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Visiting a regular tomorrow, I have her number. I arranged with her madam/friends. Need advice.

When I've visited her before she gushes it's always a nice surprise. But she also said one time I can tell them my name so she is prepared.

What's better? That it's a surprise and might be more intense or that I write to her, let anticipation build and let her prepare? Really conflicted, because when she tries it's amazing sessions but when she's out of it it's such a waste.

>>28394268
It sounds like she wants to be prepared so I'd tell her in advance.

what websites do you use? Im in FL

>>28394284
You think so? She did make a whole point about what a nice surprise it is to see me. But yeh, maybe it's still a nice surprise I'm coming.

She's genuine in this regard, I'm clean, not fat, groomed and not that demanding of her. Obviously a dream regular. Not that she likes me, I'm not that dumb, just that I'm the type of client she wants.

>>28394268
>Visiting a regular tomorrow
for massage?
for escort?
what is the problem if you tell them your name? Do you think she'll treat you special or know she doesn't need to 'show up' to impress?

i would always error on giving them your name. Thats what i'd want

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>>28394302
>Im in FL
i'm in the panhandle.
> tryst
> skipthegames
> if i want to long shot slumming, listcrawler.
> won BIGLY with seeking because most "professionals" are shit for the region. If you're not in Miami or Tampa, you won't find any quality pros

I used to live in NOLA and used
> tryst
> privatedelights
> preferred411
> slixa and eros.

Being near the beaches here, there is a glut of young girls that don't have the money for the lifestyle the want

>>28394414
Massage, but she blows me (which I can confirm she doesn't do for others).

Well it's cause she says she enjoys when I surprise her. So I figure it might be more spontaneous and genuine. Which is more enjoyable.

I supoose in a way you're right, telling her I'm coming is probably a safer bet.

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>>28394425
>>>28394302
>>Im in FL
call me a faggot, but I've been meaning to get to this one
https://tryst.link/escort/jade-jayden
but she's expensive!!!

also, to go down to Miami for VIENNA BLACK ($1500/hr)

i'm that massivefaggot in the previous threads thats always trying to talk deep and being old
>(here's more shit stories)
if you are involved in the community just by being active, you'll be acclimated to all the girls working, they'll likely tell you their real names and real life problems....
its a trip watching how FAST the lifestyle eats them up. Observing the girls that get strung out, go to prison, die. Its a trip being involved with something on the bleeding edge of human misery.

> Had one that I was seeing where her husband showed up (at the hotel)
> had one that I saw that worked out of that motel filmed in "Dallas Buyer's Club"
> one that I was a regular with that eventually got clean from heroin only to see her at the end of last year where she's just given up on life completely
> one that invited me to her daughter's birthday party
> two different ones that traveled to spend the weekend at my house (to visit the beach)
> a few that (because I worked in healthcare) that I looked up their entire medical history on (lol...whooops)

>>28394449
Eurofag here, how the fuck is that 1500 dollars!? Dear lord! She's not particularly attractive...

>>28394510
>how the fuck is that 1500 dollars!? Dear lord! She's not particularly attractive...
yeah, tell me about it....i think that's like a circus attraction thing. Super Bimbo.
Raters are all over the place in America.

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>>28394509
>the previous threads
hopefully this helps
Find 'em, Fuck 'em,
tryst.link
privatedelights.ch
skipthegames.com
listcrawler.eu

previous threads
https://archive.is/L7S7E
https://archive.is/kbSRs
https://archive.is/dS8FI
https://archive.is/4AF7C
https://archive.is/0r2W4

>>28394449
i would but that's way too expensive. im not looking to spend more than $300.

She says she swallows cum and fucks without a condom. Isn't this a guaranteed STD?

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>>28394632
>not looking to spend more than $300.
well, then.....have i got a gal for you
https://tryst.link/massage/amberglow

>>28394713
you mean to tell me that you guys are regularly shelling out $1000+ for plastic abominations? thats retarded

>>28394745
>you mean to tell me that you guys are regularly shelling out $1000+ for plastic abominations?
normally its $300
> $400 - 500 for good looking ones
this is one that I would go multi hours with
https://tryst.link/escort/msdevyndeveaux
worth every penny

>>28394449
Doesn't she have a website where she posts some sessions too?

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In my twenties I traveled the world, mostly SEA and south America mongering everywhere I went. I did this back in the backpage-days which is sorely missed. I fucked every ethnicity except blacks. Wont touch those.

After that I got married and had a family and I've been a good boy. But I really fucking miss it.

I'm soon about to go on a rare business trip to Berlin though and I'm gonna size the opportunity. I've been trying to look around but all I can find is brothels/sites with mid chubbies, fake profiles or off the charts expensive girls. I'm looking for good looking young escorts (under 25) and I'm willing to pay a bit more for it, but I can't seem to find it. Anyone know where to look? Would really appreciate it.

>>28394775
>Doesn't she have a website where she posts some sessions too?
yeah, she has her own site of porn and fucks fans
https://naughtyjade.com

>>28394449
she's that expensive because she's a literal porn star, she operates independently and has her own website where she pretends to meet up with "fans" who are subscribed at the top tier to her site and win a lottery that she does,

>>28394785
You can fuck porn stars for about the same price. Honestly, that's what I've been doing lately. They're more honest with their work

Had my best experience with a hooker so far - also my last i guess... feelers get in here

>tall, model-tier blonde with cute face
>pay standard
>get GFE, kissing, BBJ for free because I guess she likes me / I'm not some fat slob or whatever
>she is really sweet
>she sucks my balls too
>fuck her
>coom
but all I ended up thinking is where did we both go so wrong, this would be a girl i could gf, why do i pay for it, why did she end up like this, you just know it's just a transaction, feels bad man
back to trying to find a gf
guess this whole hooker fucking thing works for some men, but not for me.

Man im in a relationship but have been fantasizing about fucking escorts for so long. Extremely tempting when you can just pay a really hot girl to do every fantasy without shame. I am pretty into femdom and my gf is completely vanilla. I just want a dominatrix to fuck me up. Probably a bad idea though.

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>>28394812
>guess this whole hooker fucking thing works for some men, but not for me.
Yeah, I'm proud of you anon. You dipped your dick in and realized the truth. Quit, you're prone to meaningful relationships. Hookers are not capable of providing it to you. Even the most convincing one are only convincing because they lie to themselves all the time.

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>>28394827
>1735156507125125.webm
gottam thats hot. she cries later right? please tell me she cries. Any source I could look this up?

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I got a latina hooker pregnant and deported like a decade ago.
>Be me
>Spanish, young, blond, blue eyed, 182 cm, the whole pack
>Be working in Germany for a few months
>Can't get laid so go to a club since it's legal there
>39 years old latina spotted
>Start chatting
>Small talk, she used to live in Spain too but just moved to Germany to make a quick buck and buy a home in Colombia
>Start making out (would never do if she did not tell me she just started a day ago)
>Ask her if she wants to be treated as a whore or as a gf
>She says gf
>Eat her pussy
>Start going up after a while by kissing her body, then her neck, then her
>Insert cock without condom
>Cum buckets inside her
>Relax, she does not react as if someone just came in her
>Start small talk again
>Ask her if she even takes the pill after a while
>She says no half afraid of my reaction half realizing what just happened
>I brush it off and tell her to prepare for round 2
>She takes a condom and says "we use protection this time"
>I laugh at her and tell she's filled to the brim with cum
>She sets herself in doggy position
>Fuck and cum inside her again
>More small talk, she does not seem to care
>I begin dressing
>She asks me if I want to be his boyfriend before I go
>I ignore that as I keep dressing

>2 months later
>Go to the same club
>SHe's not anywhere
>Fuck some romanian hooker
>Ask her if she knew a colombian whore that worked there
>She told me the only latina there got pregnant, which means she fucked without condom in Germany, which is illegal, so she got sent back to Colombia
>It was illegal to abort the kid in Colombia so many years ago so she had my baby
Oh well.

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>>28394851
Ever thought about seeing the kid? Do the right thing, anon.

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>>28394885
I don't even know how the mother is called lol

>>28394822
thanks, Anon

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>>28394894
Damn anon. Just pray he doesn't turn into a Columbian hitman out to find his father the John Wick way.

>>28394851
>Spanish, young, blond, blue eyed, 182 cm, the whole pack
>Can't get laid
fucking women...

>>28394788
How does one find legitimate pornstars that escort on the side? Also, first time posting in a while. What the fuck is this 15 minute timer before posting?

>>28394509
I only ever had one that was properly fucked up, but it was sad. Dad died young, had to fend for herself (prob doing it since she was underage), she lost a child in the womb when it was already around 6-7 months, sister got very sick and she had to care for her...just generally bad thing after bad thing.

>>28395074
>I only ever had one that was properly fucked up
if you pay attention, you'll see the chinks in the armor.
So many of the girls will be fine for an hour or two, but you'd be surprised how many of them are strung out on heroin. They flake, they fucking 'drop dead' at a moments notice because they've been up for days.

another story
> on my way to a regular whore 3 hrs away, I get anxious and see a chick advertising in a city on the way there. Surprisingly she responds, so I meet up in the parking lot of her hotel. Get talked into a 3-way.
> long story short, the (literal fake tits and ass) bimbo offers me cocaine to free base with her before we start. Of course, I accept

>>28394851
>fucked without condom in Germany, which is illegal
so that's why their birth rate is the worst in the world

>>28395112
Hookers fucking wo condom, dumb ass. Sex work is legal and regulated. And that's Korea for worst in the world.

>>28394812
Same, been off the monger game for 5 months now. Ain't worth it. It takes time, money, and soul. Would rather be doing something WAY more productive with my time, money, and soul than this stuff. Good job anon. I would recommend a detox and parasite cleanse when getting off the monger game, it will help tremendously.

>>28394969
>porncompanions
You can check to see what city they're serving too, ctrl+f your city name. Then check the eros dot com section of your city a week before they visit for their contact info and book via email. Use protonmail

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>>28395091
Last time I did coke with a whore I couldn't get it up kek

happy ending tonight?

>>28395220
This chick was based out of New Orleans. Used to see her on sites all the time around here, but she stopped posting. I guess she quit or something. She must have raked in millions because shes like the only pretty one in that area. Most of the New Orleans hookers are like ghetto, trans "women" and these hairy arm pit, gross gutter punk skanks

>>28394509
>> Had one that I was seeing where her husband showed up (at the hotel)
tell this story please

>bored at work
>check eros
>Mandy Muse has an ad up
Brehs....

>>28394509
Damn, i hope i can afford a beach house one day that i can fuck whores in...

Any tips for first timers on ways not to get scammed? I went on tryst and messaged one girl, but she asked for verification where she basically wanted me to submit a picture of my ID and a pic of me I guess to run a background check or something. Is this normal? Theres no way I want to just give that out to a whore I've never seen before.

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>>28395359
>This chick was based out of New Orleans
yep. Belle.
vid from my other threads. She was a former pornstar from Arkansas (Katerina Kay). She's an airhead IRL. She had a boyfriend that was managing her. She gave great performances on encounters, but weeded out more and more clients simply because she could. She got in good with Heidi at Discrete Referrals and Nikki Tylor. I had heard from nearly every whore in New Orleans that Nikki (a top elite whore in Louisiana) was vindictive as fuck on all the girls that didn't. Belle dropped out completely last year in 2022
I finally saw Nikki Tylor in 2021 (I think) in the summer and she wouldn't stop talking about eccie and all the girls and all her personal drama. Also learned all her photos were the work of a local photog. He would photo shop her likeness on women that kinda sort of had her body. She looked all of 60 when I saw her. Still a great body, gave a top notch performance I had one of the best times with her. She was manic though......heard she completely devolved into addiction by that fall and is completely MIA now. She had been a mainstay in the state since at least 2007

>>28395359
You have her name? You booked her? If yes was it good?

>>28395369
>>> Had one that I was seeing where her husband showed up (at the hotel)
>tell this story please
ugh....this bitch was gorgeous, phenomenal dancer body and a bob hairstyle ("Courtney Sweets"). Met her at a motel, stunned me with how 'put together' she was. Her room looked like someone's house with all the shit she had in it. Move her into a new hotel (hotel, not motel) and I'm parked on the side of the hotel at the side entrance, her room is right by the side exit. We're going out to my truck and some guy is going nuts in the parking lot and shouting at her. I thought the guy was just nuts, she jumps up and starts shouting back - they're arguing about a laptop or some shit. I ended up pulling out my gun, the cops show up and take him away....turns out he found out where she was through location sharing on some app she had.
There is a lot more to this story, but she may have still been with this dude, but her son was in North Carolina with her mother (who hates her) because she's a junkie.

I had just moved to Florida at the time, so I'm just feeling out the market. First girl I hookup with is a blonde (Jada) with a killer body but is shit for service. I had a thing about bringing a 'gift bag' with weed, heels, maybe an outfit or some bath shit for them. Cheap trinkets but i figured it would put them at ease quicker (more to this story). Leaving her hotel at 3 in the morning, its cold outside, I see this chick walkig down the street. Bang a u-turn and pick her up. She's a crackhead and is asking if she can earn money....lol....sucks my dick
Hook up with "jada" twice. I'm like "nah, not doing that again"

I then see the ad for the chick with the bob hair style (Courtney - above), did the same thing with the gift bag and we hit it off. Next day, she's like
> "ummm do you know Jada?"
she explains that the other whore is staying in the adjoining room and accused her of stealing her heels. I gave them both the same heels.

>>28395393
>Any tips for first timers on ways not to get scammed?
zero money before you meet. period
>I went on tryst and messaged one girl, but she asked for verification where she basically wanted me to submit a picture of my ID and a pic of me I guess to run a background check or something. Is this normal?
its normal
Its not that big of a deal on that shit. The thing is there already exist was of verification, but bitches think they know better.
"Preferred411" is a third-party that verifies employment and who you are so whores don't have to. But these bitches know better....

Whats the likelyhood of going into a stripclub and convincing one of the girls there to fuck me for money?

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> samefagging here
>>28395585
>>28395526
>>28395091
>>28394766
>>28394509
>>28394449
this is why i say, if all you're getting out of these visits is a 'nut' you're missing out. There is a fuck ton of entertainment and adventure out there awaiting you.
plenty more stupid retarded stories in the archives

>>28395635
>Whats the likelyhood of going into a stripclub and convincing one of the girls there to fuck me for money?
very possible if
> you have cocaine
> you plan to spend over $1000
strippers have the biggest golden pussy syndrome out there

nb4 23 yo superchad shows up and says he pulls strippers every night for free

>>28395642
Well I dont do drugs at all, so I guess thats out. Something about fucking a stripper is so much hotter than a hooker

>>28395640
>There is a fuck ton of entertainment and adventure out there awaiting you.
How do you uncover this side? Just do less "business" and talk more?

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>>28395657
>How do you uncover this side? Just do less "business" and talk more?
I dont have the formula, but just be personable. Just share a drink with them when they arrive and shoot the shit. When its over they generally warm up to you. They all want someone to be themselves around because they can't keep up the facade for long. I had one chick that I had over and all I wanted was her acclaimed "cock worship"......she sucked my dick for no less than an hour from every corner of my suite. At the end she wanted to hang out at the casino next door. I'm like, "nah, I'm good"
There have only been a few, now that I think about it, that didn't completely open up and text back personal shit later on (not in a way that they fish for more $$). I think it was because I wasn't in a relationship that I appear 'open' for that shit.
>>28395648
>a stripper is so much hotter than a hooker
you should explore what this means to you. You'll be able to scratch this itch better and consistently if you focus on what it is that is appealing to you. Is it their open warmth or them dancing to allure you....or something else


>>28395585
>bringing a 'gift bag'
picrel. i went deep on planning encounters. Does it make a bit of difference with the whores? no, not at all. Just treat them like shit and never repeat / see them twice.

>>28394232
What is AMP?

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>>28395720
>What is AMP?
Asian
Massage
Parlor
> u wan suckee suckkee?

>>28395716
>SIMPD (1).mp4
wrong webm

I have a question for experienced anons. I'm considering an escort. I don't really care about vaginal or anal, I don't care about losing my virginity or anything like that, I mainly just want oral sex. I don't care about the girlfriend experience, if anything I just want a literal professional cock sucker, throat goat, oral pleasure performer to give me insane head for a solid chunk of money.

Is an escort a good move? I've never had oral sex but I'm literally obsessed with blowjobs and read/write blowjob erotica etc. I've been searching Tryst and filtering based on whether girls have throat, bj, bbbj, suck, sucking, and deepthroat in their profile. My plan was to shell out like $1000-$2000 for a solid couple hours of heavy oral worship.

Do these sorts of girls respond well to just literally doing their job? I'm really excited for it and just want to get sucked off until my legs shake.

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>>28395751
You will need to research and read reviews. Some girls like it, others find it a pain in the ass ans will give you a bad time. You'll know by perusing TER, Eccie, review monkey etc. Or ask your local TER board who the best BBBJ are in town. I had a hooker who hated giving BJs, to make up for it she let me creampie her as much as I want. Women logic.

>>28395778
https://tryst.link/escort/1lacy-girl
This is the one I had my eye on. I don't know if liking these is wrong or anything. Most of the reviews were just about her squirting or whatever, but her profile lists deepthroat and blowjobs specifically as being big turn ons, along with rimming.

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>>28395751
>oral pleasure performer to give me insane head
Amen, brother.
Nothing better than this right here (IMO). Spending $1000 should not be worth it, though.
Every girl that advertises "throat goat" i found to be a total bore. If they aren't offering BBBJ, you're not gonna have a good time. You can get a good blowjob with a condom, but its not ideal.
>>28395716
>her acclaimed "cock worship".
talked to this chick some time afterward and wanted her to demonstrate for another girl. She said the realest shit ever
> A GIRL EITHER WANTS TO SUCK DICK OR SHE DON'T
She can do all the methods and styles, but if she isn't getting off herself by sucking dick, its gonna suck (not in a good way).
How do you find one? If she mentions it, its at least a start. Nothing wrong with explaining what your intention is. You could say you need a focus on oral pleasure (not just say blowjobs). Some girls advertise that oral is all they do. They tend to also be into massage / nuru shit, too

>>28394449
the girl is pretty, don't get me wrong
BUT 1500 FOR AN HOUR???
14000 FOR A DAY??
you can buy a round trip to colombia and swim in pussy with that.
She's pretty but not 1500 USD per hour pretty
I mean no girl is 1500 per hour pretty for me but that can be argued I guess

>>28394894
fuck sauce on this?

>>28395778
yeah same, a girl would actually gag while blowing me but would ride me until I came, stay there until im soft, kiss me all the while and then get ready for seconds
before you say anything I don't stink, I tell the girls to tell me upfront if I need to take a shower or they smell anything, I've had gfs who would suck me with glee, this girl just hated the texture of penis and more so ballsack on her mouth
she once told me it reminds her of raw chicken skin
I laughed out loud but she has a point, that's the texture lol

>>28394969
Trystagency is another one I found. I emailed them and I think 90 mins raw was $1.5k-$2.5k depending on the girl. Filming is another add on and I didn't bother asking about that since it, yet again, depends on the girl and Karla Kush was the only girl in my area.

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>>28395822
>I mean no girl is 1500
no doubt, no doubt
why do we do the things we do? ask my dick....
Another story, before I stopped, I had a system down and it was lots of fun to plan and execute this shit>>28395724
>simpin.mp4
I lived in new orleans and was planning to have another sensual evening with >>28394766
>https://tryst.link/escort/msdevyndeveaux
it was some intricacies that required timing and getting things right. So I set up a practice session with another whore in Baton Rouge. Rent a cute AirBnB with a pool. I met this girl a year before and we had a great time. I look up shit she likes and find some things to cater to her personality.....
> traveling, visiting different places, relating to different people
this is what vacations are
Set up the evening making dinner, having champagne, dancing, fucking, bathing, napping, fucking again.... she leaves in the morning. I had an ego stroke / vanity wish fulfilled when she gushed on social media when she got home the next day (picrel). Many whores do this and, as a man, I always wanted something like that. It wasn't fake, but our unconscious needs and emotional tics can get satisfied with masquerading in this life. Who cares if its legit or not, if it actually makes a lasting impact on your life?
That same mental benefit was realized before when I setup a visit with that blonde (tryst ad above) in a busy upscale hotel. I have a brand new suit, in the lobby waiting for her to arrive. Place is packed with families for a BB tournament. She shows up, stunningly gorgeous blonde in a elegant blue bandage dress walking through the doors and walking straight for me in a lobby full of people. My balls weighed 50 lbs from that moment forward
thanks for letting me share

>>28395798
>https://tryst.link/escort/1lacy-girl
she sounds perfect

google "number" + "review"
https://www.google.com/search?q=206-920-3428+review

https://tryst.link/escort/lilemma
she's cute and her prices are reasonable, if any anon sees her please record it

>>28394778
check ladies dot de

>>28394778
prices in Germany are generally 100 to 150 an hour. there are more expensive options but you'll find plenty of good girls around that price

Uhhhhhh How the fuck did the spot get my number? I went here like 3 months ago
Is this a sting?

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>>28395896
>please record it
why don't you go visit her instead of living through some other fag?

>>28395906
>get my number?
if you dick around on the crawler sites, you'll get text messages from "the cartel" demanding payment or they will kill your family
https://www.avvo.com/legal-answers/i-received-a-death-threat-after-texting-some-escor-5414216.html

>>28395896
Inb4 /gif/ creates a monger onlyfans niche where anons can request escorts as customs

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>>28395944
>Inb4 /gif/ creates a monger onlyfans niche where anons can request escorts as customs
furiously download every webm from these threads to offer as ppv content on my new onlyfans page

>>28394778
You could search on one of the main platforms like ladies.de , just type your location ("Berlin" is enough) and go from there. You can also often Google their listed numbers and find reviews, in German mostly of course.

>>28395949
Considering how some girls sell 2 min shaky pov vids without a cumshot for $50, the bar for entry is very low. Anyone here can fund the hobby promoting here and on reddit

>>28395822
Those prices are fucking insane for just putting your dick into someone's body. A good NY AMP is a lot better deal. This 1 is located on 5th Ave with real pictures.
https://www.barbiehouseny.com/our-models/

>>28394425
What faggot made this cancerous clip?

>>28395822
hoeflation is very real

>>28395920
>why don't you go visit her instead of living through some other fag?
not in the US and never traveling there

>>28394232
Dangit OP, Ctrl+F "mong" no results "Huh, I guess they still haven't made the new thread yet. It's been a while..."

Anyway, I went to one of those handjob massage places, and they had me shower before and after, but there was no soap, just water, so I was still all oily walking out, it was really annoying.

>>28394778
Artemis. It's a place, not a person
in Berlin
your welcome

>>28395724
How much do you make anon, if you dont mind me asking?

>>28394232
How do they do it raw? I've fucked like 30 raw, only had one or 2 offer but for extra money. One said she would like it raw and I said OK then she said to give her more money lol

>>28396315
yeah I search for monger too, if it wasn't on the first page I would have thought there wasn't one up

>>28394268
Don't take this the wrong way but she's not that happy to see you ya know

>>28394778
Your wife will suspect you doing it then. Do it the weekend before in your home town, she won't think about that at all

Used one a few weeks ago for the first time in over 6 years
Felt nothing. At all. Just emotionless sex. Fuck man, I wish I could get the same thrill from hookers like I used to when I was younger...

>>28394268
Anon...it sounds like you're liking this girl a lot man...
Cmon, first rule of every escort ever, they don't want you they want your money. Never fall in love with a whore

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Hey fellow mongers, i recently got my revenge on a hooker that stole from in the past. should tell the story in a green text or should i just give a summary.
(video unrelated)

>be me
>hit up one of the agencies I'm a regular at close to me
>usually strictly spanish/portuguese speaking woman visiting the city
>book a hour with this woman with a great body and visibly aging wrinkles
>actually adds to her hotness still very fuckable
>arrive at the host apartment and she greets me warmly leading me to the bedroom
>woman is like five foot seven wearing heels so she looks mad tall
>tits and ass are unbelievable
>I strip and we get down to business
>super gfe from the get go grabs my face and shoves her tongue into my mouth
>do this various times during the session
>we take intermissions between different positions
>she speaks perfect english and I start to ask her casual questions while we rub our bodies together
>very stupid informal questions like what her favorite color is or favorite animal
>she opens up a little bit and tells me she has five cats and I ask her the story behind it (she fosters cats blah blah blah)
>she has a daughter of an unknown age and is presumably a single mother
>shes ask me for my name and I tell her the truth
>asks me if I have a twitter and tells me she has a page up there with explicit photos and videos
>tells me she wants to get into the porn scene
>get back into the swing of things and eventually blow a load into her mouth
>forget about what else we talked about but she gives me a few kisses as I leave her apartment
>I tell her it was nice meeting and walk out into the chilly weather
>thanks for reading my blog post

This happened two days ago. I know it's stupid to think about this kind of stuff but I wonder if when she was asking if I had a social because she wanted to maintain contact. Also never had an escort ask for my name before, mostly asking if I was married or had kids. What do you guys think?

>>28396474
she just wants repeat business but that's fine anon, follow her twitter and get a round 2, just don't expect anything more

>>28396474
Most girls know our names anyway because of the usual screening process.

You're also overthinking social media. She's excited to get into porn and she's sharing her enthusiasm with you. Feel free to follow, fap to her posts, and book directly with her if she wants.

>>28396369
I literally never get a thrill out of them even when i was younger. I dont understand you guys when you say this is a reason you see them. For me it just felt like i was paying for something that i should be getting for free, so i just leave it feeling unwanted and gross and poorer.

>>28395140
Just say the fucking condom broke or that you always used one not like condoms are 100% effective anyway

>>28395751
If you've actually never had oral sex I'd spend 150 bucks on some random asian hooker first to experience it first before going and spending a grand someone & hoping for some amazing experience

>>28395751
I know your dumbass was NOT about to spend $1K for a fucking blowjob, most upperclass hookers charge $1K for an entire night or some shit.
There's a lot of sites out there where you can get a good fine blowjob between $60-$100.
Also from my experience women aren't nearly as good at giving Blowjobs than Men are but I don't think you're ready for that conversation

Went to Pattaya, Thailand for a week and lost my mind
Fucked 8 girls and 2 trannys

Such a wonderful city

Fuggit, story time from a longtime monger thread lurker.
2 stories actually.

1.
>Be me
>be like 15/18 years ago
>Had an AMP just outside my military base when I was like 20.
>Knew about it, never went
>Me and my HSSW split
>Fuck it, I want to get off. Couple beers deep.
>Hit this place up at like 10pm on a Friday night
>Absolutely gorgeous korean (Im guessing) woman (early 20s, fit body, big tits, etc.)
Borderline dream girl if I had actually gone to Casey).
> I'm nervous as FUCK. Shaking like a Leaf and I think she picked up on that.
>Is actually massaging me, keeps asking me if I "want more"
>Eventually I give in.
>Absolute pro, and one of the best lays of my life.
>Lets me nut on her face, which is my biggest kink.
>Go again to the same spot like 3 months later, and its a 65 y/o chinese chick.
>Jerks me off but yeah that shit sucked in hindsight.
>Went a few more times at prime hours just to try and see the og chick
>Never saw her again

2.
>Dated a chick post military
>For years
>I bought a house, had a career, dog, multiple vehicles, was in the process of buying a fucking plane, etc
>wrecks my life, cheats on me with a lowlife
>I go into a deep depression
>fast foreword like 10 years
>lifes back to being solid
>new girl, absolute catch, new dog, new job, etc
>On the jobsite and the old gf hits me up (Not the one in previous story)
>pours her heart out about how she made bad choices and is struggling
>Offers to straight up bang me for money
>I only lightly entertain the idea, because fuck this twat
>She's fucking down with the clown at this point
>I openly start exploiting her
>she agrees to basically being a side bitch/porn slut/"Let me take videos of me doing the dirtiest shit imaginable to you"
>She's about it.

I have like 600Gbs of my secret drive of videos of me just sexually demoralizing this girl, 100% voluntarily, and she never got a dime from me. She just got railed, jizzed on, and used for side pleasure. Get bent, cunt.

>>28396733
>600Gbs of my secret drive of videos of me just sexually demoralizing this girl, 100% voluntarily, and she never got a dime from me. She just got railed, jizzed on, and used for side pleasure
Youre my hero anon.

>>28396592
>>28396369

Same. I'm only a medium-attractiveness guy, but I've been lucky to experience true loving sex with attractive and educated girls from wealthy families most of my life. It ruined me for any paid sex because all the hookers I can find seem trashy, ghetto, and like I would feel disgusted around them. They aren't even that hot without make-up, corsets hiding fat bellies, heels pushing butts out, etc.

But truly dating good women is too much work and near impossible now due to apps and social change. Those hot wealthy smart girls I grew up with? They simply don't need a man, and if they feel horny they only want 6'2 Chad who inherited a shipping company. You could get these girls at major discount if you met them in class/through friends on our Ivy League campus, but out on the open market they've learned their value, and dating dynamics have changed dramatically in the past decade.

I guess the only thing we can do, even if you're lucky and have succeeded at other aspects of life, is to accept that wife/mother-material just isn't there anymore, so either accept being alone, or pay trashy/ugly women to use as mechanical fuckmeat. I'd rather save (invest) my money and jerk off.

One day my dream is to wake up next to a woman who loves me and I love her
And then I won't need hookers anymore

>>28394778
>>28396733
>cheating on your wives

Unironically scum with no honor

>>28396774
>>28396787
this makes me want to quit mongering and look for love....bros how do i find love?

>>28396774
You NEED to reproduce, Anon. The fate of Western Civilization depends on you!

>>28396826
> Get a hobby
> Engage with the community that you'll inevitably find that formed around the hobby
> There will be a woman in the community or someone will show you their single female friend

Your objective shouldn't be "I want a gf." It should be about engaging with people that you can enjoy being around and they can enjoy being around you. You'll find more fulfilling relationships that way. Every girlfriend I had came from the group I was in or from a mutual friend.

Now I'm just mongering because the last gf's career basically required her to relocate every two years and my favorite escort knows me well enough that dates take place at her house and I take care of her animals while she travels (in exchange for a couple overnights)

>>28396369
Be happy you've grown as a man

>>28396474
thanks for sharing but try to be more misogynist for your fellow incels

>>28396733
kek based, surely you can put a clip of that into a mp4 tho right haha

>>28396908
ya youre right, easier said than done, but true none the less

Only ever had sex with prostitutes but even so I had the best sex of my life the other day and I can't stop thinking about it and getting hard from the memory of it

Kissed her while she rode me. Her lips tasted like strawberries. Best shit ever. We went from sex to her giving me head without even changing the condom and it blew my mind

Couldn't keep a hard on during penetration though which really upset me so I'm gonna try cialis next time

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>>28396339
>How much do you make anon
$141k,could make much more if I applied myself
the real figure that matters is
>$3k / mo discretionary "fun money" . The budget I had for whores. Many times when I did 2-3 in a week
>>28396592
>you say this is a reason you see them
the RUSH of seeing them is the chase. I would find that the sex wasn't half as fulfilling as all the drama of finding a sexy ad that turned me on, getting her to respond,setting something up, going thru the anxiety (is this a bust / scam /robbery?) of high risk behavior. If all you're doing is showing up to an AMP and laying on a table, there isn't much to illicit excitement compared to traveling to sketchy places, setting a mood, making a connection, performing physically like a king, getting her to respond/perform/act a certain way to get exactly what you want,coming away without getting robbed or murdered. There's excitement in that
>something that i should be getting for free
this hits you eventually,especially when its really good and you feel a 'connection'. it breaks you. worst of all is when you realize civilian girls are no better. They are fickle/flighty. That puppy summer love we all have in puberty doesn't exist as adults because men and women operate in two completely different worlds. The best you can hope for is to have karma find you and enjoy sensual love and connection for a season, then it passes on. Our nature is to capture and control, it doesn't work like that.
>>28396908
>Every girlfriend I had came from the group I was in or from a mutual friend.
same. but people these days don't have friends and don't hang out. they're fooked

Everyone can do the chans how they like, but don't bother green-texting if its an entire page long. Learn how to compose long form if half your text is irrelevant shit that adds nothing to the story

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>>28397057
>There's excitement in that
qualifying the enjoyment/satisfaction thing
The common $300 backpage tier hooker IS NOT much fun. They're just offering up their body for you to use. What is enjoyable can be the $500 girls that are trying to build their reputation and entertain you. The $1000/hr and up are on another level, entirely. This is where the being the maestro behind the encounter makes it very satisfying
>>28395863
>>28395724
i had a system that 'worked' every time on every girl that captured the excitement / anticipation we have for Christmas. I'm excited to see what present she brought me, while at the same time being excited to seeing her reaction to what I have for her. It about how we can set them at ease to loosen up when they know they're safe, secure (with payment) and appreciated for who they are (because they're teeming with insecurities).. This worked for the escorts, but its 10x more effective as a sugar daddy - it melts their brains.

I should also point out that when I started into mongering, I was heavily cycling Tren and HGH. Fits of manic emotion and wanting to fuck all the time, worse than being in puberty

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>>28396426
let's hear it anon

Anons, after 108 whores, I think I'm done with sex.

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>>28397270
>108 whores
avg $300/ whore
> $32,500 total
you feel like you got $30k worth of fun out of it?
i'm right there with you. As the consumer, is the juice worth the squeeze? How do we continue to get the experience WE want? No different than anywhere else we spend money. I stopped fast food, altogether years ago because the experience is so terrible I cannot fathom giving any business my money.

What experience do we want out of prostitution?
> crack heads > street walkers > hookers > prostitutes > massage > escorts > courtesans

>>28397270
I'm assuming you got to fuck them multiple times and not just 1 time per whore.

>>28394232

is she a pornstar, if yes i need the name

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>>28397057
>the anxiety (is this a bust / scam /robbery?) of high risk behavior.
FWIW - i got the exact same rush before I got into whores, by purchasing firearms from private sellers for cash. I'm not supposed to own firearms.

>>28397466
Yeah, a couple of regulars. They got boring really fast, and yeah it was worth the money because now I have the super power to not think with my dick anymore. It got depressing because the sex got boring and I get glimpses into their sad ass life. Hookers, prostitutes, escorts, whatever you call they, they're all self-sabotaging, self-hatinf, delusional and damaged goods. God bless their heart and the beta male they find to help turn them into honest women because they need all the help they can get.

>>28394778
tips for a first timer? Planning on losing my v with bitches in chile. I really liked the whole cafe com piernas idea

>>28397419
>As the consumer
more faggot shit drivel. I married young, had a kid, got divorced, had a half dozen serious relationships after, but mid 30s-mid 40s i was consumed with a career and felt really disjointed with what i knew dating to be, so I didn't 'date'. Heading into my 50s, I wanted to get back into pursuing a specific girl (30) but knew I needed to get caught up to speed because I hadn't been fucking regularly. Set up sessions with 3 whores like exhibition games ("lets see how well I perform after all these years"). Knock down 2 and I got the 'bug' to just keep doing this. With the whores, I had the opportunity to exorcise every single thing I wanted to do/unload on a companion. I took them out to dinners and yapped away at all my stupid shit, expressing all the shit I wanted to say...only made me even more competent for pursue the civilian chick I was after. It was very productive for me going out with all these different women and getting all my internal shit out on them.
I am single, alone (with adult son at home), so my appetite/tolerance for 'woman shit' might be higher than a guy that's married. It was a waste of money to do what I did, but it opened the door to fucking a lot more girls, 3-ways, nuru, tantric, sugar babying

Can anyone with a rubmaps account help me out?
Looking at Sugar Tree Spa in Colorado Springs, wanna see the reviews.

>>28394232
So im debating seeing a trans escort. Ive already seen a ftm except it wasnt an escort, just a friend of a friend. Although we had a great time i learned i do like femininity. Ever since i was like 5 ive been fascinated by dicks and when i watched in porn other guys have orgasms it usually turns me on a lot. On top of that, when i went on cams and made another guy cum it gave me a head rush that nearly lasted the whole day. Just the image of his body tensing up, changing colors, harsh breaths, the look of calmness after all of it...

Im not sure if i want to make the dive just immediately to dudes, so i am debating seeing an attractive mtf escort. But, in the same problem, i am also wanting to get away from this, i want to be a normal straight guy without gross desires. I dont really want to keep fucking escorts either but most trans women on grinder are either stuck up looking for 10/10 male models, or ogres. So i would rather just pay for it in this case. I also think once i jump to dudes i will just end up having a ton of sex without anything attached, since i do enjoy sex and physically being with someone, and this is a problem because its really only a matter of time before i get hurt spiritually, mentally and physically. I was raised christian so this is furthermore a mental block of guilt and shame to get around. Ive been fantasizing about this for years, nearly a decade at this point. Im not sure if i should keep these things fantasy or finally go for it. The idea of it already gives me goosebumps but i feel gross about it. I dont want to do anything that i regret.

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>>28397629
>guys orgasms
you should evaluate what this really means to you.
It isn't that have to jump head first into being a full blown fem homo queer. Thats a path of no return.
Celebrate an erection (your erection?). Celebrate the power behind it
https://www.mindbodygreen.com/articles/tantric-lingam-massage
See if this doesn't scratch your itch where the masculine / male is WORSHIP and adored. I know we're all conditioned to think of the penis as something ugly and almost profane, denying its virility and beauty(?). Imagine going crazy over your OWN cock they way you say you like others.
Imagine a gorgeous woman devoting herself to engorging your dick, savoring every inch of it, in no rush to make you cum, but enjoying pumping and stroking you...gleefully bringing you so much pleasure until you erupt in ecstatic bliss. Does that interest you? See a Tantric practitioner

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>>28397716
>so much pleasure until you erupt in ecstatic bliss
pick this up, read/listen, watch a podcast, whatever, but this is where you'll find the most fulfilling and complete sensual experiences with your cock

https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/serpent-rising-neven-paar/1142514688

>>28397716

>It isn't that have to jump head first into being a full blown fem homo queer. Thats a path of no return.

Exactly why i am hesistant

>you should evaluate what this really means to you.

I am familiar with sexual energy. Seeing someone in pleasure is arousing to me. I have a theory on why.

>See if this doesn't scratch your itch where the masculine / male is WORSHIP and adored. I know we're all conditioned to think of the penis as something ugly and almost profane, denying its virility and beauty(?). Imagine going crazy over your OWN cock they way you say you like others.

Ive heard about it before and i just dont know any way i could experience this, even expensive girls clock watch, rush things and dont give a fuck. And thats to be expected, you are paying them for something they give other guys for free. The worst guy they have ever fucked in their minds is a league above you for that reason.

>Imagine a gorgeous woman devoting herself to engorging your dick, savoring every inch of it, in no rush to make you cum, but enjoying pumping and stroking you...gleefully bringing you so much pleasure until you erupt in ecstatic bliss. Does that interest you? See a Tantric practitioner

That would be nice, and i have seeked out a tantric practitioner before. They usually are more happy ending types. I dont think you can do this with anyone other than a loving partner and if you are on this thread good luck finding that. I tried finding one for ten years and came up 100% empty handed and with total rejection.

>>28397739
>i just dont know any way i could experience this
>other than a loving partner
this is where I got a very good education on it
https://www.slixa.com/louisiana/new-orleans/la-jolla-7

NURU stuff is more happy ending. Tantric really is about holding back on the release so you can learn how to channel the energy. With Tantric, the sexual sensation is pre-school....it unlocks a shit load more in life

>that this powerful God energy was in the penis, which was thought to contain the most masculine essence concentrated in one place.
>Think of it this way: Sacred sex is about approaching your partner's body as a temple and their penis as the most holy place of all.

>>28397739
>The worst guy
nothing what you've written is wrong. God knows the majority of girls out there fuck this thing up unnecessarily.
Actual South American girls (not mexican americans) have an appreciation of machismo and serving the man. That is a good place to start. You have a few stages to break thru to see what really works long term.
1. a non-judgmental woman, not clock watching, but welcoming you and your body.
2. a woman understanding her own femininity and how that polarity powers a man.
3. a woman willing to freely give that femininity to you.
4. a woman devoted/enjoying/pleasuring herself by giving the man ecstasy.
5. cooperating/teaming with a woman in shared trust, intentional shared sensual pleasure.

how to get 1 or more of these from a provider? its certainly possible. Much easier with a sugar baby

>>28395751
>>28395751
I'm also almost entirely into blowjobs as well.

I've messed with tryst, amps, and a couple other sites.

No blowjob has been consistently better than 18-23 year olds I find on seeking.

Make a free account. Look at the girls in your area. Pay for 1 month for like 85 bucks, hit up as many chicks (they're all so much hotter and younger than the other sites in my experience in South Texas) and be nice to these girls.

I'm personally into feet, so I offer a foot massage to every girl and complement them in the opener. I get them on Snapchat ASAP if they're interested then ask them about the meeting there.

Get a price, 100-150 is usually it. Then figure out where it's gonna be. When you're there ask them about blowjobs they always do it for 50 more.

I've got 3 regular girls, all 18, one just turned 19, who get tested every week, don't meet with tons of guys, and let me creampie them now for 200 a meeting. And one of them gives the best head I've ever had.

College girls are an actual cheat code.

>>28397777
Why do i have the opposite experience from everyone in these threads every time? Blowjobs in my experience were the best from 25-30 girl, usually skinnier/athletic ones. The 18-23 year olds ive been with usually suck dick at sucking dick. I will say though the sugar baby method is a clutch fucking method i am debating trying out because 100-150 dollars is a beyond fucking STEAL where i live. Especially for a younger attractive looking girl.

Its crazy how bad these new girls are though at knowing their worth. They are so used to giving out sex for free they dont know they could charge $500-$1000 EASY. I nearly saw one that was an local onlyfans girl and i was ready to offer her $500 but she was like "is $75 too much?". Insane. We never met up though for various reasons.

>>28397745
>this is where I got a very good education on it
https://www.slixa.com/louisiana/new-orleans/la-jolla-7


This would be a two day trip for me. She looks hot though. If she could actually do it shes worth the money i just doubt it because from what i understand tantra is mutual energy transfer, and one built up from love. You dont get love from someone you paid $700 to do that to. Unless you are a vapid person.

>Tantric really is about holding back on the release so you can learn how to channel the energy. With Tantric, the sexual sensation is pre-school....it unlocks a shit load more in life

Is it like sexual transmutation? Ive tried this before, and although it works i still have the sadness from loneliness to deal with which is a bitch.

>Actual South American girls (not mexican americans) have an appreciation of machismo and serving the man. That is a good place to start. You have a few stages to break thru to see what really works long term.

I have doubt about this unless you are a man. I dont consider myself a man. I do not look like a real man so i doubt ill get that special treatment. Im not even really rich enough to get them to act like that either. I dont think you can get it though for real with money. You need something beyond money, something you cant buy. No other way around that and i know it infuriates everyone here. But you cant pay for a real experience like this and truthfully theres a good chance a giant percent of guys wont ever feel it either. Their women are just with them out of obligation to seem normal, but not actually attraction.

>>28397817
I offered a girl 100 bucks yesterday and she said "oh wow" and was happy to blow me for 125.

I've had some good bjs from late 20s and some 30s women. But two girls I'm seeing now are incredible with their mouths. No dad in their life, lost virginity to middle school teacher.

I'm pretty small about 4 inches so it's not like it's a challenging blow, but it's like these girls just want to please to their core.

I did actual face fucking for the first time with one of them, they suggested it, and I about ascended to heaven.

>>28397844
I wonder if a woman would do the same for me, ive dealt with over a 100 in person rejections in my life so i doubt even with money any girl that age is going to blow me. Im also trying to stop paying for sex and focus on spiritual growth since this path has been a fucking hell cycle. Still tempting though.

>>28397843
>You dont get love from someone you paid $700 to do that to.
i provided her as an example. There are Tantric advertising providers available on Tryst
My first session with that chick (I saw a lot of different tantric chicks), was her explaining the chakras, both disrobing and her straddling me, we embrace close and work on shared breathing rhythm. Then move to a mattress when she 'massages' me laying face down, while I work on tantric breathing exercises, as she strokes, massages, whips, etc altering sensations to help channel how I respond to stimuli. This lasted a long while, until I flip and she repeats the same while I'm laying on my back. Culminating with stroking, teasing, pumping, pulling my dick and balls slow and fast and there is no 'timeline' because its happening in a rhythm....edging....i had multiple actual orgasms without releasing/ejaculating....it was wild. Ends with us both spooning and breathing.

I did a few more sessions with her. One where she brought me to completion after 21 day semen retention (part of the process). I also had a coaching compact with her that last 6 months. Pretty intimate / devotion

I'm not saying she/it is the answer. I'm saying resources are out there.

** as far as 'loving' sensation - that isn't going to come from someone else. It has to be driven and sourced internally. **

>>28397871
>i provided her as an example. There are Tantric advertising providers available on Tryst

Which seem to be super hit and miss. Ive been to two, they are basically FBSM+ with nuru elements.

>My first session with that chick (I saw a lot of different tantric chicks), was her explaining the chakras, both disrobing and her straddling me, we embrace close and work on shared breathing rhythm. Then move to a mattress when she 'massages' me laying face down, while I work on tantric breathing exercises, as she strokes, massages, whips, etc altering sensations to help channel how I respond to stimuli. This lasted a long while, until I flip and she repeats the same while I'm laying on my back. Culminating with stroking, teasing, pumping, pulling my dick and balls slow and fast and there is no 'timeline' because its happening in a rhythm....edging....i had multiple actual orgasms without releasing/ejaculating....it was wild. Ends with us both spooning and breathing.

See, this sounds amazing. Closest i got was a happy ending massage by an older asian woman who, idk if she just found me cute or if she does this with everyone, decided to edge me over and over again tell i was sweating and literally shaking before she eventually decided i had had enough and let me cum. I remember though she wasnt ready for how hard i cum so she ended up getting hit in the face which caused her to point my dick at my chest which hit me in the face. So we were both sitting there laughing covered in my cum.

>I did a few more sessions with her. One where she brought me to completion after 21 day semen retention (part of the process).

I have never gone beyond like two weeks. To me an orgasm is the only real pleasure i have in life, and i get extremely depressed and anxious if i dont get it fairly regularly.

>>28397843
>sadness from loneliness
>I dont consider myself a man
>you cant pay for a real experience
prostitution will give you SEX.
women can give you 'companionship'.
women are TERRIBLE at supplying self-worth. civilian women are flighty/fickle/indecisive and truly have no concept of what love actually is. Women are wholly incapable of loving to the depths a man can. Those are just facts.

The answers to the issues you raised have to come from within. You CAN get boosts and encouragement and/or the simulation of what it feels like to be desired/wanted/have a 10/10 as your woman....it is the kind of boost that will get you over a plateau in life.

If you're the type of person that self-sabotages any good thing in life like Eeyore, you have to make the decision to be good to yourself. Get in the practice of doing something for yourself daily. Workout, go running, you must engage physically, emotionally and intellectually daily with accomplishments. Believe it or not, WHORES can supplement a self-improvement campaign

>>28394232
How do you find an escort that 9 times out of 10 will give you what you need? I am trying to find an escort I can be a regular client with, not because I believe it is "love" or any of that crap but cause having a reliable escort would mean good sex and not having to go from broad to broad searching for a good fuck

>>28397871
>I also had a coaching compact with her that last 6 months. Pretty intimate / devotion

Sounds intense. Im surprised she has the mental energy. A vast majority of sex workers i know use every trick they can to stay as mentally disconnected from the guy they are with as possible because, even though i havent experienced this, women are apparently very easy to manipulate once youve been inside them. Ive heard many of them say it takes a huge toll of them so the idea you can get this, for any amount of money, seems crazy and unimaginable to me.

>** as far as 'loving' sensation - that isn't going to come from someone else. It has to be driven and sourced internally. **

I hear this a lot but i never see it from anyone. The people who love themselves have loving people around them.

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>>28397923
>never gone beyond like two weeks.
>I get extremely depressed
these are related. heh.
think of semen retention like a woman's menstrual cycle. You retain that masculine energy that fuels you to get the fuck out of bed and conquer shit. You release when you need that energy rejuvenated. You're not supposed to retain forever. Its very difficult, but it changes the game when you're in harmony with your body. You won't put shit off. The dopamine release of cumming sedates us and makes us put shit off. I get it, I still struggle with that discipline. This is where the Tantric shit comes in, its a regimen, breathing, stretching, working out, intentional action taken in life.

picrel. we're talking whores and this nigga tryna be Dr.Phil....i know i know. apologies mongeranons i'm a faggot

>>28397935
>9 times out of 10 will give you what you need?
first figure out what SPECIFICALLY you need. define success for a hooker.
the very basics are the 4As
>Attractive
>Attentive
>Affectionate
>Appreciative
you'll find that the ones you hated, failed in more than one of these.

next, scour the reviews
lastly, communicate with her - is she responsive to how you text/talk or is she a pain in the ass?

>>28397937
>people who love themselves have loving people around them.
its infectious. Would YOU want to be around cheerful loving people? of course
Try loving YOURSELF, first. Then watch what happens.

>>28397927
>.it is the kind of boost that will get you over a plateau in life.

Thats what im concerned about. Is my problem bigger than what i think it is, and in the end it wont even matter if i find anyone, i still wont get what i am looking for.

>If you're the type of person that self-sabotages any good thing in life like Eeyore

I forgot winnie the pooh was a thing and thought this was some new esoteric figure i hadnt heard of lol.

>you have to make the decision to be good to yourself. Get in the practice of doing something for yourself daily. Workout, go running, you must engage physically, emotionally and intellectually daily with accomplishments.

Weirdly enough i do treat myself better nowadays than i did a few years ago. I still feel a massive hole a person could fill but doesnt. Sure, i can go traveling, but i am doing it alone, i can go out to eat somewhere but im doing it alone. Never in human history has men been so alone. It goes beyond sex.

>think of semen retention like a woman's menstrual cycle. You retain that masculine energy that fuels you to get the fuck out of bed and conquer shit. You release when you need that energy rejuvenated

Huh, that is a new way to think about it.

>he dopamine release of cumming sedates us and makes us put shit off. I get it, I still struggle with that discipline. This is where the Tantric shit comes in, its a regimen, breathing, stretching, working out, intentional action taken in life.

I will have to look into it if it just goes beyond connecting with another person and having delayed powerful orgasms.

>>28397966
Im not sure how i can love myself any more than i already do. I make myself good food, i take myself on good vacations, i buy myself nice stuff. Its not my fault i notice that i am below average. At a certain point though it feels more like pity than actual love. Or fear.

>>28397959
For it to not be a waste of time and money is a good start. I dont mind paying, but if the price isn't worth the experience or the sex was whack then I paid for a big nothing and leave unsatisfied.
>find one you hated and she failed in one of those or all of them.
Appreciative and attentive are the big ones for me. It helps to be attracted to the woman, i prefer latinas and white women and have tried a few asians and blacks here and there but mainly prefer latinas and white. A big turn off is attitude, or if everything is an upsell or if she is trying to milk every cent out of me but isn't even delivering on half of what her price is. Neither one of us are doing freebies. I just want to pay for some pussy and for it to be good. If I can't get good pussy the regular way, not paying for it, then I would at least like for the pussy to be good while i'm paying for it. If you pay 100 bucks to be served a plate of dogshit, you'd be confused as to how anyone in their right mind would be paying for that and coming back for seconds.

>>28397974
>Never in human history has men been so alone. It goes beyond sex.
this is why (IMO) its so important to define what you need at a given time
compartmentalize your wants and needs
NO WOMAN, none, can completely satisfy all that you need, so figure out what they CAN do.
>physical: bust a nut....this is primal animal shit. Can be fulfilled on a girl that just lays there
>emotional: do you just need human touch, affirmation/attention/validation? this is to reassure you and not be rejected
>masculine: flex your awesomeness as the be-all, providing for a woman and enrapturing her (win her attention)
>spiritual: shared trust brought about by unmasked intention. No games, no subterfuge, no transaction (i'll do this for you if you do this for me)

>>28397948
>picrel
>i know
>apologies
>nigga trynna be dr phil
Better an experienced monger giving gems than a rubmaps spammer asking for a handout

>>28394509
>> a few that (because I worked in healthcare) that I looked up their entire medical history on (lol...whooops)
what did it say? aids?

>>28396015
>https://www.barbiehouseny.com/our-models/
zero 18-20 year olds. yawn

>>28398020
>this is why (IMO) its so important to define what you need at a given time
i've come away unfilled several times because I just didn't listen to myself. I was a regular of one particular girl, visits at her house, i needed to see 'her'. There was a level of intimacy/connection we had and my intention was just being close and massaging her (serving her / power switch). Get there, we're hitting it off, get her on a table and start going to work, but I let things get away from me and get influenced/suckered into fucking and come away unfulfilled because my body wasn't ready for that at the time. We've fucked before, but this time I knew my body wasn't ready to break her in half with my dick. It comes and it goes. Had I stuck with my INTENTION to fulfill the emotional need, it would've been a more satisfying time for me. Instead it was frustrating for us both.

>>28396015
>https://www.barbiehouseny.com/our-models/
why is it that i believe NONE of the girls at this location look like that? I get there and they're all 50 year old dry cleaning ladies making soup?

Just found out my favorite massage+blowjob girl is back in town. I thought she's retired. Hope she I can get to her and she didn't get worse, wish me luck.

>>28394688
If she doesn't put up a fight about the rubber you should actually wear one. If she offers bare services in her ad, not even worth visiting imo
>>28394851
Might not be yours anon
>>28397270
You've got enough Whores of Destiny for the secret ending, grats

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>>28398262
Time is not a whores best friend, their looks and skill age like milk. You need all the luck.

>>28398201
They probably had their hair and makeup done and gotten a pro photographer because making girls look good means selling them is easier.

I've also noticed that girls from asia like to photoshop their eyes bigger, so keep that in mind.

First and only time I was with a hooker was to live out my cuck fantasy w/o having a gf. I paid for the hooker and watched a guy I met online fuck her. Licked his cum off her tits and got a handjob after I was done licking his cum. 10/10 would get cucked by a hooker again

>>28395180
basado.

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>>28398273
>You've got enough Whores of Destiny for the secret ending, grats
Nice. 98 more whores to go for me!

Why haven't you guys taken the Gay Twink route yet?
>Twinks give 10000/10000 blowjobs with more skill and enthusiasm than a woman
>Twinks are willing to do anything to please you in the moment
>Twinks are open to relationships if you connect with them
>Bussy feels tighter than Pussy AND no need to worry about pregnancy or child support
>Best of all, they will fuck you for free. As long as you are mildly attractive, literally just be a 6/10 at worst, and they will get on their knees for you
Just do it bros. Stop wasting $1000 every month on ugly whores and find yourself a Twinkie

>>28394688
Don't ever fuck a whore who offers BB service unless she costs $1K and needs to see medical proof beforehand

i was on a tear up and down the Gulf Coast from 2021 - 2024. I exhausted all the local whores, so I finally reached out to this chick in Alabama
https://privatedelights.ch/USA/Alabama/Mobile/Irishivy

didn't get any response in late 2022.....somehow I knew her real name and looked her up (obituary) She died a month before I reached out to her. Leaving behind kids and shit. lol

im entirely new to this and want to try. whats a reasonable amount to give after an amp session?

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>>28397937
>A vast majority of sex workers i know use every trick they can to stay as mentally disconnected from the guy
yes, this is what most do and SHOULD do. You would expect the McDonalds cashier to remember you and ask you for "your usual". That said, I treat my barber like a valued friend. I tip extra. I shoot the shit with him. I'll patronize his side gigs, he'll invite me over to watch a fight.

If you visit a girl, try just being relaxed and having a drink first before devouring her. I've had a ton of escorts engage in conversations and texts outside of visits way beyond just 'keeping tabs for repeat business'. One girl I saw 4 or 5 times over the course of 2 years. We regularly texted about our parents (both in hospice), real estate, wine, art history, etc...good relationship. Another that we texted/talked about what we're going through, she ended up getting off heroin, meeting a guy, getting her life situated. This chick I also 'rescued' during a hurricane evacuation for an ENTIRE WEEK, staying with me in a hotel 8 hours away from our homes. Another chick we skyped regularly every week to talk zen shit, another we would text every so often about music production (she dabbled in movie scoring on the side).
These chicks don't have friends. They don't have family. They aren't too bright. If you give them an inkling of a safe space, they'll covet it (if you want to provide that to them).

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>>28398573
>We regularly texted
caveat to this post
if you want attentiveness, they can give it.
don't fool yourself for a second thinking you can SAVE THEM.
you cannot. no one can.
no matter how simple of a fix it would be to turn their life around, YOU cannot do it, so don't even go down that mental road

>>28398573
>A vast majority of sex workers
>sex workers
Call them whores anon.

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>>28398595
>don't fool yourself for a second thinking you can SAVE THEM.
>you cannot. no one can.
>no matter how simple of a fix it would be to turn their life around, YOU cannot do it, so don't even go down that mental road

True. I know of an escort (whore) who retired and got married. I know the husband and he posts shit on social media about being depressed and unhappy.

>>28394232
I'd like some advice
I did this for the first time with a very cute college girl in Tokyo for about $500 - 2 hours
I don't expect to get that same value in the US but I was looking on tryst for pretty asians/japanese women and most of the results came up in las vegas
are those real? because there are about half a dozen listings and they all look supermodel tier only charging $500 an hour which is cheaper than some other ugly whores I've seen on the site
not trying to go to vegas and get scammed or get my organs trafficked

>>28398643
here are a couple examples
https://tryst.link/escort/kawaiisaki
https://tryst.link/escort/momokobaby1216

>>28398643
>only charging $500 an hour which is cheaper than some
you're thinking like a man, with reason.
sorry to say, but they fucking twats have no rhyme or reason why they charge what they charge.
they SHOULD max out at $300....then if they're exceptional in some areas, quantifiably bump that figure.
I've seen fat slobs charging $1000.
$500 isn't bad. Its amazing the kind of clientele girls can keep away just by being above $350.
>>28398663
ton of reviews, must be legit. Her instagram repeats the same studio shots.
She's not charging any deposits, so sound like the risk is nill

>>28398643
>only charging $500 an hour
they're charging for MASSAGE. Thats expensive for massage. Its not ideal, but not terrible as an escort
>supermodel tier
if those faces are 'super model' tier.....yikes. I think YOU value these gooks more than the general market does

>>28396673
the worst blowjob I've ever received was from a tranny
horrible, and you can't even correct him because he thinks he knows it all because he also has a penis
horrible, wouldn't recommend
also resorted to a blowjob because while in the pics it looked like a girl in person it was just a dude with a wig and I'm not into dudes

>>28398701
I said man not mentally ill freak

>>28398701
Worse blowjob I ever received was from a an escort with raving reviews on TER. Turns out she had a 10/10 reviewers who only reviewes her and the non-raving reviews 7/7 were by legitimate mongers. Bitches be faking their own review.

>>28395972
>platforms
It's called a website, you fucking zoomer

>>28394766
>This is not an offer of prostitution. Calling me constitutes acceptance of these terms. By contacting me either through phone or email you agree to this contract and these terms and hereby acknowledge that you are NOT part of any Law Enforcement agency using this advertisement for entrapment or for arrest !

Lol, they're that dumb, huh

>>28398770
>I do not authorize facebook to use any of my photos

>>28398710
>Worse blowjob I ever received was from a an escort with raving reviews on TER.
same
two in particular
https://tryst.link/massage/jacinda-vieuxdeaux
saw her multiple times, the blowjob was the kind you'd get from a teenager
> open mouth
> up, down,up,down on dick
nothing else

https://skipthegames.com/posts/mobile/female-escorts/caucasian_w/fantastic-blow-jobs-by-little-/363845077269
in-call at her RV in an RV park (oh boy)...imagine what that's like, walking up to someone's RV
go in her bedroom, she's considerably overweight and pretty short. I brought Prosecco and something else as a gift. She's floored that no one had ever been so thoughtful to her before, proceeds to tell me all about her girlfriend in prison now..... she gets to 'blowing' and its like the one above....unimaginative, "dick-in-mouth" action. That'd be like "eating pussy" and all I do is open my mouth on your clit...but she's the "throat goat". Turns out she tells me thats what she calls herself because thats all guys want from her (that's because they don't want to fuck you!)

>>28398770
>Lol, they're that dumb, huh
you know what they all do (this one was no different).
Tell them to give you their Amazon wishlist. Select anything, go to checkout....9 times out of 10, it has their REAL NAME on their Amazon account.

>>28398362
Source or more?

https://tryst.link/escort/ravynvirago

Never seen an escort before, but had my eye on this one. Looking for a sweet young perky white girl for a wholesome GFE ideally. But couldn't find much reviews when searching the number

I know I'm going to get called a faggot or whatever but have any of you fucked a crossdresser? I think I found a cute early 20s crossdresser in my area and I'm considering it. I don't suck dick and I don't bottom I'm just a guy attracted to femininity and wanted to try something new.

Thinking about visiting a whore that is probably already 60. Polish, only heard good so far, nice pleasent person and definitely good service.

The thing that makes her stand out are huge, really really big natural tits. And not the disgusting ones. Also with 60 you would think they are down to her belly button, but they are still pretty firm and nicely shaped. Could be my regular but she is only a town from time to time.

>>28398841
>Never seen an escort before, but had my eye on this one.
she has 6 reviews on TER. Careful with falling in love with their studio photos. Her offering 30 min outcalls means she's just trying to hustle and that the clientele she serves. Its economical, but you'd better plan on taking charge of her all the way.
>>28398853
faggot
>>28398841
>I'm just a guy attracted to femininity
every man is attracted to femininity, queer
>>28398867
>Thinking about visiting a whore that is probably already 60
used to see an Argentinian woman that was 60 for massage (she used to be an escort). Hands down the best body I've ever seen anywhere. She had these gorgeous MM C breasts, everything else was tight like an Olympian. Better body than any 20 something. it was ridiculous.
JULINKA VIP (if you were in New Orleans)

>>28398799
source is sugar daddy anon who post here often. Let's hope he sees it

>>28398573
This must have been a long time ago, like pre-2019 or so. Whores nowadays do not want to talk, they dont want anything to know about you, they want your money, want you to get out as quick as possible and for you to fuck off. That is the ideal for them. I remember trying to talk to one about wines(im a chef and work with sommeliers so i know about wine) and she tried to charge me per minute i spoke to her. Everything is priced out so bad. Closest i came to having a conversation was one escort i saw a few times giving me a massage and ranting about how much she hates black people. Which was, honestly, kinda funny. She was sucking me off, continuing her racist rant then going back to business. But, she never messaged me or talk to me off the clock. That is bizzare behavior to me. I guess i did have a girl ask me for $200 after i had seen her because her car broke down. I said if she does something for me then sure(because her blowjobs were so fucking good i might consider it, seriously i have no idea where she learned these skills but it was soul stealing) and after i sent that she didnt reach out to me again and didnt take up my offer.

Where i live i dont think they give a fuck about a safe space. And if they do the safe space they are used to is drug dens with hardened criminals. They would see your soft ass and rip you to shreds because they are just like that. Ive caught reputable whores trying to scam, steal, extort, blackmail, rob, etc in this area so i have to be super careful. In areas where its not legal you basically become a street smart criminal to get laid its insane.

>>28398595
>>28398627

All stand for the anthem.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQEkn6VIiJI

>>28398867
Enjoy, oldest woman ive been with was 50 and she was built like how you described too. Nice breasts, nice figure. I cant imagine the fucking knock out she was in her 20s. I will say there will be a bit of awkwardness if you are significantly younger than her. When i first saw her i was in my early 20s and there was such a divide age wise she was just probing towards what i like or dislike. She also used to make fake noises which annoyed me but i guess older guys like that since it sounds like an older porno, but to me the fake moaning is annoying and obvious.

>>28398993
>In areas where its not legal you basically become a street smart criminal to get laid its insane.
oh, indeed. If you expect anything, you'd definitely better have your shit together. The thing is, the 'game' these bitches or their pimps run is so 3rd grade shit you can see it coming a mile away. Its not clever at all.
>>28398993
>like pre-2019
2021-2024
'23-24 was almost exclusively sugar babying
all of this was non-stop, every week getting into or planning something
Does it matter that I NEVER did an in-call until after 7 months of mongering? So I was always "home turf". That may make a bit of difference on hospitality.

>>28398993
>ranting about how much she hates black people
she would've got a tip from just for that

>>28399028
>The thing is, the 'game' these bitches or their pimps run is so 3rd grade shit you can see it coming a mile away. Its not clever at all.

Sometimes. One local monger i know got robbed because the woman said she was going into the bathroom to "freshen up" then four big ass dudes with guns came into the room when she went into the bathroom and robbed the guy. Ruined her rep but i doubt she cared anymore. In that case im not sure what i would do other than immediately shoot when the guy came into the room and hope my rounds hit before theres do but thats a shitstorm that didnt need to happen.

>'23-24 was almost exclusively sugar babying

How rich do you need to be to sugar daddy? Like do you need to be visibly wealthy with a home and nice car? I keep seeing this and i kinda discount it because im a 29 year old with a mid wage job, no house and an ok car. It sounds cheaper than going after normal escorts but i feel like thats because these women are looking for rich guys. I dont consider myself rich at all just rich enough to afford an occasional twice a year luxury of sex. Although with the price i am hearing it could turn into 4 times a year luxury.

>all of this was non-stop, every week getting into or planning something

So you were seeing them weekly? That would do it. You were a regular source of income to them lol

>Does it matter that I NEVER did an in-call until after 7 months of mongering? So I was always "home turf". That may make a bit of difference on hospitality.

You mean you always invited them to your place or a hotel? Did you buy them a hotel to do shit from? If so i can see that being a difference in hospitality

>>28394688
>She says she swallows cum and fucks without a condom. Isn't this a guaranteed STD?

There's always a risk, no matter how high-class or bottom of the barrel she is...

Obviously your odds are greater if you get a $5 crackwhore behind a dumpster. But if you're paying $1000/hr for a freshly "legal" girl to come to your 5-star penthouse hotel room...odds are less, but the risk is still there.

BBBJs are 'safe' for the most part. Again, if you're getting that crackwhore, and she has an oozing cold sore on her lip; it's a no brainer you don't want to be sticking your dick in that.

>>28399051
She did, i also saw her a few times after, it threw me off so much though because she just opened with that conversation while giving me a massage so im trying to relax but im laughing too. The thing is she is $300/90min and doesnt have sex. I want to have sex with her, i think that would make her someone i would budget to see far more often but she just doesnt let me do anything other than oral. Ive eaten her out, fingered her, shes eaten me out, shes swallowed my cum on several occasions, shes showered with me and we've peed on each other, we've also made out and she also gives great massages. Every time i see her she ends up making me cum at least twice in an hour. Just no sex. Its annoying because she has like the puffiest, tightest feeling pussy. Ive even had outercourse with her, but i think she gets nervous about that, because its easy to slip in especially when she gets wet so we dont go on for long.

I am debating seeing her again though because last time i saw her she was like dialed in on what turns me on, and ended up making me cum four times in that nearly 2 hour session. But i am getting annoyed that she just wont fuck me. Theres other reviews of hers and apparently she does fuck other guys but for some reason not me. I dont know why, we have done a lot to each other but sex is just her limit, i think its the age difference. She is old enough to be my mom or my moms friend lol

>>28397511
salsa please?

>>28399004
It's okay, im in my late 30s, should be okay. From what I read she is pretty open, chill, and likes to get off. Cumshot on her tits included. French kissing if you look alright and are clean.

Love me some mature sluts. Can't wait for her German with polish accent, shit drives me wild

>>28399111
Oh yeah you should be fine, enjoy, sounds like the whole situation will be really hot. I saw a polish woman once and that accent whispered was asmr city when we fucked. Gave me two kinds of pleasure at once.

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>>28399111
>Can't wait for her German with polish accent, shit drives me wild
NGL hookers with American accents sounds annoying AF, you can hear the entitlement in their voice, like they're not selling their body for cash.

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>>28399057
>How rich do you need to be to sugar daddy? Like do you need to be visibly wealthy with a home and nice car?
i can only speak to my experience. I know other dudes that did much better than I with this approach (and same market/region).
The girls were cheaper. The girls were funner to be around. You could do more with them both around town and in the bedroom. I'm not gonna lie, I never had any that were sugar sweethearts that only fucked 1 dude in their life. I had girls that were DTF and liked being rewarded.
What worked for me was playing up what a mature man brings. What appealed to them was playing up the whole sexual energy thing (kundalini/tantric connection) because it was an easy disarming formula to get them to see I wasn't overly aggressive, but I was direct in what i was seeking. I played up being a benefactor & mentor
Every. Single. One came to my house on the first meet.
> come hang out in my living room/den with Prosecco or I had a full bar they could choose something else with one of those chartresuerarie boards with shit on it (lol)
> have a little small talk about what they're doing in life - share what my vibe is
> fool around on the couch
> take her to the bedroom to give her a 'tantric' massage that always ended up with them getting their asshole and pussy eaten then onto fucking
> they soak in my garden tub or enjoy a shower
> fully rested, then they leave
I was going through so many I had to schedule shit months out. I had one that insisted I have her come over and I rebuffed. She insisted and said she didn't want payment. Went through the whole deal above with her, had her convulsing in orgasm....she leaves (no payment) then asks for money the next day. I never obliged. Ended up being a 4-month sugar baby down the road.

Point is, i never spent any serious $ on any of them. Certainly way below what a whore would charge. You might get a whore to come over for an hour at $400. A SB might come over for 5 hours at $400.

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>>28399057
>So you were seeing them weekly? That would do it. You were a regular source of income to them lol
seeing girls not the same ones. General rule is NEVER see the same girl twice...very rare that you'll have a regular

>>28399057
>Did you buy them a hotel to do shit from?
did I rent them a room? fuck no
that is the worst idea anyone could think of....nothing but trouble.

"outcall" = my turf. My home or my suite
"in call" = their turf

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>>28399057
>just rich enough to afford an occasional twice a year luxury of sex
not rich enough, then. save your money and jerk off

Is there any realistic downside to who don't shave their pubes? I always found fully shaved women a little off-putting but it's hard to find ones that don't and most of them are older ones, but I'm considering looking for them specifically.

>>28395832
Saika Kawakita

>>28399137
Ok so you do need to have a house and shit together then. I live in a one bedroom studio apartment lol I dont live in a much better place than their peers except my space just looks nicer. This sounds like basically PUA shit except theres money involved to make up for lack of looks and charisma. You still need to improve many aspects of your life beyond what the average is.

>seeing girls not the same ones. General rule is NEVER see the same girl twice...very rare that you'll have a regular

Was it because they would ask for more than the first time because they think they got you?

>that is the worst idea anyone could think of....nothing but trouble.

I was thinking that but keeping up with whores also sounds like trouble, ripe game for backdooring and not in the fun way.

>>28399169
Yep thats where i am now. It sucks but i really need to understand money needs to come before everything else. Im not sure how to make more money but i know to do anything i want to do i got to make around $20k more than i do now per year. Things just keep getting more ruthless out there. I wish i had a anyone in my life because it would help immensely with self confidence, stress and sleep but that is a luxury. One that im not going to get despite other guys getting for less. As in free.

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>>28399178
>This sounds like basically PUA shit
i would say nothing like that.
PUA is a con game for the self-deluded or those lacking identity.
There is zero 'game' being run on sugar babies. In all my dealings, I was completely transparent in everything. It just so happens what I talked about resonates with a lot of them because
> 1. It absolves them of responsibility/accountability
> 2. They get a $$ boost that is coming from no where
> 3. they're getting desired attention from someone who isn't trying to force them into something /commitment
> 4. Those that take advantage of it, they get life direction/advice/counsel that they don't have in life.
> 5. A sanctuary to be a woman (without the kids, family, husband, bf) adored and pampered - its a brief mini vacation for many of them
If a woman was visiting a guy with a shitbox car and a studio apartment and was cool with that, you may as well just 'date' for free, then, because he doesn't have any resources beyond what other dudes her age have. Thats the appeal of a 'daddy' - someone that has way more power, control and access to resources than anyone she would date

I get what you're saying about being young and trying to find your place. I repeat from what I've shared above, WOMEN ARE THE LAST THING you / me need for validation in life. In a 24 hour day, how much are you truly longing for a woman's companionship? Something we all should evaluate.
of that time, how much is just for sex? how much is for 'touch'? how much time is for something other than that?
I know what its like to be around women....I generally don't want them around.period. I do recognize the importance of feminine energy and how her presence charges my masculinity, but I'm not gonna wanna talk current events, listen to music or watch a movie with them. I don't want them in my kitchen. I don't want to hear them running their mouth when I'm eating, either....

>>28399235
>there is zero 'game' being run on sugar babies. In all my dealings, I was completely transparent in everything.

Thats what i mean, you are using money to excuse charisma and looks which is usually what game is. Instead of following a ton of rules to a T you are bypassing all of that, saying hey, look, you arent going to be obsessed with me, or think anything of me, but you are going to like the money, so lets just focus on that. The other points you brought up are all good points to add to it.

>I get what you're saying about being young and trying to find your place. I repeat from what I've shared above, WOMEN ARE THE LAST THING you / me need for validation in life

Yeah its just hard when everyone around me, literally everybody, from the fattest most awkward nerd, to the charismatic jocks, to those in between are having ZERO problems with dating. Except for me. Only me. How am i supposed to believe, honestly, that i am worth a shit if i get rejected over dudes who are sweaty, out of shape, poorer than me and smell weird? Its like saying the product you make is nice, just no one wants to buy it ever. Like everyone around me is having all these experiences, i cant relate to. Everyone around me is having normal relationships while i am hiding in the shadows and trying to seek out hookers who might rob me or something. Its easy to say its not worth it when youve had your fun and are now looking for a less stressful/time consuming way to have it but for me, ive had nothing. I have been taught i am below zero. Not a 2/10, not a 1/10. Not a 0/10. A below zero. It makes me think there has to be something seriously objectively wrong with me, to the point where i am not seen as not just a man, but as human to begin with.

>>28399235
>In a 24 hour day, how much are you truly longing for a woman's companionship? Something we all should evaluate.

Constantly because its a luxury. An expensive, rare, luxury. And makes me feel normal. It is the one thing i have constantly lacked in life, from childhood tell now.

>of that time, how much is just for sex? how much is for 'touch'? how much time is for something other than that?

Its greater purpose and a feeling of being seen as successful and respected. For me a woman is like having a nice house and car. Its a sign you were put through, modern day at least, the HARSHEST filter mankind has had in 4000 years. It is a sign you are a normal person, and a successful one. Its why it pisses me off when i see these mid to below average dudes still scoring when every statistic i see is saying that should be rare, and most dudes shouldnt be enjoying this. What did they do to deserve to pass such a brutal and unrepentant filter? Why do i have to work so hard to get what they get for free? It makes me want to flat out go caveman mode, smash their head with a rock and take their women slave style but obviously i cant do that so ill just think about them bitterly.

>I know what its like to be around women....I generally don't want them around.period. I do recognize the importance of feminine energy and how her presence charges my masculinity, but I'm not gonna wanna talk current events, listen to music or watch a movie with them. I don't want them in my kitchen.

I can agree with the last part. I dont talk current events with women and i dont want them in my kitchen either. Cuddled up with a movie sounds nice though.

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>>28399283
>something seriously objectively wrong with me
well...........?
you're on 4chan

All you can do is confront all your weaknesses and do it for yourself. Be self-reliant and self-assured. Women are never a solution. They ALL are fucked up.bigly. I wish that wasn't the case, i love women....but the fact is they're garbage. The formula to make a sound woman is simple and can be done, but it is so, so rare, that I wouldn't hold out hope that there is some angel out there that is going to make your life better. Women are adult children that become your responsibility as a man, except these children talk back, resist your authority and can put you in jail just to win an argument over what you're having for dinner.
>>28399303
>Constantly
are you the same anon above whining about life? You didn't date as a child growing up? You should focus on what specifically you're seeking in a woman. There is something deeper than "women".
Its feeling loved, appreciated, valued, smart, wanted/desired..........
you could have a woman at your feet and STILL feel this way until you address whats really wrong with you.
If you see a whore, you can use her as an exhibition game to solve your personal issues, you can use her to get pleasure, but to get 'normal', only YOU can solve that

>>28399337
>Are you the same anon above whining about life? You didn't date as a child growing up?

No? That was someone else ive been single my entire life.

>You could have a woman at your feet and STILL feel this way until you address whats really wrong with you.

People say this but i think like five to ten years ago if i had one this problem would be solved.

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>>28399337
>i love women....but the fact is they're garbage.
Straight FAX. Got so tired of their bullshit. The mental gymnastics they do so they can feel better about themselves after they pull some op shit pisses me off. This is why I only fuck whores, no GFE, when I'm horny and hang out with the boys for social interactions. I love the agencies that does something 300/hrs and rotate Brazilians around I even share the best info with my fantasy football bros.

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>>28398701
Worst one I ever got was from a woman in her late 30s
I was leaning my head back when a tear fell out of my eye and I was like "???? this BJ isn't even good why am I even crying!???"
After a few minutes I told her to stop and I just ate her out and called it a night.
Next morning I wake up to shower and feel some INTENSE pain on my dick, look down and I see fucking teethmarks on the head of my boy. How do you fuck up that badly that you bite down during BJs

>>28399405
Worse blowjob i got was from this former Scores woman with big tits. Tits still big but she hit the wall. She popped some mint in her mouth and that shit BURNS. Had to tell her to stop, couldn't even fuck her my cock felt like it got dipped in a vat of acid. She said men like the cooling effect, but apparently my cock is sensitive to that shit.

>>28399405
>>28398701
I matched with one on tinder a while back, but it was like a god tier tranny that looked super feminine. Looked like an asian bimbo, super hot in the pics. Anyway, I decide to go through with it because I was so horny at the time and we ended up agreeing to talk on the phone after texting a little bit and the voice ruined it for me. It was like a raspy, obviously a guy doing a girly voice, and it completely shattered the illusion so I never went through with it.

>>28398841
Some advice for you and everyone else who never had an escort. Majority of the ones you see online are either scammers or lying about their pics.
If they ask you for cash app or ANYTHING but cold hard cash in front of them, leave. Don't even bargain or talk just leave. It's a scam.
Always do a background search on an image. If it shows up on some other sites as someone else or in some other location, it's a scam.
If you get a bad feeling in your gut, leave. 9/10 times that saves you from either a loony bitch who pulls a knife out on you (had it happen once) or a Honeypot
Always plan your exit for that reason above. Park a block away from her spot or the motel
When texting or calling do not be specific "I would like $250 for half an hour of sexual intercourse." In case it's a Honeypot. Just say "Saw your post. Interested in HH." They will let you know if they are available or not.

Just be smart and use your brain. We've all be scammed at some point we've all been lied to and a lot of us probably dodged a Honeypot (I did by refusing to enter anapartment building when I drove around and saw 3 cop cars sitting in the back).

Also final advice. They fuck dozens of men every day. Hundreds of dicks a month. You aren't special. This isn't Pretty Woman. Just make small talk, fuck her, and go. She doesn't want you. She wants your money and will pull every trick she knows to make you feel like she likes you so you come back and give her more money.

Other than that, have fun if you go for it. I know I make it sound dangerous and scary but as long as you're smart you'll be fine.

>>28399390
>>28399395
>>28399401
GOOD SHIT, ANON

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>>28399439
>Some advice
qualify your advice
how many $1000/hr escorts have you seen?
how many sugar babies have you had?

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>>28399401
>>28399395
>>28399479
dis nigga sure be lovin him some
> MAPS OF THE WORLD

>>28394441
>and genuine
Anon, come on dude

Any good experiences with bbw/fat hookers or prostitutes?

>>28399467
>Qualify
I will NEVER waste $1K on a fucking whore
>Sugarbabies
I stopped using those after 3 or 4 times

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>>28399488
its important to quantify your statement about how everything is ghetto tier
> if all you do is frequent ghetto tier trash
"DON'T EAT MEAT, ITS GROSS AND BAD FOR YOU"
> only has eaten at Burger King
If you're backpage listcrawler seeking the dregs of the gutter, YES, you will absolutely have a bad time and probably be gutted.
Your experiences are limited. You can't make sweeping generalizations on something you have zero experience with and call that "advice"

Any Boston brothers got some good sites to check out?

>>28399508
TER is big in Boston

>>28399508
I'm on the other half of the state and I usually use tryst. My first text is usually asking them if they're in Boston or in the surrounding area because the tunnels always screw with my gps.

Which is also why I mainly go to Hartford

>>28399503
I will not waste $1K on a whore
Pussy is not worth it

>>28398201
The pictures are pretty accurate to a point since they all wear makeup in the pictures and videos. They will wear makeup when they are on the job. The girls are in their 20s and 30s but for advertisement purposes, they are all in their 20s. The mamasan is in her 40s. They do have an older cleaning lady but she is not for sale. This is a chain store. I think the owner have 3 or 4 of these all over New York. Found other sites with the same design style of the stupid butterfly on the face. Mamasan also confirmed that there are other stores in the city. They rotate girls in and out of different stores to keep it fresh. This store offers rim jobs by the Chinese providers. The Spanish providers usually do less but you get the Spanish booty. There was a provider in the fall that does BBFS but she was rotated out.

As soon as I get my tax return I’m gunna hit the main drag and get a streetwalker. Wish me luck bros

>>28395844
I wish it was girls like Eva Lovia instead of nobodies.

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>>28399811
Sending you my blessings.

>>28399811

what city do you live in?

>>28399869
150? Im ready let's go!

>>28398418
Not everyone is a homo or wants that. It doesnt matter how good at head a fag is or how tight bussy is, there is a clear difference between pussy and a man's ass.

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>>28399869
>604

Ah Vancouver, wish the AMP around me had those prices and women that hot, that would be fucking awesome. I would visit them like once a month and my life would be so much better.

Pic relatedish. Last asian escort i saw. Cost about 3x the price of that girl. Put her clothes on the second i picked up my phone. Nice body regardless.

>>28400215
"you have to choose what you have sex with. Do you choose a self cleaning self lubricating organ that is made for a dick, or a hairy hole that shit comes out of?"

Wow, tough choice lol

>>28400215
Bussy is good bro just accept it

>>28400098
Hot

>>28399817
A-listers are probably harder to find unless you're an actual producer. Agents most likely convince those girls that they don't want to lower their stock by fucking the stereotypical fat white monger or black man.

They're absolutely right to split hairs so they can charge Brazzers and Naughty America 10k per shoot.

By contrast, you could maybe severely limit someone's porn career by mongering off of sexyjobs.

>>28400244
>By contrast, you could maybe severely limit someone's porn career by mongering off of sexyjobs.

Ive known several escorts who actually do amateur porn with johns and discount the price if you sign a release form. I almost saw two actually, one was a latina the other was this white girl. The latina ended up having a "family emergency" and couldnt come to my city, whatever that means and the white girl i couldnt see because my car was needing repairs and wouldnt be done in the time period she was in my city. There was a trans escort who was apparently recording people with hidden cams and just openly posting them on their onlyfans and for a while, pornhub. Im not sure if this was ever discovered or any of her johns doxxed because the faces were not blurred and it was obvious they had no idea about the cameras because they were recorded walking in and clearly had just seen the tranny for the first time.

Imagine that, you do some gay shit in private and get blasted online.

>>28399869
followup ?

>>28400233
I'm bisexual, that doesn't mean everyone is a gay or homo. Are some gay men good at head? No doubt, but no, not everyone is gay or on the downlow. Not everyone is into that and it isn't a choice. If someone is fucking men, they either already were attracted and gay to begin with or didn't know they were gay. There is no switching to homosexuality just because women are this or that
>>28400231
"just go gay bro" Cause its a fucking choice.

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>>28400396
>I'm bisexual,
> that doesn't mean a gay or homo
uh, yeah it does, faggot

>>28400406
>purposefully misread my post
You're a gay. I said not everyone is gay or homosexual. Not everyone is into that, that is why your suggestion that everyone just turn gay and fuck twinks is dumb.

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>>28400434
nope,too late
you already said you like jerking guys off until they cum on your face.
no take backs, ya fucking queer

>>28400396
>"just go gay bro" Cause its a fucking choice.

exactly why i was mocking him

>>28399818
>>28399824
AB, I think the winter has negatively affected the scene, the only people left are pros charing a premium. Might save it until spring or early summer when all the desperate druggies come back. That’s how you get good cheap pussy

>>28399401
Grunts sound like a character in a PS1 era game taking damage.

>>28398904
What do the reviews say, and what do you mean taking charge of her?

>>28400532
I meant ABQ

>>28398201

kek, I've actally been here plenty of times, picrel. Only one that doesn't look close to her pics is Suki. She's late 30s at a minimum. Everyone else is +3 years of their posted age at a maximum. Abby is probably the cutest there now. The great thing about BH is that it's a CAMP, so the Chinese providers will rim the FUCK out of you for as long as you want. A lot of the girls will also film with no tip. I go here when I want something a ittle more nasty/rough. My usual places are more the innocent 18-20 year old type. My speciality is always fucking every new sub 5'4" girl when they are in my shops lol.

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>>28400617

forgot pic

>>28398193

You sound like you couldn't afford a regular girl let alone a working girl, faggot

>>28397629
> i want to be a normal straight guy without gross desires

Your problem is literally that you think you're straight. Those desires are only gross because you think you're straight.

No thinking you're straight ---> no sexual anxiety.

Admit to yourself that you are not and the anxiety will leave you. I don't know why faggots like you can't just accept that you're not straight, it just makes you more anxious and weird. Which makes you more offputting and probably leads to most of the behavior that makes homophobia so appealing.

Stop it, admit your faggotry and move on. I'm straight, you know what doesn't turn me on? Dicks. You know what I don't have? The same sexual anxiety you have because I live my life and my sexuality are aligned. Do the same, nothing wrong with being gay/bi, just accept yourself.

>>28400631
You can always tell who is an anime faggot by if they consider 20+ "old" lmao

>>28400617
Im surprised there is a brothel just openly being run in Manhattan and from it sounds like for a while now too. Totally different world. There is something similar to that where i am, except its more of a traveling brothel, pretty sure a majority of them are sex trafficked. They show up in hotels, airbnbs, random houses. Apparently they are real but ive never seen them because its too damn sketchy to me but others in my area have and said its legit. Mainly asian women.

>>28395751

>I've never had oral sex
>write blowjob erotica etc

lmao Gen Z is such a faggot generation

>>28400654
Because i think its a porn based fetish. I think it is caused by porn and sex addiction and a constant chase and rush to find the next exciting thing. I have a feeling if i went and did that i would just end up regretting it because its not who i am, it was something i did to get a kick because things got boring with women. I further dont think im actually gay because i dont think sexual thoughts when i look at men.

>>28399817

I fucked Hazel Moore when she was in my city

>>28396474
>woman is like five foot seven wearing heels so she looks mad tall
you are a fucking manlet LOL

>>28400657

Why are you suprised? There are literally hundreds of AMPs, studios, and CDP/FH here. There's 8 million people in this city lol, it would be weird if they weren't here.

>>28400670
>something i did to get a kick because things got boring with women

Read that back to yourself and try to convince me you're straight

>>28400695
I sometimes forget the police dont give a huge amount of shit about this unless minors are involved or someone is looking for a reelection. Where i live it is just unthinkable that theres just a permanent location where you can go and no problem fuck some hookers. Everything is so lowke and hidden.

>>28400701
A gay or bi guy would find a romantic or deeper interest in a man while looking like and being a man. I am talking purely sexual and with men who look like women. I feel like this debate has been had millions of times.

Going to Thailand soon, and recomendations for apps / sites for meeting Thai escorts?

Whats a good / reliable one to use while I'm there?

>>28400719
WTF is lowke? Sounds like name of a really shitty Norwegian death metal band, or your english is broke.

>>28400741
>he made a typo
>better make a reddit-tier quip about it

Faggot.

You guys are no better than those gay guys that call themselves bug chasers. At least they're honest about it

>>28400754
Our goal is usually to fuck different women in different situations. I get tested regularly and use protection often. How is that anything like dudes who are trying to purposely catch aids?

>>28400745
You type your own reply in greentext like someone actually said that?

You must be a MAGA Trumper to use big words like faggot? Haha, thanks for the laugh.

Last thing, WTF is reddit-tier?? And I thought the last guy had broke his english, wowza. Proven wrong again I guess.

>>28400719
>A gay or bi guy would find a romantic or deeper interest in a man while looking like and being a man. I am talking purely sexual and with men who look like women. I feel like this debate has been had millions of times.

I'm not that anon >>28400701, but this was just about the least persuasive, "I'm not gay, guys! Really, I'm not!" that I think I've ever heard on this site, and that's really saying something.

The fact is, you put your penis inside of another men. That one or more of them guzzles HRT like a retard, bolted some tits on their chest, and wears dresses is immaterial. You're a faggot. Q.E.D.

tl;dr

Once a Twinkerbell, always a Twinkerbell. Faggot.

>>28399379
Sauce? Always forget her name!

are there any who do it not because their lives are fucked up, but because they just really enjoy sex

>>28401080
My life is fucked up because I enjoy sex and can't get a 6/10 and won't settle for less than a 6/10 and don't like overweight women despite being overweight.

>>28395091
Damn sneaky samurai always hanging out around the whores

>>28399439
Yikes.

I'm thinking a foolproof way to avoid any trouble would be to have a normal first date in a public place before moving on to anything serious? Especially if you're going for the more slow / romantic vibe anyway

>>28398709
i'd rather receive mediocre blowjobs from girls the rest of my life rather than mouthfuck a dude bro, more power and dicks for you if you're into that
i got fooled by 4chan and their incesant tranny threads but in person they never pass.

>>28401121
This.
I just want to fuck hotter girls, but can't do that as a manlet. And it's fun to see the escort's reaction when I take off my shirt because I'm a fit guy.

>>28399283
Quick somebody hit the incel alarm we've got a live one

Real talk though anon, dating is bullshit. It's fun for a while because you get regular sex but it turns into a job. You always have to answer your phone, plan dates, spend money. Companionship is fantastic, I really suggest finding some bros you can actually open up and be vulnerable with and stop putting women on a pedestal. Get some hobbies, meet people, potentially single women, and just talk to them like they're human beings. They aren't, obviously, but pretend.

Also, go into encounters with the expectation that they'll be amenable, be it cold approaches or asking out an acquaintance. If they say no or make a deal about it, they're fucking weird and you didn't want that anyway

>>28400719
You're heteroromantic and bisexual fag, you can have your relationship preferences differ from your fuckhole preferences

>>28400496
Nuh uh, no backsies is only a rule if you mentioned gay sex first, which I didn't, so you're the one who likes being topped. >>28400524
The nerve of some gays.

>>28400754
How so? A bug chaser is going into a sexual encounter with the sole purpose of catching something. Most anons use condoms and would not use them if it weren't for the risk of getting something. I can only speak for myself but I'm reckless and careless when it comes to barebacking and I've caught gono before but it wasn't what I was going for, I was just being way too cavalier about the whole std thing.

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>>28401415
> I was just being way too cavalier about the whole std thing
I'm the same way, fortunately never caught anything, tested every3 months. Russian Roulette with your cock is a hell of a rush.

>>28394232
has anyone gone to a "meet up" with an onlyfans creator or one of these twitter whores? i'm not talking about the big time accounts like lilly phillips

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>>28401498
>has anyone gone to a "meet up" with an onlyfans creator or one of these twitter whores?
i tried with a small time girl that lives in my state (allegedly). She only gets 80 viewers at a time. Did the whole sugar baby rap on her, no obligation thing, but don't underestimate just how dumb these girls are. They'll look a gift horse in the mouth and get skittish because the horse isn't beating her. I'm sure it could work, but its a big jump (not in reality) to go from performing on cam because you chose to, all the way to being 'talked into' fucking strangers for money when it wasn't your idea

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>>28401533
>its a big jump (not in reality) to go from performing on cam because you chose to, all the way to being 'talked into' fucking strangers for money when it wasn't your idea
i mean, shit, look how difficult it is in this thread alone, to convince incel faggots to go outside or to queers to stop taking it up the ass

>>28401535
>Convince incel faggots to go outside
And sperg? Not going outside isn't what makes an incel an incel, but rather the immense levels of social awkwardness that result in social cringe. If not going outside made you an incel, then there wouldn't be an incel problem since nobody would be so severely mentally ill and socially awkward that all it would take is just to walk out the door and walk into the world as a socially well adjusted individual.

>>28401579
Go outside? And get caught by the 4chan party van? No thank you!

>>28394851
its illegal to fuck in germany without a condom?

>>28401535
How do i search the internets for videos of young, hairless guys like in your hif fucking girls?
Twink returns only gay stuff, never twinks fucking girls...

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>>28400719
If you are gay, there is also a gay spa in the same building as www.barbiehouseny.com with guy providers.

>>28400617
Suki knows she is not as pretty as the other girls, so she is extra aggressive during lineups.