https://www.techradar.com/audio/portable-media-players/no-shade-sony-but-hideo-kojima-is-celebrating-his-love-of-physical-discs-with-a-new-limited-edition-version-of-my-favorite-mini-cd-player

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>>109725248
Current the various variations just placebos ?
A $20 IEM is basically the same as a $300 IEM

>>109725354
it's the other way around
everything is so different and even more different inside you ears price becomes meaningless

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>>109725248
Is that KM5 CP1 actually a good CD player? I’ve read that it can even scratch discs. Is it a company designed to lure in weaboos and scam customers into thinking they’re buying a cool-looking high-end Japanese product (the is Japanese in their website, sugoi!), when in reality it’s temu-tier chink shit of extreme poor quality, right? It makes sense that a hack like Kojima promotes it.

>>109725472
i dont think its that good, here its simply colab with kojima productions and it fits nicely with death stranding theme and kojimas love for music gear. I think he had also colabs with earbuds company

>>109725472
It looks really cool and it's Japanese but I'm gonna pass on this one. I might be getting a Shangling EC Play soon if nothing else comes out.

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Moondrop Chu 3
I want to kiss the miku on the box

>>109725627
>Shangling EC Play
better than FiiO DM13?

Anyone here use a DAP that isn’t just a black rectangle with a touchscreen running Android? Interested to see what’s out there.

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My Shanling Tinos just broke on me after a year, the Shanling Sonos before that lasted about a year as well.

Thanks to the lad that recommended the Koss KSC75s
They're very comfortable and great for my morning commute

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ordered a case to store things in and some more tips

>>109726060
xher name is yuki...

>>109726485
time to buy crinear daybreak

>>109726761
I also have a case. good purchase

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huh, these are pretty good for ten bucks. nice fit and they're kinda bassy

so hum...do I still go for the black pearl?

>>109728081
Why, my moondrop ssr's are the only pair that haven't fallen apart after years of use so I was going to buy something from them

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>>109728234
they're even better with animu faceplates

>>109726163

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>>109726163
rockboxed, no android no touchscreen

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>>109726163

Which budget pos offers best driver tech, separation and EQ capability?

>>109728862
KZ PR2/PRX, Simgot EA500LM, CCA Hydro

is zishanchad still around? is his Z1 still working?

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>>109728862
>ooopusX Op.22
>2dd 2ba
>2 tunings
>$35
better adherence to the tranny target than most pos and it's ezpz to slap a highshelf if u find it too bright !

Why is JM-1 so good bros???

>>109729124
cuz u have a popavg pp

>>109729145
better than having no pp at all

>>109726158
In my opinion yes. Fuck F**O.

>>109728081
Daybreak's day is over. Juzear Light Shuttle may be the new FOTM. Its bass shelf looks much nicer.

>>109728389
>moondrop
depends what. they are known for their QC issues
>Why
daybreaks have pretty solid QC because crin was very autistic about it. A bunch of problems that showed up on release got fixed pretty quickly. It has fully-filled resin shell meaning better structural integrity and longevity. It also comes with a good cable with interchangeable terminations and a decent selection of different ear tips.
>>109729280
we'll have to see how it stacks up against daybreak... it is also more expensive but yeah not a bad option either it seems

>>109729280
What's next, a 1DD+8MEMS IEM?

I wonder how many IEMs do you have?

>>109729442
I 4 IEMs. 2 for each ear so 2 pairs of IEMs.

>>109729442
15 I think.

What driver type "does ear gain" the best?

>>109729782
that question makes no sense

What driver type "does JM-1 ear gain" properly?

>>109730028
I think a better question would be, "what driver config executes JM-1 eargain the best?"

>>109730235
I guess one well implemented DD whose natural acoustic response is shaped into JM-1 is the most straightforward setup. But a good hybrid implementation possibly could beat a single DD, provided the crossover is doing a good job.

>>109730398
I'm sure people in this hobby could value clarification on what different driver types are actually best for across the frequency spectrum, since apparently 1DD isn't magic and 2DD is a meme.
If we're going to make those assumptions, I'd genuinely like to know what the supposed physical limitations are.

just got my chu 3 lets see how they are. i know theres no fox techs but they can't be that bad, right?

>>109730441
>I'm sure people in this hobby could value clarification on what different driver types are actually best for across the frequency spectrum, since apparently 1DD isn't magic and 2DD is a meme.
This will all depend on their responses and ease of tuning. For example, BAs feature the same types of sharp resonances as DDs but they can be used with dampers to remove those, hence their frequent use for high frequency shaping and tuning.
2DD isn't a meme if used properly in terms of tuning. Cadenza II achieves similar results to the Zero Red despite having 1DD.
>If we're going to make those assumptions, I'd genuinely like to know what the supposed physical limitations are.
It is hard to target specific frequency ranges, especially for incorporating peaks or dips. That's literally about it, they all operate with similar rules (constant SPL until driver resonance then drop off with modal behavior)

DD treble doesn't extend super well. You can undershoot or overshoot your target but it's hard to get it just right. In general the main reason to use other driver types at all is to optimize upper mids/treble.

>>109730574
>>109730611
Actually that's more along the lines of what I was trying to get at. So it sounds like the distinction is less "DD or 2DD can't do JM-1 ear gain" and more that different driver types have different engineering tradeoffs, which makes sense to me.
I was mainly questioning the idea that a 2DD is inherently incapable of executing the JM-1 shape properly, which in 2026, doesn't really seem to be an actual problem with current IEM engineering

>>109730789
with EQ 1DD can follow JM-1 or any other target perfectly with 0 tradeoffs

>>109731027
I'm not including EQ into the equation, I'm only outlining distinct driver types and what they specifically contribute to or constrain when achieving certain stock tunings.

>>109730789
I think for current "JM-1" sets that use DDs in that range, they are damping the driver resonance and then using a very dense front mesh to reduce energy past 3kHz.
Most implementations of 2DD that aim for JM-1 instead target the relative dip in the bass region, which is hard to do with 1DD although not impossible (see Cadenza II, Singolo).
BAs come in all types of responses, so fine tuning that eargain region is relatively simpler.

>>109731163
Implementation is the kind of angle I've been trying to include in this sort of discussion without giving a "quality driver" all the credit.
Implementation has always been an important factor.
Just like the Singolo you mentioned, Aful Magicone has a Helmholtz resonator, which is a 1BA IEM.
Some say the bass is ass, sounds "digital", etc, which makes this good ground to cover trying to understand how much implementation is simply a crutch for driver limitations and how much of it is an integral part of the whole system

>>109731241
Right, but the reason why a lot of anons do not discuss such topics despite knowing and understanding them is because implementation simply does not matter for the end consumer.
It doesn't matter if implementation A or B was used, if the end result is the same, they sound the same. "Implementation" is often used very wrongly by insinuating that these implementations themselves have an inherent sound characteristic even if two different ones end up achieving the same thing.
I find it a particularly interesting topic but there is a gigantic difference in how it is used within actual engineering contexts/discussions vs average audiophile forums.

>>109729442
7 iems, 7 tws

>>109728862
Can vouch for Tangzu Waner 2 (not red lion since I don't own it) for separation and imaging. Doable for fps games, footsteps and gunshots good enough. It's miles better than Gate, Chu 2, and way better than Waner 1 which has zero separation.

ordered the adam H200s and the miku DAP
I'm not entirely clear on what cable I need to connect the cans to the 4.4mm balanced port, any recs?

>>109731488
>The audio cable can be attached on either the left or right side using the carefully angled and concealed 2.5 mm input jack with a locking collar mechanism. This allows convenient connections to source equipment no matter where it is located in your listening environment, and particularly useful in recording applications where one or both hands may be required for performance.
uh... you'd need a bespoke cable for that, email them and ask for the correct pinout

>>109731535
thanks. DIY, pinouts, connectors, and cable fabrication I know well but I only dabble in audio.

>>109729442
5 but one is up for sale. i could live with 3 of them too

Anyone has any recommendations for a 200mm woofer for a closed cabinet? What would give me the most bass?

"Sometimes literal neutrality can interfere with identity by underexpressing a property that matters perceptually. Imagine photographing an enormous mountain with a perfectly rectilinear 50 mm lens from far away. The photograph might be geometrically faithful, yet fail completely to convey what standing underneath the mountain is like. A wider lens from close beneath it introduces perspective exaggeration—and could nevertheless be experientially more truthful."

thats pretty true. invest in scale and physicality

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Fosi are releasing a new CD player. Looks cool but I can't take this outside.

>>109733228
why would you need a cd player in 2026 lol

>>109733228
terrible design

>>109733409
To play CDs.

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>>109733228
You could hurt someone with that thing.

>>109733503
sounds gay

>>109733539
Seems like you have gay ears and they convert straight sound wavelengths into gay ones. I think it might be terminal...
>>109733505
Lmao I don't wanna ruin my precious super duper rare CDs though. My collection is insane. It's still cool that the bugmen are constantly trying things out and producing cool looking shit nobody is buying.

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>>109733228

>>109731134
It demonstrates that there's no inherent constrains of a "driver type". DDs planars or even BAs can follow the target perfectly.
Doing it with analog tuning is simply a question of RnD and resources.

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>>109733587
It's not a new idea sadly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dqzBvFcMdc

Just got my Hexa, not sure why some anons here told me it's terrible. It sounds so clean, with great instrument separation.

I donnt know what key words to put to search earbuds that no one can hear the sound even if you pushed the sound on your ear at hogh volume, so I'm asking you do you know any?

>>109733953
bone conductive headphones?

>>109732570
which dumbass said that one?

>>109734087
can others hear the song at max volume?

>>109734245
you mean isolation and sound leakage? i dont think there is that much variation between iems, they isolate well generally

>>109734335
>isolation and sound leakage
yes exactly

>>109734335
Not really. Some leak way more sound than others. Metal shell pos probably leak less than plastic pos in general

hideo kamiya inventer of camera

>>109733661
this one was mainly for mini-CDs. it just could also play full sized ones

>>109731535
>>109731488
they're not designed for balanced unless you open them up and rewire them, which is technically possible with any headpos
both sockets are 2.5mm TRS

>>109725248
Some time ago I accidentally realized my parents (60+) can't hear past 12 khz and now did small experiment to cut everything after that with eq. I personally go to 16.5k and my reaction was "Holy mother of lost techs, shallow stage and missing cymbals". I wish I was being ironic or joking. It's plain sad what people are missing with age. No wonder Explorer was so popular.

>>109734498
20dB of compensation can fix that

>>109734511
That's why you should buy the Astrals my friendo!

>>109733228
Looks like shit

I wish sellers stated if there are volume control buttons. I almost bought /iem/-recommended e-waste that does not have them.

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new endgame tips from eletech get your preorders in

>>109734495
I get it, I'll leave it alone until

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>>109734495
Ur a noob, they have dual entry. You can use a pair of 2.5mm just like people wire hd490/480 for balanced

>>109735284
>$26 for getting a seal that you can get with a $0.15 tip
no, thanks

>>109735459
entirely different design
2TS plugs into a TRS jack will result in a short circuit

>>109735211
same
what budget iems with volume controls are good?

>>109735284
Buy an ad

>>109733654
>Doing it with analog tuning is simply a question of RnD and resources.
you're saying, "it hasn't been done, but one day, it could be"
? lol
also, you're wrong. we just had an entire civil conversation about implementation. read it again

>IEM price: 35€
>replacement cable price: 25€
Please make it make sense.

>>109735688
there aren't any IEMs with onboard volume controls.

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>>109735799

>>109735819
we weren't talking about cables, he asked about IEMs.

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>>109725248
It finally happened niggas, the pos to beat fox iem:
Gengar pos

>>109736348
omg i can't even imagine the techs

>>109736348
which model is that?

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Oh nonononono IEM bros...
https://youtu.be/PbMmmcsPujM

>>109736786
>IEMs are overrated
>IEMs are the most underrated earphones
there's 0 fucking 0 people with IEM when you go out and look at people:0 with IEMs

>>109733661
I know, but you're not gonna buy this old piece of shit. Not that you're buying the new one either, but it's just cool that it exists.
>>109735005
You too.

>>109736538
Q1 pro

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I love flat bass bright pos!

>>109733839
HRTF stuff, for some people it sounds thin and bassless, while for others, myself included, it sounds great with proper bass

>>109736786
my nigga is right
iems cant rattle the skull

>>109733953
Etymotic

>>109737099
thks very much

>>109735710
retarded take
>you're saying, "it hasn't been done, but one day, it could be"
Yes? Do you not see all the inertia even chinese IEM makers have? jm-1 is pretty new still and they lack understanding of what it is and why. So far only basically crin made DDs and planars that follow jm-1 decently well. Where the fuck the rest of them hm? China sucks at audio research it's pretty obvious.
>also, you're wrong
Where exactly am I wrong?
>we just had an entire civil conversation about implementation. read it again
I've read it you people know fuck all

>>109737390
well look who it is, the contrarian.
>>109733654
>there's no inherent constrains of a "driver type".
bullshit. BAs need an array to produce a full bass without the crutch of a Helmholtz radiator. there is no single basshead BA out there because
the constraint is that the driver will "tone out" and shit itself when being pushed in that regard. this has been known for years.
>I've read it you people know fuck all
we accept your concession and aren't interested in your contrarian, argumentative kiddie shit.
>"muh companies know nothing"
lol

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>>109737434
nta but
>there is no single basshead BA out there
???

>>109737572
you're showing a 4 BA IEM. if meteor is considered a basshead IEM by anybody serious, you're agreeing with my point about BAs needing an array to produce full bass without a Helmholtz radiator.

>>109737434
>bullshit.
why are you getting so emotional?
>BAs need an array to produce a full bass without the crutch of a Helmholtz radiator.
BAs can struggle with bass but with deep fit and good seal they still can play full 20-20k range.
Is that all? muh BA bass? that's your full argument about how restricted all these drivers are?
>"muh companies know nothing"
yes? what do they know? how to shove same drivers into different shells? There are barely any jm-1 iems that are not youtuber collabs. Now use your retarded brain and think why

>>109737763
I've been wanting to upgrade to the nicehck rockies for a while now, but my sliivo and my cadenza just work...

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Remember to Driver Quality!

>>109737736
yeah arguing for the sake of it really isn't working for you.
>BAs can struggle with bass
accurate. glad you agree.
>all they need is a deepfit and good seal
incorrect. the occlusion effect is not necessary to "give BAs a chance at bass" lol.
> that's your full argument about how restricted all these drivers are?
refer back to the normal conversation that was already had in this thread. no need for you chiming in and making it an argument. literally.
nobody here is interested in your grandstanding, so, concession accepted.

>>109737736
Nta, but why are you getting so emotional?

Saar...

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Am I cringe for wanting this?

>>109737763
Flatheads feel like a downgrade after using IEMs

>>109737862
>incorrect. the occlusion effect is not necessary to "give BAs a chance at bass" lol.
that's not what I said?
In principle jm-1 BA driver can be developed it's just not really necessary. But again is that all? BAs is a hill you want to die on?
>nobody here is interested in your grandstanding, so, concession accepted.
you are mentally ill. the moment somebody decides to not eat your bullshit your brain simply breaks. you have no arguments you just want affirmation about your childish ideas lol
>>109737885
>Nta
sure you are

>>109737960
No really, why are you getting so emotional?

>>109737967
where are dem emotions?

>>109738005
in da bawls, homie

>>109738005
>"you are mentally ill."
>"your brain simply breaks"
>"you just want affirmation about your childish ideas"
personal attacks, ad hominems, no ability to have a civil discussion. trying to discredit.
those are the key points.

>>109738170
but you are ignoring every attempt to have a civil discission
you never answer questions because you simply lack knowledge about topic you are trying to discuss
you were called out numerous times about your non answers and deflections.
let's observe the level of your argumentation
>you're saying, "it hasn't been done, but one day, it could be"
>? lol
>we accept your concession and aren't interested in your contrarian, argumentative kiddie shit.
>lol
yeah

>>109738235
good god you're just complaining now.
the discussion has been had already and you're trying to bring it back up and turn it into discourse.
literally nobody cares about your need to appear as though only you know what you're talking about. the more you do it, the crazier you seem.
so congratulations, you shat up the thread once again. let the grown ups talk for once

>>109734767
I mean if you are old and half deaf yeah maybe
otherwise not really

>>109738288
>good god you're just complaining now.
?? You are basically complaining crying bitching and moaning in your every post... Why are you trying to call me out when you are basically started with it?
Guess why I never call you out for crying like a bitch? Cause I don't give a fuck just answer the questions like a normal human would.

>>109738334
>"I swear by EQ!!"
>Don't get those IEMs because you'll go deaf"
>"most audio doesn't contain much information in that frequency range anyway"

what

>>109738353
why are you so emotional???

>>109738334
My comment was sarcasm.

>>109738353
My guy, you are the one flipping out about all this stuff. No offense.....

>>109738358
? I dunno

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There's gotta be some tomfoolery or cheating going on here right? I went in thinking I was going to prefer hifiasmr's target. When I was presumably A/B'ing them both in the test I thought I was picking it too. What the fuck. Their EQ system is probably broken. Post yours, just curious.

>>109738715 (me)
It is not clear how they EQ, for whoever develops the site, after the shootout the targets are clickable, it would be nice if those links went to the studio with whatever EQ was applied on top of the peripheral picked in the test. This makes the shootout more useful too. Since then one can try multiple targets and come out with what they preferred and the EQ to go along with it.

>>109738715
Why would I waste time picking between 5 dogshit choices, there's a personalized EQ option right there.

>>109738815
Last I tried it personalized one uses a baseline target too and it only makes minor changes, a lot of what makes a target remains untouched. So "personalized" isn't as personalized as you think

>>109738850
I tried it two times in a row and got 5dB less treble than his baseline both times. And it wasn't as good as my own EQ. Clearly I'm not the target audience.

>>109738872
What was the IEM you were using?

>>109738878
q1 pro.

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>>109737837
Just EQ the IR bro.

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>>109739544
>"it really was measured after the fact"

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I really do need a PMP. Preferably one that can has an XLR connector if possible.

>ppl hate tws because it's e-waste
>sennheiser releases a tws with a replaceable battery
it's time to throw away your wired pos, grandpas.

>>109739886
Did some quick looking, apparently that's a big ask lmao
I just want something a bit overbuilt and can handle 1TB (or more) SD cards that can drive these E-Mu Teaks with sufficient power and maybe has Bluetooth connectivity
>Budget
$400 or below
>Region
USA

>>109739912
I've never understood what people hear in sennheiser. okay you have a noise floor that extends past the planck constants but now what?

any cheap pmp with USB c out?

>>109740748
define cheap

>>109740940
under $400

>>109740944
any pmp from consoomer guide from like 2023 and newer can do that

>>109740987
ooc what's the cheapest one that can?

>>109740996
shanling m0s probably

>>109741017
my next question is, does my phones USB c out be better or equal to the sound quality of a dap? i have a pixel 9 pro xl

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I recently had my as whole blown open by a pair of basic-bitch pair of CCA CRA IEMs I bought on Ali with a discount.
I did some digging and the next recommended step is something "hybrid" that combines a Dynamic Driver and a Balanced Armature?

I won't know if I like it until I try it so I'm not super worried about understanding the mee-nuu-tay. Please suggest what brands I should check out that have this "hybrid" tech.

Wired is great.
Budget <$100 USD.
I'm listening to Spoopify on laptop or poopPhone, no DAC.

Arigato, paisen.

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>>109725627
>>109725472
Do you guys actually listen to "official" CD media or disks you burn yourself?

>Shangling EC Play
Fatboi. That's not portable in the slightest. So what's the point??

>>109739886
>gun
Why?
So that no one mistakes you for a person with universal health care?

>>109741492
Apple dongle and EPZ Q1 Pro is obviously the only way. No hybrid needed for your scenario

>>109741547
I don't because I don't have a CD player yet. Now is the EC play not portable? Did you google the wrong thing?

>>109741554
You're balding and out of shape and you get no bitches whatsoever, correct?

>>109740940
ur mum

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>>109741547
I listen to CDs I’ve purchased. I don’t see the point in burning CDs myself when I already use a FLAC player for that. I like the booklets, the packaging, and the colorful discs. I also listen to the audio CDs that came with my Japanese grammar and listening books.

>>109741492
CRA were reccs from over 4 years ago. There are single DDs for similar price that are better now. Sticking with the theme of KZ something like Saga Bass edition or Vibe X would be a direct upgrade. And if you need multidriver meme best choices currently are Truthear Pure and ooopusX Op.22 under $100

>>109737763
>>109725248
>kojima hates bass
He's just like me fr

>>109729442
3 IEMs, minus the moondrop chu 1, the cable turned back into oil and one of the speakers broke

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>>109743423
lol kojima has dogshit taste

>>109743568
or low integrity if they paid him. he probably has storm

>>109743619
first of all he's a pop culture slop artist
the notion of 'integrity' goes out the window

second of all it's a 'partnership', ie cashgrab
hope this helps

why are CD players in vogue again? they sucked ass the first time around

>>109743692
people can't own anything nowadays, so CDs at least provide a sense of ownership.

>>109743829
grim
I guess I get to trot out my dusty binder of vintage trance and go bang alt zoomettes or whatever

I bought moondrop chu 2 locally

I'm not in the SEA region like most but I guess I need to stop my habit of wiping my current iem with a 1/5th of a wet wipe before I start using it after a shower.
dry paper towel just in case

>>109744230
Buy a bag of silica gel packets

im caving in to the golem and im forced to buy a phone without 3.5 jack.

are the usb-c in ears good too? will it damage or degrade the port? anyone found a good way around this problem?
i mostly used chink iems and i dont understand why everyonesgetting rid of 3.5. and no, i dont want to pay premium to buy an old phone with 3.5 or those unicorns that have 3.5 but are ass specs wise. bluetooth is out of the question i dont want to charge my phone.

>>109744468
USB-C DACs are a thing for a reason

>>109744468
Even the cheapest DAC options are almost always better than whatever phones have built-in but the reliability is a problem, plus you can't charge and listen with most of them. Wireless charging + power bank somewhat solves this.

>>109744493
i would really hate to have another fucking part to stick in between every time. Are the headphones that come directly with a USB-C cable just ass?

>>109744529
>Are the headphones that come directly with a USB-C cable just ass?

jesus dude, just go buy WH-1000s

>>109744468
Happened to me as well.
my phone pick had a good built in dac so I only needed a plain ugreen wire dongle and not one with a built in dac.
I still buy 3.5mm as I use it on my pc as well

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these are totl. they sound very elastic and tight. inbefore sighted hearing

>>109744886
would you take a pic show us what they look like on any of your IEMs?

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>>109744913

>>109744992
I appreciate it anon. are they super grippy? the graphic makes em out to be like the ones that are

>>109745082
yes, the grippiest tips i have

Are CCA CRA OG and Wankers still the best IEMs on the market?

>>109745461
all mogged by edc pro

>>109745487
but EDC Pro needs EQ. and if it needs EQ to be good, then CRA and Wankers can be equally good if not better if they are EQ'd as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olsg5mj_0Mk

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>>109744529
If they're orange they're good.

>>109743311
Are you 63?

Bassheads are still having the most fun

For me, it's the Crinear Nightfall on 11.11 Aliexpress Sale

>>109747434
Sick implementation of 2DD configuration. It's 2026, surely they know what they're doing nailing JM-1 pinna without meme BA/micro planars

>>109747444
I don't understand this comment

>>109747506
You will eventually

Yk... HPs are like real chicken, you are like getting texture, mass, and the temperature. IEMs are like Knorr chicken flavor, just pumping the flavor into your ear canal.

>>109747924
uhhhhh if headphones are real whole chicken from the deli, then IEMs are chicken nuggets.

Do you use AKG EO-IG955s with SpinFit W1 eartips calibrated to the PEQdB Diamond target curve?

>>109747924
i want the chicken data injected directly into my brain

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i like the og a whole lot more than the pro.

>>109748081
No.

best IEM to listen to Limp Bizkit with?

probably crinear reference if you're listening to shit you may as well just use shit

>>109748572
ask musk about that braing implant that he shilled fo a while

>>109725248
>no hpg in the catalog
>no hpg in recent archive
Wtf happened

>>109749398
Obsoleted by IEMs.

>>109749398
its normally called HiFi but the threads are v infrequrnt

>>109749445
Hifi is for speakers.

>>109749398
solved, you can just buy good set and enjoy it for years without

This general is dead too, if not 3-4 retards spaming about EQ, FR, panning or next fomo target it would be long gone under wave of ai slop generals

>>109749565
>you can just buy good set
Can you?

>>109749565
>you can just buy good set and enjoy it for years without
That's what I did with my sennheiser 599s, that ear pads are tearing off and it seemed like time to get a new pair since I didn't like these very much

>>109749596
if u are not that autistic that u have to jerk off to perfect graphs of course.

Chinks and influencers are tricked u that what u hear isnt enough and next target or next model has to be next big thing that u have to buy
At times it feels like smartphone market for tech bros, or wireless tws and headphones - people are buying pretty much same shit in new package over and over but there at least are some measurable things like better soc, better camera or battery

Chinks tricked u with that mindset but for wired headphones and iems, u can easly buy set or 2 and use them for 10 years no problem, if sound is good now it will be good 10 years in the future.
But be sure they will come with few new fomo targets, meme drivers and other shit so autist like u can chase "perfect sound" paying them for next shilled shit. And that measurable difference is target that they made up and promoted based on made up science

>>109749547
wasn't it a multi thread recently with both?

>>109749628
Headphone graphs are useless, you need to eq by ear starting from 2k. The real problem is most headphones aren't even worth wearing.

How on earth can I tell how narrow a peak is when EQing

>>109749654
All 3 should be merged at this point

Can you recommend me a IEM that sounds exactly like Tangzu Wan'er II, but has a good build quality? Budget is $50.

>>109746219
whats the box?

>>109750473
Lament configuration.

>>109750447
- full metal only, no plastic
- 2 pin connector like yours
- you are probably in SEA so no brass
on squigg set target to waner II, click auto and you are good to go

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post pretty iems if you can think of any
this is one of a handful of limited edition symphonium europas and imo the prettiest one of them. it exudes engineered opulence and imo easily clears the "fox iem", and really most iems. unfortunately its not for sale and if it was it would be a multikilo object

>>109750590
>recessed 2 pin cable on flush 2 pin IEM
Cringe.

>>109750624
i'm not sure what to think about it. many people also take issue with the large plugs of nightjar cables. there are probably better pairings out there

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>>109750624
maybe this cable pairing is more to your liking? this is the unique melody mason fs nuit étoilée. exquisite craftmanship.

>>109750530
did you solve it?

I miss /hpg/

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>>109725248
Good morning.
I'm looking for good 3.5mm to USB 3.0 DAC devices to hopefully plug into the rear of my PC.
Also if these things can eliminate headphone static, is it possible that there is something like this for USB microphones to eliminate their static and make my old fifine mic sound a bit better?
The mic part of pic related made me curious if such a device exists.

>>109751013
just make a thread

>>109750694
It's a better match but cloth cables have terrible microphonics.

ChatGPT keeps relentlessly shilling Penon Liqueur eartips. Question to the intellection masters in this thread: are they any good?

definitely worth 10 dollars for all sizes. penon does free shipping too i think

>>109751559
They are made from a different, sticky material. Personally I don't like this, I prefer being able to adjust the fit while they're in my ear, but if you've never tried it you should check it out.

How do I clean human oil grease off my headphone pads?
I am a grease ball.

>>109751650
from google: remove the pads and gently scrub them with a mixture of warm water and a few drops of mild dish soap using a soft toothbrush, then let them air-dry completely for 24 hours

>>109751559
never heard of them

What is so special about KBear coffee tips? I remember seeing those mentioned left and right across the hobby

>>109751894
mainly price i think. 8 pairs for a few dollars and they're comfortable

apparently reviewers paired it with daybreak but i think it was popular before that too
https://www.audioreviews.org/guide-to-iem-silicone-eartips/
he doesn't like them but if you're building a tip collection i'd buy them

I have a Moondrop Dawn Pro 2, how good is the Moondrop Kadenz to pair with it? Found a new one for around $150, so I'm considering it. I mainly listen to J-pop and rhythm game music. My focus is on vocal and details.

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This nigga has the worst taste of all time. If you're not getting earraped by upper mid and treble, he doesn't like it

Does anyone know where I can still get an apple lightning dongle? The only lightning adapter they have on amazon is some green shit or the fit ka11 which draws too much power

>>109752890
is he worse than the indian autist??

>>109752970
>apple lightning dongle
>on amazon
it's on there, but it's like $20

>>109752890
He's my most trusted youtuber.

>noooo... you need to like jm-1 w/ my tilt !

>>109749398
Staxfag

>>109752890
him and audio amigo are alright, they're not hypeartists like z or cynical doomers like hbb

>>109752890
he is everything wrong with IEM hobby, hate him desu, also that older dude with simillar name and ai generated thimbnails, jaytiss or something like that. Major shill machines on yt, on chink payroll

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1TEBby-thc
palate cleanser for your brain roted by iems shills minds

>>109754067
>he is everything wrong with IEM hobby
who do you trust that gives their personal impressions of IEMs? people on message boards, anons here, independant reviewers on yt?
who is reliable to you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxXHag5-Eew

>>109754187
I don't know, don't really watch iem content, if I have something on my mind I will try compare graphs with sets I know and check few reviews but from smaller channels with less output.
I mean this guy and other i mentioned, they are going thru so many sets per year that it's ridiculous. He is even doing bulk reviews where he goes thru few sets in one video. That can't be reliable review.
It's just product overview.

>>109754294
>I don't know
That sums it up. Thanks.

what happens if i eq my L500 to JM-1 target?

>>109754367
Mustard gas.

>>109754367
you have no ability to do it

light shuttle is fotm pos, huh?

>>109754501
people liked it

get wired earbuds, they said
you wouldnt have to charge batteries anymore, they said
it's convenient, just plug it in and listen to your tunes, they said

motherfuckers, i spend more time untangling the cables than charging my tws.

>>109754671
skill issue
https://youtu.be/_fsvANAT3yg

>>109754367
you further make preference adjustments to your tastes. that's literally it.
>>109754408
autoEQ exists
>>109754634
what people, reviewers, redditors, both?

if I DAC my ass , will the sound be better?

why is moondroo pudding so good bros?

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big fat bassgina

>>109755153
people liked it

>>109754884
>autoEQ exists
it's cope

>>109755635
elaborate.

https://iem-eq-guide.pages.dev/how-to-eq/autoeq-to-targets/

interesting, I don't see anywhere where the EQ guide says "autoeq is cope".

i just ask AI to make .feq files for my edc pro to try and match other pos. it's actually pretty fun to fuck around with.

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Que bros, we need to upgrade our soundstage

>>109754884
>what people, reviewers, redditors, both?
people who heard it during canjam and sias 2026

>>109755648
autoEQ will not give you jm-1 because it doesn't take anatomy and unit variance into consideration
if jm-1 is supposed to be neutral in the first place then the only way is to EQ your L500 to be flat by ear
>>109755696
and? why are you even asking instead of autoEQing it to jm-1 then?

>>109755867
>because it doesn't take anatomy
it's a population average of HRTFs, which is take most of the guesswork out of the equation enough to use as a baseline.
>>109755867
>autoEQing it to jm-1 then?
I myself do that to my IEMs now. I use it as a starting point and just adjust high and low shelves to taste to where I feel comfortable using the final result across all my listening. that's just me though.
also, I'm not the one that asked >>109754367
anything else?

>>109755867
>because it doesn't take anatomy
length modes and being an autist about "muh perfect EQ settings" is not necessary for personal enjoyment.

>>109755905
>it's a population average of HRTFs, which is take most of the guesswork out of the equation enough to use as a baseline.
you see... the SPIRIT of JM-1 is meant to be neutral. It being a population average is just a way to somewhat achieve that. But to hear what it actually suppose to sound like you should EQ it to be neutral... That what it will sound like to a mythical popaverage (lol) person.
But even if you want to hear what it sounds like if you are not popaverage person you can't because of reasons I named.
Either way how is it an answer when I'm talking about autoEQ specific IEM unit and its interactions with anatomy...
>I'm not the one that asked
fuck off then?
>anything else?
I dunno? you suck I guess?

>>109755920
we aren't talking about personal enjoyment we are talking about autoEQing pos to jm-1 targets
length modes only a part of it btw
you literally can check for yourself by moving your pos inside your ears...

>>109753092
It is? I was only seeing knockoff ones

>>109756020
>length modes only a part of it btw
so are preference adjustments.
JM-1 is a baseline, not absolute truth. You just admitted that.

>>109756008
oh and I accept your consession

>>109756139
>so are preference adjustments.
you do them after you EQ to flat...
>JM-1 is a baseline, not absolute truth. You just admitted that.
Does chatGPT write all your replies? Who the fuck writes like that?
Baseline should be your neutral... not popaverage neutral. But again that's beyond the point cause autoEQing random pos to jm-1 will give something that sounds nothing like jm-1
>>109756148
mental illness

>>109756183
>Baseline should be your neutral... not popaverage neutral.
who told you that, ChatGPT? or Floyd Toole?
>autoEQing random pos to jm-1 will give something that sounds nothing like jm-1
you're arguing against a claim nobody here made.
it is a baseline to make further adjustments off of. how many times do you need to be told?

>>109756221
>who told you that, ChatGPT? or Floyd Toole?
No? That's just logical thinking.
>n-no I want some random dogshit as a baseline
pff be my guest
>you're arguing against a claim nobody here made.
Are you retarded? Lost in chatGPT replies? I said that autoEQ is cope. Explained why. You are the only one who's trying to argue some dumb bullshit
>how many times do you need to be told
Why would it be a baseline for anything? Especially when you can't even EQ to it

>>109756338
>pure argumentative emotional babble
>offering nothing
well I accept your concession again

>>109756358
Nobody cares about your childish nonsense sorry

>>109754067
That fat retard honest audiophile is worse with the AI shit and just being a fat retard. I watched this one video and his pronunciation of partic-alar was driving me nuts

>>109756379
you're the one who started this pitiful exchange and brought it all on yourself, anon.
move on.

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speaking of headpos
really getting back into my hd600s with brainwavz pleather pads
the bass extension is so nice with these
they're pretty close to good IEMs at only 10x the cost!
did have to do 10 corrections in PEQ to get the tonality straight
also ordered some hybrid pads, maybe those are even better

>>109756470
>KZ planar
good taste

>>109756482
they're the ZVX (dd) with narrow bore tips
accentuates the deep bass while attenuating the resonances in the highs
really good combo

>>109756522
ah shit, ok
>KZ DD
even better taste, then

>>109756453
brought what? started? you are not anon I replied to are you retarded? you decided to be stupid and embarrass yourself...

>>109756547
holy mental illness go start an argument thread

>>109756552
It's a pattern with that anon. Every time it gets close to the end of the thread, she throws a fit. Probably just to hurry it up and get the new thread started

I wish more people would read the EQ guide. It's full of some of the most vital and necessary information for correct listening, it's a wonder how more people aren't *truly* enjoying their gear in the most correct way

>>109748719
I converted my og into the pro.

>>109752019
this + they smoothen out a certain region in the treble

>spend 3000hours eqing
>insert a little deeper and it's all ruined in the treble
sad...

>>109756996
skill issue

rusbum, can you post distortion measurements of variations pwease?

>>109756778
you can. i, however, cant