Science editionHow to request advice:>Budget>Intended use (media, source, environment)>Frequency response preference and music examples>Past gear and your thoughts on themFAQ:>Where do I buy IEMs?Amazon, Aliexpress, Linsoul, Hifigo, Shenzhenaudio>Shopping Guide (IEMs, PMPs, Cables, Ear Tips, etc.):https://consoomer-guide.pages.dev/>/iemg/'s Journal:https://iemgazette.pages.dev/>EQ Guide (EQ 101, Targets, Myths & Misconceptions, Papers, etc.):https://iem-eq-guide.pages.dev/>Measurements:https://iem-eq-guide.pages.dev/measurement-databases/>Budget Wire Over-Ear IEMs:• Tanchjim Bunny DSP (Mild U/5-Band PEQ) - $22• Tangzu Wan'er S.G 2 (mild V) - $20• EPZ Q1 Pro (V-shape) - $35>Bullet IEMs:• Tanchjim Zero Ultima DSP (Mild U/5-Band PEQ) - $22• Sony IER-EX15C (Warm/Dark) - $30• Etymotic ER2XR (Towards Neutral) - $140>Flathead Earbuds:• NICEHCK Vido (Warm) - $5• Yincrow X6 (Warm) - $10>USB-C DACs:• JCally JM6 (Non Pro) / CX Pro - $8• JadeAudio JIEZI (10-Band PEQ) - $18• TRN Black Pearl (10-Band PEQ) - $38• Qudelix 5K (20-Band PEQ/GEQ) - $110>PMPs:• HiBy R1 - $85• HiBy M300 - $200• TempoTec V1 - $110>AVOID USING:• Mainboard audio when using multi-driver posPrevious Thread: >>110167338
/iemg/ Dogma Check Tired of the hivemind? Here’s your prescribed sanity dose:>Crinacle is not your priest.Rankings are a guide, not divine scripture. Your ears > his spreadsheet.>Harman and JM-1 ≠ perfect.It’s a preference curve, not a law of physics. Some genres need deviation.>Chi-Fi isn’t magic.Great value, yes. Immune to QC issues and hype cycles? Nope.>Graphs are not sound.They don’t show staging, dynamics, or fit. Use your ears, not just squigs.>BA ≠ metallic, DD ≠ perfect.Implementation matters more than driver type. Always has.>Meme sets aren’t the whole hobby.If it’s not shilled 24/7, it might still be good. It's highly encouraged to form an original opinion.>Disagreeing ≠ cope or deaf.Let people like what they like without foaming at the mouth.>Loud posts =/= smart takes.Confidence without experience is just noise. Show graphs, impressions, or both.>Cognitive dissonance.When you're presented with a truth that threatens your entire perception of the world around you, your brain will simply refuse to process it.This has been your scheduled break from pos groupthink.
>>110184496Doesn't know what EQ is btw.
Roached the fuck out>>110183618>>110183779>>110184451
>>110184486is there any point using the entire setup for IEMs? Looks like you only need the ears
>>110184501>>110184529Fakes measurements btw.Pretends they win every interaction while getting called out on being a lying sack of shit btw.You have an amazing ability to be in full denial even when under scrutiny. Enjoy the cope
>>110184540For IEMs you don't even need the ears.>>110184551You officially have no ballz from now on.
You fags lied to me. I can't hear any difference with or without a DAC (plugging it directly to my PC).
>>110184564I accept your concession. You officially are a liar, fake and a fraud from now on.
>>110184583Too pussy to ask ASR whether the photo is a real >>110184451No argument and no balls.
>>110184595You're literally the pussy who won't post the .mdat files that prove me right.You stalled and bullshitted so keep sitting there like the smug cocksucker that you are, you literally are the biggest clown in this hobby. And don't worry, ASR will chew you up and spit yout out in total agreement with me on how much of a fraud you are..It's truly absolutely amazing you're playing this game. All you have to do for an ounce of credibility is post one file. You won't, fucking coward
>>110184621The file is right there. You know what you have to do.
>>110184646Upload it so we can check the metadata
>>110184660I'll upload it to ASR so we can all check the metadata. You don't have REW so you'll need help anyway.
You won't. You are mentally incapable of that much accountability.You fucking lost so goddamn hard baby, just give it up. No adult actually digs this deep a hole for themselves unless they are truly a mental midget.
>>110184669Avoiding accountability. You're cooked
>>110184679>>110184685From now on you're designated as a castrated slavehttps://files.catbox.moe/w8bmli.mdat
>>110184694I'll include it the ASR post as well as highlighting the flaws. Not like everybody won't immediately point them out anyway.
>>110184719Go ahead. Total roach annihilation.
>"make a post on ASR and I'll post mdats to dunk you">posts a catbox link to a completely fabricated .mdat file>impulse response has blatant, causality-violating pre-ringing from steep software FIR matching/IFFT windowing>background noise floor is a sterile, mathematically perfect digital zero because no real world microphone or preamp hiss exists in the data>claims to have used an EQ slider to physically alter the acoustic air resonance properties of a solid metal 711 tube.you didn't re-measure shit with your rig. you just ran a digital filter over a static text file, hit "export MDAT," and prayed nobody knew how to read digital signal processing artifacts. unmitigated, falsified cope.
>>110184572If it's a 1DD IEM and there's no hiss from the PC then there won't be a difference. Some multidrivers like Nova don't change much from output impedance but most of them do.
>>110184766Roached the fuck out + used AI to look at a graph again award.
>>110184603CSD is their flag.
>>110184772Yeah, it's a KBear KB01. The only real difference is volume level. I have it at 12 with DAC. Oh well, I didn't have a dongle anyways.
>>110184782you just handed me the absolute proof that you fake your graphs.look at your own waterfall plot. the frequency response literally falls off a flat vertical cliff right at 8kHz down to a perfectly straight, digital zero line. there isn't a single pixel of microphone hiss, fan noise, or room ambiance on that entire graph you fucking buffoon. all you did was run a digital filter over a text file, hit export and prayed nobody would actually understand it.>bragging about owning a chink clone 711 coupler just to post a desktop simulation because you got caught lying.You're banking on high hopes that everyone else is ignorant while you have your head up your ass getting actually caught.this is peak /iemg/ and you know you love it. just wait till I post this on ASR for you
>>110184831Now click the distortion tab and make sure the noise floor box is checked :)
Castor is still great
Get your $3 Castor and own the paypigs.https://a.aliexpress.com/_mO4w61thttps://a.aliexpress.com/_m02WuNthttps://a.aliexpress.com/_mrbQ1mrhttps://a.aliexpress.com/_mrNbJft
"Ahhh I don't know how to use REW, clanker, give me strength"
>>110184850you're still bluffing. the math still says it's fake
>>110184884I accept your concession
This bitch is done. Next she'll show us how to EQ DNA and swap genders.
Don't fall for the buying IEMs over $5 meme.
>>110184905>>110184910Ask ASR how to use REW. You can't handle it.
>>110184912Roached the fuck out >>110184719
The science is dead, long live the science.
>"You don't even have REW">"But click the distortion tab and do this and that since you have REW"Foxshit, you really are a wormy cocksucker.
>>110184918>>110184929cope and seethe harder. you got caught in a lie and no amount of shit flinging can save you.
>>110184942Roached the fuck out >>110184719
>>110184938>I don't know how to use REW so you're wrong This really isn't turning out how you hoped it would huh.
Oh my science
>>110184946No amount of circular thinking and repeating yourself can save you either. I caught you when nobody else could because your bluff is literally just bullshitting until someone actually catches you. I feel vindicated. You probably have a headache. I'm boutta EQ my espresso to perfection
>>110184971You roached the fuck out and you know ASR is gonna cook you lol.
GUYS THE SCIENCE JUST CAME IN AND IT AGREED WITH MY OPINION EVERYONE UPDOOT THIS RIGHT NOW
>>110184976Oh yeah? Fosho fosho? You're in lalaland
>>110185021>Oh yeah?Absolutely. Since you're such a roach I'll post it myself when I'm bored.
>>110185053You would try and hurry up and do it yourself so you can word it how you like and attempt to save yourself. You're an actual narcissist and you're scared. Talk about 'roach out this, roach out that', you just admitted that you want to make the ASR post yourself so you can control the narrative yourself. Coward
>>110185089You know what you have to do roach boy. I'm giving you an incentive to hurry up.
>>110185101Yeah ok coward this isn't a race. You have no control. You have no credibility. Go fight God if you're so bored
>>110185109Dance for me if you don't want me to get bored.
>>110185101Running cover to do damage control lmfao you can't make this shit up. >"I'll go post my measurements before you do so you can't make me look bad!"You're squirming, lying, cheating and I'm embarrassed for you. /iemg/ deserves better than a sniveling cheat like you who is an actual schizo/narcissist. Fuck you're so pathetic
This is OP, guys. A chick with an EQ'd dick
>>110185125>I'll post on ASR about you>ok hurry up or I'll do it myself >n-no you can't do that!Bruh
>>110185143This isn't fucking disneyland, retard. I caught you. Whew boy
>>110185150You caught yourself with your pants down when you failed to find the noise floor in REW. Just another moveable points moment.
>>110185160Oh my wow good catch you sure fuckin got me in a big one whew boy how do I recover? Shut your bitch ass up, you're stuck in your own lies and you regress into a child-like state whenever you get called out. You'll never recoup the emotional labor spent into this hobby and it's apparent, seeing that you're a literal shell of a human being.god fucking damn I'm embarrassed to be in the same thread as you
>>110184766>>background noise floor is a sterile, mathematically perfect digital zero because no real world microphone or preamp hiss exists in the datayeah AI wrote that one for sure
>>110185234>Oh my wow good catch you sure fuckin got meMany such cases.
Premium eartips just came in from Japan. Pentaconn.
>>110185410You finally gotted them njce
Why is science so good, bros?
>posts measurement>"uh fake!!!11!!">posts .mdat>"uh made up!!!1!11!"and this is not a retard, this is just the average person you find on the streets.
>>110186074But the average person is retarded.
>>110185847scoience hasn't been good since the nukes dropped.
>>110185847if science is so good, why is harman in ear target so bad
>>110186291You've been gaslit by listener and armchair experts into thinking it's bad, but in controlled blind tests people love it.
>>110186291>>110186322The fact that 3 different studies (4 if you count porting Harman to 5128) got roughly the same result makes me think that this is what normgroids actually like. I can use my own target while recognizing it's not normal.
$5 Shitbud Alert
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>>110186322Meanwhile DMS is still saying it's easier to say what's good for over ears while there's ZERO good over ear targets for 5128(DCA tried with a controlled listening test but failed) and the regular Harman target was made for different ears than what every reviewer uses. Headpos users are a lower grade of humans I swear.
Be honest why should I get a dac if I can't be bothered to get fussy with this or that iem. Or should I just use my iem with my phone that has an earphone jack and be happy
Sorry I meant dap
>>110186592>>110186625daps are for zoomzooms with "phone addiction"
>>110186625Its gimmick, like 90% of audio. Android ones are bit pain - they are thick, outdated, really not that portable if u need to carry it around with your phone. Smaller ones are paint with larger libraries and usually dont work with streaming.I think simple dongle dac is still better option for majority of people
>>110186592If you want something smaller than a phone. Or something with a better battery life than a phone. Or if you want a lot of storage(some fit two sd cards).
https://www.usaudiomart.com/details/650366895-cayin-ru7-dongle-dacamp/
what is stopping chinks from buying storm, taking it apart, copying it using cheaper components, and selling it for a fraction of the price
>>110186893They are already doing it for something with more techs. Storm is outdated.
>>110186893better idea, just autoeq edc pro to storm
Moondrop Cosmo sound so good bros
>already racked up $12 in coinswhen next sale
tfw you can own the world's best iems, edc pro, dawn, castor and ed9 pro all for under $10
>>110187154Is it science?
>>110187220rat
>>110187259>nigga did I just catch you havin fun
Have you circumcized your cables?
>>110187220>tfw you can own the world's best iems, edc pro, dawn, castor and ed9 pro all for under $10Being 80 years old with dementia and cancer?
>>110187291dangerously esl post
>>110187285redpill me on earhooks, will removing them increase techs?
>>110187285>removes ear hook casing>wraps them over the ear anywayy tho
>>110187326Only if cable is thick and girthy, and plugs are slick and metal
>>110187326>>110187358For me it wraps around the ear much more evenly around the ear without the hooks, better comfort. Also it tangles much less.
>>110184856>>110184871Under $30 gets you: TRN Black Pearl, Kbear ST12 4.4mm, foam tips and KZ Castor>tfw to smart to spend more than $5 on iems
>>110187400Foam tips = self-report that the sound and/or comfort is shit. + mold.
>>110187411hmmm nah
>AR3000 thread on headfiBurn-in exists, folks.
>>110187285i dare not cut into kilobuck cables>>110187326nah. maybe indirectly due to fit
I need some closed headpos for my work computer. Rec me something budget to midrange for EDM and animu music
>>110187658Small-ish ears? Beyerdynamic DT 270 ProBig ears? FiiO FT1
>>110187658Only $55 https://store.hifiman.com/index.php/he-r9-refurbished.html
>>110187706china's best con artist
>>110187683>>110187706It dropped from $600 to $60 for a good reason.
>>110187733The reason: so /iemg/ can buy them up.
Are there bluetooth earhooks worth getting now? Last I checked they were all mediocre.Considering the Fiio UTWS17 but that shit is expensive.
>>110187994AZ09
>>110188116Are you satisfied with that combo? How much power in mW do those ear hooks provide?
do you use your IEM outside?
>>110188139Every day
>>110188116Wrong 2-pin connection, but PR2s are planar kings, nonetheless
>>110188139No I use my wired apple earbuds
>>110188116Ok but I have to ask, do you currently or have you ever been paid by the KZ corporation? Note that it is a felony in both India and China to lie in your response. That would result in a punishment of either a lifetime of forced toilet usage or 10 generations of ancestral humiliation respectively.
>>110188182you would think KZ would use a proper s / c / qdc type connector
Day 2 of not hearing any difference after upsamling to DSD
>>110188436KZ just sends me and my friends and /iemg/ IEMs for free. So I guess? We're all paid in IEMs by KZ.
>>110188436That fat faggot has been relentlessly shilling KZ garbage for the last 4 years because he gets paid and IEMs for free. Never listen to him.
>>110188783>>110188716Technically it's Xi Jinping paying for the IEMs.
>>110188571Just checked, and they offer two different pin types for the AZ09.Anon just so happened to buy the wrong ones kek
Follow Rat's Wisdom >buy kz >hit play and enjoy the music
>>110188819>buy oxygen>replace drivers with edc drivers>sell oxygen>???>profit
>>110188870This one looks nice
>>110188862That nigga was known as the darkest nigger on the planet
>>110188920Finally you posted one good pos. Ts pretty good if you like neutral. At that $4.44 price it's a steal.
>>110188945>pretty good if you like neutralOh nice, do you have one?
>>110188122Kinda, az09 is rated 4mw @ 32ohms but it's like a high gain amp. It's good enough for multi-drivers. VX Pro+ had the same soundstage on it as wired. Differences become apparent when you start upping the bass, otherwise az09 is fine.
>>110184766Realized it wasn't entirely a hallucination but that I forgot to export my convolution EQ as minimum phase, hence the preringing. FYI you can make your IEM linear phase with convolver just like I accidentally did. Here's a version without ithttps://files.catbox.moe/2v42qa.mdatIt's not too late to make a post on ASR yet.
>>110189232Was curious what all the wobblies before the actual impulse were about with the IR you made too.
>>110189232But I find it interesting you choose now to bring that detail up....
>>110189265To not waste time making each filter manually I divide a flat line by the measurement(in trace arithmetics), that produces an inverse of the measurement. Then I do it again to increase the accuracy a little and merge with the first inverse through A*B. Then I export the impulse response of that as wav and apply in APO through convolver. I just forgot it EQs the phase too. The delay was severe, about two seconds.
>>110189313and then you pretend to measure it. we know
>>110189322Why would I pretend to measure it when it's one click to measure it again. I don't even take it out of the rig to not shift the resonances.
>>110189356>Why would I pretendPeople bullshit and lie all the time, it's certainly not unique to you.
>>110189388In this case it's easier to take a real measurement.
What are you guys' thoughts on the USB-C wired Apple EarPods? I bought a pair a few days ago and I'm shocked at how much I like them for non-sealing earphones.
>>110189407>best in class mic>best in class comfort>best in class looks>best in class soundEnd game for its form factor.
>>110189274I almost got bored enough to post it. Almost.
>>110189407might be good if you autoeq it to dawn
literally cant listen to music without bass boost eq turned on
>>110189446That's why we rec Black Pearl and ST12 4.4mm. Castor benefits from it.
>>110189407The thing with non-sealing headphones is huge variability in sound between users so all impressions of them are pretty much worthless. If you like it enjoy.>>110189446I fried a pair of flatheads with 18dB bass boost but I enjoyed it while it lasted.
>>110189232>you can make your IEM linear phaseChuzo, where you at.
>>110189434meaning you're itching for the attention. I know, it's all you crave
>>110189465>4.4mm
>>110189434and the only reason you would post it yourself is for damage control and to control the narrative. you know it, I know it.
The EQ headroom of dongle dacs elevates Castor to endgame
>>110189495Said the man that roached out of posting it 3 times.
>>110189504yeah yeah yeah keep repeating yourself and trying to save face. credibility is shot
4.4mmdongle daccastorfoam tips$30 goes a long way
>>110189519>credibility is shotYeah, you're the biggest in pussy in the thread right now. Broke literally all of your promises lol.
>>110189533good one. you get uppity like this and dare to use the phrase 'roach out' on whoever puts you in your place. there's just so many words that hit the nail on the head with you, and 'cope', 'projection' seem to work the best. you keep it up
>>110189565You sure put in me in my place by not doing the thing you thought would put me in my place.
>>110189533this is hilarious coming from an actual fraudster. jesus man, get bent
>>110189569right. I'm going to go by your rules. on your schedule. fuck you
>>110189572The fact you don't know how EQ works doesn't stop it from working.
>>110189583If you aren't going by your rules >>110183443 might as well go by mine.
>>110189584you're the 1 anon who gets this irate, this asshurt, takes it this personal, etc.nobody innocent would revert to this sort of behavior if they were honest.you, my friend, can't take the heat.
>>110189601You're literally on a months-long meltdown over EQ working as intended.
This kills the paypig.
>>110189621>below 0.056%Negative level of techs.
Castor and Chu2 won.
chu2 is shit had to turn the bass all the way up
>>110189572>>110189583>get bent>fuck youtotally not a sore loser btw
>>110189657Chu2 needs amplification
>>110189662bet you got the first dopamine hit in months typing out, "you're the biggest pussy, blah blah"weak.and emotional
>>110189635This is why you PEQ in techs by autoeqing kilopos THD into the Chu2s. Tea pros, Mega5est, Storm, your pick.
need my audio thick warm and bassy
>>110189691The meta is plugging a low THD iem like edc pro into Black Pearl and hitting the autoeq
"you don't deserve mdats" is crazy
>iemg arguing back and forth>asr arguing back and forthThis is peak lol
>>110189685>you're the biggest pussyThat is just an objective fact though.
>chink QCkek
>>110189927More of a headpos thing.
My right ear is physically incapable of getting a seal. What are some good foam eartips I can try?
>>110190380Try xelastecs, they kinda melt to take the shape of the ear. As for foams I don't know, they're all disaposable.
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Remember, you want low THD iems like Castor, Waner2 or Chu2 to autoeq on your dongle amp.
>>110189927UH OH
>>110190380>foamTry going up a size on your silicon tips, or extra grippy ones like dunu, or flange tips
>>110190380maybe XELASTEC 2 for its "self-molding" to the ear or Acoustune AEX70 for its slime-like softness or maybe pic related for its unique shape could help
>>110186721I bought an Xperia 10 that has a jack and an SD card slot so I shan't be needing those flimsy dongles
Which pos have an in-line mic?
what are u consooming on black firday/month/11.11 sale?
>>110189927that's grim
>>110192135probably just eartips, at least the new dunu s&s pros (new ms size) and rococo.
>>110191975Just get a mic cable https://aliexpress.com/item/1005008705991039.html
>>110191975mic is in cable, not in pos
>>110189706I'm gonna do it. I'm already writing a post...
>>110190380my ears have different size holes too, medium left, large right. i use nicehck p03, tri clarion and narrow bore tang sancai nobles but L for both sides because they're malleable enough that they fit medium earhole then expand and big enough that they hold well on large
>power trips>microphone became very quiet even with gain in windows and other apps maxed outI think i just need a mix preamp to fix my current issue, but I was thinking of using this chance to get an all-in-one audio interface as I dont have a headphone amp either, anyone have experience with the focusrite scarlette solo gen 3?This would be used as a daily driver for gaming
do you ever think about how surreal and bizarre it must be like for ASR guys to walk around at canjams? people booking hotel rooms and flying in to hear differences that dont exist. people spending their lives tuning nothing and displaying that unironically. people shelling out thousands just to own some eq profiles in oversized shells. i feel like few people appreciate these contrasts, even themselves. you'd basically be Neo walking around the floor
>>110193513mfw I autoeq my Castors to all those products instead of buying anything
>>110193574Doesn't have even 1% of these techs.
>>110192135idk, chu3 and vader. maybe ill try getting an artti t10 for $40
$54 currently
>>110188593You don't have a pre-fire AK4497/4499 or a Benchmark quiet class A power amp.
>>110193830>higher than $5paypigging??
>You simply cannot expect enormous headroom from a 38 mm driver. From a technical standpoint, this driver cannot produce healthy sub-bass output without running into physical limitations. 40hz roll-off starting point is pretty much like a gentle dc-protection.Techs are nothing else but physical capabilities of the drivers. Backed by science from ASR. All you guys BTFO.
>>110190415>>110191574Thanks, I will look into them.>>110191176I have tried a trillion different silicon tips from many sizes. Except for flanges, don't like them.Even if I get a seal it either doesn't stay or is very uncomfortable (like the Dunu's, which are also turbo ugly).>>110193169I already tried the p03 and sancai nobles, they're fine, though not perfect. But most importantly the sancais specifically don't match my iems aesthetics and also end up slipping after 30 minutes or so. In my case, I have smaller ears so I often need to stick to S sizes.In any case appreciate all the replies and suggestions bros.
If I want iems like Kiwi Ears Cadenza II but with more punch to it, which ones should I go for?
>>110194480bass shelf
>>110194171every time I buy a $45 shitbud, my average increases by $1 :(((
A safe average is $5. You should be supplementing your collection with $0 shitbuds which will open up to more $20 multi-driver IEMs and planars while maintaining the $5 shitbud philosophy.
>>110194561You should have 1 good IEM. If you failed to get a good IEM the first time you should learn from your mistakes and try again.
Some of my favourite IEMs are worthless. Ruta10. Zero2. Kunten. Need I say more?
>>110194615lost 5usd on kunten - first and last time i bought something based on reddit. I even found one of this shitty eartips from it in my drawer and it went liquid like rubber on old dual shock sticks.
peeps should just buy a $5 shitbud and PEQ it to perfectionwhy buy anything else
>>110194641Not enough techs for you?
>>110192135i want to get the li zhi, but probably wont end up getting one anyway.
>>110194615I thought you hated Ruta10? I always thought it had the comfiest looking shells
>>110194744not enough build quality, eartips were straight up shit
>>110194744If your IEM doesn't break the 1% barrier it shouldn't be anywhere near the techs conversation.
>>110194583My first modern IEM is 1st gen cca cra
>>110194800Ruta10 is tiny and is fine after you EQ out the default tuning. But then again so is Bunny. Maybe I have to take the cutting earhooks pill to appreciate them.
>>110192135More blocks for more techs.
I fell for the meme
>>110195276Wow, Bunny has never received such pure bits before!
>>110193159>damage controlyou're roaching out and showing us your true colors
>>110195389Simply can't get lower THD than a $5 shitbud. Praise KZ. Praise Moondrop. Praise Tanchjim. Praise Tangzu.
you know what they sayno THD no techs
>>110195532I just stack 10 foobar DSPs for more techs.
>>110195422You're scared shitless of me doing the thing you threatened me with but you still can't bring yourself to do it because you're scared of what ASR will say. That's what they call "the raped".
>>110195422>>110195563I think you're taking this whole "audio science" thing a bit too seriously. There is nothing scientific about buying Chinese e-waste products.
>>110195563>scared shitlessdawg. I said I was going to do something.You decided you wanted to be in control so you can fabricate the narrative and save face.You have no idea how this looks on you because you're full of yourself.You want to word the post your way so that it doesn't look like what it really is, and you know it. /iemg/ knows it. It's like begging to tie your own noose
>>110195611>I said I was going to do something.Any minute now.
>>110195623You didn't even provide the correct .mdat, by the way. Shit is the wrong date- you fabricated it. They will be able to tell. I'm posting the fake IR of zero 2 to ea500lm you made also.
>>110194641Reddit was actually right, shilling a $5 shitbud was the best course of action. Kunten with EQ was dethroning kilopos and reviewers got people to buy it before the revision.
>>110195667Nothing wrong with that date. Another moveable points moment.
Kunten with a micro planar. Maybe I'll get this on sale.
do intra-ear buds exist?
>>110195804Flatheads?
>>110195810no, this
>>110195821
>>110195804Cochlear implant
>>110195838woa it do really exist! does it hurt? how wonder how it feels like
>>110195848does it hurt?
It would be extremely painful
just found a kilobuck flagship selling for half its rrp that im actually willing to paypig for.will still try to lowball it though.
>>110195907I hope it's brand new. You will get pos aids otherwise.
>>110195270Fox blox, endgame.
>>110196253g20s any good?
>>110196269Immense improvements to the faceplate techs. Slightly bigger and better print quality. The part that leads to the nozzle is thinner. The same comfort as g10, slightly better even. The sound is the same.
>>110195907Just autoeq waner2 to it
>>110195998i've actually bought his wife's used panties before and they were pretty much brand new (worn a couple times). im actually wearing it now.
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Reasons why $5 shitbuds are endgame1. Costs $0. Price is inverse to quality. Infinite quality.2. 0.05% THD in Chu2, Castor, Bunny and Waner2. You pay extra for distortion.3. Paypigs defeated.4. Smallest form factor.5. Scales with dongle dacs and cable upgrade for EQ headroom.6. No defending your purchase on the Internet.7. Treat friends and family.8. It's $0 no matter how many you buy. 40 pairs is still $0
>>110195389Resampling is the opposite of pure.
>bought tanchjim zero ultimas>they finally get here>plug them into my pc using my 3.5mm to usb dongle/dac/whatever you wanna call it>constant quiet static noise starts up and doesn't stop no matter whatwell this was a giant waste of time i guess. i'm not buying a 100 dollar dac just for these. i can't use these on my pc lol ffs
>>110197080Looks like you need TRN Black Pearl.
>>110197080apple dongle
>>110197170i have a ugreen one. i can't imagine an apple one would be any better
>>110197193It is much better.
>>110197209apple doesn't have a 3.5mm to usb a broski
>>110197217>apple doesn't have a 3.5mm to usb a broskilol what is type-c, broski?
>>110197217Bro...
Just got this pos
>>110197247>>110197270>buy a 3.5mm to usb c then a usb c to usb a donglenah
>>110197297Jcally ap7 + type a to type c cable.
>dongleforking in 2026
I plug my $5 shitbuds into Cayin RU7 to ensure they have the EQ headroom to autoeq kilopos at their best.
>>110197384>he's worried about headroom when the real issue is noise floor
I use my TRN Black Pearl in NOS mode with Poweramp upsampling to DSD256.
>>110197448
IEMs are solved.
>>110197286Mini-review:Sound is shit but comfort is goat. Whatever new driver they're using in this is shit.If zero 2 comfort is a 5/10 then these zero 3 are a 10/10But if zero 2 sound is a 10/10 then these zero 3 are a 6/10Ps: there's essentially no lip so your tips might fall off
>>110197499Oh and I find sibiliance in these whereas I don't hear any sibiliance in zero 2. Of course YMMV there but just a heads up. (Also for me both bass and treble extension is better on the zero 2)
>>110197499cable status?
>>110197536It's alright. I guess better than the z2 since I changed cables on that but the one on the z3 is fine.
>>110197499>If zero 2 comfort is a 5/10 then these zero 3 are a 10/10>But if zero 2 sound is a 10/10 then these zero 3 are a 6/10So it's another case of a company accidentally makes a goat sounding iem then instead of improving the comfort they change the internals. Why are they so incompetent?
>>110197473My condolences.
>>110197554comparable to gate cable?
>>110197567they wanted to shove the old driver into the new shell and call it a day, but it resulted in wildly different sound, so crinacle said: fuck it, we're using the crinear driverbut from which pos the driver comes? crinacle:>from...and just barely stopping before saying the name of one of his expensive pos, he then corrected himself:>no, I mean it's just a driver, a driver that I madecomedy gold lol
>>110197499>chu 3pos>zero 3posI'm scared for the waner 3
get sonix os if you have an r1 or r3pro IIit is so good, its fucking sick. billions of quality of life improvements. I also have an r3 II and since that one is not included I dont think that one will be used much from now on. fml
>>110197889>billions of quality of life improvementslist five
>>110193388>focusrite scarlettAvoid. If you absolutely want an audio interface, get way more inputs than you think you need.
Mid Tier$5 shitbuds$10 shitbuds$20 shitbudsHigh Tier$3 shitbuds$4 shitbudsTop Tier$1 shitbuds$2 shitbudsGod Tier$0 shitbuds
does this guy really sit in this general all day every day making a post every 30 minutes about "$0/$5 shitbuds"
$5 shitbuds are just that good.
>>110197936>see little album art when scrolling track lists>arrange any icon/hide anything you dont use>no sluggish jank bs when skipping in waveform of long tracks>display waveform instead of normal track bar>delete tracks from playlist>swipe to restart or turn off, no 321 bs>show tracks by year>show tracks by most played>turn it into dac which wasnt possible before>stream internet radio>stream podcasts>type in qwerty no more t9 if you dont want, t9 is still there>queue management>battery management, only load to 80>scrolling is not janky af anymore>bulk add tracks to lists/favourites>rotate screen if want>remap buttons>customize volume stepsdude, I mean, bro, I mean, it just goes on and on.It has a fkn gb and gba emulator on italso bunch of audio options and eq stuff, nos, but I have no idea what nos even is.
Kunten, Bunny, Chu2, EDC Pro, Waner2 and CCA CRA are legendary $5 shitbuds. No kilopos ever came close.
>>110189528>>110184871This is the new meta.
>>110198149Nobody cared about KZ while you were gone and nobody will care about KZ when you will be gone.
>>110197816Chu2, Waner2, Zero2, Kuntenv1, CRAv1, PR2v3 and EDX Lite revision chads, we made it just on time. How are we always right?
>>110198254debunked by 5 second desuarchive search
>>110198254cope>>110198286It's no wonder, really. People know what they are hearing. Everybody else is either deaf or their brains are warped.
I basedjak'd so hard when Kunten was being shilled hard with it having the same driver as the Zenith, a slightly more expensive shitbud and when it arrived it was indistinguishable from edc pro, another shitbud that made me basedjak so I autoeq'd it to storm, mega5est, tea pros and other meme kilopos distortion cannons and the techs blew me away out of my 4.4mm dongle dac, I basedjak'd so hard and I knew this was endgame, everyone on youtube and reddit sniped that shit on release and not even 2 weeks later they put out the red wire revision and the fun was over. absolute legend
mfw paypigs get excited for kilopos not even half the fotm $5 shitbud train
>>110198310We knew how good we had it and that it wasn't going to last. Now they're set to be scalped on ebay if they stop production. Chu2 was never supposed to be a meme new old stock item
>a week of full blast shilling>all new purchases are completely unrelated IEMs Tyvan fire this retard.
>>110198447>>110198254mfw PR2 went from $20 to $40
I am once again asking for soft & slim 2pin cables
>>110198414I'm saddened that my PR2 wasn't one of the ones with a mesh, but it's no big deal since I received the final iteration of it. PRX is a step up in technicalities either way.
>>110198479Gate cables
>>110198502Honestly EQ probably sounds better than the mesh
>>110194300I had xelastecs, they do kinda reshape a bit but don't expect them to "mold" to your ears, certainly not to the extent foams would.They're super grippy though they'll stay on just fine.
>>110198059that's too long how does it compare to poweramp?that's my standard for features and UI
just buy waner or chu and eq bass way up and treble down
>>110198514Wish I could at least try one for myself, but oh well. The PR2 does surprise me, how relatively smooth the treble actually is. My initial hearing of it was, "oh wow, I can hear background room ambience/noises clearer than what I'm used to now", which can be attributed to the treble response, sure. But PR2 just gives the impression that it's not trying to jab me in the ears with treble. The only IEM I've ever tried that was too smooth in the treble was Xuan NV. Was a stinker.
>>110198554PR2 is a subbass iem for me. It gets the V shape done right. Very good for electronic music and fine details. Sometimes I'll just put them on just to hear some albums differently.
>>110198554Also you can try foam tips, PR2 actually comes with them
>>110198606Yeah but KZ foam tips are trash and fall apart within a year.
>>110198622Foam tips are a few dollars now for 6 pairs lol
>>110198601>Very good for electronic musicPRX and PR2 are perfect for electronic music
The THD of PR2 also makes it ideal for autoeqing to kilopos if you're into the whole spending more than $5 thing
PR2 was a legendary $5 shitbud that deserved to be shilled every hour for 6 months.
>>110198865>THDIrrelevant for most things. Nobody complained about PR2's THD. Instead, they praised it's tonality more than anything else.
>>110198254^Bodied that freak.
>>110198971nobody complained because the techs (thd) are through the roof on that thing!!!
>>110199103I bet you can't cite more than one source of THD measurement for that thing?
>>110199161There's only THD measurements for the mesh one.
>>110199162wrong. https://www.ixbt.com/live/digs/obzor-kz-x-hbb-pr2-planarnye-naushniki-novogo-pokoleniya.html
>>110199172>2023kek
>>110199189>no meshkek
>>110199202That's still v2, not v3.
>>110199221How do you know that? Regardless, it's still a non-mesh PR2. With measurements. Meaning, >>110199162, is still wrong.
>>110199238Come back and share with us when you find measurements for the IEM that /iemg/ actually has.
I EQd to JM-1 and it sucks wtf
Any good upgrades to the Truthear Hexa that are similar? Something with a touch more bass perhaps£100-150 budget maybe more if I can snag something good around Black Friday
>>110199253Giant dodge. You don't have to admit you don't know the timeline, but pretending like you do and trying to salvage the notion on a false pretense isn't the own you think it is.And do you understand English or are you just a retard? You stated there are no THD measurements for PR2 without the mesh.I showed you one. From the very reviewer with the very measurements you swear by to win your 'arguments'.
>>110199309^ >Bodied that freak.
>>110199309>>110199317Ok but what does this have to do with our PR2s?
>>110199254Just EQ to pure and adjust bass to taste and call it a day
>>110199359I accept your concession. /thread
How was this statement wrong in any way again >>110198865PR2 autoeqs to kilopos extremely well.
>>110199371I think you're confusing me for someone else. You agreed with my statement. I guess I'm accepting your concession too.
>>110199382Nobody argued against it because it was too retarded a statement to begin with. >>110199390Let's trade concessions. Mine's a rare holographic concession signed by Floyd Toole
>>110199399We can both agree PR2 was a legendary $5 shitbud that deserved to be shilled 24/7 while it was still $10-20 before coins and coupons.
>>110199421
>>110199421PRX kinda beats it in techs though.
What's the verdict, /iemg/? Does Kunten really sound like $70?
>>110199461Kunten was more like an EDC Pro with better techs. Now Kunten Pro is supposed to be the upgrade.
>>110199477Also I think the Kunten Pro driver was designed to be in the GK Streak, so I'll probably buy the Streak instead.
sub $10
>R2R"Planar timbre" solved
>>110197952>AvoidYeah I figured it being 2/3rd the combined cost of pre-amp+phantom power+headphone amp was too good to be true.>interface, get way more inputs than you think you need.Explain, is it common for ports to just die on audio interfaces?
>>110199853Also is there a more appropriate place to ask about amps/preamps/audio interfaces? Feels wrong here and doesnt deserve its own thread
Are Final IEMs still worth a look?Some of the older models are being dumped for cheap prices.
>>110199461Kunten sounds like nothing because it's stealth revised dogshit just like every other stealth revised KZ dogshit. Actual scam company.
>>110199973>>110199973>>110199973
>>110199956We knew it would be, that's why we shilled it so hard.
>>110199992We know your business model is to scam people yes.
>>110199996Quite the opposite but ok.
>>110199999>send reviewers a golden sample>remove everything expensive on the actual release>move on to the next model when people discover it>repeat
>>110199853No, but you'll realize that the inputs aren't enough when you start thinking of adding more instruments, especially if you want stereo. You might want to separate DACs from audio interface, I'm not sure there's a perfect all in one solution.>>110199875For audio interfaces ,you could try /prod/ in /mu, it's way more dead than here.
>>110200014/iemg/ practically preordered Kunten. After the fun was over, it was obvious to tell people to stop buying it.
>>110200025It's been obvious since CRA to never waste money on any KZ product ever.
>>110200035dawn, edc pro, kz vibe x, libra x, kunten og/streak, castor, ed9 pro, sonata, decet, pr2 and as16 are goated though
