Beach Riders EditionThis thread is explicitly mandated with the topic of no blacked, nonhuman (orc), or granny gens (protect the elderly).Remember to report off-topic posts!Previous Thread: >>7966515>LOCAL FORGEUI **NEW**https://github.com/lllyasviel/stable-diffusion-webui-forge>LOCAL WEBUI SETUP *OLD*https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/wiki>LOCAL COMFYUI *OBSOLETE*https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUIhttps://comfyanonymous.github.io/ComfyUI_examples/https://openart.ai/workflows/templates>LOCAL MODELShttps://civitai.com/models/257749/horsefucker-v6https://civitai.com/models/288584/autismmixhttps://civitai.com/models/184813/animeconfettitunexlhttps://rentry.org/5exa3 (hll+fluff) *OLD*https://gitgud.io/gayshit/makesomefuckingporn (use wayback machine) *OLD*>PAIDNovelAI: https://rentry.org/hdg-nai-v3>RESOURCESFeatures: https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/wiki/FeaturesTraining: https://rentry.org/59xed3 | https://github.com/derrian-distro/LoRA_Easy_Training_ScriptsTags: https://danbooru.donmai.us/wiki_pages/tag_groups | https://danbooru.donmai.us/related_tagControlNet: https://rentry.org/dummycontrolnetIOPaint (LamaCleaner): https://huggingface.co/spaces/Sanster/iopaint-lama | https://www.iopaint.com/installAnimation: https://rentry.org/AnimAnonWildcards: https://rentry.org/NAIwildcardsBooru: https://aibooru.online4chanX Catbox/NAI prompt userscript: https://rentry.org/hdgcbNAI API/prompting in auto1111: https://github.com/Metachs/sdwebui-nai-apiPony-related: https://rentry.org/ponyxl_loras_n_stuff | https://rentry.org/ponyxl_lora_previews | https://lite.framacalc.org/4ttgzvd0rx-a6jfOP Template/Logo: https://rentry.org/hdgtemp/raw | https://files.catbox.moe/xk99gy.png | https://files.catbox.moe/35bdt5.gif>Related>>>/aco/sdg>>>/g/sdg>>>/d/ddg>>>/e/edg>>>/u/udg>>>/vt/vtai>>>/vg/aids>>>/b/degen>>>/trash/sdg
This lora will be SOVLFVLhttps://files.catbox.moe/va9fvk.jpg
FURRY BROS, I kneel and once again am asking for you to save us. How much longer do we have to be under the yoke of the Horse Lover? Nai Furry V3 looks like some early 1.5 stuff. BEG YOU!
>>7968916Cool story, bro.
>>7968916no point making rules if no one is enforcing them
>>7968916>BUT I SAID NO TAG BACKS
Welp, so like I was saying...https://files.catbox.moe/bf3zha.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/hs4jxw.pngCan anyone help me find out what I'm doing wrong? Trying to recreate this but idk if my settings are fucked. The lighting/face never gets replicated.Is it because I have the old 31337 delta?
>>7968916
>>7968936The delta does change the seed but you'd be getting a different image then
Posted without realizing there was a new thread, so I'll leave it here again.Made a silly DoRa for the child gf by orenji. Think it turned out alright for only having 3 training images. Exhaustively tagged everything to keep it from burning too much, so you'll need to use most of the character tags to get the correct look. Main tag is "child gf (orenji)", rest you can find in the metadata.https://files.catbox.moe/t3bsmm.safetensorshttps://files.catbox.moe/hbo2tf.png (embed)
So what controlnet models actually work for sdxl?For openpose only one that worked for me was OpenPoseXL2
>>7968940vae maybe? I'm using the default pony one.
>>7968991Analyze those boxes. When I put them in I noticed some of the settings were different.
>>7968936Pictures made using a big batch count will not be the exact same as the one done with a batch count of 1, no idea why
any word on when sd3 is coming out? read about it like months ago it seems
>>7969006Bruh, shit like >>7968778>>7968870is just a picture of a giant throbbing cock with a girl in the background not even interacting with it in any way. It's exactly the same as just pasting a picture of a cock over a picture of a girl. The entire fetish is fucking called big black cock, not ebony or even interracial. It is fundamentally about worshipping black dick. It's incredibly gay.
>>7969017Someone said it adds 1 to the seed
just two more weeks guys...
>>7969019api is out, they have to cuck it some more and add 10 billion training images of astronauts and dogs before the full release tho
>>7969022that cant be it because the picture will be 80-90% the same instead of just a different seed
sad
>>7969024what's the hubbub about this?
>>7969038some retard keeps posting gens from the underbaked model, which surprise surprise, look like shit because they're underbaked, it's getting fucking annoying
>>7969039Your seething about it every single time is pretty funny, I hope he keeps doing it just for this.
>>7969047it's not personal, i bully everyone who posts garbage
How about you fucking limp dick complainers post gens instead?https://files.catbox.moe/vf76m2.png
>>7969052lot of work to do over here then
Remember to report off-topic posts. We get to decide our thread topics, if someone wants to post things that are not part of a given thread's topic, they must make their own thread. You can't go in the pokegirl thread and start posting Asuka and Rei, even if they are /h/ content. Off-topic posts are against the global rules. Always report off-topic posts. As a reminder, >This thread is explicitly mandated with the topic of no blacked, nonhuman (orc), or granny gens (protect the elderly).
>>7969069>You can't go in the pokegirl thread and start posting Asuka and ReiWait am I not supposed to post pokegirls here either?
>>7969069based
trjanny
>>7969070If you're not an annoying ass maybe no one will mind
>>7969069>no nonhuman>posts a goddess
>>7969073I think this is particularly good advice for posting anything really
>1girl, large breasts, wide hips, thick thighs>1girl, LOLI, large breasts, wide hips, thick thighs>makes the face noticeably cuter>still looks like an adult so I'm not a pedoNow that's a life hack!
>>7969069I'm doing my part!
>>7969092kino posewas this controlnet or luck?
what da hell is going on
kek
>>7969094"piledriver, from side, ankle grab" and luck
>>7969104Jannie overpurge
>>7969109Off-topic?
>>7969110Is henty
>>7969112>This thread is explicitly mandated with the topic of no blacked, nonhuman (orc), or granny gens (protect the elderly).
>>7969114Nobody cares, take meds.
>>7969115I asked ,I care
>>7969116>take meds
>>7969114Those aren't orcs, those are buff forest elves with active camouflage
>>7969119Later
this KILLS the vanillasplitter
>>7969123BASEDMOAR
who the fuck is this
Nutted
>>7969129It's clearly Rosalina...
Mods are awake, in honor of janny supremacy, I post maid supremacy. >>7969120Fair enough, carry on citizen. Want to know a secret? Nobody really cared about blacked gens until they were 90% of the content of the thread due to being posted every minute by one single low effort poster who never inpainted or changed up his gens in any way.
>>7969130ayy lmao
>>7969129it looks like crash bandicoot mixed with bowser
>>7969130glad to see that ai still doesnt understand how to draw gigantic breast without making the torso too long
The thread, it's so clean... janny sama please...
>>7969129Tails wasn't the same after the incident
>>7969139>battle maidbased
>>7969132Nothing personal against orc, but I hate this patreonstyle spam which I'm pretty sure then gets posted on patreon
>>7969145Give me an artist or artist mix and I'll switch it up
>>7969150cant you do anything on your own you dumb toddler?
>>7969150What is that style?
>>7969150>>7969139why are nai gens always so much nicer to look at?
>>7969153the magic of smea
>>7969153better base sense of aesthetics because of its model not having been tainted by western, fur and pony shitit's just easier to make something easy to look at with NAI
>>7969150the magic of smegma
>>7969150Anything really, just not to see those vomit-inducing colors. You can start from "official art"
>>7969155>said about an image with a fully westernized styleWhat did he mean by that?
>>7969153Doesn't have inherited AOM slop look, you can also get somewhat like this with animagine if you put 'ai-generated' in negs
>>7969158Shhh, it's ok Billy learned a new a buzzword from this thread. He is having fun using it, let him have fun.
>>7969132Is that a kenkou cross lora? I need that badly.
>>7969163>lora k e kjust use uncucked models
>>7968969Nice. Based low dataset trainer>>7969163It's NAI
>>7969151K, I'll continue to just post things I like then. Good talk. >>7969152artist:ratatat74, artist:geewhy, artist:personal ami, but also all mixing with BNHA's style - innate franchise style is very strong for popular IPs. geewhy is actually the most dominant there despite being 2nd, just the way things are sometimes. It's a strong style that suits itself well to BNHA's official style, though I think the hands are too blocky. >>7969157Of course, how foolish of me to have characters be on-model colors. I've adjusted it in response to your feedback.
>BBC posting is stopped>NAI shitposting begins insteadwew
>>7969169BASED SEPIA
>>7969169fucking kek, ponysloppers really be like
>>7969169more sovlfvl desu
>>7969174ponytard brain damage
>>7969162>ratatat74, geewhy, personal amiWell known purely Japanese artists GEG
>>7969166It just workshttps://files.catbox.moe/2z7hu0.png
>>7969176That's really funny, NAI even with all the western/korean artists in prompt manages to look less western than ponyslop. Base model really is everything.
>>7969159Picrel
>>7969179does this tag work on pony too?
>>7969178>got btfo'd >makes up some shitThat's hilarious honestly, thanks.
who are you talking to bwo
>>7969178LMAO, hey anon no take backsies
>>7969179The bottom one looks more like AI slop than the top tb h desu
>>7969180No, use animagine refiner>>7969184retard
I don't get the hate for NAI
>>7969184Honestly yes because the contrast and lighting is more fucked on the bottomThe rest is similar
>>7969150ash yokoshima>>7966616>>7966698you can find the loras in the rentry, they are all in the same mega as kezime/shirow, rentry is just not up to date.
>>7969186poverty, sour grapes
>>7969186Well the fuckers are gonna prune artist tags so soon so there is that
>>7969176Did you know there are japanese artists who don't have a stereotypically hentai style and there are non-japanese artists who do? Moreover, did you know that mixing artists, models, and other tags can produce style results that aren't the same as any artist in the mix? Shocking.
>>7969186It's just one anon trying his darnedest to shit up the thread. >>7969170He swaps between tactics when one gets stale.
>>7969192irrelevantmoving goalposts
>>7969150Asura***r
>>7969192LMAO it's sad at this point, you fucked up anon
>>7969193Holy shit you actually changed your artist mix. Congratulations anon.
>>7969184>>7969187That's the point, top is using "ai-generated" in negatives obviously
>>7969201Oh. Kek. My bad.
>>7969180It does in positives and you can get some prime AOMjank, but I never tried it in negs.
>>7969188>ash yokoshimaNeat artist. Do they have another name they produce work under? Not very many tagged posts on danbooru so NAI won't hack it, and can't find a lora to use on pony.
Is it still /aco/ if it's a comic character in an anime style?
>>7969208No.
>>7969199>he actually look at the pictures
>>7969208It's aco when schizoanon doesn't like itMay not be limited to too much gradient on skin and too thick lines
>>7968969Do u think DoRA is useful/makes the difference?
>>7969209>>7969212I wanted to do some Raven as pony recognizes her by default but figure it may end up too /aco/, thanks
>>7969208It's simple.If it has any non-flat shading, it's /aco/. If the artist who made it was conceived (let alone born or visited) on filthy non-Nipponese clay, it's /aco/.If someone doesn't like it, it's /aco/. Hopefully this guide helps.
>>7969202i dont care about the interracial controversy in this thread but this style is complete ass jsyk
>>7969212>it may be aco when it looks like acocorrect
>>7969216I think that's the point.
>>7969217I have terrible news for 99% of the thread with uncensored genitals..
What is aco? Acoustic?
god i have so much shit to xyz still
>>7969205https://files.catbox.moe/szz4kb.png
been away for a couple weeks, any consensus on dora? is it a straight upgrade from loras or not worth it?
I always wonder if any anons from here do the whole patreonbuxx fleecing of retards.
>>7969223doesn't seem to do anything
>>7969229what do you prompt for the android lines?
Alright /h/, I'll bite. Give me your MOST /h/ artist, the one artist you think is most indisputably /h/ content exclusively. The one single artist you think nobody could possibly argue is /aco/, no matter how schizo they may be.
>>7969236Asanagi
>>7969236(((official style, anime screencap)))
>>7969236asura (asurauser)
>>7969238I've literally had people complain about my asanagi gens being /aco/ because he uses shading. >>7969239But what if an anime has an official western style?!>>7969240Can't argue with that (thatuser)
>>7969236takanoyukiand all the unsung heroes that drew shit for big studios in 2007
>>7969241That looks like dalleslop aaaa
>>7969236Shadman
>>7969241>But what if an anime has an official western style?!this is not anime anymore and shouldn't be posted here
>>7969249yet we see psg posts and no one minds
>>7969236Don't most hentai artists use digital tools that are all developed in the west?
>>7969253Made for my nose.
>>7969253God I love anus cutouts and that pony actually manages to do them
>>7969244>takanoyukiA strong contender, but can it make teen titans /h/ content?>>7969249I was gonna bring up PSG but >>7969251 beat me to it. Then, in your opinion, is PSG an anime?>>7969248>shadman>winslowwalkingout.gif
>>7969241box?
>>7969253Oh My mother. Box please
>>7969234Add cyberpunk somewhere in the prompt and pray to the proompt gods. They stem most likely from the cyberpunk77 anime, which has infested the tag on pony.
>>7969260https://files.catbox.moe/bb9faq.png
>Spend a couple hours trying to curate an image set for SHODAN>Go so far as creating a shitty lora that's just a dump of all the images of SHODAN I can find on the internet (which is not much, like 40 images, half of which are total garbage) so I can gen a few more training images for "final" lora.>Results are shit and just using the original dumb/lazy lora at higher strength gives way better results.God I hate lora training sometimes. Feels like I wasted my night. Gonna try again later I guess.
>>7969259It's nai but here you gohttps://files.catbox.moe/xyliay.pngAnd here are a bunch of other sleeping 2hus I made while testing which artists NAI could pull off decently. Prompts are shit but maybe you get some ideas. https://files.catbox.moe/5rifpy.zip
>>7969262Holy SNIFF
>>7969251>>7969258>is PSG an anime?No. It's existence on this board is offtopic and people only bring it when it's handy for /aco/ baits.
>>7969258Maybe?I'm gonna bake a full retro lora later today too.
>>7969263Based AI fucker. Good luck
>>7969261ah I see, thanks
>>7969258So that's probably /h/ Raven and pic related is more /aco/ Raven>grey skin just doesn't want to work no matter the weightI assume it's an artist thing? Only 25% of my images end up with it.
>>7969266So, to your mind, anime style is frozen in time and can never change or evolve?
>>7969270Don't listen to that stupid retard, there are tags for that. android, cyborg, cracked_skin, doll_joints, robot_joints, etc.
>>7969213So far I'm really happy with the results and the smaller file size compared to the same rank non-DoRa. Both style and characters have worked well for me, so I'll keep using it.https://files.catbox.moe/sgygga.png
>>7969272>/aco/ bait
To be honest with ya, I don't think DoRA even does anything dude, I mean I can't spot a difference between that and a normal lora, I thought it was more flexible but now I realize it could be just because I trained on base LoCon 8dim and 8 conv dimhttps://files.catbox.moe/man2n1.png
>>7969205 me>>7969223Well, on purely bare 1girls, I'd say it does a lot. Less of that disgusting shiny blown out lighting.
>>7969278Still my bake was done with Prodigy which I don't trust that much. I need to test with the good ole AdamW
>>7969273cyborg is the best and most accurate one
>>7969271If you want a quick fix, download this https://civitai.com/models/412163?modelVersionId=459378 and put set the weight at like 0.6. I don't have the krekkov lora, so I just left it out. Also you might want to reconsider the resolution you're genning at.
>>7969278Maybe it does something, but I doubt that any of the civitai jeets who use terrible settings on terrible datasets with terrible prompts will see any improvement. Good loras are already superb, the real question is why can't every lora be a good lora? What we need isn't a better lora, it's better bakers. Unless dora is somehow more jeetproof, but then god will simply make a dumber jeet.
>>7969279huh that does actually look significantly better
>>7969279Less plasticky but arguably better? It's the same deal with the '3d' tag neg.
>>7969283Thanks for that. >Also you might want to reconsider the resolution you're genning at.Too high?
>>7969279>>7969286That's not pony though? Regardless, it makes gens even more /aco/.
>>7969288Yeah it's autism, shorthand.And yeah 3d in negs also makes the images better but more thick lined. The tag interactions are pretty weird.
>>7969286>middle genkek, playing time fcuk, are we?>>7969287Here is a cheat sheet. It's probably going to give you overall better results if you work with these.
>>7969276Could be, Imma prepare my old AdamW settings and see how it goes>>7969284Nothing can be jeet-proof that's impossible
>>7969262
>>7969296Sadly true, even about western civilization
doesn't dora require more vram? i can't
>>7969299Yeah It does, about 35% more compared to your same exact normal settings.
ai-generated in negs is pretty wild
you ever wonder about why 100% of the people posting about how doras are great are posting examples using very simple characters with basic ass art styles
>>7969303no desu
>>7969303I didn't said it's great. Check >>7969278
>>7969291>give you overall better resultsBetter how so? Just less anatomy fuck-ups? I think my biggest issue is seeing messed up hands but I thought that was kind of the norm with AI.
>>7969311the further away from the training resolution of 1024x1024 you go the more likely something will get fucky
>>7969264>nai should've known. local can't do soft colors and thin lines
>>7969297Great gens dude, just what the thread needed, and to clear my eyes after all that shit-color pamming
>>7969314and is polluted with western artists indeed;)
I just got a warning for saying "good morning sir" are you kidding right
>they won't try animagine no matter what and will continue whining
>>7969318You forgot to do the needful
>>7969302Any xyzs on your side? Busy with loras to test it more extensively rn.
>>7969318A sir just flew over my good morning
>>7969325sorry they were /e/
>>7969323animagine is shit at anything that isn't simple pov stuff
>>7969328gatoboxo
Whats new in SD? Have we solved hands? Have we solved text? Have we solved consistent characters?
>>7969331wait for SD3 :^)
>>7969331Nope, nope and nope. Inpaint still required for all of that. Come back in 2 years.
>>7969331you're 1.5y late
>>7969333For which one of those 3? Also ETA?
>>7969336All 3 of them and we don't know yet
>>7969297trying butt stacking, somehow harder than on ef+hll?
>>7969336He's fucking with ya, SD3 may be better at prompt understanding but it still does fucked up eyes and hands
>>7969339>it still doesFuck off Titor
>>7969338I LOVE BIG BUTTS HOLY COW
>>7969342>have one favorite pic with the fattest nicest ass>artist made almost no other pics, none like thatSo over...
>>7969341Who tf is dat
>>7969313I'll have to mess with it more. I tried a little bit but it didn't seem any noticeably different than the normal anatomy weirdness I get.
>>7969344Controlnet depth can help you with that, if you want the pose. 100% recommended
>>7969346How come some files have a different meta structure, like this one? I do not even see the model name
>>7969348I guess. I'll maybe try baking him anyway and see how it does.
>>7969348But it also picks up the hairstyles, clothing, etc. And Openpose is meh on Pony, any other ways to get just the pose?
>>7969345That's exactly how a time traveler trying to hide would respond
>>7969347that guy is full of shit its just placebo, just try to stay between the min and max of the recommended size but the pixel count is irrelevant, you wont get magically better gen because you used 1216x832 instead of 1200x800
>>7969349? it's nai, you can check prompt here https://novelai.net/inspect
>>7969349All of the NAI gens have that
Is AutismSXDL the model that everyone is using now?
Is NAI dying today because of all the furries crowding the servers or is it just slow on my end?
>>7969346nice melty eyes ;)
How is there NO BOXMAN style LoRAWhat happened to you guys who hurt you
>>7969329kid you not, the one who is shit is you, not animagine
>>7969359Works for me as of now. It has these server issues almost daily though, so just wait a bit.
>>7969362>How is there NO BOXMAN style LoRAYou didn't bake it anon...
>>7969362the faces are ugly
>>7969338still didn't manage butt stackbonus https://files.catbox.moe/br8wmw.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/9e78br.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/ncftpz.png>>7969344I got into lora training to make more porn of a certain character by a certain artist (only had 1 picture)get to work :^)
>>7969330is it different? yes.it it better? i don't know man
>>7969358yes
>>7969368Who was it and by whom?>>7969369So the same as on this end.
>>7969279I get kinda better lighting and background but the picture itself is somehow worse, might be the artist I tried but im not really convinced, might be better for flat artstyle tho
>>7969364do a comparison with a difficult pose on animagine and pony and you'll see you get better anatomy with pony
>>7969374same seed, same prompt, autism
>>7969373I had the same with 3d.No 3d in negs actually made it less 3d and had way thinner lines but the images also looked kinda like ass
>>7969372>Who was it and by whom?inori by necrosmos (futa artist)made both loras and coomedTalking about that, after shishi juuroku I'll do the necrosmos lora once again, I don't think it needs much re-tagging or more dataset gathering since he's been relatively dead since
>>79693693D seems to give flatter shadingai-generated seems to give less shine, mostly prominent in hairThey are very subtle differences but it seems they could be worth using in negs depending on what kind of style you're going for
>>7969375you can't just copy paste the prompt, they use different prompt structure the point is to compare the knowledge of the models and how they respond to your promptfor example, animagine can't do reverse suspended congress
Another day goes by where I misspell skindentation as skindendation.
Try koikatsu in negs
>>7969369You can use S/R with negs or is this using something else?
>>7969383yes, of course you can
>>7969380oh yeah?
>>7969384hmhow do you separate if using commas? ;?
>>7969388put the text string in quotes
>>7969389good to know
>>7969382wtf mustard gas?!
Holy shit ai-generated + koikatsu in negs goes hard dude, now it does look very flat but kinda feels weird looking
>>7969387yeah well animagine cant do frieren getting pronebone
>>7969387wtf downloading animagine right nowbox??
>>7969391which one is which
>>7969395it's just a batch not an x/y, same prompt as the plot above though
>they havent used animagine as a refiner for ponyngmi
>>7969397using animagine as a refiner is cheating, you're still using pony as a base
I've been using animagine for a while and it absolutely destroys pony for 1girl stuff (as long as there's no complicated pose involved)Animagine has better clothing as well. Nice skin texture. Better faces. Less western look.BUTPony absolutely destroys animagine in literally everything that isn't just 1girl looking at viewer.Thanks for listening to my TED talk.
>koikatsu, ai-generated, 3d in positivesi am the sloppa man, fear my bloom, cower at my nonsense backgrounds, look at those pussy close-ups thouogh
>>7969398bad logic
>>7969400Sovl...
>>7969400bulb head chan...
>>7969401but it's trueobviously using animagine as a refiner is a valid strategy, but you're still leveraging pony's knowledge, and it's doing all the heavy liftingit's like tracing over an image and slightly changing the style and saying you drew that on your own
>>7969400so it was koikatsu fault all along that AOM was slop
>>7969406yes
>>7969406Chikarin did nothing wrong
>>7969405this is like saying that digital coloring is cheating because you're using the magic wand tool instead of doing it yourself, just total nonsense. models are tools, combining two tools isn't cheating, retard, it's art
>>7969369It's pretty hard to judge.Like I said, I think no neg is the best but it also kinda makes them crappy? Weird.I'll try with a style next.https://files.catbox.moe/tndpxd.png
>>7969411i've had nice results with 3d in negs are low weight like 0.4-0.6
>>7969410nta but he probably meant cheating just for judging animagine quality not for image gen purpose
>>7969413Yeah I use 3d only right now. You can see it's the mildest here.I'll try with that weight.
>>7969413>>7969415Actually, maybe nothing with only monochrome or greyscale might be the best here to counteract that no neg greyness.
You guys are too bored, what happened to just prompting anime girls?
>>7969414this anon gets ityou can't claim animagine is good when you're using pony to make it good
>>7969397At what %?
>>7969418okay but if you actually read the quote chain you'd see he didn't say that
>>7969420no but it's implied by other's itt
>>7969417You gotta test your stuff to better gen the potential anime girls you'll never actually gen
>>7969417arguing is more fun
the "animagine as refiner for pony" faggot revealed himself to be the groidspammer 2 threads ago.
>>7969425Does your meltie ever stop?
>>7969421okay retard
>>7969425not surprising
> animagine as refiner for ponyTried that thing recently by the way. Not sure how good it is, but refiner causes model switching when used. And waiting for models to switch each time when generating isn't fun. Got tired of waiting to see if it was good after just a few gens. Maybe it's better with high VRAM gpus, not sure.
>>7969419i personally keep animagine doing 60% of the steps
>>7969411So yeah less difference with a proper style but imho here no negs and 3d still have slightly better shapes and colors. The 3d, ai generated also has an errant hair tie.https://files.catbox.moe/dritug.png
>>7969434you can turn on setting to have it cache models in ram or vram
>>7969425Is this true?
>>7969425makes sense
>>7969432>>7969425https://archiveofsins.com/h/thread/7964328/#7965546
>>7969439>>7969440see >>7969441
>>7969437My PC is only 16GB RAM, and I refuse to upgrade it before I upgrade my CPU. And CPU doesn't need the upgrade yet, because all games are running well enough. In a few years maybe.
>>7969394no box for userscriptless retards>>7969425yes i am the groidspammer kek
>>7969441unsurprising.
>>7969448Bruh the script ain't working for me, the prompts don't show, what's the style?
fucking kek someone's mindbroken by black people
>>7969436I really do like no neg but it's just too grey and lowquality for me.The weighted 3d does merit more testing. Later.
>>7969441It's over for this thread, isn't it? Between the tranny groidspammer and tranny janny who protects him, there's no purpose left in posting here
>>7969452no catbox for extensionless retards either
>>7969458Yes. Leave.
Why aren't you spamming nigger dicks like usual, then?
This is her favorite part.
>>7969458Just shitpost and let them do it for free.
kek that's the spiritspend the next 6 hours spamming like you were born for it, little slave
>>7969471Kek
>>7969471please don't roleplay
>>7969368I change my mind he actually made a lot of nice ASSES
that's a big turd
could i just slap a 3090 and a new powersupply in my pc or will my old ass i7-4790 and the shitty, equally old oem motherboard hamper my dreams of sub-minute gens?
>>7969482The rest doesn't really matter afaik.
>>7969482you'd probably need a new mobo to get the gpu to run
>>7969459???Meds.
>Guy that said he'd upload 25 loras, still hasn't uploaded anythingnothing ever happens
>>7969488you misgenderered her
>>7969488all here but i'm still xyzing kekthese styles are a bitch to eliminatehttps://files.catbox.moe/u39fq2.png
>>7969448nice elf sex
>>7969482It should work, but you may encounter the CPU bottlenecks, lolAlso 3090s are heavy, your mobo may break if there's no supports
>>7969473>roleplay bad even doe it pisses the groidspammer off
>>7969459nta but I feel like such a dumbass, I thought that the script only worked on catbox links
>>7969486new cpu to go with it or are they backwards compatible that far?
>>7969496some cpus and mobos are backwards/forwards compatible but if your stuff is old you're better off just upgrading everything
>>7969501I like her eyesboxu? pleasu?
>stopped spammingWhy?
>>7969494Not working for me at all, can you look up what's that faggot's style for me?
>>7969508Anon
>>7969514nice timing kek
>>7969523the fuck is wrong with this style's faces man
Re-posting for freedom from pony: Jordach let me play on the cascade prototype, so I made some /hdg/ images.txt2img only, no negs.https://pixhost.to/gallery/zv70r>by bluethebone>by cutesexyrobutts>by ishikei >by jtveemo >by mdf_anIf you wanna help fund the finetune bake:https://donate.spectrometer.art/It's looking pretty promising to me, lads
>>7969441Depressing>>7969455Some "people" are just insufferable like that
>>7969529buy an ad
>>7969512Thanks
>>7969533I unironically will buy an ad for them, I want cascade so bad it hurts
>>7969512weird, I got the script working but not PNG Info with those pictures while it works with others. Is it because I'm using forge?
if you ever stop groidspamming for any reason, you admit that you denounce the talmud and you support Total Nigger Death
>>7969538Do it, you fucking knot lover.
I think I accidentally set her on fire
>>7969533Fuck off, this is our one shot at a good model, let him advertise all he wants
Still don't know if I can post this here but https://files.catbox.moe/ef5ywj.pngCunnilingus rebake okay
how's hdg going to use cascade when everyone here is still filtered by comfy?
>>7969488respect the baker
>>7969555they won'tthey'll wait for another half-assed a1111 fork that steals comfy code so that they don't get filtered by nodes kek
>>7969547she's turning into a demon, run
>>7969557sounds based to me desu
>>7969555They already are making a gradio interface that negates the spaghetti, I used it for the prototype gens and it's much like a1111/forge in UI
>>7968749have you shared the ino lora and do you plan to make a sakura genin lora as well? Looks great
>>7969559yeah being 89 iq a1111 user is based
>>7969529looks pretty good desu. I'll donate when I get paid friday
>>7969563yup
I bet the dude who's the groidspammer and uses shitty UI ALSO hates Cascade and it's progress
>>7969544Well, there you have it
>>7969563That's the beauty of the cascade fine-tune... Us 89iqers can use it, but the node wranglers will be able to continue noding too. Might even unite us. Only person this will suck for is you, consolewar-kun... My deepest condolences
>>7969570beat me to itisn't the reduced cooldown 45 seconds?matches up on both the last posts
>>7969569Catbox?
>>7969573It's pretty fucking clear that the groidspammer is the one stirring up shitty console wars between NAIfags, Comfyfags and A1111/Forgefags
>>7969550In my objective opinion, you can. Especially since you're actually contributing
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>>7969262Sir where do I find that krekkov LoCon?
>>79695792
>>7969576https://files.catbox.moe/asazex.pngbut they're new loras i haven't posted yet, old ones are here https://archiveofsins.com/h/thread/7952948/#7955221>>7969578Yeah but janny will probably see semi 3d and ree
>>7969577It is. Wonder how long til mods just rangeban his entire area desu
>>7969562Here's the Ino one,haven't done Sakura but I do have a dataset,just unorganized https://litter.catbox.moe/gdumju.safetensors
>>7969488you need to spend at least two to three weeks retraining the same lora with no visual improvements before you can upload it. everyone knows that
>>7969589The true key is to do 1 downgrade and several sideways
groidspammer really mindbroke this place kek
>>7969577>le only one single anon causes all the woes of /hdg/surely
>>7969585He will never be rangebanned, the mods love him.
STFU SAMEFAGAlso, would people mind catboxes for the loras? It's more convenient but changes names. I'll upload on the other site if not.
>>7969595I'd call this a successNow this is a little bit funnier place
>>7969598as long as you clearly label them on here, no issues with catbox
>>7969529fuck now I'm hyped for cascade >60 more days
>>7969603well i should upload them within the houri'll just dump it finally because i already found two more things to bake and will never stop kek
>>7969595actually not him, but jannies
>>7969598why not mega?
>>7969609longer.
Jannies want this place to die
>>7969580https://files.catbox.moe/gwk7ns.safetensors
>>7969611i loathe that site and also don't want to make accounts and keep trails with this shit lol
>>7969549wdxl is in the training
>>7969598you could just zip them beforehand
>>7969618Furry diffusion discord > tuning projects > resonance cascade thread https://discord.com/invite/furrydiffusionIirc they're working on more FAQ's/documentation to more concisely answer stuff. They respond quickly/openly on the discord though
>>7969624sir he said good model...
>>7969529I start to get why they don't want to release unfinished checkpointswe'd end up with retards mixing the final run with a prototype because "it makes that one artist a little better" (schizophrenia)I don't like not being able to play with the proto myself, but I wouldn't want to use cumrag and curbing shitmixes early is a good thing
Went to bake fukuro ko, and now I'm noticing the base Pony prompt is basically as good as the LoRA. Oh well.>>7969598Catbox is limited to 200 MB, and some LoRAs tend to go over that. It's it's under this, yeah, go nuts. Most LoRAs in OP are catboxes.
>>7969632>he calls copescade a good modelsir..
>>7969639>doubting before the model enters the ovensir...
>>7969638yeah mine used to be over 200mb hence the other site but they're 100mb now
remember when WD tried training 5 different models and still couldnt even surpass the base nai leak? pathetic
why did the spam slow down?
>>7969647janny got angysomeone's just reposting some of the deleted images
>>7969645WD will save us... (Said 16 months ago.)
>>7969615Many thanks good sir
>>7969649I can't believe what I'm saying, but... For first time in my life, I say: Based janny
>getting puffy donut assholes>put anal hair in the negatives>assholes get considerably smallerwhat the hell
>>7969529could you try genning my wife? my wife being hotaru shidare
>>7969512Refute >>7969441, you tranny faggot
>>7969656Now post her servicing a bbc chad~
>footsie lora doesn't helpSad!
>>7969633Im pretty sure if you ask on discord jordach would give you a gradio link to try it yourself. It uses a custom UI over comfy so no spaghetti knowledge needed for testing. It's limited at the moment because hurrdurr prototype, but I was really impressed when I gave it a shot, even the pruned dataset recognized lots of characters and artists. He also gave me a list of anime-side tags used in training, wanted to siphon artists and chars out of it to show here but it's fucking huge lmao
>just turn pag down to 2/0.5>keeps most of the benefits with less weirdnessnice. i was genning a fantasy castle in the background and it turned from total schizo to a reasonable looking building
Anyone got any bikupan style LoRA?
>>7969669I know about that, I just prefer to do it locallyI got a new gpu like 2 months ago and I'm still cooming to pony so it's not that pressing
>misspelled smug as slugkilling myself right now
>>7969639cascade looks pretty good from the prototype to me, I'm donating.
>>7969529I can fucking swear, I have seen this exact picture before. Don't remember if it's ishikei, but I've seen this exact composition and pose before.
about time you killed yourself you groidspamming faggot
>>7969677RIP slug-chan
>>7969663
spam faster
>>7968897>>7968917requesting Yourichi being sexy, pervy and in the process or already filled with baby batter
>>7969677post results
>>7969642>hurr prototype durrno one cares, his approach is totally retarded, the finetune will collapse due to the size and atrocious approaches to dataset creation, you'll get another kohakuxl tier model but insanely fried this time>>7969678I'm watching
>>7969680I just stole random tags from images on danbooru and added "by ishikei", so the base image on danbooru it's describing might be similar. It was pure txt2img though, no controlnet or img2img or anythingThere were a few times where it genned scarily close to the images I described in tags, very strong learning potential with cascade. Schizo prompts actually do what you're asking for the most part. It's pretty neat, I really can't wait to try a fully baked version
>>7969681
israel got rangebanned from posting images herewhether that's connected to the groidspam, idk
>>7969674finallyafter a futa digression
>>7969700hmmmmmm I wonder why, such mystery
>>7969697>his approach is totally retardedProof?!
>>7969662What is there to refute?
Aaahttps://files.catbox.moe/531avu.png
>>7969658AI is retarded and cant fully separate multi word tokens so it sees the word anal in negs and tries to remove everything involving anal
>>7969707That is literally worse than ces JFC
>>7969710NAI has the funniest body horrors some times.
>>7969697I sent it to paypal. your turn
>>7969707how
>>7969713I didn't prompt for that, I can't fucking unsee it now, fuck that. Just spread pussy. I guess it's something to do with this artists mix.
FORGE CAN YOU PLEASE STOP DOING THE FUCKING VRAM BUG I WANT TO GEN
>>7969705No advanced tagging.No normalization.No vLLM captioning.No regularization.No scoring.60% of it is the furrypoison.Anything else I missed?
>>7969718It's over...
>>7969718why even bother if you do this
>>7969718We'll see about that, you nigger horsecock-loving faggot
>>7969724Holy based.
>>7969708Can you fix the downs face?
why doesn't the cascade shill post more pictures?
>>7969732Takes some minutes since a lot of people is prompting and using the dude's 3090 to gen right now
>>7969734???furry faggot didn't share the model prototype after all?
>>7969736Epoch 5 isn't baked yet, he said he Will yeet the models when this last epochs finishes cooking
>>7969736the proto was explicitly never going to be shared to avoid inbred shitmixes with the final model or even worse using those as base models for finetunesbut there was some begging so>Thinking about making EpsilonE5.safetensors a patreon tier reward under a restrictive (non commercial, non modification) license.>Note that the non-modification part of that license wouldn’t apply to things like LoRA training, but to merging or using it as the base of your own fine tune.>The final model will not have those restrictions.and for schizos>Yeah to fill that in more. Training is being run by a US based LLC that is registered as a 501(c)(3) nonprofit. We fully intend to post monthly spending reports to the public to show just how donations are being used.>Additionally if those funds are misused, the IRS will have my ass as the principal enrolled agent>Not a fan of going to prison over committing tax fraud while cooking an furry porn model.
That locon is great, thanks again anon
>>7969740So how will you defend it against a pajeet modifying it anyway? It's not like 4chan cares about licenses
Characters:Amane Misa (Death Note) - https://files.catbox.moe/qheucd.safetensorsKaguya (Kuroinu) - https://files.catbox.moe/iaq0wb.safetensorsL (Death Note) - https://files.catbox.moe/rwxa5p.safetensorsLiru (Wolf Girl With You) - https://files.catbox.moe/134nne.safetensorsN (Pokemon) - https://files.catbox.moe/ecb4ol.safetensorsNani Pelekai (Lilo & Stitch) - https://files.catbox.moe/zgw9aj.safetensorsOlga Discordia (Kuroinu) - https://files.catbox.moe/qpu281.safetensorsPanty Anarchy (Panty & Stocking with Garterbelt) - https://files.catbox.moe/iyebno.safetensorsStocking Anarchy (Panty & Stocking with Garterbelt) - https://files.catbox.moe/p4t7ci.safetensorsTezuka Rin (Katawa Shoujo) - https://files.catbox.moe/afyc5p.safetensorsZone-Tan (ZONE) - https://files.catbox.moe/3h3sdz.safetensorsArtists:AccelArt - https://files.catbox.moe/wa5ggb.safetensorsCrimsonComics - https://files.catbox.moe/z6c2e1.safetensorsDerpixon - https://files.catbox.moe/g90any.safetensorsDross - https://files.catbox.moe/h4oo8e.safetensorsKinkymation - https://files.catbox.moe/ywqdqf.safetensorsLeebongchun - https://files.catbox.moe/u7kat0.safetensorsMandio - https://files.catbox.moe/0ajnur.safetensorsNewguy1091 - https://files.catbox.moe/m6jw8i.safetensorsNonamoth - https://files.catbox.moe/ff46pf.safetensorsPuge - https://files.catbox.moe/80r4k2.safetensorsRiffraff - https://files.catbox.moe/1nsga6.safetensorsRizdraws - https://files.catbox.moe/c0l3qw.safetensorsSomka108 - https://files.catbox.moe/tc1wgs.safetensorsSqueezable - https://files.catbox.moe/z1bm5h.safetensorsSuoiresnu - https://files.catbox.moe/xudhlu.safetensorsTakanoyuki - https://files.catbox.moe/qqmxzt.safetensorsVivivoovoo - https://files.catbox.moe/dizctm.safetensorsWetwasabi - https://files.catbox.moe/37ow4n.safetensorsConcepts:Cunnilingus Gesture - https://files.catbox.moe/pk6hl3.safetensors
>>7969747nani?!
>Cascade will fail>Nai4 will fail>Nai3 will get axed>There won't be a sd3 finetuneThis time next year, all we'll have is ponyv8 with less artists and more gpo
>>7969747yoinkty
>>7969745that's what the original plan of not sharing the proto was fornow you can just call them a retard for mixing/training on a prototype model, it's not like there are a lot of cascade models out there
>>7969747ultra based and I ultra don't know any of these artists
>>7969024Anywhere I can read up more news on this? Discord links, writeups, whatever? All I remember finding was a donation link and random scattered discord screenshots in the previous thread.
>>7969753What about Kevbot and generic 2000s retro? That's next to bake.
why did you choose such gross artists though bro like wtf
Will we live to see generative AI that will be generating images with human-like vision, intention and creativity? Genning images today is fun, but creating something like pic related from just a prompt today is impossible.Wouldn't it be nice if one could prompt: "Generate wii meta super mario bros princess peach hentai illustration." and get picrelated as a result.
>>7969747Ultra basado release man, you're might>>7969754MF JUST READ we've been talking about it on this thread several times now, just lurk you lazy fuck
>>7969747>western artistsUm...I feel a meltdown coming on, I'm literally shaking right now. Thanks anon.
>>7969760yessee jim keller interview by linus cuck tips
>>7969759I blame Cartoon Network.>>7969760Doesn't DALLE already have some of the capacities? I bet size and proper non-tag captioning are the biggest hurdles here.>>7969762/h/bros... why did I do it?There really aren't that many interesting mainstream jap artists desu.
>>7969740>the proto was explicitly never going to be shared to avoid inbred shitmixes with the final model or even worse using those as base models for finetuneswho cares about shitmixes if they're actually shit, retard? sounds incredibly sketchy>a patreon tier rewardi see>Additionally if those funds are misused, the IRS will have my ass as the principal enrolled agentwhat a joke, how can he misuse this, not counting the blatant disappearing? did he sign up for "training the best anime hentai model" lmfao?so the sole reason you don't actually post more because you can't cherrypick kek
I've always been #teampony :)
>>7969760Just inpaint, lazy dumbass.You want everything served on a silver platter too?
>>7969765only one i can stomach is vivivoovoo the rest are unironically /aco/ or just straight up bad art
>>7969712doko?
>>7969772The heart wants what it wants :p
>>7969765Yes, you can just throw some natural language prompts at Dalle and it will produce something cool most of the time. Fun to play around with until all gens start looking the same to you. Too bad it's so cucked.
>>7969773Can't they just use the free compute time that aws throws at startups to train it?
>>7969760honestly i dont get wtf this image tries to convey
>>7969767>who cares about shitmixes if they're actually shit, retard?Are you new here? Before SDXL this place was rampant with people coming here to shill their random NAI shitmix. Every retard was on a different shitmix that was more fried than the last. Nobody who lived that wants to go back to that time.>so the sole reason you don't actually post more because you can't cherrypick kekI don't use the proto, I have enough backlog to make on XL to last me for a while.
>>7969774ambatunat.....
>>7969785I want to go back because I hate ponies and furries
>>7969747saved, thanks.
I just tell everyone I'm using autism instead of pony so I don't get called a furry.
>>7969785>Before SDXL this place was rampant with people coming here to shill their random NAI shitmix.can you fucking read? who cares about shitmixes if they're actually shit?
>>7969791I have bad news for you, autism IS pony.
>>7969795Please don't misappropriate my autism. Autism is autism.
>>7969797an actual autistic humor
REAL?
>>7969765>There really aren't that many interesting mainstream jap artists desu.Modern moe anime is kinda hard to overly stylize.
>>7969792>reading comprehensionpeople will gladly eat shit to seem hip and up to date with the techthe millions of "I use visajeetMixv666 and hands aren't great" posts back in the day, combined with "the anylora model page says it's much better to train loras" tards who eat up anything make discussing the tech much worse
>>7969803>Let me take your retarded rating system and replace it with my own
>>7969806This garbage was a disaster>I made this model to ensure my future LoRA training is compatible with newer models, plus to get a model with a style neutral enough to get accurate styles with any style LoRA. Training on this model is much more effective compared to NAI, so at the end you might want to adjust the weight or offset (I suspect that's because NAI is now much diluted in newer models). I usually find good results at 0.65 weigth that I later offset to 1 (very easy to do with ComfyUI).>This is good for inference (again, especially with styles) even if I made it mainly for training. It ended up being super good for generating pics and it's now my go-to anime model. It also eats very little vram.
>>7969814:(Do you just fap to the same image?
>>7969815unironically yes.
>>7969818based
>>7969818half based
>>7969812this is the guy now in charge of sd3 btw. every day that passes is another day it gets even more slopped
>>7969818unbased
>>7969824Wait really? lmfao
>>7969818cringe
Can't wait for Cascade desu, if pony is so fucking flawled in so many ways and I'm still able to do things I never imagined before, then a proper model would just probably rip off my dick entirely
Animagine feels like an improved anythingv3, it's comfyI honestly hope that they will keep cooking. I'll trade lack of degen fetishes for nicer styles (that does matter even with loras)
>>7969829>a proper model Like NAI? :)
>>7969831Bro your anatomy?
>>7969806>people will gladly eat shit to seem hip and up to date with the techthat's exactly how pony adoption went and that's exactly what the cascade furfag tries to repeat keki've heard they call it 'going viral'if his goal is to train a good model, he wouldn't bother with this shit, he just wants attention and money through patreon
>>79698341girl standing, looking at viewer, cowboy shot, contrapposto
>>7969833Yeah I am ok without corpo daddy telling me artist tags are morally wrong.
>>7969837bro, you can't kill his vibe like that
>>7969833In the end NAI would just fail terribly if it doesn't add more pics to increase concept understanding, I mean it's pretty good yes but it feels very limited and specially since no LoRAs and controlnet, and no, ip-adapter vibe crap is garbage
>>7969805Yeah. And they don't post outside Pixiv usually, so I can't see them.Like I said, retro big eyes jap lora coming soon.
>>7969837Great, then subscribe today and use artist tags all you want without ponyfucker telling you it's morally wrong :)
>>7969765Dalle isn't very prompt responsive compared to SD. At least in my experience it can create impressive pictures handing complex themes and concepts. For example person taking a photo of something, smartphone screen visible and displaying the picture. Resulting gen would fill smartphone screen with whatever picture is being taken of. But at the same time, when your prompt is complex in itself and requires a lot of specific things to be done at the same time - things stop working so well.When dalle first released I wanted to use the gens as a base to img2img and polish in SD. In the end it didn't work out at all. It's very hard to describe, but outputs were unusable.
>>7969835>Every trainer is either a moralfag or in it for the moneySad world we live in
>>7969824>>7969827>it's real
>>7969784> Never played Mario games > Posts on 4chanO tempora, o mores.
>>7969827yes. after the core model was finished the research team behind it left. lykon is now responsible for finetuning it which is why it's already starting to look like his deep friend dreamshaper mixes. they operate in a small discord of about 50-100 people hand-picked by SAI from the 'top trainers' of civitai like LEOSAM (helped develop the overfitted korean face mixes). i wish this was only a schizo theory but it's not.
>>7969845Lmao yeah, Lykon got hired few months ago and was one of the first who posted sd3 outputs
Caformer my beloved
>>7969848Man more I learn about SAI more I am amazed they survived as long as they did.
>>7969846Actually played a lot, but that image still makes no sense. No offense
>>7969847>>7969848it's over
Speaking of, I wonder how much better or worse genned captions would work over scraped.Danbooru doesn't have great captioning.
>>7969850contextis it the caformer booru tagger?
>>7969847>>7969848>>7969855it never even fucking began
>>7969854nvm I'm a dumbass
>>7969844this is one of the cases where the guy's probably not for the money but rather for the fame of 'taking down the horsecock', when he should be aiming for NAI, fucking kekbutthurt wannabe as-is
>>7969856For proper finetuning/training I mean>>7969857Yesss
>>7969747Very based,thanks for these.
>>7969850very good tagger for what we have
>>7969842Didn't Furry Nai prune artists tho?
Got a question,tagging a dataset and wanted to ask if I should keep tags like "1girl,solo" or get rid of them.
>>7969864Yeah. But I also have to thank min tag fraction because it's a great tool.>>7969865I WILL NEVER BE A WOMAN>>7969869Keep, of course.
Why the fuck is ai-generated neg so strong on animagine
https://files.catbox.moe/lij8r8.png
>>7969861he is aiming to take down NAI, it's just that he's a furry so people there don't care about NAI
>>7969869Remove solo keep 1girl but also shuffle captions
>>7969873OUUUHHH?????
>>7969872cause it was trained on ai-generated pics anon
>>7969876nooo don't doo it anon
I have done it... the sovl lora...
>>7969881>anus censoredInto the trash it goes.
>>7969879Solo is redundant and useless. People don’t want to waste two extra tokens in their character chunk but keeping 1girl is useful when people want to regional prompt
>>7969885I mean the shuffling>>7969882Can't get True Hentai™ without some pixelslol
>>7969878yeah I get that but that but it loses half of its style if ai neg it even at 0.5 and becomes way too flatfeels like aimagine was heavily trained on aomslopLike on NAI ai-generated tag works alright but nothing nearly that strong
>>7969829add "Cellulite" to prompt
>>7969890pointless the post was rng and it's inpainted a bit
>>7969892hey mom i think the cottage cheese went bad
>>7969887Caption shuffling is useful for character loras. You don’t want to overfit the model into “1girl, charactername”
>>7969892I am vomit
Sorry, now we're talking.>>7969898Nah, last time I side-by-sided it was much better to have no shuffling.
>>7969888They probably aimed for that "perfect" default look in the first place, hence it's so strong. NAI didn't and it kinda backfired when it first released I guess.
>>7969902https://files.catbox.moe/39xz6q.png
>>7969876Thanks
>>7969901How are you judging “better” exactly? The aesthetic?
Sadly AI smooths out jank even with lowres pics, need to 15% JPG it to keep it real
>>7969659Sorry anon I was away from the computer. From my brief tests it seems to know the character, but Jordach just said we're 4 hours away from e5 so if you wanna wait for that I'll post updated prototype tests of her + random artist styles I find
>>7969915It workingI must've tested on Rin so the arms provide easy point of comparisonI'm not sure whether I uploaded the xyzs here or not
>>7969904I guess.
>>7969747based baker, time make another Rin in a bin gen soonAlso prompting a kneeling on one leg pose is harder than I thought
>>7969901Ohh really, so if you tags are A-Z sorted and you don't shuffle, what happens if you run inference with them sorted Z-A? Do you keep the same accuracy because I sure think now.
>>7969915>>7969922>>7969931Oh sorry actually, I misremembered. It was actually a few % difference at best. https://archiveofsins.com/data/h/image/1711/48/1711488294346974.jpgProbably better to shuffle if your tags are crap or you added some out of order then.
>>7969931every tagger i know of sorts by confidence, not alpha, for like 2 fuckin years now
>>7969928This looks way too weird, kek. Are you using quality and aesthetic tags?
>>7969934Oh and keep in mind this was on my old setup, not new. Doubt it'd be much difference though.
>>7969936And what if you extract the tags from the booru?
>>7969941Yes, from their Asuka example.The difference is not as drastic with artist tags though.
>>7969929>gave her the perfect expression with no promptinglolhttps://files.catbox.moe/2h0m6g.png
>>7969948why the fuck would you do that? it's even worse than autotaggers
>>7969931>>7969934Looks good to me.https://files.catbox.moe/6i8o5l.png
>>7969773pp doesn't auto update the meter I guess, don't ask me. like I said - your turn
>>7969950>Yes, from their Asuka example.It doesn't use "very displeasing", and has "normal quality" in negs, maybe it's the reason?
>>7969958>cascade>no vllm, no autotagger>depends on booru dataset tagsAsk them
>picrelWhy do they do this?Has any kind Anon got a copy of this LoRA they can box for me?https://civitai.com/models/303526/splatoon-inkling-sdxl
>>7969968OH FUCK NO
>>7969971Inklings work native on tism or is this something specific?https://files.catbox.moe/0xfqbs.png
>>7969780Nta but I asked on the dicksword and apparently it was too costly based on the amount of compute+storage it would require (not direct quote)
>>7969952kekCan't be comfortable the way she sits, so no wonder she looks like that
>>7969974I'm not familiar with tism, but I would like to know more. Currently using AnythingXL
>>7969979Autism, anone. A lot stuff works natively on that
>>7969966Didn't change muchhttps://files.catbox.moe/uwdj0m.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/a1d6fq.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/l2rvks.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/8eag7x.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/ejcuqk.jpgOnly a strong artist tag kinda helps.So they probably did feed it plenty of ai
>>7969985anon put seed and -1 in the x/y plot box...
>>7968522Dearest /hdg/You like concepts right? I'm playing about with masked loss, and would like to gather more concepts to see how much it accelerates training. Overhang trained in about 160 seconds, 4 epochs across 40 images, batch 2.To me, this is a big deal, but it takes a hot minute to prep the data. If you have concept folders, reply and I'll check them out.Or if you find a concept training folder. Synthetic data is totally fine, overhang was trained on 100% nai3 gens, purely AI data.
>>7969986?
>>7969989you made 5 different images for no reason
>>7969990BEST POSTER
>>7969991they have different prompts to test if it's not something causing this weird style or if the quality tag prompt order matters
>>796999520 iq poster i guess my bad
>>7969990sexo
>>7969988Text was inpainted?
>>7969996Kek
>>7969988I can give you the cunnilingus gesturejpgs to fit but it was unoptimized upscales anywayhttps://gofile.io/d/9FxF2Z
>>7969982Makes sense, I am a dummy!The reason why I'm after that particular LoRA is so that I can use it with other checkpoints and test what results I get. I'm fairly new to diffusion in general, so I don't want to post anything until it can match the quality of some of the pictures other Anons have posted.
>>7969993Can we have her giving a reluctant blowjob?
>>7969996BruhI didn't intend it to be one xyz, I was testing different prompts in processdo you have ocd or something
>>7970005MOAAAAAAR
>>7970016
>>7968897did i just enter gooner land?
>>7969949based
>7 different region prompt>5 min generation time>So much vram used that my screen starts to flickerForge couple my beloved
>>7969949catbox?
>>7970056Wow this is so good
>>7970042for nai try some combination of>age difference>shota>hetero>size difference>couple
The downside pony+animagine has is that the style may not really be consistent across the multiple gens>it makes super long dicks with portrait orientation
>>7970092huh?
>>7970099I dislike that artstyle but whatever.
gyatt
>>7970099where sepia?
he could be any one of us
>>7970099the downside of pony+animagine is that it's a retarded meme ideaJust use the lineart lora and cd tuner if you don't like the pony/autism basestyle
i'm doing iti'm getting local set upi will burn my hand-me-down 2070 super to death
>>7970099long dick is long
>>7970115this, loras can do EVERYTHING
>>7970117You aren't allowed to post here with a gen folder under 3gb
>>7969988>masked lossHow should the dataset look like when training like this?
>>7970124my gen folder is gigantic but i'm a naigger. i want to get local up and running and learn the skills i need as a stoploss in case v3 is ever compromised
>>7970126https://www.mediafire.com/file/i4rezzxpiu9n1dj/overhang_data.7z/file
happy birthday laimu
>>7969988is this the one on civit? I'd like to try these training parameters if I can. good for concepts/clothing?
I did itI found the perfect scoring tag and negatives tags.
Cascade e4 90k gens, wagashi (dagashiya)A feature of this finetune is that "huge breasts" is really really HUGE breasts. pic relThis one came out fried and I think I messed up some settings hol up
>>7970102There are dozens more to combine https://civitai.com/posts/2273977>>7970115kek
>>7970133none for both?
>>7970134these are not huge, they are gigantic
>>7970134why do you keep shitposting with this slopare you really that fucking dumb that you can't take a hint?
BetterBut now it kinda looks ponified WHAT NO, GO BACK
>>7970130Should I be tagging things that aren't in the mask? Kinda hard to tell from your images, I think the answer is no.
>>7970141gotta get the free cash
Lazy character training is fun.
>>7970137not really
Does anyone here use Claude AI or Novel AI to write erotic stories?
Eyes still a mess but I like where this is goingTag here is "big breasts" so gonna use that instead, "huge breasts" are almost gigantic lol
>>7970132yeah it's the civit one.I'm still early in testing, don't use my general config. All that matters is the toml conditioning dir and the masked loss flag, the rest train as usual.I'd suggest closely watching the earlier epochs, since it can learn insanely quick and begin to unlearn as training progresses. As I said, overhang learned in like 2m30.After this I manually block edited it, using hako-mikan's block addon to visualise effective blocks, then cut unused blocks. Scaled a few up to make the lora work nicely at 1.0, 2.0, etc.End result got tested around and published.>>7970144From my experience, you should avoid stuff outside of the masked region. I'm still early in testing, can't say anything with authority. What I did test though was picrelated. I intentionally picked a load of images with two girls with totally different appearances and masked one off. I then tagged with stupid low information, all tags files contained only: "xqqqqt 1girl", that's it.I let it run, it generated, consistently, the micchans you've been seeing in the civit preview and here. This told me that the masking will isolate learning to only the masked area, or at least strongly bias it.I also manually added this change, ymmv:https://github.com/kohya-ss/sd-scripts/discussions/294#discussioncomment-9194555Which inversely scales loss by masked area. Dunno if this helps, you tell me.
>skilled trainer and dev comes to discuss his progress of a hentai finetune training, is open to suggestions and responds to criticism with a friendly attitude>posts passable pics as examples of progress, they are better than a lot of the shit posted here>FUCK OFF SHILL YOU SUCK YOUR PICS ARE TRASHWhy is this general so fucking shit
>>7970160I've noticed its like the same guy who just spergs at stuff he doesn't like I ignore him
>>7970160>skilled trainer and dev
>>7970160When did astralite visit? must have missed it, damn
>>7970160Hey bro, I think you're a cool guy and hope your project is successful. Honestly gonna donate some money, not being sarcastic.
>>7970160It's literally one dude man, you ignore it and that's all. I bet that If the model ends up being a complete success he will still swap to it no matter what.
>>7970130How you did this masks, some extension?I see additional folder in config there, should it be added to easy-scripts somehow, when you prepared the masks?
the discord circlejerk is here, the battle is lost
>skilled trainer and dev >has never baked anything successful rorumaoing
>>7970156cool, thanks for the insight, would the faster training mean I should lower my steps/epochs? any preferred lr or scheduler?>>7970169this was gonna be my next question, I've been using easy scripts will that work with masked loss
>skilled trainer and dev>only bakes were destitute failures>begs for moneyfits
>>7970153I use NAI for textgen, but not to a crazy extent some others do. Don't really want to deal with proxies and jailbreaks for claude, and while it's apparently better for chatbots, I have no clue how it handles longer stories. If you have a specific question, you should probably ask /aids/ on /vg/, or look at the local/chatbot threads on /g/ if you have the guts to sift through the garbage. Textgen threads are arguably plagued by even more schizos than image gen threads.
This thing is da bombAnd nope, not reading trolls, I invite you to use the "Hide post" button then
>>7970182I invite you to go back to r*ddit/discord.
I've tried baking Lora before but ran into some kind of software problem on my PC, even though it's high spec. Can any1 link to a guide for Making a PonyV6 Lora? Or tell me where I could request one? Thanks.
>>7970169I don't think easy-scripts supports passing these params. Take it up with the repo author I guess, in theory ultra easy to add but I'm not him.This was executed manually in a sd-scripts repo pull, adapted for purpose with many filthy powershell scripts. You're on your own getting this running locally.The masks were manually edited, I wish there was a nice tool for it. Steps:Copy images to another folder, mass convert to PNG (for sanity, of course), open all images in your preferred editor, add a layer and paint white blobs over areas to learn, fill original layer with black, (optionally) flatten, save, close doc and continue until queue is empty.Theoretically you could use image segmentation and similar to go turbo fast, but this was me still proof-of-concepting, I didn't know if it would work yet so I did it all manually.>>7970174I use ScheduleFreeAdam or something, so I don't set steps/scheduler in advance. I just set LR to a slightly bumped up AdamW rate (4e-4) and run it until it's looking like something. ScheduleFree is super experimental, wouldn't recommend it, use constant if you wanna go that route. Otherwise I really have no idea, you'll have to figure that out yourself. Since learning is faster, train it as you normally would and observe which epoch starts to unlearn, then set that as your overall step/epoch limit and run again?
>>7970192But what problem?I prefer easyscripts, it has instructions for install.
>>7970196I need more spoonfeeding to bake a lora. Spent 3 days on it already and had to stop. Very frustrating and lots of bullshit kept needing fixed. I just want to find a straightforward tutorial for a complete beginner. Or I'd like to know where the place would be to request som1 to make for me.
>>7970210I don't think there are any GOOD tutorials, desu. Someone should bake it for you here if you caption it.
>>7970008
>>7970210There are no good tutorials because Lora training is pretty much dependent on you figuring out what works for you. You can throw the dataset up and someone in this thread may do it for you.
>Groidspamming starts again when I started to postUmm... Guys... Is it because of me :(Why so much hate wtf
>>7970131 icing on the cake
>>7970221creepy shit man
>>7970221Thank you anon, can we get a finish on her face?
>>7970194>This was executed manually in a sd-scripts repo pullSo what is correct params when starting training it with raw command? I mean not hypermarams, but params that required to start with masks at least. IIRC sd-scripts itself is not using any yaml files containing dataset structures inside it?>Theoretically you could use image segmentation and similar to go turbo fast, but this was me still proof-of-concepting, I didn't know if it would work yet so I did it all manually.Thats what I'm thinking about, might be useful to segment backgrounds and make depth masks with controlnet for characters or something like that
>>7970238 --dataset_config="dataset.toml" ` --masked_loss `+ dataset.toml [[datasets.subsets]] image_dir = "D:/my dataset/data" num_repeats = 1 conditioning_data_dir = "D:/my dataset/masks"
>>7970225Can you try some more complex movement/position prompts? Wanna know how much knowledge of the base model is retained.
>>7970160you know how some people play league of legends or fortnite or world of warcraft or valorant or whatever 18 hours a day, letting their lives decay around them?extremely mentally ill people do that with 4chan generals, aggressively shitposting against anything that their headmates say is bad.
>>7970225trash attracts trash
>>7970181Alright thanks for the information.
>>7970153Nah. Used to since AID1 but available SOTA is shit and I burnt out.
>>7970160if it's not good don't post it
>>7970240Ok, got it, thanks anon, wish I could come up to how to segment it more effectively than just going through every image with ps.
>>7970224I just tried to get a captioning software to work and again I run into errors with torch. I might try to do it manually later. Thanks
>>7969659Updated cascade prototype new epoch samples, featuring anon's waifu (txt2img no negs) I did two gens of each artist at random seeds and picked one.prompt used: >shidare hotaru, 1girl, solo, angry, looking at viewer, black flower, black headband, black rose, blue eyes, blush, breasts, cum on body, cum on breasts, flower, headband, hetero, large breasts, nipples, nude, purple hair, rose, short hair, hair flower, hair ornament, huge breasts, by artist>by bluethebonehttps://files.catbox.moe/810jlx.png>by cutesexyrobutts https://files.catbox.moe/xlks57.png>by ishikei https://files.catbox.moe/tcxi77.png>by jtveemo https://files.catbox.moe/qlkojw.png>by mdf_anhttps://files.catbox.moe/8ivjld.png>by orushibu (I don't really know this artist so not 100% if its accurate) https://files.catbox.moe/jo6c61.png>by slugbox (needs more bake time but you can see its getting there) https://files.catbox.moe/t9nejf.png>by sakimichan (C U R S E D) https://files.catbox.moe/tm4hae.png
>>7970263well post em mate
>>7970266Finally something actually worth looking at. This place has been a shithole all day. FurGODS, I kneel.
still looks like shitbuy and ad
>>7970271just go back to spamming we know it's you
>>7970266these styles are pretty accurate, but what about the graininess? especially the mdf an one looks like it picked up more sketchiness than even the artist has, and the bluethebone is maximum film grain, again more so than the artist has. the jtveemo is kind of blurry, especially the shading on the hair; if you look up the artist's pics they are smooth lines where the shading stops and starts, not blurred into each other.it's an improvement over before, that's to be sure, but the base performance of the model is still mogged by both naiv3 and pony
>>7970266Looks promising. My only concern is how well if follows prompts and concepts, 1girl large breasts etc is kinda played out.
AI, give me 1girl, cum everywhere
>>7970268Thanks, please take a look and see what u can do. Need it for Pony V6.https://files.catbox.moe/jezqcn.rar
>>7970291I meant the errors heh
>>7970271I did, turn off adblocker and maybe you'll get to see it once they add it to the banner :^)>>7970276You gotta remember you're looking at the 4th epoch of a pruned dataset, you really can't compare it to what you expect of the or any fully baked model. The point of my posts is to show the promise it has. I personally think this will be the new model to jump to once it's done -- hence my posting and donating to them. I'm also not familiar yet with all the little settings options cascade gens have and am not genning at the higher resolutions it's capable of, which probably makes a difference. If you look on the furry diffusion discord, some posters have posted much better quality images than mine, they just (obviously) aren't hdg friendly. I'm more of a baker, and am interested primarily in figuring out cascade lora training once a .safetensors is available. If someone else wants to get access from Jordach and whip up some higher quality gens, I'm all for it.
>>7970245Generation website is very saturated right now
>>7970291retard
>>7969920sweet and thanksjust post her and I'll see it whenever I scroll through the thread later
>>7970294Haha...
>>7970278If you look at my post of the last epoch I tried to do more variation in posing/sex, and the furries have posted lots of promising pose images. I really am not much of a prompter, but imo it follows input very well, and from what I've seen it's capable of decent backgrounds (I didn't prompt any in my images kek, was more focused on artist styles)
>>7970160Will it be 60 days for a single epoch? If it's multiple epochs then there is no point in not having a huggingface and releasing each epoch as it is done, like fluffyrock did. Waiting 60 days just to get feedback is pretty dumb.
>>7970300There's a webui extension for thatAlso I'm pretty sure you're launching linux scripts on windows
>>7970305They're putting together a FAQ to address all this stuff, will link it once they drop it. Honestly, just join the dicksword and ask them and they reply pretty quick to any questions
>>7970312lamo no. they can come here if they want to answer questions
>>7970312>just join the dickswordgo the fuck back
>>7970306I have no fuckin idea. Something is wrong fundamentally. I'm having to troubleshoot basic installation when I just follow directions. It has been a nightmare so I stuck to just generating. Finally got up to 2-3 loras, figured how to get pony working by myself. Sad about the loras but Hopefully they will appear or I can request them on /wsr or something.
>>7970314This. /hdg/ is the epicenter of sd arts and culture. Everything that happens here is important and if it doesn't happen here it's irrelevant.
>genning erotic chibi stickers for the game i'm never going to makei've lost control of my life
>>7970266looks promising if this is only 10% of full potential
>>7970314>>7970315No one's pointing a gun to your head lmaoIf you're desperate for immediate answers then that's just where you'll get the answers instead of asking into the void of /hdg/ and hoping they see it
>>7970318The webui tagger installs automatically so u know
>>7970321relax
>>7970321Glue them together on a manga cover like that one based anon
>>7970324Ignore him, it's the same jealous spammer. Your stuff looks promising, I have faith in you
>>7970314>>7970315They've posted here before, but I'm just some random ass hdg poster who likes the project, I can't mind control them at anons beck and whim kek
janny war lmao
>>7970324I'm not donating so I don't really care, but donators might want to see progression over time instead of waiting 60 days. I'm just seeding that idea into their heads in the thread and they will go and demand action based on the idea they think they had themselves. No need for me to actually go into the furry discord myself.
>>7970321balatro source code leak was a ton of if else statements, same as undertale was. you don't need a lot of skill to make a successful pc game. steam also allows ai art nowadays as long as it's in the description.all you need is a vision, patience and determination.
>>7970340GEG
>>7970335>I have faith in youI'm NTA I have nothing to do with the furry model. Just weird seeing people desperately trying to nitpick and undermine the model as if they're threatened by its existence.
>>7970343>ton of if else statementsYandere Dev... Yamete...
>>7970348because they are
>>7970351kek. didn't list him as a successful example because that faggot is never going to finish his game!
>>7970348I want pony to go away but not to be taken over by furry2.0
>>7970341Nta but so far they've been very transparent and sharing of every step, Jordach even published the comfy UI non spaghetti node Gui he's working on. I have no reason to believe we'll just be left hung out to dry for 60 days, infact fairly sure they'll address the details of that in their fact. I've been bugging them for the past 2+ days straight every other msg on dicksword so I'm taking a break kek
Funny how nai furry has the same sort of default human look as EF
>>7970356we trade a 15% anime model for a 50% one. it's a no-brainer
>wtff that style is hot>bake it>realize the specific pics were hot but the style fundamentals are shithm
>>7970343In truth it's one of the things I intend to learn but there's only so many hours in the day. My skill backlog is>get better local gens>learn 3d animation in proper software rather than the bullshit I've been using>improve at street fighter>get better at my real job>start working on my h-game that will get me sued over copyright infringement thanks for reading my blog post
>>7970341It's very telling that you have no idea what's going on and criticising based on your imagination of how things might be happening.
>>7970356>but not to be taken over by furry2.0I'll never understand this logic The model has yuge anime dataset, characters and artist tags. Who gives a fuck if furry is also baked in? Just don't prompt for furry and you won't get furry, simple as
https://rentry.org/anonaugusNACCfor my fellow naiggasstay woke
>>7970266based
>IRL artist has no centralized database archive of his workSigh, time to go one by one.
>>7970266well if it knows hotaru it's a good model in my book
>>7970365>The truckkun recipe.SIRS
>>7970357What spaghetti? You just make a workflow, Select everything, Create group node. It's only 1 node, no spaghetti.
oh jesus almighty
>>7970340sir, a second janny hit the queue
>>7970378QUICK PLEASE CATBOX BEFORE JANN-
Hear, hear
>>7970376I wouldn't know, I've never tried comfy, just what I've seen in screens of it. If people want to use regular comfy, power to them. For smooth brains like me who get ptsd flashbacks to bad blender set ups at the mention of a more existing, there's the gradio cover
>Eyes are real bad but composition is very goodMmmmmmm
Pepsi Co avert your eyes!!!
>>7970378>>7970382>>7970385>>7970387>>7970389the holiest of based
new upscaler just droppedhttps://github.com/megvii-research/HiDiffusion
>>7970373Facial please?
>>7969971Please can some Anon box this for me, none of the temporary email sites I use manage to process the link they send you properly, and I really don't want to sign-up for yet another service that I'm not going to interact with
In the process of getting a dataset togbether for a bake. Is it worthwhile to paint over watermarks/logos and shit if the result looks passable at arms length or is it a waste of time unless you do a proper redraw of the background and try to find whatever photoshop filters they slapped on top of it as well to make it truly blend?Anyone done this sucessfully? I know some people just make sure to tag watermark before bake then neg it for gen and hope for the best but i can not stand the smug transparent P mocking me.
>>7970397how do you use it?
>>7970404Dude just make a protonmail takes 2 seconds
>>7970405I just use llama cleaner and the clone tool in Photoshop desu
>>7970405No need to, if it's baked well it shouldn't show up even without negs.If you really need to, lama cleaner should try to match the background.
>>7970405I always brush out watermarks because it's minimum effort.
>>7970407no idea kek
>>7970410>>7970412>>7970416Alright, thanks.
>>7970235>>7970236don't worry, this lost cat has found a good home
>>7970420very nice
yeah the eye color is inconsistent but i coomed so it's all over for me
>>7970356I've probably thought more about a perfect anime dataset than you but I don't see you training anything.>meet perfect, the enemy of good!
>>7970365Interesting settings but don't notice a big difference on my gens aside from turning on SMEA and DYN
>>7970378basado
>>7970002https://www.mediafire.com/file/qdsvmhpmwwscun1/c%2Ann%2Al%2Ang%2As_gesture.safetensors/fileUltra early bake, ymmv.Activate with: cunnilingus gesture
>>7970420real incel shit
kyaa~ jenny don't look!!
>>7970411C'mon man box of that one pleaseee uuooohhh
Your little threaderino is getting NTRed by cnyugods. Close your eyes!
>>7970430i'm a good-aligned sadist
slimed
>>7970378>>7970435https://files.catbox.moe/datw0f.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/dhq7y1.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/z62axd.png
Grrr >:( Who dared break da rulez!!!
Can some make a lora for fingernails? bugs me how they are always inconsistent, when you inpaint hands separately.
>>7970439the single slice of lime as a necklace sent me.
lora looks nicei like this old style
Man I LOVE very small females totally adults not underage I promise janny yes it's true
>>7970444come back anonie, you missed your trips!
>>7970444that's literally what her vtuber model uses
>>7970445>old style???
>>7970428They both seem pretty comparable breaking wiseYours might be a bit better
>>7970449don't recognize the tuber but i've seen enough designs to believe you.
>>7970428helper tags:one hand up,cunnilingus gesture,tongue out, open smilepicrelated angles: from above, from side, from belowmore diverse training data would allow for weird poses like from behind.>>7970451works for me, not sure.
And there was nothing that the janny could do about it. Cunny was a made man, and groidspammer wasn't
What are the best checkpoints and/or loras for proper loose socks?
https://civitai.com/models/416614/score9-score8-pony-slidersntcaixyz?modelVersionId=464168What does this do? description sounds autistic
>>7970454now go home and get your fucking uohbox
>>7970450shit wrong pic
>>7970456Thats hot please post more
I should have known banana breasts wouldn't work, but at least it makes for good brain food during studying
>>7970461Took a while to make that one, but I'll see what I can do after I eat!
>>7970464Dudes look so pleased by what's about to happen
>>7970465Looking forward to it, i'd love to see that bitch covered
based
>>7970464based
>>7970464controlnet?
>>7970291https://files.catbox.moe/m2mrra.safetensorsI didn't test it on PonyV6 since I use Autism, but it was trained on V6. It was done very lazily, but all you need for activation is FEFaye.
>>7969747Retro Style - https://files.catbox.moe/j6r34r.safetensors
>skinny, large assProblem?
>>7970488i, too, enjoy ninja deer
>>7970488not very nippon of you, anon.
>>7970483Done using the new forge couple feature.
>>7970492what did i miss is this like regional prompter or whatever
>>7970496Nyoooo
>>7970495Better and way easier to use.
>>7970495afaik it's literally the same thing (i.e. using the concepts from the same paper) but the ui isn't complete fucking shite
>>7970502I reckon it tastes sour
>>7970502Now THIS is what I'm talking about, low angles are too good.
>>7970502Where's her penis
>>7970510Based
>>7970513based where?
10 BUSINESS DAYS BROS!!!
>>7970514In YOUR ASS
>>7970518Until NAI v4? Based, I've been saving my dollarees
>>7970519That's gay. I can dig it
>>7970518uooooohhh?!
>>7970502There's not enough Limes out there, please do some oral or anal with her.
Is there a way to "tattoo" things properly? Like I want a character to have tatoo like tear lines going from the eyes to the chin,but when I draw it and then upscape it get's lost with the rest of the face.
>>7969761Way to get people to donate to your project.
sssnnnnifffffff https://files.catbox.moe/2yrm7w.png
>>7970538Add it after upscaling
>forgot to reset my upscaler for img2imgso thaaat's why stuff's been fuzzy
>>7970543Yeah but how?Then it just looks out of place.
>>7970546Paint it on and inpaint using only masked at 1024x1024, high denoise. Go over at img2img with low denoise to melt it in better.
>want to scrape pics from old flash game>UI elements in the frontsigh i need to decompile it don't i
>>7970546draw shitty version then inpaint at low denoise
>>7970540That's some random anon, the cascade creators aren't here right now as far as I know.
>>7970562I'm the cascade creator and I'm here
>>7969754They're making a FAQ site with more info or something, but most of the updates are being posted on the furry diffusion discord right now (see >>7969631)
>>7970563No you aren't, and if you are get back to work
>>7970563astralite had what appeared to be DIY furry onaholes in his training material, as well as creepy 3d dolls. what hidden horrors can we expect in yours?
>>7970563Hello
>>7970563Are you in the room with us right nyow?
>>7970575Booox
Anyone know of a good imagemagick way to crop out the transparency out of images? I have some where the transparent mask goes beyond the borders of the actual image inside.CHATGPT doesn't want to cooperate or I don't know how to prompt for that.
>>7970563And I work at nintendo.
>>7970582I actually just managed to get it to tell me how, nvm.
>>7970568I had the idea of including some highly rated rule 34 images into the dataset, but i always had trouble with the >< operators, so i hope i downloaded the right files.
>>7970588Using r34 comments as natural language captioning was also part of that
Bros look at my cute wife
>>7970593why don't you have kids yet
>>7970598i got a vasectomy
>>7970598Soon
How do I make calls to auto/forge backend? I want to automate generating from text files.
>>7970598careermaxxing
>>7969971I was not sure of which one you wanted, so have both of them:https://pixeldrain () com/u/9Y8yZGTdhttps://pixeldrain () com/u/gUZypp7q
Pony being such a bitch to make styles on,is that an SDXL in general thing or is Pony just that fucked?
>>7970621nai is also sdxl. pony (and other local sdxl models) are just incompetently made
>>7970619Cute wife
>>7970621It's easier than on 1.5 in my experience. Way more forgiving to train on
>>7970624For characters yeah,but for styles it feels like it's trying way too hard to "normalize" the end result ,and styles to a small degree need an overfit,especially styled ones.
>>7970621It's a Pony thing,Nai is sdxl and works great like you see.
>>7970440Thank you!
when will he kill himself
Doras arent any better than LoconsFACT
https://civitai.com/models/416637/shiin-art-style-v05?modelVersionId=464190NAIturds, your response?
>>7970639Then what's the point of them?Better yet,what's the point of any other lora versions like Locon when base Lora already does everything.
>>7970623Thanks bro
>>7970622pony was made with malice
So our only salvation is either V7 unfucks itself,or Cascade won't be vaporware...great
I just noticed that rentry anon uploaded my saki atg lora, if you're here why didn't you upload my bubukka lora?
>>7970652Or the furry scare is just that, and naiv4 drops saving us from the hassle of wrangling these dogshit models.
>>7970621it's not hard to make styles on pony
>Try to inpaint side by side penis awe stuff>The guy keeps on getting rendered away instead of close upBros....................................... I need help.....
>>7970663side by side penis awe?
>>7970659>and naiv4 dropsUnless it leaks it's worthless
>>7970663>spoonfeed me so i can make more racebait trashPlease kill yourself as soon as possible
>>7970660>it's not hard to make styles on ponyAnnon...the place is filled with loras that look like nothing they are saying they portray
>>7970652like i said for over a year now, MONEY is all that matters in AI. if you have fuck you money like NAI does you can mess around with whatever you want. and NAI's rig pales in comparison to any serious ai company. stuff like NAI3 could be trained in a day by microsoft. local will forever be doomed to rot as bigger closed-source models require more and more compute to train. models get bigger, the standards get higher, enterprise compute gets more expensive, local hardware remains 24gb trash. the future of ai is playing with saas models that feel only 80% useful. want to scale NAI up to 4k, or use concepts/artists that aren't in the dataset? cope. want to use suno to see your anime girl drive a car? too bad. want to teach suno to produce new music styled after a dead artist nobody but you cares about? not happening. people have this idea that ai is going to get better and they'll live in a waifu paradise but it's not happening. you will be forced into god's vineyard where the grapes are forever out of reach. at least they grow more and more sour as you cope!
>>7970674that doesn't mean anything. i've only had two style loras not work, both of which were ones that i couldn't train on 1.5 either. pony isn't especially difficult, you just have to be willing to actually use the training features available in sd-scripts
>>7970678Tell that to the style "bakers" where the only difference between the styles is like 2 pixels
Guys, which of these two https://files.catbox.moe/7w9ero.png looks more similar to https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=atg_%28wttoo0202%29+
>>7970671>Instantly thinks of cuck stuffYou really need to spend some time outside.>>7970668Yea with both characters standing and the male(monster) asserting dominance over the female(slave).
>>7970695idk, neither? if it's the more recent work, the eye shapes are different, might want to include some closeups. and the shading is very "default pony," doesn't copy the recent stuff well
>>7968913https://files.catbox.moe/1tm7im.png
>>7970712If you had to choose one which one would be tho?
https://civitai.com/models/415968/ponyxl-condomification-condom-transformation?modelVersionId=463435what the fuck is thisI'm surprised theres even enough art of this bizarre fetish to train a sdxl lora for it
I hate fishing for seed just so the model stop ignoring a different prompt each time
>>7970197>This resource has been removed by its owner
>>7969593Goblinbox?
>>7969747>Cunnilingus GestureCan you do blowjob gesture?
>>7969747First update to the rentry in several days and it's like 20 loras, thanks!
are the other yordlefuckers still around?i realized that lulu is the only yordle that pony doesn't really get so i'm trying to train my first lora since 1.5seems good so far with 12 more epochs to go, following the advice that pruning tags was actually a meme this whole time and to not do it
>>7970150>>7970154i feel like i recognize this artist, can i have a catbox?
>>7970743Do you inpaint upside down eyes if adetailer doesn't work? If yes, how?
>>7970746I'm too lazy I just run it again and it usually fixes it.
>>7970743Catbox?
>>7970732Pony already does this, it's not perfect but I've made some gens with it.
>>7970736>he fell for the pruning is a meme meme
>>7969860We know
>>7970765i cannot complain so far but i have to take it through the B/G spin cycle first
Pruning is NOT a memesource:pic related
>>7970762Yes, but I would like it to be perfect. Get it right 10 out of 10.
>>7970736Yes, I fuck yordles
>>7970767>>7970765update: pruning is NOT a meme and i was tricked
>>7969553beautiful
i recommend deep shrink together with euler_dy_smeahttps://files.catbox.moe/q645ig.pngthe workflow is even more of a mess than usualmy 1.5 scale pngs now have too much detail to upload to 4chanand ive satisfied my sense of adventure to where i can get a few hours of sleep before work tomorrow
>>7970800>Catbox through ComfyUI Why bother? Prompt info is a mess.
>>7970803i dont think you can finnagle this in a 1111 fork
>>7970783Yeah. I still don't know why some people still pass around the idea that pruning is bad. You prune to save yourself tokens and any tag you prune will get partially tied into whatever you make your activation token. You may lose a little bit of flexibility depending on what you prune, but I think the convince of just throwing the lora and your activation token into your prompt is worth that loss.
>>7970800>>7970806>10,000 steps>to create the most powerful 1girl,standing everok now i laff
>>7970811it's 30 steps
>>7969150Why is there no AI of the not-so-invisible-anymore green-haired girl?
>>7970819probably waiting for anime debut
>>7970784based based based
1neet, masturbating
1part time employed anon,dataset gathering, baking,
the waterfall tho
>>7970759https://files.catbox.moe/f3x2bk.png
This is my contribution to the beach edition thread.
>>7970783>>7970808>epoch 4 of my second attempt seems very reliable, and every epoch after that loses features or becomes more fucked upi guess you don't need much for a character lora if the model already half-understands it?
>>7970830She should bath under the cumfall.
>>7970808>Yeah. I still don't know why some people still pass around the idea that pruning is bad.It's at least good indication to differentiate between shit and decent bakers. Especially on Civitai.
im going insaaaaaane
damn that looks amazing, are you using NovelAI?>>7970308>>7968755>>7968745>>7968562>>7968361>>7967724Pic related is what I'm getting so far
>>7970135went through and tried a bunch of these. lot of them look like total dogshit in practice, but there's a few real nice looking ones. have yet to try combining though
>>7970856pony. judging from filename.
>>7970866whats a pony? My little pony?
>>7970868yes. anyone else who say different is lying.
>>7970868Pony is the local version on NAI3 essentially, I'm not a liar.
>>7970856https://novelai.net/inspectthe second to last one is nai
>>7970872well i'm not a liar too and this anon is lying
>>7970872basically this. and like the local version of anything ai, it's shit compared to the corpo stuff
>>7970806Does advanced sampler work well with karras? I was undfer the assumption that schedulers like karras would weigh the denoise excessively to the early steps of each sampler.
>>7970906nta but ive had no issues, even when using ones like sgm_uniform
>>7970909Isn't SGM linear unlike karras?
>>7970879Yeah I know, I love NAI and it's soon to feature no artist tags so I can be ethical too. 2 in 1.
>>7970929unsure, havent looked into what they actually do. all i know is that i've used both regular, karras, and sgm_uniform and had no issues
>>7970933My personal (non)-issue I've experienced was experimentally using advanced sampler with no conditioning/model modification with regular scheduling outputted the same result meanwhile karras outputted completely different results because it seemed to schedule the denoise per step range of each sampler.It fully denoises fine but the inconsistency just bothered me especially if I wanted to modify in very early steps.
Barely any posts during NA hours, tf happened? Not so long ago thread would almost fill up
>>7970981lots of spamming and shitposting to a point a janny went on a nuking spree
>>7970671BASED BASED BASED
>>7970985based janny (only when nuking groidspam)
>>7970981I'm out of anals so I'm setting up local and everything I gen looks like SHIT. Also I'm still nettled at the jannies.
>>7970981Everyone got banned for calling out the thread schizo, jannies actively working to destroy the thread so they don't have to deal with the schizo themselves essentially
Is there a mokuren (kunoichi) lora for pony? If not maybe I'll bake one tomorrow. My first time baking a character one tho
>>7970856Local.
>>7970966So this is what Nietzsche meant.
>>7970966Take this shit to /d/.
>>7970833>>7970834>>7970836>>7970867nice>>7970966Despite the Sandworm Sphincter she's cute. Nice style and 1girl.
>7970966>/d/-tier shit>with shitty stylehow much worse could it be
>>7971048>nice styleThat's literally just the le BLACKED NTRshit gibe patreonbux style.
>>7971051I like how the blacked patreon style has its own name lmao, its actually true they all do the same shit
>spammer's bot automatically posts if it detects the word bl**k lol
Is this thing NAI? https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/117279950Style looks very 1.5, but it's more accurate than any of her character loras. And probably too complex for animagine despite being just basic pov sex.
So forge is officially dead?
poast you're current mixhttps://civitai.com/models/353159?modelVersionId=411351
>>7971067ironic eslkun coom on
>>7971062nvm I'm blind, it's tagged naihe did clear the metadata though
>>7971062imported into nai, it is nai. generated at a larger than normal res.1girl, solo, horn (arknights), artist:j.k., {{{{{artist: goban}}}}}, {{{{{glossy skin, ai-generated}}}}}, artist: cutesexyrobutts, {{artist:redrop}}, {{artist:yd (orange maru)}}, blonde hair, covered nipples, animal ears, long hair, black hairband, parted lips, thick lips, {{surprised}}, sweat, grey tank top, midriff, toned, {{{{{mature female, huge breasts}}}}}}, {{{{upper body}}}}, very aesthetic, best quality, amazing quality, absurdres,
>>7971066I mean it still works, not like you need updates every week to keep using it
>>7971066But do you have any reason to switch back to AUTO?
>>7971051That's nice I guess? I'm not into BLACKED content so I wouldn't know. I'm not one to kink shame though.
>>7971074did you draw over that arm/hand
>>7971076nah
>>7971077the line thickness clashes so i was wondering
>>7971070thanksalso for helping me figure out that my metadata reader doesn't work
>>7970966>>7971051>>7971055Not anymore it isn't
>>7971079yeah pov hands on this style mix often results in some thick lines / less rendered arms + hands
>>7971067nothing has come close to autism yet
>>79706952
>>7971072>switch back to AUTOI installed comfy but I need to learn to walk again...
>>7971086autism anon please bless us with another mix to tide us over before the next finetune!
>>7970626It's a setting issue, had the same thing. They also need activation tags. But when they're good, they're way better than on 1.5
>>7971106>Cumfy
>>7970856Last one. It's leebongchun. Posted above.
>>7970774Yeah sure I'm into it anyway. Would be nice to have the proper tongue bulge too.
>>7969206not that I'm aware of. They are a doujin/manga author so most of their work is manga.
>>7971111yeah I do wonder what kind of black magic he performed
>>7970463Newguy1091 tends to do the best curvy tits but it's a cartoon style lora.
>>7970463just use ((((raita))))
Lack of motion. Take it as you will
So do we have a list of style tags that actually work?
>>7970774>>7971129>gonna be a few thousand scraped images>natively it usually does two hands for no reasonI wonder if that's because of training batch size.
>>79706952.Also give base Pony a try.Autism has better anatomy, but I feel base Pony with no negs and no "source_anime" tag gives good outputs for style LoRAs. Autism has a much better default style, but it tends to override style LoRAs.
>>7971139ponyxl_loras_n_stuff and framacalc in the OP
>>7970717make an x/y plot with 4 random seeds, i don't choose based off of one
>>7970718i think 1.5 requiring lots of training images for quality was because it was shit. sdxl can work on low or even very low numbers of training images without frying.
>>7971150fr
>>7971148nah fuck off
>>7971152you were the one who asked for help though
>open up Animagine after months>feels so refreshing being able to get characters and an anime style first try>reroll the same prompt 200 times because the model is shit otherwiseEnded up having to gen a base image in Pony first
>>7971155>Ended up having to gen a base image in Pony firstWhy don't you refine it?
>>7971155What's the advantage over img2img? Never tried that, can the refiner go as far as to change the character? I though it only did the last few steps. It would also need a separate prompt since "person \(arknights\)" has huge negative effects on Pony.
>>7971160meant for >>7971158
>>7971160go and try it retard
>>7971160refiner does an arbitrary percentage of the steps, you can switch at 10% if you want
>>7971160It's significantly faster
>look for source image on booru>its a link directly to the pixiv image file instead of the actual pixiv pagewhich retards are submitting these and why is it still happening
>>7971163Never mind then, I thought refiner referred to something more specific than just switching to another model partway through.>>7971171scraper bots
is it possible to prompt unworn face maskmask pull and unworn mask dont work
>>7971181based
>>7971180i'm sure it can but mask = covered face for the ai, so you probably need to use something else. train a lora.
>>7971181frysed
>>7971183its joever
>press the f key to drag the inpaint window>somehow focuses on the fucking prompt window>press alt+scroll to zoom the window>for some reason focuses on the browser toolbar>try to expand the inpaint window since the scroll wheels are still visible>expands into infinite, have to restart entire UIholy fuck if it's this bad with the basic retard-free UI I'm definitely not trying Comfy.
>>7971066Obligatory bro you don't need updates bro brainlet cope. Oh wait, someone already did it...
>>7971184
>>7971158Seems to work worse, though it's probably just my specific case. Her tail is huge and Pony doesn't have a good prompt for it, I can't let it do more than 4/20 steps or so or it will shrink or disappear. And that's not enough steps to set up the anatomy to a point where animagine won't fuck it up.With img2img I can use masked controlnet on only the human bits, then go hard on denoise upwards of 0.8. Or even just paint the tail in myself.
>>7971188also>try using Edge for the web-ui>keep on getting spammed with shitty suggestions like pic relatedjesus fuck this company really doesn't know when to just stop.
>>7971180>try to prompt her Persona5 mask and it gives her a covid face mask>prompt sunglesses and get a second pair up on her head>prompt eyepatch bikini and she becomes a pirateJust draw a blob and inpaint, it's the only way.
>>7971190sniffed
>>7971190lick lick lick
Realistically what would V7 improve over v6?I don't mean unfucking the hashed styles,that's a lost cause cuz he's a nigger,but I mean things like backgrounds not being absolute ass.
>>7971188Comfy is fine in this regard, it just takes a lot of time and some knowledge to set up workflows that A11 can access with one click.
>>7971197More anime baseline style.
>>7971201Style?
>>7971202gennsui
>>7971197Meh, you can just outpaint backgrounds with 1.5. Sure it would save some time but it's more convenience than a killer feature.Styles yeah, but I don't understand why he hashed characters as well. Fanart is fair game in any legal system I know of.
>>7971193it really doesn't take that long to turn that shit off
>>7971204because his endgame is drawing people to a paid service with everything unlocked -> get a job
>>7971204>Fanart is fair game in any legal system I know of.Doesn't help he admitted to using the styles personally,but just refuses to allow people to use it because "ethics'
>>7971206You want to point out where in the literal fuck the setting for this shit is at? Because everytime I think I turned off any shitty suggestion shit, another one pops up. There's a reason why no one uses this dogshit when Chrome not only does better but have shit like this disabled by default.
>>7971209i just googled how to turn it off and was done in like 30 seconds
>>7971204>you can just outpaint backgrounds with 1.5You can do a lot of other effort shit with your gens too, doesn't mean anyone will. Current and future models shouldn't be a fucking downgrade in backgrounds, or anything else for that matter.
>simple background, white backgroundYes, I'm a real artist, how can you tell?
>>7971210>no picturesYou don't get it. I have everything fucking turned off in the settings and shit like that still shows up.
>>7971212I could tell by that BBC on your art, truly masterful veinjob sir.
>>7971213pm'ed you the fix
>>7971213go into the bottom of "privacy, search, and services" and turn everything off, go into "sidebar" and turn everything off, especially copilot, the name of the dumb ai feature, that's it
>trained on millions of porn images>can only do one type of purple tentacles
>>7971219have you tried prompting for what they look likedon't lie
>>7971220How do you describe tentacles with dark purple, light purple and orange undertone circles with light purple symbols plastered all over the dark purple side?
>>7971217That's what I already had done. Literally. It's just the usual Microsoft bullshit with their obnoxious forced suggestion shit so it's not really surprising that Edge has it too. That's why I use regedit to block updates for at least a year because I'd rather trust freelance Linux troons over the Jeets at Microsoft any fucking day. Even their store is dogshit garbage.
>>7971222so, no.the symbols might not work but if you use the right word instead of "circles," suckers, >>7971223skill issue pathetic honestly
>>7971203Where lora? Can't find.
>fellatio gesture>a lot of images are just fellatiofuckignngngng hentai taggers
>real artists are so much better not like those melty hand ais
i fuckin kek'd
>>7971229>>real artists are so much better not like those melty hand aisactually a good thing. imagine the literal wave of suicides from artists if AI was any more popular.
>>7971232We'll get there eventually
>handjob gesture actually does fellatio gesturenext bake?
>>7971234I don't think I'll bake the fellatio actuallyIt's just too consistent on tism already
What non-XL checkpoint do you guys use?
>>7971244Pony v7 SD3 beta
>>7971244Nai V10,I'm generating your future waifu
Anyone with experience training with Prodigy that knows if the alphas matter? I've seen people saying to set it to "1", since prodigy supposedly will scale it, but when I do that it can't learn shit.
>>7971249Yes of course, they aren't decoupled or anything. I posted comparisons. Should be in the archive.
>>7971244EasyFluff. Apply hll lycoris. Use artist names. Becomes Anime model.https://rentry.org/5exa3
>>7971244sudachi for anime-friendly style backgrounds. realistic666 for "one woman standing". Occasionally easyfluff+hll, because it knows a ton of characters and 700 artist styles, and most work better than Pony loras do. But all three just for img2img or with heavy controlnet.
>>7971254>But all three just for img2imgWhat does this achieve opposed to using Pony?
>in-model tag clashes with copyright namesad
>>7971251From what I can see in the archive, you just scale LR * (dim/alpha). Since prodigy also scales the learning rate it seems pointless to change it from anything but dim=alpha, unless you want prodigy to fight with the alpha scaling.If you want to lower the learning rate, it's probably smarter to adjust the prodigy d_cor, no?
>>7971259its more likely that the lora doesnt work without stealing innate knowledge of the model
>>7971229those hands look fine
>>7971260They work more or less the same as with other method in my experience, but yes I found DIM=alpha to be the best when testing.>>7971262Nah, the tag I wanted to use is super strong for some reason and totally pulled away from the trained thing.
>>7971231how are you piecing together your artist mixes? wildcard? or did you put em together manually
>>7971258Style and characters, that's all. Pick any artist from the hll list and compare with the same on pony.
pony..with backgrounds?
I don't even need to gen anymore, the prodigy loss graphs is all I need
>>7971267wdym? i just tried to copy this at first >>7971062
>>7971272Is that peak a cosine with retards thing?
lora bakers are mentally ill
>>7971272IM CUMMING
>>7971261catbox?
>>7971275Comes with the territory
>>7971274The peak is prodigy trying to adjust the learning rate after the initial valley. Then you get the orgasmic decrease right after, so beautiful.
>>7971279use stealth pnginfo
>>7971273ah gotcha, been exploring animagine refiner mixes & didnt know if the 5 artists there was just random selection or what
>>7971282Touma is such a lucky guy.
>>7971275literally me fr>>7971283True. Much better than AdamW in my experience.
>>7971283prodigy-chan so cute
thread is surprisingly normal
I guess it should be expected but lord are these taggers shite at tagging non anime art
red pill me on Prodigy (Or AdamW if you use Prodigy)
>>7971296why would you ever look at something that isn't anime?
>wake up>generate more huge dicked penis on face imagesits like my breakfast at this point
>>7971299i have other interests that aren't big titty anime girls
https://civitai.com/models/139131/sagging-breastsif you're based, you're based
>>7971302>sagging breasts>lorabut why
>>7971300based groidspammer
>>7971306wait no that isn't what a meant NO
>>7971302speaking of which I made a Seura Isago LORA, I'll upload it later when im not stupid and lazy
>>7971305Yeah, it works natively just fine, what we need is a good proper torpedo tits lora.
>>7971283What does the loss even mean?usually when I bake I get around 0.07 at most
>>7971283Every setup from an anon I've tried for prodigy sucked I keep waiting for someone to give a good one.
>>7971309How do you plan on becoming less stupid? I don't mean that as an insult, just curious.
>>7971155Reminded me I need to upload that tomimi Lora tonight or tomorrow when I remember.
>>7971314by falling asleep, (Im way past my bed time like hours)
>>7971310If they're tagged anywhere I'll do it
>>7971290He gets to fuck Kuroko so obviously
>>7971321pointy_breasts on Danbooru and torpedo_breasts, pointy_breasts on Gelbooru.
>>7971325Shall be done, even though the pointy breasts tag is kinda shit.But I also discovered another nice funky artist that I like thanks to it, tamaya. Already scrapped it.
>>7971260dim=alpha fries less
>>7971285>there was just random selectionwhat
>>7971330You can mix your artist loras randomly, retard-kun.
>>7971327Nice.
>>7971258They're all good for different things. Fluff has the strongest styles, both innate and loras. Weak character loras, details don't transfer as well from 1.5 and there are few pony-specific ones.Pony follows your prompt and understands anatomy, it's the only one that doesn't do reverse pussy on the regular. But it always fights against your style with its own, which also varies wildly with the noise seed. Very few characters baked in and few char loras.Animagine knows tons of characters but has like maybe five styles outside of the default 1.5, or "aislop" as they say. I've never seen a lora of any kind made on Animagine either. Probably because its porn anatomy is worse than old AOM.>>7971315can't wait
>>7971332they won't mix well this way kek
>>7971330braindead retard
>>7971335>there are few fluff*-specific onesAlso pony kills background details, almost as if on purpose.
>>7971335>I've never seen a lora of any kind made on Animagine eitherI tried baking style lora for it, and compared to pony it's just miraculous how well it soaks it.
How to prompt this pose on pony?
>>7971344pov, breast press, facial features, close up,on person, lying on person/another, gacha
Does anyone actually use the rating tags? like rating_questionable and rating_explicit?
>>7971311By default it's going to be the Mean-Squared-Error (MSE) (on the latent "pixels") between the predicted noise on the encoded noisy latent and the true added noise. By looking at the code, this is then reduced twice over the "color" channels and the batch itself, taking the mean each time again.TLDR: very low loss = model has memorized input = fried.Since it's so abstracted away by layers of math most of the time it's not really interesting what the exact value is, instead compare it to other losses during the whole training process.
>>7971352except it doesn't work
>hardest nuts are to airhead or sleeping girlslmao.
>just realized i could've easily automated some of my hand tagginghm
>>7971327Sadly that tamaya style was not distinctive enough to not get melted back into nothingness
Alright bakers, here's a cookie that I don't find anyone talking about in LoRa guides. Which one do you shill for?
>>7971375Never tried the other one but snr gamma was useful in my xyzs.
>have thigh boots and knee boots in same dataset>AI gets them confused because they both use the word boot>change knee boot to white footwear>3,000 steps later, white footwear generates shoes instead of bootsplease kohya i am begging you just add pivotal tuning>>7971375turn both of them off for sdxl imo
>>7971310Do you count regular perkies as torpedoes?
>>7971375I tried all of these things that were supposed to do the same thing and I like Min SNR gamma 10 best. 5 is too aggressive.
https://catbox.moe/c/ulxazh
>>7971381distinct lack of >1girl, after fellatio, open mouth, tongue out, excessive cum, cum in mouth, cum on tongue, cum on face, heart-shaped pupils, smile,
>there were studies on the perfect breast curve ratioi kneel
>>7971379Probably not, they need to have a bit of that distinct shape.https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/7396450 this is like the bare minimum of that curve I'd say, but not enough still.https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/7495348 this is more like it
>>7971386gross
>>7971386IG a double concept can't hurt, they both need the curve.
>doing the face im trying to prompt to get a better idea what to putI sure hope no one is watching
Why does web-ui load cloudflare scripts?What the fuck?
>>7971395that's why everyone was saying to use comfy all this time, duh
>>7971377https://github.com/kohya-ss/sd-scripts/pull/99180% of the work is done, only thing missing seems to be accounting for the 2 TE encoders for SDXL.
>>7971335>five stylesThere is a 16000 Artists list and at least 2000 of them give a different style so you clearly never used animagine with styles
>>7971398i was using for 1.5 training before i started trying out pony. getting the embeds is a pain in the ass but there's absolutely no conceptual bleed at all during training and the actual lora training goes so much faster
>>7971395You realize it loads a bunch of network dependencies that downloads models automatically, right? Let me know when you find something actually incriminating with a packet sniffer.
>>7971405>total non sequiturwhat did he mean by this
found a lora for you and your gfhttps://civitai.com/models/417538/anatomy-of-a-gamer-meme
>>7971406mental illness
>>7971410I think I'll keep using my version instead.https://files.catbox.moe/p2s7ln.png
That's surpisingly not as horrible as it could've been for an early epoch of a wholly sfw irl artisthttps://files.catbox.moe/r9xlx0.png
>>7971416not anime but it looks kinda cool
>4 months later, STILL no artist collection lora except for small autismix anon onehll guy still doesn't want to touch pony?
>>7971419Do artist collection loras even work? I feel like even too different pics of one artist can regularize into nothingness.
>>7971344I was looking for a similar thing but where she has her back turned to you, and ended up having to use a lora. For this one I genned some 500 pics and got three that are sort-of close. Maybe with openpose or img2img from existing pics.Using "on stomach+abs" helps show more of the guy and avoid the default frontal pov (since you can't see her abs). Also male focus, but make sure your model is biased towards women, like autism or ebara and not default pony. And maybe close-up+perspective, though not too sure about these.By the way, it seems most of the image composition tags do nothing at all. 1girl standing (sideways:1.8) still puts her straight up, fisheye has no effect, perspective is very weak and mostly overlaps with from above/from below,...
>>7971419singular artist lora barely work, what make you think a collection is a good idea
>>7971418not bad yeahi wonder how it'll look when it bakes more because i tried to tag it a bit multistyletime to clean torpedo tits
>>7971419afaik it would take 21 days and he's not up for that kind of training>>7971421he did it for easyfluff and it worked. pretty much cleared all the fur shit in it.
>>7971386You like banana tits then not torpedo based on the pic
>>7971419collection loras are fucking retarded. being modular is a core strength of loras. just download an archive of artist loras which is objectively better.
>>7971422yeah a lot of tag/prompt are straight up not recognized by pony, dont know if he pruned this stuff too but I often find myself missing stuff that was working on 1.5 that I took for granted and didnt expect to lose going forward
>>7971429i think it's sdxl core problem not pony
The biggest issue is as always fuckign regular hentai taggers>perky breasts>are actually the most generic fatty balls
>>7971399Good to know. All I remember is people complaining on 3.0 release about how much stuff was pruned. Didn't know there was a new one, did they backtrack on that?
>>7971421hll lora on ef worked but I think it requires more knowledge compared to a single lora>>7971423they work by good bakers but that is very rare>>7971425but he did make a lora for animagine which is... a pretty meh model>>7971428no they are not if done well, dealing with lora shitpiles and playing with their strengths to avoid frying is annoying. I like mixing artists, and it doesnt work as well with lora mixing as it does with artist collection lycos and base model prompting.
now THIS is a lorahttps://civitai.com/models/417348/bioniclexl-pony
>>7971434Here's the list for 3.1 artists: https://files.catbox.moe/76bnae.txtAnd here is proof of them working on 3.0, courtesy of /vt/ (litter is down so I cut it to be under 200mb): https://files.catbox.moe/8hrg2k.zipAll animagine pruning rumors were just /mlp/ psyops to steer people to their model before they resorted to just complaining to the animagine guy until he had a stroke.>>7971435I was referring to his entire dataset with 1-200 vtubers and 1000 artists. The animagine model is just some cosplay realistic lora. He did train a TE for pony which "reconnected" vtuber tokens to their models or something.
>>7971433>large breast varying from medium size to giganticgood system
>>7971444>can't see the actual shape due to motion lines>perkyfuckignfurfags save us
anyone else use the colab trainer? there arent many settings so idk if i can optimize mine betterthe only things i change are repeats to 4, steps to 2500, batch size to 2 and use prodigy which autoset learning rate
>>7969747I kinda really feel bad for catbox. They have. A litter function. Nobody is gonna touch that shit in 3 days anymore lol
>>7971422I actually wanted the pose to be more similar to this, but with the male pov and without the kiss, so you can see how she's strongly learning forward.>on stomach+abs>perspectiveKinda helps but it also makes the girl have the abs (in this position you can see it), and the perspective on its own doesn't change much at all.>By the way, it seems most of the image composition tags do nothing at all.I wonder if they work on NAI.
>>7971440thanks for the list
>>7971444breast tags are the body tags, how did you not know that?
>>7971416Adding all the games that had actual humans in it definitely helped to get it to make more than cursed backgroundshttps://files.catbox.moe/5gynfa.png
Anyone has this lora? >>7971201
>>7971450so squatting cowgirl+leaning forward+straddling?
>this is considered either perky or pointy by booru taggershttps://files.catbox.moe/8uqb6r.jpgfuckiiiiiing
>>7971460the nipples are perky
>>7971458the first tags i tried
>>7971457dm'ed it to you :)
>>7971462i guess the breasts are also ended with a point so they're indeed pointed breastslol
>>7971465thank
>all this glossAHHHH TAKE ME OUT OF THIS FUCKING GAY EARTH
>>7971476>he doesn't wax up his women for maximum aerodynamics ngmi
>>7971476>he doesn't point high lumen lights at his waifu to better see her at all times
i kneelhttps://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=3824188
>>7971481Fkey's got a lot of sfw arts, why did they even prune him?
me on the back
Cascade fine-tune is the future
Guys gens been feeling kinda bland lately. Any styles you guys suggest?
>>7971481Those are the ones that have been added to the 3.1 version on top of what was already there. I don't have a 3.0 list.
>>7971486At least kantoku's there I guess.
>>7971488;) >>7969747leebongchun and somka are my top picks
>>7971485When is it out again
>>797149458 days now
>>7971481>>7971483They probably didn't really intend to "prune" them, this may be due to how they balanced the dataset and danbooru being their dataset source.
>>7971440>psyop>7971481ISREAL
But hey, fkey kinda works if you squint really hard.
>>7971464works for me
>>7971496But aren't we supposed to give furryfucker money to get it in 2 months?
>>7971499Here's without the pony
>>7971504Sovl. It's a shame that the only stylistically good local model is utter garbage.
>>7971481It has melon22 so I'm happy. Though it has the same issue that made me re-train the pony lora to not use an activation tag.
>>7971503Fuck Yeah I forgot about thatWell at least those 650 bucks will be used for A100 time and when it's over they'll keep training on their own machines
>>7971510See ya in two years then. Two years of ponyslop... Naikeks... i kneel...
I...https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/5463759?
>>7971503it will start regardless when latent caching finishes regardless, don't listen to the naikeks they're on shilling overdrive since they've decided to tank their next models
>>7971488I'm using Tenk, but everyone hates it so it's not really a rec
Anyone got wildcards for generating a dataset?
>>7971514groidspammer-kun, ran out of your blacked stash?
>>7971503That's the reality of any model, needs money to train fast. I donated, worth it to me. The results being posted on the furry discord look really nice too, detailed backgrounds etc.
>>7971517I was just showing off the melon that keeps getting added, it's not even /h/
>>7971518genuinely get help
>>7971515Box please I like
outline lora my beloved
>>7971521yeah, please, get some, or you'll keep seeing naikeks in your walls
>>7971523where
>>7971512Have you seen nais new pruned model... It's like when Jews get into a company and start sabotaging it from the inside, Naicucks better off saving for a gpu
>>7971526https://civitai.com/models/169170/xl-outline-ponysdxlkohaku
>>7971529pog
>>7971476i like gloss
>jordach's face when he sees flying hands, broken anatomy, gaping furry anuses everywhere, all tinted in piss on his gens due to the garbage dataset and its size after half a year of trainingcan't wait to see
>>7971508why are anime models so cursed
>>7971524>shat up and killed the alt thread so bad he has to come back for attention heredoesn't even surprise me that the bookmarked thread from 2 months ago isn't even halfway filledyou did this to yourself naishill
>>7971533Because most anime art is fucking garbage?desuPeople stop drawing real anime in 2007 for one
>>7971527They're just trying to put our guard down. They will train v4 on all of the artists in the world: Anime, Furry, Jeremy Lipking, Leonardo DiCaprio. On all kinds of content: Celebrities, Drugs, Cheese pizza! And they would tag it properly and not blueball their fellow goys with cockblocks...
>>7971536Not him, just dislike fanatical freetards too.
>>7971522>litter.catbox.moe/n1mtpv.pngWanted to re-gen it for you after cleaning up my node spaghetti first, and I found a 0.05 strength controlnet in there from some unrelated image. So it's not quite the same thing but very close.
>>7971537Oldfag-kun, I...
>>7971541>fanatical freetardsNAI hype was already dubious at best, but the recent posts are clearly damage control in response to the v3 furry model that pruned artist tags and set in stone that the next versions will be like that (if not also this one since base v3 would still be a "problem" that they'd rather replace/restrict)It's better to undermine the potential competition than come up with ways to justify how your model isn't worse than even pony since even that one kind of has artist tags
>>7971537
Does SD sometimes just break for you guys? Like you'll remove a word from a prompt and now it's just fucking up and the only way to fix it is to restart SD and now the same prompt without the word you removed will work fine?What causes this and is there an easier way to fix?
>>7971548Break how? Like the results are just jumbled noise?
>>7971546Yeah, meds my man. I'm actually rooting for cascade myself but paranoid schizophrenics like you need to get meds asap (or fuck a slampig in your case, whichever works best).
>>7971548go to settings and change emphasis mode to no norm
>>7971476*dips my waifu in oil*so shiny... so glossy...
>>7971517Sadly that's accurate to the artist, I draw better fingers myself.https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=8179397https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=7293448
>>7971550seeing >>7971518 that's pretty hard projection
>>7971549Yeah sometimes this, or the image is just fucked with terrible face generation and nonsensical anatomy, or bad colouring. Not sure how to best describe it.>>7971552interesting, will give that a shot. Thanks
>>7971554Yes and no...https://files.catbox.moe/r0xo6b.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/zoi8qb.png
>>7971440To be fair animagine dudes rant on porn destroying the human race came way before Pony was released.
>>7971555eugh
>>7971562The no norm setting should at least fix you getting a bunch of static as your image result, nonsensical anatomy is just a result of AI. If I do a ponytail character sometimes I'll just get a random detached ponytail floating in the air. I think it just is what it is.
>>7971557That was more of a joke, but kind of a shitty one I guess. Just tired of flamewar shitposters.
>>7971559she's a big girl
>>7971546>he believed the "not him"
>>7971554Yes, if you use good mixes instead of shitmixes.Had this already genned so sorry for the shit artist choice. Currently busy training something so can't bother proving anything other than what I already have.https://files.catbox.moe/0f2r9b.png
>>7971569bro is tiny next to her
>>7971569Yeah..I think that position works better with shotahttps://files.catbox.moe/u1m5p3.png
what if, just what if, we mixed animagine with pony?how come no one thought of this before? am I a genius?
>>7971481someone already ran tests with a ton of artists on animagine 3.1https://civitai.com/posts/2273977
>>7971541No meds today, schizo-kun? We're here if you need anything.
>>7971572>if you use good mixesSuch AS?!
>>7971577yeah you arewhat a bright idea wtf
>>7971577see >>7971577 it's already done and uploaded on civitai. The issue is you can't go over 15% pony without losing animagine knowledge and the result becoming a blur.
>>7971577Reproginex is on Civitai, it was made like a week after release. It became worse than 1.5 at porn in exchange for half-recognizing some gacha characters.
>>7971577people tried and it didn't work
>>7971579I'm not the one making up imaginary shills to explain anything I don't like. Explain how my behaviour is "schizo".
>>7971582upscayl
>>7971582I literally picked a similar image to >>7971554 that I already had.Here, does this count as not 1girl standing, lying upright in bed?
>>7971588tldr?
>>7971588>imaginary shillsWe can tell you're incredibly new here.
>>7971584See WHAT bro?!
>>7971584Who cares about shitty animagine knowledge. As long as it doesn't look like pony, but prompts like pony it'd already be a huge step forward.
Official_style anime_screencap bros... does NAI still win?
>>7971599always has.always will.
>>7971598>but prompts like ponyDo we tell him?
>>7971598Then why bother mixing with animagine if not for the knowledge? It doesn't have anything else going for it. Knowledge includes both characters and artist styles.
>>7971593The sign is a subtle joke.>>7971595I wish.
>>7971596See this >>7971572
>>7971599You can see the amount of nai posters steadily going down. The only naikeks that stubbornly cling to the model are the ones that like styles so awful that even pony can't do them. Local has won and cascade will be our victory parade
what are some schizo lora/artists tag combination for pony?
>>7971604It looks nice. styles and character can always be added with loras, as long as the base model isn't a fried, ugly mess.
>>7971613that is so true
>There's less NAI posts every thread that passesTime to post some gift keys, don't ya think?
>>7971599yes
>>7971621Yep.
>>7971324Turning Kuroko straight is still his biggest feat.
>>7971617What exactly looks nice? It has 3000 types of nice but you have to name them. If you add too much pony on top of it, you cannot name them anymore, therefore the 'nice' is lost.
>>7971622Shove that burger UP HER ASS
my pony gens look like an ink mess. could anyone share a "defautl" anime style on pony prompt? not on autism
>>7971626can't do thatand stopping that offtopic posting
>>7971627Why are you using base pony instead of autism?
>>7971628>can't do thatS**** i****
>>7971627it's pony so working as expected, enjoy
>>7971629style loras are way stronger
>>7971627aaaa \(quad-a\)There really isn't one other than specific artist tags, even with source_anime in positives and all the other sources +3d, realistic in negs it still makes whatever it wants.
>>7971632Why not just increase the weight of the style loras when using autism?
>>7971625Nice, is no baked in thick lineart and 2.5D effect. The ability to make flat styles. Personally couldn't care less about animagines 3000 styles that look nothing like the artist anyway
>>7971632base pony is also a lot harder to wrangle a consistent style out ofthat shit is completely RNG
>>7971635cuz it starts frying way sooner
>>7971622Thank god. I hate fan art and can only coom to official art.
>>7971636why is she undressing in the middle of the supermarket
>>7971637>that look nothing like the artist anywayBut they do.
>>7971643teasing tomboy gf
>still no Ashley lorabros...
>>7971637I like Aniamgine, but you can have that thing on pony as well. You don't need a merge for it. Just not dumb people in the thread that spend their time debating which model is good and which is not instead of trying to figure out how to make their models better without loras trained by pajeets.
>>7971647which ashley?
>>7971652The warioware loli
Kohacuck AstratroonAnimagarbageW(orst)D(iffusion model)
>>7971646damn teasing tomboy gf needs gentle breeding and pregnancy correction
>>7971660based
>>7971651Even in your example gen you can still see pony trying to derail everything. It tried to put shine/reflection and gradient on every surface. I'm not saying that's it's impossible to gen stylistic and nice images with the model, but getting something subtle is impossible.
>>7971624truly a king
>>7971668Is this /lgd/?
>>7971661Very gentle breeding with lots of kisses, deep tongue and hugs because tomboys doesn't know what's even cuddling
>>7971668Is there any way to gen that pose carrying the girl with pony? I would like to fuck my daughterwife like that
>>7971673princess carry
>>7971621everyone who wants already has itonly complete retards are still posting pics here instead of using this thread purely for shitposting
>>7971661
train it yourself or embrace fat hag
>>7971689hagbros we won
>>7971678I don't have any gift key and I've never tried NAI, can I have one?
>>7971698sent ;)
>>7971703Many thanks
>tag the clothes in dataset>try to prompt in alternate clothes>still uses the characters original outfiti hate training now
>>7971705Blame those two text encoders, worst idea ever
>>7971705maybe not enough pictures without the clothes?kinda hard to swap clothes anyway, getting naked works fine but the og clothe are kinda burned in
>>7971711i should probably mix in the new outfits my vtuber just got then
>>7971705it's a sign it's starting to be friedhonestly if you don't have a lot of fanart you should consider making a synthetic part to your dataset by genning out of distribution (style, body type, clothes)
>>7971705as other anon says it's fried
>>7971717FATbox please?
>>7971717oh shit another laimu, yeah i'm tryin to train my own laimu with mostly stream screencaps and a handful of fanart
>>7971728https://files.catbox.moe/aie6cv.pngold ef+hll since that lora is very compatible>>7971730it's not pony thoughbut you can try genning base images with ef+hll with random artists, take the best ones, upgrade them using your current pony lora, and use that in your dataset
>>7971733i'll try and scrape in more fanarts if i can find high quality ones, have to get the new outfits in there too
it's so over for NAI https://civitai.com/models/418002/giantess-size-difference-concept-pony?modelVersionId=465674
Drunk hags are cute.
>>7971375>>7971376>>7971380Min SNR 5:https://files.catbox.moe/ce7to7.pngDebiased Estimation Loss:https://files.catbox.moe/lwm6ab.pngI think Debiased is the clear winner here, at least for my settings.
>>7971745what settings though? as i mentioned i think min snr gamma 5 bad
BREAD>>7971609>>7971609>>7971609
>>7971678>everyone who wants already has itMeds.
>>7970397that is not a upscaler
>>7971160the most immediate advantage i saw using a refiner like ponymagine for autism was cleaning up eyes and forehead region
>>7971318hehehe lovin itcan we get some boxo-shirow-catto?
