DLsite knelt down to credit card companies and now they are removing 3DCG worksDLsite also chose to delete works to preserve credit card channels, and all mainstream hentai websites in Japan were spared.
very bad /thread
>>7986571Now all Japanese hentai websites are kneeling down to the credit card companies
>>79865713DCG is trash.
>bowed down to credit card companiesdisappointing, I'm tired of ameriprudes having a stranglehold over commerce>and hit 3DCGin that area, nothing of value was lost
>>7986571Goodless hyper realistic grossness to sift through
>>7986571the foot is now in the door. big age of censorship is coming
>>7986571Last realistic-styled game by ILLUSION that I cared for was AG3, so I don't see a problem if they (ILLGAMES) go full anime-style from now on. Can't care less about cunt-eyed goblinas
>>7986571Do you think they are hitting all these sites because they are trying to precondition them for AI scraping/training? And just hiding their intentions behind the moral panic?
>>7986733>in that area, nothing of value was lostKenzsoft and Umemaro have some solid works,NOOOOOOOOO
>>7986699Is not about what they got rid of if about what they achieved, today is the 3DCG, later the Loli, rape, etc.
>>7986571they should nuke AI generated stuff too.
>>7987341From what I read in one of the other thread, they are nuking 3D Loli and possibly Shota, not 3D in general.
>>7986699>First they came.jpg
Is it over for PIXIV too?
>>7987316Not the animation ones
>>7986571Fanza/DMM and Fantia still allow that right?
>>7986571At any other time if they had said we are moving away from 3DCG to focus more on 2D stuff as our site was originally intended that would have been fine but everyone knows very well the only reason they are now removing all of it after more than a decade of it being allowed on the site is to appease American creditors (that will never return to their site anyway) and that makes them the biggest cucks ever. No backbone whatsoever. It is not even illegal in their own country. This whole CC drama has really made me realize how much of a colonial post WW2 loser mentality a lot of Japanese still have where they give priority to laws and moral standards of Western countries over their own. This is just the tip but now that they've made the decision to actually remove content from their site expect more in the future. That's how Getchu started back in 2017-2019 before ultimately nuking their whole site. >>7992767Yes still all there.
Funny you can make the most immoral hyper realist work out there then slap an anime nose on it and all of sudden it is completely fine. Stupid policies
>>7992734phew, thanks
>>7993184>Cut your dick, goy
>>7994714>do it in the hospital we own>use hormones we produce
>>7986733>in that area, nothing of value was lost>t. AI slop consumer
Cryptocurrency unironically solves this. Why can't they set up a fucking ETH wallet so I can purchase shit with it already.
>>7995495cuz all you fucking retards use it as an investment instead of just another currency.
>>7995610>nooo don't get rich from my crypto I want to buy porn with it instead
>>7987299I don't see why 3DCG wouldn't be able to also be used for AI training. Artists works are so varied that it wouldn't really affect it honestly. From the slim lolis to the hyperbusty furries to the gore to the zoophiles, there's too much variation to want to attempt to limit it to 2D for the sake of training.>>7992731Pixiv has currently added "locations". If you're in the US or UK, loli and stuff are disabled by default to view. If you set your location to any other country it's fine. Conceivably it's because you could realistically be in another country and just using a proxy for some legit reason but also be a pervert still.>>7996210because until they sell it back for fiat currency it's worth zero yen to them.>buy work for 500 yen in buttcoin>before the weekly "sell all butts for fiat" event the price crashes and they only get 5 yenI'm no fan of fiat or the federal reserve either but it's just not feasible to many stores.Not even adding to the fact that Japan is still using fax machines and filled with boomers who don't understand how to even begin using it. I mean I'm young and I don't get it either. I still can't figure out what makes it any different than tulips or beanie babies. Rather than shit on it though I just avoid saying anything about it, aside from pointing out reasons other people may not want to use it.
>>7997982>If you're in the US or UK, loli and stuff are disabled by default to viewThis is not true, it seems to block some content but I have no idea what.
>>7987341>LoliEveryone knows what that means. You're not avoiding a watch list, also you're already on one. And it's rape and never consensual, you fucking retarded nonce.
>>7993098Reminds me of this
>>7998099the gross realistic 3dcg stuff
>>7998416>also you're already on oneWhy zoomers like yourself think unironically that people give a fuck about being in that list?
>>7998746Why do you think you're an oldfag if you sperg out of Zoomers? Why are you pretending we can't see you're a Zoomer when you're illiterate and use Zoomie slang?Why are you saying you don't care about being put on a list when you think using that word to substitute child will let you evade that list?
>>7998837That's because he's a retarded newfag
>>7998837Yes, yes, I'm on the list, now what?
>>7987299of course. they are worried about transfer learning.transfer learning is a machine learning technique where a model developed for a particular task is reused as the starting point for a model on a second task.if you put 3dcg through either a pure 3d or pure 2d model it would learn features from the 3dcg dataset. trouble is, this is very expensive to do. so what they are trying to protect against is unknown. the most reasonable explaination is they want to chip away at these sites over time, without 3dcg something else sits at the top as extremely immoral, that 'something else' will be the next to go.
>>7986571Why don't they pull a DMM or Fanza?>>7986648>all
>>8001302DLSite's percentage of foreign money/income/customers might be higher.
Where tf do I go for 3DCG now? Dlsite is the most popular, I don't want to go to 5 different sites for that content now. That and now I don't know what got removed, I hope its only 3DCG and they don't do anything more stupid in the future.
DLsite took down the loli 3D stuff. How come the credit card option hasn't returned then?
>>8004702>hmm, 1 item out of how many?
>>8004702Because this is only the first of many things the credit card companies want purged.I actually lived long enough to see judeo-america destroy a niche culture I likedI hope their entire shit country descends into south american tier savagery. I want to see obese pasty americans in cartel execution videos.
>>7986571I think banning 3dcg loli and shota is fine but all 3dcg? It looks like dog shit so im not missing it but this for sure a domino effect waiting to happen.
So, what're some of your backup plans for the time being?
>>8008041I've downloaded enough porn to last the rest of my life. And I'm learning to make MMDs so if all else fails I can eventually make my own
are they nuking AI generated things too?
>>7993184>>7994714>>7994749Stop falling for dumb /pol/ bait or at the very least, keep it out of /h/.
>>7998418Why are you obsessed in fictional character age? sus
>>8009284>just stop noticing things, goy!I prefer to believe the Xitter with the anime profile
>>8009291You can go on the archive of the website containing the sponsors and see they are not there. https://archive.li/zraThGo be a useful idiot elsewhere. We're here to cum and bitch about our porn being taken away.
We need to contain the (((anglo))) menace and to do that, we need to build language barriers, barriers so big and complex that no normalfag or soccer mom would bother translating, it is the only way to keep our freedom.
Any buyfags here own a 3D work that got delisted? Is it still able to be downloaded the same way the delisted Illusion games can still be downloaded if you bought it? I bought a rape game that hasn't been delisted but got its title censored, and the game shows the completely uncensored title in my library lmao.
>>8009313>No Israel flagAs always kikes laying low
Assuming they don't bend the knee to credit card companies, if I'm a foreigner and I want to buy from DLSite, what options would I have to pay them? Or would I have to resort to going to Japan, opening a bank account there (I know it's not that easy and there's a whole set of hurdles but assume I can clear all of that), and using that?How are DMM/Fantia/other Japanese r18 material hosting sites handling the credit card issue? Or do they just not allow foreigners? If it's the latter, what options do foreigners have if they want to buy r18 products from their site?
>>8011654DMM has a foreigner IP block that you can get around with a VPN. Supposedly they still take foreign credit cards, I have a beef with them so I don't know. If they did or do block those, you can buy DMM point gift cards online from Playasia or similar stores.DLsite's current options are to go to the buy points page and either click their link to DLpay, an off-site service that lets you buy DLsite points as digital gift card codes emailed to you. DLpay accepts Paypal and supposedly Amazon Pay. You can also buy DLsite points right on DLsite if you pay with Bitcash, a Japanese gift card that you can also buy on Playasia or similar stores. Bitcash requires you to copypaste or type a code in made up of hiragana. Playasia lets you copypaste it if I remember right, but other places may or may not do that, so you'd need to type those or OCR it yourself if they don't offer you to copy the code.I don't know what the current status of buying from BOOTH is since the foreigner regionlocking scare, but I assume worst case scenario you could either do gift card bullshit again or you could try ordering through a proxy service like japanrabbit (formerly whiterabbitexpress). Proxy services were already fairly heavily used for physical doujinshi and games from places like Toranoana, Melonbooks, Suruga-ya, Yahoo auctions, etc. so no real hit there. I can't speak for enty (?), cien, Fanbox, or any other Patreon-type subscriptions, nor of Digiket. I assume with Getchu bending the knee, they might offer something again for foreigners but the selection might get really grim if these payment processors push as hard as Steam's policies for visual novels.
>>7998454>bbbbbut muh morality!KYS
>>7986571Didn't credit cards always try to keep their distance from porn?
It's not jews, it's evangelicals. They want to ban all porn in 2025.
>>7995474>projecting3D is shit, anon.
>>8018426Your opinions are shit.
>>8015684he said gross, not immoral
>>8008114where does one even start with mmd stuff? is it all blender/similar based?
>>8019593download MMD, find some models, stages, motions and effects and hit play, you'll need to read/watch some tutorials thoughblender is only needed for the more advanced model edits or creating new models, in most cases the simpler MMD-specific PMXEditor is sufficient, such as for grafting bobs and vagene onto a model that doesn't have them (if you're already proficient with blender it may be easier to do there though)anyway the MMD thread on /e/ has a list of resources
>>8019593>>8019829What MMD stand for?
>>8019863mikomikodouga
>>8019877Ty
>>8018395Looks good for them, considering the polls.
>>8018395>It's not jewsNice try.
>>8018395It's both, retard.Bill Ackman is pro-NCOSE
>>8009828The tranny says this in Anglo on an Anglo website using Anglo technology
>>8009290Why are you self projecting, pedo?
>>8018395This
>>7998416so here's what I need you to do.get some painter's plastic/tarps, lay that all around your room including the ceiling.Now, I need you to take a shotgun, load it with a slug, frangible preferably, and then put the barrel in your mouth and pull the trigger.
>>8008029It's because a lot of artists don't tag their content appropriately.This way, nothing evades the wipe.
>>8019593Also, KoiKatsu cards + mods.There's several threads all-around the site about it, from /vt/ to /h/ and /d/ to an extent.
>>8018395It's both American parties my dude.They just divide efforts to make it look like it's unilateral when in reality it's a bipartisan pact of sorts.
>>8018395This is the truth no matter how much anti-Semites seethe about it. I'm not a fan of Israel, but it's the Evangelicals that support it and push for censorship.
>>8046464So is Ackman evangelical or not?
>>8046464Do you know why organizations like the UN are so against """fictional CP"""? Because its existence lowers the demand for child prostitution.Source: a guy who worked with UNICEF
>>7992734Just image sets?
>>7986571Surprised this isnt a big news.3DCG still allowed on dlsite : https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/works/genre/=/genre/509But realistic 3DCG are gone now. Especially Loli ones. All 3DCG Loli is absolutely gone now.Only Anime/Cartoonic 3CDG still remainhttps://www.dlsite.com/maniax/fsr/=/language/jp/sex_category[0]/male/work_category[0]/doujin/order/trend/genre_and_or/and/genre[0]/207/genre[1]/509/options_and_or/and/options[0]/JPN/options[1]/ENG/options[2]/NM/options_not[0]/AIG/from/fs.detail
>>8046464>t. jewCould you be more obvious?
>>8058663>jews can't be evangelicals because uhhh
>>7986733>ameriprudes having a stranglehold over commerceWho owns all the big American porn sites, again?
>>8009284>genetic fallacyYou aren't that smart.
Pixiv just updated it's terms of service again.Not read them yet, but I'm going to indulge myself into this horror right now.I mean, it's going to be bad.
>>8062588The newest revision listed is from April, no idea if it's that one.This change is a bit worrying:"When registering User's country or region of residence, User shall register User's own true, accurate, and current information."It seems to be from April, however. Did they forget to ad the new terms?Still, could be a preparation for blocking people from certain content more effectively.
>>8062594It's propably big, considering that they made a banner to draw your attention.
>>8062594Forget the country thing, this revision was indeed added late April. Of course I was fully aware of this, just forgot that they changed the rules, too, so no change here, and the cheeky "set your own region" still applies.I was just confused because nothing newer got listed.Did they forget the new terms?
I couldn't give 3 shits about the new rules an no one else should either, If they start banning americans then we'll fire up vpns make new accounts and keep getting art.
>>8062588>>8062594Stop demoralizing you retards shit was bad enough already.
>>8062588Pixiv will start purging AIslop and questionable imagesFanbox is already a walled gardenPatreoniggers banned a few Blender/SFM coom animators a day or so ago and only the big ones got reinstatedThe future will be Fantia for Nips (no Paypal, removed Alipay (kek) and no more Western cards) and Subscribestar for every big creator out there (enjoy getting your payment info blacklisted because you browsed Kemono kek)
>>8063441>Pixiv will start purging AIslop and questionable imagesWere does it say this?They announce some big changes coming August, but they're not in the pdf they link.
>>7986571How would you combat that? Crypto payments and withdrawal through exchanges like Binance?
>>8063441Wait Subscribestar really bans your payment if you've been to or uploaded to kemono?
>>8063441>Pixiv will start purging AIslop...source? The most recent info I can find is from like a year ago when they specifically said they were going to allow them, for now, so long as they're tagged as such.
>>8064011Only the latter.
>>8063441Fantia will not gonna survive if they only rely on TokyoOtakuMode with severely inflated price currency for coins
>>8062588>>8062594I believe the change is noted at the top of the Japanese language version of the notice, but it appears the new wording is in the English version too, it's article 19-2 (which doesn't exist in the current on-site guidelines) and unsurprisingly it's about payments. It says if you use a credit card you have to use Stripe Inc cards, which is visa/mastercard etc but also JCB and Amex. I mean, this was already the case so I don't even see what they mean by this unless something's getting dropped (paypal maybe and it just goes right to card..?). It also cryptically says if you pick credit card among 'payment methods available', and the only other way to pay a Fanbox is through that weird thing Japan does where you can buy shit through a convenience store. Wouldn't surprise me if Pixiv is figuring out some kind of new points system as a backup solution, in case Visa says people can't buy Pixiv Premium with their cards anymore.
>>8064348Pixiv already made their own version of dlsite coins / tora coins.
>>8064011BothIt's been ages since the Subscribestar uploader on kemono was fully working
>>8064011If you've been or scraped to Kemono they check for cookies if you've done so and log it back to them, it's highly illegal shit.Your card holder name, cards, IP and machine name also get blacklisted so even if you buy a prepaid debit card you'll still get blacklisted.The only way around it is to use a different card holder name, a different card you haven't used on Subscribestar, a new Subscribestar account in a freshly installed OS with a VPN. The worst part of it all is that their support sucks and they never respond to emails.
>>8064498If you visit kemono only its still fine right ?
>>8064512Some claim they're fine even if they've browsed Kemono while others claim they can't renew their subscriptions anymore and their cards keep getting rejected when they just browsed Kemono.What a shitshow lel, no Paypal because they're retarded, only Visa/Mastercard and they're wonky on some debit/virtual cards. Not even Patreon or Fanbox will ban users who scraped to third party sites and they have the most users. Fanbox will just inform the creator that one of their subscribers have suspicious activity that may involve scraping/piracy and they leave it to the person to ban him personally.
dmm fanza now stopped visa payments despite the website is now being japan only lmao
>>8064498That's not even physically possible anymore due to how both Chrome and Firefox's sandbox works nowadays. Sites can only read their own cookies and same-origin.
>>7986733>First they came for the 3d
>>8064498Just use private mode when logging in, what the fuck?
>>8064348They kinda dropped PayPal already, if you're not grandfathered in you can't use it anymore.Maybe they'll drop it for good.Or maybe they're just formally covering some legal stuff that for once has nothing to do with the current tragedy.Personally I hope PayPal remains available for as long as possible for older users.
>>8064498>it's highly illegal shit.Wasn't there some huge thing in the EU because of shit like this a while back?But honestly, this is beyond retarded.Banning people who scraped and leaked? The methods are illegal, but the basic morality I can understand at least.But only visiting Kemono? A pirate site so big that a ton of people are likely going there without really thinking too much about what that is? Just imagine someone linking it here on /h/, "dude, you can find that stuff here: link" and bang, you're banned for life on subscripestar!That's the "ban everyone with redditcookies" some assholes always spout whenever improvements for 4chan are being discussed are so retarded.>>8064793Thank fucking god. And kemono doesn't allow user uploads, for good reasons I guess, I would trust subscripestar to leak material with some malware attached, when you're so evil that you punish people for just visiting some website, that's not much of a further step.
You dont fucking get banned for visiting Kemono only you retards. They only ban you if you scrapped their website. I have confirmed this
>>8064236>surviveI'd be surprised if westerners make up more than like 5% of their revenueThe reason you see all these jap companies cave in with little resistance is that to the vast majority of their audience it's just a mild inconvenience
>>8065530Wrong. Gaijins were 50% of their fanbase. Some artists were complaining they lost half of their income because of Visa Mastercard ban
>>8043123No, that's what you need to do, you pedo retarded newfag.
>>8046464You're a fucking retard.Not being a Zionist doesn't make you an anti"semite".Zionism itself is anti"semitism".Most Zionists in the West are Christian who believe putting every Jew in Palestine will bring back Jesus who will kill all Jews.
>>7986733It's because of retards like you that they are able to incrementally ban everything.>well I don't care because so far they have only banned things I don't care ab->OH NO THEY STARTED BANNING THE THINGS I LIKE NOW WHY DOES NOBODY DO ANYTHINGYour passivity is what these faggots are counting on.
>Visa Master card thread>Muh Jews>Guaranteeed 500+ Replies>Cant provide a solution to the actual problem. >Repeat
>>8065539You area) cherrypicking artists who are big with gaijin andb) conflating the larger short-term loss from payments getting stuck right after the announcement with the smaller long-term loss from people with no other payment methods available
>>8066005>Web traffic is accurate measurement for people who paylol
>>8066007when there's nearly no free content it's a good approximation
>>8066007>>8066060On top of that nips are more likely to be paying customers due to their whole "pirating porn is shamefur dispray" moralfag attitude, as well as having more convenient ways to pay.If anything I suspect web traffic underestimates how much of Fantia's revenue is domestic.
>>8066007You've been hanging around all these threads making the same claims again and again. Who are you trying to fool?
>>8066646himself, probably
>>8066812>>8066005>>8066007>>8066060>>8066221All me btw
>>8066221I doubt pirates would affect fantia's traffic much given they can't get anything from the site itself
>>8065940>>Cant provide a solution to the actual problem.I can think of at least one.
https://www.xbiz.com/news/282175/anti-pornhub-attorney-expands-strategy-to-name-and-shame-finance-companiestldr conservatives are targeting visa, mastercard and others for supporting pornhub. This could snowball into a general porn ban in the near future.
>>8067474A fair amount of western porn sites have already adopted crypto. They are much better prepared for when Visa/MasterCard goes scorched earthYou're seeing the final years of credit card companies having dominance in online transactions, anyways. Digital currency issued by central banks is right around the corner, and most certainly everyone will be looking to accept them just because the transaction fees are bound to be less. Only thing a credit card will be needed for in a decade will be for debt spending
>>8067645Japanese platforms with access to JCB and a dozen other local options (such as PayPay, Line Pay, Bitcash, and so on, just take a loot at the list of payment options for something like DLsite) are largely in far better shape than Western platforms that would be entirely reliant on crypto in the event that Mastercard/Visa/Amex were to drop support.
>>8065432Is it just for using kemono scrapper or using any like gallery-dl?
>>8067645>Digital currency issued by central banks is right around the cornerIt's cute that you think this will be any different than the CC companies.
>>7986571oh fcking americans, i hope you get mugged when you go abroad
Interesting that things like rape are problematic but cuckolding isn't. Really interesting.
bump
>>8067645>Digital currency issued by central banks is right around the corner,This should NOT happen. This is a fucking power grab and easily manipulatable, just like digital sales tag shit at Wal-Shart which will eventually lead into surge pricing.
Gumroad is now also really serious about deleting NSFW material. They have been somewhat lenient so far.
>>8067474Why can't such people just get sudden heart attacks? He's old for fucks sake!Also, what if Visa/MasterCard ignored him? It's not like offended normalfags have much options and if a lawsuit came up, the money spend on winning this is likely less than the money earned by porn payments. "Reputation"? Give me a break. You're heartless capitalists, act like it for once! Just do it like the oil corpos and say "I'm sorry!" when something happens. Again, people have no fucking choice but to rely on CC companies. They're basically almost as powerful as oil companies.
>>7986571>3DCGAnd nothing of value was lost.
Fantia just banned EU lol
>>7986571The world needs an independent payment system that is powerful enough to hold their own strength and be ideologically opposed to the current elite one.
How is Fakku evading this when they sell the same shit? Is Daiz giving them free blowjobs?
>>8067474I should have known LA or San Francisco would be involved.I swear almost every terrible man made thing in the world has ties to those two cities.
>>8088358and we're back
