>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICEPost build list or current specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/Provide specific use casesState BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped>CASEmATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 217, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8>CPUGaming: 250K, 14600K, 7/9600X, 7/9800X3D-Budget: 225F, 7500F, 12600KWorkstation: 270K, 9950X3D*Avoid Asrock motherboards on AM5*On Raptor Lake microcode updates are mandatory, avoid second-hand>COOLERAIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Lian Li Galahad II Lite, Corsair Nautilus RS, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67TIM: MX-6, MX-7, Duronaut, *PTM 7950, Kryosheet*Most listings online are not actually 7950>RAMDDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AM5), 6400CL32 (LGA 1700)Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget.), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)>SSD (Keep firmware updated)Budget: SN7100, NM790High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)Premium: SN8100https://borecraft.com/>GPUBudget: Arc B580, 9060xt, 5060-Used: Turing*8gb has become a major constraint even at 1080pMidrange: 5070, 9070-Used: 3080/tiHigh-end: 5070ti, 9070xt>PSUBuying guide:https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/>MONITORBudget: 144-180hz IPS, Mini-LedPremium: 240hz+ QDOLED-QDOLED 240hz+ or QDOLED TV for better HDR but less refresh rate>OSActivate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt>CASE FANSMeta: Case with good stock PWM fansMidrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)Previous : >>109173542
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>amazon tells me the case is going to be here friday>in the same order, the cooler is either wednesday or friday to save costs>because there's no point in getting the cooler first, I hit friday>"Your order is now arriving sooner than expected!"FUCK
https://x.com/Wario64/status/2072553114037539078
>>109181350but i thought prices were going up, not down
reminder to nvidia goym
>>109181360it's a flash promo, they had the 9070xt for 550 and it lastes a few minutes only
>>109181324Exactly the same happened to me. Got the case one day earlier and then had to wait for my fans as I picked the less boxes options as well
>>109181361>nvidia's TERRIFIED of how well the 7600 and 9060xt are doing such that they had to bribe valve to hide their numbers in the hardware surveysounds legit
Realistically, what power budget should I aim for in an ITX build that's going to be used in a hot and humid environment? I don't want my components to throttle or have their lifespan shortened either.I'm targeting a 9950X and a 9070 XT but the more I think about it I realise it's unreasonable.
>>109181274>Recommending the degradation riddled 14600KWhat has pcbg come to...
>>109181460it was only i9s and some of the higher clocked and higher voltage i7s that had the problemsi5s were dogshit and weren't effected because they ran very low voltage and clocks.
>Case: Meshify 3 - $239>GPU: 9070 Asrock - $599.99 (cheapest I could find)>CPU: 9800X3D>RAM: Corsair Vengeance 32Gb CL36>Motherboard: Asus X870E-E>Bundle together: $1,029.99>Air cooler: SK700V - $71.99 Any recommendations on cheapest SSD and PSU for this build? I could settle for less than 1TB. I could also settle for a cheaper MOBO bundle but I really like the look for the ROG.
>>109181449An ITX in a larger box case can get away with those components but toasty. An ITX in a minimum size case where some cooling components basically have to pull air by themselves with no case fan support should stay within the ~60W CPU / ~200W GPU range.
>>109181475Yeah, I'm talking about the minimum size case here (though I wouldn't mind if it was wider, basically a cube). Would choosing a weaker GPU at least allow me to run the CPU at full power (as opposed to Eco mode) if I can fit a good case fan, like a Noctua Industrial?
>>109181460>avoid buying usedthings change as time goes on, both for worse, and for better.
>>109181506It depends entirely on where the GPU exhaust is pointed. If it's a min size case then it's going to be a downdraft cooler, so if the GPU spits out hot air anywhere in that direction it's going to be a big negative even if there's a case fan exhausting (which is then also competing with the downdraft anyway). If the GPU can blow clear out of the case and the CPU cooler is getting only fresh air from the case fan intake, then you can probably push it, or just leave the typical CPU of today to boost normally.
BEEFY computer from counter strike officelook what gpu is inside
>>109181533cooler master heat sink so you know it's good
>>109181533the computr doesn't exist tho
>>109181548its based on the dell dimension
>>109181558inside is a standard case
>>109181533>ASUS and VIA logos clearly visibleThat's a lawsuit, goy
>>109181473Don't cheap out on the PSU. It's better to spend some more bucks on it before it blows up and takes your whole hardware with it in worst case. I'd check the hwbuster list on the OP as it's actually decent. Corsair or be quiet has some decent PSUs for under $200.
>>109181473Seasonic G12 GC 750W or Seasonic G12 GC 850W
>>109181473>>109181573https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies/seasonic-g12-gc-750-750w-power-supply-review
>>10918153325 years on and computer layouts have remained the same.
>>109181468COPE>>109181529What are you even rambling about.
>>109181604we got the new arson connector tho. be happy that everything stayed the same. imagine if they introduced new standards like that connector. (i do like the intel nuc dual chamber design tho)
>>109181604CAMM could change it, but putting the memory on the back behind the cpu is a step too far.
>>109181619just put holes in the back. you can also put them on the top. frame work does that.
use case?
>>109181625No I mean it's not something mobo vendors have seemed willing to try, not that cases wouldn't support it.
>>109181565>>109181573>>109181580Thanks
>>109181632mogged
>>109181625>>109181636what I mean is all the ones I've seen just put it in the same spot as the normal ram, instead of putting it even closer to the processor by using the back, which seems like a much more sensible place, if you can get the layers and vias to play nice.
>>109181652do you have to torque those down like threadripper?
Is a used PC for $400 worth it?parts:Ryzen 7 2700x RTX 2060RAM 32 GBSSD m.2 512 GB+screen
>>109181664nah they don't require that much torque. ooooooh another idea is sticking them on gpus, that way you can have additional memory with slots very close to the die for expandable options. No one will do this because it'd cut into their margin, but it's a neat idea.
>>109181652the back will have clearance and cooling issues
https://x.com/i/status/2072470309047820395Uhhh isn't this anti-semitic?
>>109181361does something about being a schizo prevent them from googling what the cause of something is
>>109181673the ram alone should make it worth it but I assume it's not going to be 3200mhz ram
>>109181674intel could do this but they are ai cucks
>>109181692It's likely DDR4.
>>109181696it can only be ddr4 because it's am4but it's going to be 2666mhz or 2133mhz prob
>>109181685this is a pc building thread retard
Modern tech is pretty neat.I want to do some tests overnight on a new build but don't want to disassemble some of the old stuff, so I took a random cooler I had, put a dab of thermal paste and just set it on top of the CPU.Temps are not great but well bellow tjmax.It's a good time.
>Sony is killing physical discs forever>PC gaming is completely unaffordable>Steam deck and steam machine up by 300$>Consoles are getting massive price hikes again>Switch 2 still has no games >Epic games CEO endorsing AI2026 is the worst year for gaming in history and its not even close
Anyone here used/'s using either the Cooler Master N300 or the N400? How is it?
>>109181712wtf is that designbuy fractal case instead
>>109181711getting a used old amd system with a decent gpu and 1440p is still better than console cuckery.pc gaming won. slop gaming lost.
>>109181711>2026 is the worst year for gamingabout time!
>>109181677A motherboard designed with RAM behind the CPU would also necessarily cause the development of cases meant to cool both sides. Not needing a square of real estate to the right of the CPU also could result in shifting of some components around to make a board more compact than ATX.As for the discussion about the structure of the board required, I don't think it actually matters. The CPU socket would be increased in size to also be the full CAMM socket on the back. Power just needs to be delivered to this unified socket to provide for both.
>>109181722Idunno, a box? It has a bunch of fans and bays which is what I'm looking for. AFAIK only Fractal cases that have bays have those stupid gimmick doors and I'd rather have no case at all than put up with that
>>109181604given how fuck huge GPUs are now some changes here would be welcome
All future generations of kids will never know the joy of trading in their old games at the game store for a shiny new one, then cracking open the case in the car to read the little manual on the ride home...
>>109181766i just traded games with my friends.
Checked back in on Marathon and this is the type of shit they are selling for 10$ in their 40$ extraction shooter No wonder they're going bankrupt
>>109181766new kids arent even got to see magazines or books at this rate, everything will be a screen
>>109181782I think it's time Sony takes Bungie out back and gives them the Old Yeller treatment
Refuting dumb arguments against physical games“85% of players buy digital”15% or even 5% in this industry is still millions of people bringing in hundreds of millions of not billions o revenue“Netflix and Spotify ended movie and music Blu-Rays and CDs”Movies are still being sold on Blu-Ray and 4K UHD Blu-Rays, and music is still released on CDs, vinyl records and even collectible cassette tapes that actually work, despite being far smaller and less demanding than video games which can go over 100GB“I haven’t bought a physical game for 10 years! It’s obsolete”Your experience with games does not automatically reflect everyone else’s. If you don’t care, don’t get in the way“It’s expensive to make games on disc”Games won’t be cheaper when man all digital. You will pay the same price for a glorified rental that can be taken any time due to licensing agreements or account loss/suspension“You’re too broke, you want to buy second hand and resell games”Being a bootlicker to corporations that don’t know you exist, does not make you any less broke than those you accuse and posture in front of behind a keyboardPhysical games should always be an option. Video games are far more than just a file to download or “access” to gain. They hold sentimental value to players and collectors.Raise your voices, players, game makers, gaming and memorabilia stores. Let us overturn this predatory decision!Video games are an art form, not just a business and the value players hold for them should be honored and not reduced to a code to redeem and a download to revoke
>>109181685sony is antisemitic for not playing a holocaust remembrance startup video in all of their software
>>109181855nintendo is making digital cheaper than physical
I know pc building is in a dire state but there is a whole board for video games and while I know they love to discuss anything but video games there especially hate the idea of playing them there is at least one thread about Sony ending physical sales there.
Has anyone here ever had to mount a cooler without its included mounting system? I'm trying to build an ITX PC with a Thermalright AXP90-X36 as the CPU cooler but the backplate either gets blocked by components on the back of the motherboard or prevents everything from fitting in the case because the reverse installation more than doubles the thickness of the backplate and mounting hardware. I'm thinking I might be able to use washers and something to insulate them from the back of the motherboard.
>need a 90 degree 12vhpwr cable for my phantek psu>they don't have any>research if other brands work betwee psus>it's 50/50 whether they do or not>look it up on cablemod>1month deliveryFug.
>>109182030Just bend it bro ;)
>>10918203012v2x6 cables are in theory standardised unlike any other cable.
>>109182040I am, saw a video about it and it doesn't seem that bad as long as you make sure it's bending into the extra 4 connections and that the pins doesn't slide out overall.>>109182045That's what I was thinking, they don't have any onboard chip to calculate stuff, that's where missmatches would be fatal. Cablemod themselves state their cable work between different brands.
>>109181711>muh physicalThis hasn't matterred for yeayrs.
>>109182065If you have 12v2x6 to 12v2x6 they are universal. It only becomes a mess if you have 2 to 4 8-pins to 12v2x6. Corsair and seasonic have universal 12v2x6 cables with 90 degree angle just make sure you order the right direction as this depends on your GPU. As alternative to cablemod you can check moddiy as their cables also come with four leaf terminals instead of three dimple.
>>109182030they're standardized. its even possible to use the newfangled 17A assus equalizer 12v-2x6 on any atx3 or atx3.1 psu with the 12vhpwr connector
>>109182077it matters to the american dadgamers who literally fund the entire hobby
>5900x and 2x16gb ramShould I wait or bite the bullet? Any new big release by end of the year?
>>109182116not really, just wait
>>109182089>>109182090Isn't the cable 12pin on both ends, not 12 to 2x6?
>>1091812747500x3d + 5070good for budget till 2030?
>>109182230maybe zen 6 has better optionsmore coresx3d under the ccd
>>109182230>the ai you can generate with 12gb vram
>>10918219512V-2x6 is just a term. The cable is actually 12+4, 6 power, 6 grounding and 4 sensing pins
>>109182195Read the cable name again. 12 volts, 2x6 pins.
>>109182245Fair enough.I found a universal cable by fasgear. Never heard of that brand, it's a 50usd cable so it seems to be quality.
>>109182195It's actually 16-pinned6x 12 volt pins6x ground pins2x sense wires 2x opt wires
>>109182318would the cable burn less if it had 15 x 12v pins1 ground, and thats itits not like the sense pins or grounds do fuckall to prevent melties
>>109182308Cable or adapter? Adapter introduces another point of failure I'd be careful with those.
>>109182324it would burn less if it had fewer, thicker wires that can each take a greater load before overheating
>>10918235448VHPWR is a thing which would make 600w a nothingburger
>>109182389Breaking ATX standard compatibility is a huge risk to manufacturers
>>109182398then they should make a new one. People are already upgrading PSUs to reduce the risk of melting. Just look at all the new mental gymnastic gimmicks PSUs have just to detect potential melting
>>109182335Cable. Doesn't seem to be a psu brand, so I guess it's universal.
>>109181711>pc gaming is completely unaffordableit's not sexy, but getting 60fps at 1080p is still affordable.
its going to be a weird year for people who want to get into gaming and seeing 1k € consoles and 400€ ram imagine you're like teenager or early 20's and need budget hardware, these people are out of luck, and theres a lot of themits similarly disruptive as covid, except you're not allowed to play video games or run a company that makes systems that require silicon chips for a while
>>109182463They're gonna have to get old haswell systems with ddr3 and learn to install windows 7 or linux
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3wGgn2Yay or Nay? Country: PolandMainly for 1080p gaming with upgrading posibilities. Budget around 2000$
>>109182475they just won't bother with games at all unless it runs on their phone. There is a reason why younger generations spend more time on tiktok and other free forms of entertainment than anything else.
>>109182482Its seriously getting into streaming video games getting a foothold and a large group of people going "ofc I stream video games, its 20 bucks a month instead of paying thousands to do it locally at worse quality, duh"
Ughhhhhhh I want to buy Noctua's AIO.UGHHHHH.Where's fucking Gamers Nexus review on it?Fucking Steve.
>>109182517you want a 300€ aio?for your cpu that runs at 60w during gaming?go buy it already
Any advice on CPU fans acting weird? I can't get mine to respond consistently to controls from BIOS or any fan control programs. It barely ever turns on unless I flick it a few times to get it started, and even then it'll just stop randomly and let my CPU overheat
>>109182543try replugging the fan power cable into the correct holemake sure the fans blow in the right directioninstall newest bios
>>109182495If you look at recommended requirements for games instead of /pcbg/ reqs, you're gonna see that 16GB of RAM, a ryzen5600 and a rx 9060xt are fine for 1440p gaymen.
>>109182517>No full black version out of the box>Support fan is only available on brownpass for me
>>109181711I'm just happy that I can go back and play retro games and not absolutely shit myself cause "muh gwafix!", but I will admit that having some of the modern QoL aspects missing in old games is very annoying.
>>109182713I find myself playing more and more retro indie games. The game I'm looking forward to is Phase Zero. Which is a game than be ran on a toaster. Conscript was also a fantastic game. I'm burned out on """""realistic"""" graphics.
>>109182713doesn't need to be retro but indie games in general have become much more appealing if you ignore the bloatware. /Pcbg/ Barotrauma server when?
>>109182713there are a few live service games that are worth playing as forever games, dota 2, path of exile 1 and 2, warthunder, I play these three and they are fun in different ways, some people play pubg, fortnite, cod, counter strike, those are all good gameswhat happened was narrative games kinda died, you don't get anyone making new fallouts and skyrims that are unique and fun, they are either bad or copies of those games
Any opinions on the g502 x lightspeed? Second wired g502 that I have with a double clicking left button. No idea why I cheapened out the second time, or maybe it was before they released an optical sensor one.I am too used to the buttons, and couldn't find a matching one. Or maybe somebody can recommend me a mouse with even better buttons?
>>109182900It's a good mouse but it still uses dogshit switches in auxiliary buttons.I really like the g502 form-factor so I got g502 X Plus (or whatever is the most expensive) and its side buttons started double-triple-quadruple clicking in a year or so.Switched to Razer Basilisk because of that. So far no issues, but I've been using it for just about a year too.
Have we finally hit the point of diminishing returns with gpus? I'm trying to think of what exactly Nvidia can improve upon whenever they release their 6000 series other than dlss.
>>109182900Get into chinese mice. Seriously. I don't know why anyone shills logitech so much.
>>109182900if you don't want double clicking you need optical switches. If you don't want wheel jumping you need an optical encoder. Mice that have both? Nearly non existing so you cannot be picky if you want something long lasting
Valve is actively exploring the use of ARM processors in future SteamOS gaming devices.SteamOS developer Pierre-Loup Griffais told PC Gamer that Valve is “definitely” investigating ARM as a long-term option because ARM chips are becoming more powerful while using less power.A big part of that work is FEX, a compatibility layer that lets games made for x86 processors run on ARM hardware. The goal is to let existing PC games work on ARM devices without developers needing to create separate versions.Valve also made it clear that this is early research, not a product announcement. Valve says it simply wants to be ready if ARM becomes a better option for gaming in the future.
>>109182930For example?>>109182908The Basilisk v3 pro is even more expensive and less buttons.
are chink mini pcs well priced or can I build similiar one on my own cheaper if i don't need the small size?https://pl.aliexpress.com/item/1005010600463852.html This one was 400$
>>109182974The ARM ones are great, the x86 ones are all overpriced.
>>109182949AKA Valve is seeking a discount from AMD for the APU in the Steamdeck 2
reminder the 9070xt uses +100w to gain 5% fps and you should be using it with - 30% power limit
Thoughts after a few hours of playing with Steam Machine.- 3D performance is just…meh.- The system recommends to default to 1080p - am I going back to PS4 days?- Some games take a looooooong time to boot, what is it doing?- System UI is easy to use.- Being able to boot up by pressing a button on Steam Controller is a killer feature.- Changeable face plate is nice.- Random boot up videos is a nice touch :)- Sticks on Steam Controller is a bit looser than my taste.- Having touch pad is nice, but it is very “touchy” and hard to use.- It allows me to play Steam games on my living room TV, which is a reason enough to keep it. - But the price was very unfriendly. Hard to recommend to people unless for research
>>109183023how big is the wattage difference between nividia? i was considering amd for my next build when linux gets good enough, but i had my last nvidia gpu for like 6 years, wonder how much electricity difference that would create
>>1091830233070ti moment
>>1091830785070ti uses about 30% less power than the 9070xt and performs about 5% faster on average5080 is similarly factory OC'd like the 9070xt and pulls far more power than the 5070ti for only 10% more performance
>>109183088NTA but why the fuck do many people recommend the 5070 TI when it sounds like the 9070xt is a better value?
>>109183078latest comparisonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9VkkMBmsBQlatest comparison with only those two cardshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d26LNi0FTrQ
>>1091831015070ti is an overall more polished experience, not that it's worth the insane 50% markup it has these daysyou get cuda and dlss2,3,4 is way better supported across all games than fsr4/4.1 isnvidia also supports higher bandwidth DP2.1 UHBR20, a slightly better video encoder, is better supported in productivity software and has rtx hdr
>>109181563nowadays its free marketing like how you see galax in 3dmark port royal
>>109183128i wouldnt call 5000 series a polished experience. it has a ton of driver issues.
>>109183149it was bad at the start with their panic fixes but there were usable drivers like 572.83, 580.88 and its largely been fixed with 595.97. amd also released a pretty buggy driver with 26.6.2 recently so I wouldn't say any of them are better or worse than the other in driver stability today
>>109183101nvidia shills
>>109183128fsr4.1 is good and it's in all modern new games, I think having linux support is better than the rest of those features
>>109183101>>109181361
>>109183088>>109183110if i lived in my mom's basement she wouldn't be too happy from the power usage then lmaonow when i pay my own bills amd just seems like a better choice after doing the calculationshopefully shit like steam os gets even better
>>109183065Furry Japanese on 4chan? What has the USA done to your people...
>>109183186Not so much on games before the 9000 release. But also AI. There many helpful things I do with local AI with my 5080.
>>109183065>https://x.com/Pirat_Nation/status/2072651752097419571Waow it's like I'm on X while on 4chan at the same time
>>109183065I couldn't do it. It comes out at a bad time, so I forgive them for it, but they have to do better next time.I decided not to use my ticket.
steam machine with the fractal ridge + 7800x3d + 9070xt is the future
The steam machine is a silver lining of the ram apocalypse.steam machine = an actual low-end machine that reviewers will actually own.reviewers kept calling $2500 homebuilts "midrange". Finally a reality check.
I got all the parts to a completely new build sitting in my room, but I'm too lazy to reinstall windows and all that jazz. Is cloning my drive retarded?
>>109183545unless you have hundred of group policies and registry entries set yourself I'd always set up windows again to clean up all the garbage that it accumulates in the background. It's a matter of a few hours for me at least.
we live in a society
>>109183583twoja mama sapirdala
>>109183583the alternative of paying 9000 currency is paying 10000 currency + 10000 currency for RAM + 5000ish currency for a moboeven the 9800x3d is a god damned freebie compared to i9 9001 xtreeeem editions of the past, lol. €1000 + foreskin tip
>>109183545Cloning is perfectly fine. I still wouldn't because a semi-regular cleanout of all the bloated and broken Windows bullshit you accumulate over time is never a bad idea.I would only clone my system if it were relatively fresh or you image an install specifically to use for new machines.Just use Clonezilla off a USB.
>>109183616AM5 mobos dropped to a more reasonable prices. And I could recoup the cost by selling the old parts with 48GB ddr4 ram.
did that one anon get his 9950x3d2 yet?
windows 10 bros, did anyone update to 26.6.4? I'm fine on .1, wondering if it's any better to update.
>>109183616The 5800x3d doesn't have the performance of the 9800x3d full stop.So what the fuck are you paying for?So you can FEEL like you got the best performance on DDR4? Or is it because you hate Intel?It would be one thing if everyone just admitted it's for AM4 retards who refused to upgrade for YEARS at bottom end pricing for RAM. But nah I guess we can't hurt their feelings or something
>>109182543>>109182546Almost convinced me I had it backwards. None of this worked though. Do I need a new fan?
>>109182100So, the people we want gone? The gaming industry needs to be utterly destroyed.
>>109183666>AM4 retards who refused to upgrade for YEARS at bottom end pricing for RAMI've read some genuinely dumb takes during 2022 ~ mid '25 in these threads, all from retards who think they can perfectly time the market's lowest prices.People could've bought the same PC components they've been panic buying this year at a significantly cheaper price.The same goes for the PS5 Pro discount last year for the GTA6 waiters™.Monitors and other peripherals are the only "new" components people had to wait to release.>9950X3D2Maybe one or two people in this thread have needs that fully utilize that chip over the 9950X3D.
>>109183583www.mailboxde.czNemci majú lačnejšie komponentyjedine čo budeš platiť extra je poštovnégeizhals.eu alebo idealo.de (porovnávanie cien)aby som bol úprimní, počkaj na am6
>>109183752i dont care about needs. i want to compare cinebench scores to a real person in the wild. at least two anons said they would get one :(
>>109183763Ten rozdíl není tak velký aby se mi zachtělo jebat s němcama. Navíc amazon.de má často poštovné zdarma.
i just got an oled monitor, how the hell am i supposed to know when a pixel refresh is done, it doesn't turn back on automatically and if i turn it back on too soon, it starts bitching at me for not finishing the refresh, this seems like a huge design oversight
So I have an Antec Flux Pro Noctua Edition. I've attached a diagram of the fan setup that I have now. The manual says that what I have installed now is optimal airflow, but there's still room for 2-3 140mm fans on the bottom, and one more 120mm fan right above the PSU shroud with about a half-inch to an inch of clearance between the PSU and the fan, should I put one there. Would I get any benefit by installing more fans in here? I attached a diagram, with (?) representing fans that I could potentially put in the case. Also the fucking PSU is supposed to be installed sideways for some reason? Is that normal? Beneficial?
>>109184204Also, if I have a bottom intake vent, should I have my PSU intake fan facing the bottom of the case or the top of it?
>>109183752>all from retards who think they can perfectly time the market's lowest prices.No one can time the bottom.HOWEVER there are clear good times to buy.Me personally there were Z690 boards that were pretty heavily discounted. Some generations of LGA1700 CPUs that where also discounted. I could then get a 96GB DDR5 kit for $300 at this point which seemed like a good deal considering DDR5 was still young and I wouldn't have to buy any new memory when I wanted an upgrade.If you're on the AMD side things weren't so discounted but if you believed in AMD's socket longevity buying a X670E or a X870E wouldn't have seemed like a bad investment.I just honestly can't get over the mentality, people fuss about CPU performance but aren't actually willing to buy/upgrade, until it's too late. Now they are paying a premium for components for a few years ago and still don't have the CPU performance they really desire.Are people not actually that interested in PCs to just keep an eye out every now and then? I'm literally not timing the bottom, I just like what I see and upgrade if the money is there.I just don't get it man
>>109184204I have the non-notuca version of that case.I put a row of fans along the GPU... Shelf? And moved two fans to the floor slots.I also have three fans at the top for the top rad.And my suggestion is as followed:This fucking case has more than enough airflow as is, it's not going to make any fucking difference. If you wanna put some cool fans there, go ahead and do it, because it looks pretty cool. PSU up/down is debatable. If you turn it upside down, you isolate it, which is fine as it means it gets a dedicated airflow channel. However, there's also an argument to be made that if you use the case pressure to draw air through the PSU, that's the same thing and means you can turn the PSU fan off, and the PSU fan is going to be a cheaper/worse fan than all your notcua fans.
>>109184315unless it's the noctua psu
>>109184325Yeah, true.
>>109183065>The system recommends to default to 1080p - am I going back to PS4 days?I know what this post is from, but this still annoys me. The PS5 can't consistently run 1080p, let alone the PS4 or other consoles. This fake resolution bullshit has gone too far and people don't even realize it. I can't believe it's even infected PC games, you'll get astroturfing here where cards are recommended based on which model has the latest potato console features for running below native resolution.
>>109184313>Are people not actually that interested in PCs to just keep an eye out every now and then?Usually people just get a pc, run it for years and once they notice there are issues or they can't run some games anymore they look what's going on in the market and upgrade. This worked fine before prices magically skyrocketed cause of some tech trends.
hands up>overclock>undervolt?
>>109184566max power limit + undervolt
>>109184315> that's the same thing and means you can turn the PSU fan off, and the PSU fan is going to be a cheaper/worse fan than all your notcua fans.I have the Seasonic TX-1600 Noctua edition as well, with the Noctua fan inside of it. (I am in fact a Noctua fanboy, and I wanted it to color match. Also, I managed to get it for free by accident)So you're saying that basically there's going to be no difference between the default setup and adding any fans? I still feel like two 140mm on the bottom could be pushing a lot of air, especially for cooling off the NVMes. I already removed the HDD/SSD tray so that it wouldn't block any airflow.Also I tried putting the PSU in sideways like recommended and it wouldn't fit, so it's just gonna go in the normal way, I guess.
Should I be concerned about this big scratch in my AIO's cold plate?
As of today my desktop case is old enough to drink
>9070XT will be here tomorrow>5500x3D will be a 1-2 weeks awayHow much of a bottleneck will I be facing with a 3600 for now? May as well still slap the GPU in right?
>>109184582>Seasonic TX-1600 Noctua editiondidn't Igors Lab complain that the fan on this one is too small so it runs hotter compared to the regular TX-1600?
>>109184821It's way to far off from the center to matterUp to you if you wanna stick with the cosmetic damage or rma/refund it
>>1091848313600 is usable but you will definitely feel it in all cpu-heavy titles
>>109184847It didn't have the scratch when I unboxed it, this is after taking it off to remount it because I was getting pretty bad tempsThe scratch exactly matches the outline of my CPU's heatspreader So no realistically it's not going to do anything I guess
>>109184519If people where that disinterested, they wouldn't be FOMOing over a 5800X3D and they probably buy a laptop.You don't build a PC, proceed to justify buying an overpriced component, then feign ignorance and disinterest as to why you didn't upgrade sooner.
thinking I should go with an amd gpu to complete my buildthe 5500x3d is already on the low end and nvidia gpus have cpu overheadupscalers also put load on the cpu, so I figure not having dlss is less of a problemseems legit?
>>109181473>I could settle for less than 1TB>$240 caseMaybe you should get your priorities straight and stop treating your pc like a room decoration.
>>109184821I've got a faint outline of my AM4 CPU on my fuma 2's plate. It's probably normal.
>>109184914you're overthinking it, you're gonna need a monster GPU for that to matter.
yay or neigh?
Does this slot support NVMe?
>>109185156nay on the plastic plant, accept some responsibility in your life, for fuck's sake
>>109185164Did you refer to your motherboard's manual first?
>>109185156Nay, case too big and ugly
>>109185156looks alright but if you don't like RGB then why not some proArt board?
>>109185198too big.
>He didn't get a 270k before the $50 price increase
Prices are so fucked now I'm just genuinely gonna buy a prebuilt
>>109185156Perfomative male bullshit
>>109185156Why should I bother making my PC look good when nobody else is ever gonna see it?
>>109185420>He thought Intel was his friend and would keep prices low.LaughingSquidward.gif
>>109185553You do it for yourself. Why would you seek approval from other people?
>>109184844IDK I bought this one because it fit with the theme and I trust Noctua. At least for now, I'm using some old parts so I doubt it's going to be an issue.
>>109185637It's overall one of the best the market has right now and if not for their enterprise opti guard being released Q4 or early next year I'd have gotten a tx-1600 too. I doubt you can push it to the point that it really matters but it may be a consideration when you decide the fan orientation.
>>109185691"Enterprise Opti-Guard" that already sounds like massive overkill to the massive overkill I already bought. Even with brand new, flagship parts I doubt I could hit anywhere near 1600W continuously.In terms of fan orientation, I think it's an intake fan, not an exhaust fan, so having right-side up so that the fan is facing the bottom should be fine, right? There's a vent there and it should pull in enough air.
>>109185188I don't have a manual. Someone gave it to me and they don't know anything about computers.
>>109185710OptiGuard is their per pin measure for the 12V-2x6 but it's only part of their "enterprise" TX-1600. I assume that means it will be hilarious expensive. I kinda dislike that it connects to the motherboard via bluetooth and how well their software runs for the measurement will show. I went for an ASUS ROG Thor 1200 as its OEM is Seasonic and 1600 is overkill for my current set up even with a 5090. Maybe if the next gen AMD CPUs have significant more power draw I may regret it but I doubt it and for the next GPU gen I can just buy a new PSU based on what they need.>so having right-side up so that the fan is facing the bottom should be fine, right?Aren't they always intake? As the other anon pointed out if the fan faces downwards it has its own independent airflow from the bottom. If the fan faces upwards it will fight with the GPU for air with the other fans in place I dont think that's the best idea but I'm honestly not entirely sure.
Do you have to go ultrawide for monitors with decent gayming performance over 32"?
When will dram drop?
>>109185802When AI implodes, which it never will, because the technocrats that run the west have decided that whoever wins the AI race will own the entire world.
>>109185744>OptiGuard is their per pin measure for the 12V-2x6 but it's only part of their "enterprise" TX-1600I'm gonna be honest, I haven't built a PC in 15 years and this thing is still using an 11th gen mobo/CPU so I'm not entirely sure what all that means.
>>109185821If you dont have a RTX 5090 or another high end OC'ed GPU that pushes the new 12v-2x6 connector to its limit it doesnt matter.
>>1091858022030 if Micron's plans go through and Samsung+Hynix follow suit.
>>109185836Well I really hope I don't end up regretting my purchase later. This PSU is supposed to be the best of the best that's available right now, and parts were already so insanely expensive I've still spent like $5,000 or so on trying to make this hybrid frankenstein build with a 4080 Super, 64GB of DDR4, and an i9-11900 work.I'm just going to cross my fingers and assume that the PSU I bought is good enough for whatever happens in the future when I finally do get around to replacing the mobo and CPU. It's got ATX 3.1 and PCIe 5.1 capability! Whatever that means.
I’ve upgraded, and I’d only just found out about this thread… cheez…anyway...CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5500X3DGPU: Sapphire Pulse Radeon RX 9060 XT 16 GBRAM: 32 GB Kingston FURY Beast DDR4-3200Storage: Kingston NV3 1 TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSDMotherboard: ASUS Prime B550M-K ARGBCPU Cooler: Corsair Nautilus 240 RS ARGBPSU: ASUS Prime 850W 80+ Gold (Modular)Case: XYZ Airone 100 Mesh (White)Wi-Fi: Cudy AX3000 Wi-Fi 6 + Bluetooth 5.2 PCIe AdapterIt was about $900-1,000 – I’ll be getting it any day now.
>>109185802Bro you missed your chance. We told you.you didn't listen.
>>109185860Looks fine for that price.
>>109185857OptiGuard is just a safety feature that allows you to potentially see too high ampere on the connector that can lead to melting. The current TX-1600 IS one of the top tier PSU you can get right now and as mentioned unless you intentionally screw around with the 12V2-x6 cable or don't plug it in all the way properly you should have enough headroom. It's really only the 5090 that pushes its to its limit as it has a power draw of 600W when the standard is designed for max 680W from what I remember. We don't know what the next gen GPUs will be. Maybe they fix the melting all together but who knows.
It's after Q2 ThermaltakeWhere is it?
>>109184202Typically pixel refresh is designed so when you stop using the monitor and let it idle it does it automatically while you go to sleep or somethingif it started flashing "REFRESH COMPLETE" that would be mega annoying for people who want the screen to be perfectly black while they're trying to sleep in the same room
>>109182991Valve has gotten both the steamdeck and steam machine APUs for dirt cheap, they were both already designed by AMD and weren't selling so I guarantee you they sold them at whatever price valve quoted.
>>109185884I didn’t like the motherboard, but it was the best one they had in stock; besides, I wanted the R7 7800X3D but the price had shot up to $500
>>109185965ASUS Prime is fine for most people, the VRM cooling is only problematic if you paired it with a CPU with higher power draw and plan to run Cinebench for an extended period.PC component shopping strategy is all about financial damage limitation for the next few years (or forever).
>>109185164M key, so it is likely to.
should i goychase(goy purchase) 3d mark software standalone or on steam
>>109186091If you buy it, get it on sale. I paid very little for it.
>>109186101yes its on sale for around 7 bucks for almost everything they offer both on their site and on steam im just not sure which purchase to go with
>>109186115Lowest recorded was apparently 85% but that hasn't happened in at least the last two years. Might as well pull the trigger.
>>109185958i don't see how a small dim logo or something going through each corner for a couple of seconds would disrupt anyone's sleep unless they were facing the screen while sleeping.i don't see why a refresh complete pop up couldn't be an option either, disable it if you only do refreshes while sleeping.i use my screen around 14-15 hours per day, i kinda have to do at least one refresh during the day and not knowing when i can switch from my secondary screen back to the oled is kinda annoying.
>>109186163You dont need to do anythingthe monitor does it automaticallyif you halt a refresh then it does it later when you stop using it, so it doesnt matter
New survey is out https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/ Now 4 of the top 10 most popular GPU's are 50 series gpus
>>109186198i know i don't HAVE to do anything, but i'm attempting to get as many years out of the screen as possible, actively using it for 15 hours a day with stationary elements on the screen for hours without refreshes doesn't sound like a very smart thing to do if you're going for longevity
>>109186241Yeah its not a great monitor for continuous static elements. Can you try to make it so the static stuff is kept on lcd monitor more and the oled is more for media use or something.
>>109183101If you are paying above $600 for a GPU you either need CUDA or dont want Grace to look like this which is something that you are forced to accept when you buy an AMD GPU
>>109186250considering almost all games have static ui elements to at least some extent, not really, i don't want to use the screen primarily for watching videos.i feel like this is the best way i can handle with it while also getting to use the screen for what i bought it for, i'm just confused by the choice to omit such a feature but still offering the choice for manual refreshes>>109186239amd users still getting shafted by the fact that the survey was bugged and didn't show the 9000-series cards properly, and god knows when they will get another chance to partake in it
>>109186282usecase for makeup
>>109186288Actually current month is fixed, You can find all 90 series GPU is just what happen when they cant run path tracing
>>109186301doesn't mean the past data is fixed, there are still probably a bunch of 90 series gpus stuck in the other or unbranded amd category due to the users not getting another chance to partake in the hardware survey after it was fixed
amd gpus are hanging in the discussion mostly thanks to gddr6 memory vs gddr7 pricing which disproportionately affected high end nvidia cards. 5070 ti is not worth it for gaming at 50% extra vs 9070 xt, but people do more than gaming.I use nvidia features which amd lacks so I dont consider amd for myself Unless someone specifies a unique usecase the only gpu that makes sense these days is 5070
The biggest problem is that the ryzen ai pro r9700 exists, and nvidia doesn't have an answer in the $1200 region.nvidia just cucked the ram so hard. It's sad.
Current best 144hz 1440p monitor for a budget build?
>>109186558Theres 2 broad categorieslame ips panels with no special features that hover around 150-250€miniled panels that can into hdr and better contrast that are slightly more expensiveThe former category its hard to say anything about becauses theres a lot of models that are hard to distinguish from each other
>>109186558mini led
>>109186342nvidia & intel just works. amd requires lots of tuning just to be stable.
If you're a good person, who doesn't think bad things that are banned in LLM's or in the UK, then buy led of some kind
>>109186239>1060 still more popular than any amd gpu
>>1091866039070 xt was first good gpu amd released in a loooong while
Will the "Ryzen 7 5800X3D - 10th Anniversary Edition" work on any board that accepts a standard 5800X3D? Also how much of an upgrade is it coming from a 5600X (paired with 32GB of RAM and an RX 7700 XT)?
Most consumers are uninformed, and buy prebuilts.
>>109185963Intel said as much at ces this year.Something along the lines of "amd is only planning on putting unused outdated hardware into minipcs" and they were right.
>>109186652Your gpu is rather weak so you might not see a big differenceon a more powerful gpu, say a 5070 youd see better 1% lows and have a better time
>>109186115Tryhards run 3DMark without Steam.You can still get access to the non-Steam installer after going through a few hoops.Get the Steam version if you're an achievement hunter.
>the best 2026 display has a bezelit's over
>>109186339actually it does not work like that. i am sorry to say this but amd lost
>>109186611>9070 xt>good
>>109186768AMD won simply by giving enough ram for ai.You never hear about AMD because everything's just slop.You literally can't ever justify nvidia, at the consumer level. for ai, that is.
Why do israelis like gifs so much?
>>109186342The 9070 XT is the proof that retards dont deserve good things. AFTER years of saying how upscaling dont matter and how AMD was the brand value (where you could have buy a 7900 XTX for $700 vs 1600$ for a 4090) this same retards are now willing to pay $600 for 16gb of vram and mid range performance inferior to a 4080 super from 5 years ago for $600 because AMD now has upscaling
>>109184831There would be no bottleneck. Replacing 3600 with 5600 is a very strange idea honestly. I'd rather not do it. Just cancel the order or smth.You see, 3600 is e-waste tier in 2026, but if you already have it, you either keep it, or replace with something better, like 5600 at the very least. Which is still questionable, but at least give noticeable difference.
>>109186779Steam hardware survey says otherwise.
why is he comparing used to new, but incorrectly?
>>109186611>9070 xt good
>>109186802steam doesn't even have ai. Kids with nvidia don't know why they can't do ai.Most people are losers, let's face it. Most people lose a war and pretend they won because they're losers.
>>1091867964080 super was $1000, moron
There some retards out there that even paid above msrp for the 9070 XT because redditors told them is a good card while having the option to buy this one for $700 for years
>>109186816You cant read, but its ok you are clearly to mad to have an honest conversation about paying $600 for a MID RANGE card on 2026 that is still slower than 4080 super
>>109186830your comparison is retarded just like you
>>109186834Cope and seethe with 16gb of VRAM, guess what the 7900 XTX is better on everything except AI, upscaling and gaytracing. Guess what AMDRONES know use those 3 things to justify WASTING their money on a midrange card while paying nvidia prices
>>109186830You can get more with AMD used.you can't compare half of used to new.You're dishonest, that's all.
>>109186847>better on everything except AIai is all that matters, gramps
>>109186852You cant read, and its ok, you wasted your money on a MIDRANGE 16gb card
>>109186857x moneyspend onAMDend of discussion.(for ai: all that matters)*unless it's a server system, obviously
Again, nvidia is a "did not place on the board in any tier".We can sort of be like, well, the rtx 6000 is kind of cool, yeah, but for the same money you can do better with AMD using multiple pcs.
I'll spend $600 on a midrange card with 16gb of vram with a performance from 2022
>>109185802Never if you keep voting for republicans
>>109186891no, you'll spend $900 on your midrange 5070ti
The 9070xt makes me fucking sick to my stomach
>>109186914Imagine owning a 7900XTX
"Judas was paid">109186931>109186914
>>109186603Digital Foundry predicted this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcOqPuwZ-xs
Again, for ai (LLM), you never buy nvidia. Unless you're setting up a server.nvidia's server stuff is totally different from their stupid trash for "gaymers".
>>109186950Why do you care what children do?The steam survey doesn't show average $ spent per year associated with a primary gpu.Now, knowing that would be funny.Both are relevant. total and gross. If you're a dev, you should demand this info.
if they were to separate laptop, prebuilts and diy in the steam survey you'll amd is more like 50% of the diy market, nvidia just has more ignorant people buying "gaming laptops" and prebuilts
>>109186973I just demand that we continue to make fun of retards that actually bought a 9070 XT A MID RANGE CARD WITH 16GB and paying $600 for it on 2026 with a performance similar to cards from 2022 Now that FSR 4.1 is avaliable for it, the only thing a overpriced 9070 XT is better than a 7900 XTX is gaytracing, AI and having 16 gb of vram
>>109187000>on 2026What a strange thing to say...
>>109186950AMD rendering looks real time. Nvidia rendering looks fake as hell. People often say Radeon colors look better and its not a meme. Nvidia has been doing color compression since Pascal.
fsr isn't an ai (LLM) feature. I'm kind of shocked people buy computers for games, that's kind of idk. childish. I sure hope nobody here does any of that... island list... kind of stuff.
>>109187010https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/9g1tdd/why_does_color_space_have_such_an_effect_on/
>>109187005I could say this on 2025 too, AMD retards for year refused to pay nvidia prices but the moment they were shown a mid range card that could do upscaling suddenly ITS THE FIRST GOOD CARD they release when in reallity they just got shilled garbage
>>109187010nvidia can't render colors properly, always been a thing, they'll fix it by 2050
It's just over for nvidia stans, now that all we do is run ai (llms) locally. Maybe one day nvidia will release a card worth buying. They'll have to totally change their ways. So, they won't.nvidia is over and irrelevant in the modern era, though some people still don't know.
There is absolutely NO meaningful benefit to using 2-dimm motherboards for AMD Ryzen X or X3D CPUs. In his recent X870 motherboard video, Steve from Hardware Unboxed stated that 2-dimm motherboards allow you to attain higher memory frequencies. This is NOT true and highlights the problem with a journalist doing tech reviews ... he has no real understanding of the tech, and is incapable of testing the components properly to discover the truth.
>>109187027they will never fix it. this is how they squeeze down their vram/bandwidth usage to make lower vram/bus cards. normies are fine with their games looking like pirated compressed movies but amd is like true bluray quality you get on consoles.
>>109187014I was invited to the island 1000 times
>>109187048zen 6 is going to mog zen 54 pretty bad anyway, that review will be worthless in 6 monthszen 5 and 4 are basically AM4+ stuff, real AM5 starts now that they finally updated the memory controller
>>109187048something something more traces are better and microatx have less so they are worse
Poorfag Retardeon schizo copes about his purchase yet again.
>>109187087https://hardforum.com/threads/amd-vs-nvidia-colors-concrete-proof-of-differences.2023939/
>>109187095A sensible reply from that same forum thread.Get mental help, but you're clearly a hopeless Indian.
What's with the autist having a melty over AMD?Is this "normal" here?
no one cared who I was until I put on the Radeon
>>109187116Even the Nvidia GPUs in datacenters agree with me on this one
>>109187116nvidia fanboy detected
>>109187125Go ahead and agree with hallucinated bullshit while I'll stay grounded in reality.
>Linux>wp_color_management_v1>full AMD supportI wondered why AMD looked better, nvidia just doesn't prioritize color.
>hey everyone should buy x brand gpu because it makes your poo smell better>source: it came to me in a dream>trust me what organization out there could possible gain anything from making 4chan pcbg hard to parse with mindless llm shitposting
>>109187137AMD has softer image but true colors, Nvidia has oversharpened image with worse colors.
>>109187169Imagine RTX 5090 or 6000 RTX Pro card owners settling for "oversharpened image with worse colors".Hardware Unboxed Steve and Gamers Nexus would have a field day about this topic if it was true (it isn't).Get help.
>>109187147HDR just works on AMD for Linux & SteamOS. It's completely broken on Nvidia.
Doesnt the nvidia has worse colors come from windows defaulting the wrong color space Limited instead of full like 15 years ago or something?Nvidia improved the dlss hdr pipeline meme thingy recently so it actually has better colors in hdr alsoAMD cant compete with upscaling + colorsits literally over
>>109187166It's backwards. LLM learn from web scraping forums.They spam to get into the LLM.
>>109187181they are largely clueless. techyescity already covered it. amd has better colors like how intel has better latency.
>>109187184only children and manchildren use upscaling. Fake frames are acceptable in some cases, but not fake pixels. When you add fake pixels you reduce measurably information.
>>109187191A reply full of teenage angst & delusions of grandeur.Would be cute if it wasn't written by a forty year old virgin manchild.
>>109187204If Nvidia own AI GPUs are saying its true then its true. They analyze their own hardware and admit defeat.
when you play call of duty, you feel like you're in the game on amd. on nvidia it feels super video gamey and not in a good way it feels fake and moviesh instead of real time.
Pc building?
>>109187209Modern NVIDIA GPUs and drivers aren't tampering with color settings.You get the most accurate digital color signal OOTB.
nvidia hardare T&L is for the color blind
>>109187226The higher driver overhead on Nvidia attributes to the cinematic feel.
>>109187231normies are priced out
>>109187232Nvidia at a architecture level compresses their colors since Pascal. It's supposed to be "lossless" like DSC but we know both are lossy in reality.
>>109187226its true, its why Nintendo uses Nvidia, simply because it doesn't do true colors and invokes the memory of consoles of the past.
>>109187231Steam Machine Pro
In these past few years, being a PC and console gamer I've seen:> average GPU MSRP rising (RTX 3080 had a $699 MSRP VS RTX 5080 which costs $999)> RAM and Storage prices rising exponentially due to memory shortages> numerous UE5 games that struggle to run properly even on high-end hardware> Sony made so many live-service games for PS5, it almost feels like this generation of consoles has properly started> Numerous game studios getting closed> Consoles rising in price constantly instead of going down as they're nearing the end of their life cycle> Game Pass and PS plus price hikes> Game discs requiring an online connection to installNow, starting in 2028, physical games will come to an end.This isn't just about Sony's recent decision to end physical media, its about gaming in general that has evolved from being a nice hobby that you would enjoy to something that is downright unsustainable.I don't know if all of this is happening because of the lack of competition, but as customers I can definitely say that we're constantly getting screwed over.At some point you have to wonder, where did all go wrong?
>>109187264it's insane how much more colorful is switch emulation on pc with my 9070 xt than on the original switch, the fire emblem games look beautiful
>>109187274>w11my condolences
>>109187286two nvmes, two operating systems
I think that when my cooler arrives tomorrow I will put everything I have together, and the gpu will just not be there till I can get the money for it.
>>109187264I wondered why I didn't like the Switch. nvidia, that's why it sucks. wondered why...
My motherboard lists the RAM slots as DDR4_A1, DDR4_A2, DDR4_B1, and DDR4_B2. For dual channel, what slots am I filling with two sticks of RAM?
>>109187305they are color coded
I wonder if the people who think the dress was blue also like nvidia.
>>109186596Isn't AMD the de facto king of CPUs?
>>109187263AMD also uses Delta Color Compression, we've been through this.https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/108718900/#108725942Get help.>>109187282Anyone can change the color saturation slider or other "enhancements".NVIDIA has these disabled by default because a decent amount of their customers rely on these GPUs to complete color critical work.You get reference grade color settings OOTB when you own and set up an NVIDIA card that better reflects the creator's intent (let application decide by default).
>>109187310>AMD the de facto king of CPUs?
>>109187264>>109187282nintendo have felt worse since they moved from powerpc/radeon. arm and nvidia is slow and ugly. smash bros on wii u was butter smooth compared to switch version.
>>109187315AMD does it when its near out of memory, Nvidia does it all the time.
>>109187308Not on this one.
>>109187365and Nvidia uses higher ratios.
>>109187365Get help.Bullshitting in 4Chan for years won't unfuck your miserable life.
Lets talk about something that actually exists and matters : Why does 16gb of amd vram = 13.5gb of Nvida vram?
>>109187310Good news / bad newsbad first: shillsgood: since the shills are israeli, you get information - amd cpu and amd gpu aren't riddled with mossad spyware.
>>109187368this is from my board
>>109187385Some mobo manuals say you can damage your mobo if you do it wrong.imo that's stupid and they should just beep at you.
I suddenly got a hyper fixation on having a rig that is really small and portable. Look at this cute thing! I really want one like that now
>>109187436you dont need it and you're not going to use it
>>109187305You usually populate A2 & B2 slots.
>>109187436having a tiny microbox is fun. I would recommend you get a silverstone itx supply instead of the terrifying e-waste apevia one (despite it being a quarter the cost)
>>109187443So? Computers are fun to just build.
First DDR5 Kit with EXPO ULL just arrived. Let’s see how the fine tuned sub-timings compared to the manuell optimization will work out.
>>109184204Re-asking this question, but here's a diagram of the WIP build I'm making. Would I get any benefit from two-three more fans at the bottom?
>>109187461Very impressive binning if it's the CL26 6000 MT/s @ 1.35V.
>>109187492with that hardware no, but would it improve airflow? yes, you're supposed to populate all case fan slots
I'm build this pc for the next decade. Will be using it for gaming, and LLM usage. Do you guys think this is good? Problems in any part that you guys are aware?
>>109187510do you need a pc right now? I would wait for zen 6
>>109187492>$50 motherboard>$300 worth of fans in a ridiculous patternevery time with noctuafags
>>109187461wtf arent these $1000?post the zentimings on those bad boys
>>109187492You don't have to schizo over the fan setup if you followed the recommendations.You're unlikely to get even 2~3°C lower temps with additional fans.Do whatever sensible thing you want to do with the spare fan slots.
>>109187517I'm afraid that the prices will skyrocket If I wait any longer
>>109187533the computer is mostly fine, you could get a better case and a higher end thermalright cooler
>>109187510You shouldn't get a 4070 Ti Super @ 2026 unless it's a fairly priced used card in good condition.
>>109187546What alternative do you suggest?
>>109187519I told you it was a nightmare frankenstein build of old and new parts. Is it remotely the best value or most efficient? No. But because of the shit I was dealing with this is what made the most sense at the time.>>109187526I could fill that last slot right above the PSU with a 120mm, and the two at the bottom of the case with two 140mms, but I don't understand the difference between a PPA fan and a PPB fan. I still set it up in the correct orientation as instructed by the manual though.
>>109187543Are cases that important? I thought just fitting the cooler and the gpu would be fine
>>109187555airflow is very important for gpu temps
nvidia sisters, hopes for the future? for me personally i want to see AMD in ruins, which would leave only Nvidia gpus on the market that start at 5000+ msrp and we can finally completely lock out the poors from our hobby, leaving only us Nvidielites at the top
>>109187563Oh, it makes sense. Any recommendations for better cases then?
>>109187555DDR5 needs proper cooling and if you got a hotbox then those gpu temps will dump right into it and crash your system once it goes past 60-65c
>>109187569lian li 217 or any of its clones
>>109187549You're pretty much fucked if you want a 16GB RTX 5000 card in 2026.Check whether the LLM project supports the 9070 XT if you're looking for more affordable options.https://www.amd.com/en/blogs/2026/amd-software-adrenalin-edition-ai-bundle-ai-made-si.htmlGet the 5060 Ti (16GB) or the 5070 Ti if you must own a 16GB GeForce card.
>>109187572Cooling for RAM is basically fans on the case right?
>>109187568Indians exclusively use Nvidia, you'll never get rid of them.
>>109187581Thanks for the suggestions.My other options were the 5070 Ti and the 9070xt, but I was kinda reluctant on getting the 5070 Ti because of fake frame generation, and the 9070xt of not performing well on games compared to rtx cards (altough I plan on going to linux some time in the near future if windows 11 continues to be ass as it is right now).btw, I've seen a graph comparing the 5000 series when they launched, and it showed that 4000 series were actually better because of the chipset or something (I'm not savvy sorry), do you if it's true nowadays considering Ti editions?
>>109187583You may need a dedicated 120mm case fan pointing straight at the memory slots if you set a demanding manual overclock (tighter timings, faster speeds, & higher voltage compared to XMP/EXPO).
>>109187632I'm not thinking on overclocking any parts, bc I want this build to last as long as possible (a decade is just a goal). But thanks for the heads up!
>>109187622RTX 5000 GPUs are straight up better than their RTX 4000 tier equivalents.It should be between the 5070 Ti or the 9070 XT.I don't care which of the two you decide to get.
Windows Just Works If You're Not Retarded
>>109187662windows antimalware is consuming 50% of cpu it's nuthin personal
>>109187667Disable The Security But (You) Will Be Less SecureAlso Don't Forget To Leave Windows Media Player Open For 1ms Timer Resolution
>>109187677Operation not permitted. user is likely a virus.
>he bought the oled
>>109187656Thanks for the answer bro!
>>109187461Why do I find it so hard to be impressed with what is just a memory bin?
>>109187707Because you see it as "just memory" instead of being an interesting aspect of how a computer works
>>109187699yeah
>>109187574Aight, i'll check it out, thanks bro
>>109187699Of course I did, I love the colors.
>>109187729are you playing ps2 with your oled?
>>109187707they enable FGR/Mixed mode by default now and crank up the Trefi. This can be life changing to some people on AM5 who never experienced Intel latency.
>>109187726I just believe it's useless to the overall PC industry.I'd get excited if there was a new jedec standard but that kit is just a product of a single taiwanese company with little relation to the companies that researched and fabbed the actual memory.Is the release of this kit and what's learned from it ever going to influence new memory standards outside the DIY niche? I highly doubt it and it's why I'm meh
https://github.com/dylanraga/win11hdr-srgb-to-gamma2.2-icm That shit still, today, makes 4chan and generic browsing look better on hdr monitors on win11. But its not great for rtx hdr content or native hdr games and youd want to switch the profile off.why cant microsoft fix it already
>>109187784microsoft is getting desperate for money now that their AI investments are going nowhere, just like META, so their focus is 100% on how to steal your data without you noticing
Is there a significant downside if I'm not using re-bar on modern amd/nvidia gpus?I have a 2600 which doesnt really support it (at least on my motherboard, since later bios versions do not recommend using the cpu).
>>109187796yes, upgrade the cpu
I've been using the same PC since 2019. Any point in upgrading? I'm not a big gaymer.
>>109187841no
>>109187841Sure, an am5 x3d cpu would be better experience with a proper nvme ssd, gpu would matter if you did something with the pc besides browsing. but prices are high now so you picked a bad time to ask
>>109187861I really want to upgrade my HDD storage but holy shit fuck <current year> prices. I paid a third of what these things cost now.
>>109187874its worth it to get a cheap 1tb nvme, put OS and relevant games on it and have a better time
>>109187841ai :__)))
Thinking about getting a pc for gaming in my entertainment room. Don't really care about upgrading it in the future since I'm not a big triple A guy, but I would like it to run CP2077 well, so that's my target performance. Problem is, of course, that everything is super expensive these days, and Ideally i'd like to keep my budget to $800 or less. Should I just wait for prices to drop again? Is there a market for used components that might make this possible? Or should I just get over myself and either pony-up the money or give-up and buy a used ps4 instead?I'm an Amerifat btw.
>>109187279The industry got overrun by MBA's and retards that could not make it in Hollywood and thus inserted their shit writing into the gaming hobby.
>>109187936>>109187936>>109187936>>109187936
>>109187937With the release of steam machine there was a lot of people building budget pc's, but they're like 1200$ with a 9060 xt 16gb
>>109187937>but I would like it to run CP2077
>>109187960that is a bent pin, it happened because you lost the cover and something touched it.
>>109187960yes:(we could have had slots
>>109187960that's blurry as fuck but yeah
>>109186973And they do, and the recommended and minimum reqs for most big budget games take that info into account.
>>109181274test
>>109187193>forgets how modern engines render
>>109181533>gpu and peripheral cards facing up
