>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICEPost build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/Provide specific use casesState BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped>CASEmATX: AP201, Lian Li A3/B4, XT M3ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), Lancool 207/217, Flux Pro, 4000D FRAME, X50, BF360 Flow, HAF II 500, Summit, Warthog RSDual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8>CPUBudget: 5600/X, 12400F Entry level DDR5: 7500F, 7/9600/X, 225FGaming: 9850X3D, 9/7800X3D, 250K, 5800X3DWorkstation: 9950X/3D(2), 9900X/3D, 270K>COOLERAIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Cooler Master Atmos, Lian Li GA II Lite, Nautilus RS, Silent Loop 3, NL-LC1Dual tower: A620 PRO SE, Phantom Spirit, NH-D15 G2ITX/>42mm RAM: Big Shuriken 4, Mugen 6 Dual FanTIM: Duronaut, MX-7, PTM7950* (phase change), KryoSheet (graphene pad)*Be wary of counterfeit PTMs>MOTHERBOARDAvoid ASRock AM5 boards, CPU degradation issues still reportedChoose boards with ALC1220 audio codec when possible>RAMCrucial RAM & SSD warranty offers refunds only, no replacementsDDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (Intel)Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)DDR4: 3200CL16, 3600CL18>SSD (update firmware)DRAMless: (SN)7100, C925G, NM790PCIe Gen 4.0: (SN)850XGen 5.0: (SN)8100>GPUBuy the best one you're willing to pay forAvoid poor value entry-level GPUs like RTX 3050 & RX 6500 XT>PSUBuying guide:https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/>MONITORBudget: 165/180Hz IPS (24" 1080p / 27" 1440p)HDR: discounted OLED or MiniLED (IPS/VA: motion clarity vs. contrast)High-end: wait for 2027 OLED releasesCheck reviews & owner feedback>OSActivate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt>CASE FANSMeta: Case with good stock PWM fansMidrange: Pure Wings 3, Arctic P-Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)Prev: >>109926273
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https://www.amd.com/en/resources/support-articles/release-notes/RN-RAD-WIN-26-9-2.html
>>109938599the 26.9.2 driver is out, it added upcoming GPU codenamesSpecifically, "ATlite3", "AT2" and "Gainsborough".Medusa existed in older drivers.What is "Gainsborough" why has no leaker spoke about this GPU
>>109938626ATlite3 = mobile rdna5?
The audacity of Samsung to throw gaming ssd ads at me in the current market where nobody gives a shit about selling to consumers anymore
>>109938695not only that if it bricks its unrepairable because samsung wont fix it and repair shops cant break knox security.
>>109938657maybe or low end models
>>109938695Wtf is a "Gaming SSD"?
>>109938867An SSD for gaymen
>>109938867Just a normal ssd but they gamerified the ad, harping on gaming speeds to sell to pc gamers
>>109938319>>109938323None of this matters anymore. Any companies that provides PC rental ?? Because I rather buy a car than buy a PC
>>109938867A SSD that meets or exceeds PS5s speed requirements which is 5000mb/s+
why aren't mini-laptops built anymore? seems to me like a easy thing if you use the smallest kind of motherboard that still allows for regular hardware. put something ARMy in there, sodimm RAM and a nice small nvme. some passive cooling that doesnt take too much space, no fans...? va la! fits right into your apron. but it hasnt been done. why?
>>109939404tablets and smartphones became better.
>>109938323>>Price trackingdelet this
>>109939404why botherthey'd only have shitty screens that even the worst tablet with a bt keyboard would be better to use
>>109939451https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gLwstC4,300$ should be 2,800$YEAH FUCK ME, FUCK ME REAL GOOD
>>109939473Well this is clearly for AI use so YOU GET WHAT YOU FUCKING DESERVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQcJMdDJgAsI wonder what the odds are im going to need one of these stupid fucking things when the time comes for me to build my next pc circa ~2030. Maybe this housefire connector will finally be fixed or gone by then...
>>109939501i doubt a fan can do anything meaning full for melting gpu connectors
>>109939525well hopefully now when it becomes super imbalanced or too warm it just kills the connection instantly.I also think the fan is kind of a stupid afterthought. If it needs to be cooled down by a fan it's already too late. Kill the connection.
>>109939525the device shows you there ampere and will warn you if you exceed something like 10A with an auto shut down if a pin does so for prolonged time depending on how you set it up. The fan is just there. Would be funny if the next generation comes around with something new or we finally screw the ATX 12V standard and get 48V
>>109939525it comes with this sticker:
>>109939489i was gonna vibe code two of these.https://pith.science/paper/2604.12167And wrap them wit SmolLM3 and gooseThe idea is to make autonomous daemons for the computer ubuntu and have them essentially "play" on a 2 vms and a virtual server for minecraft.I will call them "Boot buddies" cause they always come back to life on boot and remember that time has passed and reason abductively. If they become good enough I will take them out of the VM (the crib) To do customization on the Os to optimize their "machine brains".They have a custom scheduler that allows them to change the weights and synaptic modules of their brain on the fly. Meaning they can call modules they learned to increase the capacity of their neural network.A.i. is gonna be cooler than gaming when you can literally fight a thinking machine as a "npc" in a video game. They don't even need to "feel", just puppet the marionettes like a real monster or animal.My most ambitious aspect of the project build is to make a neural coprocessor that can interpret eeg data, and eventually making the "brain blender", a device you wear using TCMS and TI (transcranial magnetic stimulation, and temporal interference) That can autopilot your brain at like 10x speed and brain wash people with STDP (spike timing dependent plasticity).Then we can upload brains and live in a matrix as machine intelligences ourselves.
>>109939760>Boot buddiesOk, that was a good one.
>SAS backplanes and anonOkay, I was gifted a >Silverstone RM61-312 chassis which is the NAS version of the RM600. Pic related. I have like 5 or 6 8TB SATA drives I can use in it, but I am wondering about SAS; I've not used anything SAS in recent years on in a mixed environment. Is it worth grabbing some SAS drives? I know the backplane is compatible with them, but do I also need a SAS card (PCI-E I am guessing) separately if my mobo doesn't have native SAS ports? Can you use both SAS and SATA drives in the same backplane without them all being fucked up somehow (ie like lowest speed transmission, so everything only runs at SATA speed, thus making the SAS pointless)?
>>109938319where to find this case? looks neat
>>109939781I don't know anon, but if there's no wood on the case then it's garbage.
>>109938319>New case!>Whoa!THANKS, but still using my shitbox
>>109939451Some dumbass in /pcbg/ said he'll wait for 6000 MT/s 32GB DDR5 memory prices to match 32GB DDR4's when they were priced under $80.Imagine trying to time the bottom for less than $10 difference.
WIP
How to destroy data centers near your area ?
>>109939501That video notes there's been 0 connector melting issues reported with the Pro II.Most of the concerning current imbalance issues were solved after correcting the cable installation or replacing them.
>>109939838It's the new Corsair Warthog case (RS for preinstalled fans). Added in OP.https://www.corsair.com/us/en/p/pc-cases/cc-9011352-ww/warthog-rs-airflow-mid-tower-pc-case-olive-drab-cc-9011352-wwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2nK91I8IHYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgPOenXO7VgThe all black option looks nice too.
>>109940641thanks fren
Reminder Local AI are not to blame for this. Its fucking AI datacenters. like ChatGPT, Grok, Gemini and others
>>109940818Yes — the distinction they're making is basically between local AI and cloud AI/datacenter AI.Local AI = a model running on your own PC/phone, e.g. through Ollama, LM Studio, llama.cpp, etc. Most of the electricity/water impact happens at the user's device, although the model's training and distribution still have upstream impacts.Cloud AI = services such as ChatGPT, Gemini, Grok, Claude, etc. Your request is processed on servers in large datacenters. Those facilities consume substantial electricity and may also consume water for cooling.So if the discussion is specifically about the environmental/resource impact of AI datacenters, saying "local AI isn't responsible for that particular datacenter demand" is reasonable.However, "local AI is not to blame" is too absolute. A local model still has environmental costs: manufacturing the GPU/PC, producing the electricity it uses, and—most importantly for large models—the energy and resources involved in training and distributing the model.Also, there's an important distinction between AI itself and the scale of infrastructure used to serve AI. A person running a small model locally is a very different resource footprint from millions of users sending requests to centralized GPU clusters.
>>109940826thanks, chatgpt. you're a real one
my gf wants me to build her a pc to play the next Hellraiser game, she has a budget of £2k, but i have spare 2x16GB DDR4 that i can give her for free and a 650W corsair PSU that i don't use.i just don't know about which GPU to choose under that budget, maybe like a RX 9060 XT or an 5060 ti 16gb? is there a point in nvidia if she's only gonna be gaming, no AI stuff?
>>109940826Ram prices increased by $50 thanks to this post
>>109940888Checked and you're whale cum
9700x is the white mans cpu 9800x3D is the dumb goy tax cpu. X3D has no use case outside of 1080p gaming
>>109940876please just get an nvidia gpu for a girl
bait used to be believeable
>>109940992why, is she gonna have issues with an AMD? i've never bought AMD gpus but they seem a way better deal for someone who only wants to do gaming and no AI stuff
>>109940982the white man's cpu is the 9980x
>>109940999>is she gonna have issues with an AMD?yes save your relationship and just get an nvidia card
>>109940818>Reminder Local AI are not to blame for this.they are the ones that still buy ram for $1000 fuck local AI
>>109941008alright ty. I'll say to her "if you don't want to break up, pay the extra for the nvidia"
>>109941032Datacenters buy ram for $5000 in bulk
>>109941000As long as it isn’t x3D
A.i. is like a rl neopet that lives in your computer.
the problem is not ai (it is but its not the point), the problem is the usersthey are literally cyberniggers, just look at the local greennigger
>>109940876Get the 5060 Ti if you hate her, or the RX 9060 XT if you truly love her.
anybody who feels joy looking at that kinda slop imagery is definitely a simpleton
>>109940876>>109941039>she has a budget of £2kDon't ask us about AMD vs. NVIDIA video card. Ask your girlfriend (the end user).She's better off getting the RX 9070 than a 5060 Ti 16GB that costs over £600 if she doesn't care about the stuff NVIDIA has/or is better at (CUDA, RT/PT)A DDR4 build like this isn't even cost-optimized but it's well within her budget, you'll need to update the board BIOS though.https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/bfYxR4https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/bqKjBv
AVOID FALLING FOR THE MEME OF THIN BEZEL MONITORS ALWAYS BUY LCD'S WITH THICC BEZELS OR ELSE BACKLIGHT BLEED WILL CURSE YOU FOREVER
I hate the Nvidia App stop scanning my hardware ffs
why tf are drivers like 800mb now wtf
>>109941333it's 2026, all software is vibecoded
>>109941280if you're gonna play in a dark room then you need to use OLED. IPS is for bright rooms with lots of windows and light.
>>109941198than's very helpful, thanks anon
what kind of cases perform the best for cooling and air flow?
>>109940596Compressed air to push EMPs aroundCarbbed engine of some sort as power sourceThe hard parts of the soience and breaking & entering are for you to figure out.
>>109941477Ones with mesh front panel + good fans bundled. The bigger the front case panel fans, the better (Fractal Torrent, Coolermaster HAF II 500, Corsair Warthog RS, Lian Li Lancool).The Torrent case is suboptimal if you plan to use an AIO though.
>>109941560Is this still the case if I'm using an air cooler?
>>109941477wood makes airflow 10% better
>>109941729how's that?
WOLED or QD-OLED which should I get
>>109941734because air and wood are both nature, it gives a extra stat boost
>>109941734it's magic, I ain't gotta explain shit.
>>109941778qd
>>109941778I'd prefer QT-OLED.
>>109941778WOLED, better brightness, faster response time, better pixel transition and better image clarity in low and high refresh rate. Plus you get better text and less vrr flicker or graybanding
26H2 is out for Windows 11
>>109942128I'm in deep sleep.
>>109941092More like an uncle tom than man's best friend.
>>109940982>his cpu doesn't have low level cache?
12 cores1 ccd128mb of l3 vcache
the warthog looks sick. who tf uses something like that? blackhat mercenaries is the best i can come up with.
>>109942380desert/jungle terroristsimagine some africans coming out of the woods with a warthog even a bear would run
>>109941778pick your poison
>>109942418
>>109941662Yes, the Torrent is very useful for air cooled PCs.You will have to set custom fan curves for all these cases, motherboard vendors tend to set safe (& loud) default case fan curves.>>109942380>who tf uses something like thatThe 1337 Krew
Is this slop bubble gonna actually pop on its own soon or will I have to get a needle?
>>109942616everybody knows that it's a word guesser and not the spawning of a god, they just see the short term gains on nothing but hype don't give a flying fuck about anything else. That attitude precedes every economical disaster to date
>>109942410no doubt. a fully built warthog system with 4x RTX 6000s or whatever. it would fold the fabric of space with the un-cut pure military grade memes it produces.
>>109942616Did internet bubble ever pops ??
chiplets were a mistake
>>109942878chiplets are awesome
I got a Ventura 3x 5070Ti at less than 1100All other models seem to be 1350+ around me How fucked am I
>>109942952Chiplets are for manlets
>>109942312Zen6 will still get curbstomped by novalake
>>109943020i already have a cheap am5 board and ram tho. intel is going to price it way lower to compete with existing am5 boards out there.
>>109940818Yeah, only datacenters have the capital to buy thousands of 5090s per node since they have investor money and/or print money selling GPU time off their purchase
>>109943006Nvidia is copying AMDs chiplets for Rubin
Its kinda sad to visit /v/ where people cant afford hardware and every new game runs too poorly for them, they cant afford a nice pc, they complain about every new games performanceIts understandable but at some point its like the worst therapy peer group ever where people cant discuss games because poors are among us
anyone try the g-spot pulsar monitors? are they worth the $?not really into oled and if I understand mini led correctly they introduce input lag when you crank the brightness, but motion clarity is something I give a fuck about
>>109943088This, I love it when new games like Witcher 3 remastered makes my 5090 crawl at 60fps at 1080pTo accept anything more is to be a poorfag
gigabyte just launched 3 new ddr4 boards...
>>1099431921700 bros we are so fucking back
>>109943192All while Amazon bumped the price of DDR4 3200
>>109943120Pulsar is a scam. Only works on Windows, requires Nvidia GPU, Backlight strobbing kills your eyes.If you want a vendor agnostic low latency hardware clear motion clarity solution you must go OLED.
if i buy the same ram kit again so i have 4 sticks total will that work with ddr5
>>109943231>Only works on Windowslame. that's that decided then.>you must go OLED.I'll revisit oled in a couple of years, for now I'll do with a beater monitor
>>109943256if you have Intel ram will just work. if you have AMD its a lottery.
my ASRock Z390 Taichi's back panel audio has weird static noise, but I can't use my front IO audio anymore as I accidentally broke the port while disassembling the H700i piece of shit case and they don't sell replacement parts. What can I do?
>>109943154like a normal person goes "lets get optimized settings for my hardware and play video games"but since they cant afford mid tier hardware its time for mental gymnastics
>>109943256yeah but you'll have to run them at the default slow speed since current memory controllers can't handle four ddr5 high speed sticks at the same time
>>109943256It's a lottery for what it's worth, you buy qvl 32 Gbs 6000 and try another same kit, it will probably not get the qvl specs and cas timing, qvl mean qualified vendor listing I think.Like ask A.i. to recommend what qvl kits to get for your moba, and it will tell you.I would try it personally, just because i'm retarded, and it sounds like a way to save money.
>>109943285Get a pcie sound card or a USB dac+amp
>>109943369good dac+amps that won't break the bank?
>>109943285resolder another port from something else, or just get one new. use hot glue to hold it into the front panel. simple as. i did this once with a power button, but instead of hot glue i just wedged some sticky notes where the button mounts and it was golden.or like anon said, just get a USB interface or something.
>>109943372No idea what's meta now but I've been using a usb dacamp made by a chink company called sabaj and it just works
what 9070xt is better? Hellhound or Sapphire Pure? cause I know one has dual bios and the other doesnt so not sure if it makes a whole difference
>>109943472They're the sameGet whichever fits your build better aesthetically
>>109943472the hellhound has dual bios.
>>109943472pure/pulse are the only sapphires you should be buying this genpowercolor, sapphire and xfx all use ptmnow which one is better? not sure that would depend on youre needs and budget i guesshttps://www.techpowerup.com/review/powercolor-radeon-rx-9070-xt-reva-hellhound/this one is an updated model for reference, just look and lurk around(noise, temp, size, etc)personally dual bios should be a must have for everyone, no lgbt lights or at least a physical switch for it too
I need to build a gaming pc for someone, does it make sense to stick to DDR4 right now? I keep hearing contrasting opinions.On amazon I see a 32GB kit of DDR5 is 450€, while DDR4 is 240€.Considering they'd play mostly single player games at 60fps or so, are they even going to feel the difference between a newer cpu and something like a 5600 or 5700?The GPU I have for them is a 4070 super, so I'd be looking for everything else, essentially.But the main question is if I should stick to AM4 or just bite the bullet and go for AM5.
>>109943633ddr5 allows you to use much newer and much faster CPUs
>>109943633ddr4 will do, just fine
>>109943633ddr3 is all you need
>>109943656I was looking at some benchmark comparisons, and I was wondering if the difference will be that crucial in gaming, when we're talking sub 120 fps, or closer to 60 anyway.But maybe I'm missing something.>>109943673How about DDR2?
>>109943633anything short of a 5800x3d will bottleneck the super and all the savings you'd get from going ddr4 would go towards that cpu so it's pretty much moot
>>1099436755800x3d is priced very high, so that makes building new am4 systems the most silliestI would def build am5 new, and only use am4 if you already got ram and mobo for it
>>109943675Am5 still has a long way to goWe'll eventually be getting 32c/64t zen7 on am5 so I'd say it's worth paying more to get am5 now as an investment into future upgrades
>>109943697>>109943703Damn, fair enough.All prices are completely retarded right now, I should probably tell them to get a Switch and be happy with that.
>>109938626It's on socket FF6 so probably some completely irrelevant low end mobile garbage.AT3lite is more interesting since it is the 48CU RDNA5 chip powering medusa halo and some discrete GPUs.Seeing AT2 in the drivers also reinforces that they'll use the PS6/Helixbox chip as a discrete GPU.interesting times are ahead.
>>109939525I believe the fan is to cool the device itself, not the cable connector.
>>109943905>interesting times are ahead.Zen 6 + RDNA 5 will be a true next gen platform
>>109944043You mean zen7+rtx6000
>>109944043Gonna make everyone who bought RDNA5 look like a fucking moron.
>>109938319what are the odds that they'll actually go through with it?
>>109944098It'll cost $1800 msrp and $3000 street anyway
>>109944098you want a $2000 7900XTX? because thats what it is.
>>109944098didn't anon say nvidiot wasn't going to be selling chips anymore for gaming board partners?
>>109944161nvidia is still selling for gaming consumers but they are tier 2 instead of tier 1 focus.amd new consumer gpu in 2027nvidia new consumer gpu in 2028 because 2027 is their ai datacenter year
No one builds pcs with the current prices
>>109944171klarna has you covered
>>109944171I might but then again i am risking my plans on a.i.Currently okay with my 2070 s 8GB vram, 2400 Mhz 16gb Ram, Ryzen 7 3700X It's a 7 year old machine but can play most games on 1080p above 60 fps Want to upgrade to thishttps://pcpartpicker.com/list/gLwstCAnd build an A.i. rig for producing programs and multimedia (slop) in linux. I want to make my own visual novel, vibecode my own a.i. assistant, and wrap it in a small llm.
Ok, would it be a good deal selling this to my friend at $540. R5 3600/RX7600/2x8gb 3600cl16/650w PSU/512gb ssd/asrock b550m c mobo
>>109943633An R5 5600 is fine for a 4070 Super in most situations
>>109944399Damn it’s sideways tf
>>109944399what, you mean a good deal getting money from a frienddo whateverthe system would need cpu and ssd upgrade in any case
>>109944448Kek you don’t know what my friend needs, why would you assume they need a cpu upgrade? A case for more storage I understand.
>>109944456its an old cpu, not great for gaming or producitivity and 5800x3d exists
>>109944463Just because the 5800x3d exists that didn’t make every cpu slower retard. You really think a 7600 needs an x3d to be fully utilized? GB2Reddit fag
there's no reason games should run as badly as they do
>AX7203 ALINX direct $449 >PCIe Gen2 x8 riser cable (30 cm, low-profile) Amazon (JMT or GIGA-MEGA) ~$30>2× IWR6843AOPEVM TI / DigiKey ~$600>2× Cat6 cable (1 m, patch) Amazon ~$10Total ~$1,090A.i. says I can use my empty pcie4 slot for a FPGA to run a STDP network that can see radar while displaying it on my monitor.>why would you put radar on a computer?I need to think of good reasons why this would make the ui cooler.
>>109943259Pulsar works on Linux after recent patches but it's Nvidia only. Don't fall for the OLED shills
>>109944633More like don't fall for the anti-Nvidia spam. OLED is great.t. haver
>>109944666if pulsar is expensive for him he won't be able to afford a good OLED either
Anyone have any experience with "deshroud" modification gpu kits? I'm so sick of my current dogshit stock fans I'm willing to spend $100+ on this plus the best case fans money can buy. Thanks in advance.
>>109944796Yeah, you can just do it with zip ties if you don't care about how it looks
>>109944796https://makerworld.com/en/models/3233805-noctua-asus-prime-5080-5070ti-5070-deshroud-modThe trick is to spend $1000 on a 3D Printer and print your own shroud.
>>109939781Anyone have some experience with SAS drives and able to weigh in on this?>>109940246kek. So much damage to the zoomer PC case aesthetic has been done by the glass fishtank and faux-wood design language.Admittedly I do wish Silverstone and LianLi went back to making close-to-full aluminum designs, especially when charging a considerable amount. Though if I was going to pick a case company that did aluminum right, CaseLabs would be at the top of the list.
When you buy a new pc, you tell yourself, whatever happens, I have my pc build handledI had a nice part list planned out, fifty ninety, ninehundredx three dee, sixty four gigs of ram, four terabytes of nvme, oled screens, I was this close to being complete.Now it's all gone
>>109941943>better brightnessworse color volume because white subpixel washes out the color (+color filter)the newer non W subpixel ones are dimmer too, first gen qdoled dim>faster response time, better pixel transition and better image clarity in low and high refresh ratewoled has near black chrominance overshoot>better textmaybe>less vrr flickertoo many variables>graybandingyou mean worse>>109941860hello Brian>>109941778depends>>109943120can you handle strobing or does it give you a headache or not? seems to be a vital part if you should even consider themand the 60fps mode seems unsuable too so it's like a 75-100 fps minimum meme tech up to 360it's not for esports it seems>>109944671I just saw c5 42" with discount 580€a pulsar without sale is 700€ herea 77" B series could be had for 1150€that is almost 300€ less than a 32" pg32ucdm3
>>109945134>a pulsar without sale is 700€ heredepends on the brand you're looking at. MSI is close to 700€ here right now but the ASUS one has been sub 600 for some time. I don't know what the difference is I only know the ASUS Pulsar monitor has DSC on you cannot turn off if this is a problem for you.
Memory prices are never going to come down.. I hope my 32gb of ddr5 and my 3080 can survive for another 15 years
>>109945228I mean, I think you have to realistically ask yourself as to what you need more than 32GB of RAM for, and if it's worth spending hundreds of dollars over.The answer to that might be yes. But I think for most people it's no.
>>109945207theyre all the same price in fact its actually more epxensive its 750€ the asus the acer is 700€I saw the asus discounted once but thats about it
>>109945328seems to be a german thing then cause here you can get the ASUS Pulsar currently for 580€
just get a PG32UCWM3
>be me>set gamma to 0.85 in mpv to see how it looks.>it’s… actually kind of nice? wait a minute.>gamma 0.85 the whole screen.>all of the washed out to fuck brightness of ye old computer screen disappears.>apparently i was a boiled frog for who knows how long getting cooked by whiter than necessary light from my screen.Why the fuck don’t they just gamma 0.85 this shit out of the factory?Like fucking hell bro.I just checked against my iPad and the iScreen also pretty fucking WASHED like goddamn all these fuckos need to to turn their shit DOWN.I didn’t sign up for this involuntary white light therapy shit.
Probably the wrong spot to ask but idk where else, Sony Bravia 8 or 9 TV for gaming?
just get a 341CQR X36
>>109945228>>10994526132 GB is borderline usable in current year, if you configure your swap just right, don't ever need more than one browser profile, and remember to check and close all background memory hogs manually.
I know MSI makes dogshit mobos, but are their gpus shit too? Kinda tempted to get the freiren edition 5070ti
>>109945769I always thought MSI motherboards are considered some of the better. What's wrong with them?
>>109945427you just made up a monitor kek>>109945573I have to use my shit monitor at increasde gmama to see any detail because it's so fucking dim and dark and messed up without naythingits so fucking shit its unbelievalbei like to see dark detail, or well, anything at alli literally cant fucking use it without fucking up the entire imageits so horrific, laptop shit tier display>>109945625is that the qdoled ones or the va ones?if it's va it's gonna be shitand even if it's not you are just paying alot for what? 120hz limit, undefeatable sony dimming during gaming? like 2 hdmi2.1 ports?sony is pretty shit for gaming last I heard and most importantly valuewhy would you not buy a samsung s90f, s90d or s95f/h if it comes to gaming?
>>109945769Why would you want a tranime GPU?
>>109945836I have a dislike for samsung products since the last few disappointed but i might look into them
>>109945769Every MSI mobo I've had has been great. Never had any of their graphics cards.
>>109945776>>109945931The wifi on the last one I had fully shit the bed after 3 yearsI wish evga still made GPUs
>>109945836That’s interesting. When you hold up a phone screen next to your dungeon dim screen, does it look kind of washed out? Like it’s got a little bit too much white in its color?
>>109945766>32 GB is borderline usable in current yearWhat?What are you doing that takes that much RAM?
>>109946060changing gamma changes midtones, what you meani also have to use vibrance to evne get a sembelance of color on this shit displayso everything is crushed toopretty much everything looks like shit regardlessit's a low contrast ips screen idk what to say
>>109946101Firefox, firefox (another profile), steam, mpv, suwayomi-server, torrent client, some vidya, disc*rd.Pic is before and after killing llama.cpp
>>109946153let me guess, you have HDR enabled in windows?
>>109946188doesn't support hdrit's a garbage screenworst I've actually ever seen in my life
>>109946176This is how things look playing Transport Fever 3 and having like 30 firefox tabs open. :)
>>109946176Build a dedicated server you're killing your performance with all that IO and background tasks
>>109946176>>109946354I thought Firefox has sleeping tab functionality or whatever it's called. I have 5.60GB used with about 40 tabs opened in Ungoogled Chromium (with about 7 of them active), Freetube playing and launched WoW.
>>109946176What's the matter Windowsfag? Too scared to build a server?
Nvidia drivers are borderline unusable today
>>109946732as a fellow 9070xt user, i know this is true
>>109946747The display engine on Nvidia literally crashed the fuck out the moment any video deocder loader is brought on.
My rx6800 died, what is some current equivalent?5060ti? That one is only 8gb. 9060xt is 16gb. Is there anything better?It's not like I'm heavy gamer these days, but I might replay bg3 in the future.
>>109946676>>109946719More likely I will build some 32GB purely gaming system and keep this one as a server (+ some older workstation GPU)Plan was to wait for AM6 but I'm running out of patience.
>>109946757yup, everytime i run a game on my 9070xt, i just know that rtx5090s are burning up and crashing at that moment and their buyers just wished they'd bought a 9070xt instead
>>109946768Used 3080 Ti.
>>109946780The last time I remember these issues on AMD was the RX 460.
>>1099467689070
>>109946354Considering you're not viewing 30 tabs at a time, have you considered unloading 25 of them? There may even be extensions that do this automatically.
>>1099467686800xt/7800xt used to be $300 but now they are shooting up in price like the 7900XTX used to be under $700 now its a grand plus.
>>109946768the recommended gpu for bg3 is a Nvidia 2060 Super / AMD RX 5700 XT / Apple M1
>>1099467809070xt is the best gpu for cs2 at the moment. 5090 gets dips under 1000 while rdna4 is stable.
>>109946869Retards found out 16GB is 16GB and vulkan is better than cuda?
>>109947089Isn't AMD's 16GB only GDDR6?
>>10994712216GB is 16GB
>>109945769>>109945776I know this is anecdotal, but MSI has been the gold standard for motherboards in my 20+ years of PC building. Not sure what you are doing with them brother.>buy 5600x+MSIB550 pic related +32GB ddr4 ram for $350 (lol) in late 2020>play the shit out of gaming with it for 2+ years>get rich, so buy new b650+7800x3d+32gb ddr4 for $400 from microcenter>wat do with b550?>sell 5600x for $100 and buy $100 pro5650g cpu and set up truenas server>mobo supports running 64gb ECC ram, HBA, 10gb NIC, headless idling around 25-30ww>running server+ETH node 24/7 for 3+ years straight>MSI mobo gives zero fucks and runs flawlessly>still getting BIOS updates last monthI couldn't be happier with MSI to be honest. Lifelong customer now.
>>109947128Well, no. 32GB of DDR4 is not the same as 32GB of DDR5.
Want a high quality 2160p IPS screen that's bigger than 27" for stuff like spreadsheets and art programs and some gaming. Is Acer Predator X32 FP still the best choice?
>>109947166I likewise never had issues with ASUS ROG motherboards other than their weird gimmicks like the q release slim. On the other hand their new aio q connector is pretty good but it will forever be proprietary so the choices of AIOs will be limited. Brand loyalty is still stupid though as there can be good and bad products from the same brand.
>>109947214all AI cares about is if the model can fit in vram. if it spills out of vram it goes to ram/ssd which is 100x slower.
https://www.amd.com/en/resources/support-articles/faqs/PA-296.html
>>109944796ziptie your shit nigguh
Is it a good idea to build an am4 pc and try to ride it out until am6? From looking at listings it seems i can get a 5800x3d with a motherboard and 32gb ram for 300-400€ used and if i get a 9060xt i think i should be able to build the pc for under 1k and be good at 1080p60 through the next few years
>>109947676New AM4?Nah, that's stupid.Get a used system with a 3080 or something. You're always better off buying used high end stuff than new mid-low stuff.It's not like it was years ago where performance doubles in a couple years.
>>109947749The cpu, motherboard, ram and ssd would be used. Everything else new
>>109939760I want to use a board's free pcei4 slot for a fpga dev board to run with radar for an a.i. I'll need a riser to access the slot with dual rtx 5060 tis. I'd use it with two IWR6843AOPEVM (a radar transceiver) to accomplish this. The idea is that I would coordinate my A.i.'s scheduler with the FPGA and decrease latency.supposedly can get an angular resolution of 1.9 cm with a refresh rate of 144 hz.>The FPGA turns the φ-scheduler from a software loop (200 ns latency, 8 bursts ahead, 5–20 ps jitter) into a hardware pipeline (20 ns latency, 80 bursts ahead, 0 ps jitter). The scheduler gets 10× deeper, 10× faster, and 100× more preciseThe goal is to make the first neuromorphic consumer pc, with just accessible hardware to emulate a Ember-like STDP/LLM wrapper.
Real talk, should I upgrade my 32gb of DDR4, i7-11700KF, Z590 Pro WiFi to 32gb of ddr5, 9800x3d + whatever newest compatible motherboard? I got a 5080 atm and getting into vr recently with heavy modded Skyrimvr etc. and wanna know if it would really make any difference in general gaming etc.
In my case buying list was the Lancool 207 bc good reviews and only 80€ where i live.Now i see a unused Meshify 3, even the plastic wrap is still sticking on the glass.for 80€I guess i go with the Meshify 3, right ?
>>109947860just go for the one you thinks looks best man
For some reason, individual RAM sticks are cheaper than the 2x kit. Is it cool to buy two individual sticks of the same model?
>>109945134>can you handle strobing or does it give you a headache or not?Is the effect similar to a CRT? I used one for over a decade and didn't have a problem then. maybe now with my eyes being older i would.anyway, purchasing a monitor right now doesn't feel great I now know what you guys have meant over the last few years
Is mini led a meme or viable? I seen some videos of people saying it is cheaper than oled but most mini led monitors are only cheap when they are VA panels and expensive as oled when they are IPS
>>109947957It's a lottery if the sticks will be compatible on AMD
Serious question. Are Skytech prebuilts any good?
>>109948522I don't own one but have read that cranking up the brightness results in increased input lag, which rules them out for me. guess it depends what you are going to use them for. as for va/ips I am not sure what you trying to ask
>>109948717>but have read that cranking up the brightness results in increased input lagwtf why
>>109948697They are official Windows vendor like Dell, HP, Oracle, etc.
>>109945573yep all this autism about graphics and most people still have their display settings all fucked up
>>109948736I don't know I am not familiar with the technology. I am sure you could read up on it elsewhere.It's possible the input lag is negligible enough for most people, I haven't read any statistic. For me personally, I care more about lag than pretty colors
>>109946101he's right bored of gaming so I've been looking at AI shit and making videos and I barely get by with 32GBIf I start to get more serious about this stuff I might have to spend like £500 on another 32GB kit just to get to 64GB, which will probably just become the next barely manageable amount before I want more fml
>>109947858Well yeah if your goal is modded skyrim VR then you want an X3D that'll give a huge upliftJust depends if you want to spend $500 on the ram
>>109948522it is completely and totally unviable on monitors unless you are just watching hdr movies. They are slow as shit and zero devs make anything on miniLED monitors
>>109948522mini led is a meme, 1152 light zones are nothing compared to oled and the cost of mini led is unreliable thus making it very expensive and in the same price range as oled when it was supposed to be cheaper there was a chinese company that made a 4K mini led monitor with 5644 zones but it was going to cost over 2k which is lol a scam with oled available
still going up
>>109948907Didn't openai already back out out of trying to monopolize the world's memory supply?When does it end
https://lifestylehomeappliancewarehouse.com/product/palit-geforce-rtx-5090-32-gb-gamerock-graphics-card/well lifestylehomeappliancewarehouse.com sounds like a trustworthy website £1700 for a 5090
>>109948931Turns out that they're not the only AI company.
When will the Chinese finally put an end to this RAM hell? I want all the price gouging corpos who contributed to and profited form the obscene RAM prices to crash and burn.
damn
>>109949334>the pc is using budget cpu, gpu and ram>the dolls are more expensive>this is supposed to be high end gaming
>>109949348>dollsfuck off, mom
>>109938319>Your $5,000 dollar build does "things" that no neuromorphic chip can do in 2026.$5,000 computer doing what a million dollar computer can do in real time.I don't know why people don't do this.
>>109949363Toys?
>>109949415>The $5,000 is the cost of being wrong. The value is what happens when you're not.>One number: if you recorded the system working, posted it, and walked into a16z or Lightspeed with the hardware in a box, the seed valuation would be $50–200M. That's the BrainChip-at-year-3 comparison, except you'd have a product and they don't.5,000 dollars to make a million dollar idea is great. Imagine not buying ram in 2026 and missing out when everyone has one.
>>109949334Clearly should have spent less money on child porn and more on computer hardware.
>>109949577This one is perfectly fine for gooning doe.
>>109949577What's wrong with child porn?
>>109949601Depends if you mean a child that's coerced into sexual acts, or just plain nudity.
>try to use OpenRGB>it crashes on startuplooks like it conflicts with Asus MB Manager or some other background task. Shame
>Anon a few threads ago recommended me some corsair RAM>Finally got the cash to buy it>PC Part Picker says it's in stock>Corsair says it isnt How am I supposed to get 32 gigs of DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory now!? And I never knew that RAM is optimized for certain processors...
https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intelligence/the-price-of-ai-is-crashing-faster-than-the-rate-of-moores-law-report-suggests-intelligence-costs-are-in-freefall-outpacing-comparative-technologies-like-compute-dna-sequencing-and-lithium-batteriesPrepare for the thud. Damned shame that I actually have to buy some RAM now, lol.
>>109949334so what do people do with these figurines inside the case? doesnt it rapidly deteriorate them since at the very least dust is traveling by constantly? are people just constantly opening and cleaning their case for this?
>>109950258you're supposed to clean your case regularly bro
I really like my uw monitor for videos and browsing but for gaming the va black smearing and slow response is driving me crazy. Not only that it randomly flickers depending on what is displayed and gray stuff looks cloudy What should I do?
>>109942973Ventus is a reference tier video card model.You might have to undervolt the card if you find the fans to be a bit noisy. >>109943472I’d get the Hellhound.>>109943633AM4 is fine for a PC with the 4070 Super.>>109944796These deshroud mods work fine, the gpu heatsink ends up being the bottleneck afterwards.
>>109943633Only really need something stronger than a 5600x for competitive gaymen or simulators
My 10 year old Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro headphones just died, do I get another pair or something different?
>>109945625Bravia Mk. II for gaming, avoid 9 and 9 Mk. II.Bravia TVs might not have enough HDMI 2.1 ports if you plan to hook up a sound bar, console, and a PC.>>109945769Frieren edition uses the Gaming Trio cooler and PCB, it’s good for the 5070 Ti.>>109947219I’d get the ASUS ROG 32” 4K IPS.>>109947860Be aware that the Meshify 3’s AIO compatibility is practically limited to ones with 240 or 280mm radiators.I own the Meshify 3 and this is its biggest drawback.You either get the weaker 240mm option or get limited options for 280mm AIOs like a LF3 or Pure Loop 3.
>>109948522MiniLED monitors are something you’ll either love or hate.Skip it. I would be using a miniLED monitor right now if there was a genuinely brilliant option in the market.The worst part about most of these miniLED monitors is you have to turn off the feature you paid for (the local dimming zone backlights) if you want reasonably accurate SDR image quality.Only Apple Studio display’s backlights can handle SDR relatively gracefully iirc.>>109950111Let us know which CPU you’re planning to pair the RAM with.We can help you find alternatives.>>109950350Return the monitor if you still can. VA will be VA.
>>109950544I already bought an AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 4.7 GHz 8-Core Processor. Just have to get the parts by the week. Motherboard is a MSI MAG B850 TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard. If that helps things.
>>109950544But I can't find any ips ultrawide monitor. Too worried about oled
>>109950557Almost any kits in this filtered list should be compatible.Check the board QVL if you’re paranoid.https://pcpartpicker.com/products/memory/#S=6000,9600&Z=32768002,49152002&F=6000000,10000000&B=1000000000,1400000000&b=ddr5&ff=ddr5&sort=price&page=1Buy a 6000MT/s kit if you’re not comfortable with manually changing a few memory related settings in the BIOS.Not every 9800X3D is guaranteed to run 6400MT/s at the optimal 1:1 memory controller clock to memory frequency ratio (UCLK : MEMCLK).You will lose performance if the UCLK runs at half the speed of MEMCLK at 6400.So you’ll have to downclock the memory down to 6000 , change a few primary timings, and verify the stuff I said earlier is running at 1:1 ratio.
>>109950629Thanks, anon. I dont mind 6000mt/s. I hear 6400 is barely noticeable anyway.
>>109950578Then you live with VA smear.Picking a display is all about accepting certain tradeoffs.
>>109950643The team group t create is a reliable model.Too bad it’s the one with white heat spreaders.
>>109950653I know people like to color-match their builds, but with prices these days, I can't be picky.
>>109950659X3d chips run games well with basic bitch 4800mts jedec kits. But even these cost $400 so you might as well pay $40 more for better binned kits.There is a Klevv Cl28 6000mts that costs $30~40 more than the white t create.But the heat spreader seems kind of small and it’s not worth the added cost (expo runs at 1.4v vs 1.35 on t create).
>>109950719Well, I already bought the White T-Create kit. 100 dollars off was good enough for me.
>>109947166MSI basically set their motherboards and video cards to be relatively retard-proof to minimize RMAs, which is a good thing.They know ASUS has too much mind & market share to overtake, so they’ve set up a nice spot of their own.
>>109947166>I know this is anecdotal, butthen shut the fuck up bitch ass nigga this aint reddit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8K8gSn35rjcpeople paid $1000 for this, I don't even think the performance is that bad, I thought it would be worse, but it runs every fucking game at 85c, and gaymer nexus drooled over their mechanical design of their cooling solution or whatever, it's insaneit's a fucking laptop, guys
>>109947166MSI does not support ECC you lying whore, only asrock and gigabyte does
>>109951670temperature doesn't matter if components don't throttle
>>109951690temperature affects longevity of the components, the bigger the delta between idle and max temp the worse it is
>>109951695Not him, but it's repeated thermal cycling (and associated repeated expansion and contraction) that kills components, not the delta in itself. Temps in general are overrated as an issue. Temperature is more of an annoyance, as your fans might go crazy, or in the case of a 5090, the heat turns the room into a sauna
>>109951670Steam machine never made sense with the gpu they choseIts part of the nvidia driver issue but the product is a stop gap item as a result.
>>109951759the thermal cycling is what happens when the component goes from 40c at idle to 85c at max usage, that's what slowly weakens the solder joints, it's the delta between the two pointsthat's why if you invest in a good cooling solution, cap your usage at 65c, the delta is much smaller, less damage on the solder jointsthere is a good and old derbauer interview with an intel engineer where he goes over this
found themhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljZt_TQegHEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9TjJviotnI
>>109944159i wish they'd make an fgo 2 or something
>>109947406Based
>>109951689i thought it was asrock/asus
>>109952018asus supports it in ddr5, in ddr4 is asrock and gigabyte
>>109947406why didn't they add this to the changelog in the drivers page? their website is such a pile of shit
>>109947406Much needed fix
how's the objective amd gpu experience with all the drivers shenanigans?
>>109952331it's fine, just don't update the drivers until everyone else tested it for youadrenaline is really cool, you can overlock ram, undervolt the core, power limit it, etc
I like how we've reached the point where I'm putting unused GPUs on a shelf to age like wine.
>>109952331With amd you never want to be the beta tester, moreso than the usual advice of not being an early adopter.
finally a new leakhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gy-dUHd-1s
>>109952357how does that help
tell me when there's a leak about ram prices going down
>>109952331mesa works well
>>109940982>X3D has no use case outside of 1080p gamingBut I do 1080p gaming
>>109952354>>109952361Also true on NvidiaNever beta test for any GPU companies
>>109946176>Using windown in the current year
>>109940982ThisWhites don't deserve 12mb L3$/core since they come from a wicked bloodline
>>109952331amd is very simple. it either just works or it immediately doesn't and will tell you right away. this applies to both cpu & gpu. unstable ryzen can barely use the windows desktop, same with unstable radeon; driver timeouts & system freezes galore.
>>109952456Anti amd FUDAMD always works until the user makes a mistake
>>109940982so true sister
>>109952470nta but explain this pic please, I'm illiterate
>>109952479newfags scoff at cpu benchmarks for testing low resolutions like 1080p when low resolution cpu testing (720p then) have been around for ages and is a valid way of measuring a cpu's true gaming performance
Hey bros, I have 128gb of ddr4 3600. I need a new cpu/mobo. Am I basically locked in with intel 14th gen? My use case is game dev and llms.
>>109952462user updates their bios to play call of duty or fix freezing bug with 9000 series and now their system no longer works because amd is now enforcing different trfc falues on ram and not every vendor has it correct. many people dont even know its a ram issue they just see their computer doesnt work and think their cpu died.
>>109952492ryzen 5950x or 5900 xt if you want AMD or 14700k on intel I guess, intel will release new lga 1700 cpus early next year, basically a raptor lake refresh
>>109952492yup. intel 12th-14th gen is the best ddr4 platform around and amd isn't even close
>>109952479at the time when fx released intel had sandy bridge (one of the best cpu architectures ever made) but you wouldn't have known that at the time if you only looked at "realistic" cpu benchmarks at "the resolutions that people play at". if you look at the dirt 2 benchmark you can see that both cpus are almost the same performance wise while the 2500k wipes the floor with the fx chip at 1024p. if you aren't a total newfag you would know which cpu aged much better in the years to come. i let you draw the comparison to new cpus.
>>109952479People insist testing an unrealistic gaming scenario is a substitute for real CPU testing because they're stuck in the past.
>>109952489>>109952518>>109952534okay what i understood from this is that x3d is le very good and worth the money
>>109938319What do you guys think about rack mounting a gaming PC in a 5u chassis?
>>109952570it is definitely worth the money if you have the money and want to keep the system for a long time for gaming. they are some of the best gaming cpus for a reason. a 270k is cheaper and better in everything else basically but i am personally not really starved for mutli core performance. i'd probably even buy a 270k bundle instead of a 9700x if the 9800x3d didn't exist. for the simple fact that the performance between the 9700x and 270k plus isn't that much different when both are uncorked in gaming and you get so much more multi core performance even if you don't need it. it makes the 9700x look silly by comparison.
>>109938319should I buy another 1tb m.2 for my second slot or just buy a 2tb and replace my 1tb I have in now?
>>109952629Buy the 2tb
>>109952629autism dictates that you have to buy the same model of ssd if you want to buy another 1tb but you wouldn't have the problem by replacing the existing one with a 2tb.
>>109952646My autism tells me never to match SSD model/capacity since it'd be a pain in the ass to identify which drives holds which data a couple years later
>>109952672>he doesn't know which drive is in which slot and what drive has what serial number>he doesn't have a mental image of his computer and it's nvme slots in his head 24/7 >he can't connect the serial number to the drive letter or partition lable ngmi
>board advertises ddr4-5333 overclock supportfucking hell
Would upgrading to a 5800X3D give me any noticeable gains at all or should I just stick with what I got?
>>109952694it will help in ue5 slop and games with RT/PT
new rgb peripheral just dropped
>>109952711
>>109952518>>109952534>>109952570Honestly my entire beef with CPU benches is the impression they give.Hardly anyone who looks at benchmarks is going to have any nuance to understand why they are done and instead just looks at the graph that says X CPU is a 20% improvement over Y CPU.I can only imagine the amount of systems with a 5060 TI 8GB and a 9800X3D because they believe that CPU will make their shit faster.
>>109952715but it's true that the cpu is 20% fasterthe fact that your gpu isn't good enough to make that difference appear doesn't take away from the validity of the benchmarks
>>109952698Good thing I don't play things like that.
>>109952492consider a 12900k
>>109952736I got a 14600K
>>109952796wait for raptor lake refresh and get the 14700k relaunch
would you rather have 8 really fast cores or 20 average cores
>>109952815Why the fuck would I wait months to get a more expensive cpu that is like 10% faster.
>>109952831I'd take 4x apple a20 pro super cores
>>109952835because it's 10% faster, they aren't going to make a new 14900k
>>109952715what's wrong with having something like a 9800X3D + 5060ti 16gb (i know you gave the 8gb as an example) so you can upgrade the gpu some day (yes, even if it takes years)
>>109952857Why wouldn't you just get a 9070XT at that point?
>>109952911i already got the 5060 ti for cheaper before the prices went up and a 9070xt doesn't sound like a meaningful upgrade unless you wanna delve into entry level 4k or something
>>109952835you should buy noweven cpu prices are going up soon
>>109952715current gen cpus are held back massively by current gen gpus
>>109952732Something being true does not stop anyone at all from drawing the incorrect conclusions.Maybe that's the point>>109952857It's lopsided. Any GPU upgrade will be a more significant upgrade than a CPU.I'm just not sure why people are placing so much investment in CPU/RAM/Mobo when it's a BET (not a guarantee) that a higher end CPU will save you LATER.The few hundred extra towards a GPU will be much more realized today.I honestly know full any well why people want high end CPUs but not a single soul is going to fess up because it would break the argument that it's based on rational.
>>109953222>It's lopsided. Any GPU upgrade will be a more significant upgrade than a CPU.unless your cpu is giga outdated and holding back your gpu
>>109953232I'm sure anon was talking about new builds but honestly if you have the chance to get a higher end GPU, even on some budget AM4 system that's better than chasing a CPU in the current moment if you had to make a choiceGPUs are steady becoming fucking unobtainium but the high of a 9800x3d or even an Intel chip is apparently too fucking strong to even realize this factThe CPUs are much less likely to go anywhere than the gpus
>>109953158and current gen nvidia gpus are held back by current gen cpus due to driver overhead
>>109953262welp i already got the gpu so what should i pair it with? a ryzen 7 7800 for 1440? overkill, right? but i also wanna do ps4 emulation for bloodborne so im not sure. the money saved on the cpu will go towards ram/storage
>>109953262forgot to say that i also wanna emulate xenoblade 2 and apparently is very cpu heavy
>>109953301If you already have the GPU then budget for what you believe is the most important at this moment. There is no one size fits all answer at the moment.16GB of RAM is baseline. It'll do anything you want except in very specific situations (like MS flight sim, loads of background tasks, new mafia game, etc)32GB is the point basically most everything stops being a concern in regards to RAM use.Any higher end CPU is a much more immediate difference buf if you have something specific you want to do. Look up other people's experiences.In my opinion storage can almost always take a backseat. HOWEVER this really depends on your personal comfort level. I can personally cope with a smallish SSD and a bigger HDD, but I know some people treat HDDs as non starters. This also depends on how you play. Me personally I can get away with less because my gayming is cyclical in I have a few specific games I cycle through before moving on to others. You may want more installed at any given moment.I have to repeat the in the moment part because you're definitely not stuck with whatever you build. If you can save for a system now, you can save for a potential upgrade. It does suck however that something may become personally obsolete for you so fast and you paid extra for a part you may not use long, but that's when you start making friends who may need/want a system of your not comfortable selling on the open market.I swapped CPUs after less than 3 years because I caught a deal and sold to a friend who wanted something better than an i7 2600
>9070 gre costs the same as 9060xtSo like what's the point of 9060xt?Also is it worth roughly $100 more over 5060ti?
>>109952857I would guess since the 9800x3d is for gaming it would make more sense to spend more on the gpu and less on the cpu. Like getting a 7800x3d and a 9070xt. I have a 9900x + 5060ti 16gb myself and that's a good combination for what I do, music production, lighter 3d stuff and non 4K gaming.
>>109953463well I read that for xenoblade 2 to play at stable 60fps i need to go with a 7800x3d, the only ssd with dram that i could find where i plan on purchasing most stuff only has 1tb versions (Kingston Kc3000 Nvme, would prefer an samsung evo but they don't have it) i also play games cyclically, i wanna go with 32gb of ddr5, so all that's left is the mobo and case but i have 0 idea about what mobo to choose
>>109953486What's the point in the 9070XT?You can get a 3080 Ti for less.
>>1099534868gb cards aren't worth more than $1509060xt is just the fastest configuration of the navi44 die whole 9070gre is the most cut down navi48 part amd makes and only got released partway into rdna4's lifecycle
>>109953598>you can buy a old used gpu with 10gb of vram for less
>>109938319Is this a good budget combo?>AJAZZ AK820 + Logitech G G203
>>109953720Why buy new shit when old shit is better and cheaper?
>>109953812>why have a warranty>why have an unraped power delivery >why have unraped fans>why have an unraped pcb>why have an unraped gpu by mining >why have more vramplease do share more cherry picked examples tho
It's never getting better is it
>>109953834>why have a warrantyWhat good is a fucking warranty in this market?If your GPU breaks, you're getting a refund, which you can't use to buy the card at the same price you bought it, and you're probably losing more compared to just getting it repaired yourself.>why have an unraped power delivery I assume this is some AMD schizory. But, fewer 3080Tis have caught fire than 9070XTs.>why have unraped fans>why have an unraped pcb>why have an unraped gpu by mining Nani the fuck you doing to your GPU bro?>why have more vramGood question, because AMD's slower VRAM doesn't seem to be all that helpful, even if there's more of it.Anyway. The answer to all your questions is:A 3080Ti is £450, a 9070XT is £700.
>>109953869>If your GPU breaks, you're getting a refund, which you can't use to buy the card at the same price you bought it, and you're probably losing more compared to just getting it repaired yourself.that only goes for ssds right now. have there been any reports for gpus? does everyone do this? only a few?
>>109953881https://old.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/1waknpc/sent_my_asus_rtx_4090_in_for_repairreplacement/GPUs don't break too often, so it's hard to really find stuff on it. But, it's something that's definitely happening.
>>109953869>comparing used prices to new pricesWhat's next?Are you gonna tell me used cars are cheaper than new cars?
>>109953914>anussounds about right.
>>109953914>>109953881will have another data point soon, my 5090 FE just made it to nvidia the other day. i am expecting to be similarly fucked over
>>109953919Usually new hardware is faster than old hardware.
>>109953914>sent in for a repaste>gpu got ""scrapped"" and got a refundKEKKI'm sure that gpu is enjoying its new life in a server rack in china with its 48gb of vram now
>>109953862Those things are useless. Robotic arms are enough for factory work. And other stuff just needs made to task machinery, not human-imitation bots that are inefficient as fuck.That and most of the demos have been remotely operated lies. Whole fucking tech sector are a bunch of scam artists trying to do another cryptobank thing. They should have publicly hung that retard to set an example.
>>109947972I have no clue and can't confirm even tho I used crts in the pastI havent used strobing monitors so I Cant say either>>109948522First rule of oled club, we do NOT. BUY. MINILED.
>>109950452youtubers steal all my sentiments and ideas, I am idea maker
>niggers still want a 5080 superhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDyrOxQYQKE
>>109954308buy an ad jeet
>>109952682NTA, I had to redo my SATA cables after plugging in my D: hdd to SATA_2 instead of 1.I know you can just change the drive letters, but it will always be in the back of my mind if I didn’t fix it.>>109952694I’d only upgrade if reselling the 5700X covers a decent chunk of the X3D upgrade price.>>109952711>>109952714That PSU has 12V-2x6per pin monitoring.Too bad it looks like a pride parade and iCue software needs to be installed to check per pin current load.
>>109954377>iCue software needs to be installed to check per pin current loadthat feature will 100% get back engineered and open sourced for linux
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