the card probably has some issues. He mentioned he repasted it, so he could have had some heat issues or something. If he can do that much, he should be aware of the current pricing of the card. Also his gemmed wristband is kinda sus.

>>109093383
>his gemmed wristband is kinda sus
Kek. But yeah, probably too good to be true. I'll ask him for 3dmark results. I doubt he'll deliver but it's worth a try. Hasn't replied yet

>>109093259
The problem isn't the noise cancelling you retard, it's you sticking some shit in your ears for 8hrs+ a day.

>>109088982
I'm looking for a tower case that is huge with 10+ HDD bays for this purpose: >>>/t/1396004

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I have noticed some stuttering when I launch games, load maps, or other specific situations on the games I run off my Crucial T705 located on the third NVME slot in my Asus Proart B650. The games ran fine when I ran everything out of my OS drive WD SN850X in the first NVME slot or even a SATA SSD. Is it a problem related to PCIE lanes or because it's a PCIE 5 drive in a PCIE 4 slot or a faulty drive? The drive is not running hot.

>>109093055
>>109093259
Not reading the whole discussion, but there are two main reasons to avoiding using headphones of any sort.
1. Covering the era around your heads creates of humid environment that the hair follicles in your ears are not meant to handle. Those hairs in your ear are how you hear.
2. The vibrations of sound being so close to the hair follicles are also at risk for damaging them.

These hair follicles in your ear do not ever grow back, so you if you damage them you're screwed for good.

If you really don't want to get a normal speaker system, try getting a a pair of bone conduction headphones. The sound quality isn't amazing, but they don't do permeant damage to your ear either.

>>109093383
He replied and said he upgraded to a 5080, even though in his other listing he states he upgraded to a 5070ti. Yeah, 90% a scam. I asked him for 3dmark results and asked why he's selling it for so cheap. I'm sniffing too much copium

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>>109092549
>thermal paste that comes with is dry and sticky
Which? I recently got a Thermalright PA and its supplied thermal paste seemed fine to me.

>>109093532
The third nvme is likely on chipset lanes, which means it'll be bottlenecked with everything else on those.

>>109093383
Yeah, he's a scammer. Doesn't want to provide a benchmark and doesn't want me to drive over and test the card before i buy it. What a faggot

>>109091218
Lol. Thanks.
Based on the name, I figure they should be enough to filter out the dust, right? That fucking plastic cover on the Corsair Carbide 270R was blocking all the airflow. Now, if I cap my GPU at 75%, the fans don’t even reach 90% and it’s much quieter.
And the GPU Power Input can stay at 85% before hitting the thermal cap.

>>109093768
Then it's definitely a scam. On the bright side, you saved 160 bucks.

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>>109088982
HAS IT BEGUN?

>>109093854
big if true

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>>109093854
SIKE

>>109093817
Scammers should get publicly executed. Only thing they provide in their miserable lives is be a burden on society

this just in: ram prices will never come down
https://techcrunch.com/2026/06/17/ai-is-hurting-apple-in-more-ways-than-one-it-may-force-iphone-price-increases/

>>109093879
And CEO's of all the companies that are benefiting from the shortages are all saying that the current AI boom is our actual future and it will never slow down. Which is totally not blatant lies told to benefit their own agenda and to appease the investors, while they know damn well this won't last forever.

Imagine buying into articles like this. Cook is 100% right that this shit is "unsustainable". You cannot sustain a crisis like that forever, and the gravy train will run out at some point.

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>>109093886
openAI: hold my beer

>>109093897
Sam Altman is a retard, and his IPO will end in disaster. Fucker's burning through money, same as Anthropic, so the moment investors realize that after all the financials of OpenAI have to become public, shit will start to collapse real fucking fast.

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Last question!

So I leave my computer lying flat on the desk like picrel, because when I stand it upright, it makes a subtle but annoying noise that I can't pinpoint the source of. So I just leave it like this...
Now I want to add one or two more fans to see if it improves the airflow inside it.
There's one fan in the front and one in the back.
Do you think if I put three fans in the front, it'll make a difference?
From the videos I've seen, people put fans where the "top" of the case would be, but since mine is lying flat, it doesn't have a top, so I was thinking of just putting three "intake" fans there and seeing if that solves anything…
Could someone smarter than me explain to me better what to do?

>>109093922
>make a difference
yes

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>>109093886
It has it's purpose the same way that the housing bubble has it's purpose.

>make people filthy rich
>give them just enough loans to make them even richer
>pull their source of income out from under them
>give them your prescribed alternatives

>>109093922
If you have a vape you can blow some vapour into the case around the intake and observe the behaviour

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>>109093990
this is true, ive been with /pcbg/ since last year and once everyone started complaining about rising ram prices I sold my pc and threw all my money into dram stocks and now I can buy like 10 pcs

>>109093886
>Cook is 100% right that this shit is "unsustainable".
Yeah, it basically fucks everyone except the memory companies. Budget device companies go out of business, AI companies bleed even more money on R&D, consumers cut back on device and service purchases because their devices are suddenly 30% more expensive.

And then if China starts pumping out memory like crazy as the high memory prices bankroll their fab bootstrapping, then the existing memory makers also get fucked.

>>109093532
try a nvme driver. its better than the microsoft default. https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/solidigm-nvme-custom-modded-driver-for-all-nvme-brands-ssds-any-nvme-ssds.327143/

>>109093879
I regret not buying the 2x32gig Trident Neo RAM on sale a few months back. Was like $700. Won't support Corsair, and Crucial is out.

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>>109093879
>So far AI has not been a particular boon to Apple. The company is already under pressure to figure out its AI strategy for its devices. It even paid a $250 million settlement earlier this year to end a false advertising lawsuit filed after it failed to deliver the AI features it promised two years ago.

When the market is so bad you gotta send the RAM for repair instead of just buying a new one

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Gun to your head pick one:

>ASUS ROG STRIX B550-I
>Gigabyte B550I AORUS PRO AX
>MSI MPG B550I Gaming Edge WiFi

what do you guys use for headphones? My Arctis 7s are on their last legs and any newer ones use a usb c dongle for some unfathomable reason.

My assrock shit the bed.

>>109094768
msi tomahawk

>>109094769
corsair virtuoso (I do not recommend this)

>>109094769
moondrop chu 2, unironically, yes, it costs $20, yes I have tried $50 iems, they broke in 1 year while chus last forever
I'm considering buying an overear headphone because I've been playing shooters these days and maybe I'd wait to hear steps and gay shit like that, I haven't bought any but I've done the research and if I were to buy it would be the hifiman HE400SE or the fiio JT1

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>>109094773

>>109094768
This>>109094773

>>109094783
if those 3 are your options go watch the hardware unboxed video rating b550 vrms and pick the best vrm

>>109094785
I'm not buying a new case

>>109094790
I already picked one.

>>109094798
>I'm not buying a new case
I suggest you buy the one that works and won't stop working.

>>109094815
I didn't list any asrock boards

>>109094824
asrock is rock solid in am4, I have 3 computers with their motherboards

mlid leaked rdna5 sooner than expected, makes sense, it would crush the super relaunch and force nvidia to launch the 60 series earlier

hmmmm. i cant help but notice that there isnt a blackwell 6000 listed in the OP.

9070xt or 5070ti? and if so what model

>>109094970
9070xt, mercury oc

>>109094872
RDNA5 has been ready for a while, it should've been announced since computex but RAM crisis fucked it up and now they'll probably drop them by end of year or CES at the latest.

>>109094824
>>109094851
Has nothing to do with the manufacturers (maybe am5 asrock). M I ther boards are just a component that fails. It's always been that way. Why do you think these companies are in the business in the first place? Nobody is going to manufacture a board that arrives in working order 100% of the time.

>>109089383
with how thin the pads are, haven't had any issues with substituting paste for one since most coolers are sprung and tensioned and this is no different in how the cooler mounts.
My first experience with carbon pads are an old dell inspiron 8100, used carbon pads from the factory, technically still good but i ended up ripping the pad when i checked, so replacing it with another was obvious. The cooler on that laptop is mounted with a spring clip and a hinged door on top, so less pressure than a 4 screw sprung post.

>>109089721
got any resources to see how carbon pads compare to PTM? everything I find is either comparing it to paste or run of the mill thermal pads and not explicitly carbon thermal pads. I don't doubt you, but i'm having a very hard time finding anything relating to that.

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>>109094970
Even better, just save the money and buy a 5070. RDNA4 is slop anyways

>>109095048
why only a 5070?

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>>109095060
Because it's cheap

>>109094920
If you have blackwell 6000 money you should be just clicking max on every part regardless.

>>109095041
Check the usual reviewers like derbauer or gaymers nexus they should've reviewed he new carbon pad already.

>>109094970
>>109095060
What are you doing?
If you're gaming, what resolution?

>>109095149
1440p and general movies, youtube etc. nothing crazy

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redpill me on the MSI B550m pro is it good for a 5600G ? I'm interested into toying with PBO & some igpu oc

>>109095169
you need a blackwell 6000 and a 9950x3d2 for that.

>>109095176
nah, it's crappy, buy a better one

>>109095185
such as ?

>he boughted the oled

https://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/BDL_MM00005691

https://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/BDL_MM00005692

Are either of these bundles good?

>>109095189
any am4 board with better vrms

>>109095179
No he needs an Epyc and 2 Blackwell 6000

>>109095246
yeah

>>109095206
Is this first world dollars? Because those prices seems very high.

>>109095206
The leaf dollar is really in the shitter, huh?

And no, those aren't good deals. Come down here to AMERICA and go to a Microcenter.

>>109095006
>>109094872
It'll be exciting again once that happens
Amd will finally be able to claim that their GPUs are the fastest in the world for the first time in a decade, even if it's only for 3 months until the 5090ti 800w drops

>>109089013
The few bucks you save on this CPU over the 9800X3D won't buy you RAM or SSD or HDD or GPU.
It's not worth it to sacrifice the compute for it.

>>109095412
the leaks say rdna5 is faster than the 5090, so I think the time frame will be:
supers early 27 -> rdna5 mid 27 and if rdna5 is as good as they say they'll be then 60 series should come up in early 28 or even in q4 27

>>109092715
> no pump noise
> top-tier cooling performance
You also get this if you simply throttle the pump of an ALF3.
And for a lot less money!

>>109095426
Rdna5 AT0 for sure seems to be a titan class chip
I just hope amd will make a consumer SKU out of it instead of gatekeeping it to workstations

>>109092549
It's worth spending some few bucks on fresh Duronaut thermal past.

>>109095461
whats a good substitute for the included spatula though? cause the included one eats up alot when you spread it

>>109095449
I hope AMD uses the opportunity to keep prices low and aim to get market share
also hope nvidia launches the 60 series asap to put more pressure on prices

>>109095469
I recommend to first heat the paste in a water bath as it's rather high viscosity.
It will then be much easier to evenly spread a very thin layer of it.
For application I use plane stripes of some blister package or plastic container that I cut with scissors.

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I spent two whole days just trying to install ROCm and PyTorch on WSL2. I should have paid the Nvidia premium.

>>109095473
>Prices low
>9070XT
>$800

It really is kinda retarded how badly AMD fumbled this one. If they'd just kept the 9070XT at MSRP they'd be doing so much better, but just being so desperate to be consistently $50-100 cheaper than whatever Nvidia is offering has made them chase Nvidia into pricing themselves out.

>>109095822
rocm and pytorch ran on windows you idiot
and holy shit installing stuff on wsl2 is literally just typing commands on the cli

>>109095877
I got my 9070xt at msrp

>>109095877
If they kept it at MSRP their partners would be pissed at them, their investors would be super pissed at them and losa would've probably been fired/replaced by some retarded business mba thanks to the board. Might as well raise prices along with the rest of the market and enjoy the extra profit which can then be reinvested onto r&d.

it's a bit disturbing that the gpu sits at 53c while the hotstop is at 67c, the delta is too big

>>109096185
That's less than 20c. That's nothing.

>>109096029
And that's kinda exactly why AMD will never gain significant GPU market share.

>>109089202
> my grandpa's old pc still boots with the original 64kb sticks

yeah and my toaster runs on vacuum tubes. doesn't mean ddr4 is gonna outlive the sun.

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What case should I get
(any case I will lay it on its side)

>>109090119
valve doesn't care about you, anon. they're busy printing money from hats and steam fees.

>>109096225
why

>>109096225
>5090 astral LC
That's a relatively new GPU
How did it get so banged up so soon

>>109096225
the problem with laying AIOs on their side is the air bubbles will accumulate in the CPU block and cause the pump to prematurely die.

>>109096259
What ru u yapping about
>>109096277
The gpu rad fans can only be set to exhaust so it's fighting for air with the single gpu fan so ideally one where i can move it to the top to be exhaust and the cpu to intake on the front since it won't make much heat but I need a wider case so the tubes get clearance and I can close it to put the other PC on top of this one

>>109096310
Scratched the piss out of it fighting the tubes with both rads free floating trying different mounting setups (I didn't take off the plastic until I was done)
>>109096320
Not worried since the bequiet aio is relatively cheap so I can finally transition into a custom loop if it does
(I keep a heavy oc)
/spy/64133225

>>109096323
you want that GPU mounted vertically, it isn't meant to be mounted horizontally, see >>109096320
for an explanation. Water coolers are designed to be mounted in a specific way. Physics don't give a fuck about your feelings, so any case that supports a vertical GPU mount.

How many HDDs are you putting in said case? I use a NAS I built from old parts so this is a nonissue for me.

What's your budget?
HAVN HS 420 VGPU Mid Tower Case is $330 but it solves your issues.

>>109096339
here it is sans fans
https://www.tradeinn.com/techinn/en/havn-hs420-vgpu-pc-tower-case/141935178/p?id_producte=147457319&country=us

mount your hardware properly and don't be a retard.

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>>109096349
Wouldn't the gpu rad suffer from being under the pump? The cpu is a 420
I've got 6tb nvme in this one but the other pc I used as a nas in the carboard box with the panel on

>>109096346
isn't something like the astral 5090 LC designed to be horizontal mounted by default? Vertical mounted the tubes point up as they are on the connectors side for some reason.

>>109096432
>>109096390
water will form bubbles, that is the nature of it, even with the shit they add to the coolant is still going to form bubbles, that is just the nature of it. The physics behind it, no matter how you engineer it, mounting the block under the reservoir is always going to result in better water flow and mounting it vertically is best practice. There is nothing you can argue that will change physics bro. It's like asking why nobody wants to fuck a tranny. Gay people like the same gender, straight people like the opposite gender, putting yourself into an ugly middle ground isn't going to make it magically better or increase your options. you MUST mount it vertically if you want proper cooling. There is no way around it. Gravity is a thing we all must contend with. Arguing that the world is flat doesn't change it either, you are arguing with reality itself. I could give you the mathematics but you would be too stupid to comprehend it.

>>109096459
Horizontal GPU is perfectly fine water cooled as long as the pump isn't the highest point. You can just front or side mount the radiator with the the tubes at the bottom and the top of the radiator being above the GPU. The air should be collected at the top of the radiator then.

>>109096542
except air gets trapped and there is nothing you can do about it except mount it vertically, because physics.
>muh what aboutism
no, listen nigger, mount it vertically or get the fuck out. your opinions on the matter don't change physics. I hate black people so much its insane.

>>109096563
>everyone is stupid but me
yea I bet all the people that designed and used water cooled GPUs horizontal the past decades were all retards

>>109096578
yes, every one who has ever used a water cooled GPU ended up mounting it vertically because of the head creep that eventually caused it. go be a nigger somewhere else.

>5090
>play a game
>games crashes and black screen, have to restart window
>boot up a game with the astral monitoring
>all of a sudden all pins are losing their mind, pin 1 spikes to 7.2 while the other are a 2A, then it's pin 6 who goes up to 8A while the others get really low

What the fuck? I haven't even touched my PC, what a fucking dogshit card. Guess i'll have to unplug and plug it again. Thanks god I'm playing with a 0.800V undervolt, otherwise it'd have cooked.

>>109096667
I had a problem on the PSU side check that also

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Bros I need tech support.
Is putting two top fans a good idea in pic rel build?
It's a 5800X (huge regret) and 3060TI.
Now that I got a 1440p 200hz monitor locked at 120 skyrim is burning my PC down.
I undervolted with PDO I think or some similar sounding thing in BIOS negative 20. GPU also a bit with MSI afterburner.

The problem is that the back fan seems weaker than the CPU fans and somehow the air is probably getting stuck in the upper left quadrant of the box.
Now with undervolts I no longer BSOD from overheat, but not happy with temps still.
I get 2 leftover fans (the original cpu fan from the cooler and a random deepcool one from the case).
Would putting them as shown a good idea or should I just use the one to aid with the back heat exhaust? The front panel is solid with side grills and I don't feel like a ton of air is pushed into the case either.

Of course I'll be cleaning out the dust as well beforehand...

use case for 120mm AIO coolers? I've yet to see one being used, even ITX builds go for 240mm.

>>109096716
I used my old 120 to watercool my raspberry pi 5 to 3.6ghz

>>109096704
What PPT limit are you using?
Undervolting won't do much for temps if your CPU is still pulling the same amount of power.

>>109096737
I don't know. I'm always too cowardly to do these things myself. Already almost had a heart attack changing the fans on the CPU cooler.

https://youtu.be/OSoSimJbmzA?t=221
Video at timestamp does this PBO thing. I set it to negative 20, I have the same MSI bios.
I didn't change anything else aside from fan curves for reasonable noise levels.
I do feel like at least an extra exhaust on top would help with removing hot air from that top left side where it seems to get stuck.

considering cucking out and getting the 5800x3d re release. running a 5600x currently

>>109096774
5800X is hot as fuck because it only has 8 cores but it pulls as much power as 5950X with 16 cores.
If you limit the PPT which is total power you should see large temperature decrease. By default it should be 142W, lower it to ~100W it might slightly lower the performance but it will make it much cooler for sure. You won't run into any stability issues by limiting power.
You can run cinebench or other CPU stress test and check what is the current package power in HWinfo

>>109096704
>>109096774
you're way overthinking this it's a 5800x not a 14900k and a 5090, there's no way this shit runs hot. If it runs hot just put the 5800x to an all core of like 4.2ghz 1.0v or something

>>109089013
>777

Why don't Intel just replicate the X3D? Its that easy

>>109096807
>>109096808
Do I do these on top of the PBO curve editor thing or do I just turn the PBO off and then set the values you guys mention manually?
Also about the initial question. Would the fans make things worse? I feel like at least the top exhaust would make sense since as I said the hot air seems to get stuck around the CPU/backexhaust.

>>109096801
I'm also considering this and getting a GPU with more than 8GB instead of building an AM5 system. Well... getting one built... I don't dare mess with parts this expensive with arthritis hands.

>>109096825
Your suggested fan configuration wouldn't improve things in any noteworthy way but i don't think it would be worse either, just pointless.

As for the CPU. If your main concern is it running hot, do this.

Set your bios to all defaults
go back into the bios and enable xmp
DISABLE PBO and set the CPU multiplier to 4.2GHz and set an override/static CPU voltage of 1.05, to start out.

There's no way in hell this runs hot and i expect it to be stable because the 5800x is a good bin, for reference my ryzen 5 5600 (non x) does 4.3 at 1.02v all day. From there you can try increasing clocks or lowering volts depending on what you want. If your shit is unstable just adjust voltages and clock speeds.

These cpus at a static voltage below 1.1v is a fucking breeze.

>>109096837
don't forget to manually set your memory's rated voltage if the bios doesn't do it for you. It's probably 1.35v or something

>>109096837
There are other ways to achieve similar "dynamic" results by adjusting PPT or clock offsets but this is the most straight forward and predictable way to do it in my opinion

>>109096825
If you add those fans it might lower the temperature maybe by 1-2°C depending on the fan speed.
You would gain more by removing the front panel from your case, at least on your picture it looks like a solid piece of plastic with mesh filter on top. But maybe it's just how it looks on the photo.
You can keep your existing voltage curve with UV, all you have to do is enable lower power limit. It's the simplest solution in my opinion.

>>109096837
>>109096840
Thanks I'll try this then. To be honest I'll likely just revert the PBO settings instead of a full reset. I'll do the settings you recommend like that. It currently goes up to 4.5Ghz so a bit lower wont hurt.
The PC shop guy set up the ram speeds 3 years ago and I don't wanna touch that. Though it is kinda weird that hwinfo says 1600mhz when it's supposed to be 3200 I think.

>>109096861
Yeah it is a solid panel on the front and has 2 grooves on each side for intake. Not a lot to be honest.
Still kinda worried about hot air stuck around the top left. I'm thinking maybe the fan speeds cause some weird effect since they are so close at the back.

>>109096867
it runs at 3200 dont worry, and yes try what i suggested, you might even go 4.1ghz to make truly fucking sure that it boots and then at least you can check your temps

>>109096867
and 4.5ghz vs 4.1-4.2 all core you won't notice shit except your CPUs power draw has halved and temps down by like 15-30c

>>109096667
It's your psu or psu cable
My astral holds a steady 8.6-9A at 640W with the seasonic gx1000 atx3.1 psu

thank god i bought 5090 last november. the price nearly doubled in my region.

>>109096980
no one needs a 5090

>>109096980
you should have buyderized a blackwell 6000

>>109096818
The replication is coming this year

>>109096818
>>109097046
AMD has 3d stacking L3 cache patented. Intel is fucked.

>>109097052
How did amd patent tsmcs packaging technology
besides intel doesnt use that tsmc tech because it wont help their architecture as much while adding a lot of cost

>Microcenter 9850X3D/mobo/32GB RAM kit went up to $800
>Just price cut the Ultra 7 270k+, Z series board, and 32GB kit for $550

I think I'm just going to buy the Intel stuff.

>>109097046
They're still doing cache 2d which comes with a large cost to timings, latency and clocks unlike 3d cache

>>109097061
285k is tsmc.

>>109097061
AMD patents the design, TSMC patents the actual production method and lasers.

>>109097052
intel can show prior art

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>>109096807
>>109096808
>>109096837
I set it to 4.2Ghz and 1100 on voltage in the manual OC thing.
Kept the PBO curve to Negative 20.

It is insane bros. No heat, no noise, no headache.
I've been regretting this CPU for years and now it's whisper quiet and not heating.

Ended up dusting out the case too and installing 1 top fan, top rear exhaust just for peace of mind. Maybe it doesn't do much, but whatever.

With all this pressing the HWinfo stress test I'm at a -30C MAX temp and -20C average temp.
I'm very happy.
I just pray it wont crash ever during actual play.

Thanks to everyone who responded again.

>>109097228
Good work anon, i always underclock these things. They're cranked out of the box and extremely inefficient.
I still suggest you just disable PBO though as they are at best disabled entirely and doing nothing when you apply static clocks and voltages. What does HWmonitor say about your voltages?

>>109097228
Based. I have a 5800x3D and I just disabled turbo boost. Still have enough perf and its very cool and quiet now.

>>109097239
Can you apply static volts to these? considering buying the re-release of the 5800x3d soon

>>109097243
I dont know, Im a noob at overclocking and undervolting. I just plain disabled turbo boost but I keep RAM clocks at 3200 MHz. My screen is 4k 144Hz so my main bottleneck is my 9070xt which I also heavily capped the power usage

>>109097228
>>109097236
actually i really recommend you disable PBO and entirely, then you know what's doing what and what is going on. Also i really doubt you'll be unstable at 1.1v 4.2ghz all core.

>>109097258
PBO entirely*
keep the static volts and clocks

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Found a MSI 3070 for $175. I can finally put my 1080 to rest. Feels good bros

>>109097236
>What does HWmonitor say about your voltages?
Not super sure about how to check as the sensor page only showed clock speeds.
On the "full mode" it moves around 0.45V the lowest but around 0.8-1.1V max. So it doesn't go above what was set as a max.

>>109097239
>>109097253
I also have a power limit on my 3060TI at 90% and a curve thing set up and lost no noticeable performance at all. It just uses less power and generates less heat.
I really have to wonder what the hell the default settings are supposed to achieve on these computer parts...

>>109097258
I'll see what happens during gameplay. If I encounter some issues it will be the first thing I'll try. I'm a bit paranoid messing with these so I kinda don't wanna return to BIOS if I don't have to and I pray I wont have to.

>>109097268
>I'll see what happens during gameplay. If I encounter some issues it will be the first thing I'll try. I'm a bit paranoid messing with these so I kinda don't wanna return to BIOS if I don't have to and I pray I wont have to.
your shit won't crash, and nothing would change it's just cleaner and you won't have conflicting settings

>>109097268
also i can see your infinity fabric runs at 1600, it runs at half the DDR4 speed so your RAM is doing 3200 for sure

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Anyone here ever cleaned a case from a smoker?

Over a decade ago I gave one of my old PCs to my dad. The HW is pretty outdated by now but the big all-aluminum Lian-Li case is still pretty nice so I asked for it back to do a build with it.
Problem is my father is a heavy smoker. I haven't gotten to look inside yet but assume it'll be full of tarred up dust. Anyone ever cleaned up something like that? I assume thorough scrub with soapy water and isopropyl alcohol should do the trick? I guess the fans and the PSU are goners?

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>>109097268
They maximize performance within safe longterm margins and chip variation. Its nice getting almost same perf while being way more efficient. It makes running a game feel like a light load instead of a vacuum blower blowing headt below my desk and making me all sweaty. Summer is hot enough already. Nice weather today

>>109097295
5800x chips get cranked so hard they start degrading after a while and run at twice the power draw they could be running at, all to gain an additional few 100s of mhz, it's ridiculous

>>109097288
Thanks for confirming. Was kinda weird seeing 1600 there when bios said 3200.

>instead of a vacuum blower blowing headt below my desk and making me all sweaty. Summer is hot enough already. Nice weather today
Yeah I had air conditioning installed last year and it was a life saver.
Couldn't use my PC at all for games before in summer because in this tiny room it functioned as a space heater

>>109097322
nice, running smooth now? dumping much less heat into the case so GPU prob runs cooler and quieter too

>>109097291
not a case but a laptop but it should be somewhat similar, it's pretty grimy and the tar's all sticky be sure to get some gloves and brushes and do it outside that stuff reeks other than that yes alcohol should be enough to clean it up, fans should probably be fine and cleanable though it's not like those are hard to replace not sure about the psu

The average 5080 buyer is a mouth breathing retard

>>109097650
im kinda starting to think x3d chip owners are too

>>109097662
only those who pair it with a 5070

>>109097662
not like there's any other good alternative
273pqe is locked to enterprise boards or requires bios mods which still limits it to ddr5-5600 and costs $900 off mouser while all of their other highend i9s/u9s have cuck cores

>>109097662
>>109097650
I have more respect for Intel buyers than AMD/Nvidia fags

>>109097809
why? because they spend $1000 on fast ram, a 270k+ and its still not faster than a 9800X3D?

>>109097820
>it's faster in every instance
>EXCEPT CS2 AT 1024X768 ALL LOW 550FPS VS 700

brand wars again?,

>>109097264
Mod the 3070 for 16gb vram and it'll be a keeper for years to come

>>109097809
I'm not super tech literate, but AMD stuff is easier to tell apart and easier to tell where the product is positioned and what positives/negatives the CPU comes with.
Back in the days you could get an i7 if you wanted something really good and any i5 was going to serve you well.
Now? Idk man.

>>109097878
should have come with 16gb from the start

>>109097820
Intel Thread Director actually works unlike AMDs chipset drivers.

>>109097878
>https://github.com/Nicoolodion/RTX-3070-16GB-GUIDE#tools-and-materials
not even remotely worth doing

>>109097921
who cares

>>109097897
surely you can google reviews and benchmarks at your level of literacy

>>109097936
New AGESA in July
Better performance
>who cares
Retard

>>109097941
you dont need fsr if you dont play trash games

>>109097945
What don't you understand about New AGESA or Better performance?

Old AGESA is trash for stability and fps.

>>109097878
>just do some advanced microsodering, ezpz

>>109097955
ok but you posted a pic about fsr