TOTL editionHow to request advice:>Budget>Intended use (media, source, environment)>Frequency response preference and music examples>Past gear and your thoughts on themFAQ:>Where do I buy IEMs?Amazon, Aliexpress, Linsoul, Hifigo, Shenzhenaudio>Shopping Guide (IEMs, PMPs, Cables, Ear Tips, etc.):https://consoomer-guide.pages.dev/>/iemg/'s Journal:https://iemgazette.pages.dev/>EQ Guide (EQ 101, Targets, Myths & Misconceptions, Papers, etc.):https://iem-eq-guide.pages.dev/>Measurements:https://iem-eq-guide.pages.dev/measurement-databases/>Budget Wire Over-Ear IEMs:• Tanchjim Bunny DSP (Mild U/5-Band PEQ) - $22• Truthear Gate (Mild V) - $22• EPZ Q1 Pro (V-shape) - $35>Bullet IEMs:• Tanchjim Zero Ultima DSP (Mild U/5-Band PEQ) - $22• Sony IER-EX15C (Warm/Dark) - $30• Etymotic ER2XR (Towards Neutral) - $140>Flathead Earbuds:• Blue Vido (Warm) - $5• Yincrow X6 (Warm) - $10>USB-C DACs:• JCally JM6 (Non Pro) / CX Pro - $8• JadeAudio JIEZI (10-Band PEQ) - $18• TRN Black Pearl (10-Band PEQ) - $38• Qudelix 5K (20-Band PEQ/GEQ) - $110>PMPs:• HiBy R1 - $85• HiBy M300 - $200>AVOID USING:• Mainboard audio when using multi-driver posPrevious Thread: >>109075953
>>109109230>OLA 2never tried the original, so not sure what to expect other than new=better
finally a TOTL edition. anyone heard this?
>>109109255Expect the unexpected.
my motherfucking hinge on my motherfucking DT 770 PROs broke and the cable is ripped open. Do I just buy a new pair or what
>>109109356They break all the time, try finding a replacement locally, people are even 3d printing them.
>>109109362yeah but the cable is fucked too, looks like something pulled on it. i dont think my soldering skills are good enough to get a good sound after the repair
>>109109380eh fuck it ill try soldering on a new wire. what do you guys recommend
>>109109436ill just get some fuckass wire nvm
>>109109230In leu of trying so many earbuds and IEM's and finding virtually none that can comfortably fit and being tired of spending so much money on buds that don't work out for me, i've opted for super slim, light headphones for mobile use. I had a pair of KSC75's + headband that finally died on me.I'm looking for a replacement and am just considering buying another pair, but between these options, does anyone have a recommendation?For reference, I prefer something not as warm as portapros and like a bit more clarity and detail compared to thumping bass.I'm between;KSC75KPH30iKPH40 RetroFiiO EH11Moondrop Old FashionedWired or wireless is fine as I often use a fiio BT receiver with wired ones.
>>109109436recommend, as in what to do?repair or replacewires are repairable and replaceable and the plastic is replaceable as wellhttps://north-america.beyerdynamic.com/p/slider-repair-kit-1000Otherwise buy new ones, online or locally, you don't need someone to tell you that.if you mean recommend by what do we recommend you buy instead, you've not given us enough info to give a recommendation, bud.
I want something portable. should I get an earbud or on-ears?
>>109109562flatpos hopefully
chinkfiman but better
>>109109729What is it listening to.
>>109109519I bought the KPH30i because of hype and did not like them at all. They sound really dark and muffled, and they are very uncomfortable because the foam is so thin. I would just stick with the KSC75.
How retarded would it be to spend money to have a metal box with a knob on my desk instead of a dongle
>>109109861just get a DAP with battery bypass
>>109109729I'm sold, what brand are those?
>>109109814https://youtu.be/6ce7KaR1i_U>>109110058blu vido
>>109109230>Sony IER-EX15CNever visited your thread but I needed earbuds and I ordered this first thing from the sticky? How fucked I am?
>>109109230monthly fomo gemeral
>>109110525What's fomo about it, a good pair should last for years.
>>109109867Any DAP that isn't straight up worse than a dongle?
do you guys have any thoughts/opinions on Active Noise Cancelling?
>>109109265no way you actually bought it
>>109110513Fine, you've skipped all chifi dongle and pos purgatory and went straight to the comfy jap pos. The only con is that the cable is fixed, so a roadie wrap is a must to avoid it breaking in a few months. https://youtu.be/_fsvANAT3yg?t=165
>>109110723yes i do but i won't share it
>>109110723I think it's dystopian.
>>109110877just got em, tested on Steven Wilsonsound is fine but pretty quiet
>>109109861>a knobnot retarded, it's valid to want to turn a knob for volume. reality is that iems paired with quality dongles are already peak. often desktop all-in-one DACAMPs focus on cheap power at the expense of noise floor, which is the more relevant metric for sensitive iems
any of you got moondrop pudding?how are they?
TOTLzo did you ever listen to luxsin s8?
>>109110877>roadie wrapI might be too low iq for this shit
>>109112642In particular I don't understand how it's supposed to hold together since I didn't make any knots? Do I just put it wrapped this way in my pocket?
>>109110556True.
>>109112494super* sleepy just posted a review yapping about it
How does the Crinear Reference physically achieve it's flat FR?
>>109113556...you just measure shit with bk5128 tune to jm-1
why is epz g10 so good, bros?
>>109113556>look inside >it's not flat
>>109110723A meme if you're moving faster than walking.
>>109113556>flatIt is not flat. Neutral, sure.>physically achieveAs with any other IEM, you tune the IEM with multiple drivers and crossovers.
my titan x is probably lost in the mail. no tracking updates since 14th and aliexpress wont do jack til mid july because that's the "due date" even if expected delivery date was the 19th.
>>109114572>It is not flat. Neutral, sure.that's the same thing
>>109114699Flat is too easily misconstrued, best to avoid it whenever possible.
>>109113779>explains fuck all
>>109109854And that's why i askI hear praise all the time for porta-pros in that regard, but they have that very dark, bass heavy, and not very clear sound signature compared to things like the KSC75's.
>>109114831and neutral isn't? it gets misconstrued just as much. amount of retards who think that neutral = boring is insane
>>109115503At least for neutral, people have more or less an idea of what it means: something that sounds even without any emphasis.Flat opens up a can of worms that most people aren't equipped to deal with, and is arguably a term that should not apply to IEMs/headphones. I agree that both get misconstrued, but neutral is much easier to explain than flat.
>>109113123That is a nice pair of sunglasses. I have a similar one.But my iems are more discreet.
>>109110758you think i could have gotten a better price?
>>109109230I am not even vaguely into this hobby so my assumptions may be falseAre you truly grossly overpaying for anything above a certain price point? What's the difference between the shittiest cheapest chi fi from the first section of OP's post and the ""SOTA"" ones? Is it that staggering?
Any recommondations for TWS <100 bucks for gym use?
>>109117008>What's the difference between the shittiest cheapest chi fi from the first section of OP's post and the ""SOTA"" ones?Heavier shells, thicker nozzles, wackier faceplates, higher distortion. Very stimulating for the imagination(60% of sound quality).
>>109117095All obsoleted by fox IEM anyway
>>109110723Gives me this weird pressure in my head
when is the tanchjim onahole releasing
Looking for advice for a PMP.Mainly FLAC, would appreciate battery life and tactile buttons, don't need a touchscreen.Used to have a Sansa clip and I want a similar but modern experience. Budget sub 150 euro,
>>109117232sony A25
Why the fuck does the cheap tanch bunny on ali only have mic version.
>>109112855>pocketthat's a bad idea, just buy a cheap case
>>109117008https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YUdNFLefVk&t=475s
>>109109230not IEM but I'm thinking of buying a pair of warmish planar headphones.I'm thinking between the Sivga P2 Pro vs Hifiman Edition XVAny experience with any of those headphones?I can get both for basically the same price
>>109118869oof
>>109119387>judging the FR alone>reviewer's measurementoof
>>109119882what kind of cope is that? I got curious and checked different measurements and all of them look exactly the sameSo you are just hoping that on YOUR head which introduces much more variations than a measurement rig these shitty headpos will sound fine because you are just built lucky like that?that's rather dumb
>>109119882I don't know man. I'm searching for warm planars because I know I'm sensitive around the ~1k and ~8k region.those humps look like pure hell for me
>>109119995well that's what the whole audio enthusiast industry runs on. hopes and dreams.
>>109118869just get a good dynamic if you want bass. planar bass is a meme
>>109120345>planar bass is a memeholy bait. do you own a planar anything?
>>109120345Yeah. I'll give you thatI like the dynamic bass more than planar bass. But I love the transient and decay of planars.So unless there's some headphones that can combine the two drivers perfectly (like the Huawei Freebuds pro 5, my beloved), I'd rather listen to planar headphones
>speakers>comb filtering>room modes>pos>no comb filtering>no room modesspeaker trannies lost
>>109121201>pos: sounds in your head>phone speaker: sounds outside of your headIt's not even a contest.
which should i buy between the HiBy R3 II and Hidizs AP80 Pro MAX?they're the same price
>>109121483butt or knob up to youshanling m1 plus has nearly 3x output power with virtually no downside compared to those though
>>109120440NTA but he's right
>>109121949>pic related- two planars with different bass profiles that suit different needs and kick ass doing so. both you and other anon's preferences match. nothing becomes automatically a meme from the simple fact you don't prefer something. I see you're hard-pressed to actually elaborate at this point, we know the answer to my question already.
>>109122063There is nothing special about planar bass that is intrinsic to planars. Bass profiles = differences in FR.And next time, post good planars.
>>109122082you own 0 planars and you have no basis of a real rebuttal besides your emotional attachment to your beliefs. >next time, post good planars.you own none, just like I said and just like you're avoiding to acknowledge. I accept your concession, thanks for playing.
>>109122095I own 1 planar after testing multiple and realizing they were more or less all memes.Pray tell; what is special about planar bass?
QuestionLooking for aftermarket tips for my space travels but there's not much on the oval dept. Is there any problem if I buy some regular circle tips? I'm guessing the materials just shape themselves to it but wanna be sure 1st.
>>109120440do you?
>>109122207ask yourself if you're even in the correct general, then you tell me.
>>109122290>only ever valid use of planar driversHe's right ngl.
>>109122129Spring tips are nice, give em the ol try
>>109122299>glossing over the fact that this is the wrong general and pretending we're talking about ALL planars.apparently we are, for some reason.
i accept your concession, and im not even that guy.hey, if you want to count hybrids, just tell me.
>>109122327>do you own a planar anything>anythingseems like moving goalposts to me
>>109122328Bad bait, props for posting an actual open pos tho.
original post was asking asking about planar headphones though?
lil nigga is just coping at this point. kinda sad.
im going schizo
>>109122354nothing a little EQ can't fix.
>>109122399what frequency to lower the voices?
>>109122427Any, as long as it's planar bass paired with BA treble
>>109122457will pzt work??
>>109122466crossover? I hardly know her!
>>109122129>any problem if I buy some regular circle tips?they can prevent the earpieces from fitting properly in the case. not always, but fairly common
Best IEM's for pregnant women?
>>109123104Blon Fat Girl
>>109123216mmm look at em bumps
>>109122097Not him but it's really simple.Planar headphones have better subbass extension and lower distortion than DD headphones, and if they depend on a good front seal they're also more tactile, most notably audeze.Planar IEMs do nothing but rape your ears with bad treble.
just boughted the nothing headphones (1) for 140
>>109123431Their shape is weird.
>>109123433i don't leave my house
>>109123431It's over
>>109123431enjoy your skull dent
Soundpeats H3 with ACG preset is one of the most enjoable things I've heard in a while. Currently my go to gym setup.Too bad they suck metric dick in what makes TWS a decent TWS (ambient mode, mic quality).
>$5>music>dunno, listen to nightcore city pop stuffwhat i get
>>109123881Iris 2.0
>>109123881A job.
>>109123881blu vido
>>109123881>what i getout
>>109123947>tin can soundstageI would say they are comparable to similarly priced wired pos. If I want to go wide I have Serratus and SA6-2 for that. As for swiss army knife of TWS Oneplus Buds 4 are way better deal for me (podcasts, walks and not getting hit by a car, calls, pocketability).
>>109122207ur opinion on verum and sjy audio?
An extremely expensive dac tube Amp setup + $15 nicehck shitbuds
yeah, nicehck are terrible and overpriced
>faiel
bedst flatpos south of $170 (now that FA Studio is unavailable)
>>109123943>>109123940>>109123912>>109123908>>109123895samefag replying to a single post this many times is mental illness
>>109124052You ought to take your meds mister
>>109124052lol, lmao even
Why is ea500lm so mid, bros?
>>109124062>makes fun of reviewers>repeats their opinions as gospel anyway to prove a point.I have big balls
>>109109267
>>109124117
>>109124117>>109124137You some kind of queer fellows?
>>109124167i fugg yer mum :DDD
>>109123431
>>109124075Imagine being so retarded that people assume every retarded post is made by you and end up right every time.
>>109124221This has been debunked.
>>109124431
>>109124431Took me 3 years of regular head message to get rid of mine. Fortunately I have full hair and never used Portas (which additionally pull hair and cause balding).
>>109124407>people assumeliterally one person bait posts to attract literally one person. you live such a small world you must really have convinced yourself you're ahead of the game. actual illness, and might I add- jealousy, envy, inner turmoil, etc. you act like /iemg/ is on your side
torn between moondrop pudding and earfun air pro 4 for tws that would be used exclusively for exercise where wires get in the way too much. anyone have any knowledge of how well moondrop's tws typically handle being sweated all over? can't find any reviews that comment on this in particular but the lack of ipx rating on any of them has me guessing they can't handle it at all.
>>109125407get Moondrop. it's the most reputable brand out of both your considerations as far as TWS goes. as far as rating goes, I'm sure they pass the Chinese one at least lol
>>109125459Earfun has been making TWS for longer than moondrop and moondrop is famous for dying from sweat. And they are both chinese. Did gpt-2 write this?
>>109125487>famous for dying from sweatwhere did you read that, reddit?
>>109125505Nigga missed everything lmao.
>>109125527oh man it's all over. do you really dwell in the past this bad or are you actually able to converse?
>>109125553
>>109125593it's a pattern where every 7th apple is yellow
>>109125505i did have clogging/paint issues with chu 1 back in the day and swore off moondrop 1dds after that, but i figured that specific issue wouldn't apply to their tws since the shells are plastic. i'm just imagining a separate failure mode where the electronics might get killed by sweat ingress. the peq on pudding is really appealing but i don't really want to have to test their sweat resistance myself.
>>109125650>wouldn't apply to their tws since the shells are plasticimo, it's the cheap filters themselves. replacement filters I got for Chu never had to be replaced, meaning the problem was mitigated. Don't get thrown off by the one anon trying to push their views on you thinking only their perspective matters. If you notice, they literally itch to fling shit at anons here, that's why this place is dead.
>>109125407Why not get something with an actual IPX rating.
>>109127493tempted by the peq and the shape of the pudding since small shells like most tws with stems don't seal well in my ears, unsure what with a proper ipx rating would deliver either of those things but would love to know if it exists
>>109125407>exclusively for exercisewhy not get cheaper shit like spacetravel 2 for exercises? >moondrop's tws typically handle being sweated all overI dunno but moondrop's QC is not the greatest
>>109109265>paying any amount of money for cables that become uncomfortable after 15 minutes Do goyim really.
>>109128325I'm surprised your gripe wasn't 4.4mm balanced
@TheHonestAudiophile gets it.
>>109129333>driver behavior DD is the best>dynamicsliterally in the name>stagingthere's a reason why all the wide staging, least isolating pos are DDs lel>timbreever heard of DD timbre? yeah, it's called being natural and coherent (no downside)>headroomliterally no distortion
dave loves tanchjim origin. we agree.
>>109125593as an autist I always hated those questions where you need to find "the" next numbermathematically, there's literally an infinite amount of possible patterns and it's very ambiguous so you have to figure out what the normie designing the question wanted you to answer
>>109129333noooo eq is exhaustive! my mono and duobuck iems from guangzhou sound better than fugaku hex and storm noo
>>109130239They don't have to sound better, they just have to sound good enough to make you happy.
>>109130239>fugakumost overrated pos ngl
The only purpose of multiple drivers is to achieve a desired FR. If you can achieve it with one good driver you obviously get a superior result. It's like building something out of legos vs casting it.
>>109130459>classic /iemg/ bait
>>109130742Bait so good that audio companies with R&D budgets the size of a small country fell for it.
Samsung is gonna hire empire ears engineers any day now...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm2dOAot1bk
>>109130989he posted 45 videos in a week i hope he's ok
>>109129333he'll fail to prove it
After buying multiple iems over the past 5 years, I've come to the conclusion that the most important factor in comfort and fit (at least for me) is not the nozzle size and the shell shape but the weight. Even a small iem like the Moondrop Lan slips out of my ear because they are so heavy.
>>109131775For me it's the angle of the nozzle. If it's not strongly pointing upwards it will slip out.
that brother got loose and ran through earsno iem will ever fill that void
>>109131775Since the cable goes over the ear, no matter the shape they should be staying in place.
>>109131775For me this is dictated solely by the tip. The shell size, shape, and aesthetics are second. Can't be a fat fuck ugly IEM. Cable goes third. Need a good cable to sit well around my beautiful ears, to not get tangled a lot, and to go with my fits.
Hi reccs pls>Budget350 eur>Music styleJap happy hardcore>Past gearMoondrop kato: really enjoyable sound with S&S tips, I would keep using them if the filters didn't keep clogging and if they hadn't started to look so shitty over timeddhifi surface: don't like how they sound at all, even if the bass IS there it just feels really bad and hollow to me. The treble also sounds sharp and fatiguingOpinions on the tanchjim soda and the dunu dn142?
https://youtu.be/QK9bEhsVgxg
>>109125407i did some more research and found that there is actually a tws that has both splash resistance for gym use and in-app peq (that isn't advertised well), the nothing ear 2024 model. it costs a bit more than i wanted to spend on a tws that i'm buying exclusively to put through the most abusive use cases, though. i ended up buying samsung galaxy buds core for $40 because the fit and features seem good and the fr looks good to me without eq. thanks for reading my blog.
>>109132163epz q1 pro
*911 BREAKING NEWS*Chu III coming soon !
>>109110723I like it but only pos have it. For some reason it doesn't exist outside of wireless trash.
>>109133409Will they fix the corrosion and clogging issues this time?
>>109133409I remember some anon asking moondrop about the chu 3 the other day and they said they had no plans for them.
>>109123881steal 5 more and buy AKG EO-IG955
I redeemed the pure. I hope it's not an uncomfortable pos.
>>109133673>アルミマグネシウム合金の振動板や真鍮製ノズルを搭載した、エントリークラスの有線イヤホンに対してSeems to be the same aluminum-magnesium alloy shell and brass nozzle pos.
>>109133409>>109133695That's not Chu III, that's III-Chu 3.
would foam tips on the truthear gate make it more noise isolating?
>>109133833They use the bamboo kanji 竹 for Chu in chinese. The chu are known as 竹 I, 竹 II, and 竹 III in China and Japan. It not III-chu 3 it's 竹 III or chu 3. Fun fact: Japan calls moondrop Suigetsuame.
>>109133836it depends on the spectrum of the noise, if it's mostly low frequency, passive stuff won't attenuate shit
I really like Truthear Gate, more than my old Bunnies. Would you recommend getting Truthear Pure? I'm tumbling down the slippery slope and not against paying the price if it's noticeably better. I'm mostly using IEMs for anime and J-rock/pop/metal/denpa.
>>109133966something you'll learn is that paying more for a given iem doesn't guarantee it's going to be "better" to you than a cheaper one in any particular way. at best a higher price can honestly reflect a higher parts cost in manufacturing or thoughtful r&d effort in tuning, but at worst it's truly disconnected from any real measure of value. so i'd discard the notion of "it may be worth 'upgrading' to the higher priced one" and think about it like "is the higher priced one worth it to me on its own?" independent of the relative price of other earphones. it's also a sad pathology a lot of us share, me included, to find an earphone you love and to have the reaction of "how do i spend more money on one that would be even better?" despite already having one you love.anyway, i would recommend autoeqing the gate to the pure and seeing if you find the sound quality to be improved by that. if you do, it's probably a fine buy.
Has anyone here designed & made their own IEMs? Is it even possible to make IEMs in 2026 if you're not in China?I have some ideas on what to make and I'll have some time this summer so I'm thinking about making something. Anyone have some ideas or similar ambitions?
anyone have or had this bad boy? Is it really that bad? either way i bought it on amazon,I'm really curious how it sound on my head.>>109134272you can make it but 100% of parts will be from china. U need lots of stuff: 711 coupler, soldering station, magnifying glass, something to hold that shit down, resin 3d printer ect. You can find drivers, connectors ect on aliexpress but be sure, prices for better stuff are crazy. You can try buying few shitbuds from china just to see how they works. There is lots of tutorial about that, long htread on headfi, lots of knowledge to learn about crossovers, 3d printing, measurments ect. Tbh its mouch easier to make full size headphone, there is decent 50mm dynamic drivers on aliexpress and lots of good open source projects like dms omega or that other guy that makes 3d printed stuff.DIY IEMs is like becoming a surgeon but no one will pay you for it
>>109133938just everyday noise from walking down the street. if I'm listening to stuff that's quite like a podcast or a lot of space in the mix traffic noise bleeds in. I can hear my music just fine, but cars passing by are a little annoying. I also have no idea what size to buy I found three measurements and I don't know which one to go by
>>109134272There's a diy thread on headfi, and final audio has make series, but there's actually very little reason to do this.
>>109134272Visiting your local audiologist greatly benefit you. You can get your hearing tests done as well as get your custom mold scanned to be used when you want CIEM made in the future.
>>109134399>very little reason to do thiscustom mold, better fit.
>>109134327>100% of parts will be from chinaI think I can make shells locally but I'm fine with buying drivers from China. Everyone else who makes IEMs in North America does the same thing.>U need lots of stuffI have everything needed and more (including lots of test equipment).>DIY IEMs is like becoming a surgeon but no one will pay you for itMaybe. But I don't plan on making cheapo or generic IEMs. I have an idea for something better.>>109134399>There's a diy thread on headfi, and final audio has make series,Thanks. I've seen that thread but don't want to wade through it and get sidetracked. > but there's actually very little reason to do this.Maybe. But what if I could improve the sound quality?>>109134416>Visiting your local audiologist greatly benefit you. You can get your hearing tests done as well as get your custom mold scanned to be used when you want CIEM made in the future.Excellent idea. I've done the scan last year and have the file but have not ordered CIEMs yet. The ones I wanted required the silicone imprint which I didn't get.>>109134423>custom mold, better fit.Exactly. My idea is to make not only a custom fit but also a custom sound.
>>109134454>But what if I could improve the sound quality?Literally the worst possible reason to make your own IEM.
>>109134464>Literally the worst possible reason to make your own IEM.To me that's the only reason why even do this. If they look great but sound like shit, it's not an audio device but a fashion statement.
>>109134476Sound quality is free.
>>109134476Don't take the bait. If the post is blatant contrarian bullshit, ignore her.
Comfort endgame was already reached and EQ gives you all the sound quality. You can't even design a cutter mascot for your pos. No reason to bother with DIY when Tanchjim exists!
>>109134488Got it. Thanks anon.
Without designing your own acoustic chambers and crossovers the only sound signatures available to you are aggressive v shape and pure mud. Not a single component you can buy can target only 5kHz or only 200Hz, which always cause problems. A complete waste of time.
>>109134533>Without designing your own acoustic chambers and crossoversBut that's exactly my value proposition.
>>109134533EQ solves your sound dilemma. Custom fit solves the isolation and comfort issue. Are you really going to dictate and criticise anon's personal experience?>>109134542I agree. The better move always is to go for what speaks to you, if only to make anons cry about your personal choices because they failed when making their own and have to take it out on anyone having fun. Good luck to you
>>109134542Well good luck soldering this.
>>109134597>I'll put 69 drivers inside my DIY IEM I'm sure the multi-driver techs are worth the time investment
>>109134542u cant do this without lots of try and error, good measuring equipment and knowledge of crossover circuit design. Good drivers from aliexpress are not cheap either and they still are not good for everything, you need few of them. I was thinking about it minus custom mold, i had 3d printer, soldering stuff ect but my bom for my project was more than 300usd (just for few drivers from aliexpress.You can find guide PDF where someone compilled info from DIY iem thread on headfi about everything important. Also there is github of some kind of open source iem or somtehing like that, also lots of stuff to learn there.But yeah, everything more than 1dd and 1ba, with good quality drivers, with good crossover and tuning, with good build quality will be bigger project that u ever thought it would be.
>>109134594I am going to criticize anon for doing this primarily for sound reasons, yes. There are better reasons, even if they aren't very good either. Even custom molds are not a no-brainer. You get better noise isolation and fit security, but long term comfort is worse. Some might even argue strong isolation is worse for sound quality.
>>109134650>Some might even argue strong isolation is worse for sound quality.But EQ is free, though. Something about length modes and HRTFS, right?
>>109134594>I agree. The better move always is to go for what speaks to you, if only to make anons cry about your personal choices because they failed when making their own and have to take it out on anyone having fun. Good luck to youThanks anon! I'll keep /iemg/ updated on my learnings.>>109134597>Well good luck soldering this.I have a stereo microscope and an iron for microsoldering. I've repaired my phone and modded my Switch in the past. That stuff doesn't intimidate me at all.However, I will not use this type of construction in my IEMs. That looks like a nightmare to torubleshoot.>>109134635>u cant do this without lots of try and error, good measuring equipment and knowledge of crossover circuit design. Good drivers from aliexpress are not cheap either and they still are not good for everything, you need few of them.You've def given this some thought, as have I. None of those are actually big issues. Once you stop thinking about competing on price alone, you can easily ignore a lot of these issue. I don't plan on competing with Moondrop. Simgot, Final or any of these budget brands. I plan on making custom IEMs.Yes, I've read that PDF last year. Learned a bunch. Got some ideas. But I'd like to go down a path that's kinda counterintuitive and experimental. >But yeah, everything more than 1dd and 1ba, with good quality drivers, with good crossover and tuning, with good build quality will be bigger project that u ever thought it would be.Of course. I don't expect to have a product within a few months.Anyway, if anyone is interested in this and maybe even wants to collaborate or bounce ideas around, this is my SimpleX address so just add me.
>>109134744How do I EQ noise isolation.
>>109134744>LLMzo just typing shit again
>>109134757ask the angry, yet highly knowledgeable and very trustworthy furry >>109134778>"Good catch! You were right to call me out on that!"big oof. you'd fare better visiting a shrink than you would an audiologist.
>>109131775>Even a small iem like the Moondrop Lan slips out of my ear because they are so heavy.Are they not sealing well? if IEM has seal it should be pretty secured? I need to apply a decent amount of force to pull them out
>>109135127I get a good seal, but heavier iems just start slipping from my ear after a while. I do have somewhat small ear canals too.
>>109135193grippier tips should do the trick
>>109109230Is the JCally JM6 Pro really that bad?
>>109133966>I really like Truthear Gate, more than my old BunniesMy ear canals are very short and I can push most IEMs VERY deep. Bunnies go in the deepest lol. It introduces very bright 9000+ treble with crazy as fuck peaks there which are very annoying to EQ out. Plus because of that bunnies have less consistent fir. Meanwhile gates with their short nozzles, short-wide tips and relatively bulky shells simply can't go too deep. Literally only POS I own that I can listen without EQ... And I unironically like them more than most other shit I have (like daybreaks or sm4 or whatever). Now I don't think their FR is actually ideal for my HRTF still... but it's much better than treble sandstorm I get with most other things. >Would you recommend getting Truthear PurePure will have significantly different fit and it will put length modes on different frequencies so even if pure's FR might be considered better and more warm-neutral it doesn't mean they will actually be better for you. Their nozzles are significantly longer too. So I'd be cautious about that.
>>109134454>But what if I could improve the sound quality?why not just EQ?
>>109135360nah, it's just insanely powerful for most pos, and it drains battery off your cellphone way faster
>>109134750Don't forget about the faceplate techs.
>>109133409without their best engineer, who is now in Truthear, the new Chu might turn out either nice or dogshitnevertheless, I'm hyped>>109133800the Chu 2 has zinc alloy, it's the driver that's made of Al-Mg
any anon that has tried their hand at DIYing properly knows that there is zero net benefit to making your own posit'll cost more, sound shittier, and look worse than abundantly available choices in the market
Threesome?
>>109136221>zero net benefit for anons building their own guitars, speakers, synths, amps, or PCs...well one-off DIY usually costs more but that's what economies of scale means. doesn't mean there's zero net benefit. people DIY because they enjoy building things to learn, customize, prototype, repair..of course there's an overall benefit.>"proper DIY" is autism maxxing, just look at the mechanical keyboard general
>>109137069there is a difference between learning and objective results. if you can't parse what i was trying to say, you are autistic>proper DIYmeans proper design and engineering and not just shit thrown together because of muh driver memes (>80% of audio pos coming out were made like this btw)
>>109137104now it's the typical shifting goal posts so let's be clear here: "zero benefit to DIY" and "proper means proper engineering" aren't the same thing, and to say “proper DIY means proper engineering” is just arguing semantics. that excludes the entire category you’re talking about. >if you can't parse what I was trying to say..so forgive me for being baffled by your wild takes but you're just narrowing definitions until they fit. meaningless constant redefining everything to suit your worldview isn't a real rebuttal if you're just being contrarian for contrarians sake. you seem like you are bloodthirsty.I think we've now said as much as we could on this, so before this devolves into shit flinging, I accept your concession.
>>109137192>"zero benefit to DIY" read the exchange, there is no objective benefits. >"proper means proper engineering" aren't the same thingwho said this?>“proper DIY means proper engineering” is just arguing semantics.i clarified my sentence, how do you still not understand. compare this with your "autism maxxing" incoherent sentence, what does that have to do with anything?you can write whatever you want, but if you can't understand or even bother to read what was said before, you shouldn't participate at all. anon was talking about stuff like "i can make them have better sound quality", the personal/mental/educational/spiritual benefits of DIYing pos was never within the scope.Concession accepted.
>>109137219>there is no objective benefits.>>109137069>people DIY because they enjoy building things to learn, customize, prototype, repair..you only clarified that you are only willing to stick to your worldview. go back to /mkg/ where it's safe
>>109136248What is happening in this picture, is this how you're supposed to maintain your in ear monitors?
>>109137234>autist still can't understand that objective benefit here refers to the quality of the pos and requires inhuman levels of details and precision within the same sentence because they have no long term memory capabilities (retention longer than 2 seconds)Concession received and approved.
>>109137245>meaningless babble insertedsounds nice but doubling down on being a crybaby chud who can't have a conversation isn't helping your case today
>>109137256>anon can't read a sentence longer than 2 secondsDuly noted, concession endorsed.
yo random guy here,a "simple" ola2 and chu3 legitimately have more research and development to maximize the performance of 1dd than you could ever accomplish ever. acoustic analysis, wave simulations, chamber optimization, etc.the level of dunning-kruger lol>hey guise idk anything so tell me info so i can make muh own iemslike no retard, you are just gonna shove chink components together and achieve an abysmal FR (blackpilled hint: means it'll sound bad too). you're not gonna reach some magic pinnacle of sound because you, with your own hands, shove some sonion BAs in a generic shell.
>>109137307>ola2>1ddlol
I haven't been here in a while, but I'm glad to see that Asano is still winning
Chu 2 always wins baby
>>109112494i do, great value for the price and i appreciate the parametric eq, but i wish it had aptx or ldac instead of lhdc
I'm looking for new ANC bluetooth earphones since it's summer again and normal headphones get hot. I used to have Sennheiser Momentum TW3, but I had to replace them 3 times under warranty for the glue inside them melting and ruining the ANC. The last time it happened I didn't even bother anymore and now they are just collecting dust. I really liked the sound quality though, and I'm wondering if the newer TW4 has these issues fixed. What other options are there in the 150-300 price range for excellent sound quality and an ANC?They will be used 8 hours/day at work, so they need to be durable.
>>109137307all the research and development and chu3 will still clog in 2 monthshmmm>acoustic analysis, wave simulations, chamber optimization, etc.any proof they actually do any of that shit?
>>109137461>but i wish it had aptx or ldac instead of lhdcwhat's the problem with LHDC?
>>109137494only chinkphones have, the only lhdc dongle usbc also unfortunately does not work with it, i bought and tried it. maybe future firmware will fix that tho
>>109135265Are there any grippy silicon tips? I'm currently using SpinFit CP145 (small) and while the fit is good they get somewhat slippery after a while. I tried using foam tips in the past but they just feel itchy and uncomfortable.
>>109134079>>109135367Thanks anons, I'll stay with Gate for some time.
What’s the modern es100? Mine finally diedzadixyej
>>109137610yes, spring tips are super grippy
>>109137690https://timeear.com/products/high-performance-dac-headphone-amplifier-bte-9
>>109137419Wins what exactly.
>>109137966The fastest clog in the West award.
>>109138331Faster than OG Chu?
eq eo-ia500 channel balanced to the ie900 average, the superior white mans target, crafted by sennythe most speaker like experience in a room without the Harman shoutiness
>>1091387741/2
>>109138774>>1091387932/2
>>109138774IEMs can't sound like speakers without head tracking.
Stop buying the Samsung earphones because some retarded jeet told you to. 90% chance you get fake ones. Get the real ones and get channel imbalance. Get the real ones and have to resort to EQ, which sounds like shit. EQ your current pos to some jeet meme target - It sounds like shit. Congratulations, at least 50% of the volume is gone too. Good job. Great going. EQ is cope. EQing especially to some mentally ill jeet's made up target is even more braindead behavior. Quit being retarded goycattle. This is the best advice you'll ever get in your entire feeble life.
>>109139677>Congratulations, at least 50% of the volume is gone too. Deaf people problems.
>>109139677I just bought them because they're cheap and have treble extension very close to my mega7 but they're bullets so they're easy to use outdoors, I imported my impulse response with channel balance and EQ to my personal favourite tonality (ie900 averaged) and kept the treble extension of the eo-ia500, it's just what I personally wanted to do, I'm not Eqing to sharurs shouty harman target, I'm scooping out 3k to let treble breathe.
>>109139677>>109139719imported into rootlessjamesdsp on my Android phone that is, and I use Spotify or local flacs with just a small JM20 Max dongle.
>AI generated photos of their flagship IEM What the fuck is wrong with them.
>right pos stops working>throw it really hard at the floor>faint sound>throw it as hard as i can again>back to normalhuh
>>109109230xixtas, our tots ?
>>109139677disregard- a troon wrote this
>>109141323Do you speak Chinese? I can't read any of that.
>>109141375no? just look at the pics bruv
>>109141323>useless tweeter for an air spike that they've already achieved with their DDEmbarrassing.
Never tried IEMs before, rec me up>$100, less if I need to buy aftermarket parts>general, non-audiophile use>no preference, I don't think I have enough autism for FR>a couple of <$20 on-ears, and this low end Logitech with fixed cable closed-back over-earsI guess my sound quality requirement is pretty low because sound-wise, they've all been good enough for me so far. My main complaint is that I had to replace them once the left and right channels start sounding uneven. I need longevity and serviceability.>replaceable cable and eartips>compatibility with aftermarket options. Ubiquitous > unicorn.>I'll have to buy silicone tips if they don't already have it out of the box>I probably have to buy a 2m cable. Most models I've checked so far only have 1.5m or shorter.>will connect straight into the PC 3.5mm port. Not even gonna bother getting a DACI was checking out pic related, but supposedly IEMs are a better option at this budget, so yeah.
What are some of your favorite overlooked pos? CKLVX D62 for me. Probably my favorite percussion soundfrom all pos. Not without flaws but I love them for female fronted jrock and doujin music (most forward vocals I have in my collection).
>>109141684EPZ Q1 Pro gets the highest rec based off amazing stock tuning, amazing technicalities and amazing comfort.You'll enjoy it so much, you won't feel the need to upgrade- ever.
>>109141323>~$35USDnice. wish they'd change that shell/nozzle shape though. also cable looks old tanya tier
>>109121201All audio is an illusion. And speaker phantom center is the most magical audio illusion of all. If your data gets in the way of the illusion then your data is wrong. Like when a surround setup was tested in an anechoic chamber, and the result sounded like headphones, the hypothesis that room interactions are harmful was buried right then and there.
>>109141342>disregard- a troon wrote this
>>109141684no, you should not plug straight into your pc. a $10-$35 dongle dac gives you far better performance than your pc for both iems and headphones. also usb-c dac allows you to extend with a usb cable, which is superior to extending the length of the analog connection. opus op.22 iems and trn black pearl dac
>>109141899I don't know if this is overlooked but I bought the P20 on sale and turn up the volume for a fat sound that I can't replicate on other iems. It's not good for shimmery guitar but it hits the right spot for specific genres
>>109142516graphs similar to pre-revision mp145 which i also love for high-volume listening. based
>>109142372I just need the audio to be good enough, I don't care if it's nowhere near audiophile level. I do, however, need an IEM rec that doesn't get too bassy or whatever the hell surprise buttsex if it's plugged into onboard audio.>>109141905I'll check this one out, but early search lookin like it's not too available in my area.
Realistically, will anyone be able to tell the difference between some of the DAC/Amps recommended here and the <$10 apple dongle?
>>109139677Havent been in iemg for a while. We recommending Samsung earphones now? Based.
>>109142362
>>109141323uuh so they are using BA for some retarded 12k treble peak?so unnecessary holy shit
>>109143215>12k treble peak>so unnecessaryEQ is free. holy shit.
Could i replace my PC headphones (PC38X) with something in-ear? i.e wired, decent microphone Over-ear gets uncomfortable after awhile. Budget $300, toggleable active noise cancellation would be a bonus
>>109143215it's honoring the timeworn tradition of "unfiltered ba thrown haphazardly in the nozzle" pioneered by the artisans at kz, you wouldn't understand
>>109143264if you want a boom mic, there are a few options from Celest. their iems like the Wyvern aren't bad and the value of the whole iem package is often better than buying the boom mic cable by itself. because it is standard 2-pin, you can then use it with most other iems. crinear daybreak and epz p40 are two different flavors around $150
side tangent, but i'm pretty sure epz p40 or similar model is even being marketed as a gaming iem + a boom mic though i'm not sure if it's under a different brand name (epz is an OEM for other companies). i've seen some gamers using an iem with similar faceplate to p40 recently
>>109143264moondrop rays
>>109109230what did you guys do to headphone general when I need it most
>>109144248everyone gets bored after a day or two, not much really to discuss and having to deal with third worlders who want a totl headphone for sub $200 usd gets boring, or anc trash that literally no one cares to even bother with anymorequite literally every single knowledgeable headphone recommendation from 5+ years ago still holds now because everything good that comes out is so overpriced that no one is ever going to recommend them over shit like the6x0aeonlcd 2hd 800r70x etceverything chinese is garbage, has no qc and barely lasts and just ends up being more expensive than buying anything decent
What's the difference between these two and is there even a point to buying them over a $8 apple dongle?https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005011591671063.htmlhttps://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005008743608298.html>>109144248Headphones got solved when massdrop released the HD6xx so it sort of became obsolete
>>109144369okay then i'll try my luck here, i'm undecided between these 2 dac+amp interfaces, using HD 660S2 / 300ohmsaudient id14 mk II>99mw (usb-c self powered)>seem to be nice software and asio driver>built in mixer replacing windows mixerbut>unbalanced 6.35mm>one chip, though studio qualitytopping dx5 II>990mw (wall powered)>two chips for left and right>balanced 4.4mmbut>chink shit>uses default windows mixer>spdif only goes straight to the ears instead of into the OS as an additional deviceside note about the one chip vs two chips, balanced vs unbalanced, I don't want my sub bass extension, imaging, separation, headroom etc to be "downgraded" but AI is telling me topping's two chip solution provides intangible difference to the human ear. I want to lean toward audient because it's not chink shit, topping seems to take the classic chinese approach of brute forcing with nice numbers and specs
DAC (or amps) requiring driver to be installed on PC will never stop being funny. Apple dongle supremacy.
>>109144446Even specifications aside, the topping unit was blowing up peoples headphones so you should just buy anything besides thatim unfamiliar with the 660s but own 6xx, and jewgle says they are identical for power, so basically anything will work fine with them, they are probably the easier to drive headphone in my rotation and even an o2 had too much power on low gain to even need close to full volume for me >>109144428Headphones got solved when massdrop released the HD6xx so it sort of became obsoletebasically, but the $129 price didnt last long and by the end i think the $200 difference for aeons made a lot of sense considering most people end up wanting planars at some point anyways
>>109143175Shalom
Took my OG cadenzo's out for a spin today since last time their filters had died due to my sweat and cum abuse. Well it turns out all I had to do was probe the filters a bit and make em loose so they could have some wiggle room. Literally.And surprisingly it worked like a charm unlike last time. Honestly I forgot how good these barrylium pos sound especially compared to my now daily drivers wanker studio edition which lack the "air" or atmosphere somehow. Guess the best iem is the one you already have collecting dust in your drawer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajbyakiJti0
>>109145499Nigga you started balding a month after you bought it.
>>109144446Sennheisers are made to be played from literal shit. Those high power amps are for low ohm planars. Focus on the interface features you need. Motu interfaces are pretty good. Maybe get a standalone amp after that. High ohm headphones need high gain amps, which are harder to find than the usual high power amps.
Tanchjim onahole prototype is coming soon !
>>109145499every audeze headphones need EQ to sound right. just save the money and buy a lcd2 at most or look somewhere else
>Linsoul TANGZU Wan’er S.G HiFi 10mm Dynamic Driver PET Diaphragm in-Ear Earphone with Ergonomic Shape, Detachable Recessed 2Pin OFC Braided Cable for Audiophile Musician DJ Stage(White, with Mic)Ordered these for my mom after her airpods broke. Am I a good son?
>>109147780is your mom a musician, dj or stage hand? if not, you dun fucked up
i became bald when i started using iems because i hated getting hair caught when putting them on, the earhooks not resting properly because of my long hair, and hair always getting on my face because i didnt have a sort of headband to push all the hair back. so i just shaved my head so i wouldnt have to deal with that shit anymore
>>109147780>gee thanks sonny *smooch*>(I shouldn't have smoked during pregnancy, poor autistic baby thinks people are still using wired earphones in Anno Domini 2026)>buys another pair of airpods immediately
after listening to IEMs consistently over 2-3 years or more I can't stand listening to music on speakers or any other way, it all sounds too bassy or overwhelming or some shit; does anyone else have this issue or feeling?
>>109148439No, but I tune my IEMs bassy too. My current speaker setup is the bassiest it's ever been actually, flat to 20Hz and with a bass shelf.
>Get T50RPs because le high value>out of the box they sound horrendous. way too much treble>mod #1: Stuff them with cotton. It only lowers the bass a bit>mod #2: Get shure 840 pads.A little better comfot than the OGs.>mod #3: "Doggie treats" with electric tape.It controls the treble somewhat, but It's still too bright>mod #4: paper towel in front of driver.tames the treble even more. But It still too bright with no bass>mod #5: Tape 6 out of 8 vent holes in the baffle.Turns the headphones into bass canons. A little less clarity on lower-mids. But I think It's a great trade off for stuff like Jpop.the treble isn't an issue anymore since the higher bass lowers the overall volume I need.I went from regret purchasing these headphones to loving them WTF>>109122129that nozzle shape looks very similar to the Huawei freebuds nozzle. Maybe you can look for eartips for those
>>109147865>musician, dj or stage handthose people don't use chinese hype market pos.
>>109144369>>109144492I have a long list of boxes I need to check, Google AI is matching me up with K9 and K9 Pro, and I happen to find a K9 Pro only $30 CAD more expensive than K9. Think I'll just pull the trigger on that one and cancel my Audient. If Fiio or K9 / K9 Pro sucks balls, speak up now
>>109148828just use EQ bruh
>>109149047I tried EQing them at first but they sounded like shit.I believe there are some physical properties to sound you get from passive tuning that can't be recreated by just EQing your headphones.
>>109149104Skill issue.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVW53wmo-04
>>109149034i used to use fiio k7bt but stopped using it due to frequent random audio dropouts that started when i went from using windows 10 to windows 11, support just shrugged and no driver or fw updates ever fixed it
What software are people using for playing music? Currently on clementine but there are enough interface annoyances that I am thinking about trying something different.
>>109149284Phone-MusicoletPC-Wacup
>>109149284android:hiby musicw11:musicbee
>>109149034>K9 and K9 Pro,anon what is going on with youyou might have now posted the two absolute worst AIO that have hit the audiophile market in the last 5 years, the k9 pro was literally mass dying 13m into it's 12m warranty, its a total piece of trash i could of bought the k9 pro twice at $300 cad and refused to because it's just a waste of money, chinks cant even solder in 2026 and warrantying from them isn't real as stated above
let him reap what he sows
>>109149284symfonium linked to navidrome on android, foobar2k on windows
>mainly/only care about brightness>exposure slider fixes any photo>photography solved
>>109149354have you tried either of them? where can one find where all these negative impressions are to read thru more thoroughly?
>>109149370not him but you can prob check amazon reviews
>>109149034>>109149354I think the only non dog shit ones you can realistically look at, unless you want a massive gamble on the chance either your headphones blow up, or your aio dies literally for no reason is something thats very expensive like one of those RME AIOS or something from moonaudio, very expensive but thats the only time i've heard of total AIOS not being horrible in every single way, usually it just makes more sense to do what anon here says >>109146903>>109149370topping one you posted was literally causing a total chaos storm on ASR because one user blew up like $3k in headphones with it, on reddit they were all dying too, they were all getting posted in /hpg/ so we would make fun of them but the based op poster doesn't make em anymorethe k9 pros were always dead on 13m, just spend 5 mins on reddit and you'll see 10 different people same story, chink warrantying is like that where they will put 1 year warranty on a 800 AIO because they know it wont lastlinkshttps://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/topping-dx5ii-balanced-dac-and-headphone-amp-review.64264/page-87https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/1p9hn7z/suggestions_to_replace_my_fiio_k9_pro_it_died/https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/1dn8xei/rest_in_peace_fiio_k9_you_served_me_well_for_2/you can't buy the absolute cheapest made AIOS and expect anything but chink death, but you do you anon
>>109149354I mean if you don't have anything better to recommend then>all in one dac+amp for desktop use>4.4mm balanced no fake shit, separate internal topology, minimal cross talk, etc>ruler flat, surgical sterile sound, extremely fast, no colored warmth bullshit>powerful to drive dnb's wild voltage swings, sub bass extensions, separation, imaging, head room, etc>asio driver for bit exact foobar then hardware mixed back with windows/browser/etc>bonus for any care to lessen interferences and coil whineFor reference K9 Pro is $449 USD, and would be 1100mw per channel with HD 660S2
>>109149354>>109149401I mean it's amazon so I can easily cancel the orders if you have anything better that fits my needs. The RME I saw did seem overly expensive
>>109149438>K9 Pro is $449 USDJDS labs element 4
>>109149284foobar2k is undefeated by everything except for people who get filtered by setting it upfooyin on linux is a horribly made clone, i spent like 4 hours one day cloning my foobar2k setup and it still breaks sometimes for no reason while still missing features>>109149438There are things to recommend like i said above, they are just incredibly expensive because combining audio equipment into one unit has never not been either expensive or a disaster the only non kilobuck one i'm aware exists that isn't dog shit is thishttps://jdslabs.com/product/element-iv/
>>109149507I'm feeding JDS labs element 4 into google and this is what it has to say>unbalanced, single ended circuit>K9 Pro is 3x more powerful>no background mixingbut>good electrical safety netsorry but it looks to be a fail on basically all of my needsat least amazon offers warranty for like $50
I listen music on youtube
>>109149607you don't need audiophile gear to listen to dnb. go ahead and pull that trigger on the fiio if you want
>>109149607have you been ragebaiting this entire time? I gotta work on my social skills i give people too much credit
>headpos actually have to think about source gearhumiliation hobby
>>109149644or you're not good at making suggestions if you're so off the mark
>>109149654no one does unironically but redditors who do what anon above is doing>buy a $200 headphone>think you need some $800 AIOi'd say almost 100% of the time someone just buys an affordable amp/dac stack for like $150-200 or uses an apple dongle
The HD0660S2 uses the dogshit HD700 driver so what are we even talking about
blud bought a sennheiser to listen to drum and BASS LMAO
>>109149666Well yes if you're calling them $200 headphones and calling them $800 AIO which are literally no true on both counts
>>109149687it is a $200 headphone, they just put it to some insane msrp for nigger cattle to buy it at an insane market up, the k9 pro is $680+import fees cad on aliexpressidk why your being so strange
bro get the D&A Alpha for $400. gobs of power
Claiming that you need an AMP for your headphones is the most successful industry plant the goys have ever done.
>>109149687>>109149698>msrp 660s2 at 800 cad (more than aeons, or my used hd 800 btw)>regularly go on sale for $350 off so nigger cattle think its some insane deal, when in reality the 6xx was profitable $129 usd, so the real price for profit on this is probably similarfor the price of the 660s2 on sale, and a k9 pro even used at like 400 this is such a retarded waste of money, but you can do whatever you want, if /hpg/ didnt die i would of told you to just get used aeons and some decent amp stack and you would of been so much happier >>109149733there was a time you really did, now they are so cheap most of the time the knob alone makes it worth iti mean my last schiit stack was like $100 cad for a magni3+ and modi3+, i sold the amp and got a free dac, second time i've done that
>>109149682This isn't a single genre in history that wouldn't receive the same response hereNo wonder >>109144369 said /hpg/ doesn't exist anymore because it is evidently impossible to engage in meaningful discussion here, so all that's left is shitposting>>109149741>if /hpg/ didnt die i would of told you to justI'm still open for suggestions but 90% of the time it's just shitposting. I already laid out the checkboxes. This thread will literally do anything but show some attempt to use it. But I respect your opinion to ditch my 660S2. Yes they were overpriced but Sennheisers are cocksuckers but they work so well so I want to replace this useless tube amp I was given because they don't work well with this genre.
>>109149850A genre that sounds good on sennheisers has not been invented yet.
>>109149850I got 0 sleep so im not as autistic with laying out points as i normally am, im just going to assume your new to audio if you aren't ragebaiting>>109149850>This isn't a single genre in history that wouldn't receive the same response herehes just saying that because planars mog the bass extension and punch of everything sennheiser makes, hd 800 included, like the worst possible genre of music to listen to and buy 6x0 line is electronic. >I'm still open for suggestions but 90% of the time it's just shitpostingIm not shitposting, im just being very honest with you, chinese audio gear in audio is rough, like brutally rough. You will regularly see chinkfiman buyers with multiple broken models, topping faggots with a stack of bricks, fiio trash literally falling apart constantly.>4.4mm balancedthis is popular specifically in the iem spear for portable digital audio players, it's balanced but a lot less protruding so you can make reasonably sized DAPs, in desktop audio this isn't really a big deal and standard XLR is going to be more popularalso, that ele4 has enough power to deafen you multiple times over, and basically any budget amp like the 02,magni 3 etc already have enough as a base level so that shouldnt be something to worry about in any AIO as a general pointAny decent non R2R/multibit dac will be clean enough for you, so that req is met by anythingI honestly don't see the point of AIO in any sense except those RME ones for autists, and they are beautiful but if you are anal about them it really is just the ele4 is insane spec btw, chat bots are fucking retarded in audio beccause they are being filtered by head-fi schizos and redditors who post literal snake oil anecdotes and it ruins the algo, happens all the time
i have only kept the og ananda after years and i agree with anon above, chinkshit is not yet up to par. they might be slowly catching up, we're seeing a lot of progress but they're still a bit off the mark
>>109149924>planar vs ddI'm aware of this part, I had the opportunity to try out LCD-X next to my 660S2 and I couldn't explain to you why I still prefer the Shitheiser although it came pretty close. On paper yes planar should do sub bass extension better but something about the rumble felt better on 660S2. So I'm more cautious on betting everything on paper specs and theory.redpill me on SMSL DO400 (yes after the fact that this is still chink shit) and iFi Neo iDSD 2, though the Neo seems to be too expensive and difficult to acquire in Canada because they're bong based
>headpos still so unbelievably retarded they can't interpret measurementsfukin 'ellanyways, new bread?
>>109150014>I'm aware of this part, I had the opportunity to try out LCD-X next to my 660S2 and I couldn't explain to you why I still prefer the Shitheiser although it came pretty close.Audeze is notorious for being super dark, to the point a lot of anons will never tell anyone to buy them without eqing. They are probably one of the highest rates of resell too because the weight neck mogs incels really hardreally aside from the ones posted i can't speak with any expertise, there is just too many fucking amps made to keep up with and i refuse to buy chinese anything and stuff at that pricey like the britbong model i would only ever consider if i seen one on marketplace used, thats how i get most of my deals anywaysmissed a 230had for $400 and that was maybe the only time i would of considered one even though i'd never recommend anyone buy chinese i've heard less bad about smsl over all but who knows with chink soldering, basically any model amp chinks have ever made if you check ebay there are more dead units than working on resale. Quite literally everything ASR jerked off coincided with being horribly made, even back to his original break out jacking off the 789/889 from thx/drop
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