Just upgraded from 1650 super to 6600xt for $150 woohoo. I can play diablo 4 comfortably again.

Could someone spoonfeed me a 5080 build? Or is this pre built worth it?
bestbuy.com/product/hp-omen-35l-gaming-desktop-intel-core-i7-14700f-2024-32gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-5080-1tb-ssd-shadow-black/JJGTWYTS68

>>109115452
buy an ad

Can I get a build with
>5060ti or better
>32GB of RAM
>1TB SSD
>Decent CPU that can game and run a few relatively intensive programs at the same time
For about $1400 to $1600 in the US? (No microcenter)
Thank u

>>109115484
get a 7800x3d, that's the build

>>109115484
>Decent CPU that can game and run a few relatively intensive programs at the same time
This is never going to be the case, unless you're talking about solitaire

it's a mild improvement but it is an improvement, numbers will probably be better on linux
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNWjZx-3amk

valve failed me so thinking of building my own
gonna get this bundle:
https://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/BDL_MM00005699
need help filling out the rest of the parts, ideally all from memory express since i live near one. it's fine if the stuff is out of stock on the site i can just stop by another time when they restock.
ideal budget around same as the steamcube in leafbucks but i'm fine with going over since i know our monopoly money isn't worth much.

>>109115484
you need a 9950x3d2

dont update adrenalin on windows 10

What's the best I can do with $3000 USD?

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Wow just learned about XMP and apparently I've been using 2666mhz for years!

Need help picking out a 1 Tb PCIe 4.0 SSD with a cache to finish out my build. It's mostly for flight sim games on Linux so I want a decent one, $200 is fine. Are the ones in the OP good? Any I should look at in particular? Ignore the ones in my build list.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3LL6rG

why did AMD remove the FSR4 libraries from github (which you can still get btw), we know it runs on older gpus

>>109115625
>he bought a 6700 xt

updated my retarded drivers on windows 10 and now I'll have to ddu and reinstall the older version because shitmd can't do anything right

>>109115625
Because it's not ready and you'll probably a get a bunch of shit like how the retards using the leaked dll got shimmering and other shit before AMD released it for rdna3

>>109115637
i have a 7900xtx / 395+

>>109115666
they were pushing their fidelityfx shit as fully open source etc, so it seems like they're reneging on it.

>>109115577
5080, 9800x3d/9850x3d, 32GB or 64GB ram, storage idk. Look at microcenter prebuilts.

>>109115743
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/L76cH3
Anything you'd change? I've built something on this case before and was quite comfy

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Latest AMD driver v26.6.2 is broken...
I just want to play BF1...

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>AMD Drivers

buying anything amd is crazy
deserved

>>109115799
it's only for windows 10, amd is retarded, I ddu'd and came back to 26.6.1 which was a great driver I don't even know why I upgraded, gonna stay here forever now
it's actually great having a fresh installation

>>109113163
Yeah. I was curios since and I thought I was likely to return it because user reviews weren't great (mostly quality control issues), but it came pristine and it's way better than I expected it to be. So I'm keeping it.

>winblows
There's your problem

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so why is this $1049 from Valve™?
the cpu and gpu in mine are also stronger, and I can upgrade the cpu/gpu/ram.

>>109116069
It's a small cube with custom parts.

>>109116069
this pc is 30% stronger than the steam cube, but also uses far more power

>>109116099
it still uses as much power as a console though. mini-PCs are anywhere from 15-115. I think Zen 6 + RDNA 5 APU mini-PC is going to be an impressive mini-PC.

>>109116125
I have a theory that TSMC will eventually hit a block like intel hit when 10nm and won't be able to progress further than a node that they hit, it's going to be lower than 1.4nm, which they already can do
and once they hit that block I think it'll be time to upgrade the computers because we would see less improvement gen over gen than we see today, which is massive

>>109116069
Assembly isn't free you know.

>>109116099
>muh power
It's plugged into the wall not a battery.

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Surely you listened to /LDG/ods and bought these components for like 700$ total a few months ago, right, Anon?

>>109116338
*and /LMG/ods

>>109116069
The Steam Machine uses single-channel memory?

>>109116338
>tortured by crypto AND ai

>>109116357
>The Steam Machine uses single-channel memory?
its a lottery, enjoy!
https://youtu.be/66QzlDewigE?t=628

how often should I be doing pixel cleaning on muh qd oled?

>>109116131
Intel bet on the wrong technology and their c suite managers chose not to invest in euv to cut costs and optimize 14nm, not because they couldn't have made 10nm viable, earlier
I doubt tsmc will make the same mistake Intel did

what would you replace a 8GB RX7600 with ?
I have a 5600X and 16GB 3600Mhz RAM, thinking of either getting a 9060XT or fuck it, push the boat out and get a 9070XT but then wondering if my CPU would bottleneck it ?
i'm not building a AM5 rig.

>>109116491
now that the 7600xt has fsr 4.1 I wouldn't get a 9060 xt, it has to be a 9070 xt or wait for rdna5 next year
you totally should get the 5800x3d when it comes out tho

I'm not really up to date with PC building shenanigans, has the data center insanity reached SSDs yet?
I'm probably gonna need some more space (both internally and externally) at some point in the future and I wonder if I should just bite the bullet and get it over with now, just in case prices shoot up at some point. I remember these things were getting cheaper and cheaper, last time I bough one, but the trend looks to be reversing.

>>109116746
it's the apocalypse

>thinking of swapping a 6800xt sakura for a 9070xt reva
>market is so fucked that it still feels like a bad buy as 6800xt still does 2k just fine and new gpu models are late due to ai shitting the bed
Pretty sure the right play here is wait on next year's gpu lineup

>>109116748
And I thought 2020 GPU prices were bad.
I specifically remember thinking in summer 2019 that surely I can be patient and ride out my old 960 row whatever it was for just one more year to get a newer model. Ended up having to wait until like mid 2023.

>>109116776
my pc is from 2021, I got a 1650 super due to prices, then in 2023 prices came down and I put in a 6650xt. Now I'm nearly due for a full upgrade and shit is fucked. Should've got some ram last year...

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QhsbLy

Any suggestions?
50 series for AI.
I play at 1080p 60 fps. I don't care about 'slop' frames.
The RAM and SSD are models I can get a good deal on, not necessarily the best option on pcpartppicker.
The monitor is what I've already got.

>>109116794
you def want a noctua AIO for that cpu
win11 license is obviously not bought at that price
b850 mobos with wifi 7 is standard these days

was looking to build my very first pc now, obviously worst time ever to do so especially given my budget of only 700€ max.
Would it make sense to go for a mini pc instead? ddr5 Sodimms are about 100€ cheaper than dimms, so mini pc with a ryzen 7 h255, 1tb ssd and second hand 32gn ddr5 would cost me less than a entry level tower with 16gb. I'm not looking to play AAA titles now so I dont mind the integrated graphics at the moment, but would eventually upgrade with a oculink dock + egpu for productivity sake once I got more money.
to me it just seems overkill to build a real pc now if you don't have a lot of money to burn or a very demanding use case but I could be wrong.
Maybe in 3-5 years the market could be looking better and I'd build a tower then. But a mini pc rig would do just fine until then, no?

>>109116792
feel you. I'm grateful that most games I'm interested in aren't too demanding, but I dread the day when that will change

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how much Zen 6 having NPU can affect it's pricing?

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>be me about 10 years ago
>economy goes to hell
>pensions go to hell
>the world goes to hell
>"At least I will be able to build incredible machines with cheap parts, even with a terrible pension. This won't go away."
>2025
>computing goes away
>can't build machines for cheap anymore
I am struggling anons. Everything is being taken away from us one by one..

>>109116812
a case : 100€
psu : 100€
1 tb nvme : 125€
am5 mobo: 140€
7600x cpu with igpu 160€
1 stick 16gb ddr 5 : 200€

700€ is a bit tough unless you really start cheaping out on components, buying used or bundle deals

Is 55€ for 2x8GB DDR4 2666 MHz reasonable to double my amount of RAM? (Not really, it's half the price I paid almost 7 years ago)

>>109116843
Yeah, we are close to the end. Just try to stay fit and healthy, so you have better chances to survive the Ai apocalypse.

>>109115625
> because they want you to buy a new card instead of using what you already own. classic.

>>109116843
Just go innawoods and be one with nature
It's free

>>109116861
Nah, we have aliens and cryptids in the woods. Ain't going there no more.

>>109116845
100€ for psu and case each? why? Are the 60€ priced ones not enough for mid range gaymin?

>>109116365
> suffering from success, anon. just buy low and touch grass.

>>109116874
both matter you know
cheaping out on psu isnt a good idea and you want a decent airflow case for better noise management instead of some shitty hotbox

>>109115799
>>109115910
I'm retarded. How can I revert back to and fix this shit?

>>109116069
>so why is this
because the greedy niggers at Valve want to profit from selling the hardware.
they haven't gotten the memo that consoles only make a profit from games

>>109116843
all it takes is a couple of Luigi's to get the kikes running to their bunkers
the fact that you burgers can buy AR15s at Walmart but haven't done anything with them really shows that you brown golems are nothing but slaves

do I need a motherboard with a pcie 5.0 slot for any variation of the rtx 5070?

>>109117103
no

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>>109117103
no, pci-e is forward and backward compatible. that is you could if you were so inclined plug a pci-e 5 card into pci-e 1 slot, or a pci-e 1 card into a pci-e 5 slot. naturally the bandwidth will be limited by the slowest side

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5080 or 9070 XT? Assume that 5080 is 2x the price of 9070 XT. Is it worth it?

>>109117124
the 5080 is a little faster, but at twice the price you'd need a strong reason to get it over the 9070 XT, like if you absolutely must have CUDA or something else nvidia-only

>>109117133
I was thinking into dabbling a bit with AI slop video generation, but I've heard the difference between 5080 and 9070 XT would be just seconds of waiting time per video generation, very negligible difference. Thoughts on this?

>>109115799
Another Major Disappointment...

>>109116803
Thanks, the mobo model I'm getting is listed with wifi 7. Not sure if I just picked an older version or something.
I've never had a liquid cooled system and don't really want to get into it. The CPU is listed with a base TPD of 170W and 230 W max and the air cooler supposedly is able to handle 238W. And i won't be spiking the CPU while gaming for prolonged times anyway.

>>109117124
The 5080 is always better
Amd is only cheap because they cut corners in every way (un)imaginable

>>109117145
i haven't looked into the difference with ai stuff. i'm using a 7800 XT (on linux) and i have been able to use llm's, and comfyui (both for images and video). whether it's as fast as an equivalent nvidia card i'm not sure. i don't use it much and it's been fast enough for me to play around with

>>109117153
amd has retarded boosting behavior tho, it wants to reach thermal limits on random workloads which means fan follows the temps
you only buy 16 core cpus if you plan to do some all core workloads and there an AIO will really help
and noctua performs the best

Why are there 0 (zero) horizontal, fractal define R5/6 style, silence focused cases, with no glass, plexi or RGB, with plenty of space for HDD and DVDRWs???

Literally ALL CASES SUCK.

>>109117216
what is the usecase for horizontal cases

if you want you can use an external usb dvd reader and move the data to an internet drive that doesnt have moving parts

>>109117228
I literally just don't want to deal with large air coolers or graphics cards having off the motherboard, i hate anti sag brackets they only have a usecase because of poorly designed cases.

>>109117239
i hate riser cables too, because not only do they suck and add another point of failure, they get in the way of half the motherboard

So I want to tighten my RAM timings, since some of them are really lose.
I'm using 9800X3D, Aorus x870e Xtreme and Kingston Fury 2x32 Hynix A die. Current timings are
CL 30
RCDWR 36
RCDRD 36
RP 36
RAS 80
RC 116
RFC 884
RFC2 480
REFI 46800
My case is Antec Flux Pro, I'm using an DDR fan include with mobo, current temps are about 37C while using a browser.
I'm thinking about something like this:
6000
CL 28
tRCDRD 34
tRCDWR 32
tRP 32
tRAS 60
tRC 92
Volt:
VDD: 1.45 V
VDDQ: 1.45 V
VSOC: 1.17 V
tRRDS: 4
tRRDL: 6
tFAW: 20
tWR: 36 or 48
tRTP: 10 or 12
tWTRS: 4 or 6
tWTRL: 12 or 16
tRFC: 540
tRFC2: 405
tRFCsb: 292
tREFI: 65535
SCL:4 /4 or 6/6
RDWR = 12 or 16
WRRD = 4 or 6
tCWL: 26 or 28
Does anything there looks too tight/too lose?
I'm also confused by tRFC, some sources say 600 is already very low and other says 400 or even 300 is possible, which one is true?
Also did the new AGESA/EXPO update with ultra low latency changed anything for ram tuning, are tighter timings possible now?

use case for fish tanks?

>>109117268
Im a ddr4 guy, never touched ddr5, and those vddq voltages would give me a heart attack
also "vdd" is incomplete, I assume it's vddp, which is also grotesquely higher than what I run in ddr4

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>berating corsair through their feedback system

>>109116812
>looking to build my very first pc now, my budget is 700€
just tack €350 worth of gpu onto an older platform ryzen 2600x+ or intel i5 9400+ and you'll get something between ps5 and ps5 pro level of performance.

>Would it make sense to go for a mini pc instead?
Maybe. €/frame wise you'd probably be better off getting a used nintendo switch or a xbox series s and a cheap N100 laptop/mini pc. But there your upgrade path is basically selling the old junk and buying something new rather than hooking up an e-gpu.

There's also the choice of getting a cheap N100 machine and getting Geforce now or some other cloud GPU rental subscription to play AAA single player games with.

>>109117268
i run 2x32gb 6000cl26 and 400 tRFC works
i'm on a pretty old agesa and still use the original bank refresh mode

How do the newest mini-leds compare to qd-oleds specifically in color reproduction?

>>109117268
seems fine but instead of thinking about it you should try it and see what happens
anyway
tRC can be lower
tRCDWR can be 16
tRRDS/tRRDL might be too aggressive for DDR5
don't forget about the dual rank timings (tRDRDSD/tWRWRSD)
>>109117299
>also "vdd" is incomplete
VDD is the supply voltage to the memory chips
VDDQ is the signaling voltage for the memory controller
both are combined into VDIMM on DDR4
(this is one of the advantages of DDR5, you can run higher VDD without burning your memory controller or the traces on the motherboard)

>>109117268
6000cl28 is not worth it if you're going to run 1.45v on them. Do 1.35v on 6000cl30 so you can enjoy higher trefi and tighter subs

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>>109117268
>I'm also confused by tRFC, some sources say 600 is already very low and other says 400 or even 300 is possible, which one is true?

For Hynix A die around 480-360 is the limit, the PC won't POST if you go too low or it's not A die.

>>109117426
thanks!
>tRDRDSD/tWRWRSD
what values would be fine there, or should just leave them on default/auto?
>>109117438
I might consider doing this, do you think all other timings seem fine there? From what I read the CL is not that important on AM5 and the secondary/tertiary timings can give better boost
>>109117393
>>109117449
So the tRFC at 500 or perhaps even 480 should work?

>>109117583
>what values would be fine there
i don't have AM5 but seems like most people settle on RDRDSD 6 and WRWRSD 8
(makes sense to me since on AM4 RDRDSD 4 and WRWRSD 6 was standard, so at higher speeds they would scale proportionally)
>should just leave them on default/auto?
auto is probably gonna be really loose
>From what I read the CL is not that important on AM5 and the secondary/tertiary timings can give better boost
this is true but subtimings also go lower with higher voltage
that anon is probably concerned about temps but since you have a fan on the sticks 1.45 V isn't a problem at all

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>>109117268
here are mine
passed 12h stresstest of course
all hynix A/M -dies should be able to run these exact timings

>>109117583
You get bigger benefit on Ryzen by setting your FCLK as high as possible than your CL but only if you're stable otherwise you regress

>>109117583
If you're doing mixed or FGR you want trfc lower if youre doing normal mode you want trfc higher as trefi isn't halfed

https://videocardz.com/newz/msi-claw-8-ex-ai-review-are-here-intel-arc-g3-extreme-takes-the-lead-in-performance-and-pricing

INTEL DOMINATION

IMAGINE ACTUALLY BUYING A STEAM DECK GARBAGE

>>109117684
I'm not sure, which the memory refresh mode I usually should want?
I will watch the buildzoid video on those later, seems like it's pretty new addition
>>109117624
seems nice, though those are single rank modules, some of those might not work on dual rank
what you use for testing? is y-cruncher and tm5 extreme/absolute enough?
>>109117619
>RDRDSD 6 and WRWRSD 8
thanks
>that anon is probably concerned about temps but since you have a fan on the sticks 1.45 V isn't a problem at all
do you think there is reason to go for 1.5 V, or is that too much for daily use?

>>109117755
>do you think there is reason to go for 1.5 V, or is that too much for daily use?
1.5V is fine but i don't know if you're gonna get anything out of it
only you can find out, by testing
for example if you can do tCL 26 at 1.5 V and you can't do it at 1.45 V then why the hell not

tCL/tCWL will scale with voltage
tRCD, tRP and tRTP will scale a little bit with voltage
tRRDS/tRRDL/tWTRS/tWTRL will scale a little bit with voltage
tRFC will scale with voltage
SCLs will scale with voltage

>>109117755
mixed mode is the best for single rank. normal mode is better for dual rank. some mobos cannot enable mixed or normal anymore and only fgr due to them enforcing rowhammer security.

>>109117755
>>109117789
there's also no reason to raise VDDQ to 1.5 V btw, even at DDR5-8000 you don't need that much VDDQ

>>109117169
Mobo fan hysteresis really ought to be standard at this point.

>>109116099
shit Eurosoys with a $300/month salary and $.50 electricity say

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>steam machine is 50% slower than the rtx 5060 ewaste gpu
Lol lmao

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>>109117830
*cough* *cough*

>>109117846
valve will optimize it
radv alone improved shader compilation by 50,000%

>>109117755
you want your voltages as low as possible while still being stable. too much voltage throws trfc/trefi out of whack and will cause corruption.

>>109117846
timing is bad for valve, but it'd be an actually viable product with a 9060

From comments I've seen only people with a lot of money even consider buying it as a novelty collectable for their living rooms. You know, it's a conversation starter or a fashion statement. They'll play some old games on it sometimes, who cares they have their 5k € pc in the office anyway.

>>109117426
>tRC can be lower
how lower, what value would be good?
>tRCDWR can be 16
Isn't that too low? Also, what is the relation between tRCDRD and tRCDWR? Is it good for them to have the same value or some proportional values?

>>109118026
>how lower, what value would be good?
hynix DDR5 can go really low on tRC
not sure there is any benefit on AM5 going lower than tRCDRD+tRTP+tRP=34+10+32=76
(your settings)
but it can definitely go even lower than that
and tRAS is weird, see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BS_NeTwjOvY
>Isn't that too low?
no, tRCDWR can be lowered to the register limit on basically any memory chip
DDR4 and DDR5
it's because the memory controller doesn't actually care about the old data stored in the cell during a write operation
>Is it good for them to have the same value or some proportional values?
no, always go as low as you can on both for max performance
(most memory overclocking advice on the internet is superstition and "magic ratios" are rare, general rule is lower is always better)

>>109117846
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hwNL9K
Can literally build a cube mATX with a 7500f and 5060 for cheaper lol

>sales going on
>wow look at the sales wow wow
sales don't matter when 64gb ram is 1000€
fuck off
it's all demoralization at this point
wake me up at DDR6
I should really have upgraded this gen....

>he thinks ddr6 will be cheaper
The performance jump from ddr5 to ddr6 will be bigger than the one from ddr4 to ddr5. Get ready to pay $1000 for 16gb ddr6

>>109118141
who do you think will make ddr6?
The memory companies selling 99% of their output to AI companies who penned 100bil contracts rn?

>>109116491
I wouldn't. I would keep that 7600 at least until RDNA 5 and RTX 5000 super refresh.
unless you're trying to play high fps 4k right now, then get a 9070xt or 5070ti.

>>109117124
9070xt. 5080 is a card for retards.

>>109118223
*for people who have a job in the 1st world

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>>109117697
I bought one 5 years ago and I do not regret it at all.
try not being fake and gay next time you make a post, fat retard.

>electrical currents travel slightly faster through warmer silicon
so you sayin my ssd gets faster the warmer it gets?

>>109117846
terrible value. the Deck performed above expectations because it provided great value for the cost. the Machine is unrecommendable hardware.

>>109118247
my old PC used to have glitches when I cold booted it, and I had to warm it up by opening a game to sit on the main menu to force the drivers to slowly start crashing so that I could restart it so that it would work.

>>109118227
>poorfag can't afford a 5090

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>>109117755
>is y-cruncher and tm5 extreme/absolute enough?
yeah. if you go for 12h+ most ram-stresstests are good enough
personally I've used RamTestPro (pic related.
but karhu, memtestpro or tm5 anta preset are good, too.

>>109118231
i got a deck oled recently because all other handhelds are lcd garbage or too big (legion 2)
its a beast for my low-spec games

>>109118270
You need to buy best value hardware because you can barely afford it. Maybe you're thinking about how much your future klarna loan eats up into your food budget

Theres people who dont care about losing 50-100€ buying a product lower down the list on some perf per dollar chart, it doesn't matter to them. They have literally hundreds of thousands in the bank.

>>109118303
you bought the $950 'eck? oof.

Help a retard out, bros. What should I be looking for out of a QD OLED 1440p in the Prime Day deals?

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>>109118334
>OLED
lol.
Windows is designed for 90-110 ppi. if you use anything outside of that range you'll be required to use OS scaling which will negate the whole purpose of using a higher resolution.

>>109118102
thanks, that is some good info
what do you think about tRFC, should I start with 540, or already with 500 or even 480?
also, do you think it makes sense to try make it 6200, or there is no chance for it to be stable with those timings?

>>109118330
I paid $600 for the 'eck and another $20 for a tempered glass protector

>>109118334
you REALLY don't want to buy oled yet. wait for 5th gen RGB-stripe QD-oled
trust me, I own a 3th gen 32inch 4K QDoled, and the font fringing is fucking disgusting. I don't even wanna know how bad it must be at 1440p

>>109117846
Not to mention the fact that the 5060 can use DLSS, while the 7600M will be stuck with FSR3 a lot of the time and take a penalty when using FSR4

>>109118347
Imagine not being able to view 4k content in 2026.
Games, movies, music videos, porn etc etc.

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Users Running Windows 10 and AMD Software: Adrenalin Edition 26.6.2 May Encounter Yellow Bang in Device Manager Affecting AMD Radeon RX Series Graphics

>>109118439
https://www.amd.com/en/resources/support-articles/faqs/PA-622.html

>>109118392
>5th gen RGB-stripe QD-oled
I don't really notice it all that much on mine
What got a lot better compared to older gens is its surface coating which reflects so little light that it preserves really high contrasts even in a well lit room

>>109118439
>I came here to free Mr. Potato that your son holds hostage

>>109118392
I don't think there will be rgb-stripe 1440p OLEDs at release. I don't have any issues with text clarity on my pg27aqwm-w even if it's worse than IPS of course.

>>109118392
Are those coming out later this year? I see text quality is supposedly better in 5th gen as well

>>109118457
Disregard the text comment. I see now that's what you said. I'm juggling too many things

>>109118392
>you REALLY don't want to buy oled yet. wait [2 more weeks]
People should just admit we aren't ready for flat screens this side of 2030. I'm going to just find an old trinitron gdm-fw900 at this rate.

anything good on sale for Shartmazon pr*me?

>>109118348
>what do you think about tRFC, should I start with 540, or already with 500 or even 480?
480 seems like it should work
but you could leave tRFC until last, it's not gonna impact your testing for any other timings
>also, do you think it makes sense to try make it 6200, or there is no chance for it to be stable with those timings?
6200 stable should be doable on basically all AM5 CPUs as far as i know
though it could require a lot of SOC voltage
6400 stable is harder, some CPUs can't do it
6600 stable is very rare

you might need to loosen out the primary timings at 6200

i know i said this earlier but you're really just gonna have to try some different settings and see what works, only you have access to your exact setup
you're never gonna get the perfect set of timings on the first try

I don't know if this is the right place to ask but I need a small tv (like 32 inches) for my room. any budget options? (europe)

>>109118470
>wait 2 more weeks
no, but really this time. 5th gen QD oled will finally be worth buying

>>109118587
thanks again, I will do some tests later on
I have run some tm5 absolut now on my current EXPO settings with 1.4 V, and the sticks got up to 52C temps - is it not too high for such tight tRFC and tREFI, shouldn't I maybe start with them looser?
also, which tools for testing would you recommend and should I run them in any particular order?

>>109118633
temps are fine, as you can see from mine >>109118287

>>109118633
are you using dual rank? they'll obviously run hotter than single rank

>>109118633
>is it not too high for such tight tRFC and tREFI, shouldn't I maybe start with them looser?
65k tREFI is a little bit questionable at 50+ C
especially since when you're playing games the GPU is gonna soak the case with more heat
>which tools for testing would you recommend and should I run them in any particular order?
i use TM5 extreme+VT3+linpack
but i'm on intel and apparently VT3+linpack aren't as effective for stress testing on ryzen
>>109118658
dual rank gets hotter internally, the sticks are double-sided
could still be fine, who knows

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Will any other 27" monitor be meaningfully better than the Alienware AW2725Q?

It's been 18 months
I still havent found a good monitor

>>109118710
Maybe an E-Ink monitor is for you.

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>>109118420
retard even Windows isn't hiding it anymore my screenshots are 1440 now when my resolution is 2160 because I have 150% scaling to make anything legible on this monitor.
wasting money, taxing your performance, for fucking nothing.

>>109118678
yeah, those are 2 x 32, so dual rank Hynix A
>>109118681
that's what I'm afraid of, so what could be a good tREFI? 60000? 57343? just 50000? Current one from EXPO is 46800

>>109118710
check out the upcoming 360hz qd oled 4k monitor

>>109118741
I think you're a little bit confused.

>>109118765
just go 50k lol these timings aren't as important as people think they are
(i mean compared to stock it makes a huge difference but 50k vs 65k is barely noticeable)
>Current one from EXPO is 46800
damn really? gigabyte is living on the edge
JEDEC spec is like 10k-12k at 6000

>>109118710
they abandoned the only good monitor technology, CRT and TN.

>>109118692
>27" 4k

>>109118796
explain it then.

>>109118823
this nigga has bad eyesight lmao

>>109118840
Explain what? the resolution of your doctored screenshot?

You resized it.

>>109118823
The pixel density makes a difference and my desk space is limited.
>niggas really onions over text fringing but somehow don't perceive a 20% difference in pixel density

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>>109118803
>damn really? gigabyte is living on the edge
I'm not sure if this one is set by mobo or it's the Kingston who has set it that high on their EXPO profile
but that motherboard recently finally got tested, and got some crazy memory results compared to other motherboards
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/motherboards/gigabyte-x870e-aorus-xtreme-ai-top-motherboard-review/3
even the author doesn't knows why they are so high, so probably there are couple of aggressive default setting there

>>109118872
>doctored
>resized
you don't even own a computer.

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>>109115452
Am I going blind, they look the same?

>>109118898
yeah gigabyte is definitely pushing aggressive timings
46800 is exactly 15600 ns which is exactly 4x the default JEDEC spec (3900*4=15600)
you could just leave it like that, if you know EXPO is stable then great

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I'm trying to get a new computer desk and I can't decide which color to get. Which color do you prefer? Black or white?

>>109118937
white is going to turn brown when you rub your stinky feet on it for a few months.

>>109118928
>downscaled screenshots compressed to shit through X
Yeah no shit they look the same.

>>109118937
context dependent

>>109118928
right is significantly sharper

>>109118940
Fuck, that's true. Any recommendations for an adjustable desk that isn't built like shit?

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>>109118953
This is an old picture but it shows what it's replacing. I need to get rid of this cuckdesk.

>>109118928
on fsr 3.1 the grass blurs and blends into each other.
on fsr 4.1 you can tell the strands apart.

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>>109118957
I think Ikea only makes adjustable desks now, youtubers are all being paid to shill flexispot.
I have this desk, but with a black top, and it's ok. not great, not terrible. I would prefer something larger honestly. can't really fit 2 monitors, speakers, and computer on it.

>>109118980
I see. That's why I'm looking for a butcherblock type top so I'll know it's solid af.

>>109118941
>>109118953
>>109118970
I know what FSR 3 and 4 look like since I've got a 9060XT but that comparison is doing a disservice.

>>109118996
most of the improvements are in motion and a image aint gonna do much

>>109118988
You just buy a butcherblock locally and order whatever powered legs you stomach purchasing online. I think uplift is the big one?

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>>109118980
160 or 120
I mean 160 is kinda small too if you are putting a fucking pc case on it
you can do the ikea meme and buy the 200cm+ kitchen tops and put legs on it but that is also too shallow at 60 depth

>>109118988
ikea has that shit but 60cm depth

>>109118957
people buy some electric legs and whatever top but you have to drill holes and even some pre bought tables you have to do that
i aint doing that shit

>>109118937
that bottom bar is not made for desk use with chairs

>>109118710
the new 360hz VStripe qdoled 32" one
or a LG C6 42" on sale, or C6 48" or G6 55"
or a S95H/99H 55"

if you buy anything else you are getting cucked

>>109118597
32" tvs are like landfill tier, a lg c5 42" on sale is like 700€ right now which would be the absolute minimum you should buy honestly
but I would wait and get a c6 instead since they updated the processor and it doesn't have as obvious dithering scan lines all over the bitch anymore, or even better get a 48" for the tandememe upgrade, or even better get a 55" s95f or something honestly if you have slightly over 1m distance

>>109118456
>pg27aqwm-w
that's woled though and also the updated wrgb pattern that is better

>>109118347
I defeated you months ago why are you still posting this meme
crazy work

>>109119083
>that bottom bar is not made for desk use with chairs
You can move that foot bar towards the back.

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>>109118970
>fsr 4.1 you can tell the strands apart.

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>>109118692
I've been eyeing the 1440p variant. Hopefully the panel gods bless me.

>>109118625
if the screens are still fragile and hard to clean I won't be able to buy one. My nails and semen will utterly annihilate one in a matter of days.

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>>109115786
hello sorry to be annoying can anyone give me some input on this build?

>>109119412
That ssd is pretty shit. The 5080 is also shit but that price isnt the worst. See if you can get a crucial T500 or wd7100

>>109119412
Thanks, would the drive in this combo be considerably better?
https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.4874856

>>109119083
you know what looks better than 600 pixels being rendered at 300 pixels at 30 fps?
300 pixels being rendered at 300 pixels at 90 fps.

>>109119631
higher pixel screens can render lower res too

>>109119657
then why'd you buy a higher resolution screen to not use that resolution?

>>109119412
You should buy an aio

>>109119688
for a cpu that eats 60w during gaming

>>109119488
Yes thats the best gen 4 consumer ssd.

>>109115452
What’s the point in FSR 4.1 on RDNA 3 if we can’t buy SSDs and RAM??
Where’s the solution for that huh??????????

>>109119987
I bought ssd just couple weeks ago
I bought ram 7 months ago
I also bought an nvidia gpu 5 years ago so I dont really care about fsr tho

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Nvida & Intel in shambles

>>109120017
I kinda wish humanity moved past the "nvidia doesnt work on linux" era already

>>109120129
isn't it true that you lose a significant amount of gaming performance using nvidia on linux though?

>>109120160
It is, they're getting better but it's still ass compared to Intel/AMD

>>109119412
buy a better cooler from thermalright, dont need to buy the cheapest one

>>109120017
It's funny that Linus called out the gay cube for being shit but gamers nexus didn't have the balls and made a bunch of excuses for it.

>>109120160
up to 25% fps loss in dx12 games

>>109120017
intel works great on linux

>>109120160
>>109120250
Is it being worked on?

>>109120414
They supposedly slightly improved it recently, but not enough to close the gap.

>>109120414
don't buy for what if, buy for what is.

>>109120414
Open Source Development is a low priority for Nvidia unless it's AI related.

>>109120414
they would have to rewrite the driver from scratch to have something decent on linux
(like AMD did, 10 years ago)

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>>109120242
G*mers Neggussy is selling the g*y steammachine faceplaces to fund his schitzo travel videos where he goes on crazy tangents blaming corpo-celebs for his declining affliate marketing revenues. If he's earnest he'll earn less money or even lose money on this retarded side-hussle.

>>109120242
I can't blame Valve for the market prices being absolutely fucked.

So what's the latest on low heat builds? I basically just want a second machine that's going to not heat up my office a ton or have a lot of fan noise but can still drive a 1440p screen and serve as a web browser station or media center. Needs a lot of RAM because I like to spin up random VMs sometimes or have a ton of tabs open. Not going to game on it. Ideally would like to have it be in a small form factor. I have an existing very old tower in this role and it's loud and hot and I want to get rid of it. Shouldn't matter for specs but I'll be running Linux on it so anything too weird is gonna be a potential issue. The big issues are heat and noise.

>>109120910
anything with low watts.

>>109120910
Asus Nuc

GPU - 5080 (Non negotiable) 1200
Motherboard Bundle 589
CPU Ryzen 9800x3d
Motherboard gigabyte x870
Cooler Master Elite Liquid 240 CPU AIO Cooler
Ram: Strip
SSD: Strip
PSU: be quiet! Pure Power 13 M 1000W 119
Case: GAMDIAS White ATX Mid Tower 36
Total: 1944


Hopefully some fucking sales actually happen. I'm just going to sit on this until I feel like pulling the trigger.

>>109120848
>lose money on a product created on-demand from 3D printing
This isn't going to be supplied by Chinese scammers, he can't over-order or over-produce

>>109120910
if you're not going to game then you dont need a gpu
I'd say lga 1700 i5-14600k with a matx ddr4 motherboard is enough for what you want and you can overspend on ram and a 4k screen for media consumption instead of buy a gpu

>>109120848
>is selling the g*y steammachine faceplaces to fund his schitzo travel videos where he goes on crazy tangents blaming corpo-celebs for his declining affliate marketing revenues
If that's the case then he should've just asked for donations, I actually like his schizo ranting videos and would happily donate to get more.

should i upgrade to a Ryzen 7 7700x from a ryzen 5 7600x? its half off cause of prime day

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gonna pull the trigger on this I think

>>109121122
thats an expensive sandwich for uno

>>109121118
Wait for Zen6 on 2nm

>>109121122
What site is this?

>>109121149
overclockers UK but I'm ordering to ireland.
Thankfully computer parts have no import duties into EU market

>>109121122
Seems fine for ITX. Case?

>>109121118
no

>>109121122
>240 aio
I'd rather go air than 240 but if you're happy with then you do you.

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>>109121172
picrel is the biggest aircooler that can fit in the case.

not sure how power hungry that 9800x3d actually is tbf

>>109121166
https://ncased.com/products/t1-sandwich-kit-black-color
10 litres, its pretty nice

>>109121209
I would maybe downgrade to a 7800x3d. That thermalright struggles a bit with the 9800x3d but very easily manages the 7800x3d. Although even the 9800x3d wont be that bad the system might just run louder and hotter than you’d want.

>>109121209
Didn't take the case into account, the 240 will be better. You had it right and I was wrong, good luck with your build bro.

>>109121268
<3

wheres the best place to sell my 9800x3d?

>>109121445
Facebook marketplace and I'm not joking, just make sure to go to a safer city if you live in a shit hole like me, and make the exchange in a public space during the day.

>>109121209
Great little cooler, the one I worked with refused to come off again.
>t1-sandwich-kit-black-color
Looks very nice, kinda like Dan cases I've seen.

>>109121497
i was planning on mailing it instead of inviting any apes over.

Be honest bros, is a 5080 worth it over a 5070ti? It's a $300 difference which is a lot but also I'm already spending 3K on a computer so the extra cost doesn't feel as rough

>miniitx
not a real computer

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>>109121593
No

>>109121593
all 50 series cards are terrible, specially at the price they are in

>>109121593
no it will have the same lifespan and you get maybe 10 more fps.

https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/alienware-27-wqhd-240hz-0-03ms-gtg-qd-oled-freesync-gaming-monitor-aw2726dm-black-exclusive-retail-partner/19803244

https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/acer-27-predator-x27u-wqhd-240hz-0-03ms-gtg-oled-freesync-gaming-monitor-x27u-w1bmiipprx-black/19694818

https://www.canadacomputers.com/en/25-29-gaming-monitors/281463/acer-27-2560-x-1440-qhd-qd-oled-280hz-gaming-monitor-umgxxaa103.html

Is it worth spending extra $40 or $70 on Acer X27U for better hdr and 280hz?

>>109121593
No. Just get a 70ti or 70 (which is halfway reasonable to get at msrp)

>>109121657
Acers a dogshit trash tech company, dont buy their shit. So is Dell.

I got burned bad with their monitors once. Tech blacklist forever, their warranty dept is a scam.

>>109121593
I once got a 1070 over a 1080 because the upgrade didn't feel worth it. Every single game release after I wished I had the 1080 performance. Never had that when I bought my 3080. Go for what you can comfortably afford, even if diminishing returns are a thing.

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I don't do much gayming but I am pissed about having to use an nvidia GPU with their crappy drivers. It was bad on winblows but on troonix it's even worse. I recently got an absolutely ancient AMD card just for video out on a server and for some basic transcode, and it worked amazing with open source drivers. Is there an AMD GPU that is well priced that could beat my RTX 3060 ti? Or should I wait for prices to go way down.

>>109121566
Just make sure you don't get scammed

>>109121696
intel is far better than amd for video transcoding
as for replacing the gpu, the prices right now are decent, but there are only 2 real options, the 9060 XT 16gb and the 9070 xt, both great cards

>>109118967
What aspect ratio is that monitor?

Can someone recommend me a 1000w PSU, please? It's for a 5090 + 9800x3d

>>109120992
>low power
>intel
Jeez this board is retarded

>>109121799
This place has been invaded by shills and trolls

>>109121799
retarded nigger, intel has better energy efficiency doing works that are not demanding like transcoding and idle consumption, this has always been the case

>>109120848
What's wrong with that? Also once the prototyping is over what money would you lose on 3d printed goods? You just click print and have a product to ship out a few hours later.

>>109121844
Intel is not low power -> not low heat.
You don't know how physics works

>>109121566
I've always met people at a coffee shop, its chill and people normally tell you about pc they're building

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>>109121857
ape

>>109121781
FSP Hydro TI

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>>109121593
>Be honest bros, is a 5080 worth it over a 5070ti? It's a $300 difference which is a lot but also I'm already spending 3K on a computer so the extra cost doesn't feel as rough
I have a 5080. No it's not "worth it", but it's better and you're going to be sitting their contemplating you're choice not to get a 5080. If you get a 5080 you're going to sit there and wonder why you didn't get a 5090.
If you play games I highly suggest you get the 5080, but you'll be disappointed either way. If you're just worried about hardware acceleration get a 5070ti.

>>109121882
wow, thank goodness you brought out this 5+ year old chart to prove your antiquated point.

>>109121910
the chart was published TODAY

>>109121910
i'm sorry reddit lied to you but AMD is not your friend and they aren't always the best in every situation

>>109121882
>idle
>winslop
Yawn. Come back when you have a real argument

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Bros I don't understand RAM latency and whatever the fuck numbers these things have. I just want 32GB of ram for this kit I just bought from newegg
https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.4874856
There's this on amazon which seems like a nice deal
https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.4874856
but apparently it's for Intel? I don't get it bros please help I'd appreciate it if someone could just link me what to buy lol

>>109121943
it'll work on the computer, dont worry

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>>109121910
>5+ year old chart

>>109121943
>for intel
It just means that they tested with Intel.
You can use it with AMD.
I also think you fucked up your links.
The lower the latency, the better, but too low may cause system instability.
Get 6000 cl 30 for AMD.
In reality, just get the cheapest you can get if you're on a tight budget.
I didn't check any of your links btw

>>109121956
>>109121965
oops, i did mess up the links, I meant these sticks of ram https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BZHTVHN5/ref=ewc_pr_img_5?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&th=1
I guess them being CL36 wouldn't be that good?

Thank you thank you

>>109121976
Yeah ideally you want 6000 cl30, but with the state of the market you can't get to be picky. As I said, just get whatever you can buy. Performance difference is negligible in most games.
I think factorio was very sensitive to RAM latency but I'm not sure. I've forgotten the specifics.

BTW this only matters if you overclock your RAM on your motherboard's BIOS. If you don't do that, they are all the same...

>>109121976
Lower cas latency is better but the difference between cl30 and cl36 is small. You can see for yourself on youtube.

>>109121593
Maybe because there's a solid chance it and the 5090 are the last obtainable 4k-capable consumer cards.

>>109122134
lol
lmao

Is the only reason to get a 5070Ti or a 5080 over a 9070XT path tracing? Because they all seem fairly competitive performance wise, 5080 better over all of course and the 5070 and 9070 being pretty much neck and neck.

>>109122193
you're not running pt at playable frames on anything that isn't a 40/5090.

>>109122193
path tracing and being fucking retarded are the two main reasons to chose those two cards over the 9070 xt

>>109122193
No the only reason is that you want Nvidia

>>109122236
I am pretty retarded.
>>109122235
I didn't mean playable, I just meant in terms of nvida exclusive stuff. upscaling excluded because that's the devils works.

>>109122244
If you want path tracing without upscaling you need a 5090

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>>109122247
9070XT it is. thanks anons.

>>109122254
He's lying about the pt, it's viable on anything from the 4060ti onwards
RDNA4 is already basically confirmed to not be getting any upgrades to the featureset

>>109122258
>pt, it's viable on anything from the 4060ti
LOL!

>>109122193
you buy Nvidia if you need CUDA

>>109122263
My understanding is that if you're not doing professional work then the only reason you'd want CUDA is for ai stuff, which does sound very appealing but not double the price appealing.

>>109122193
fsr still behind dlss, no usable ray reconstruction or frame gen alternative, Nvidia gpu will be usable 5 years from now, etc.

>>109115577
3 x 8TB Western Digital Black SN850X

>>109115799
> BF1
Battlefied 1? A 10 y/o game? Okay...

>>109116920
Ddu to uninstall previous driver, search "amd 26.6.1," download and install "driver only"
Be sure to uncheck "keep drivers up to date."

>>109122429
with driver only you cant tune the gpu btw, I had to install the standard version after dduing to be able to tune my gpu
26.6.1 is an amazing driver, I'm running -100cclock and -95mv undervolt stable so far, playing various different games
not gonna upgrade anything soon

>>109121799
Arrow Lake and everything has significantly lower power draw than AMD equivalents, this is known information. It's like, their only good point.

jesus fucking christ
intel = lower power draw AT IDLE because the monolith chip design
ryzen = lower power draw DOING STUFF because it's better designed
intel is better for HOMESERVERs
ryzen is better for ACTUAL PCs

I wonder if Nvidia ARM was further ahead by 5 years if the Gabecube could have been based on green tech instead of red.

>>109122236
Spotted the seething poorfag.
The 5070Ti is only $200-300 more and provides CUDA cores, DLSS & PT & future proof enjoyment.

>>109122278
You can do AI stuff on 9070 XT, but a 5090 will do it way faster. That's almost exclusively only relevant at all if you plan to generate some sort of income with your AI slop with the 5090.
You can first try using paid services for a few weeks to generate AI slop and see how well you can monetize it.

>>109122459
he asked about mobile web browsing retard, not flagship gaming.

>>109122460
>ARM would have made RAM and SSDs cheaper

>>109122460
valve likes amd, plus amd works better on linux.
nvidia is trying to become apple without making their own OS.

>>109120129
Tell that to nvidia