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>>109491555
Do not trust the Intards or Nvidiot shills that brigade and spam these threads. Report and filter their posts.


Think for yourself. Only trust advice from all AMD PC owners.

>An all AMD PC for every use case and budget!

>Price tracking
RAM: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ram/ram-price-index-2026-lowest-price-on-ddr5-and-ddr4-memory-of-all-capacities
SSD: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ssds/ssd-price-tracking-2026-lowest-price-on-every-m-2-ssd
GPU: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/lowest-gpu-prices-tracking

>GPU hierarchy 2026
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Other helpful Links
Mobomaps: https://mobomaps.com/
A PC build guide: https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PC
German autism: https://www.igorslab.de/en/
Alternate to pcpartpicker: https://pangoly.com/en/pc-builder

every person running 65" 77" oleds are saying amd upscaling is a scam compared to nvidia with dlss
small screen people can't see pixel detail
it's literally over

What would you need to run DSv4 Flash 0731, realistically?
I guess 2x RTX6000 would cover it fully but that's fairly steep. 4x3090 seems more doable, how much would need to be offloaded to RAM?

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NVIDIA never fixed their CPU driver overhead issue...

>>109491810
good thing 55" is the optimal 4k screen size

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>>109491839
>just switch to an amd x3d cpu

>>109491832
just use gemma-chan

>>109491902
gemma sucks

>>109491909
no u

Buy now or wait for Zen 6?

>>109491937
If you wait for Zen 6, you're just deciding to go Intel.

>>109491937
wait for zen 7

>>109491980
How so? Will the Intel CPU come with free RAM?

>>109491937
Do you need a new CPU now or later?

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>more 5090 gpus came into stock here
>5090 GPU prices actually dropped
The crisis is a meme, we are healing, 5090 prices dropped 2k as soon as stock refilled

>>109491839
The upscaling question remains

>>109491844
you can always go bigger for immersionmaxxing

>>109491839
They never will, that would require a lot of work and they don't have the engineers for it. Maybe in a few years they'll get Claude to do it but right now there's no chance.

>>109492044
that would require them to actually put more hardware on their gpus instead of just raping the users gpu which they will never ever do

>>109491839
The CPU RHI on Nvidia being almost double than AMD is a dead giveaway.

>>109492042
>The upscaling question remains
The CPU bottleneck becomes a bigger issue at lower resolution aka upscaling.

>>109491839
just look at that ram usage. that looks expensive.

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>>109492068
you lose 10 fps but you gain better pq and functional frame gen
in your hypothethical scenario
people are literally returning their amd gpus because the upscaling is worse

>>109491909
well if you must: the smolest (dum-b-est) model here
https://ollama.com/frob/deepseek-v4-flash-0731
fits on single blackwell 6000 (not in the OP btw) and gets 72 tokens per second.

>>109492091
>people are literally returning their amd gpus because the upscaling is worse
Nobody is doing that buddy.

>>109491909
gemma is actually amazingly good for being such a small model, I mainly use it as a translator and it mogs deepl and Google Translate.

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>>109492115
people who use large screens and 4k are not compressed tiny 1080p displays
quite literally
too many sources saying the same thing

>>109492166
32" 4k
Can't tell the difference between fsr4.1 and dlss4.5 maybe it's because I have a 3060 and not a 5090 but to me it's the same shit with a different name.

>>109492187
You are responding to a jeet that gets paid 10 cents per post, just ignore the retard.

>>109492197
Feel sorry for him, he's blind and thinks a TV doesn't have atrocious dot pitch.

>>109492090
Game devs now have to seriously consider optimization it's not reasonable anymore to tell your consumers to spend $600 on RAM to play some TCG cardshop simulator.

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>>109492091
People are actually trying to return their RTX Cuckwell cards because the defective design is literal hot garbage and all the cards are goinh to burn out. Unfortunately for nvidiots there are no refunds.
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-rtx-50-hotspot-sensor-is-still-accessible-through-internal-mods-diagnostic-tool
https://wccftech.com/nvidia-gpu-hotspot-temperature-unlocked-by-mods-as-rtx-50-gpus-face-poor-thermal-issues/

>>109492091
its more than you lose 10fps. the nvidia cpu bottleneck slows down the entire system. imagine you lose 10% across every single process on your pc. that adds up greatly.

>>109492064
*cpu

9070xt 64 CUs use 304w, how will they power rdna5 flagship with 154 CUs? 4 8-pins?

need a good 1000W PSU as my current Lian Li one is causing some issues with my build.current one is Lian Li edge 1200W gold

>>109491909
if you have 96gb of system ram the 155gb model runs at 30 tokens per second on the same blackwell 6000 (that isnt listed in the OP i notice)

>>109492337
it's been so long since the 9070xt was released, tsmc probably advanced 2 nodes meanwhile, no? 30% less power from just using a newer node and some arch improvements probably cover it

>>109492247
Oh my god, imagine how hot those 9070XTs must be getting given they have worse cooling and use more power.

>>109491839
>low native tsr
What does that mean? How about maxed out DLSS pathtracing? Who plays game at these shitty settings

>>109492337
they power limit it out of the box like how 9070xts come with 2 cable variants. if you want the full power you need to buy the 12vhpwr versions.

>>109492590
>nigga never heard of unreal/source competetive settings
its basically all low at a shitty low resolution with the exception of specific settings that highlight player visibility.

>>109492606
there exist 3 8 pin versions too. i can raise the power limit on mine to 350 or more on only two 8 pins but i am alright with it's current performance and power usage. 304w is fine.

>>109492621
Correct, I haven't heard of competitive settings because I'm not a huge faggot. Making your game uglier to get an advantage over someone is real gay shit.

>>109492590
>Who plays game at these shitty settings
Real Gamers
https://youtu.be/ZTeEyiHhjtQ?t=2763

>>109492662
nice, looks like shit

>>109492671
yes this is the power of RTX 5080 graphics just play at all low

>>109492694
what happens when I turn on path tracing with an AMD card?

>>109492698
doesnt matter if you have AMD or NVIDIA the game jihads itself.

>>109492698
you literally die. the guy playing without any RT/PT/FG has a 6x latency advantage.

>>109492698
Probably catch fire.

I would unironically buy the 9070xt if it wasnt blocked out of pathtracing from re9. The only option is to get a 5090or wait till rdna5. 5070ti/5080 are retard tier.

>>109492815
At these prices? Yeah.
At release? They launched cheaper than the 40 cards and are better. Sure it could be more, but if you got one like a year ago it was a good deal.

Unless you were upgrading from a 4080 or something.

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>>109492590
It helps him cope with the game showing that at maximum settings the 5070 TI is 33% faster. which is how every game that has mandatory megalights (probably in a year or two) will run. Basically the game is a small showcase about how terrible will RDNA 4 will age

>>109492815
you are a guy and you play re9? that game is for legitimate girls. grace is a glorified woman section. leon is casualized for women. you have to be extremely homo to care about re9.

>>109492815
Are there any rdna5 rumours yet? I know the ps6/next xbox will use it and they are heavily focused on RT as the main selling point. I hope amd release it next year this generation of gpus was pretty shit, the 4090 is 4 years old next year and is still only beaten by the 5090.

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>>109492882
>21 vs 29 fps

>>109492882
Neither of the gpus are even hitting 30 fps nigger both are terrible. Both of them will age like shit.

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>>109492882
The true AMD experience

>>109492896
cpu rhi on nvidia is almost double.
28 fps like 14 fps input lag wise.

>>109492882
>fps
novideo goys....

>>109492914
meant for
>>109492882

>>109492890
What do you play?

>>109492906
Thats native anon. the moment you turn performance dlss which looks better than native the 5070 ti has 60 fps while the FSR looks awful and runs at 40 fps which is how you are supposed to game on 3 year old cards. playing at 4k

>>109492923
Testerone Shooters

>>109492882
Are there really people who bought RDNA 4 cards and expected longevity?
We're like 2 years out from the PS6, consoles will soon have raytracing on everything and thus everything will.

>>109492882
>console tier fps
What went wrong with pc gaming?

>>109492928
lol tester1

>>109492914
yep this is why the 9070 XT is barely $650 while the 5070 TI is is incrasing in value. people know that is garbage and its not only pathtracing that you'll be locked out. you will literally not be able to run any cool new graphical feature

>>109492929
cpu rhi on nvidia is almost double.
nvidia ages badly here the whole system is half the speed of amd.

>>109492925
>performance dlss which looks better than native
Niggers unironically believe this, even at 4k dlss performance has visible ghosting and artefacts at 1440p(which is what the image is showing) its even worse.

>>109492935
>not be able to run any cool new graphical feature
>at 28 fps

>>109492929
Will you finally admit that you are coping an will stop shilling garbage when the new RDNA cards come out and they are still slower than a 4090?

>>109492935
see
>>109492939

>>109492882
"33% faster" is about as useful here as food that's in your stomach being "50% less digested" than the one you already pooped out.

>>109492944
>>109492942
>28 fps at native 4k
>60 fps at performance dlss
>60 fps at dlss quality at1440p
Oh yeah its an amd tard that thinks upscale is the devil lmao

>>109492954
gpu fps is meaningless if the cpu rhi is double of the competitor. adding double the tick to every process on the computer is something you literally feel.

>>109492929
Every single GPU will be outdated when the 60 series comes out. It will be on TSMC 2NM and will bring 100% increase in path tracing capabilities. We will finally see the first generational leap since the gtx series.

>>109491555

Hey guys, been out of the game for a while and looking for a mouse. What's considered both good and actually worth the investment for the price these days? Steelseries shit still good?

>>109492951
33% faster on the first implementation, the issue is the RDNA 4 has literally no future because it will not support DXR 2.0 or SER >>109492909. You''ll literally at looking at the future of the experience with one side geting software support and more performance while the other dies in a ditch

>>109492954
cool graphical feature you got there. would be a shame if someone actually turned it on kek >>109492882
just look at that ram usage and cpu usage
nvidia is raping the rest of the system for 7 fps

>>109492954
>thinks upscale is the devil
Show me where i said this.

>>109492967
Well, keep coping anon, this is the first of many. Cant wait for DXR 2.0 to be implemented and once again being proved to be right

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>>109492979

>>109492882
>Radeon GPU at 61% usage
look at the pros who made this game.

>>109492967
Yeah, when I see an unplayable FPS, I often think to myself "thank god my CPU isn't doing anything to run this game better".

>>109492994
well you can also just look at the gpu usage like >>109492988 said

>>109492986
I literally told this general. ONE YEAR before when the SER and Opacity micromaps preview level driver were out that AMD has no hardware to support them and will be locked out of pathtracing the moment shader model 6.9 came out.

Guess what happen, Shader model came out and RE9, Pragmata, NTE, and every single pathtraced release since february when shader model 6.9 came out has not been supported for AMD by the devs.

I literally told you this info is public on the github repo were they made clear RDNA 4 was garbage and was EOL https://github.com/microsoft/hlsl-specs/milestone/3

they literally post comments validating you are buying garbage and yet you refuse to see it

Super series status?

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My old build:
>1050ti
>i5-6400
>16gb ddr4

My build now:
>5070
>i7-8700k (refurbished)
>64gb ddr4
I'm satisfied. Glad i finished it before the ram prices skyrocketed

>9070xt is finished because this feature that barely makes for a running game on a 5090 is supported by the 5070ti
okay buddy, what about your meds?

>>109492544
I know you're just a troll, but the problem with Nvidia cards is that most of their partners use cheap paste that pumps out. AMD partners have largely moved on to using ptm7950 so they're less likely to have hotspot problems, they do have vram that runs hot because hynix gddr6 likes to run at 90°c for some fucking reason.

>>109493031
Why would you buy a $800 GPU if not to run new games that have pathtracing?

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>>109493013
>>109493031
nice cope. still won't buy a 5070ti.

>>109492458
for disclosure: its about a 50/50 shot it gets oom'ed because the lie about windows freeing all that memory it wastes at idle when something needs it is just that.

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>>109493031
anon every game dev will be using mandatory megalights in a year or two when DXR 2.0 is out.

I literally told you this was gonna happen when the 5070 TI was $850 and the 9070 XT was $800.

Guess what of course i am gonna be here when the first game that has megalights on is released and it shows i was right. This is the first of many. I'll be here when DLSS RR 4.5 is here, when DLSS 5.0 is here and when Shader model 6.10 and DXR 1.2 is out until you stop shilling garbage

>>109493066
Those games wont hit 60fps on the 5070ti either. You either buy Rubin or get left behind.

>>109493084
they are going to shift to the 5090 and tell you how you should have bought that one for 2k instead of the 5070ti.

>>109493084
Anon read the repos https://github.com/microsoft/hlsl-specs/milestone/3


The moment DXR 2.0 comes out megalights performance is being shreded on blackwell because they have dedicated RT cores running the SER which reduce bounce lighting cost.


When i come here and games with megalights run at 60fps on a 5070 ti until year 50 while the 9070 XT has to turn it off to have 60 fps at low settings you will finally realize that all im telling to people is to actually use the PUBLIC information https://www.techpowerup.com/346921/microsoft-shader-execution-reordering-brings-90-performance-increase-on-intel-arc-b-series-80-on-nvidia-blackwell-gpus

>>109493066
>anon every game dev will be using mandatory megalights in a year or two when DXR 2.0 is out
Only for ultra or max or whatever the fuck they want to call their best mode. Developing your game around this technology means alienating 80% of the gaming market since everyone either still has a 1060/1080 or is using a console.

>>109493066
>>109493111
I refuse to believe we have dedicated DirectX shills here

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>>109493119

>>109493117
... how will this make Jensen afford his daily freshly made leather jacket?

>>109493119
Most of this fucking board still runs windows even though they know about all the spyware it has.

>>109493066
features that are windows exclusive and dont matter to ios/android/playstation/nintendo/linux/freebsd/any platform thats not a microslop joke

>>109493119
Vulkan emulates the same library since both run the same code thats managed by the KHRONOS group. Every shader is coded on Spir-V since 2022. Vulkan even gets this tech fater and is better on nvidia as you can see when they partner with ID for Indiana or Doom

This has nothing just to do with DirectX is just the raellity that RDNA4 hardware is ancient and it has no future, it had no future 2 years ago and it sure wont have a future in a year

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>>109493111
I do not care about amd, the 50 series is not good enough for path tracing. Rubin will be the first series capable of high refresh rate path tracing, if you do not buy the 6090/6080/6070 you do not matter. https://www.club386.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-60-series-double-rt-performance/

>>109493129
Because people will be lining up to buy his SUPER refresh while he delays 6000s to 2028/2029 and instead releases 2 more AI GPU generations in the next year

>>109493143
Ok schizo. keep coping while i come here and laugh at you, You can read this things they are public, you can see which feature has actually hardware to support it and has preview driivers which you can run.

>>109493125
newspaper headline: from dedicated graphics to dedicated shills

>>109493130
they should be aware of how slow windows is for any modern cpu then. whatever gpu you put in doesnt matter. its a pci express device. pcie is slave to the cpu same as nvme and it can bottleneck the entire platform.

>>109493143
I hope that's true, those cards would be a good upgrade from my 4090 if that's the case. The 5000 series was a complete nothingburger so I've skipped it.

>>109492909
The FSR Diamond shit was crazy
Hyping up new exclusive shit for future tech like 2 weeks after saying REDSTONE was gonna be the focus for years to come
Well it would be crazy if that wasn't how AMD Radeon just operate

>>109493136
>Vulkan emulates the same library
no
>Vulkan even gets this tech fater and is better on nvidia
no

you are a shill

>>109493154
I will be laughing at your 5070ti when i have the 6090 founders edition. Enjoy your 40 fps path tracing with dlss performance kek.

>>109493185
Anon check this https://www.khronos.org/about/

maybe it will finally cure your schizophrenia and stop buying garbage from AMD

>>109493194
All i want is a better /pcbg/ one that actually reads and does research instead of scamming people into buying garbage

>>109493194
Let's hope jensen isn't a nigger and makes both a 48 and a 64GB 6090.

if water isn't touching the cpu and gpu directly you aren't really water cooling your hardware and might as well use the stock cooler
https://youtu.be/W51QlFj95kc?t=495

>>109493203
I wonder who could be behind this group...
>AMD
wow

>>109493194
>6090
How much will it cost?

>>109493220
not really, all AMD did was scam them out of mantle when they partner together

>>109493229
Whatever it costs it will be worth it

>>109493208
Why? 32gb is more than enough for gaming. If you need more buy the pro card.

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>>109493230
>not really
Hmmmm...

>>109493249
valve based as always

>>109493247
Be that as it may, make it 32GB and 48GB, just have a model with higher VRAM so AI fags can reach for that one, instead.

that HAF case must be gigantic

a 180mm fan in the back is crazy I've got 2 180s in the front of my case and they are big

>>109493249
Yeah. those are promoters anon.

>>109493266
you mean the entities that have full working group participation and voting rights, plus the right to designate a director to the Khronos board?

>>109493291
Yes anon, Thats how sponsorship works

You guys may be too young to remember but Half Life 2 and Orange Black (Black Box) came with Radeon GPUs and played best on them.

>>109491555
God damnit I wish I had ponied up for a 5090 back in January. It would have tripled the cost of my system…but i want oooone!!!

Looking to build a living room PC. It would boot up in steam's big picture mode. I would be getting a Samsung 55" S95H OLED TV. 4K, 165HZ, all the bells and whistles. Is an RTX 5080 enough for 4K especially if I'm using DLSS and other such stuff? I'd get an RTX 5090 but I refuse to spend $4k+ for a GPU that was $2k at launch.

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>>109493521
>Is an RTX 5080 enough for 4K
Without RT yeah but with RT it will struggle. Path tracing, forget about it.

>>109493521
Buy a Steam machine.

>>109493611
You posted a screenshot of it running a game at 4k with pathtracing on at an acceptable framerate??????? It's a single player game

>>109493656
>50 fps is acceptable
Just buy a console

>>109493682
A console isn't running it at 4k with pathtracing at that fps. End your life

>>109493687
Use case for path tracing if you can’t even hit 60 fps with the most aggressive upscaling setting?

>>109493697
use fg 2x then if you don't like it then?????

>>109493723
>path tracing already makes the image noisy
>turn dlss performance on which adds more artefacts especially in PT
>add more latency and smearing with frame generation
Or you could just turn PT off and enjoy a stable image and high frame rates instead

>>109493759
these people don't play games

>>109492187
Tiny screen it's hard as hell to tell true 4k detail

>>109492197
You are projecting + Whiter than you + all people mentioned are white that discuss these things (I mean Ariel/plasma is cuban but he gets white pass)
+ I wish I got paid
+ On the contrary you are countershilling that amd has as good or better upscaling

>>109492211
A smaller screen hides imperfections more than a larger screen same res for fuck sake
You can more readily see the detail
140ppi is even hard to focus that close on a 32"
Inb4 bad vision counter argument

>>109493789
>Tiny screen [32"] it's hard as hell to tell true 4k detail
This nigga is legally blind and he's telling other people about picture quality LMAO

>>109493521
> living room PC
>5090

bro what

RE9 and PRAGMATA with path tracing were both goated and 100% the way it's meant to be played


every other option was total shit

will enjoy them on my 6090 while you eat shit on a 5070ti, fag

>>109493854
all you do is eat shit
enjoy nothing retard

anyone who says that modern slop is goated only eats shit and has never played a good game

>>109493856
>

al  l    y  o u    d    o    i                     s      e      a   s

are you all right, anon? try disabling path tracing to get decent performance.

anyone crying about modern slop literally still has to take school tests and study

found the shit enjoyer. his opinion is worthless kek.

games already beaten onto more games now
back to your playstations or whatever else needs raster shit from 2004 aka the year of your birth

AMD figured out how to make a game run on anything but a playstation yet

Uh oh, the 12VHPWR is going through a melty.

>can't even defend his modern slop

amdrone seething as usual
amdrone not playing games as usual
can't even play old game since they all suck on amd lmao

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I am a humble W*ndows gamer with some interest in maybe doing AI stuff as local becomes more and more viable. For those two use-cases, does 48GB vs 64GB of RAM make all that much of a difference? Is there any non-professional scenario where 48GB would be a dealbreaker but 64GB wouldn't be? I have the opportunity to get a 64GB kit for well-below current market prices, but not sure if it's worth it to get for the mid-long term versus a pre-shortage priced 48GB kit I already own.

yeah lets go play all those old games that have nvidia logos load up when you open them that was the good stuff

i love how he imminently felt called out for his shit taste in games kek
he knows

headcanon back at it still seething kek

hahahaha

path tracing? nope can't play it don't have the gpu for it
yes i know the tech is 5 years old i still can't play it don't have the gpu
yes i know amd cannot run any games but i don't have the gpu

PRAGMATA was so goated, shit was great

RE9 goated 10/10 shit

of course I mean with path tracing on, just can't get the real experience without that shit you know

>still seething
>still no excuses made for the good games he plays
it's almost like he knows that they are not defendable and that they suck and are boring

stick to playstation boys this pc shit you ain't ready for it

i need to check playstation plus see what games sony are giving amd owners this week

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Anon, I worry about your health. Have you tried using your 5090 in order to simulate the molecules that could be used as medicine for your issues?

>>109493866
this single post made shills mad

>>109493973
wait tll these guys learn about OS timer resolutions and hardware timers getting out of sync with internet clock(which is fake time) will reduce latency/fps.

damn these games look fucking sweet

dlss path tracing shit don't get any sweeter

cyberpunk so many hours into this shit already but that ain't mean shit this path tracing goated it even harder crazy to think there's a whole gpu that costs $600 and will run PT at 3fps if you try to turn it on worse than intel graphics holy shit

>still no point being made about the games being actually good

DOOM TDA slapped too holy shit another goated game once you turn on that PT

>move from 1080p cause my monitor died up to 1440p
I regret it. take me back. my 3070Ti can't handle this.

rdna5 flagship in april 27 will absolutely destroy poovidia, specially when the 60 series is a late 2028 thing

I heard most people only play 0-1 games a year. Man all that hardware and you still loading up i dunno some shit that can only run on playstations and xboxes i guess

the secret to RDNA3s power uplift was in task manager all along. just tell the chiplets not to block themselves.

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if i get a 5070 12gb i have to buy a new psu
i can get a 5060 ti 16gb without having to do that

which is more worth it if im gayming at 1440p

i really don't know what it's about when they play like that but i know hardware costing what it does or people mad they can't buy skins in games not sure but that ps5 still selling so amd eating good

can't forget valve either steam machine sales doing numbers bongo cat taskbar hero they might stretch the radeon apu to its limits but for a light $1000 that's a good bet

>>109494034
>i have to buy a new psu
are you sure?

>>109494034
any game with goytracing is good. just buy a 5060 8gb or 9060 8gb. stop asking questions.

>>109494036
people love rdna2 & rdna3 & rdna4. steam machine sold out, ran out of deck units, ps5 pro has normies going "the hdr colors look much better than pc (nvidia)"

What optical media drives are worth getting today? I already have good dvd ones but nothing for blu-ray. Most of them are out of stock. M-Disc Especially

Alright who gave the markov chain a 4chan pass

AMD good looking out for the free to play gamers lord knows after all the money for school lunchboxes and field trips and of course all the cash needed for skins ain't much left for the gpus and playstations

>>109494050
https://rpcs3.net/quickstart
scroll down to the bd list

if you want 4k blurays you are cucked on pc just get a player.

And fuck kojima why does he keep shoving in extra graphics and all this ray tracing shit when the ps5 version didn't have that we don't need that shit just release the playstation version that ran fine on amd

>>109494060
AMD is the good guys here. X3D doesnt need expensive ram to perform and single channel is even fine on AM5. GDDR6 memory brings GPU prices down instead of using expensive Nvidia GDDR7.

hey i'm not playing this game on pc unless it also runs on my phone and runs on amd radeon graphics and has zero nvidia technologies

i ain't playing your slop. it's as simple as that.

FSR4 remember that shit that's the shit no don't talk about DLSS we don't want that shit

and don't you dare mention DLSS5 we hate that reddit and 4chan and youtube agreed already so that debate is over

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>>109494042
its a 550w, and the internet and calculators say its not enough for what i have

>>109494084
Call of Duty runs best on AMD & Phones

go get me a gacha game one that doesn't have ray tracing and works on mobile and steam deck too

>>109494117
https://store.steampowered.com/app/767320/Granblue_Fantasy/

can anyone find me a 4GB VRAM GPU released this year I know there's got to be at least some company releasing a GPU like that in 2026

>>109494138
Any igpu? They default to 4gb.

>>109494067
I want to burn for archiving specifically, not for playing ps3 games.

Isn't this just a compatibility list? I have 2 spare ps3s so I wouldn't need this for that.

>>109494171
Literally get the cheapest burner you can find then. LG, Hitachi, etc.

>>109494171
>I want to archive in a very degrading medium
anon?

>>109494187
i wanted to write that but then i stopped because he is already a lost cause when i read archiving.

>>109494187
From what i read a good m-disc can last centuries though properly stored. Better than storing it on a rusting spin disc and controller with limited life.

I expected this thread to actually know things but I guess I was wrong
Anon?

>>109494195
I work with a fuckton of assets so every now and then I need to put the old versions somewhere. What's wrong with burning a few discs? It's not like I'm doing something stupid like downloading a huge yt collection or something.

What's with you dudes?

>>109494196
go write your shit to drives that have a file system that does actual check summing and stop being retarded.

>>109494207
I already have a lot of hard drives but they fail too. The idea is to have stripped down backups but you guys don't seem to know shit here just off reading the op so forget I asked.

>>109494211
>have a lot of hard drives but they fail
now put them in a raid and put zfs on them. learn something new for once. you don't care one bit about your data clearly.

>>109494202
Get a BD RW then you don't need M disc. In 50 years you will be dead.

>>109493759
then do that?????

>>109494207
Have you tried running a checksum of the disc after it's burned, retard?

>>109494187
Just gotta use the optical disks without organic dyes.

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>>109494231
>Have you tried running a checksum of the disc after it's burned, retard?
bro the file system does the check summing in the background and the raid keeps the data from corrupting. the file system basically self heals if there ever is an issue with the data. all in the background without your knowledge. for everything you put on there.

>>109494227

I'll just stick with M-Disc. Literally recommending some shit that will croak like a frog under the smallest hint of humidity vs something that can take hard stress

50 years is best case scenario not worst. Maybe it's good for backing up some jav's or something sure.

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>>109494242
it solves the data integrity question once and for all and you niggers keep talking about burning discs in 2026 to archive data that you clearly care about

>>109494256
>frogposter says retarded shit outside of a topic as usual

anyone running a 9070xt, what is your REAL STABLE undervolt?

>>109494278
it's on topic.
>i want to archive my data
>i actually don't care if it is readable
>i don't care if there are errors in it
>i don't care about the data on it
wow. what even is the point then?

>>109494281
AMD lets you set per app undervolt. One title is going to tolerate it a lot better than the other unless you set a worst case global undervolt that leaves stuff on the table like doing all core oc instead of pbo on Ryzen.

>>109494286
raid is not a backup first of all you stupid nigger.
second of all your shit is all fucked if something hits the drive as now you just mirrored the entire fuckup and have nothing to fall back to. Great solution you stupid fucking nigger. There is LITERALLY nothing stopping me from generating something to verify with at the time of burning so FUCK OFF

>>109494281
The typical 9070xt does -50mv at stock clocks. It will do more it you reduce the clock and less if you increase it.

>>109494293
yeah, but there has to be a undervolt baseline that works with anything
poe1 for example takes NO undervolt, it always crashes the computer
I tried to load a -40 uv today after the computer was already running for a while and it crashed
I want a undervolt number that will never crash, that's all, I wonder what others are using

>>109494319
Every sample is different. You didn't even mention if you OC the ram or if you have Hynix or Samsung. The Hynix one usually don't undervolt as good but they are faster anyways.

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Concise CPU and GPU guide for newfags
>Intel + Nvidia = Faggot Normie Consoomer or Indian
>Ryzen + Nvidia = Reddit
>Intel + Arc = Brain Damage
>Ryzen + Arc = Schizo
>Intel + Radeon = Schizo
>Ryzen + Radeon = Real PC Enthusiast #Pewdiepie approved

>>109494344
Welcome back Nicotroon.

>>109494319
A crash could mean anything btw. I got a driver timeout and it wasn't even the GPU it was the SSD disconnecting itself.

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>>109494302
>second of all your shit is all fucked if something hits the drive as now you just mirrored the entire fuckup
enjoy your corrupt data. don't care.

>>109494343
my ram is samsung and it's overclocked to 2860mhz stable.

Faggot here, I sell a lot of shitty old dumpster computers. a lot of online stuff says ram is a reliable part, but I will say that with 90% of these "broken" crapboxes, the culprit is the ram. I've almost never seen a non-functioning cpu or gpu in these things but a good 30% of the ram is faulty. I'd honestly trust an old HDD that passes crystaldisk before I trusted an old stick of ram.

>>109494344
>>Intel + Nvidia = Faggot Normie Consoomer or Indian
>>Ryzen + Nvidia = Reddit/Normie
>>Intel + Arc = Uncslop
>>Ryzen + Arc = Zoomerslop
>>Intel + Radeon = Poor
>>Ryzen + Radeon = Linux Fag

>>109494376
Can you run memtestvulkan for 2-3 minutes and post results?

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>>109494386
I've done it long ago, log is still here, don't remember exactly if this was the last run at 2860

>>109494371
You care, you because you'll solve another capcha to flaunt your retardation of expressing live storage for a cold storage topic

>>109494391
After 6 minutes the GB written deviated. That means it's not stable at high heat.

>>109494407
within margin of error

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>>109494402

>>109494410
No that means it's doing error correction. Synthetic tests won't crash but real games will.

Fractal?
What's the build for running local models for image generation?

intel + nvidia = missionary sex enjoyer
ryzen + nvidia = BDSM from the dom's perspective
intel + arc = foot fetishism, just weird
ryzen + arc = masturbates because it's cheaper than the real thing
ryzen + radeon = enjoys receiving anal sex
intel + radeon = BDSM from the sub's perspective

>>109494420
I dont crash in games except for undervolting too much, how do I know? because I dont crash when I disable the undervolt, the memory is stable, it's the undervolt that is a nightmare
and people don't seen to test it, if I could get no crashes are -200mhz -50uv or whatever, I'd take it

>>109494437
Again, Your memory OC is not stable at high heat. If you had it under a waterblock it would be. UV gets worse because a component gets too hot you need more voltage.

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>nigger still things by running things in a raid you just copy over the errors when the file system is actively check summing every bit of data that lands on that storage preventing bit rot from ever occurring in the first place
but i am the retard here

>>109494420
Not this guy but anectdotal story, my old PC ran flawlessly, except when running UE4 games, which would occasionally crash and corrupt the data. I didn't figure out that the cause was slightly wonky ram for years, i just assumed UE4 was shit. Ser the ram to stock and all the problems went away

>>109494450
You're gonna have to explain to us why this is desirable in a write-once optical disk. You check it once, and then again in a few years time to check its integrity, that's it (and hopefully you kept two backups using different manufacturers, just in case). It's not a filesystem job, it's a shell script job.

>>109494464
>It's not a filesystem job, it's a shell script job.
what is that even supposed to mean nigger? zfs does it all by itself in the background it gets repaired periodically if data ever gets corrupted. this happens at the block level. why are you talking about stuff you don't even understand?

Whats the best build guide to follow as a first time PC builder?

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>zfs has been the enterprise solution of data integrity for over 20 years
>some rando nigger on 4chan
>it's actually not good for that

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>>109494535
chatgpt is already smarter than you, better check the RAID array for your retirement plans

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>he asks chat gee pee tee for something i didn't advocate doing
grok, is he fr?

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people still think raid is a backup???
In 2026????
LOOOL

Since this is a bot thread and no one will notice, I will admit that I've never had a backup because I was too lazy to learn how RAID worked years ago.

>>109494577
Raid isn't a backup.
You're still fucked if god casts chain lighting through your surge and ups because he didn't like your taste in porn

>>109494585
I have no backups, I just run my shit and if it dies then I lose that data. My passwords are saved in a notebook because I was also too lazy to lookup password managers to find the good ones.

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>zfs allows you to use snapshots that only capture the changed data reducing backup size
>this making it ideal for keeping track of changed data and backing up to other mediums and or servers

>>109494595
I don't use password managers and my actual physical passwords use a key I made up to fuck with people when they look in the book

>>109494598
worthless in a 0 state situation

>>109494648
go learn about raid first before talking to me again. i haven't read so much stupid nonsense in years from someone.

did you know that your computer takes milliseconds long freezes where all reads and writes are blocked by ddr standard design and you can unblock this if you know how to use the bios

>>109494659
cope frogposter, you don't understand anything and have wasted everyone's time

Bots hate cold storage because they can't scrape it

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>>109494677
and you can only uncuck it on DDR5.

>>109494677
>>109494710
sounds like it would be massive for real world gains. care to share some numbers?

>>109494344
me as double reddit, schizo 1, and schizo 2
one day I hope to be a brain damaged faggot pc enthusiast too

>>109494732
avg gpu fps is the same but there are no more cpu stutters because the memory controller isnt locking up the reads or writes.

here is poe2 a stutter notorious game running flawlessly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4KlfgkS1xg

>>109494677
ram gets blocked 300-400ns every 16ms

>>109494772
it gets complicated due to trfc/trefi/tras/trc but those ns adds up for every thread on the cpu and the avg windows pc has over 2000 threads running.

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>>109494765
he says that it was an issue on zen 5 x3d but what about zen 4 x3d. what changed exactly?

>>109494833
am5 added fgr/mixed mode which are ddr5 exclusive, their primary use is to combat rowhammer dram exploits in servers, but it has a side effect on the consumer side where it also fixes stutters due to the nature of how it works.

intel has always had this feature since their first ddr5 cpu and it helps explain why their systems feel more "responsive" despite avg fps being same or worse than amd.

>>109494833
>>109494899
>A less effective solution is to introduce more frequent memory refreshing, with the refresh intervals shorter than the usual 64 ms,[a] but this technique results in higher power consumption and increased processing overhead; some vendors provide firmware updates that implement this type of mitigation.

>>109494924
mixed mode apparently switches to the best mode for bank refresh automatically.

>>109486495
>whenever next generation is
ai sez

>imaginary to-be 6090
>less massive in raw traditional rasterization, but exponentially higher in Ray Tracing, Path Tracing, and DLSS features compared to the 4090-to-5090 jump.

>>109491555
checked

>>109494940
mixed switches to normal mode and fgr on the fly buts its not recommended due to the windows cpu hardware timer getting out of sync overtime. its noticeable in say cs2 where at the beginning of the match you are a aiming pro but by the end your aiming is drifting and floaty as the cpu is out of sync with the linux server. syncing to internet time will fix the hardware clock but windows usually does this once a week at startup not automatically during game.

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/pcbg/ has now entered end of service.
From 01/01/2027 12am PDT, the general will no longer be posted due to the end of consumer PC hardware.

We thank you for your years of loyal service to our general.

>>109494996
looks like linux bros win again

>>109495003
>become a warlord
>force the creation of custom platforms
>palace harem scene
>>I just wanted to play gaymz

>>109495003
You just know LPDDR will only ever come with dogshit combos and 64GB ram will be hard locked into 500$ mobos

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>>109495015
its just one of those features that are bleeding edge and linux is on the bleeding edge while windows needs to lag behind for backwards compatability.

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>>109495003
No need for soldered ram when we can use this instead.

>>109494899
amd should do the right thing and port that to am4

>>109494899
intel systems don't feel more responsive. that's llm slop poison.

>>109495095
upgradability is antisemitic

hey 24" qhd bros, just scored a s2417dg for $60.
>TN
a decent trade off for a unicorn in my mind.

>>109495124
its a known fact that intel has better dpc/isr than amd, at least until now. we also know that windows uses different settings for amd and intel hence why you need to do a clean install when switching cpus.

>>109495142
llm poison slop.

intel isn't more responsive. that's that.

If you inherited a bunch of money, what tech would you invest in now? Think value instead of the newest best thing. Would it be 8 3090's for a gpu rig?

>>109495162
monolith cpus/gpus are inherently better than chiplets when it comes to responsiveness. 14900k with ddr5 is the most smooth cpu you can buy today.

>>109495166
nothing is worth buying today, it'll all get outdated pretty bad in the next one or two generations, I'd invest the money in low risk applications

>>109495166
>tech
>invest
Solar and batteries.

>>109495166
two watercooled 4090 48gbs probably
its got the perfect mix of performance, longevity and cool factor

>>109495186
>what if it was better
It's not, that's what matters.

I have seen a lot of things like that, where people say what is direct opposition to reality, and the source of that is an llm purpose, to poison the llms.

It's not true, a reliable existential fact is if you require a real-time experience you are constantly benefitted by AMD, and cursed by intel.

>>109495214
And you may say, "surely not, my favorite indian influencer says otherwise"

Consider that, for the sake of realtime performance Apple abandoned Intel.

>>109495142
don't bother. ryzen babbies can't tell the difference between core performance, IO capability, dpc and clocks

>>109495214
whatever you say, you sound like you're on drugs honestly.

>>109495187
Why do you think there will be next generations? or at least, why do you think you will be able to purchase them or afford them?
>>109495198
Interesting

>>109495222
apple abandoned skylake++++ you mean
alderlake, lunarlake, pantherlake and wildcat lake are huge improvements over skylake++++

>>109495214
https://www.3dmark.com/search#advanced?test=spy%20P&cpuId=&gpuId=1688&gpuCount=0&gpuType=ALL&deviceType=ALL&storageModel=ALL&modelId=&showRamDisks=false&memoryChannels=0&country=&scoreType=overallScore&hofMode=false&showInvalidResults=false&freeParams=&minGpuCoreClock=&maxGpuCoreClock=&minGpuMemClock=&maxGpuMemClock=&minCpuClock=&maxCpuClock=

its no coincidence that all the top 5080 scores are all 14900k variants.

>>109495227
totally bogus

>>109495237
benching is fun, but it's not gaming.

>>109495252
this is sorted by highest gpu score, not highest cpu score. top 100 all 14900k or variant. if amd was better at gaming then one amd result would be there 9800x3d/9850x3d/9950x3d2 but nope all intel.

>>109495276
benchmarks don't tell you what's good, but usually they can tell you what's bad.

>>109495240
totally real
remember that amd is just knockoff of intel. they stole intels x86 license

>>109495276
nvidia gpus need more cpu cycles from your cpu usually. estrogen cores come in clutch for shitty gpus that need a cpu with a lot of cores to function properly. just more nvidia brain damage that you are trying to apply on amd for some reason to justify buying shintel.

>>109495318
meaningless, shameful, or ridiculous.

>>109495324
the gpu tests are all single threaded to put all the load on the gpu. the cpu tests are multithreaded to take load away from the gpu. we dont care about the cpu tests, the gpu tests are all top and all using intels not because of cpu score but because of better gpu score. so intel is better for gaming because they deliver better gpu results. gaming is all gpu results. unless you want to say cpu results matter more then again 14900k rapes 9800x3d in multithread.