I've gotten a couple of thinkpad t14 gen 3 cheap, but they've got some white spots on the screen. If I switch to dark mode they're pretty much not noticeable, but at once there's a white background they get visible. So obviously not dead pixels. Anyone knows what it is? Is it damage to the screen or something else? Haven't really seen it before.

>>109575248
it's damage to the screen, yeah. one of my Thinkpads had that when I bought it too, I was planning on changing the panel when I bought it anyway and after the panel swap they were gone. I kept that damaged one as a spare just in case

Should I buy a second T480? It's cheap, and has more SSD space than mine.

>>109575248
Keyboard scratch.
This affects all laptops in general if you carry them in a filled backpack

>>109575371
Get it Anon.

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Saved these 3 from e-waste but they can't run Windows 11 officially, do I just bypass it on there or just put Ubuntu or Mint on and sell them as a much better Chromebook? I wanna clean these up real nice with another so-dimm and sell them locally so they can live on.

>>109575460
I’d probably just use windows 10 iot ltsc since it has security updates until 2032. Not entirely legal but buyers probably don’t care either way.

>>109576256
>Ships completely free of Cortana, pre-installed consumer games, Microsoft Store apps, and forced major feature updates
That's kinda based, I wanted an OS that wouldn't force the buyer to do anything like update which may fuck up the hacktivation or whatever, just browse and do basic everyday shit, thanks.

Had my third eBay ThinkPad die to motherboard problems today. X1 Yoga 3rd Gen. Am I just cursed, or is this a known issue?

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>>109575460

>>109576772
They're each a T470 with the older skylake i5-6200U but with the backlit keyboard and 1080p screen, I got em cheap, and I figured maybe $22-$25 per 8GB dimm for each of them to bring them to dual channel 16GB would be worth a clean up and install of Windows or Linux if I can sell them for maybe $150, I care more about keeping these out of the recycler or landfill than I do the money.

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My house, is filled with this crap

Shows up, in... bubble wrap

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>>109577583
God I love it when almost decade old laptops have their feet

Bought my third ThinkPad, and still haven't spent more than $400 in computers in my entire life

>>109578238
Based, thinkpads are so stupid powerful now that I think my next main computer is just gonna be a thinkpad hooked up to my monitor because I need so little graphics horsepower and it would be cool to rip everything out of the main computer, grab the AC adapter and bring it with me.

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Not sure why these chinkpada get little bright spots in the screen but it doesn't affect the screen and its still a gorgeous panel and its refurbishing nicely.

>>109577106

anon one stick memory heat 100% two stick 206%

>>109578385
But that 9.44% gain in geekbench with dual channel tho

anyone here has tinkered with advanced menu on newer chinkpads (xx90+)? if ME gets disabled in BIOS, will it enable itself back?

>>109578383
yeah same issue as here >>109575248
my quick fix was just enabling dark mode, then they pretty much turn invisible
if I had to guess it's because of damage to the panel from the backside of the screen or something, I can't really explain how it's because of the keyboard touching it
can't really complain because I paid very little for them, but it's more annoying than other faults I've found. worn keyboard and a little scratches don't bother me a lot, but stuff on the screen is a lot more bothersome. the keyboard scratches you don't really notice unless there's heavy sunlight on the screen

>>109575248
i've seen that before. it's likely one of the layers within the display panel. there are thin layers of substrate which filter the light source. they can get be damaged with heat. in the situation with spots, exposure to a concentrated heat source could have been the reason. typically it is not repairable, however with the proper equipment and determination anything is repairable.

>>109578630
I'm honestly thinking it's age and the conditions so it just happens, because my thinkpad has like no scuffs on the lid where someone would've been mean to it yet my other 1080P T470 is perfect, and then my main T470 IPS touch that encourages people poking the fucking screen has none of that either.

>>109578674
Maybe, I don't know the history of these thinkpads but otherwise they don't seem that worn and the batteries on them aren't that bad. I think the worst one was 80 percent battery health. The keys are a bit worn but nothing major. Though I managed to make it less noticeable with dark mode so it probably doesn't matter that much, but I hope it doesn't get worse.

>have a p14 gen4
>get a gen5 for work (one year newer)
>the keyboard is actually better and feels like it has more travel
Huh what the fuck, I was certain enshittification was always one-way

>>109575141
Thanks for the pape

how much worse is the E14 line ompared to T14 one and are they worse than ThinkBooks even latitudes for more than E14s

>>109579863
>ompared

>>109579863
e16 here but build quality's bout the same these days judging from the stuff i see here at work, only real difference being the keyboard baked into the chassis so it's not as serviceable.

thinkbooks... genuine consumer-grade stuff and no trackpoint, would avoid.

>>109579545
The keys might be snappier but the trackpoint is still as drift-happy as in G3-G4. Coming home to my L440 after a day of struggling on a T14 G5 is such a relief.

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>>109579545
>I was certain enshittification was always one-way
I was in shock too when my mom got a T14G5 to replace her work T480s, yeah the notch is a little strange, but it mogs my beloved T470 in every way, the speed, the 1920x1200 screen, the two RAM slots, it's thinner, etc.

It's like Lenovo is turning into Apple where they made an era of stuff people didn't like, but then if someone asked me "Anon what's the best MacBook Pro?" I'd have to tell them a brand new one because the best ones are being made right now.

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Is this X280 any good?

>>109581416
I haven't had it drift yet but I've only had it for a few days. Maybe that's one piece of technology they did lose.

>>109581473
Yeah. Mine has a 3k screen too, it's fucking nice.
The notch is very autistic (in a bad way) but hey at least they didn't actually make a notch in the screen itself (unlike fucking macbooks ahahahahahahaha).
They did however ROUND MY FUCKING SCREEN, which is absolutely insane on a laptop. I only notice it occasionally so I will learn to live with it but I cannot fathom the fucking decision for this. Pic related is a simulation in gimp at 400% scale - left is a screenshot of what my window manager is actually displaying, right is a recreation of what I see due to the bezel going OVER the LCD. Stunningly inane design.
But oh well I can live with it.

>>109581759
Just looked up pics holy shit it is rounded, that is the most unusual phone type shit I've ever seen

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>>109581759
>>109581798
Oh yeah I forgot to actually pic related fuck sorry. Pic related. But yeah

>>109581754
>Is this X280 any good?
That really depends on what you consider good. Personally I like durability, longevity and repairability.
>16GB of soldered RAM
Right now 16GB is average for smooth W11 operation. However it's completely soldered to the system board and has no open slots for upgrades. Running soldered DDR4 when 6 is around the corner isn't wise. It has one primary M.2 slot, which isn't as bad as soldered storage and would run fairly decently. If you need more storage in the future it would could be thoroughly extended as long as the key matches. You'd get 8th-generation (and select 7th-generation) Intel Core processors. As for the CPU, it's mid.

I'd suggest going with a P or T series. Even a ThinkPad P1 Gen 1 is going to have 8th gen CPU, two DDR4 SO-DIMM slots and two M.2 2280 slots for a fraction of the cost.

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>>109581824
God that's annoying, I try not to think about much screen real estate is being cut off at the corners on my Galaxy S26 because it would just piss me off on something that I just do basic shit with, but on my computer than I am at most of the time, that display or laptop is going out the fucking window.

It's just Lelnovo copying Apple again because they think it will gain customers, it's as if they never learned 11+ years after Rossmann made a bunch of autistic videos explaining that their chinky black durable brick shaped laptops that run windows could never in a million fucking years win over who wants a mac, especially when you consider Thinkpads themselves are not cheap devices, so if someone has the money for a new Thinkpad, they can afford a brand new MacBook air stop copying the design language, make the best thinkpads you can in a way that Apple could never could.

>>109581890
On a phone at least you don't have square UI with square window borders in the corners.
Nor on macs for that matter. That notch and those corners are horrendous and I hate touching macOS, but at least the way the titlebar works and the way window corners are displayed are specifically made to work around those issues. Unlike on a thinkpad that at best will be running stock Windows (even discounting autistic TWM users like myself).

>Lelnovo copying Apple
I'm not sure, the rounding is absolutely tiny compared to those massive cut-off corners on macs, and the outer bezel doesn't follow the same curve either. I looked it up and apparently it's only a think specifically the 3k screen (at least on the gen5), which sounds like they might have fucked up that screen specifically for no reason. Maybe they got a good OEM deal on a rounded panel for some reason?
No idea if newer gens got more rounding or not, that would indicate whether it was an intentional design choice or just random retardation from their part.

I have a dell inspiron 5720 what os should i put on it? i'm looking for a windows like experience.

>>109582209
Get Linux Mint with the cinnamon desktop on it Anon, it's the best Windows-like experience you're gonna have on an old laptop that is up to date, it'll probably run faster than any Windows that is shipped with.

>>109579545
Mine has creaky D panel every time I lift the laptop up from the left side. Is it normal?

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>>109578630
>>109578657
>>109578383
Seems like a screen defect that nust happens, my U2412M was plopped on this desk new 8 years ago and its now getting a bright spot.

>>109582824
Just happens*

>>109581754
X280 is just a T480s in 12 inch form factor, but ram is fully soldered. Unlike X270/X260/X250 which the base is T450/T460/T470. As someone who owned X280/X395 before and daily driving X270 right now, I suggest you to go for either X270 or X395. X280 is kinda the T490 of X series

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>>109583557
>NVME only
>soldered so-dimm
That's tragic how cucked a T490 is, the T470 and T480 were based with not only the RAM slots, but the 2.5 inch bay for whatever the fuck storage you want, 2.5'' SSD, slow ass hard drive if you like em big, an NVME, whatever.

yeah and I was a bit too harsh for X395 before. Indeed X395 footprint sucked ass, way too big for ultraportable. But it's much much easier to get the 16GB version and if you get the FHD IPS one, it's guaranteed 72% NTSC.

Essentially a cheaper T495s, dare I say best bang for bucks small pads right now if you don't care being stuck on 16GB of ram

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>arrived with it's keyboard not even fucking seated from being processed and banged around
>4GB Ramaxel stick instead of the 8GB Ramaxel stick Lenovo specced new on the serial
What recyclers gotta be so mean? Thankfully I have the 8GB factory so-dimm and thinkpads are durable and based and look gorgeous with a little blowing and isoprobyl, poor thing's lucky to even make it here with the 256GB NVME still in it.

>>109583756
why*

>>109583623
The worst part is they didn't have to do this even with the chassis shrink set in stone. The T495 with the same chassis wasn't nerfed nearly as badly.

>>109583756
I'm blessed with two recyclers so far forgetting to remove 2x16GB DIMMs and selling me the laptop for less than the DIMMs would get them. Feels good man.

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>>109585812
>selling me the laptop for less than the DIMMs would get them
Thats why its difficult for me to even get on the recyclers for scuffing up a laptop a little when we're lucky theyre even selling a complete unit for probably the same or less than parting it out, John from RDKL made a great video about how wasteful it is when recyclers take out the ram and drive because the fucking laptop itself isn't worth anything and it would cost as much or more to put ram and a drive back in to make it run again then a complete one is worth, he was talking about MacBooks but the same destruction goes on with the thinkpads, I've managed to get a good few T470 with drives and ram for $90-$108, but most listings are no ssd no ram and its still $60-$85, its very unfortunate becsuse I tried to list my broken keyboard but working toshiba ivy bridge with 16gb ddr3 for $100, nobody bought, but when I took it down and listed the WD SA510 SSD, someone offered me $68 in minutes, and the 16gb ddr3 1600 someone offered me $25 same day, and I sadly ended up taking what is left of it to best buy as e-waste because the entire machine and charger weren't worth anything.

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Have a sticker, Linux users. This is the NSFW version, gonna follow up with a pixelated SFW one. Tell me what you think.

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>>109586338

>>109586338
I'd rock it if the stupid coating on the lid of a chinkpad wasn't impossible to clean glue off of

>>109586352
Ever tried lighter fluid? That's what usually does the trick.

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Have another one for when you use Linus but don't like the Linux community

>>109586379
Literally me even with the Linux Thinkpad guys who need 6 gorillion stickers to let everyone know they're a linux user who is into anime (woah)

>>109575141
Should I get a T495 or an X395? Specs and price are identical.

worst possible place to ask but i didn’t want to make a thread for it. been considering a tablet lately but i haven’t figured out a use case for it yet. any tasks where it excels specifically, though?

>>109587963
I'd take the T to have expandable RAM, ethernet port and space for a secondary SSD

>>109587181
thankfully I'm not gay enough to put stickers on my 'nkpads

what is a good model to carry around to do writing and web browsing on?
quality keyboard is a top priority.

>>109589282
I like the keyboards of the T480s/T490/T14g1-2 era. Relatively low travel but my accuracy on them is as good as on the higher-travel T440-T460. You can choose from a couple of manufacturers with different feels: Sunrex for smooth and quiet, Liteon for firm and clicky, Chicony somewhere in between. As for the exact model, I would say T480s if you prefer a metal chassis or want to coreboot it, T14 G2 (or G1 AMD) if Skylake is too slow for you.

My second T480 arrives tomorrow ^-^

>>109591001
Based, those 15w quad cores rip if you can get the laptop for a good price

Anons my t460 doesn't charge anymore. Not sure if it's the port or the charging cable. I plug the fucking thing and nothing happens.
Should I bother fixing it or should I just cannibalize it and move on

>>109592165
It is possible your AC adapter, which is a power supply in itself has died, I once had that happen on a Toshiba in 2015, cause chinkpads are really good about not having charging port issues, it's literally a charging port mounted in the laptop's case, connected to the board by a wire, so you really can't break it by shoving a charging connector in real hard.

>>109592177
If I wiggle the connector it detects it for a few seconds sometimes. I will try getting a new charger I guess but I'm not spending more than $20 to get it running again

>>109592238
Yeah if a cheap charger doesn't fix it, look into getting a decently priced T480 or go straight to a Gen 2 T or P series laptop with the Zen 3 chip.

>>109592257
Thanks for the advice anon

>>109588606
reading, watching media and going through slides/pdfs. 2 in ones also do this

>>109592321
This, If you're working with nerd shit like schematics that I would not understand, the touch screen is amazing compared to fucking around with the trackpoint to move around or ctrl zooming instead of just pinching in and out.

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Based github, supplying me with actual Lelnovo recovery media to refurbish to factory

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>Get T480 with i7-8650U
>Even the touch display
>Give it some love, clean everything, 32GB.
>Fresh load of Arctic MX6
>stress-ng --cpu 8 --timeout 10m
>sensors
>All cores between 56 and 58°C (132 - 136°F) max
I love it when a plan comes together. And I love this boxy boi you wouldn't know

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>>109593181
Thats based anon, my crusty T470 could probably use a repaste since 2017 but its still only hitting 75c due to the fantastic thermal design, these boxy as fuck ultrabooks are pretty much the best laptops out there.

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>>109593189
This one is my pride and joy, the touch screen with 32GB

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>>109593189
>these boxy as fuck ultrabooks are pretty much the best laptops out there.
And the fucking best looking ones too if we're talking about semi-modern ones.
Nice hairy arms btw. masculine/10 - no homo tho.
I even spent some money and ordered me pic related. I wanna use the MOLLE straps to connect a pouch that contains my SDR stick and all the cable and antenna crap so I got a grab n go bag for when I wanna listen to the waves

>>109575141
posting from my t480 in the gentoo live environment while the kernel compiles

the dual pipe heat sink, 32gigger byte ram and 72wh external battery are marked delivered by uspscucks but haven't actually arrived yet but im getting things up and running for now

>>109593196
>This one is my pride and joy
I understand 100% what you mean. Same goes for my T480. I don't really know what it is but I really cherish that one. I got an AMD G1 I use for work and even though I use it much more than the 480 it's just a 'meh, work pc whatever' to me. Just like a daily driver that just needs to work.

>>109593224
>SDR
Damn you're practically me, I mess with 2M amateur radios when in the hills and always wanted to get into SDR on a laptop, my T470 lives off the wall but I think it still deserves its own bag to carry its adapter so I can just grab the bag and go when I need a laptop

Also
>8650u literally 70% more cpu performance than my 7300U
Jelly

>>109593244
It's something about that 1080P IPS screen that makes you love it even though these are older machines at this point, you start to realize why companies like apple despite shit specifications put such an emphasis on having a nice screen, because it just makes the experience so match better when the resolution is high and it's an IPS panel.

>>109593252
>my T470 lives off the wall but I think it still deserves its own bag to carry its adapter so I can just grab the bag and go when I need a laptop
I mean my T480 usually sits at home too. I got no real need for a bag/sleeve but then again: It's also a nice dust protection and when the need arises I just can grab it and know everything's inside so I don't have to search for an AC adapter or a 12v USB-PD adapter or whatever.

>Also
>8650u literally 70% more cpu performance than my 7300U
>Jelly
You wouldn't believe the sheer smoothness combined with the 32 gigs of RAM and Mint with XFCE.
By the way: Let GPT check if notebookcheck got free calibrated color profiles for your exact panel. I did that and WOW it sure makes a difference. So basically my screen is now calibrated without the need to to it manually

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>>109593279
>Mint with XFCE
Lmao same, they thought i was nuts for buying a cheap T470 to slam a bunch of memory in but for a dual core it doesn't struggle for everyday laptop shit, this is a better option than anything cheap from the store, even with 25% more cpu power those celeron 768p pieces of shit with their 4 or 8gb of ram will end up being slower than my T470 when the memory runs out which is easy these days.

>>109593299
LMAO nice!
>they thought i was nuts for buying a cheap T470 to slam a bunch of memory in but for a dual core it doesn't struggle for everyday laptop shit

Lemme tell you: I've been using the G1 (mind: 16gb) since February as a work laptop. Before that I used this Asus POS since 2017ish - but the model was designed in 2015 or so.
Read the stats:

Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-5005U CPU @ 2.00GHz 2.00 GHz
RAM 8,00 GB
238 GB SSD SanDisk SD9SB8W256G1002
Intel(R) HD Graphics 5500 (128 MB)

I used this sucker with dozens of open tabs, two external screens, ran fucking photoshop (CS6) on it. Trust me, after that experience every computer now feels like a racecar. So let people talk shit, T470 with fat memory is more than good enough as long as we're not talking about heavy shit like video editing etc.

>>109593344
>Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-5005U
Well what's funny is I had a Broadwell 5350u Macbook air that I had to buy because my sister's died out of nowhere and I had to drive swap recover everything, but then I had this stupid macbook air, found out T series had been based ultrabooks for a while, sold the air to get a T470 and have never been happier.

Basically I got back into business laptops for the first time in 11 years because apple sucks.

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>used ThinkPads

>>109593955
Good consooomer. Keep on buying brand new products even though you don't need their stats and they suck a hairy ass compared to older ThinkPads

>>109593344
>Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-5005U CPU @ 2.00GHz 2.00 GHz
>RAM 8,00 GB
>238 GB SSD SanDisk SD9SB8W256G1002
>Intel(R) HD Graphics 5500 (128 MB)
>I used this sucker with dozens of open tabs, two external screens, ran fucking photoshop (CS6) on it

Just out of curiosity: Are you into masochism in bed? Because it sure sounds like you are.

>>109593955
if it weren't for used ThinkPads, thousands of anons would be on used ThinkCentres. or worse.

>>109594002
Kek Q6600 swapped Optiplex 745 was my shit back in 2014

>>109594028
see what i mean? jajaja. the Q6600 is legendary.

>>109593181
not sure how you're doing it. I also have an i7 T480, dual heatpipe cooler (it has the Nvidia GPU, though I deactivated it entirely) and repasted (with Noctua NT-H2) and under load it can go to 70°C, perhaps a bit more depending on the load
that said it's still my comfiest machine, with my A485 not far behind
>>109593279
>>109593299
Xfcebros (on Artix for me)

>>109594210
>not sure how you're doing it
Me neither man. I just opened it up, gave it a good clean, did the paste and closed it up again. Then forgot about it for a couple of days and ran the test. Ran it twice because I was suprised about those numbers myself.
Perhaps it's just because the T480 is one cool motherfuckin' computer?^^
>Xfcebros
It's so awesome for when you don't need optical shenanigans and just want a clean, modern look. I wouldn't even consider using anything but Xfce at this point.

>>109594290
>It's so awesome for when you don't need optical shenanigans
So true, I wish it scaled a little better on my 14'' FHD screen but I just crank up the zoom to 120% on Firefox and we're good, it's worth not having necessary animations and crap being processed.

>>109594322
>necessary
Unnecessary

someone listed a unopened t14 gen 6 for 1500 bucks, should I offer 1000 for it? is 2100 new in my cunt

>>109594522
That's kind of a steal at 1500 lel, even slightly used or refurb it would be 1500

>>109594556
i just ordered a desktop pc for 3000 so dont really want to spend another 1500 rn
but maybe for 1000 since it would be half price
dont really need one either, i got a x13 gen 2 which is fine desu

>>109594522
If it's the AMD variant, maybe the mediaKEK wlan card on it keeps dropping connection.

>>109594641
you mean the intel wifi card sucks, or does the amd card suck?

>>109594641
T14s gen 6 AMD has a soldered in quectel card (that's qualcomm):
c2:00.0 Network controller: Qualcomm Technologies, Inc WCN785x Wi-Fi 7(802.11be) 320MHz 2x2 [FastConnect 7800] (rev 01)
The only issue I experience with it is it taking a couple seconds more than intel cards to connect to a wifi network after resuming from a suspend.

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>>109594322
yippie ky yay man

okay I bought a thinkpad
now what

>>109595891
anime

>>109577594
God I love it when almost three decades old Anons post their feet

replaced enough parts on my t480 that i've slowly accumulated the bits and bobs for a potential second t480, but ddr4 prices being retarded too is dissuading me hard. not that i know what i'll need a 4th laptop for to begin with...

T480bros, do you use throttlestop?
If so, what are your settings?

>tfw fell for the X series meme instead of the T

>>109596277
Which one do you have? I went from a T to an X and liked both

>>109575141
what do i do if i stripped the screws of my t14g2?
yes i know i am retarded

>>109596550
Try the rubberband trick.

>>109596328
x13 g2

>>109595398
>2GB Geforce graphics
Goddamn that thing is tricked out

>>109589282
T500

>>109596182
>throttlestop
>performance tuning on the most anti-performance os there is
seems legit

but here's my throttled config
>battery
PL1 5, PL2 12, trip temp 64
>ac
PL1 30, PL2 44, trip temp 85
>undervolt
core/cache -96, gpu -55, uncore -25

should I buy a WWAN 4G card and a data sim for my ThinkPad

I'm pretty sad lads,

Pretty sure my T14s gen1 AMD which got me through my PhD is fully dead. I was alllowed to pick my laptop back when I started it and was like if I am going to have 1 laptop to get me through a degree it's probably going to be a ThinkPad. I spilled tea on it back in the final weeks of my thesis writing and slowly the keyboard started to die.

I tried replacing the keyboard but now no longer turns on tried everything I can which my very limited skill set so I think it's fucked. It's pretty sad to see it go to be honest i spent so much time on that thing.


Thinking about looking for a replacement, I only have a windows work laptop. I mostly used linux through the PhD and it's been a little while i do miss it I am pretty sure I've forgotten most of what I used to know.

I am thinking of starting to hunt around for a t14 gen2.

>still using x86 / amd64 in the big 2026
oh no no no

>>109598237
>he doesn't have multiple thinkpads already

>>109598264
I have an x220 as well in a drawer somewhere, does that count ?

>>109598291
Wtf whip it out Anon

>>109598380
+1 on that
I use a T60 cuz 4:3 and between waiting for a t14 gen 2 to show itself for cheap and a x220, I'd pick the x220
old tech holds up if you're not a nigger about it

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>>109575141
i think i am the only one who uses a 2012 thinkpad in 2026

people moved on to modern computers because of gaming

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>>109598752
Ivy bridge is still based as shit, I was using a broken ass Toshiba Satellite with i5 3380M and a T9550 Core 2 as my laptops, I only upgraded due to unexpected shit happening and newer stuff falling into my lap but Ivy with 16GB still does fine on Linux Mint.

anyone here actually have a LTE card installed?
costs 10 buckaroos on ebay

>>109598878
I don't know shit about cellular stuff but I'd rather just wifi tether the phone, at least your phone is regularly replaced and updooted with the latest connectivity but LTE thinkpads stay on LTE

>>109598878
my X12 Tablet has it, but in the end I'd rather use a WIFI from my phone outside

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Dear /g/,

Should I drop €280 on a refurbed T14 Gen 1 AMD in good condition with 8 GB RAM, 256 GB SSD and 1 year warranty? (That's around €100 below the average price in my country if we exclude randos on eBay with cooties and no chamber of commerce registration.)

I already have two newer pads that will last me another 5+ years. This is just a side project to see if I can salvage another 8 GB RAM and a 512 GB SSD from my dead T495. If that doesn't work out, I might spend another €150 on new components.
Use case is distrohopping, anime and retro/emulated/indie games, sometimes on battery, but most of the time on charger with one or two external monitors. (This thing apparently doesn't have Thunderbolt 3, but neither did my T495 and that could power my two 1440p monitors just fine.)

Is this still a normal hobby purchase or am I losing it?

>>109599578
It's not stupid, I bought another whole ass thinkpad just so the spare 8GB DDR4 SO-DIMM left over from upgrading could have somewhere to live and give dual channel to a thinkpad.

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>>109598752
not exactly thinkpad, but I'm here with you ivy bro even though It's not the main anymore...but still gets used daily.

>>109598752
T420 from 2011 here
I bought it used, swapped in a new SSD, installed Devuan. Solid device

>>109598878
I installed one in my p15 gen 2. It's nice if you travel a lot with your laptop, and it gets better signal than my phone

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For me, it's the $2,415 T470

>>109598604
>old tech holds up if you're not a nigger about it
/tpg/ in a nutshell

The T480 overheats like crazy, can't even fucking repaste it because I can't unscrew the screws above the cpu, they were screwed in by a fucking Nephilim giant or something, I was memed into buying a laptop that overheats and stutter with basic youtube videos, fucking travesty

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Loving my T460p so far, sure 100 bucks is a bit too pricey but it is what it is in post rampocalypse world. Can't com[plain much since I got it in near mint condition. 6440HQ ain't that bad for light daily driving and build quality wise it's better than T480.

>>109600260
How much RAM you got Anon? My mom's T480s fan would screen as she did her job and lag but it only had 8GB of RAM on a bloated ass Windows 10 so if course it's a shit experience.

>>109600304
>$100 and it has a skylake quad
That's not pricey at all anon, I've been buying $90-$108 T470 laptops because they're such lovely ultrabooks and they're 37% less CPU performance than you got

>>109600316
>screen
scream*

>>109600316
what surprises me the most is the impressive cooling of T460p. Rarely goes over 40 on youtube. I suspect that because it has the same heatsink as the discrete Nvidia one while mine having none of it, kek

>>109600359
Yeah the descrete GPU ads so much heat to laptops it's retarded, I don't even know why companies even bother, if you're wanting graphical shit, get a desktop, it's just more heat, more power used, needs a bigger AC adapter for no reason, etc.

I have an x220 sitting around collecting dust.
Are there any interesting things I can do with it? Already have a home server so don't suggest that.
Or should I just sell it? These are surprisingly going for a lot more than I expected on ebay

>>109600626
Yes Anon, either use it as a Linux laptop or send it to the eBay auction for someone who will use it, it's the perfect time to sell a classical Sandy Bridge thinkpad because social media has got people acting retarded and are willing to pay as much or more for an X220/T420/T520 than a 15w newer thinkpad that smokes it because it has the blue enter key.

>>109600108
>look up serial
>literally a single 16GB stick
Thanks lenovo, only slows this $1899 computer down by almost 10%

>>109599578
Make double sure it's a T14 and not a T14s otherwise you are stuck at 8gb forever because soldered ram and no DIMM slot. I have a gen1 T14 AMD and it's very comfy, 6 cores 12 threads on a 7w TDP.

>>109575141
Semi-score: got Thinkpad 701C , the active-matrix TFT with the butterfly keyboard, which feels good and opens/closes perfectly

However, the battery is fully corroded, white powder inside the battery door and no way to pull it out - do I put a long screw into the battery contents and then pull it out? Can I disassemble other parts of the case and then remove the battery?

>>109600626
Libreboot it, install Gentoo to it, wipe your ass on it, and sell it. Don't forget to wipe your ass on it.

If you can't be assed to do the former two, at the very least flash a retarded looking BIOS splash image (like goaste) so you at least slightly inconvenience whoever you sell it to.

>>109596915
Yeah that was a bad move playa. I love my x1 yoga other than the aspect ratio and mid battery life. I wish they had 16:10 when I bought mine

>>109598119
Yeah. I guess whoever bought it back then filled all the option checkmarks possible. Even has the fingerprint sensor and the fat battery...
And since it's in such a neat condition, I really really love it. I don't even do that much stuff on it but even just doing some banking or stuff like that gives me a warm fuzzy feeling.

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I'm excited /tpg/. My X210Ai has shipped which means I'll get to upgrade from my Thinkpad 25 pretty soon. I've come a long way from dailying an X230 salvaged from two for-parts-only units in college a decade ago.

>>109601523
>X210Ai
Based, that's amazing they got dual 2280s and a 2.5 inch in that little ass sub notebook

>>109601540
Definitely the most ambitious frankenpad ever. Thanks to all those drive slots I'm about to have an Ultra9 185H machine with 10 TB of storage, 128 gigs of ram, a 3000x2000 display, and the most practical keyboard layout ever used in laptops. This thing should comfortably handle the next decade and on.

>>109601566
It really is insane, I remember then those T60s with the nice Penryn 6MB swaps were nice, but that was just a board swap, the AX210Ai is what I would refer to as beautifully jank the way they got this modern io on there lel.

>>109601566
>I'm about to have an Ultra9 185H machine with 10 TB of storage, 128 gigs of ram, a 3000x2000 display
What an absolute unit in such a small package. Kinda jelly here but I don't really have a use case (i.e. excuse to buy one) for one...

>>109600260
If nothing else helps, WD40? If it's stuttering on YT videos it direly needs paste.

REAL THREAD IS UP

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>>109600260
Option 1: apply a lot of pressure from both sides and try to not break the board
Option 2: get sacrificial screwdrivers, clean their tips with 99% isopropyl alcohol, same with the screw drives (that little hole where you put in the screwdriver), wait for them to dry out a little, apply a very small smudge of superglue in the screw drive then insert your screwdriver with a bit of force to make sure it stays stable while the superglue solidifies, then unscrew while maintaining pressure to not snap the plastic; you could save the screwdrivers and clean them for later, but I usually buy ultra cheapo ones in packs of x50 just for such events and throw them away.

There is the option 3 to migweld the screw head completely to an L-shaped stick, but I doubt that you're a welder.

>>109600304
>>109600316

And here I am paying $80 - $100 for Txx(p) and Xxx(t) models for spare parts. EU flea market SUCKS BALLS.

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>>109595398
I have the i7/Nvidia version too, but I disabled the Nvidia GPU. udev rules + blacklisting the driver does the trick

>>109603167
>but I disabled the Nvidia GPU
Why tho? Just to save battery power or is there more behind it?

>>109603193
to save battery and because I honestly don't really have a use for it. when I bought it the listing didn't mention a dGPU anywhere so I thought it wouldn't have it kek

>>109603341
Gotcha. Well I'm more of a 'better have it than need it' kind of guy so I don't change nothing here. DESU I don't have a real need for both the 32 gigs and the 8650U but it's nice to have them

>>109603371
if I ever need it I can just remove the rules/blacklist and use it, so for now I don't really mind. the couple games I sometimes play on it run fine on the Intel GPU

>>109603371
>>109603428 (me)
I found this which could make me get the better of both worlds: https://github.com/pedro00dk/nvidia-exec
I'll give it a try later, I'll need to write a service file for it since I'm on Artix

>>109600260
Take it to a machine shop. They're used to dealing with that kind of thing and can extract them or carefully drill off the heads and extract the stems.

>>109603524 (me again)
oh yeah that works pretty well. stays completely disabled until I run something with "nvx start program". I'll keep it like that, that's pretty neat

Booomp

Is the plastic in thinkpads laced with estrogen?

>>109606333
Yes. Buy Applemacs. NOW.

Second-hand P15 Gen 1:
>Intel Core i7-10850H
>NVIDIA Quadro RTX 3000 6GB
>64 GB RAM
>1 TB SSD
>No issues, just some scratches
>785 USD, but I can try to ask for less
Is it a good deal? For a long time I wanted to find a good replacement for my ideapad gaming 3.

>>109608342
That's a beast Anon yeah it's not cheap but 64GB is a lot, the SSD is dummy large, I'm not even sure if you can ask less.

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>>109609402
Chinkpads laced with those space age materials

Kek even the cucked T470s with Skylake and only 8GB RAM usable in dual channel sill pretty good at light gaymen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IB0UorQko6A

What do you guys think about using some phase change sheet like thermal grizzly ptm on a t14. Worth the hassle or should I just go with mx6

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I wanted to get T480 but all the prices are fucked because of all the buzz about chinkpads.
Would its direct competitor from Dell (Latitude 5490) be a good substitute? It's of the same generation, has all the same upgrading capabilities and just as thick and robust looking as T480.

>>109610029
Yes Anon, nothing nothing wrong with a Dell Latitude, I started out on one back when Core 2 duo ones were the $100ish laptop and it was fine, a 5.5 brick of a machine back then and I still have it.

>>109609407
That's 20 years ago.
ISS is currently sending whatever latest HP Zbook workstation to space.

>>109610037
I rode four latitudes to death at work and honestly I don't recommend them. Swollen batteries, mobo failing, I never had an issue like that with any of my thinkpads

>>109610173
Shame, I hope if Elon's goofy ass uses H1Bs to get us to Mars that the first laptop there has a fucking trackpoint.

>>109610029
Get a latitude 5400, the one with trackpoint. Dare I say it's better than both T480 and T490. Has 2 sodimm slots, 3 usb A and one thunderbolt with dedicated barrel charging port. Most of them got FHD IPS screen too.

>>109610213
Latitudes are kinda based sometimes, I remember my E6400 FN and left arrow would make the screen brightness auto adjust with a light sensor on the lid, which I don't even think its thinkpad competitor T400 had, you could even get a backlit keyboard in the Latitude E6400 and the T400 didn't, took lenovo some time to get on the ball with that.

>>109610249
Also the Latitude E6400 will burn your eyes out with 297 nits when you crank it, T470 that came out 9 years later? 220 nits.

They're both special to me though

>>109610249
5400 is kinda weird generation where the entire lineup (7300/7400/5300/5400) absolutely mogged the shit out of thinkpad counterparts (T490/T490s/X390). It was kinda impressed how dell manage to make a 13 inch ultrabook (7300) smaller than X390 with not just one but 2 sodimm slots. I daily drove it for almost 2 years till late 2025.

I don't recommend modern latitude tho, anything from 5420 onwards are garbage. Even HP Elitebooks are better.

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>>109610279
Old latitude really was the shit, I found my baby, the hinge has some play I don't know how to fix, probably from being dropped on carpet but it's not flopping shut and it still looks nice after all this time.

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i don't wanna buy another new keyboard...

>>109583756
Please don't tell me it's the union memory garbage they keep in these. Supposedly these keep failing on people and are trash tier.
>>109583623
If the 2.5" bay had a beefy cooler for the SSDs and a way to put two of them in, without cucked interfaces like the T480, it would be defensible, but as is I prefer an m.2 slot and going nvme only. 2.5" bays are just wasted space otherwise. If you want big slow storage, just put it in a NAS.

>>109610279
The Latitude 5420 I was issued by my employer hasn't had any hardware issues in 5 years. The touchpad and keyboard aren't particularly nice, but I use it in a dock anyway. Used they are now one of the cheapest non-trash laptops with an Intel 11th gen CPU, which is a noticeable upgrade from 8th-10th gen in single threaded and iGPU performance. I got a Latitude 5420 with an i5 1135g7 (without RAM and SSD) for $85 on eBay last week to replace a relative's dead T460. Even with 8 to 12GB RAM and a 256GB SSD they can be had under $120 all the time.

>>109610496
i'd have bought that a new bezel a long time ago too wth man.

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>>109610677
>hey keep in these
If we're talking SSD, it's got the SK Hynix NVME, I've gotten lucky because my first T470 had a Samsung 256GB nvme as the oem, fingers crossed about the Ramaxel 8GB DIMMs in my other ones.

>>109610700
the motherboard itself is fine, but the build quality of 5420 is an absolute trash
https://www.dell.com/community/en/conversations/latitude/laptops-peeling-paint-and-keys-falling-apart/65d5fa52b595411ad6cdf859

peeled body paint
peeled keyboard paint
plastic hinges
shit keyboard
no trackpoint option
and so on

I've had my hands on both 5420 and 5320, it genuinely feels like Inspiron stuff under latitude brand. The 5400 generation were the last good Latitudes

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>>109610279
>Even HP Elitebooks are better.
So Elitebooks aren't that good? I mean, their Ryzen models (745 G6 and 845 G7) seem like decent choices - metal chassis, sleek design, webcam shroud, ease of maintenance and upgrading, better price to performance ratio compared to T495/T14g1. Or is there something wrong about them that I'm not aware of?

>>109610212
>if Elon's goofy ass uses H1Bs to get us to Mars
They'd have Apple logos and failure-prone keyboards, saar, H1Bs love Macs solely for the clout.

>>109610700
Yes anon the 5420's are pretty good. I think a lot more of them hit corporate america so they can be had for pretty cheap here and I like them, mine tends to run a lot cooler than my T14's. They can take 60wH batteries which gives you a bit more battery than the T series (except the Gen7). You also get two DIMM slots and no soldered ram which is also comfy. These Tiger Lake's are great as they have AV1 decode on hardware so watching youtube and other stuff only loads your CPU 3 or 4% and greatly extends battery life.

>>109612221
Kek imagine the problems with the shitty computers and slopware when they do get to mars, can't even do a fucking flyby of the moon without some Microsoft crap messing up

>>109610496
Jesus Anon, I'm all about using thinkpads for work, but what the hell did you do with this thing?

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>>109575141
Got my W541, swapped parts over from my T540p, re-pasted it and I love it. Just one thing, it still runs fucking hot. Yeah sure I know a quad core Haswell runs hot, but I didn't expect it idle at 70°C.

Is PTM7950 a good idea for a W541? Should I also undervolt the CPU / GPU?

>>109614333
disable cpu turbo boost
disable multithreading
will idle at 45

>>109614333
Forgot: Where do I even get PTM7950 without being scammed? Should ship to Germany.

>>109614350
I'll test real quick and report back.

>>109614363
>I'll test
multithreading: called 'hyperthreading' in bios

turbo boost: you just cap the max cpu at 99% in either windows power management or linux governor, and it wont go full retard anymore

>>109614392
Kek not him but I wish my chinkpad would go full retard with the turbo like some laptops, it just bounces around maybe 200mhz over the stock and then back to stock, and the turbo is on, it goes to 3.5GHz single core so it's working, it's just a bum turbo lol

>>109613281
>Kek imagine the problems with the shitty computers and slopware when they do get to mars, can't even do a fucking flyby of the moon without some Microsoft crap messing up
3rd world unemployment-fueled fantasy lore is quite something.

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>>109614392
>multithreading: called 'hyperthreading' in bios
I know
>turbo boost
Already disabled it in bios though.
>linux governor

$ cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor
schedutil

… well ... I could do the funniest thing right now.

Anyways, everything off, it still sits at 70°c at idle. I think I'll go find some PTM7950.

>>109614408
My T540p was like that.

>>109614471
>Anyways, everything off, it still sits at 70°c at idle.
you are doing something wrong. what is the powertop status?

>>109614471
>My T540p was like that.
Ok good, I thought my T470 was fucking broken, or maybe it needed working batteries to get full speed, but as a workhorse machine I'm glad Lenovo set it up to just be a 15W computer that you can beat the fuck out of all day long because the fan is barely even audible when you're maxing the CPU out, I love it.

>>109614333
Undervolting definitely won't hurt. -80 mV should be safe on any Haswell. You could also mess around with GPU drivers or ways to disable the GPU, and try some of the "tunables" in powertop.

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Do these specs still hold up in 2026 or should I go for something newer like a T480? Might be hard to afford since I have no job or life desu

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>>109614542
You've got a beast Anon, I wouldn't upgrade to anything less than an 8 core ryzen if you are looking to spend money (T480 is outdated quad core even though it's a good laptop), and I wouldn't even spend anything at all unless your Haswell laptop broke or became unusable, I think you should max that T440p out to 16GB RAM and keep sending it.

I use one on the right and it's still fine at handling my daily use if I'm ever away from the desktop.

>>109614542
>Do 4C8T still hold up in 2026 or should I go for something newer like 4C8T

>>109614576
kek

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>>109614491
>you are doing something wrong.
Most probably. I think I screwed around with a lot of settings to get the 4200m inside the T540p to become a little livelier. And of course I swapped the same SSD over because I'm a lazy and cheap dickhead (but to be fair it's a 1TB Evo 870 and I've got like 4 years of stuff on it that I don't want to sort through).
>what is the powertop status?
Never used powertop, what exactly am I looking for?

Summary: 360.1 wakeups/second, 0.0 GPU ops/seconds, 0.0 VFS ops/sec and 15.2% CPU use

Meanwhile the idle has settled to around 56°C which is still too high for my taste, but as soon as I start Firefox it jumps back to 70°C.
>>109614521
>Undervolting definitely won't hurt. -80 mV should be safe on any Haswell.
How do I do that on Linux?
>You could also mess around with GPU drivers or ways to disable the GPU
Actually I want to use nvidia optimus.
>and try some of the "tunables" in powertop.
I'll have to get into powertop it seems.

>>109614518
Forgot to reply in last post; yeah if it's a 15W it's normal.
Try plugging it in or look into your BIOS, mine also doesn't go full retard when running on battery.

>>109614635
Mine is plugged in and it only seems to operate within 15w it's kinda based because my old Macbook air would just run at 100C all the time when it was doing stuff and that's probably horrible for the chip to be using 25W in the thinnest fucking computer you've ever seen in your life with fuck all for ventilation or a cooling system for that matter, it's no wonder I had one die, Once again god bless Lenovo and their boxy ultrabooks with their heatpipe cooling and holes in the bottom (what a concept).

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I was thinking about trying a newer elitebook, but there are so many dented/deformed on ebay that I'm not sure. My 2570p is built like a tank

>>109614972
Get a coffee lake Eliteboook or Latitude Anon, pretty much anything but a coffee lake thinkpad is downright reasonable on the used market if you're in the market for a good 15w quad core laptop.

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>>109614620
Why did you get this thing? It doesn't even have the nice keyboard or a 3:4 screen. It's just a very bulky, outdated workstation.

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>>109614620
Fucker keeps freezing to death.
I'll just get something else. Haswell was fun, but I'll cut my losses here.

>>109615103
>Why did you get this thing?
Because it was 170€ and I always wanted one ever since I first saw the T540p in 2014 as a teenager.
>It doesn't even have the nice keyboard
It's not as nice as the 7 row of my T500
>or a 3:4 screen.
Imagine not choosing Gods aspect ratio 16:10
>It's just a very bulky, outdated workstation.
Like my dick, doesn't stop your mom from hopping on it.

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>>109615861
D-does anyone know which different thicknesses of thermal pads I need for a W541?

Can I just get this https://www.amazon.de/en/gp/product/B0BBTVN8SD or do I need some specialty size like 2 or even 3mm?
Should I go maximum autism and get these? https://www.amazon.de/dp/B0FZV47ZNR

Also still haven't found any PTM7950 that doesn't scream scam on amazon.

>>109615103
Kinda crazy how Haslel Thinkpads went from being worst thinkpad due to horrible keyboard and trackpad changes in 2014 to something that guys are paying absurd amounts of money to not only buy, but to then upgrade compared to just buying a quad or even 8 core laptop that's newer and uses less energy, and wouldn't need upgrades to be good enough to use.

hey. I need something cheap to continue working on my game sprites in gimp 2.10 while smoking cigars outside. what are my options?

>>109617152
Good deal Anon, look for anything with a 14nm processor in it or newer, such as T460 T470, if you can get it reasonably priced, a T480, much older laptops than Intel 14nm ones would do the job when it comes to basic use, but the problem is they're often similarly priced as a 14nm one, so only get something older than a 6th gen Intel if it's significantly cheaper than a T460 and beyond.

>>109617220
where do I look for these other than ebay?

>>109617539
Likely e-waste recycling centers, often times that's how they get to eBay, you get some e-cyclers who see a chinkpad that isn't destroyed and think, "hmm, maybe this should live" and they sell it with or without RAM or an SSD for a low price, and then people who want them get them and make a really nice cheap laptop for themselves.

>>109617152
Get a 2-in-1, they come with styluses, perfect for holding while sitting on your porch while smoking a fat one.

>>109616445
They're goated devices though.

>>109611785
some hit and miss. from hashwell to coffee lake 840 build quality was worse than Thinkpad and Latitude. But I daily drove 2570p and 835 G8 before, it was indeed built like a tank. Bear in mind Elitebook display are mostly 45% NTSC, even the IPS one. Also the single pipe heatsink for AMD ones are pretty weak.

>>109618344
Weed is for niggers.

>>109620467
based and redpilled

Are the touchscreen thinkpads any good? Planning to use one for drawing. How do they compare to regular tablets?

>>109622172
>How do they compare to regular tablets?
You mean iPad-style tablets or Wacom-style drawing tablets with a screen?

Either way, Thinkpads' touchscreen quality depends on the series and the model. From what I remember, X1 Carbons usually have good touchscreens. The T series has a more mixed track record. My T450's touch panel was pretty decent for its time, but my T495 had a dimmer one with only around 60% sRGB coverage.

Many reviews on notebookcheck.net will list all the possible screen options a given model can have. You can also look up that model's display FRUs (looks like this: 01YN154) on https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/ , paste them into search engine to find sales that list that panel's EDID (looks like this: AUO B140HAN05.7), and then paste the EDID back into a search engine with site:notebookcheck.net to find reviews of other laptops with that screen.
If you're buying used, most sellers won't list the exact screen you're getting, but many models only have one touchscreen option, so it's still worth looking up if that one is any good.

>>109617560
so the dump?

>>109622843
Essentially anon, I think its unfair to call a ThinkPad that boots and is usable waste but that's unfortunately the case

>>109622948
Not all that glimmers can be appreciated by the blind, but some of it can be turned into gold to make the blind jealous

>>109575141
I have a t580 and I wanted more ram for it so I ordered 2x16
But I was retarded and bought 3200mhz when it caps out at 2400mhz cause I was just checking for what was cheapest
It's Samsung ram it should just downclock right or is my computer retarded
It is librebooted so idk if that's an issue

>>109623433
It'll run at 2400 Anon, the chip's memory controller does what it can do when it comes to speed.

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Use case for ugly, oversized laptops with offset keyboards?

>>109626041
Probably as a desktop replacement that you occasionally take with you and only use on a table, but that's it, as much as I hate the numpad, I am hard for the P16 with the 16:10 screen.

>>109626041
I've often seen them on engineers and such who might need to lug their desktop replacement around in production. Or sitting on some dirty table in a pile of various pieces of machinery.
So for actually working with cad and stuff.

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>>109626041
comes in handy for excel and special characters but otherwise yea it throws off my muscle memory at times.

I just bought a second hand x13 yoga gen that was used as a work pc.
>13th gen i7
How fucked am i?

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>>109620467
I wasn't talking about weed, I was talking about cigars.
Tells more about you than me that you associate "a fat one" with weed instead of a cigar.

>>109626041
Can't use blender effectively without a numpad.
Can't work spreadsheets or anything that needs regular numbers input without a numpad without becoming a hassle
Can't play some games without a numpad.

A laptop with a numpad is for the civilized man, a laptop without a numpad is for children and women scrooooling.

I got an R50e, but it's an absolute pain in the ass to get info on it. Does anyone have any docs on it? What OS can I even run on it that wouldn't catch on fire and kill itself if it were connected to the net? Are there any IDE-SATA adapters that could get it booting from an SSD?

>>109626889
probably needs a repaste but should be fine

>>109627312
Cigars are for mobsters.

anyone here ever bought a new thinkpad

>>109629318
Never, and my work stinkpad from 2025 confirms that I'm not missing out

>>109627342
I used Antix linux with my T42, was basically plug and play. But I moved to another distro after that.
Yes there's plenty IDE adapters on ebay, but it runs fine on an HDD too, IMO.

>>109575141
Hai hai hello is asking to be spoonfed allowed? I'll ask away anyways. I'll be going for a foreign semester next year and thought about buying myself a used Thinkpad so I got something to use while there. All I've got is a really old kinda shitty HP Laptop (for reference of how old, its using 8GB ddr3) running Debian/Win10 dual boot and a semi-oldish "Gaming Laptop" (at least it's portable waow). I don't wanna take either abroad, the former because I don't wanna get clowned for using an "old laptop" (it works fine honestly it makes weird noises sometimes but it does the job...) and the latter because it's not actually a good solution for a portable device.. (in hindsight not the smartest buy but alas).
Ok anyways I just wanted to ask a few things, what price range are you usually looking for? where are you looking? And what is libreboot/other bios replacements for? Do you guys do it because of some privacy promise or to get rid of shitty business laptop's BIOS passwords etc? I heard some people dislike the default BIOS because of alleged backdoors but also I think getting rid of it means no more Windows support right? + bios passwords should be resettable in other ways too right? Just wanted to hear you guyses' perspective on it.

>>109631008
If I was going abroad I would buy the cheapest Chromebook I could find so I wouldn't cry when a brown person inevitably stole it. One that was supported by MrChromeBox custom firmware so I could run Linux natively on it and luks encrypt the drive. Closest thing you can get to a "burner" laptop.

>>109631134
This, Chromebooks and $100 Thinkpads are probably the greatest burners ever because you're not gonna be crying should it get stolen or destroyed, I don't know how people buy $2000 laptops to carry around, that's a life ruiner.

>>109631008
>what price range are you usually looking for
Around 200€
>where are you looking
eBay.de
>And what is libreboot/other bios replacements for
>Do you guys do it because of some privacy promise or to get rid of shitty business laptop's BIOS passwords etc
libreboot is for a very specific selection of hardware, the purpose of libreboot was to have as the name implies a libre boot: meaning that your boot environment and bios is 100% inspectable by anyone who has access to the source code and who knows what they're doing in addition to be 100% reproducible for a chain of trust that you can actually trust.
The only other replacement I can think off is coreboot which was also the basis for libreboot if I remember correctly.

What you basically want is something so cheap that you won't cry if it is stolen abroad. But that goes against your wish to be perceived in some kind of normie hierarchy. So my recommendation for you is a MacBook Neo.

>>109631478
>MacBook Neo.
Unironically the correct choice if you want an inexpensive just works laptop that won't look strange, as much as I don't think it matters, a black Thinkpad even if it's brand new right out of the box will always look like an old laptop compared to some silver plastic crap, or Apple's anodized aluminum.

>>109631500
I don't care about how normies percieve me, I'm that W541 retard.
But anon cares, doesn't want to pay too much and seems to be not very knowledgeable about /g/ anyways. The neo is the perfect craptop for him.

>>109631552
It really is, $700 for a really high dpi screen isn't bad despite the Apple Inc-ness of it.

>your wish to be perceived in some kind of normie hierarchy
Technically Idc, I mean i use the shitty HP here and got people make comments about it. But like in a foreign country + I'm already bad at making new friends.. i thought it would be disadvantageous

>>109631748
Meant for >>109631478
Also do you use libreboot yourself? Out of interest

>>109631008
>don't wanna get clowned for using an "old laptop"
no wonder aplel is so successful if "people" like this or the average applecuck exist
anyway the neo is currently the only non-retarded purchase you can make from them
chromebooks make sense as a concept but they are ass for what they offer, thats why old notebooks gain a second life here

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>>109631873
Human beings are funny like that

>>109631748
My guy, you need to choose according to your field. I'm a computer scientist. People have come forward to me and asked me "is that a T500?" back when I used to have a T500 on the street after leaving uni for home.

>>109631752
Not yet, I've been trying to update my debian 11 to debian 12 for 15 hours now (>>109629951), but systemd-journald is raping me raw. I give up. I have everything backed up. I'll head to bed, nuke the everliving shit out of the sucker first thing in the morning and just cleanly install debian 13.

>>109632204
>People have come forward to me and asked me "is that a T500?
This honestly, just the sight of a Chinkpad in the wild will attract the right kind of people, doesn't need to have a million stickers on it about how much of a based motherfucker you are, the Chinkpad will do all the talking, that's why people people buy Apple, it does make a statement about the user.

>>109631151
It's normal to carry valuables around, if you don't live in Brazil.
People rarely buy new 2k laptops themselves, it's mostly work laptops.

>>109631151
Ive never had a laptop stolen. Its either on me in a bag or on a table at a library/coffee shop/bookstore which are safer areas and in my sight

>>109633043
>Ive never had a laptop stolen
That just means the anti theft feature on your Lenovo Thinkpad is working, Mac theft is so bad they had to introduce that infernal Activation lock bullshit tied with the person's iCloud Account so the Mac effectively bricks when it's wiped and reset.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fyOf5HjkmQ

>>109633063
My thinkpad new was $1600 but I grant macbooks are targeted but are a small portion of the laptop market

>>109633115
Doesn't matter in the eyes of a normie or shithead who steals laptops, they could look at a fucking 2009 piece of shit unibody MBP and they'll steal it like it is a $1600 computer because it just looks the part even after all this time, I look at my Mom's $1800 tricked out T14G5, it looks just as blocky and shitty as an old T480 for sub $300, that's why nobody takes it, the way the laptop looks is literally a feature at preventing theft.

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I have a problem with this X24 that maybe someone can help me fix: it doesn't fucking turn on. I press the power button and I see all LEDs come to life, I hear the hdd spin but then all LEDs turn off (except for the charger connected led) , the screen doesn't turn on and nothing happens. I tried plugging another monitor, taking off the ram and BIOS battery but nothing works and I get no error beeps. I think I have a corrupted BIOS but I have absolutely no idea how to fix it. Please can anyone help?

>>109631873
>>109632243
I don't wanna use macOs idk where this even came from guys..
>>109632204
I'm a computer scientist too :P maybe im overthinking it and I should just bring my HP... I wouldnt be sad if it got lost or broke and its good enough so idk if someone clowns on me then ig theyre all just JERKS.
>I give up.
Good luck clean installing I guess

>>109633965
Thinkpad isn't some obscure brand that only knee-high sock wearing weeaboo uses. It's THE laptop for the desk jockeys.

>>109600260
>The T480 overheats like crazy
That's actually normal because Intel basically took the same 14nm process that Skylake and Kaby were on with the dual core laptops that were quiet even at 100% load, and then doubled the core count Coffee Lake was Intel's housefire moment.

What is the thinking pad of tablets?

>>109633965
>I wouldnt be sad if it got lost or broke and its good enough
What about the data you'd lose?
>Good luck clean installing I guess
I'm deliberating installing a different Linux right now but I have no idea what to get.

>>109634116
What about disk jockeys?
>>109635096
I'm not gonna think that far into the future.
>different Linux
I personally haven't tried many distros desu. What about Fedora?

>>109633063
Imagine breaking into somebody's car and hiding the laptop under their seat or something. They assume it's stolen and ragebrick it, then find it a week later digging for change.

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>>109635221
>I personally haven't tried many distros desu.
Pic rel.
>What about Fedora?
The GPU is a K1100M with the Kepler microarchitecture which hasn't been supported since the Nvidia 470 drivers and Nouveau doesn't support automatic re-clocking for the K1100M.
Either I have to keep that bitch running full retard 24/7, keep it in power saving 24/7, completely disable the dGPU or switch states manually by modifiying

/sys/kernel/debug/dri/0/pstate

every damn time I want to switch power states on the GPU.

For now I'll just install Rocky Linux 9 which is compatible with the nv470 drivers and then get another ThinkPad down the line.

>>109636188
Well the owner can unbrick it by typing in their icloud email and password, the problem arises when an institution dumps a bunch of Macbook Pros off like they do Chinkpads, but unlike the giant pile of Chinkpads, they're activation lock or remote managed and have to be scrapped.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHq6Nl47-ds

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>>109636312
Guess who just found out that you cannot disable the dGPU in the BIOS?

Need some recommendations for a ThinkPad that's as similar to the W541 as possible.
>Numpad
>15" or 16"
>Topmount Hinges

>>109637946
Get a Thinkpad T570P Anon, you can get a quad core beast kaby lake, it's got cool hinges, it's not a workstation laptop but you can get integrated graphics, 15 inch screen, and a numpad.

>>109638005
Oh shit they didn't even make a T570P for some reason, look for a P50 with skylake quad core.

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>>109638005
Not being offensive, but are you jacking with me? The only Laptop like that with a numpad was the T540p and I have one sitting right here next to me.
I literally upgraded from that to the W541.

I know of the P50, P51, P52 and the P53, the best of the bunch is the P52 btw, but kinda don't want one.

>>109637946
P50 to P15 gen 2 are the closest. I picked up a P51 recently. It doesn't have a proper off switch for the dGPU either but the power management is much less bad than on a W540. With X11 displaying through the iGPU and the dGPU (M2200, nouveau driver) sitting unused, I get 7W idle, 9W scrolling through text in a browser, 13W watching a video.

>>109637087
I don't pretend to understand how appleshit works, the idea just sounded funny to me.

Any good SSD you guys would recommend for a T480? My Samsung 870 EVO is starting to show early signs of failure.

>>109638595
Get a Samsung PRO if you want the best

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Whats the best bang/buck I can get for about $1000 usd? Currently looking at pic related but from the reviews it seems like it has shit battery life and pulls double duty as a space heater which is less than ideal for me.

Use case is general productivity and light gaming. Need to stick to windows because all my boomer trading apps are windows only.

I am autistic about keyboards. The seven row from xx20 series and older is still the best laptop keyboard I've ever used.

Does anything after that come even close to it in quality? I like my W520, and X230 with a classic keyboard transplant, but I'd like to round it out with something faster and more power efficient for when I need the extra computing power. I was just looking at the T480 but that's about it.

>>109639159
When it comes to the keys themselves, the curved chiclet keys feel better than old 7 row, and while I wish the fucking delet key, the home end insert pg up pg pn prt scrn were the way they were on the 7-row chinkpads and old Dell Latitudes, I would not go and use an ancient computer just to get that, a T480 or newer is a much better machine with a much nicer screen on it, the entire laptop just blows away what Lenovo made in the Sandy Bridge era.

Ok hear me out. Just had a really good idea.

What if we used fragile plastic clips to hold laptops together. We’ll still use screws and stuff, but also plastic clips instead of screws.

>>109639994
Shit's hard, And that Prt Scr key that typically lives on the function keys or in the top right corner of the keyboard where it's always fucking lived forever? Put that shit next to the right alt key, that's the perfect place for that.

>>109639082
That shit is ancient, shouldn't cost more than $600.
P15v/16v are made of recycled condoms.
Look for T14G5/G6 T16G3/G4 P16s G2/G3.
Full-size P15/16/17 if you're a masochist.

>>109627342
Xp. There are probably even factory recovery disks on the wayback machine. Get a msata ide adapter off eBay.

>>109639082
Probably last years flagship xps model wholesale on eBay. Core ultra 9 275hx or go home

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>>109641688
Ok thank you. Probably gonna go with the t16 since $50 for a bigger screen and battery seems like a no brainer.

>>109642908
>xps
I'll look into it thanks.

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Are libreboot'd t480s still the best schizo option on the market?

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>>109575141
Hi, what's the successor of T480?

>>109643166
Depending on your level of schizo it could also be T440p or T400

>>109643786
T14 gen 7 if you're rich, T14 gen 1-2 or L14 gen 2-4 (they all have their pros and cons) if you're poor

>>109644078
thanks fren

>>109643786

T490 or T420, then there are T14s