>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICEPost build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/Provide specific use casesState BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped>CASEmATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, XT M3ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207/217, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50, BF360Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8>CPUBudget: 7500F, 7/9600/X, 225/F, 12600K/F, 5600/XGaming: 9850X3D, 9/7800X3D, 250K, 5800XTWorkstation: 9950X/3D(2), 9900X/3D, 270K>COOLERAIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Cooler Master Atmos, Lian Li GA II Lite, Corsair Nautilus RS, be Quiet Silent Loop 3Dual tower: A620 PRO SE, Phantom Spirit, NH-D15 G2ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67TIM: MX-7, Duronaut, PTM7950 (phase change), KryoSheet (carbon sheet)*Most listings online are not actually 7950>MOTHERBOARDAM5 CPU degradation issues still reported>RAMDDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (Intel)Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)DDR4: 3200CL16, 3600CL18>SSD (Keep firmware updated)DRAMless: 7100, NM790PCIe Gen 4.0: 850XGen 5.0: 8100https://borecraft.com/>GPUBudget: Arc B580, 9060 XT 16GB, 5060, used card*8GB has become a major constraint even at 1080pMidrange: 9070, 5070, 9070 XTHigh-end: 5070 Ti, 5080Next Gen Experience: 5090VRAM Heavy AI: Blackwell 6000>PSUBuying guide:https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/>MONITOR1080p: 24" 165/180hz IPS, KTC H25X71440p: 27" 165/180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), discounted OLED4K:KTC M27P6 (miniLED), discounted OLED>OSActivate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt>CASE FANSMeta: Case with good stock PWM fansMidrange: Pure Wings 3, Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)Prev: >>109558298
I like the look of the 20th edition stuff, just because it looks like how I imagined future computers to look when I was 13.But ain't nobody affording that shit.
i watched a clip of digital foundry and these retards said the ps6 is in the rtx5090 range in performance what are your thoughts on this i laugh every time i think back to that clip personally there is no way that shit will cost less than 1000 and do the performance of a 5090 that costs x4 that for the card alone
>>109565765the visible cable on the GPU ruins it a bit. The GPU being fixed from both sides so it cannot sag is a nice idea but obviously only works when the parts are made for each other.
>>109565788Lmao, no fucking way.The PS6 will probably be around a 9060 XT but make heavier use of upscaling via whatever AMD is releasing to compete with DLSS 5.
>>109565806https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bo_1pgzHm5s
>>109565814nice try but I'm not giving them any clicks when they are purposely retarded
>>109565543i hate fucking pc casesi just want a black fucking box with at least 8 expansion slots on the backevery fucking case has 7why?if you want to populate the bottom pci slot you fucking cant cause the god damn psu is in the way.why does every case have to be fucking glass?i just want a black fucking box that will sit under a table and run shit.
>>109565878you can always make your own out of sheet metal.
>>109565543dear fgt OP 2x check next time there isn't already a pcbg >>109565084
>>109565938That's the AMD general, this is the PC building general. You can tell by the OP.
>>109565878Just buy one like that?There's loads of them?
israel is attacking 4chan by splitting generals and dedicating a thread shitter to each general.
>>109566006>7 expansion slots
>>109566371What are you even doing with 8 expansion slots?
>>109565878Phanteks Enthoo Pro with the solid side panel. Last good case before the zoomers ruined everything with their gay shrouds.
>>109566460you need the 8th because if you don’t and you try to put a double slot gpu in the bottom pcie slot the psu blocks it from being installed. trying to install a secondary card to get more vram to run better models. but my r4 is so fucking old i can’t.
>>109566490motherboard spacing issue, you can absolutely do two cards with plenty of space on the bottom if your mobo is built right
>>109566551idk man. i’ve had many builds in this case over the years and they have all had the same issue with bottom pcie clearance but this is the first time i’ve actually had to populate the thing
>>109566569Asus cases usually have 8 expansion slots but even the proArt models have glass except for maybe one and you may still run into clearance issues if your PCIe slots are low on the motherboard.
>>109566475emthoo is a piece of shit lol.I returned that junk and bought an o11 evo xl instead
>>109565795>>the visible cable on the GPU ruins it a bitIt's got that asus motherboard connector thing you don't need to use the cable
Why has Lian Li been so quiet lately? Nothing exciting from them
>>109566716It's a great case. You replaced it with a retarded zoomer RGB case. Your opinion is irrelevant.
>>109566728do you need more?
>>109566716>two completely different cases ????
>>109566723Even with a 5090?
>>109566723this was one of the 800w 5090, no? In this case you'll have to use the BTF connector and the cable.
>>109566728Tariffs and cheap clones fucked them pretty hard.
Let me guess, you need more?
>>109566911need less actuallythat case looks overly designed and cooling doesn't even look that great considering the size
full amd builds are amazing and im tired of people pretending they arent
>>109567119I'm still not quite ready to give AMD another try after all the other time I've thought they've fixed their bullshit only to have driver issues.
How does this look for a midrange gaming pc with room for easy future upgrades?
I am scared of buying another corsair psu because the previous one was causing gpu coil whine
>>109567119Terrible. Crap cards, no CUDA, bugs go unfixed for years. CPUs have high DPC latency and feel worse to use than 12 years old Intel cpus in general tasks. AMD hasn't been good since the Athlon XP.
>>109567225Do corsair even make their own PSUs?
>>109567246lies.The only nvidia you should buy is 5080+. at 5070, it's a toss-up, people argue. at 5060, it's very silly, you can, but silly.The 5060 just isn't as nice as the 3060 was, it's unworthy of the name - in its generational placement.There are two 5xxx series cards that matter, the 5080, and the 5090.
is anything other than the standard atx mid-full tower meme tier?
>>109567425Nah, 5070Ti has DLSS. That shit looks years better than FSR.
>>109567441Ignore the FUD and see how FSR4 looks like. It's commodity tech, now.t. Arc owner
>no one is buying any computer parts, at all>retailers can't make money selling a $5 120mm fan>they sell one with a OLED screen on it for $199
>>109567246>CPUs have high DPC latency and feel worse to use than 12 years old Intel cpus in general tasksno one could have predicted this would happen when AMD outsourced their platform to the lowest bidder
>>109565842>>109565950turns out the mobo I have now is a H310M-DGS which apparently only supports intel processors, with my current one being an i5-8400.is that more reason to upgrade everything at once or should I still look to DDR4 compatible intel processors for an upgrade? I have 16 gigs of DDR4 RAM currently so it'd definitely be a shame to have to replace that.
>>109567441ai is for people who don't matter.When you don't matter, the fact you only think you have better graphics is fine (even though you don't, it's fake pixels that will make you lose even more than you already are a loser)
all nvidia had to do was just not charge too much.then, they'd be a good deal.They charge too much, they aren't a good deal.
>>109565543>USA, $200 - $300 budget>Lower end specs, has to a mini PC that can be mounted behind or tucked underneath a monitor like pic related or those little square ones that seem to get pushed a lot these days>W10/11 is a requirementI made the move to Linux last month. I've enjoyed it thus far, but I am finding certain limitations and issues with using Wine/Proton for compatibility. Instead of setting up a dual boot I'd like to use a second computer that I can tag in with a KVM to handle the things I can't get running on Linux. A laptop is out of the question, my belief is that a mini PC would be more suitable to my specific needs.I especially want it for MS office. In my experience, the alternatives always wind up with formatting issues when trying to work with files native to MS, which is a major problem if you're sharing it with a group of people and they're all using MS.Doesn't need any real gaming capabilities, I may use it for old stuff like dosbox or GoG releases if Linux is being finicky, but really it only needs to be powerful enough to handle MS office, internet browsing, FTP into my Linux PC to transfer files, and other lightweight tasks that don't require a lot of resources. I've been shopping around all day but I'm just not familiar with buying these things compared to regular desktop stuff. I'm also worried about buying something fishy since it's technically a prebuilt. I know it's a bit unorthodox for this general, but I would like some advice if any of you has experience with these things.
>>109565543when is the 9050 coming out in usa?
If you don't have at least 4 gpus in 2027 you will be a LOSER
>>109567832two green, one blue, one red, is there another color for me to get yet?
they need to re release some good am4 boards
>>109567772nvidia hardware is worse than amd hardwareon nvidia gpu these colors look inaccurateon amd gpu these colors look real
What's the situation with mice these days?My boy (pictured) has been shutting off at random while gaming for a while and it's fucking me over in a lot of situations because I have to stand up and reach behind tower, unplug it from the port, and plug it back in to fix that. And then it does it again either minutes later or weeks later, there's no consistency. Today it was 8 times in one hour, but last occurred in July. Anyway, I guess it's not a driver issue but something going on with the electronics, so I'm in the market for a mouse again. God damnit.
>>109567948enjoy choosing between 60,000 zoomer mice that are all going to break in 1 year
>>109567922theres a fresh batch of am4 boards: assrock boards that look bretty gud, gigassbyte look kinda dodgy as always, msi dissapointed me all matxnot sure what assus is doing, i tihnk they did a fresh batch of lga1700 but i dont remember seeing anything about am4since i dont remember their nameshttps://videocardz.com/?s=am4
>>109567958That's what I was worried about. I'd hate to pay aftermarket prices for mice out of production, but I also don't know just how bad it got in the last ten years.
>built my pc like 2 years ago>it's appreciated in value>considerably
>>109567945this is the ugliest ai trend, you have all the power of a god and you choose to imitate reality, poorly
>>109567709I haven't used intel in a while maybe some other anons know better if the best intel chip for that motherboard would be a bad bottleneck or not
>>109565788I watched the same clip and tehy didn't say that, they said that the 5090 is the only card guaranteed to run games better than the upcoming consoles. The argument was that if the consoles had 30gb+ of unified RAM then cards with less than 24gb of vram would probably run into problems running some of the games. They even mentioned that if the SUPERS were out then anything 5070 and up would be good.
>>109566795Using just the btf connector will limit it to 600w but it'll run
there's no way those consoles launch with those 40GB+ unified ram now
>>109567985doesnt change that amd colors are real and nvidia colors are fake
>>1095678911. for your waifu2. for your work-fu (vibecode)3. for gaemz / 3d like blender4. for image diffusion etcx. more devices, more diffusion
>>109568021I don't care about your consolewar bullshit, I already have both.
>>109568020Why not, either way they'll be overpriced due to the RAMpocalypse might as well give 32gb of RAM and sell for $1k than Gino your whole generation and still have to price your shit at $800 minimum.
>>109567982I paid like 2.2k for this lol
talking about bluehttps://videocardz.com/newz/unreleased-core-i9-14901ke-8-p-core-intel-cpu-reaches-7-4-ghz-in-oc-testso intlel are terminally retardedimagine not releasing this cpu(wich fixed self-sudoku/rust backdoors), sure its a furnace but a one made for heterosexual menwhat in the actual fuck is their endgame
>>109565788It might have 5080 performance since it's based on rdna5I doubt it'll match the 5090 since console apus are mid sized at best and are hard limited to 300w for the full system which limits their clockspeed
>>109568046He's spreading fud, they were never talking about performance but about RAM capacity.
>>109568025I meant is there another color that I can get yet, not is there use for another gpu. I know there's always use for more gpu compute.
>>109568042>embeddedthere's your answer
>>109568071it was intended for embedded but im pretty sure you can tell what this sample looks like
turns out I had a random rog strix b450-i laying around(a bent pin or two needed to be put back into position but no other major visual fault)someone redpill me on the current state of itx or matx builds in 2026thinking about downsizing from my current atx full tower and waiting out this crisis until zen 7 or even am6 with my 5800xd
>>1095681285800x3d*
real clay is so much easier than Blender.
>>109568060Ever smell rat poop? Sometimes, vintage computers have rat poop in them.
>>109568128I wanted a matx build but couldn't find a matx mobo that had what I wanted in a price I found good so I bought a compact ATX case and have been pleased with it. Fractal define C is the most space efficient ATX case that almost scratches that matx itch. ITX is too small and is a huge compromise.
>>109568228definc c is still well over 40cm tall so I would exactly call it compact
I've got two brand spanking new 24tb hard drives setup in a raid configuration on my nas currently but it's really bothering me that I could have 48tb of storage as opposed to only 24tb of space.Am I going to regret it if I undo my raid config to make the most of my hard drives? I hardly ever touch the drives so usage will be low over the years. I mostly just use them to have a backup of games/shows/movies just in case they ever disappear from the internet
>>109568328better be safe than sorry later
I am once again posting my future build in 2 weeks.ryzen 5 5500rx 760016gb ram from an old pc 2666mhz1tb m.2 from that pcGigabyte A520MMSI MAG A750BEless than $600 on this to run shit at 1080pI know the ram isn't the best but I'll upgrade that a month down the road
>>109568057It's nvidiafoundryThey have to bootlick Nvidia constantly so that they can protect their Nvidia content creator privileges
>>109568289Its a compact ATX case being a few inches shorter than a standard ATX case. Good use of space. I would have liked to built a matx build but I couldn't find everything I wanted to work with that build when I built mine. I find it easy enough to move around and to be honest if you go smaller wire management and ideal fan placement get harder.
>>109568387I might switch out the mobo for the GIGABYTE B550M K
>>109568387i know you wont like this (you) but thats a cezanne cpu, a repurposed notebook cpu for am4techpowerup.com/cpu-specs/?codename=Cezannenot sure where are you from but a 5600 (vermeer cpu) should be pretty close in price and has twice the cachehttps://www.techpowerup.com/cpu-specs/?codename=Vermeerdont get me wrong the 5500 is the top selling cpu in most places because superb price and decent performance but with a couple of bucks extra you can extend the lifespan of that under 700 price/perf buildabout the gpu, the 9060 and the 5050 could be in that price range but im not completely sure, at least in my cunt everyone is overcharging for the rx7600
>>109568490the 5500 is gonna be temporal for a few months then I'll get a 5800x3d
>>109567119Is AMD really that much better for linux?
>>109567767>Buying a new GPU to not use the features on it.Why?
>>109568615Those aren't actually gpu features. Basically, nvidia designed ai cores and then tried to come up with a purpose for them.ai stuff is the new hairworx or whatever. It fools the kids and the simple.
>>109568619(purpose for them on the pc)the consumer side is the dump of the bin.
>>109568615ai shit are anti-features or (((features))) for the cattle
>>109568619Yeah, so it's hardware on the card that's used to render a generative model and improve visuals in a game.
>>109567119they are amazingly mid since 9070xt/7900xtx are the fastest options
>>109568657AMD would be doing so good right now if they just didn't stop at midrange and actually priced competitively than just slightly cheaper than Nvidia for a modestly worse card.
>>109568716AMD's doing great, gamers are simply second class citizens in computing
>>109568830nobody wants amd gpus, not even hyperscalers or ODMs
>>109568871sure thing buddy
>>109568871They sell out of everything...
>>109568880He's indian.
Besides installing the CPU on the Motherboard and installing the RAM, are there any other parts of building a PC that can easily break during the installation process?
>>109568913I've broken the little plastic PCI-E locking tab like three times.
>>109568913moving a built pc while having your 3-4 slot gpu not secured with a gpu holder. it will break the gpu's pcb which will instantly kill it and void your warranty
>>109568021this is so retardedly easy to prove one has to wonder why there is no evidence.
>>109568021Rdna5 can't come soon enoughMy 5090 is already feeling like a slow and hot GPU
>>109565543>upgrade to a bigger case with twice the fans>get worse performanceI don't know what's going on anymore.
>>109569001It's one of those retarded things that just makes AMD fanboys look more unhinged and put people off buying them. In reality it's pretty simple. Depression and negative mood have an effect on the perception of colors. AMD guys are often so doped up on SSRIs and HRT that they don't feel normal emotion and therefore perceive color more vibrant.
>>109569001google ai says it isn't real ;_;
>>109568057oh cmon you liar he said what card and he said 5090 you know exactly what he meant
>>109569046>more fans more better
>>1095690462 140mm intake, 1 140/120mm air cooler and 1 120mm exhaust is all you need
>>109569066this is actually true, when i was gaming on my 580 my GTA had flatter colors, when i swapped to 3090 the game looked different, i didnt like it, maybe its the default settings of the drivers or something, but it definitely looked different, i preferred 580, but i didnt bother to dwell on this because i figured after a while i wont even remember what 580 looked like and graphics are so much better it doesnt really matter
>>109569099He said 5090 because the other cards have too little vram, watch the fucking clip you retard and quit spreading your fud.
>>109569046Case has more air inside of it that needs more fans to move it.
>>109569119I'm on the fence about it. My steam deck oled definitely outputs more saturated colors and sharper images than what I usually see but it could be placebo
>>109563117Mobo would be a decent idea but CPUs don't die easily enough to justify getting a duplicate as far as I know (outside of special circumstances like the recent Asrock AM5 thing), considering they're just silicon without a PCB
halp i need advice. i'm upgrading my pc right now and ordered a bunch of parts but i'm realizing that i've made a mistake. so i'm a filmmaker and video editor and i do frequently edit and work with large files in the 4k range. so i was wanting a good SSD in the pc for central storage for all my files and something good to video edit with so i was going to get a nvme 5th gen 4tb SSD. now my mistake was ordering a SATA ssd to replace my boot drive, as my current boot drive is an 11 year old SATA ssd. i realized i should get a nvme drive to take advantage of my pc's capabilities right? for context my motherboard i'm about to get is the MSI MPG Z890 CARBON WIFI. anyway, just wondering what should my ssd solution be? should i use a nvme 4th gen 500gb for my boot drive for games and other apps and then use a 5th gen nvme 4tb for my creative apps like video editing and photoshop and high fast storage? or just use the 4tb for everything? i'm just confused bc i keep seeing stuff on reddit of ppl saying 4.0 and 5.0 have no difference. i personally just want to be able to edit and work with large files smooth as butter.
>>109569066>>109569119>>109569161it's true but only because nvidia defaults to limited on a lot of monitors for some reason so you are only seeing 235 (colors?) instead of the full 255
>>109567219pls respond
>>109569205i don't have an nvidia gpu anymore but even my 4070 would do this on my 3440x1440 ultra wide. with my 9070xt it would default to the full range by default. i had to steal the picture because i don't use nvidia or windows anymore but linux has also the option in it's display settings and the picture look really bad when i set it to limited (it looks just like the 4070 on windows).
>>109569205I remember on my AMD cards it would always default to limited.
>>109569241my 480 would default to full. same for my 5700xt, 7800xt, 7900gre, 7900xtx and 9070xt.
>>109569280Maybe it's a monitor thing.
why does syncing the system clock make the system performance feel different on windows each time
Is it possible to make a single vendor computer? Even like ASUS, you can get ROG everything, but you're still putting Corsair RAM or something in it.
>>109569356shut up goy
>>109569356Asus has limited edition ROG 20th anniversary ram kits
>>109567780you fucking retard, spin up windows VM, use it like the toilet that it is, then pause/suspend. if you are a student and heavily rely on office it could be annoying, but if you are too stupid to use AI to config wine, then just use a VM whenver you need office
>>109569356>PNY PC.>It's all just matte black plastic.
>>109569291because you need to get diagnosed
>>109569205>>109569161i am not sure about what seeting i have since i do not have the card set to primary right nowsince i use it for ML, but to me all colors seemed a bit oversaturated and kind of too yellow, so if you are able to lower saturation by 25% it should look like AMD
RGB are for blacks
>Okay, so the demo is 4 suitcases providing 768gb vram, powered by a 15000 watt portable generator, feeding into an $80 mini pc, with a couple of monitors.## The Complete "VRAM Vault" Specifications MatrixWhen you draft your campaign documentation in VS Code, here is how you can present the technical breakdown of the 192GB Turn-Key Stack vs. the 768GB Mega-Vault Demo Array:| Specification | The 192GB Single Vault (The Retail Tier) | The 768GB Quad-Vault (The Demo Rig) ||---|---|---|| GPU Architecture | 24x NVIDIA Quadro M4000 (Maxwell) | 96x NVIDIA Quadro M4000 (Maxwell) || Total Cores | 39,936 CUDA Cores | 159,744 CUDA Cores || Total VRAM | 192 GB GDDR5 | 768 GB GDDR5 || Host Interface | 1x OCuLink Gen4 x4 (or USB4 Bulkhead) | 4x OCuLink Links (via M.2 Splitter) || Peak Power Draw | ~2,880 Watts continuous | ~11,520 Watts continuous || Recommended Grid | Dual 15A AC Circuits (or 3-Phase) | 20,000-Watt Diesel Generator || Chassis Protection | Floating Shock Cage (Pelican iM2950) | 4x Interlinked Shock-Isolated Cases |
>>109567119Nah, they don't make anything that performs better than my 4090.
>>109567246>30fps shintel feels like 120fps on amdgo back to usershitmark nigger
is PNY good for a 5070ti brand?
6000 MT/s CL30 or 6400 MT/s CL32?
>>109570005They are fine.>>109570074Zen 4/5 6000Intel 6400Planning on upgrading to zen 6 maybe 6400
>>109570083Zen6 will be 8000mhz
>>109570107that wasn't the question
>>109570083I see. The RAM I snagged is a Kingston 6400, but I believe it has a 6000 CL30 profile too via EXPO.
Whats the best RAM manufacturer? Like the premium one? I've always just gone with whatever offers the specs I want at the best price and never had a problem. Most of them have different tiers but I've never gone for the more expensive stuff.I've seen a few recommends in the last couple of threads but I'm interested if there's a more definitive answer or consensus.
>>109570117There's one RAM manufacturer, that sells RAM to companies who rename it to theirs and sell them under that name.
>>109570117The brands you see are an illusionThere are 3 (relevant) manufacturers - Samsung, Micron, and SK HynixSK Hynix makes the best DDR5
>>109570135I wish I had 0.000000000001% market share of SK Hynix, so I could live as a billionaire for the rest of my life...
>>109570117amd's low latency 6000cl26 ram is the best one money can buyit's supposed to be offered by multiple memory vendors but I've only seen them being sold by g.skill
>>109570183which planet are these AMD DDR5 fabs on
>>109570191its on your mom
>>109566756On the topic of cases what should I put in the 4" drive bay? The case I got has 4 of them and I was thinking of putting some kinda NAS or server like hot swappable drives in a RAID config. Any suggestions.Picrel the case I bought for my 5090 AI build LD Cooling its massive and fit two PSUs. They used to do Phase change cooling (like Refrigeration) but it never caught on.I'm just going with a simple 2x Radiator WC setup.Also what's a good AMd motherboard that can support two PSUs?
>>109569935Ironic, considering you don't seem to understand what DPC latency is and how it affects system responsiveness. If you stop chimping out I would be happy to explain it to you.
>>109570206Sorry that's a shit photo. Here's a better one.I dont want to put a WC resvoir or some other controller in the 4" bays I personally think that's ugly as fuck.
>>109570216sorry. i don't listen to vibe niggers and usershitmark users.
i'm just going to wait for am7
>>109570335bro just wait for AM8, RAM prices will go down by then for sure
>>109570574>for surekek
Real Nvidia prices in 2026
>>109570709Too early to be neurotic, was 4300 just a week ago
prices are coming down right now. just wait.
>>109567633>make up claimsbother to back them up? I cannot find a single source backing up the idea that Ryzen has noticeably worse DPC latency.
>>109571007https://docs.google.com/document/d/1c2-lUJq74wuYK1WrA_bIvgb89dUN0sj8-hO3vqmrau4
>>109565543yeah
>>109571133you can't just say "yeah" with no context
What is your excuse for not buying an RX Pro 6000 when it was well within affordability? It debuted with pre-orders and early retail listings around $8,565 USD a year ago. Now the price has gone up from $12000 to $16000.
>>109571155I would've needed two to do anything cool with that card
>>109571146hell yeah
>>109571155>What is your excuse for not buying an RX Pro 6000 when it was well within affordability?4x 24gb 3090 could be had for ~3k.
>>109571131google's ai has been badly poisoned and can't be trusted I see
>>109571155I'd rather have a 5090 and 6090 and $1000+ in my pocket than an rtx6000 blackwell with no consumer use case
>>109571155usecase?
>>109571239it took it's answer probably from another usershitmark website
>building a new machine>atx board inside one of the ricey rectangular box glass cases>knew it was going to be a clearance shitshow but did it anyway>the bottom of the case has 140mm fans across it (times 3)>they're fucking riveted in, not even screwed in>most things clear with a bit of forethought, but the usb 3 frontpanel connector has like half an inch into the (irremovable) case fanAmazon had these shits for same day delivery so maybe I'm not hosed for the day and weekend. I feel disgusting doing that though, because I usually have a spare of any weird thing I need in a build. Is this a common problem now that USB 3.0 is standard and people like weird cases?
>>109568387>rx 7600this should be a $200 gpu don't bother with it at $300 even the shitty RX 9050 8GB benches better at $280>16gb ram from an old pc 2666mhzThe memory controller is the in cpu anyways, if your bios is up to date auto-overclocking this to 3200mhz is as easy as getting it to run at xmp speeds. >>109568490in my locale the 5500 is around €90 while the 5600 is around €130, €40 is a big price delta difference at this point and then there's also competion from the 4500 (arguably a much worse chip) at €70 and the 5500x3d (arguably a much better one) at €150. Also if you're not looking to upgrade to a x3d chip on the AM5 platform, LGA1700 is roughly the same in price/performance but they much less stingy with pcie 4 support and some boards even support pcie 5. >>109568913The motherboard i/o bracket can be a bitch sometimes, it won't break but sometimes the tabs will bend akwardly. also cpu coolers can get bent a little if you fuck around with the orientation to match the orientation of your case and want to change the fan orientation for some reason.>>109569197Your PC is going to start a little faster with nvme ssd it could maybe save 5 seconds off your boot time or something. You haven't talked about why you want a separate boot drive. In the olden days one of the main reasons to get a separate boot drive was because SSD storage was more expensive than HDD storage but the difference in boot times meant that it was efficient it to pair a small SSD with a larger HDD.>>109567219>$800 5070I think the 9070 GRE is $530 for comprable gaming performance. 'member when Jetson Chang said the 5070 gave you 4090 performance at $549 and everyone clapped? I 'member. >>109567709>H310M-DGS>i5-8400if there's an updated bios for your mbo you should be able to put a 9th gen i5 on a board like that. if you want to go for a big upgrade it's probably best to dump both your current motherboard and cpu and be platform agnostic.
>>109567219Get an atx3.1 850w psu if you want it to be somewhat futureproofed
>>109569046Another thing. My fan setup went from looking like this to this. Something else I noticed is that in my UEFI my case fans monitor the "system temperature" which doesn't go above 30 degrees under load so they're always running from 600-700 RPM. I set it to monitor the CPU and then all the fans ran faster and the CPU was running hotter. WTF? I'm thinking I must have screwed up the paste, I'll have to re-apply.
northbros?
>Intel says it will launch new core with Nova Lake on desktop first, not in data center — VP Robert Hallock hopes enthusiasts ‘do the math’ compared to AMDWill /g/ do the math or will we choose to be fleeced by amd?
>>109571748>Intel 8+16 bLLC ($600) + z990 lga1954 motherboard ($400)>Amd 10800x3d ($600) + am5 motherboard (paid)I did the math, amd is 40% cheaper for about the same performance
>>109571748i did the math and i still won't buy intel
>>109571748Intel is absolutely due a come back. As to if they'll manage it is yet to be seen. You're a retard if you have any loyalty to either company. Just buy what performs better at the shit you like, at the price you (or your parents) want to spend.
>>109571525nah just some cases designed by retards. My last case had no real clearance for USB 3 front panel as well with ATX and even worse with eATX despite compatibility being advertised yet it came with two plugs.
>>109571835>using a 4 year old motherboard with a brand new cpu. you're not the target audience, if you were better at math you wouldn't be poor.
>>109571748usecase for intel in 2026?
>>109571918>a socket a year keeps the goyim poorthank god I didn't buy a lga1851 1-gen socket motherboard
>>109572007
>>109572007And cheap.
>>109572068>>109572083now lets uncork the game from the gpu (you might want to buy a faste one after all)
>outperformed by a fucking 9600x while using 8800mhz ddr5
>>109572068>>109572083>cpu benchmark>1440p>alan wake 2 which is a path tracing title
>>109572088ALIYAH LAKE BTFO
>>109572088>8800mhz ddr5how much does that shit even cost now
>>109572130more than the cpu and mobo probably
>>109572134are you better than them?
>>109572111Well yeah. Chances are you're playing new games with your new hardware.
>>109572165no idea who any of these people are but it's sad if they got tricked into buying defective hardware
>>109572165how many games do even support 8k polling rate?
>>109572187pros that make a living from winning in games but you know better than them i guess>>109572198older games struggle. newer games are better but not perfect.
>>109572198all of them, it's not something the game needs to supportAMD USB controllers struggle with 8khz but that's a hardware problem>>109572205>pros that make a living from winning in gamesguess you're not allowed to have nice things if you have a real jobbetter downgrade to 1080p60 and a 6500 XT, i don't need more after all
>>109572218>placebo nigger loves intelshocker
>>109572226he is also a liar. forgot to mention that.
>>109572226i already said i downgraded, the human eye can't see more than 125hz polling ratecheck out my new gearworks great in solitaire and powerpoint
>>109572245yeah yeah. whatever. tell me about it when you win something with your fancy definitely not placebo gear. should be enough since it's so much better than what the pros are using.
>>109572183but its worse in newer games?
>>109572245>the human eye can't see more thanonly low iq retards, or poorfaggots coping about their poverty say this phrase. Get a job and buy something nicer, retard.
>Why yes, I use 8000hz polling rate on a 14900KYS, how could you tell?
>>109572344don't forget the optimized driversdebloated windows home8800mhz ramand hard stuck silver account
>>109572344that's €600000+ in cables btw
very funny how mad nicotroon gets at that topic because he's 20 so his CS rank is really important to him at the momentworks every timejust plug it in and stop worrying about it, another intel #win
>this grandpa still things he is better than themhahahaha. i've got a frictionless mousepad to sell you.
>5060ti 8gb: £359>5060ti 16gb: £589>5070: £650surely 8gb isnt that bad right bros...?
>>109572366>that's €600000+ in cables btwI sometimes wonder how expensive the production really is for this kind of shit
>>109571254Ai porn addiction
>>109572344this is how i felt having an x-fi soundblaster card back in 2006
>>109572416just buy used at this point. paying 360 bux for a 8gb gpu in 2026 is just a humiliation.
>>109572331>$300 processor is slightly worse than $500 processor.Yeah?
>>109571748Do I get>homogeneous cores ?>better / more memory channels ?>more pcie lanes ?>better efficiency ?>server tech like CXL ?
>>1095724168gb is real badIt's criminal to be selling them for anything above $200 in 2026
>>109572437nothing can make stalkerslop run good. that is the point. even at 90fps it feels like ass.
>>109572476Runs fine on my machine.But, I have a 9800X3D and a 5080.
>>109572476That's right, only novalake will be able to do a fixed 120hz Do the math
>>109572489you have some very low standards for "running good"
>>109572496100+ FPS at all times?
>>109572515>fps>in unrealslop
>>109572523I'm sorry you're having issues.Do you want help setting up your PC?
>>109571654I did look at AMD gpus, but I can't live without nvidia profile inspector after using an ancient nvidia card for so long and amd doesn't seem to have anything like that. So it's overpriced cards for me.>>109571663I initially had 1kw on there but eventually dropped it to 750w. 850w sounds like a good medium.Is the moba good or should I get a newer one to ensure compatibility with future cpus?
>>109571868Besides "it's always been done this way" which isn't even that true for USB, I wonder why the connectors for front panel are always on the bottom of the mainboard.I remember once, a long time around, breaking a header clean off the board because I was installing at the bottom of the case and I couldn't get around the connector horizontally.
Why is there such an intense predication on reusing a motherboard with AM5 when I rarely have any interest in reusing a board?The funny thing is alot of the people who talk about it aren't still on AM4 or are even using an 6XX board for that matter
what mobo should I get for am4 $100ish or less just want to get the best outta my cpu
>>109572731you don't understanda low-end B650 is an investmentit only increases in value as time goes on(or until the pins on the socket burn up)
>>109572731use case for upgrading a motherboard?
>>109572731AMD buyers are typically more budget conscious and don't like having to spend $300 on a new motherboard every 6 years.
>>109572731what does a b950 or whatever zen6 will be on offer me that a b650 doesn't?
>there are unironic "people" here that want you to waste money on a new motherboard rather than just slotting in a new cpu in your existing onethis board really is just the consoomer board
>>109570117>>109570128>>109570135>>109570183Yeah obviously I'm not talking about the chip fabrication and also you could potentially start to include CXMT as well now but we don't buy directly from them, we buy from resellers like GSkill, Corsair, Team Group, Kingston, Crucial etc.Who out of these guys makes the best stuff? Who is the premium choice and makes the best products. Some have multiple XMP profiles at different MHz, some have better heat spreaders and low profile optionsThat's what I'm trying to get at.
>>109572845>You want to spend money on new hardware that runs better?Yeah?
>>109572845last thread someone asked if they could build a pc from all asus or something.this is the goy thread>>109572853mobo doesn't make a difference to performance. stop listing to the ai.
>>109572845Is it not consumerist to buy a new CPU every year?
>"workstation" CPUs>none of them is capable of quad-channel or ECC
>>109572786higher memory speeds, better voltage regulation, more PCIe lanes, more I/O, better audio, faster networking, etc>>109572834nothing, B950 has been canceled because of your brave actions>>109572864>mobo doesn't make a difference to performanceyour B650 can't do DDR5-8000
>>109572877Can't afford 8000 anyways
>>109572877>your B650 can't do DDR5-8000why should a b650 have to do that? ryzen runs best at 6000mhz everything else is cope for much more money anyway.
the 64 gig kit I bought over a year ago cause comfyui was slow in certain cases with only 32.I love AI datacenters so much!
>>109572870It is. What isn't consumerist is upgrading from a 2700x (2018) to a 5800x3d (2022) on the same motherboard or a 7600x (2023) to a 10800x3d (2027) on the same motherboard.
>>109572864
>>109572872ECC is actually 100% supported and validated on W series Intel boards.Of course, then people piss and moan that you can't memory OC when the whole point is stability.
>>109572877>higher memory speedsusecase?>better voltage regulationusecase?>more PCIe lanesusecase?>more I/Ousecase?>better audiousecase?>faster networkingusecase?
>>109572902just run it on the gpu. how much more for those 3 seconds anyway?
>>109572887see that's a good and fair reasonno need to make excuses>>109572888>ryzen runs best at 6000mhzno it doesn'tthis dude's setup is 50% faster than yourshttps://www.youtube.com/@sugi0lover/videos>>109572912consider the macbook neo
this nigga really listed better audio as a reason to upgrade motherboard
>>109572920>using laggy USB audiolmao
>>109572919>no it doesn'ti remember when this guy used to run a 13th gen i9he doesn't play gameshe just benchmarks them
>>109572929>implying you'd notice the difference between audio codecs without a reviewer telling you
>>109572934literally nothing wrong with thathis setup is still two generations ahead of yours running 6000 EXPO
whoever called him a placebo nigger was right on the money, in any case if you were a real audiophile you would have a soundcard already
>>109572955Soundcard which would be shitted by AMD shit usb
>>109572919>no argument
I have a 6000MT/s CL36 ram, deal. with. it.
>>109572946>two generations aheadnigga upgrades his cpu every generation and runs ram that costs more than the cpu. why the fuck should i care. go be a cucksoomer somewhere else. >>109572955it was me and he uses ai. he was also wrong about the game not needing to support 8000mhz because old games do in fact not support that because they expect maximum 1000hz and would skip inputs.
>its actually the userbenchmark guy
>>109572970*hz not mhz
>>109572946what about your setup? or do you live vicariously through youtube benchmarkers?
>>109572955Real audiophiles use Microsoft affinity tool
Does dp 2.1 support matter at all on a monitor
>>109573006the picture looks better on dp 2.1 than it does on hdmidp 2.0 and hdmi are tied for quality tho
>>109572955PCIe sound cards are goodanything with a dedicated path for transferring audio samples is good, so HDA or PCIeshared buses like USB are out, if you care about latencybut i'm not a real audiophile so i don't care enough to get a dedicated sound card>>109572961LMAO>>109572964i wasn't arguing i was trying to help you>>109572965happy for you>>109572970>runs ram that costs more than the cpuyou can do 8000 on any hynix sticks as long as your motherboard can handle itterrible line of thinking, you don't need the best but that doesn't excuse bad purchasing decisions>why the fuck should i caredon't understand why you're considering upgrading your CPU when you don't care about performance>because old games do in fact not support that because they expect maximum 1000hz and would skip inputsgive three examples
>>109573022show some benchmarks 6000mhz vs 8000mhz on ryzen then
>>109573030what are you gonna do with that information? you can just try it yourself, right nowsee what your system does and look up what a system with DDR5-8000 does
>>109572917
been lurking the threads for my first build. how'd i do, how badly am i being assraped CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 4.7 GHz 8-Core Processor (£358.99)CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler (£53.00)Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING B650E-E WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard (£139.99) Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory (£339.98)Storage: Samsung 990 EVO Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 5.0 X2 NVME Solid State Drive (£269.00)Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 9070 XT 16 GB Video Card (£698.99) Case: Lian Li Vector V100R ATX Mid Tower Case (£69.95) Power Supply: MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£89.99) Total: £2019.89
>>109573080so you don't have any?
>>109573086>DDR5-6000 CL36
>>109573086>Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 9070 XT 16 GB Video Card (£698.99)Please for the love of god find a way to spend 170 more quid and get a 5070Ti.https://www.scan.co.uk/products/pny-nvidia-geforce-rtx-5070-ti-oc-16gb-gddr7-ray-tracing-graphics-card-8960-cores-tbc-boostAMD prices in the UK are higher than they have any reason to be so, so the gap between the 5070Ti and 9070XT is smaller than other markets, and there's absolutely no reason not to get a 5070Ti over a 9070XT.
>>109573137Oh! Hi, Jensen!
>>109573125i just found a good deal on some CL30 so i might go with that>>109573137is the shit about AMD chips sabotaging nvidia graphics cards real
>>109573022>PCIe sound cards are goodenduser sound cards are mediocre compared to a lot of USB DACs. Depending on your motherboards layout they can be worse than just using an USB slot that goes directly to your CPU. High end soundcards arent for your average ass gaming PC as they come with in- and outputs usually exclusively for studio audio gear.
>>109565543Hello faglordscurrently using a acer predator Orion 3000 P03 640 that came with a I5-12400F and 3060TI, upgraded it so it has 32gigs of DDR4 3200MHZ ram and a total of 8TB of storagei'm looking to get a new pc case and switch to a AM4 motherboard since i heard AMD released the 5800X3D again. the reason as to why i want to remain on the AM4/Intel equivs is due of the 32giggies of ram in this current economyOkay yeah for short i just wanna ship of theseus my pc
>>109573173>enduser sound cards are mediocre compared to a lot of USB DACssure, in terms of audio quality, but PCIe sound cards aren't adding 50ms of latency to compensate for USB packet scheduling, asynchronous clock domains, etcdepends on what you value more i suppose
>>109573166I doubt it, but I wouldn't trust any company in the current era of computer hardware to not do all sorts of bullshit. It's just not worth spending £170 less to miss out on DLSS, AI, better raster performance and non-gaming performance.
>>109573247on my board the second PCIe slot either leeches x8 gen 5 lanes from the primary slot or uses four gen 3 lanes to the second chipset. So I can either have the soundcard connected via both chipsets but no USB or USB directly to the CPU. Codec is connected to the second chipset via USB so it's the bad aspects of both. Of course this PC is for gaming, a real audio PC has other priorities.
>>109573298i agree USB is probably the best choice in your scenariosince realtek decided to be smart and downgrade their newest codecs to USB to save $0.02 per chip
Reddit told me I shouldn't buy a 5080 when they released because they were too expensive, but now they're even more expensive
What is a good value for money PC to play indie to AAA games on 1080p 120hz monitor? I know the market is not good at the moment. I have a normal ATX case which I think can fit most GPUs but my 650w gold PSU might need replacing if it can't run new cards. I don't upscale or use settings that give me fake frames or whatever. Budget is 4k€ Germany.
>>109573340reddit is terrible for financial decisions>someone makes a thread asking if they should get the 5060>"nah, waste of money, for a few dollars more you can get a 5070">someone makes a thread asking if they should get the 5070>>"nah, waste of money, for a few dollars more you can get a 5080">someone makes a thread asking if they should get the 5080>>"nah, waste of money, for a few dollars more you can get a 5090"
>>109573340>anons would recommend others back in 2025 to wait for the super release
>>109573343>plays video games>value for moneyDo a build around the Radeon RX 9070 XT.Use de.pcpartpicker.com
>>109573343>What is a good value for money PC to play indie to AAA games on 1080p 120hz monitor?a used stinkpad
Why do cultists continue to consider X3D processors the best for gaming when Intel processors have long since matched their gaming performance and are several times better at work tasks, at the same or even lower price?
>>1095734499070 XT is terrible value for money though.
>>109573472It's not a lie to say that AMD will be favored because from 2012-2016 was a VERY traumatic experience when Intel gave no reason for people to consume
>"well of course this game is going to run worse on your old hardware, it has much better graphics than that old stuff you play!">turn down graphics to minimum settings to cope>ends up looking objectively worse than those old games>still runs like shit
>>1095734856700K was fine.
Use the real thread now>>109565084>>109565084>>109565084
>>109573505This is PC building, not AMD building. Wrong general, retard.
>>109573505use the rea- ACK!
GIVE IT TO ME STRAIGHT AND ONCE AND FOR ALL ryzen 7 7800X3D or ryzen 7 9800X3D for PC I plan to build once and forget about for 10 years?
>>109573572Def wait for 12 core zen 6
>>109573589when they plan to release it?
>>109573602early 27
>>109572845>buy a 2026 5800x3d rerelease>it doesn't support pcie 5.0>older am4 boards don't even support pcie 4.0>doesn't support modern ram memoryok shill>>109572893>upgrading your cpu every 4 years isn't consumeristit is. a modern computer can easily last you 10 years. the only people who ought to upgrade their cpu that often are professionals who freelance. a jump from an althon apu to a ryzen changes what a pc can do, the jump from an earlier ryzen to a later one increases your clockspeeds. the more you buy the more you save. >>109573212You shitty pc probably has proprietary cables and connectors that only work with your Acer power supply and Acer motherboard and your case might not have the right standoff placements to properly mount a normal atx board. So I suggest you just go and have sex instead of dreaming of playing with your computer all day. >>109573340they're going to resell for $300 5 years from now and reviewers will complain about the "anemic" 16GB of Vram which is "an unacceptable amount for any card over $200".
I have a 3080, 5800x3d, and was originally going to build a new rtx 6xxx, am5 system, but it seems like this shit is going to continue getting shittier for the next like 3+ years. So now I'm thinking of just grabbing a 5080 now and running it for like a decade. Am I dooming too hard?
https://www.techpowerup.com/351297/amd-zen-6-to-improve-1-lows-and-in-game-stutteringzen 5 is planned obsolesce
>>109573624which is why i want to get a new motherboard and a new case and shit>have sexalready fucked once, dont need to do more
>>109573650>5080retard gpuyou either get a 5070ti or 9070xtleaning towards 9070xt because 5070ti is now 5080 retard pricing in lots of places
>>109573662>>109573662>>109573662
>>1095736503080 can struggle with some games at 4kcrimson desert has fucked visuals unless you turn on ray reconstruction which enables settings with more ray tracing and you need high end 50xx for that so yeah, if you can afford one it might be a good idea so you get better experience in games next 3 years
>>109569197>>109571654would it be effective then to use an nvme 4.0 500gb ssd as a boot drive for general applications and then a 5.0 4tb ssd for my video editing and storage? i wanted to keep them separate just in case of failure or anything. i just realize the 4.0 is gonna be slower, would it affect the 5.0 drive at all? what i’ll probably do is return my sata ssd and get the nvme as a boot drive. that’s what i’m leaning toward
>>109573663Is it? Cheapest 5070tis I can find are like 1150usd and 5080s are 1300usd. Seems pretty cheap for 15-20ish % perf.
>>109573715Its an AI bot thats been trained on old data, just ignore it.
>>109573709you're paying an extra $50 or whatever to have a slightly slower cumputter. It's nice to have a separate drive for your OS that allows you to do a clean install every time you have a problem without it risking your other files but you can just compartmentalize your nvme drive. the way to safeguard your data against failure is by mirroring it on different drives.
>>1095737155070ti = 9070xt, yet 9070xts are $600
>>109573715You are a retarded faggot that's double price for same perf.
>>109573881nvidia featureset isnt amd featureset
Idk if to post this hereI’m looking for an office chair for 70/30 relaxing/gaming. Problem is I don’t want one that forces me into an upright position but one that can if I so wish. Should be big enough for leg tucks~$500
>>109573343ryzen 5600xrtx 3070
>>109568328Depends on the value of the data. Ask yourself what is more expensive (time is money):A mirror drive or recovering the data in case of a loss?
>>109574403I got a temperpedic one thats pretty comfy
>>109573343>good value for money go X99 with used ecc ram in quad channel and get a 5700 or a 1080ti or something. >Budget is 4k€ if you want to max out your budget ... you're too poor for a 5090, so the next best thing is a 5080 and you'll have money to spare for a 270K/ryzen 9000 x3d, just look through the OP
There's to many gpus to choose from buying used around $250rtx 3070rx 7600rx 6600
>>109574794>rx 7600>rx 6600these have retailed new for around 220 eurodollars paying 250 for a well maintained or sparsely used 3070 is still ok if on the higher end of what you should par for something like that. I see stuff like 2070 go for 150 sometimes and given how old it is it shouldn't sell for much more.
