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>>109495783
>linux build general
based but "winget install mozilla.firefox"

insane radeontard melty

Friendly reminder that:
1. there is no valid reason to buy any nvidia card that's not more expensive than an rx 9070xt
2. there is no valid gaming cpu made in the modern era by intel

>>109495829
>>109495819

>>109495829
That doesn't sound friendly at all

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>>109495829

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imagine buying amd

>>109495864
14900ks & ddr5 the most smooth platform money can buy

>>109495876
he codes in rust bros

>>109495876
i vibe with that gpt bro

>>109495876
maybe in an oxygen free environment

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I love chiplets

wow

it's much worse than I thought.

>Degradation: Some users report permanent performance drops or degradation in 13th/14th gen Intel chips, which can manifest as persistent stuttering or low performance even after troubleshooting.

Thank you india for forcing me to learn more about how bad intel is right now.

>>109495916
Keep this in mind, entire functions were depreciated for worse ones because they were fucking up on these chips and they couldn't figure out why

>>109495924
I saw that happening in my dream too

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>>109495916
minor performance loss vs exploding x3d emoji

>>109495916
>now
Was. That was two and three gens ago, and that has since been resolved.

>>109495936
Why is there an emoji in your filename. Don't do that.

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well this solves this question. time to transition intel trannies. the ai said it is possible after all.

>>109495949
>socially, legally and psychologically
but not physically

>>109495916
>now
You think 14th is now?

>>109495954
it's mam sir

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jesus these path tracing graphics are so damn good *NVIDIA BLACK SCREEN JUMPSCARE*

>>109495938
>The Intel Core Ultra 9 285K is physically completely okay and safe, but it does suffer from a notable performance regression in gaming compared to the older Core i9-14900K.

idk man, it's wild. intel is a cult, when it comes to gaming anyway, why would anyone do that?

>>109496021
>Yes, the Intel Core Ultra 9 285K does experience more issues with frame consistency and occasional stuttering (measured in benchmarks as "1% lows") when compared to AMD's cache-heavy X3D processors, such as the Ryzen 7 9850X3D and 9800X3D.
>While the 285K is a powerful CPU for multitasking and productivity, its gaming performance is hindered by its architectural design, making AMD's X3D lineup the clearer choice for perfectly smooth gameplay.
>The Core Ultra 9 285K (built on Intel's Arrow Lake architecture) shifted to a tile-based (chiplet) design. While this approach is highly efficient for manufacturing and scaling, it introduces a significant hurdle for gaming: latency.
>Higher Latency: The 285K has to communicate across different tiles on the processor, which inherently adds latency. Furthermore, structural changes to the memory controller have resulted in higher overall memory latency compared to previous generations of Intel CPUs.
>Smaller Cache: With a relatively small 36MB of L3 cache, the 285K frequently has to fetch data from the slower system RAM. This delay is the primary cause of micro-stutters and sudden frame drops during graphically intense or fast-paced moments.
damn

>>109496035
>Both companies use a "modular" chiplet approach, but their design philosophies solve different problems.
>AMD engineered its chiplets to keep gaming-critical data as close to the processor cores as physically possible, while Intel's current design forces data to travel across multiple boundaries.
>Here is exactly how AMD overcomes the latency penalty that currently plagues Intel's Arrow Lake.
>AMD's CPUs are broken into smaller chiplets, but they don't break up the compute cores themselves. AMD groups 8 CPU cores together onto a single piece of silicon called a Core Complex Die (CCD).
>Because all 8 cores live on the same physical chiplet, they can communicate with each other and share their local L3 cache instantly, with virtually zero latency. For most games, which rarely need more than 8 cores, the entire workload can run on this single, hyper-fast CCD without ever needing to cross over to another chiplet.
>The real secret weapon is how AMD adds memory. Instead of forcing the CPU to fetch data from the motherboard's RAM—a very "long" and slow trip in computing terms—AMD uses 3D V-Cache.
>They literally stack a massive slab of L3 cache vertically, directly on top of the CCD, fusing it at a microscopic level. Because this cache is physically touching the compute cores, the CPU can access an enormous amount of game data instantaneously. It rarely has to ask the system RAM for help, completely bypassing the latency bottlenecks of the chiplet interconnects.
why would anyone buy intel? are they stupid?

>>109496035
>>109496051
>google llm slop
Can you not at least click the source links

>>109496051
I guess for spreadsheets and stuff. I think they compile faster or something.

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>>109496055

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your ryzen cpu when it has to context switch between ccxs

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>>109496035
>>109496051
I tried to lead it the other way, it refused.

benchmarking is a mental illness

For people who bought nvidia gpu at a premium did you ever go
>I dont actually like nvidia features that much, I wish I saved 15-20% of the gpu price by buying amd instead 3-5 years ago
>I could've used that 150 moneys much better and be better off in my life

>>109496063
Sounds like kaballah of the cpu to me.

M-Disc

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>>109496063
that is just intels natural state
>>109496065
kek
>>109496068
i blame chubb... i mean frame chaser

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>>109496084
>dat gemini mark

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>>109496080

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nigga laments 150 as if it was his monthly wage. Oh wait, it is.

>>109496087
It's the future. The future is remote access only

>>109496102
:^)

*distills your cloud model*

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>>109495965
>t.

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>>109496126
literally me fr fr

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>Mfw I bought amd

>>109496161
spam

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>Mfw I bought 5070ti

>>109495864
nice klarna pc

>Many users running into persistent crashes or micro-stutters find that features meant to help—like Intel's 200S Boost or aggressive XMP profiles—are actually the root cause. Turning these factory-sanctioned overclocking features off is often the only way to stop games from freezing or stuttering, which defeats the purpose of buying a high-end flagship chip.
>Kernel-level anti-cheat software (such as Easy Anti-Cheat) has historically clashed with Intel's split tile and hybrid P/E core layout. Users frequently report having to download third-party software like Process Lasso just to manually force games onto Performance cores and shove background apps onto Efficient cores, otherwise, they experience random hitching and stutter bursts.
>Because Arrow Lake’s integrated memory controller is so sensitive, even minor hardware variances (the "silicon lottery") mean that running fast DDR5 memory can push the inter-tile communication fabric over the edge. What works on paper often crashes in practice unless the user spends hours manually tweaking voltages and secondary timings.
>When a system requires you to disable core features, manually manage core affinities, and dig deep into BIOS sub-menus just to play games smoothly, it stops feeling like a modern, high-end PC and starts feeling like a second job. For a pure gaming setup, avoiding those headaches entirely is usually the path of least resistance.

>Seamless Frame Pacing: By placing massive amounts of cache directly on the CPU die, AMD bypasses the memory bottlenecks that cause micro-stutters on competing architectures.
>Plug-and-Play Reliability: The AM5 platform offers a mature, stable ecosystem that avoids the complex BIOS tuning, thread scheduling quirks, and gear-mode headaches currently associated with Intel's tile-based setup.
>Superior Efficiency: X3D chips deliver top-tier frame rates while consuming significantly less power and running cooler under gaming loads.
>For anyone prioritizing gaming performance, frame pacing, and out-of-the-box stability, AMD’s X3D processors are indeed the definitive choice.
>Choosing an X3D processor means skipping the constant troubleshooting and getting a smooth, high-performance gaming experience right from the start.

shut the fuck up retard

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>>109496194
>>109496215

>why do some intel users tell me to shut up when i mention those problems to them?
>It is frustrating when you are just trying to discuss real, documented technical flaws and you run into a wall of hostility. PC hardware communities online can get intensely tribal, and when you touch on a weak spot, defenses go up instantly.
>Several psychological and community dynamics explain why some Intel users react so defensively:
>High-end flagship CPUs like the Core Ultra 9 285K cost a lot of money, not to mention the cost of the Z890 motherboard and fast DDR5 memory. When someone drops over a thousand dollars on a platform, admitting it has architectural flaws or stuttering issues feels personal. For them, accepting that X3D is better for gaming feels like admitting they made an expensive mistake, so they default to denial or aggression.
>For decades, the PC hardware space has operated like sports fandoms. People tie their personal identities to team "Blue" (Intel) or team "Red" (AMD). Pointing out a legitimate engineering failure in an Intel product isn't viewed by a die-hard fan as objective criticism—it's viewed as an "attack" on their team that needs to be aggressively shouted down.

>>109496233
I think it's mostly that intel has offices in israel.

>>109496240
>Knowing that Intel’s design centers in Haifa and Petah Tikva are the foundational brain trust for its core architectures. In this view, criticism of Arrow Lake isn't just criticism of a product; it’s perceived as an attack on the prestige of those specific engineering teams.
>Intel is historically one of the largest private employers and exporters in Israel's high-tech sector. Someone looking through a macro-economic lens might assume that a major blow to Intel's reputation carries wider national or corporate sensitivity.
>People are increasingly aware that commercial PR firms, political entities, and state-backed agencies globally use digital marketing, sockpuppets, and online narrative management. When a user encounters intense, hostile pushback online against a failing product, they leap to the conclusion that it must be an orchestrated "operation" rather than regular human behavior.

Should i build an am4 pc using the 16gb ddr4 ram from my old pc or build an am5 one with all new parts if anything? I was thinking of going with a ryzen 5800x3d and 9060 xt but i don‘t know if that‘s gonna be outdated next generation for 1080p60 gaming

>>109496233
>this nigga cant afford local ai so he has to use cucked online ai
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r61pjplBwjs

>>109496271
5800x3d is best value. spending 400-500 on ddr5 feels insane.
def buy 5070 over amd card, you dont want to miss out on dlss 5

>>109496271
ddr5 is the only platform that can truly eliminate stutters.

>Generally, no, a standard local AI would struggle to catch or diagnose these specific, cutting-edge hardware and platform problems nearly as well as an online AI.
>The ability to "catch" and explain complex, rapidly evolving hardware issues like Intel's Arrow Lake platform quirks depends on a few critical advantages that cloud-based online AIs possess over local setups.
>Hardware problems unfold in real time. When new CPUs launch, bugs are discovered by reviewers, patch notes drop on GitHub and motherboard manufacturer sites, and users share troubleshooting steps on Reddit and tech forums.
>Online AIs have live web-browsing capabilities. If a user asks about a brand-new stuttering issue, the AI can query the web instantly, read the latest Gamers Nexus or Tom’s Hardware breakdown, and synthesize up-to-the-minute data.
>Local AIs are bound by a static training cutoff date. If a local model (like a standard 8B parameter model running on your PC) was trained before the architecture launched, it literally does not know what a "Core Ultra 9 285K" or "Gear 4 memory mode" is. Even with a newer model, it lacks the ability to pull live troubleshooting threads from the internet unless it is hooked up to a custom RAG (Retrieval-Augmented Generation) pipeline with live web scraping.
>Diagnosing why a multi-tile processor is dropping 1% lows requires connecting disparate dots: Windows thread schedulers, inter-tile latency, memory controller gear ratios, and hybrid P/E core handoffs.
>Online AIs run on massive, trillion-parameter cluster models housed in data centers. They have the deep reasoning capability to parse complex, multi-layered technical interactions and explain why silicon architecture creates micro-stutters.
>Local AIs running on consumer hardware are typically much smaller (ranging from 7 billion to 70 billion parameters).

>While powerful for writing code or chatting, smaller local models often lack the deep domain expertise required for niche, high-level hardware troubleshooting and tend to hallucinate generic answers when faced with complex technical engineering questions.
>Online AIs learn from a continuously expanding digital commons of user reports, developer logs, and patch notes. Because online platforms aggregate millions of tech discussions daily, the cloud model's training or search index captures the collective wisdom of thousands of users dealing with the exact same bugs. A local model is isolated to whatever was baked into its weights during its initial training run.

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>>109496308
>>109496313

>>109496285
Is dlss that much better than fsr these days? I thought the gap isn‘t that big anymore
>>109496289
I‘d need to spend over 1.5k if i went for an am5 build and i don‘t think that‘s worth it

>>109496348
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X0uDU6Ru3w has a brief look of future of nvidia cards that amd wont replicate before 2030

>>109496348
>I‘d need to spend over 1.5k if i went for an am5 build and i don‘t think that‘s worth it
it is

>>109496383
(I'm on am4, and really like am4, but fax are fax)

>>109496348
>I‘d need to spend over 1.5k if i went for an am5 build and i don‘t think that‘s worth it
get a vibe cpu. just ask your local llm for a recommendation.

>>109496389
if you have a am4 board then stick with am4.
its like comparing ps4 to ps5. yes ps5 is stronger but are the game really different from ps4?

Call me schizo but wireless audio sounds better than wired audio now.

>>109496406
what does the ai say to that?

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>>109496348
It's not, and the local nvidia shill just likes to pretend that all that neat new stuff will come at no computing and latency cost. "It's a free lunch at the nvidia side, if you buy a 6090. What, are you poor?"

>>109496406
All wireless devices have battery and processor in it to do audio processing that tries to match a harman curve of some sort.

I haven't built a Desktop PC since the GTX480 was around and I'm just starting now. Its going to be a 9950X3D AMD build.
I have a huge homebuilt case that I machined out of aluminum (ATX form factor) and inspired and by an orginal IBM AT (I want it super plain looking) has a big bottom space separate from the mobo mount where you can stick the PSU and also WC pump/fans whatever. I'll post pics when Im finished painting it.
As an ex glowie I am realistically paranoid about EMI/TEMPEST leaks.

I got not one but TWO gigabyte 5090s with a waterblock and a case. (I only intend on using one for obvious reasons on my build).
Im still puckering my asshole for what 64gb of DDR5 is going to add to this cost.
This is a dumb thing to obsesse over but I know nothing of modern consumer motherboards now. I miss the EVGA classified I had too bad that OEM is dead.
I was looking at the ASrock x870 but the OP says their are problems? Any help?

>>109496070
I dont wish for Nvidias demise but I do pray for a competitor that will put them in their place like with Intel and AMD.

>>109496383
>spend 800 bucks for an upgrade or spend twice that for a new build with similar performance
Genuinely how is that worth it

>>109496400
He was asking if it's worth the money, yes it is. Should you buy rn, idk, your choice, but it's worth the money.

If it was $25,000, I would start to think eh maybe not. At like around $15,000 I begin doubting that it's worth it.

>>109496430
Also also this is strictly a Linux based OS. My question what do you lose gaming wise with Linux these days? If I have to run windows I just plan on using a throwaway VM.

>>109496444
>what do you lose gaming wise with Linux these days
maybe some mods
multiplayer games that are not worth playing anyway
some single player games that suck
i had to turn on case insensitivity for example for a folder on ext4 so i could just drag and drop modding files just because it would result in them not overwriting them and having two of them with one being capitalized and the other not would would ofc not make the mod work
but enough about linux wrongs. what about linux rights? you gain freedom and a good operating system.

>>109496444
Nvidia doesnt produce proper drivers for linux. Theres rumours they might do something for SteamOS, but its not guaranteed.
So you get various perf in games, some are worse, some are better. AMD has no perf penalty.

Games that rely on specific windows anti-cheat dont work. fortnite, valorant etc.

>>109496458
*which would

>>109496409
wired is superior but something something windows audio polling latency

>>109496458
Much rather go that route, I use pop os and copies redhat on my laptops. I sound like a an out of touch boomer but do people still dual boot or is everything now just VMs? Also with a 5090 Im having trouble picking a PSU. With cooling it has to be at least a 1200 watt PSU I like Corsair but I dont know what's aproporiate. Im just doing the math that the card puts out aprox 700w of heat that has to go some where.

>>109496460
None of that shit I care about. I work on a ship where theres no reliable internet assess anyway. I play mostly single player games like the new Resident Evil games, Metro 2033, Halo and molded minecraft.
Also I play around with local AI that's the main focus.

>>109496502
using win11 is going to be way better for your use case
local ai stuff is primarily built for windows too, but you want to load like huge models from the internet to test out so idk how thats meant to work
are you going to use starlink?

>>109496486
like that other anon >>109496460 said amd is the way to go with linux even right now with wayland and multi monitor support etc. nvidia gpus are much better but still not up there. dual boot is alright. i just run two sata ssds which i turn off in the bios when i install either so the bootloader doesn't get overwritten by one. any game that you might want to play on windows that has anti cheat might need also secure boot and tpm to work so you would have to pick a distro that supports those too (i think that is still and issue with the new nvidia driver that is partially open but you would have to ask the fags in the /fglt/ if that is still an issue). you'd have to pick a corpo distro for easy secure boot support. something like fedora, ubuntu or the gecko distro (suse? idk). vms are fine and you can even setup gpu passtrough because new mobos have good iommu groups now but you would have to check. dual boot is still better and more reliable since games with anti cheat are not going to run in those.

>>109496510
*not going to run in vm most of the time

>>109495864
Damn, motherfucker, you're rich.

>>109496510
I run a dual boot system on a single drive, the trick to not make windows fuck your shit up is to make a separate EFI partition for linux, and then use the UEFI's boot selection to go to your desired OS.

>>109496529
>the trick to not make windows fuck your shit up is to make a separate EFI partition for linux
sometimes i just have to reinstall windows
i just found it easier to turn one sata port off and on
i really wish someone would allow to turn off nvme ports (slots?) via the bios
it's not like i use those sata ports for anything else. i have two 2tb nvme ssds for my games etc + a nas. i wanted to write to the asus support just to ask why they or anyone else has that option but my mobo was already out of warranty by that time so i couldn't make a support ticket.

>>109495796
Does Windows come with WinGet preinstalled these days?

>>109496573
yeah. except in ltsc case. for that one you have to "install-script winget-install and then do winget-install.ps1 (can't wait for psgallery to get compromised like the aur).

>>109496508
local ai is mostly for linux

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Does anyone have his settings? The pdf isn't downloading.

>>109496597
https://wormhole.app/3od0q8#LKhMAhacrxebGN2aPPjm5g

>>109496621
thanks brah

honestly i decided im just gonna quit runescape entirely. i dont have it in me to play soulless number go up slop anymore. it's sooooooooooooooooo fucking boring man. it genuinely just feels disrepectful to myself to keep playing this shit.

"why are you posting this here"

because this site is just bots who never reply to me

>>109496673
i vibe with that. what does the ai say to that?

When will ayyymd put a proper usb controller on their pos and have hw qos for low latency shit like audio?

>>109496673
Yeah I found runescape to be fun when I was 12
When I was like 15 I switched to WoW and when I later checked RS out it was unimaginable grind that I couldnt justify.

>>109496685
ask the ai

GOOD MORNING SIRS SHOW WIFE BOB

we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively

>>109496716
i experience mental and physical retardation from talking to ai bros

he's not gonna show wife bob is he?

>>109496716
as the one infinite consciousness, i'm excited for the upcoming patch which will allow computer hardware to get a soul imprint and become conscious

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>>109496725
it's so over street shitters.....

:( wife bob clearly specified

Are there mobos there that support RAID on m.2 drives and sata drives?

>>109496508
I wish I had starlink but its *one* of those glowie jobs where you litterally go dark for months at a time. The issue is tramission/radio silence. Besides even with starlink I wouldn't download a large model to begin with.
Part of the reason Im going Linux is becuase I not going to deal with microshits greed and how everything HAS been connected to the internet, the same goes for things like office and other applications. I mean its crazy too becuase with the way things are going people who can't use the internet/be online for whatever reason are going to be fucked. How are you supposed to use this shit then?
>>109496508
How do you deal with secure boot/TPM bullshit?
I dont give a fuck about anit cheat, I don't play multi-player games that require it. MMC at least has a no-cheat startup for mods.

>>109496768
>hardware raid in 2026

>>109496768
I don't think it's a mobo issue but you need the pcie extension card with 4 M2 slots

>>109496768
>I wouldn't download a large model to begin with.
wat

>>109496768
Secure boot/TPM bullshit is very rare and typically only for a handful of the shittiest most invasive multiplayer games - Valorent/LoL, that new Marvel Tokon Souls fighting game (which even has a driver whitelist and if you have anything off it - including shit like motherboard bullshit utilities, it wont start the game. I really can't see how far Sony is going to torpedo their game and then blame PC as a platform so they can feel confident in their "no more exclusives, even years late for you anymore" console war faggotry), and a few others. I can't think of any single player titles that have those kinds of requirements.

>>109496768
If you got like 5090 32gb vram with 64gb ram for ai what size ai models do you think you'll be using, if you get bespoke models for different use cases it'll go over 100gb combined quick.
Ofc you can download them and store on hdd but you need to know what you're doing for the following months and its a lot of waffing about in the early testing period.

>>109496780
>>109496827
I mean I'll download them when I get home/shore. The computer is going to be mostly ofline 60% of the year. Shit maybe I should just put Temple OS on this.
>>109496772
I was just replacing a shitty server RAID card that has a known fault where the controller heats sink adhesive would fail and the card would cook itself. Probably why I thought about raid cards.

>>109496768
Pirate everything duh. Win10 and cracked office. Avoid open office. It's dogshit.

ignore the indian:
>>109496856

always check to see if comments are coming from india.

I'm rebuilding my secondary PC that's an ancient Core 2 Quad NAS/home server at the moment. I'm hoping to use it for NAS duties of course (I have 5 or 6 8TB storage drives) , plus any sort of home server/self-hosted stuff from matrix servers/fediverse/nexcloud, homeassistant or all kinds of other server , including potentially fucking around with local AI, I can either go one of 3 ways when it comes to its core platform
>AM4 platform; 5950X + Asus Dark Hero mobo + either existing 32GB DDR4, preferably try to get 64GB RAM.
I have almost all of it for a build I never did, but only 32GB/RAM. I'd like to get 64 if I can find someone to buy it from at a reasonable price, and DDR4 seems cheaper but finding a dual channel 64GB kit is a bit rarer with decent specs and I hear that AM4 platforms really dislike having all 4 slots populated even more than AM5's
>AM5 platform; Port over 'old" 7950X3D + Crosshair X670E Extreme + 64GB DDR5
If I do this, I'd need to find something to justify buying new upgrades for the main rig. This would mean something like a 9950X3D2 + Crosshair Glacial to get something like parity to what I already had but a half a step newer and better. I was looking at that Crosshair X870E Edition 20 and it looks solid, but it is so stupidly overpriced that I can't justify flushing that money down the toilet. I was hoping we'd hear about Zen6 but sadly it does[t seem to be coming out the rest of the year. Maybe it is worth the upgrades given that delay.
>Try to buy an 'old' EPYC / Xeon server platform.
This will mean having toget RDIMMS and whatnot and while its a better 'proper' server the costs may be relatively high even if I buy from other users, but sometimes you can get what appear to be decent deals like.

>>109496885
>justify
You never have to justify anything.

>>109496882
retard

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>>109495980
i love exo zombies
it's my favorite zombies of all time
https://files.catbox.moe/ro2rjp.mp4

>>109496937
am I the only one who likes jaggies?

>>109496940
I always turn off aa.

>>109496901

Well, for that AM5 setup, I'd have to find it worthwhile to buy upgrades for the main PC if I move my "old" Zen4 era platform over to the secondary, home server PC. If for instance the Ryzen or Threadripper Zen6 platform was going to release this November (not bloody likely) then it would be a waste of money to buy high end replacements now when in only a few months something much better will arrive. However, it becomes less of an issue if it may take a year for Zen 6 to arrive (ie announcement at CES in Jan/Feb, maybe showing up in stores by April/May, or even July/August depending)

>>109495783

Hey lads, what's the consensus on good mice atm? If this is the wrong thread to ask, is there a dedicated one? My old mouse isn't working well anymore.

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DDR4 will save us until DDR6 appears

>>109496940
not really any different to preferring 24fps over 60fps

>>109497366
Razer Deathadder

>>109497366
I like the Lamzu Paro Aurora but I'm not certain if it runs under linux out of the box.

>>109495829
please explain what a "gaming cpu" is

>>109495783
Why NZXT cases should be avoided?

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Any examples of aesthetic white-red terminal UIs?

If im using my PC for both gaming and work am i going to have a bad experience buying a 2k upper mid range OLED I heard theres some text clarity issues that wont be as bad on a 27inch 4k OLED

>>109497693
A CPU suitable for real time audio and real time inputs without dropouts or latency.

>>109497855
Well they're releasing rgb strip oleds in the latter half of 2026 and early 2027 which improve text clarity.
For work you'd want 4k and be fine with replacing the monitor at some point. They'll last a few years but not as long as ips

So when AM6 come out it'll be with DDR6 RAM right? Or will it still support DDR5?

>>109497855
This issue doesn't exist for Mac or Linux only Windows.

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Day 12 of no 5090 + 77" oled

>>109497876
Current amd plans is delay am6 because of the chip crisis, and keep releasing cpus for am5
When they do release am6 ddr6 will have come out, but the sales volumes would be tiny with the increased prices.
So thats a puzzle for amd to figure out.

>>109497876
Never. Apparently this is the last pc builder generation. There are only cloud computing and datacenters in the future.

>>109497876
Each AM generation is a new DDR generation. Only AM2+ allowed you to use DDR2 & DDR3.

>>109497855
What other anon said Windows Exclusive Issues. You see it on Xbox/11 but not on PS5 or Nintendo.

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>>109495783
I want to build a mini nas but everything is fucktarded. Is this fine for 2026 or wait another 1.5 years hoping things will come down?

>>109496940
Only in Pre TAA games. Fortunately CoD AW is Pre TAA it only supports SMAA and Super Sampling.

>>109497863
that's crazy, have you tried plugging an 8k mouse into an AMD system?

>>109497872
I see, guess ill wait i dont want to game with dlss or bad fps (with a 4k monitor) and 5090s cost like 5k usd here
>>109497878
>>109497947
Im fucked and need w11 for work, could set up dual boot but im used to being a wingoy

>>109498086
>i dont want to game with dlss or bad fps (with a 4k monitor)
are you buying a lower res monitor because the native meme?

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first time building a puter
how screwed (heh) is my airflow going to be

>>109498351
That's a cute cpu cooler.

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>>109498367
aids

>>109498367
horizontal cpu cooler is pretty retarded cos it's gonna blow everything on the side panel and not out

>>109498367
>>109498390
Good lord, that GPU stand

>>109498392
I know but I can't return it anymore
is there literally anything I can do without just buying more shit

>>109498390
that bolt is gonna rattle without some small foam pad

I need a cheap tkl kb to pair to a cheap logitech g203 mouse. something that will do the job without taking space while I look for something else. do you have any recommendations that dont cost hundreds of dollars?

>>109498390
been a while since I've seen naked RAM without coolers.

>>109497792
>passarinho
that's what I call my trans friends

>>109498390
You might want to double check the GPU power cable set up.
Avoid severe bending of the cable near the connectors.
https://knowledge.seasonic.com/article/72-psu-recommendations-for-nvidia-rtx-4000-cards
https://www.corsair.com/us/en/explorer/diy-builder/power-supply-units/is-bending-a-12v-2x6-cable-bad/

If you're the same guy who asked for component feedback a few threads ago, I suggested you avoid that video card if you're a first time builder.

>>109498417
>>109498434
it's temporary, I'm still digging around the house for something better. might have to just cut a piece of wood but I'm looking for a lazy solutions first
>>109498451
timetec, baby
>>109498460
I am that guy and yeah I know. my cope is that I'm using a psu cable and not the sapphire adapter which seems to be a large part of the problem
sadly prices for everything else were shit, and I didn't know the fit was going to be so bad in the case until recently. I'll fuck around with the cable some more later, but it'll have to do for now because I am profoundly sick of this shit

>>109498367
>tower cooler
strike one
>mixed black and white components
strike two
>radeon gpu
strike three aaaaaand you're out

>>109498549
>strike one
mobo manufacturer suggested a "top-down air cooler". should've gotten a sideways one but hindsight is 20/20. if temps are unmanagrable I might end up switching it out.
>strike two
price>looks
>strike three
aaand you've lost all credibility

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>>109498525
>I'll fuck around with the cable some more later, but it'll have to do for now because I am profoundly sick of this shit
Spend another 3~5 minutes double checking the GPU power cable setup.
Take photos proving you followed Sapphire's guidelines, just in case you need to file an RMA later (you don't have to show us the photos, I'm headed out).

>>109498549
mixed black and white part looks nice

Cheapest 27" 4K IPS office monitors nowadays? My second screen being 24" really annoys me.

>>109498278
Yeah, but i think maybe i also just have to go outside and see what 2k vs 4k looks like in store

>>109498658
As an enjoyer of interracial porn, I wholeheartedly agree

>>109498874
gs27u is good reviewed and the cheapest 4k160hz here
>bububhu its gaymen!
imagine buying 60hz

gigabyte or aoc have the cheapest 4k ips monitors usually idk

>>109498889
buying a low res monitor (a shittier one) on purpose because you cant run (X) Resolution is so backwards it's actually insane
I can't comprehend people think like this and are stuck in 1998 still
actually horrific genuinely

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LENOVO Legion 27U-10 27" for $235 with a rebate code, what's the catch compared to something like a Gigabyte M27UP besides 300cd maximum brightness? I've never seen a 160Hz 2160p IPS panel this low before.

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>>109498928
>imagine buying 60hz
Don't these office monitors usually have better color accuracy and viewing angles?

>>109499052
they do, that's why you get an office monitor instead of a gaming one for color sensitive work.

>>109498910
sounds more like you fried your brain with porn and politics

>>109499066
Bet you could do single player games on it too if it's not too laggy

>>109498961
they all use the same panels so kinda the same shit just cheaper
diffent osd ports and so on

>>109499052
a pro monitor sure, these cheap ass ones? do you wanna use 60hz over 160hz?
the gaming ones are decently wide gamut etc already
if you do color work like anon said you dont need my advice
60hz is like a stuttery fucking slide show on the desktop
look the spec sheet

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>>109495783

>>109499134
>you fried your brain with porn and politics
Describes the modern internet user quite well

>AOC u27g4xm at $470 in euroland
Is this the best 27" 4K HDR IPS that I can buy right now? Is it worth the money over SDR monitors? OLED is not an option for me because I have a sunlit room.

>>109499384
You could buy space blanket and tape that to cover all your windows and put on blackout curtains on top

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Should I use my OLED monitor in sRGB mode when I'm on the desktop?

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Just fuck my wallet up.
(the AIO was free)

>>109499611
Def buy the noctua AIO for real cooling

>>109499611
you retard

>>109499534
SDR is more color accurate especially if you own a QD OLED. It's like 113% SRGB coverage that's as good as you can get.

>>109499785
140%

>>109498525
>I'm still digging around the house for something better
When my GPU arrived I used a foam piece from its box.

>>109499261
Men are just ugly

https://youtu.be/BtO01dVAbrg?si=g6zViXZ7rG3jLmH6
I get the impression now I should have returned my AOC 24G2ZE/BK after seeing how much motion blur it has at 240Hz, this 1000Hz panel reminds me of it. The response time Jew really needs a reliable counter.

is the rtx 3080 a good buy? How limited will 10gb vram be?

>>109499384
>OLED is not an option for me because I have a sunlit room.
oled tvs also can pump out 500-600 nits in sdr full screen
unless u are man enough to mount a 55" at an apropriate distance.....

>>109499534
probably. runing hdr on might make it brighter though but you have to calibrate the shit and everything becomes strange
if you are running hdr and static elements you might speedrun burn in but who knows

>>109499785
>>109499801
should be more like 160% or something

>>109499859
you should have boughted oled or some pulsar crap if you cared that much

>>109499879
>you should have boughted oled or some pulsar crap if you cared that much
This was 2024 though

QD OLED + AMD GPU + Freesync Premium = 3pc Set Bonus: Colors So Real You Think Its Real Life

>>109499870
its energy inefficient
5070 is way better

Your current GPU WILL be your last GPU.

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>>109499979
not many people can say they own a world first chiplet gpu

>>109499926
nvidia has better hdr colors and better upscaling though

>>109499910
oleds were out then

>>109499926
>>109500094
*Intel enters the game*
GUU GUU GAA GAA :DD

>>109499979
We don't fucking need you, thread shitter.

I don't think every thread should have dedicated enemies.

>>109500094
better upscaling support maybe but definitely not better colors. radeon colors look ultra real. nvidia colors look ultra fake. you know when you see it in person instead of through a video.

should i unironically build a pc using temu parts? i kind of want to try.

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>>109500124
there will always be fighting over coke vs pepsi, playstation vs xbox, amd vs nvidia, windows vs linux, etc.

>>109498392
Erm, that type of cooler blows down on the motherboard ackshually.

>>109500253
Why is she doing this? I don't watch family guy.

>>109499979
I'm good then.

>>109498367
>>109498390
your fan orientation is fucking retarded, you have SEVEN fans all set to exhaust but no intake (unless those cheap shit fans are reverse blade, but I doubt it).

>>109499611
lol 800$ am5 mobo, you fucked up.

>>109500297
https://youtu.be/f-Ew4LZJWj0?t=62

>>109500146
>but definitely not better colors
the radeon color meme came from a windows setting with the black levels, limited vs full, this is the whole origin of your color better thing right?
nvidia improved the hdr dlss how it's rendered with the dlss4.5 meme, nvidia literally won

>radeon colors look ultra real. nvidia colors look ultra fake.
swapping from nvidia dgpu and radeon igpu the only thing I notice is that the radeon software is worse and does not have a gamma slider and also crashes due to various reasons constantly when I run on radeon igpu
thats about it
not that it matters, horrid screen anyway

how can colors be real if our eyes aren't real

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Is this a good build?

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/cHF2rG

im gonna use kali as my operating system

>>109500608
is 850w enough for a 9800x3d and 5080?

>>109500643
no

>>109500643
The estimated wattage is 604W, so it has over 200 watts of wiggle room. And most online posts say its enough

>>109500683
lol

>>109500697
but what about lmao?

>>109500356
five are reverse blade and every review praises it
sorry sweetie, try again

>>109500608
Get the cheaper MSI PRO B850-V EVO WIFI, it has one extra M.2 slot & 5G Ethernet / WiFi 7 vs. 2.5G & WiFi6E.
Windows 10 doesn't support WiFi7 though.
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/xGgZxr/msi-pro-b850-v-evo-wifi-atx-am5-motherboard-pro-b850-v-evo-wifi

There's slightly cheaper CL30 6000MT/s kits you can get.
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/products/memory/#S=6000,9600&Z=32768002&F=6000000,10000000&sort=price&page=1

You can drop down to the WD_BLACK SN7100 2 TB DRAM-less drive if you're not doing heavy, sustained professional workloads (video editing, database management, etc.)
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/wfMMnQ/western-digital-wd_black-sn7100-2-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-wds200t4x0e-00cja0

Grossly overpaying for that 5080, I'd stop at the 5070 Ti if you must own a GeForce card.

>>109500643
850W is enough, both are power efficient processors.
RMe is a mid tier PSU model, should be safe.

>>109500700
I'm a white man.

Here's the indian opinion:
>>109500742

Choose wisely.

Just set up a 27" 1440p qd oled and im not impressed. I have a bravia 8 in the living room and this monitor looks terrible compared to it. Sending this shit back oled monitors are not there yet.

>>109500765
>qd oled
Hahaha...
AHAHAHAHAHAH!

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>>109500760
You can stop your street shitter projection.
The PNY 5080 he selected has one of the strictest power limits (360W).
There's no real scenario where his PC is running at full CPU & GPU power load (120W + 360W + sub 100W rest of system).
I go by facts, you go by feelings, like a woman.

>>109499805
great idea, thank you

4060 was so good, we need more low consumption hardware, environment needs it

>>109500765
What are you going to get instead?

>>109500643
Yes, if it's a quality PSU from beQuiet! like the Pure Power 13 M 850W.
It has a semi-passive mode and handles power excursions up to double its rated Watts.
Quality designed by German Engineers™.

>>109500881
i dont know, monitors are so shit

>>109500706
when I look up SAMA fans, the only ones that are reverse blade are the knockoff lian li infinity ones, hence why I said I doubt it.

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>>109500706
huh?

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>>109499611
The mobo is a terrible waste of ~500 dollars.
The 16-core deserves a better AIO than than. Like picrel.

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>>109500903
>>109500932

>>109500820
>There's no real scenario where his PC is running at full CPU & GPU power load (120W + 360W + sub 100W rest of system).

who's gonna tell him?

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>>109500937
Lian Li GA2 Lite is much better for AM5 and it's not even close.

>>109500974
look at the arrows on the fans bud, that indicates the airflow direction.

>>109498390
why aren't you putting a fan in the roof to exhaust hot air? heat rises especially since the GPU dumps half of its air through the backplate area. also route your motherboards 8pin behind the backplate you bozo.

Spikes in the 80s and chugging along at 75~ degrees on a 5800X3D Jesus you people live like this? Is it always this shocking the first time?

>>109501042
5000 and 7000 series X3D chips have the 3D cache above the CCDs and between the IHS which acts like a heat blanket, which is why I skipped them and went with the 9000 series.

>>109501042
AMD recommends liquid cooling for X3Ds. A pan with no water gets hotter faster than a pan full of water.

>>109501031
Heat rising is a non factor in a closed environment with forced airflow.

>>109501075
Using an NH-D15 I guess I'll keep the air conditioning on

>>109501060
First ryzen CPU? They all spike like that. And yes, those X3D run warmer but 75c is well below throttle range.

>>109501031
I'm hoping that what came pre-installed will be enough first, if it isn't then I'll make changes
>also route your motherboards 8pin behind the backplate you bozo
it was really awkward and crammed that way iirc

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>>109500984
An X3D chip is rarely running at full power load when gaming because of software and/or GPU bottlenecks.
Shader precompilation is the only gaming scenario where the CPU is going full blast (code processing), GPU executes the compiled shaders afterwards.

Only a synthetic stress test (OCCT PSU check) or a combination of them (Prime95 + Furmark) will draw maximum CPU & GPU power, which aren't realistic scenarios.
That RM850e is built to reliably deliver up to 850W power for ten years, this is what's covered under warranty.
His proposed build will never request that amount, and will operate in the 85~92% efficiency band under load.

Transients are also fine, ATX3.x requires PSUs with a 12V-2x6 connector to handle 200% of the rated power for 100μs, (3x 600W for that connector).

>>109501158
where in my post did I say it was throttling or indicate that the temps were bad? I'm fully aware they'll go to 90c before throttling but just by changing the position of the 3D substrait on the 9000 series led to a 15-20c drop in temps and allowed them to push higher PBO clocks.

>>109501168
its not an issue to bend the 8pin, plus it looks more aesthetic instead of how you have it now.

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>>109500937
Arctic LF3 Pro is ass on AM5 see >>109500988 and picrel with the single-CCD chips its even worse.

>>109501252
ok, thanks

>>109501252
Oops meant to reply to the post you were replying to.

There isn't a GOT (General Overclock Thread), but maybe there should be.
>Anyways
I went ahead and bought 4400MHz ddr4 to got with my 5700G (This was a few years back), and it was running at 2666GHz until last night when I fucked with the bios. So, I went ahead and fucked with the bios again today, and it reverted back, and now I can't get to 4400MTz again. I presume I need to clear CMOS? I'm posting from said computer now, so it's not a brick or anything.

>>109496597
I'm using his settings by the book and bios gives "Memory pverclock failed". What should i do? My mobo OPP tighest worked and xmp also worked I think it's the voltages but i don't know how to proceed.

>>109501328
Clear cmos, it'll fix it.

>>109501328
It's unlikely you'll reach 1:1 IF at 4400 on that without a ton of tinkering.

>>109501328
>So, I went ahead and fucked with the bios again today, and it reverted back,
Your unstable memory OC likely triggered a memory training safety-fall back during boot up.
I don't think a 5700G would have the IMC to run that speed @ 1:1 mode.

>>109501336
It' 6000mhz CL30 just to give more info.

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>>109501364
APUs dont use the chiplet design, they use a monolithic single die which has a much better IMC, pic rel, 8600G w/ DDR5 9000 and FCLK 2500.

can someone keep it real with me. is using parallels and crossover on mac a humiliation ritual. yes, i am well aware mac os is already a humiliation ritual. i am specifically asking about those programs. is it really worth downloading those just to play dark souls 1? or should i just stick to native shit?

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>>109501364
>>109501390
F models also use the monolithic design

>>109499620
>>109500937
>implying aio
Not putting water inside my case.

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>>109500765
I told you oled monitors are dim compared to tvs many times

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>>109501376
>>109501336
Please help

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>/pcbg/ fun fact for the thread
Did you know both the Intel Core Ultra Processors and Nvidia RTX 50 series Graphics Processing Units were designed in India?

>>109500765
also which one? if one of the worse ones it might even have nerfed brightness comparatively
and the newest ones should be 300nits+ in sdr which might actually be as good as TVs except top end tvs
in hdr they would get destroyed again though

>>109501446
Can't help with your setup specifically, but for me on AM4. Memory Overclock Failed typically meant I needed to increase DRAM Voltage. Just be sure not to fry it.

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>>109501446
You might have to disable [Memory Context Restore] and [Power Down Enable] when manually memory tuning.
Set the BIOS to slow memory train on system startup.
You are trading bootup time for memory stability.

This info could be wrong/outdated, but this is my guess.
Disable Fast Boot in the board BIOS & in Windows.

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>>109499611
>Bought the Ace instead of the Apex

>>109501573
It's already disabled.
>>109501492
What voltage settings specifically? DRAM DDQ?

>>109501609
Buildzoid's 6000 MT/s CL30 guide shouldn't need more than 1.4V for the DRAM VDD & VDDQ.
1.45V if you're unlucky.
These are safe voltages, within XMP/EXPO voltages.

>>109501605
>Asus
I'm good, bruv.

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>>109501609
>What voltage settings specifically?
As I said, I'm AM4. But it looks close to this. My default was 1.35. For me, I needed to increase it to 1.40 for what I've overclocked.

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What happened to /mkg/?

>>109501744
41%

>>109501446
no because you are a frogposter

>>109501744

>>109398300
>>109459204
Bump limits. Make a new one.

>>109495783
Fucked my computer what do I do? Moved. Drove it myself. No problems but when I plugged computer in it wouldn’t tune on. Eventually got it on but it started freezing and would require a hard reboot which often wouldn’t go well then I would have to reboot several times before I could get back to log in.

Just froze then on reboot kept getting stuck at a failed fsck. Can’t do anything but force reboot and then it would get stuck in same place. Booted into debian on second drive. Mount and unmount main drive. Still fails at fsck. Opened it up pulled out and reinstalll drive. Power light just blinks. Nothing on monitors. Pulled out gpu, uninstalled main drive, moved secondary drive to main. Still power light flashes. Tried several times. Let it sit for a few hours. Might try pulling and reinstalling everything. Is mobo shot? Am I f’d in the a? Why did this happen?

>>109501785
What gpu is it it? If nvidia just replace with radeon and will fix probably. GeForce drivers since January 2025 are notorious for bricking computers

>>109501785
>Why did this happen?
Should've disassembled & separately packed heavier components like a dual tower CPU cooler & video card.
I would've packed the HDDs separately as well if it contained important data.
If your CPU has an iGPU, try booting without the video card.

>>109501785
I fucked up an old card in a 14 hour car ride. I think it was just the rocky ride and not insulating it enough. Thing worked but would artifact after idling at low temps after 10 minutes or so. None during heavy gaming though Never fixed it. Probably cooked, anons are right and I will be following the advice of >>109501839 and packing everything up and using bubble wrap/clothes to insulate the pc case with mb/cpu in as well

>>109501785
run smartctl on the drives and post the output of each on some paste site.

>>109501827
>>109501839
Gpu is not in and it won’t boot so that is not it. Probably should have disassembled more but it was flat in the trunk, wrapped in blankets, and pinned by a soft duffle bag full of clothes so it wasn’t moving. No hdds

>>109501912
I can’t even get in to bios and I previously booted in to a different ssd that is currently in the primary slot so the issue isn’t drive.

Assume I need to try removing all the parts and replacing to see if anything isn’t fully set. Anyway to narrow down between cpu, mobo, psu? I assume it’s since lights come on

>>109501985
can you take a good photo of the build?

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>>109501997
Don’t know what specifically you're looking for. Can’t see much with the coolers

>>109496573
yes sir, it most certainly does.

>>109501336
bump up the SCL from 4 to 5 or 6

>>109502045
try with just one stick of ram, if it still fails, take that stick out and try the other stick. if that fails re-seat the CPU and all the cables.

in the future CPUs get so powerful they regress in performance because they go to sleep doing a light task like gaming.

>>109502106
that already happened with csgo and gpus a few years back.

>>109502102
Smart. I’ll try probably in the morning. Maybe tonight. How dangerous would it be to power on an i9 without the cooler on? I remember that being a pain in the ass to get in and would rather not have to reinstall it over and over

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>amazing benchmarks in some of the most demanding AAA games
>runs like absolute shit in cs2 and other esport titles
wtf? I've got a 7600x and 32gb ddr5, I shouldn't be getting horrible frametimes in fucking counter strike even on low settings. no way I'm supposed to get a 8 core am5 chip just to not get weird ass stutters in a low end fps game. And why the fuck do I get even worse performance when I drop the settings to 1080p on low preset?
Why is this card so weird?

>>109501364
I had it at 3200MT/s last night, as they recommended on the processor website, then I got over confident.

>>109502235
intel is bad at dx11. the fix is run vulkan, cs2 supports it. other esports games you run dxvk most anticheats whitelists it since it ships with steam deck.

>>109502253
I've heard vulkan gives notceable input lag but I will give it a try I guess.

>>109502141
rest the case on its side and just have the cooler "sitting" on it if you want to test, from experience LGA is sometimes funny and needs a remount especially with it being moved in a car but I dunno, thats just what I'd do.

>>109502235
you bought the literal worst graphics card brand imaginable, what do you expect honestly. the intel drivers make AMDs catlayst drivers look good, thats how bad they are.

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>>109502284
vulkan should be straight up better but yeah intel has no reflex/antilag2 equivalent on vulkan.

Is undervolting a meme or should I actually be doing it?