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Previous Thread: >>8112824

>LOCAL WEBUI SETUP
https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/wiki
Optimizations *NEW*
https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/pull/15821
https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/pull/15837
https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/pull/15824

>LOCAL FORGEUI
Maintained branch:
https://github.com/lllyasviel/stable-diffusion-webui-forge/tree/dev2

>LOCAL COMFYUI
https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUI
https://comfyanonymous.github.io/ComfyUI_examples/
https://openart.ai/workflows/templates

>LOCAL MODELS
https://civitai.com/models/257749/
https://civitai.com/models/288584/
https://gitgud.io/gayshit/makesomefuckingporn (use Wayback Machine) *OLD*

>PAID
NovelAI: https://rentry.org/hdg-nai-v3
NAI API/prompting in A1111: https://github.com/Metachs/sdwebui-nai-api

>RESOURCES
Features: https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/wiki/Features
Training: https://rentry.org/59xed3 | https://github.com/derrian-distro/LoRA_Easy_Training_Scripts | https://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainer
Tags: https://danbooru.donmai.us/wiki_pages/tag_groups | https://danbooru.donmai.us/related_tag
ControlNet: https://rentry.org/dummycontrolnet
IOPaint (LamaCleaner): https://huggingface.co/spaces/Sanster/iopaint-lama | https://www.iopaint.com/install
Booru: https://aibooru.online
4chanX Catbox/NAI prompt userscript: https://rentry.org/hdgcb
Pony-related: https://rentry.org/ponyxl_loras_n_stuff | https://rentry.org/ponyxl_lora_previews | https://lite.framacalc.org/4ttgzvd0rx-a6jf
EF+HLL: https://rentry.org/5exa3 *OLD*
Animation: https://rentry.org/AnimAnon *OLD*

OP Template/Logo: https://rentry.org/hdgtemplate/raw | https://files.catbox.moe/xk99gy.png | https://files.catbox.moe/35bdt5.gif

>Related
>>>/aco/sdg
>>>/g/sdg
>>>/g/ldg
>>>/d/ddg
>>>/e/edg
>>>/u/udg
>>>/vt/vtai
>>>/vg/aids
>>>/b/degen
>>>/trash/sdg
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>>8115919
/h/?
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WHHHHHHHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY KOHYA I WILL KILL YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
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how can i get the metadata (prompts) from an NAI gen posted on twitter? is it possible?
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>>8115925
>kohya
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reply to this post with a gen you liked but never plan on fixing up
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When will the OP get updated
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>>8115915
So then, how would you train a lora of a character with two distinct outfits, in both of which she's wearing a skirt?
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What does --network_module = lycoris.kohya mean exactly? I don't think I've seen it in either trainer's UI. It's also listed as having value `networks.lora` on another Lora

Also what does it mean when a Lora says it had a learning rate of 1 (when I'm expecting it to be like 0.0003)?
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>>8115929
flat and fat
requires plap correction
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>>8115926
If the file doesn't have metadata then you can;t.
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Does anyone use OneTrainer on 8gb of VRAM? I am curious how it would preform.
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>>8115931
never
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>>8115932
with tokens. like that anon said that's not really what the text encoder is for.
you should train it anyways though it makes things look better.
>>8115933
it's the internal name for lycoris locon with sd-scripts and maybe other trainers
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>>8115932
Anon the TE already knows the meaning of the words "green shirt" and "purple jacket". In fact it knows most concepts you can think of, and does not need to be re-trained to understand them.
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>>8115915
>And as for concept loras: what do you need a trigger for? You load the lora, and it applies the concept. What purpose does the activation tag serve? You don't use them for style loras when it's the same shit.
The difference being you want a style to be applied image-wide (always?), while a concept can be targeted to one area/character using regional prompt.
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>>8115942
are you still using 1.5 models?
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>>8115944
No you miss my point. I'm saying what happens when a character is wearing two distinctly different leotards but they're both tagged as leotard? How will it learn which leotard is which?
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>>8115931
wydi
i mean i can trim it down with an anon or two for fun but i won't be baking it
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>>8115925
what settings
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>>8115947
How do YOU know which one is which? You tag them accordingly.
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Disabling the integrated extension and installing it fresh from https://github.com/jtydhr88/sd-canvas-editor fixed it. Maybe just drop all the integrated support. Most of them are outdated anyway
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>>8115930
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>>8115942
That's cute
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>>8115951
What you're suggesting results in clothing bleed.
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>>8115931
https://rentry.org/85umcpm5
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vibin'
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>>8115946
EF+HLL is still a great option for VRAMlets
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how do you stop forge couple or regional from shredding image quality?
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>>8115318
Holy SHIT this is what a full unet finetune does, what the fuck?
https://files.catbox.moe/5ro9ds.png
No one told me you can just throw shit at it and it will work
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>>8115965
What does that mean? Is it good?
If so gib config too.
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>>8115965
i can't do full, vramlet
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>>8115930
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>>8115971
How is there no upside down lora to fix the hair yet?
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>>8115967
It's using the exact same settings as in the min_snr_gamma=5 except all the unet layers trained, it converges twice as fast and it does not look like shit anymore
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>>8115911
I like Rukia too but jannies hate flatties....
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>>8116001
the drawing is too high quality, please shit it up a little bit
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>>8115939
I asked in the previous thread but I'm gonna ask again here since it was past dead when I posted.

How do I into barcodes?
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>>8116006
prompt barcode tattoo
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>>8116001
Box me for style though I like how crispy it is.
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>>8115965
Alright what is the additional parameters flag you type in so I can test this? --train_unet_only?
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>>8116006
it's kinda cursed but unironically smeadyn makes the most coherent and consistent barcodes i've seen. prompt barcode tattoo, the the location, and neg out conflicts e.g. heart tattoo, etc.
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>NAI leak: oct 6 2022
>First Lora tech released: feb 7 2023
>First controlnet released: march 8 2023
>Based64: april 6, 2023
182 days
>Pony v6 release: jan 7 2024
>Today, july 23 2024
198 days
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>>8116006
i learned how to read barcodes by eyes alone thanks to a tremendous amount of autism. just make something barcode looking and call it a day, it keeps weird fucks like me in check
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>>8115991
Can you link it pretty please? I can't see them
>>8116011
182 days - 1151 shitmixes
198 days - one true model
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>>8116009
>train_unet_only
This and also algo='full', preset='full', had to lower batch size
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>>8116007
>>8116010
Thanks! I've tried just prompting "barcode" and the results were always bad.
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>>8115980
thats not a swimsuit...
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>>8116011
Imagine if we didnt get pony tho
Grim
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>>8116017
you actually want to neg out normal barcodes e.g. label, sign to help the CLIP
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maybe im retarded but aside from filtering out the material that loses them money (such as, cunny), what is actually required to make a checkpoint like pony hardware wise? surely its not that special right?
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>>8116016
need the metadata for this so bad sir
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>>8116026
the hardware's not the problem
it's the hundred tries you have to do to get good at it that's the problem
because you get midwits like WD burning thousands of dollars otherwise
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>>8116028
so if the issue isnt hardware, just the hundreds of tries, then what is the problem beyond filtering and testing? it seems to me like my autism would fit in well with this considering i already work on data scales greater than half a petabyte daily
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>>8116034
because that hardware costs lol and most people will do it by cloud which racks up hundreds of dollars per try
and that is also why some started coping and trying to train on their own hardware
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>>8116011
and also
>Based64: april 6, 2023
>NAIv3: november 15, 2023
223 days
so only 30 more days until we get a new breakthrough, trust the plan
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>>8116011
>182 days to get a mid slopmix
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>>8116026
astralite has 120k+ worth of hardware
if you have at least that much money then sure, it's not "that special"
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Next big model will be some high lr finetune of sd3. Will have all the style and lora training problems that pony has, but people will still use it because it can do quadruple penetration out of the box
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>>8116028
neggles gets free compute from xer job so they're not actually spending money on their experiments
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>>8115472
>>8115746
>install a separate patch to scale the text encoder separately (independently of lr=1)
Where I can find it?
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>>8115965
Sirs config prease
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>>8116035
i dont see why it would be necessary to rely on cloud solutions beyond trying to speed it up, but thats all it would do. personally trying to make it trained on their own hardware would be better. the problem is very straightforward, but it sounds like people are impatient with this.

i will also admit its practicality is laughable if you try to do it yourself, but its just one of those things you learn along the way. a threadripper board with a few MI100 cards and the bridge connector could be had for cheap, would be marginally better than some stuff out there for comparable costs. downside is it would be AMD and that makes it harder but if youre patient it would still give you a speedup.

>>8116040
i operate on a budget of next to 0 dollars which is probably why im not understanding the problem as well. im cheap and patient, but if done right it would be more cost effective and practical. i tend to not work with large gpu arrays, im more of a storage guy so my immediate thought is "its not like its hard to build some arrays of machines with some compute cards, power might be a difficult factor but its not impossible"
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>>8116047
There's the thing of being smart enough for this and having the hardware meaning you probably aren't going to bother with making shitty tunes for coomers desu
Furfags did it but they run the world so
ML isn't easy tech, most people struggle to bake a lora and that's kiddie stuff
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>>8116047
bro nobody gives a shit about autism or patience
produce 120k+ worth of compute and then we can talk
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>>8116027
it's NAI
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>>8116008
https://files.catbox.moe/hu255t.png
same artists (forma del nai)
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>>8116049
seeing as my expertise is more storage, would it be worth looking into more effective data storage solutions for safetensors? this might be a weird one but have you ever thought about how huggingface or civitai are storing/hosting all these models? im sure theyre doing a good job on the backend but i feel like thered be better methods to this. models being large isnt a problem its more those who use local probably face a legitimate size problem

>>8116052
but you dont need 120k worth of hardware to do this is the point
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>>8116057
As far as I know, you can't really compress the jumble that is ML output code
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>>8116057
storage is like 100th on the list of the most important things you need to train a model, it's literally all about compute
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>>8116059
>he doesn't realize moving 10M pics around requires a database
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making an OC lora out of 1 image is a pain in the ass
i've worked myself up to 13 images and the new lora can finally do more poses and styles
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>>8116057
if you have the perfect dataset and the perfect settings you can train it on a single 3090. That's exactly the plan jordach follows
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My approach is entropic-if it was as easy as ideas guys say, it would've been done already
Reality is 99% of FOSS ML is held up by the dozen people who actually know this shit and nobody else
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>>8116058
i have some custom tooling that i feel might aid slightly but i havent actually bothered since i need a large enough dataset and i dont immediately have several hundred tb to spare quite right now. a few months yes but not at the moment so a scale-focused solution is more my angle here
>>8116059
you would still need to store the input data for that compute
>>8116064
i do not have such a dataset im more trying to find where i can help and compute definitely isnt it given the speed people want to operate under. but storage for the data going in/results coming out i do believe i have expertise in
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>>8116045
https://github.com/konstmish/prodigy/pull/19
might need to adapt the TE detection for SDXL TE dimensions, add a print statement on the tensor shape + name I guess.
after that pass te_scale to the optimizer
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>>8116064
sure, you can train it on a single 3090 if you're willing to wait 8 months per attempt that isn't even guaranteed to work
>>8116066
>you would still need to store the input data for that compute
well duh, what i'm telling you is that this is one of the single least relevant components of training a model
>im more trying to find where i can help and compute definitely isnt it
then you can't help at all
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Don't worry lads, wdV is coming any day now!
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>>8116074
>then you can't help at all
considering most people are avoiding AMD solutions, i can tell. Nvidia is clearly superior but its not like you cant get an equally good setup on AMD for cheap
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>>8116066
You can
>scrape boorus, kemono, sadpanda, etc
>Create a new unified anime/hentai dataset
>Come up with a new more detailed tagging standart
>Manually tag enough images to train a tagging model on
But that would be a monumental undertaking
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>>8115962
I'm not even a vramlet and still prefer it for certain things.
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did Cyberrealistic Pony get nuked? says there's a new version on civitai but it 404s
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>>8116076
who fucking cares about wdV
stay in that trooncord and don't post here again
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>>8116074
Jordach has the perfect training settings and dataset. He will succeed first try. Trust me bro
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>>8116078
the last one i definitely wouldnt do but the first 3 i could do. the third being the one id do a shit job at but could still do. i once mirrored all of rule34 for fun but that was years ago
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>>8116083
well he already made Nai obsolete according to himself so its only up from here
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>>8116082
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>8116015
Couldn't get it to start with this. For anyone else interested in trying this on the kohya_ss GUI it's
>--network_train_unet_only
in additional parameters.
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>>8116071
>tfw when no adult female that sits on your lap so you can sniff her hair
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>>8116071
yea
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>>8116008
Bea sure loves her protein.
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>>8116071
>tfw people couldnt even do a lora for sitting on lap and Nai do it out of the box
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>60 denoisings
>detail refuses to work well
>trash the entire gen out of frustration
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>>8116071
Can you make a few more of these (preferably with different characters) so I have some more pics for the lora?
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>>8116093
Just
Inpaint
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>>8116091
wtf is that monster high face
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>>8116095
Yes that was what I meant
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>>8116096
sakimichan
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>>8116071
Holy that is a lot of inpainting comparing this and the 4+4chan version kek.
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>>8116094
I can try later, its very gacha
>>8116100
yeah, looking at it a few days later I felt compelled to correct some tings
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>>8116099
ew
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>>8116104
>its very gacha
No worries. Thanks anyway.
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>>8116087
I'm not even sure why everyone want my config, I'm just trying to convert arti to vpred+ztsnr and what I'm doing is the same as a simple unet dreambooth except it's done via lycoris.
Now I understand why astrakike didn't like loras though, if you pick wrong layers to train, no matter how much shit you lose you won't get a good lora.
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>all of this experimenting i did for styles
>dora, rawr, lycoris, locon
>didn't give me anything that simply adding an activation tag to my regular script didn't blow out of the water completely
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>>8116072
>might need to adapt the TE detection for SDXL TE dimensions, add a print statement on the tensor shape + name I guess.
So it's incompatible with xl for now? Any thoughts how to adapt it for big encoder?
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>>8116090
Pokemon training is expensive.
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>>8116116
Just use 1girl as an activation tag then
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>>8116122
Anon
"activation tag" means a separate tag to tag with, it's not some special property you set in training
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>>8116122
Activation tag is just a unique token you set to call on the features of the LORA you just trained. This is why you leave it out on Style LORAs so its active at all times
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>>8116120
Catbox pls, it looks both odd and hilarious
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>>8116125
why so many people add an activation tag on styles loras on civitai
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>>8116125
>>8116123
Was thinking of something else then my bad
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>>8116129
nta but well like i just said, in my case it completely mogged every other method without one, no matter what optimizer and network type
i don't know how much i'd need to fry these to get it to resemble the style without but i'll stay with
and actually i should try making a lycoris with that
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>>8116099
It's not but I can see why you'd think so
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>>8116131
Yeah the Asanagi LORA we have grown here is actually BETTER than all the ones in CivitAI as far as I can tell and that one uses and activation tag, its weird, I heard a theory its because it calls on the innate Asanagi tag of Pony, but I can't be assed to test
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>adetailer keep adding cum and penis inside the box
fucking fuck
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>>8116131
So why is anon telling us activation tags are retarded?
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Went to install Adetailer on reforge, for the life of me I can't figure out why it won't install.
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>>8116126
Kinda worthless cleaning my wildcards.
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>>8116135
I mean, just prompt asanagi without any lora, even if its just 30% there its still getting it closer than without
The real test would have been to make a lora with a retarded activation tag like 4san4gi
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>>8116138
A lack of ability, perchance?
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>>8116137
And why I am telling you it's good ?lol that's just ml desu
Alls I know for myself is that I tested it multiple times already and training without gives me shit results at any reasonable training timeframes, and I tried with Adam, Prodigy, Lora, Lycoris, Dora, etc etc
It wasn't like that on 1.5, I always trained without there but that's how it worked for me on Pony.
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>>8116143
Pony has a notoriously hard time adapting to Styles so you may be onto something here if an activation tag is helping ig
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>>8116141
At first I thought it was just me being retarded but it's shooting out an error code.

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>>8116144
The only thing that always throws me off is that there sometimes are good loras trained without, like that night lora. But that might just be because it's a concept not a style.
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>>8116143
>training without gives me shit results at any reasonable training timeframes
i can understand claiming that using an activation tag gives better results but if you haven't ever been able to train a good style lora without it then you might have an issue of skill
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>>8116146 me
(Which is why I went on that training test spree today, but I'm back home.)
>>8116147
I won't deny it kek but if something fixes issues of skill using one word then I'm all for it
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>>8116144
It shouldn't matter with correct training settings. Using a tag binds the style to that instead of leaving it in the "residual" that is left after all the other tags grabbed their data. Whatever training settings he's using are causing the tags to pick up a lot of noise along with their intended concept, so there is nothing left in the residual.
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>>8116149
>Whatever training settings he's using are causing the tags to pick up a lot of noise along with their intended concept
in my experience this mostly happens when your tagging is shit and the lora ends up thinking that random tags from the dataset are activation tags
this can indeed be fixed with an unique activation tag but the real way to solve the problem is to tag your stuff properly
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>>8116146
>like that night lora
That lora is such bullshit because the retard hid his info. Imagine how much confusion that knowledge would clear up.
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>>8116161
Yeah I was the one complaining
But it's probably some easiest shit ever and the guy got lucky
The sovl n64 lora for 1.5 was trained on fucking aom3 lmao
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>>8116161
too bad that's the only good lora that's ever been baked for pony and we'll never know how he did it
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That quick lycoris test bake with the tag and old setup seems promising, doesn't look like it's SIGNIFICANTLY better than regular though
More tomorrow
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does pony have controlnet models yet?
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wait so now training styles with activation tag is the new meta?
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>>8116133
>local STILL unable to generate anything like this
when will we see the light
>b-but... smeared grease
grow up
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>>8116170
no
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>>8116170
nah
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>>8116169
anytest
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>>8116169
yes
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>nai can make a blurry /aco/ mess
localtardfreeturd sisters...
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A2A \o /
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>>8116171
Ip adapter can do this, shitposter-kun
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>>8116180
Prove.
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>nai does local better than local
grim
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>>8116180
We don't have IP adapter for pony tho
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>>8116183
i'd complain about you using local as synonym for /aco/ but at this point it might as well be
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vibin'
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>>8116150
there is a gorillion variables in training already, why make it harder just to avoid inputting 1 tag
same with dims, if 32 works most of the time, why waste time training on 8/16 that might or might not work the best
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>>8116186
got a bait muncher in here today huh
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>>8116188
nyooo you shouldn't buy more hard drive space! Your loras need to be 10mb!
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>>8116189
there's a difference between bait and shitposting, newfriend
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Sup fags. Anything better than pony now? Forge still dead and abandoned? Has that been replaced or what?
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>>8116192
yeah we have NAI
ignore any naysayers
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this produced some fun visuals
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>>8116193
this
its only 25 a month for a sloppy sludge
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>>8116175
Ok I apologize for needing spoon feeding. I found what I think is anytest, but I do not understand it. Is this some all in one thing? Does it handle openpose?
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>>8116195
>recycled bait
be original
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>>8116193
That's not local is it? That's some paid wank bullshit
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>>8116193
can you even use loras with NAI ? or is this copping ?
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>>8116198
did you just go against SaaS? im gonna shit my diaper now...
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>>8116199
You can vibe with NAI and that's as good as any lora.
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>>8116190
Oh so you store all your images as BMP?
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>>8116202
Raw 32mb .pngs only sar.
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>>8116194
Anon whatever you're doing, don't post it. I don't think anyone can prepare for that kind of autism.
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>>8116201
it change the style, but can you bring niche concept in it ?
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>>8116192
reForge is the new updated forge you can just swap to it easily
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>>8116164
>>8116163
Tried contacting the guy or?
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https://files.catbox.moe/ed4gua.jpg
This is with an activation tag and after training the TE.

https://files.catbox.moe/ruks0y.jpg
This is without an activation tag and without training the TE.

I don't really see much difference or benefit so it might come down to personal preference. Having no activation tag weakens the lora as a whole which helps remove a bit of the style from the pics but also means I have to prompt things like her hair ornament which is missing in 8/9 pictures. Activation tags just make things more convenient and saves you tokens for the actual important stuff in the image rather than prompting every little feature.
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>>8116219
I would rather outfit piece be promptable instead of hard backed into it because who cares about tokens count but thats just me
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>>8116223
>who cares about tokens count
Coherency drops when you type too much stuff in.
>I would rather outfit piece be promptable
It is promptable, since I didn't prune any tags, but AI also knows what I want when I type her name it but I don't need to type her entire life story just to get her to appear correctly. It's like on NAI where you just type 2B and it knows everything about her vs your unknown waifu where half the prompt is you {{{{{strengthening}}}}} her name and typing out every feature you can remember. Everyone always preferred the former.
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>>8116208
Oh nice I'll check that out
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>>8116192
https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-reForge
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Why do my locally created Loras lack metadata (only 3 entries when clicking `i` in Automatic1111)? This is consistent across 2 different trainers.
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Serious question anons, what is it with model bakers and their cult followers being so delusional?
https://files.catbox.moe/v90pzu.png
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after trying b-lora with a character, a style and a concept i'm starting to think that it might just be shit
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>>8116238
watch wdV end up being animagine part 2
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>>8116240
>he bought the snake oil
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Astralite is the only one who actually delivered for the coomers, these other models are just memes that will amount to nothing. Shit talk him all you want, but he put in the effort to curate and caption his dataset with nsfw. Every cascade image i've seen is just 1girl standing, all the wdV preview images are 1girl standing. Animagine and arti/neta(?) are more of the same. Meanwhile, pony produces coherent gangbangs and every other degenerate concept under the sun (not even considering how well concept loras work with it). I wish others luck, but I doubt anyone will dethrone pony within the next year when it comes to NSFW - especially considering he has been working full time on the next release.
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>>8116251
absolute kino. perfection.
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>>8116238
neggles sure does a lot of yapping with nothing to show
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>>8116254
the fact that anlatan hasnt hired them yet says a lot tbhdesu
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>>8116254
Jordach called Xir out months ago and was proven right a million times over.
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Do you ever just go to civitai and wonder what the fuck?
They're infinitely weirder than /d/
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You guys still use ENSD 31337? I know it does nothing for quality but seems like a mark of old-school fags.
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>>8116259
It does nothing overall not just quality
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>>8116240
>>8116248
>ML in a nutshell
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>>8116261
Except change the image completely. Brainlet.
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>>8116252
I will unironically clap for him when he releases v7 with NAI tier object permanence and better colors. After the Ani disaster, all these retards are all talk and no bite.
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>>8116259
I still don't know what that number does but put it in that field anyways
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>>8116270
Sorry not "when" but "if." He seems to have gotten lucky with v6.
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>>8116264
>outdated tech arbitrarily used for an outdated architecture
cope a little more pal
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>>8116277
lmao this nigga has no idea what he is talking about
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>>8116278
>no peer reviewed paper
>no proof
holy retard
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>>8116275
unironically, when you're rolling the dice, faster hardware might as well be better luck. The more squares you can land on, the more likely one of them will be lucky.

And that's all training these models is.
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I cant do nursing handjob, I give up
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>>8116292
do nursing handjob with this and my life will be yours
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What do we think?
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i can do nursing handjob, i persevere
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nursing handjob from a hag............................
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no one is going to use refiner bro give up
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im refining...
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>>8116238
i started out hating astralite but now im starting to like him solely for the fact this his mere existence makes other shitbakers lose their minds. jordach and neggles have mentioned pony so many times purely out of spite. with all the shit people say about pony (the poor colors, the lack of artist tags, the completely fried TE, the broken score tags, the lackluster toonslop dataset) you'd think that making a superior model would take but a month, yet every time someone attempts it their completely fall flat and start crying about how pony was never any good anyway.
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>>8116238
it's amazing how both jordach and neggles are convinced that their dogshit prototypes are already pony killers
i fucking hate pony but these retards honestly have no right to shittalk astralite when they've never produced anything even close to it
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>>8116082
Yeah, we only shill cascade here. Jordach will save us
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guys try to space out the shill, we talked about it on discord earlier
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>>8116309
sorry sister
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>>8116306
kek we made our posts "defending" astralite from jordach and neggles at almost the same time
to be clear i still have a billion reasons for hating astralite but at least he has something to show, unlike the other local bakers
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>>8116297
just use the nursing handjob lora

https://civitai.com/models/439622
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>>8116306
Most of the shit people say about pony is exaggerated desu. I'll grant that pony on its own is rough, but like any other local model we have merges/loras/extensions/etc. Other bakers genuinely have a skill issue with using pony or are willfully deluding themselves into thinking it's worse than it is; both of which are equally hilarious. I look forward to the next pony model once again destroying the other bakers.
https://files.catbox.moe/00eiw2.png
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>>8116318
based
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>>8116317
I should have said I meant pov nursing handjob, you dont need lora for nursing handjob
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>>8116321
oh, well that's something completely different then
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>>8116318
ponyv6 was a strong innovation but had a lot of dubious head scratcher choices made and obviously wrong shit like twice-converted jpegs and primitive tag hashing
astralite may have a better core dataset, captioning, and training settings for v7, but it looks like the bad decisions are also multiplying threefold and it's honestly hard to tell which side of the scale will tilt more
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>>8116023
it would be hololive lora on whatever the furry 1.5 model was
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why must our most accomplished bakers also be the most autistic
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>>8116325
Which bad decisions in particular? I've been following his updates and he is aware of what he fucked up, seriously doubt there will be as many mistakes as the current model.
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>>8116328
but none of our bakers are accomplished and all of them are autistic
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>>8116333
you must turn towards the light, anon...
astralite is our last hope
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>>8116330
doubling down on culling artist tags and subsequent cheap hacks attempting to compensate
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lol jordach is getting his ass beat in his own discord
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>>8116330
Hashing character and artist is pretty retarded but he is proud of it so... didnt he also plan to completely remove what he didnt like from the dataset?
The quality score tag is the dumbest shit
How fried every concept and positions are, dont know if he aknowledged that
I wont bitch about the problem related to sdxl because there is too much
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>>8116294
Wouldn't claim I succeeded with it but have it anyway.
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>>8116343
Its closer to anything I got on local so yeah, you may have better success with a wide resolution
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>>8116330
did astralite ever say why he pruned 2hu characters? is it really because of some retarded personal grudge?
although pruning vtumors is based, i'll give him that
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>>8116346
you can always try a controlnet
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>>8116343
it's kino...
btw does this style still look the same without your little vibe transfer
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>>8116349
yeah im gonna do that tomorrow, cba right now
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>>8116350
>terrible colors
>generic sdxl background
>/aco/
get some taste
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>>8116354
i like it :)
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>>8116354
you cant reason with blurmongers
theyre legally blind
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>>8116342
So true anon, another baker will easily make a better model! Oh wait.
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>>8116357
cute
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>>8116350
They make a fairly big difference
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>>8116325
>ponyv6 was a strong innovation
Yeah, not using caption dropout is really innovative, just in the wrong direction
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Mean did something to fix treechan and wanted to ask if it's loading correctly or not. So if it wasn't for you check now
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>>8116395
no dice for me
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whichever anon suggested i try hidiffusion, im now confident it's better than kohya hiresfix/deep shrink
start with these settings for gens with decent number of steps, try reducing ca_end_time to 0.1 or 0 for low steps drafts or if you encounter weird noise or clutter issues, often involving stripes appearing on shit
the other node is buggy as shit
https://github.com/blepping/comfyui_jankhidiffusion
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>>8116066
>>8116058
following up on the custom tooling claim, because i wanted to actually try something. referencing what it says on huggingface here https://huggingface.co/docs/safetensors/en/index the safetensors format is standardize to a degree so this does leave some room to figure out where that actual space saving can be. the ML results stored in it are obviously too unique to each model/checkpoint which doesnt help but there is a highlight

turns out that yes they can be "compressed" slightly. pic related, left is some pile of loras and checkpoints i had, right is what the custom format outputted with my tooling. this custom format is just a very fancy kind of zip but it does, if there is any room to, shrink the size. this obviously isnt usable in any manner but 25gb on a random format that this has no optimization for is actually quite nice given the data contained within is so unique.

my immediate theory is as follows if there were any chance to shrink things to be more space-concious,
>the space savings is likely coming from the header/index that points to all the actual data, so its probably negligible
>checkpoints being as big as they are, probably isnt necessary, and is just a byproduct of being safe rather than sorry
>loras definitely dont need to be ~250mb each, they can be smaller than that by a lot, im pretty sure people are just lazy on this one
>under the explicit assumption standardizing the creation of loras were followed, it would be possible to create a "cache" of sorts that can be forever expanded, adding whatever data needed with minimal additional size required
>the structure of the safetensor format is perfectly usable in this manner, you can likely expand/add to a pile of data without breaking anything so long as you keep the offsets safe, which my tooling alread does
its definitely not something people care about, but im confident if you REALLY tried, a random pile of checkpoints and loras like mine could go down to under 30gb
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>>8116405
sorry that happened
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>>8116413
anon im just being autistic, let me have my moment. if im right there could be significant space savings across all these models and sites hosting this shit
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>>8116405
>pic related
>no pic related
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>>8116405
hey at least people are not making 800mb lora anymore
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>>8115688
Catbox, please?
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>>8116139
What's the used style here?
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>>8116420
strongly contemplating killing myself now
>>8116423
that is nice
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If you still have the last thread open, check the last 15 posts. Completely garbage. Hard to believe people complain about too many text posts when that is their fate without scrutiny
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>>8116425
1 girl, sex machine,mda tarou,
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>>8116430
What got deleted and why?
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finally getting around to making the lore accurate backgrounds lora. no more generic fantasy europe for my cat ntr or 1girls, standing
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Did that anon finish that lora, POV sitting in lap or still in progress?
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>>8116146
>like that night lora
Which Lora?
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>>8116437
>fat bastard
based
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>>8116437
>he uses his power for evil
cringe
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I'm trying to make a Lora based on screenshots of a VRChat avatar. The issue I'm having is that they're all obviously in the same style and thus the Lora is bad at taking on other styles (from other loras) while preserving the features of the character. It feels like the style of the input pictures and the features of the character are tied together, which is unsurprising.

Is there a way to get the Lora to focus on the details of the character rather than the style?
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>>8116438
he gave up
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>>8116442
what?
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>>8116443
From what other anons said and did:
>train a style lora for vrchat
>train character with it
>remove style lora
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>>8116447
Is there a guide on removing a lora? Do you mean there is a tool to 'subtract' one lora from another?
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>>8116448
you merge the style lora with the base model or use --base_weights, although that command has been broken on my end for a while.
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>>8116448
https://rentry.org/Copier_Method_Notes
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I'm trying to get into dairy farming. Does anyone know where I can buy cheap cows?
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>>8116399
and fuck, im down another rabbit hole
RAUnet may make euler SMEA dy obsolete, replaced with either euler a cfg++, euler negative, or back to regular old euler a
the SMEA version previously had distinctly better coherence than every-thing else at higher resolution base gen, but tended to make gens less dynamic from seed to seed. RAUnet may close that coherence gap.

ill have to continue testing tomorrow, work in 6 hours
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>>8116437
How are you getting non-square image outputs? I used to be able to do this with hi-res fix in Automatic1111, but ever since I switched to ComfyUI, I haven't been able to figure it out. Generating with a non-square resolution results in weird artifacts, like duplicate heads and extended limbs.
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>>8116453
Damn I appreciate the autism you have toward this, maybe if we sprinkle enough glitter on our turd it wont smell as bad
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>>8116454
that's using kohya hires fix and i use forge
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>>8116453
ill leave with this
euler a, 5 cfg, 12 steps, raunet enabled
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>>8116011
If Basedmix guy is so great why didn't he make a pony shitmix?
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>>8116460
he became a millionaire and retired with the success of b64
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>>8116451
Thanks anon, I'll give it a shot
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>>8116460
he went into psychotic break and disappeared forever
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>>8116295
unironically, either. I've gotten great results with both. like most of the other settings buried randomly within the different menus, it just produces different images. not better. just different.
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>>8116453
>>8116459
>>8116399
Is this on reforge?
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I trained a few loras with different parameters but I don't have the parameter data for my favorite one - how can I find it?
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>>8116437
>lore accurate backgrounds lora
Can you explain your process when you get a chance?
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>>8116438
>>8116444
No it works well enough on base autism but has problems with coherency with style loras. The goal would be to figure out how to make loras work better together generally, but I don't know what the night lora anon did.
>>8112295
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>>8116460
he died, he's dead I was at his funeral RIP
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>>8116480
try https://lorainfo.tools/
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>>8116487
nyo....
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>>8116481
i trained a style lora using masked xenoblade 3 characters and then took a bunch of xenoblade 3 screenshots of random scenery and trained a concept lora using that style
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>>8116489
too big
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>>8116489
not big enough
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>>8116493
>>8116495
I just love ass
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>>8116426
warashi
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>>8116460
What if basedmix guy is autismmix anon...
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>>8116460
its not great, but it marked the end of 1.5 developments and was essentially used for months to come until pony. just like pony marked the end of sdxl developments and will be used for even more months to come until we eventually get... nothing! because ai development is dead
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>>8116492
You masked the characters or the background?
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>>8116523
i trained it on only characters, no backgrounds. i wasn't planning on training a background lora so i didn't include any in the dataset.
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>>8116437
>>8116492
Nice backgrounds too.
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Neta v2 is the new king of SFW.
It's basically NAI v3 except it's bad at NSFW.
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so it's useless then
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>>8116529
For /hdg/? Yes.
But if you just want to gen nice looking images of 1girl/2girls it's amazing.
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>>8116527
it isn't even better than base arti tbqh
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>>8116531
It seems a bit more consistent.
With arti I sometimes had to reroll 10 times before I got anything usable, with neta v2 I usually get stuff I can work with on the 1st or 2nd try.
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https://huggingface.co/2vXpSwA7/iroiro-lora/tree/main
alright which version of anytest is everyone even using because between both "controlnet" folders there's quite a few
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>>8116534
neta does have more consistent results but they're also consistently bland
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>>8116254
>>8116306
>>8116307
>>8116238
>>8116245
do you guys don't get jokes?
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>>8116539
do you find the level of delusion those guys operate on so shocking that you've managed to convince yourself they're joking? i don't blame you, i also told myself that at first
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>>8116537
i thought nothing can be more bland than pony
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>>8116546
i'm comparing it to arti
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>>8116537
I also notice that some of the artist tags work better on neta than they do on arti.
Could be placebo though.
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>>8116347
>pruning vtumors
there are at least two known vtuber hashes
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>>8116545
the fact that he didn't release anything can only say that you are a retard
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>>8116554
they're talking about the preview images troonggles has shown. baka ESL calling other people retards when he can't even understand the content he's sperging over
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>>8116489
melon22 love
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>>8116527
what even is neta, never heard of it
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>>8116566
https://civitai.com/models/410737
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>>8116536
v4-marged (yes it's Marge not merge)
-pn is for pony, -am is for animagine
larger size is better, but take more vram and runs slower
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>>8116567
oh it's Arti v2
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Neta v2 has definitely improves on arti's pussy generating ability, but it's still far from NAI/pony
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>>8116571
Her legs are broken... even half baked cascade has better anatomy than this, how does Arti fuck things up so bad? What unholy hell did euge do when training it?
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>>8116539
whats the joke? that pony lives rent free in everyone's head? shitting on pony is a rite of passage, it's just humorous to watch everyone point out the 101 things bad with it yet nobody can make anything better.
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>>8116571
why are there weird discoloration spots around her pussy. why is there a hole where her clit should be. if this is an improvement i dont get how anyone was using base arti.
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>>8116259
>these niggas unironically talking about the "tech" and "quality" in a seed shifter
jeesus
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>NAI1 was revolutionary
>didn't train TE
>people train TE
>model is shit
really gets the noggin joggin
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>>8116579
They had to have trained TE, you wouldn't be able to add new words base sdxl didn't already know otherwise.
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>>8116579
>correlation is causation
Why are you jogging in timberlands?
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>>8116580
they didn't it was plain CLIP. SDXL itself didn't train TE and learned new words too
openai doesn't train TE in dalle
google doesn't train TE in imagen
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>>8116439
https://civitai.com/models/432511/low-light-for-pony
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Don't know why Pony likes Rukia so much, but almost every gen with her turns out bretty good.
>inb4 "image unrelated, right?"
I'm tryin.
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>>8116584
It's because she lost.
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>>8116580
You can add new words without training TE, strangely enough.
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>>8116582
What exactly do you think the clip is/does lol?
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>>8116587
obviously. the base models learned all the words without training TE

>>8116588
it's a shitty language model that generates visually aligned text embeddings
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>>8116579
>>8116582
can anyone direct me to a decent read on what TE/UNET actually do?
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>>8116589
You have no idea what you're talking about...
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>>8116585
?
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>>8116593
lmao enjoy your shitty models then
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>been baking on seed 23 since forever
>kino loras might've been hidden in the gacha all this time
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>>8115930
nice gen, post more
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>>8116596
>he doesn't check every possible seed before changing settings
retard
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>>8116583
This kinda looks like they probably did difference training. Probably set up a few 3d scenes with basic lighting then low light.
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>>8115930
Just can't be bothered to fix.
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>>8116592
You can ignore all the filler text and skip to the part where it lists te/clip, vae and unet. Ask chatgpt to explain it like you're 5 if you want a more palatable version.
https://medium.com/@patelchintan732000123/a-comprehensive-look-at-text-encoders-vq-gans-and-u-nets-3b4687bc8b58
>8116595
Bad bait. Props for keeping me replying this long.
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>>8116592
https://civitai.com/articles/3105/essential-to-advanced-guide-to-training-a-lora
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>>8116606
not vouching for what this says about lora training since I haven't even skimmed that part. it just breaks down the other definitions into easy to understand terms
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>>8115930
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>>8116602
Might be but it's incredibly flexible for what it does
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>lora top, lycoris bottom at the same settings and dataset and everything
so basically worse
i'm pretty sure i could bake it as it was in the first place and somehow get a worse result at this point kek
https://files.catbox.moe/v4bz9t.png
time to stop messing with this stuff
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>>8116610
Yeah training stuff that way tends to make it very style flexible without impacting composition much.
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Should I get into Comfy? Is forge/auto ever going to get updated?
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>>8116623
>Should I get into Comfy?
if you want
>Is forge/auto ever going to get updated?
neoforge
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>>8116623
an anon itt started updating forge, if there's not a link in this thread yet ctrl+f forge in the last thread should be there somewhere

-t. started using comfy and I hate every second of it. no matter the utility it's frustratingly stupid in so many aspects, you really have to be ODing on hrt to have created it
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>>8116623
Node autism is only good when you have a very specific usecase to automate and are smart enough to do it
So probably not for 1girl standing desu
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>>8116606
>>8116604
thanks
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Anything unique about this fork?
https://github.com/Zuntan03/EasySdxlWebUi
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>>8116627
>ODing on hrt
ComfySISTERS.. is this a personal attack?
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>>8116627
>>8116626
>>8116630
Thx. I'll check the forge branch. Meanwhile have a bowsette I did like 2 months ago.
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>>8115919
is there anything actually *NEW*? I feel like there hasn't been a new model or lora worth checking out in forever
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>>8116646
imagegen is solved
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Does anyone know if you can use vpred in A1111 with SDXL models? In Comfy you can just apply new sampling.
>>8116646
Neta 2.0.
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>>8116394
please check for double leashes
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>>8116425
https://files.catbox.moe/7uuyey.png
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>>8116579
Now tell me how many artstyles and characters basic NAIv1 can do
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Cleaned OP thoughtsever?
https://rentry.org/kmehtttp
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>>8116272
it adds a value to the seed when you make an image, that's it.
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>>8116666
Why not just link autism mix why bother linking pony itself at this point
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>>8116664
it can do a shitton of them, just a lot of them are not anime
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>>8116670
shit i switched which was the one to use in my mind kek
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>>8116670
you need it for trainin
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>>8116674
Could be put with lora training
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>>8116677
it should
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>>8116666
Add the other lora training rentry and
https://civitai.com/articles/138/making-a-lora-is-like-baking-a-cake
https://civitai.com/articles/3105/essential-to-advanced-guide-to-training-a-lora
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>>8116679
>Add the other lora training rentry
Nvm I'm blind you didn't remove it
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>>8116664
Artists? None basically. Characters? A lot for a 1.5 model.
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>>8116679
Both of these sound pretty jumblish to me tbhdesu
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>>8116679
>>8116689
The second is good but the first is mumbo jumbo with tag pruning and shit.
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>>8116689
The second is completely factual idk what you're reading
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>>8116666
>>8115959
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>>8116691
Yeah >>8116690 I agree
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>>8116692
That first one is a mess, the cleaned version is a huge improvement
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Neta v2 is great desu.
Not for /hdg/, but just as a general anime model.
Basically a replacement for animagine,
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>The Large Ass Collider (LAC) not working yet properly
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>>8116716
Go talk about it on /e/ then retard
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>>8116726
aieeeeeeeeeee
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>>8116666
I added controlnet models and the upscaler site
If there's a good xl tutorial link it
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>>8116753
controlnet xl tutorial*
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>>8116746
But you can't post AI on /e/
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>>8116766
nice meme
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>>8116746
lmao newfag spotted posting about ai on /e/ will get you banned
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wow this is a new tactic bravo
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gooooooooooooooooooooooood morning btw
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Any news about arti?
Stopped paying attention since pony models are so ugly and arti was not good at porn.
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>>8116777
https://civitai.com/models/410737
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>>8116777
>>8116779
yep. this model is no joke bruh. if you like NAI, copy your prompts over to this one and see
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>>8116777
>>8116779
It's still bad at porn from my testing (although slightly improved)
But it's the best 1girl model right now. Basically local NAI v3 for 1girling
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>>8116782
Yeah, it's very good.
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>>8116782
>But it's the best 1girl model right now. Basically local NAI v3 for 1girling
Hold on a second and look at my cirno, gonna start training with full dataset soon instead of just 8 pictures (which will be 308 pics lol).
>>8115965
huber snr 0.1 loss + full finetune: https://files.catbox.moe/nr9w3r.png
Huber seems to like to pretty much fuck everything up, but gotta do one more run w/o huber just to see if it's text encoder's fault.
Thanks for tuning in once again.
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been away from this hobby for months
what's the best model for porn?
what models are still baking?
how are cascade and wdv going?
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>>8116804
https://civitai.com/models/410737
neta just released and is sota now
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>>8116804
>wdv
that's how i know it's a bait
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>>8116808
huh? waifu diffusion has been a thing since before nai leak
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>>8116810
wdv is a thing since early jule, the way you try to find excuse like that only proves my point
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>>8116812
it's been baking for months retard, sorry if you are clueless
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>>8116813
so we figured it out i guess
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>>8116804
least obvious /hdg/ bait
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I beg you sire, a single discord screenshot
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>>8116831
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>>8116834
>apple
>chrome
>ui design
Amazing how i can hate someone so much from a single screenshot
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the more time passes the less I care for raunchy sex scenes and the more I value style and color. sloppin just doesnt hit when it looks like shit
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>>8116726
they are clearly using imageTo3d, bottom left give it away
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>>8116842
pastel colored slop is still slop
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>>8116842
With this much content, that's normal i think

good composition, original style, new concepts, animations, are going to be the new meta
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>>8116850
more mistress gens is always good
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>>8116480
>>8116488
It's missing there too - is there a box to check to retain metadata before creating it maybe?
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>>8116858
I also miss the old view with all the tags in one easy-to-view place, I know that site exists to load it all but It's annoying to have to use another site and find the LoRA when it used to work they way most people wanted it before.
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I figured out how to preserve the metadata at least - now I have to do some rebaking to try to figure out what settings I used originally
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>>8116863
sorry Im not talking about that, I am talking about the newer version of ReForge and viewing the tags in the lora, where they would autosort by highest value. You can view it like in my catbox below, but its not as good as it used to be.

https://files.catbox.moe/mfpvdk.png
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>>8116865
based MGE enjoyer
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>>8116869
>MGE

i have never seen a lora weight 1+go lol
https://civitai.com/models/556479/mge-monster-girls?modelVersionId=651313
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Hey everyone.
Astralite here.
Pony v7 will release soon and I just wanted to thank you guys for exposing the 3 letter hashes. I'll make sure that kind of stuff won't work in v7.
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Anyone manage to get cyberrealistic pony v5 before the author went bipolar and nuked it yesterday?
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>>8116876
>scrolls down to comments
>"Any chance for making one in Clip Skip 2?"
enough civitai for today
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32 dim nonco lora
128 dim b-lora style and content loras
128 dim dim b-lora rescaled to dim 32
the combined b-lora is quite accurate to the artist, didn't become kanan and somehow has better anatomy then the extracted content and style combo
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>>8116842
only reason i gen sex is so tards don't reeee about /e/ here
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>>8116895
someone will always find a reason to whine here
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>Keeping /h/ board culture
>Whining
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>>8116898
indeed
>nogen
LOL
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>>8116911
This was so close to being good but you had to ruin it
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>>8116914
you dont like thigh sex?
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>>8116906
you're a dumb faggot retard
i'm not seeing your complaints in kk general
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thank you god for ai
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/120375664
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>>8116929
huh?
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>>8116920
>>8116911

nasty roody-poo lover, you know exactly what he meant
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>>8116927
kek
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NOGENS = OUT
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>>8116911
IS THAT A BLACK MALE IN MY HENTAI?
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
MY
>white INSECURITIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES
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post some neta gens if it's so good
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>>8116931
Don't post scat here.
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>>8116937
This is made with neta >>8116927
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the schizo came here from /sdg/ and is one of their mentally ill discord avatarfags. they could take him back, but he got btfo by the other avatarfags so he hides here like a little bitch :)
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>>8116941
That's bullshit, but I believe it.
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https://files.catbox.moe/x8iech.png
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>>8116941
can confirm, prompted it with neta
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>July 9, 2024 6:00 AM
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>>8116951
It's the troll. If you scroll up just a bit you can see he went mask off and reveiled Neta/Arti posting as his new refiner tactic. That he never posts gens from it was telling already
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>>8116956
BASED!!!
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I think that the jannies released the schizo on purpose to get rid of the thread growth.
Don't believe? It's all in the numbers. For months, there's been a conspiracy of janitors against ordinary anons.
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>>8116966
Tread carefully.
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treech stocks rising
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>>8116962
>>8116966
I think that thing above is a bad falseflagging, groid-kun.
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I'm the BBC poster but I haven't posted any images here in the last few days. Someone else is fucking with you guys.
You know how serial killers often have copycats? That's what's happening here. Stop blaming me.
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>>8116972
Shut the fuck up, retard.
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>>8116975
Are you afraid of my filter?
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> Hentai General Chat /hcg/
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>>8116971
why is it such a slow piece of shit, it breaks images too
i'd be posting there if it was functioning properly
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>>8116971
I just tried posting there, but...
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>>8116965
>BAS...
>thick thighs
Meh...
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>>8116965
A bit more
https://files.catbox.moe/fskja7.png
https://files.catbox.moe/f4zeoq.png
https://files.catbox.moe/c5jbq6.png
https://files.catbox.moe/6frmpe.png
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>>8116982
anon your literacy?
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>>8116956
>>8116991
based
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>>8116989
canon thighs
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A few weeks ago there was an anon who was doing a pubic hair slider lora. Do you guys know anything about it? Did he finished it?
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>>8117003
pedos put a hit on him
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Hello :3
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>>8116842
Like in real life, raunchy sex with literalwhos is boring after a while. Pov missionary sex with waifu still hasn't gotten old.
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>>8117012
yuri with two/more wives is even better
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I hate it when I discover something awesome and realize it's already been around for months and I'm just way behind the curve, just found out about anytest and the night/low light lora.
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>>8116929
>>8116938
>anon still hasn't learned where poo comes from
Been staring at slop for too long I guess.
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>>8117017
Stop making the same mistake then. Switch from anytest to xinsir promax and get the negpip extension. And maybe the smea dyn sampler while you're at it
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>>8116966
After that anon told me mod revoked his ban, I believe you. Fuck jannies.
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>>8117017
yeah anytest is awesome, leagues over everything else out at the moment
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>>8117010
hot
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>>8117017
>the night/low light lora
which one?
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>>8117022
that wasn't just some anon, that was b-sama
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>>8117031
This one:

https://civitai.com/models/432511/low-light-for-pony
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>>8117021
Promax is nice, it even recognized individual fingers in openpose mode. The "no preprocessor mode" is also a straight upgrade from anytest.
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>>8117039
nice
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>>8117037
thanks
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>>8117038
Catbox? I love this style.
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>>8117042
>cute anime girl -> controlnet -> cringe ponysloppa
I'm sorry but I don't think controlnet solves the correct problem...
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Does anyone know the styles, loras, or models this guy is using? Its legit some of the best AI smut I've ever seen. https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/28442129
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>>8117048
>I don't like style your style therefore your argument is invalid
It'll work just as well with your dongfeng zhenhue lingfang lora
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>>8117047
Would love to share it with you, but I asked about this artist mix before as well.
It's from here: https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/9906436
I've only figured out that it's probably got quasarcakes and gogalking in the mix.
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The whole point of controlnet is to draw your desired composition, not to just use an existing image because it defeats the whole purpose of creating something that was never done before
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>>8117052
>/hdg/ at the point where people just repost other people's pixiv gens
Oh boy
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>>8117051
>dongfeng zhenhue lingfang
Nobody said anything about toddlers. The (ai-generated:1.5) look is cringe.
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>>8117055
Because I want to bring attention to it so someone to figure out the artist mix :)
No one posts gens here anyway or it's just ponyslop
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>>8117042
how is the vram usage when comparing it to anytest?
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>>8117054
>draw
I can't do that, why do you think I'm using AI
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Retard here. How do I install reForge if I already have Forge? No idea where to paste the commands.
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>>8117056
just train a lora
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>>8117057
>nogen
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>>8117056
Then pick a different lora or even a different model. Promax is black magic and works with everything sdxl
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>>8117062
If you have git installed, you just do it in your \sd.webui\webui folder
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>>8117064
I have posted my gens before.
Why don't you post some as well, follow your own advice?
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>>8117054
that controlnet is just weird
like what's the point of ai if you're just copying the images
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>>8117069
weird, i still don't see any image attached to your post
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>>8117072
weird, i still don't see any image attached to your post
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>>8117052
Yeah I wanted to replicate this style as well but couldn't figure it out
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>>8117052
maybe also wlop, s16xue or ningen mame
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>>8117071
To recreate my favourite blacked gangbang scenes but featuring my elegg waifu.
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>>8117058
around the same
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>>8117075
wlop and ningen mame are very common in the better looking nai gens that I've seen, so seems likely. Especially with the more painted look.
s16xue is an interesting guess, I'll see what it looks like
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>>8117071
You can pose the openpose model yourself from scratch. or use screenshots from cascadeur
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>>8117076
>doesn't use his creative imagination to insert her in his head
ngmi
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>>8117082
yes that's what i mean
used to be people making their poses but afaik it's mostly the blacked schizo copying other shit nowadays
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>>8117052
A lot of the more well-shaded nai gens use photo \(medium\), photorealistic and shit like that.
Here's one of the posts where some guy forgot to remove metadata: https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/120459581
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>>8117071
For making style variants of my favorite images
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>>8117082
Nta and never heard of that program before. Is is possible to create 3d porn with it for a retard like me? Has anyone tried?
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>>8117084
Making original poses is a lot of work and there's no guarantee that pony won't throw a wrench in your plans at the end.
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>>8117085
no metadata though
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>>8117027
Yeah
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>>8117085
>>8117093
oh nvm I'm a retard
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>>8117090
Actual 3d porn or 3d gens?
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>>8117098
Actual 3d porn with animation
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>>8117071
I use a posable 3d model in blender that allows you to output controlnet depth/open pose/other inputs that you can then just feed straight into it without a preprocessor. It's mostly nice for hands and being extremely autistic about particular angles.

Kinda shitty example image, just threw it together quickly, in this case getting the hands to show up on the pov male's body like this seems really hard without it.
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>>8117099
If you're willing to put a couple 100 hours into learning the software and making the animations, then yes
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>>8117103
damn ok, thanks
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>>8117042
yeah it's good
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>>8115919
Good morning Frens. Did a big update to one of my Huggingface Model Repos. Gonna do the same for the rest. Thoughts?

https://huggingface.co/AiAF/Lightsource-0Lightsource-OLS_PonyXL.safetensors
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>>8117102
>getting the hands to show up on the pov male's body like this seems really hard without it.
Might just be a resolution issue, where if you widen it then it'll add the hands in. The issue though is it loves to make the male's legs like this. But I also very regularly prompt painted nails so it loves to throw hands in every image.
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Can anyone help a retard and link to promax?
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>>8117085
That's a good find. I'm on the fence about the photorealistic type of phrases being used by the account I posted since the styles tend to lean more towards a very painted look
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>>8117021
>>8117042
>Promax
I'm getting shit results compared to anytest. The colors come out flat and simple. It's nothing like your results. What the hell am I doing wrong?
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>>8117113
abhorrent image
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>>8117122
you have to lower your denoise like 0.15-0.55 or some shit or else it fries the colors, don't ask me why
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>>8117042
What is this "no preprocessor mode" thing? I did some test a few days ago and got worse result with promax than anytest
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>>8117120
Gens of the guy I posted do be painterly sometimes: https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/120327939
But I can't confirm it's the same mix all the time since he doesn't have metadata on any of his images I'm actually interested in (and I don't have a nai sub anyway).
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Anytest vs promax consoleware when?
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>>8117132
Just tested it and it's probably the same
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>>8117143
Looks really cute honestly. You may get jannied though...
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>>8117039
>>8116865
Hellhound is best girl, and best girls get walkies and headpats.
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any of you using a 4090 for your gens? if so hows that comparing to others?
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>>8117042
Can you also shift the open pose positions etc? That's what I really didn't like about anytest.
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>>8116459
can i get a catbox for this? i wanna see the workflow
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>>8116726
anyone try this with runway gen 3 yet?
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>>8117050
Definitely ikuchan kaoru. Probably iwao there too.
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>>8117159
Yes I moved some of the joints and added both hands. The preprocessor output is garbage for openpose most of the time
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making loras that aren't really meant just for porn is pretty cool actually
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>>8117168
But anon used openpose_full in that pic. Are you saying you always use none for preprocessor?
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>>8117122
>>8117124
Okay, I was getting blown out results because I was using Euler SMEA Dy. I switched back to my tried and true DPM++ 2S a and now the results are much better.
The biggest difference I noticed between Anytest and Promax is, Promax is more accurate. (at about 0.5 denoise) Anytest gives you high quality results out of the box but it's not as accurate to the input image. (for ex. if you use an sketch drawing) Neither of them are better/worse than the other overall.
Promax for most accuracy, Anytest for ease of use and quality.
Here is a gen using Promax at 0.25 denoise (upscaled)
https://files.catbox.moe/0e5rtq.png
Original sketch
https://files.catbox.moe/2hmt81.jpg
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>>8117158
5 sec base res gen with no adetailer
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>>8117178
changing sampler for upscale is helping
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>>8117175
Wut?
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>>8117179
at 1024x1024?
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>>8117178
Your usecase is kinda simple. You could probably just use the kataragi canny model and would still get good results. No need for a 2.5gb controlnet if you just want to color scribbles
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>>8117183
>The preprocessor output is garbage for openpose most of the time
What do you mean by this?
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>>8117185
yes
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Lucky star anon if you're here, what did you do to get wife's eyes to gen correctly? Idk why AI is having such a problem with ringed eyes.
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>>8117188
When you run the preprocessor it'll try to generate an openpose for you.
This fails most of the time and the pose will be missing limbs or have joints in the wrong places. You can then edit the pose in the webui to fix it, which I did for my example
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>>
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>>8117197
Ah okay thanks.
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>>8117187
>kataragi canny
First time hearing about this one. I tried it, it seems to work well enough. It's even more accurate to the sketch. They also have a few other interesting CNs. It's nice to have so many options now.
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>>8117195
i draw them manually, there are not enough artists that draw show-accurate iris and screencaps fucks up style too much without any gains so i gave up on AI here
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>>8117206
sovlful
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>>8117207
>screencaps fucks up style too much without any gains
Yeah this is the problem I'm having. Idk how I can have massive hires pics of her eyes close up and AI still can't do it properly. It can do makina so I know it understands but idk.
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>>8117209
based
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>>8117191
thanks
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>>8117209
based
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>>8117209
armpits don't look like that
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>>8117214
sadly
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>>8116459
>>8117163
Seconded.
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>>8117210
NAI also draws them fine even with multiple artist styles and this https://civitai.com/models/497407/ lora has Miyuki previews with passable iris so its a skill issue on my end
picrel lora has two screencaps steps out of ~230 and they alone push iris to be ringed
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I'm too based for this world
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>>8117214
Not where you live
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>>8112929
IAbro are you still around? Could you catbox this or at least tell me how I could get that particular style?
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>>8117222
don't worry anon, some day you will go to cunny heaven
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>>8117209
Based.
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Pony can't do single wing unfortunately.
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>>8117231
im pretty sure it can, alternatively inpaint it out
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>>8117209
uoh
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>>8117225
It's a NAI gen
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>>8117236
this, metadata is in the image
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>>8117214
The ai says they do (shuten-anon's adult wife btw)
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>>8117231
pony can barely do wings to begin with
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>>8117206
Catbox?
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uoh hours
SAD
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>>8117236
I plan to try NAI soon so I'd still appreciate having the info.
>>8117239
4chan wipes metadata though? Unless you mean NAI has ways to analyze through pixels only?
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>>8117173
it's fun to make them of sfw artists
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>>8117252
Grown men disliking big hangers, many such cases
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>>8117253
NAI stores metadata in alpha layer of the image
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>>8117240
ah
rotten body bird anon nostalgia
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>>8117253
Copy pasta into here: https://novelai.net/inspect
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>>8117253
nai stores their metadata in a way that doesn't get wiped when uploading it to 4chan
you can just download the image and put it into their inspect page to check
https://novelai.net/inspect
alternatively use this thing in the OP
>>8115919
>4chanX Catbox/NAI prompt userscript: https://rentry.org/hdgcb
lets you right click the image and see the metadata if it's present, among other things
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hagbros... just one hag image... please
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>>8117253
Or just put it in png info in SD.
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I don't know which is worse, treech turning my posted images into 404 errors, or 4chan giving me connection errors when trying to post images.
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>>8117264
>posting images
hello newfriend
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>>8117261
is loli time
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>>8117261
https://files.catbox.moe/398t37.png
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>>8117272
perfect
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>>8117209
based
https://files.catbox.moe/32ntx8.jpg
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>diluted dataset's lora looks better than curated
owari wa...
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>>8117163
>>8117217
https://files.catbox.moe/fceb92.png
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>>8117261
https://files.catbox.moe/tdqvs1.png
>>8117270
https://files.catbox.moe/rgeh8d.png
It's time for both.
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>>8117261
HAGS
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IM HAGGING
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>>8117277
>owari wa...
That would be "owari da".
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>cunny.png
this kills shotahagfags
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>>8117280
uhh based
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>>8117233
>alternatively inpaint it out
It doesn't even make an attempt at 1.6 weight which is strange but yeah this seems to be the answer to most of my problems thanks. I really need to get better at inpainting...
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>>8117275
based
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>>8117261
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>>8116803
Alright, 22 epochs of 308 pics finetune done, but it was unet-only.
cirno: https://files.catbox.moe/og58vt.png
cirno by ciloranko: https://files.catbox.moe/ey4056.png
cirno by wlop: https://files.catbox.moe/vyyw8m.png
cirno by fizrot: https://files.catbox.moe/e3544a.png
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>>8117296
freudfag
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>>8117298
What was the purpose of this test?
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>>8117296
Anon that penis is backwards...
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>>8117304
we're getting pretty close to automatic animated smut gen
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>>8117306
Image gen hasn't even reached its full potential and everyone just ran to videogen? Well at least it's much more coherent than it was 3 months ago.
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>>8117277
>fixed up my dataset
>better tags
>bettter and more images
>worse result than old lora
every time
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>>8117303
Just wanted to see how easy it is to convert epspred checkpoint into vpred+ztsnr with more or less proper colors. Turns out it's shit easy, no wonder NAI employees were so smug about this.
https://files.catbox.moe/w647l8.png
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>>8117277
>>8117315
kek this but only for basic features like eyes and hair
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>better settings
>more thought out
>advanced optimizer sampler and network type
>worse than my most basic tested script
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>>8117326
skill issue
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>>8117326
Every time
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>>8117306
where did you get chinese phone number? I wanna get that too
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my loras usually work better after i try to improve them :)
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>>8117329
signup is email now
you get 6 free gens. use a disposable email and gen as much as you want
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>>8117331
You are using klingai.kuaishou.com right? There's only phone sign up for me...
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>prompt head back
>range from slightly lifting head to completely dislocating the neck
>prompt long tongue
>range from slightly longer tongue to the longest tongue you have ever see
yeah well fuck me i guess
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>>8117337
skill issue
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>>8117336
https://klingai.com/
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Any tips on inpainting spread pussy? I just get folds upon folds with most styles.
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Absolute state of discord trannies
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>>8117341
I'm blind. Many thanks!
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>>8117343
Kek. Got pretty blurry at least, I think the "smeary blurry nai" anon will love it!
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>>8117342
Download some templates, put the one you like over it in your preferred image editing software and inpaint with very low denoise.
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https://files.catbox.moe/20ce85.png
lol this worked way too well
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>>8117343
cascade, echo chamber
wdv, echo chamber
PD, echo chamber that delivers

take the jordach/neggles pill today
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>>8117346
That poster is disingenuous. Here's the real e8 preview https://cdn.discordapp com/attachments/1220146790943166514/1265710648206295040/image_00000.png?ex=66a28066&is=66a12ee6&hm=8317e836477ca5c83ac9196fbbeedccaf6bfef6394ce784548c8e3f9a7113d7d&
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>>8117347
That sounds like it would get old real fast. But at least it works, yeah.
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>>8117323
for this i just untag stuff i want to be always a part of wife's look, like hair and eye color, so it would be prompted though her name, eye form usually carries to character name too but you can tag strongest images with eye form so it would be reinforced by prompting it
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>>8117349
>/r/eddit
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>>8117343
dont forget! one (1) test prompt is a good indicator of the model as a whole! it's just like an audio engineer using a reference mix!
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https://files.catbox.moe/gv963j.png
https://files.catbox.moe/t38uru.png
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>>8117349
Hmm and this was just a concept lora? No activation tag? How many background pics did you take for the dataset?
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>>8117255
>big hangers
I like itty bitty titties on tall athletic milfs
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>>8117361
Yep this is exactly what I did but it still didn't work.
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>>8117343
but... isn't that you?
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>>8117318
>Turns out it's shit easy, no wonder NAI employees were so smug about this.
With that I can conclude that every single anime baker in existence except NAI and *just maybe* neggles, is having an unparalleled skill issue. Shame the hands, anatomy and little details are pretty much fucked, prob LR was set too high and there was too few pics.
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>>8117377
based
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>>8117326
Anon, take the blora pill and slap it on your basic setup. Shit's looking real good.
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>>8117354
would help if the preview included anime girl and anime style artists (beside asanagi)
also
>by novelai
kek
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>>8117378
it's a lora trained on screenshots from that one part of future redeemed so that i could get a better starting point for difference training a background lora
it's 60 images from various parts of the scene, no activation token.
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>>8117318
>>8117384
Can you explain further so I can cure my skill issue?
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>>8117373
Genuinely I wonder what would be a good set of model benchmark tests.
1girl obviously isn't enough but I feel like I don't usually see model makers/mixers do much besides 1girl, 1girl mountain at night, 1girl eye focus.
I feel like showing 1girl/1boy/duos should be a baseline, handstands, holding hands or any complex hand/finger positioning.
Then also would be good to see tests for how much of the model has retained background knowledge and perspective.
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>>8117389
By difference training do you mean this?
https://rentry.org/Copier_Method_Notes
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>>8117387
how and why
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>>8117382
Can't fault a man for lurking. Discord has a monopoly on lolcows these days and a farmer must follow his herd
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>>8117373
help, nayuta is melting seductively
https://files.catbox.moe/ee4kcd.mp4
help, nayuta is very stiffly enjoying summer
https://files.catbox.moe/ngnmwt.mp4
help, nayuta is very smugly converting her ass into legs
https://files.catbox.moe/r59tds.mp4
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>>8117392
the same underlying principal yeah
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>>8117394
>Can't fault a man for lurking
i can and i will
if you use trooncord at all kill yourself
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>>8117395
Cute melting. The stare on the second one is so creepy it would suit Makima better.
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>>8117391
Professionals use purple eyes, 1girl, short hair, smile, open mouth, ruffled blouse, red blouse, pleated skirt, blonde hair, green scarf, pointing at viewer, blunt bangs, blue skirt, foreshortening, fang
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https://files.catbox.moe/vijq69.png
https://files.catbox.moe/cpwbdu.png

hmmmm
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>>8117395
based
pajamas are the most underrated sexy attire
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>>8117402
Hot.
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>>8117256
>>8117258
>>8117260
>>8117263
Thank you anons.
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https://files.catbox.moe/m93m1k.png

>>8117395
based and kekd
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>>8117402
the first one is cute but the chair is fucked and so is the stomach bulge
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>>8117401
honestly its not a bad test for consistent color separation but even better would be seeing if you can have 2girls or 1girl1boy with unique color palettes.
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>>8117395
why is she so melty and smeared???
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>>8117408
her left cubitus is also angled at a 60° angle instead of 80°
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>>8117411
its NAI so of course its melty
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>>8117411
she's taken so many loads that she is, compositionally, cum
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>>8117410
There's nothing to test there, it's not happening. Cascade is trained with randomly shuffled tags, there's no way to assign one tag to one character and another to another.
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>>8117390
You just enable v_parameterization and zero_terminal_snr and do your next pony/animagine/arti/neta/kohaku. You are cured, congrats.
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>>8117391
your mistake is assuming that those model bakers care about objectively evaluating their model's performance
there's a reason they only use the simplest possible prompts
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>>8117415
I was talking in general
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>>8117391
reverse suspended congress pictures
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>>8117410
It's apparently used by NAI.
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>>8117416
if you have something good, compare side by side
upload it, provide instructions to replicate
you won't, you'll just make shit up
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>>8117411
yeah it's weird, you're not supposed to cook sushi
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QRD, please: starting from zero, how do I get SD to make slight modifications to existing hentai like adding/removing underwear and such?
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>>8117422
kek I wasn't even meaning to take it this far I just had basic curiosity but fair response.
>>8117416
>You just enable v_parameterization and zero_terminal_snr
Where exactly do I enable this in the kohya_ss GUI? Or is this a command I have to type in?
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>>8117418
Well yeah of course not but it would be nice if there was some standard to hold bakers to.
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>>8117424
go to youtube and have some indian man with a thick accent explain to you how to inpaint
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>>8117391
Leg lock and hug. Hand holding is too hard imo. Might as well have said tribadism.
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>>8117424
install some webui (stable swarm, reforge, a1111, whatever)
get a model suitable for your vram (SDXL if you have a lot of vram, SD 1.5 if you don't, get this "checkpoint" from CivitAI, pick one you like the look of)
launch your UI of choice, learn to prompt first
once you can prompt and gen normal images and are comfortable with that, swap over to the img2img/inpainting tab or whatever it's called in your UI
approximately edit your image in some image editor, painting in roughly what you want (hue/luminosity/etc, even a shit sketch is good like removing clothes or repositioning a limb).
set up sane defaults for inpainting (1024x1024 for SDXL, 768x768 for 1.5) with some padding and 0.4-0.6 denoise.
select your feature you wanna reroll/fix/add/whatever, inpaint. repeat ad coomitas
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>>8117428
the standard is that you download their model and test it yourself
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>>8117393
Only started fiddling with it today but so far I've noted faster training with less vram used. Styles also look better since you can jack the dim up without gigantic filesizes + they work better with character loras and prompts.

At least for sd-scripts with lycoris library you just grab this toml and point to it in network args like this:

--network_args "algo=locon" "preset=C:/folder/blora_content_layout_style_conv.toml" `

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ThereforeGames/blora_for_kohya/main/lycoris_presets/blora_content_layout_style.toml
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>>8117435
I am glad people are unironically finally testing per-block training
good for mental
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>>8117435
So what's the difference between blora and just training with custom block weights
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>>8117437
nothing at all, they're exactly the same.
for XL, target IN08/OUT00/OUT01 and provide your own settings for everything else.
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>>8117439
man i am so fucking tired of people making settings presets and calling them with a different name
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>>8117401
cascade bros...
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>>8117435
i don't think that training is actually faster. the it/s are much faster but the amount of iterations you need for the same results seems higher
>>8117437
nothing, basically. the people behind blora have just figured out two OUT blocks that actually matter.
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>>8117441
it's so over
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>>8117441
Will pony ever be dethroned?
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>>8117442
faster by virtue of allowing larger dim which picks up more stuff quicker.
not sure the iterations are faster or slower but I didn't look too closely
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>>8117441
missing fang and ruffles and let's not talk about that hand

>>8117449
has fangs instead of a single fang
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>>8117449
no
you will consume horse smegma
and you will be happy
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>>8117456
localbros...
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>>8117439
has anyone actually trained a decent style lora with this
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>>8117458
its over...
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>>8117441
Smol retarded model desperately trying to output something cute but failing at every step.
>>8117449
(ai-generated:1.7)
>>8117456
Easy winner, no competition.
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>>8117459
>>8115782
maybe
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>>8117460
joewari da
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>>8117441
It's so sad, colour looks very good and eyes doesn't seems to be heavily melted as before, but what i can see is that i was indeed right, using gelbooru as dataset just poisoned the well too much due to it's incredibly shitty, misclassified, and false positive tagged images and this damage can't be undone, >>8117449 obviously is superior but the sepia just eats the fucking whole image it's not even funny to me anymore.

future is not looking bright boys. it's our doom.
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>>8117463
watch out someone's gonna come in saying something about "blurry" and "smeared" soon
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>>8117458
>>8117460
Just train a LORA
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>>8117459
yes. normal style loras are probably the only thing that it's useful for
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>>8117468
"purple eyes, 1girl, short hair, smile, open mouth, ruffled blouse, red blouse, pleated skirt, blonde hair, green scarf, pointing at viewer, blunt bangs, blue skirt, foreshortening, fang".safetensors
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>>8117427
>kohya_ss GUI?
I don't use that shit so I don't know.
>>8117422
Fine, here it is, seed 0 comparison.
Neta 2.0:
https://files.catbox.moe/v9h7ob.png
Neta 2.0 with vpred+ztsnr lora trained on arti:
https://files.catbox.moe/kw8ec2.png
You train the checkpoint with v_parameterization and zero_terminal_snr enabled, use ComfyUI with a discrete sampling node set to v_prediction to gen.
>>8117401
lol
ep 22 https://files.catbox.moe/ueheql.png
ep 44 https://files.catbox.moe/b7ymmq.png
Neta 2.0 https://files.catbox.moe/uqt0tq.png
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>>8117449
Will v7 fix the sepia shit?
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>>8117474
Yep, check the cord bro
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>>8117467
I added blur and smear to negs, he can't do that now.
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prepare for v7, now with x5 times more jpeg artifacts cuz dataset will get converted to jpeg 5 times now instead of 2
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>>8117473
what exactly does this compare? both your gens are busto, the latter is less saturated
is this supposed to demonstrate your elite knowledge anon
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>>8117456
Turk, release v3, this cannot go on... If nobody leaks v4 the moment it comes out, it's fucking over.
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>>8117479
this will happen and it will still be the best local model
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>>8117466
i unironically cannot wait for Ponyv7 just to see what new methods Astralite finds to fuck up his model
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>>8117442
I wouldn't know about needing more iterations since I'm already baking with pretty retarded settings. 1st is no B-lora, 2nd is 80mb B-lora and 3rd is 330mb B-lora.

Not the best comparison but identical settings and same epoch with the prompt "1girl, solo, maid outfit, tired, bored, gloom, short hair, white hair, open clothes,breasts, nipples, sitting, night, alleyway, panting, medium breasts, colorful, outline, black background, graffiti".
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>>8117480
what exactly did you ask to compare?
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>>8117475
Will it fix the low lighting issue or will japs need to train a lora again?
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arti sisters...
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>>8117481
Faggot can't even release v3 docs and v2.
We can still huff some copium with cascade and wdv imo, it's not over yet.
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>>8117491
>We can still huff some copium with cascade and wdv
please scroll up in the thread. ITS OVER
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>>8117401
Trifusion coming in!!! With 6 fingers no less!
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>>8117491
>cascade
it's jordachover
>wdV
it's never releasing
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>>8117490
cutest of them all
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>>8117494
what was the mixture for trifusion again, was it the slopmix
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>>8117486
if this is your sales pitch anon it's not working
I asked for something good smartass
when you shill tech you need to sell it by showing how it's better, you're not doing that
use a bit of common sense
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erm i mean, at least cascade hasn't finished baking so there's still hope left until the bake ends, i think...???
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>>8117467
it doesn't do the schizo blurry shit unless you try to stray outside of the booru dataset which is full of closeup images of girls on white backgrounds, lol
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>>8117502
>>8117343
one more epoch
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>>8117502
you're right, only 18 more months until it finishes baking!
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>>8117500
(You)
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>>8117502
Cascade is ded. Gelbooru tags fucked up the training.
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>>8117502
lite will be done in 11 months, then 3.6b will be done in 22 months after that
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>>8117456
That's a big ass nail
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>>8117508
Proof?
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animagine sisters...
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if chinks will not deliver it's over
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vpred+ztsnr 308 pics retrain brothers...
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>>8117513
>1.5 slop style
we are so back sisters!
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>>8117516
sovl
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>>8117506
>>8117509

y'know

at least jordach delivered something, unlike neggles and xir wdv which is likely delivering never rolfmao
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>>8117522
64 days trust the plan
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>>8117522
>at least jordach delivered something
what
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>>8117524
A lot of discord screenshots
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>>8117524
he delivered lies, ego, and false promises
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>>8117524
He delivered doom.
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>>8117522
and i respect jordach more than neggles because of that but since i have 0 respect for neggles that isn't saying much
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>>8117524
an underbaked model

oh look neggles delivered something today: .safetensors
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>>8117497
It's ponymagine + .... this??? https://civitai.com/models/121215?modelVersionId=520650
Then trifusion enhanced is that + 2 background loras merged in at medium strength.

And ponymagine is a block merge of pony and animagine where the guy tried to take style from animagine (success) but pose complexity from pony (fail I think).
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>>8117522
you get one point out of 100 instead of zero
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Heart of Apple sirs...
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>>8117536
So bad you couldn't even post it?
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>>8117533
pose complexity hasn't improved much since ConfettiComradeMix
we've been stagnant for a while.
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>>8117473
>I don't use that shit so I don't know.
So I guess you're mad now? Idk why you get triggered so easily. Can you at least tell me what you use and how you enable it there instead? That's the obvious follow up to a response like this...
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schizo arti heart netaDPO bros...
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>>8117536
you dropped your image, sir
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>>8117546
It's pretty cute desu. At least while it's fucking up the hand like cascade, it does really nice eyes and hair in the meantime.
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>>8117490
Would be perfect if the purple didn't leak into the blouse.
>>
amateurs
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>>8117546
>>8117516
>>8117513
>>8117494
>>8117490
>>8117456
>>8117449
>>8117441
Impressive, very nice, let's see nijijourneys gen
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>>8117441
hmmm well i do remember cascade being x10 times more melted than this, at least in this one the eyes doesn't look like an awful garbage in comparison, all that i can see is that is underbaked, but will be finished one day at least

btw what if you try e6 tags instead? remember that this finetune uses basically all of e6 and all the tags should be compatible with anime, at least it's supposed to
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Posting duo tests using Controlnet and Couple. Had to reduce the resolution to hit the 4MB limit but the original was using around 11gb of memory. Surprised it even worked together but I'm pleased with the results.
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>>8117554
you're NOT worthy enough to contemplate what nijiGODS can do
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>>8116876
Ba-
>1gb
Honestly worth it probably if it's that clean with everyone separated. Now I wanna know how he did it unless this is like some insane 2-3 day cook of the entire MGE catalog of girls.
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>>8117545
what about it?
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>>8117554
prompt blocked
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>>8117561
Back to ponysloppa it is..............
Complete with thick outline, ugly muscle folds, ugly cartoon dick, ugly fat women and all the good jazz.
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>>8117557
>btw what if you try e6 tags instead?
tried this and it's more or less the same, i just switched out 1girl to be female, human + smile to be smile, open smile. also ruffled blouse doesnt even seem to exist as a tag lol
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>>8117561
Controlnet + couple has been a thing since 1.5.
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>>8117572
>it's more or less the same
well at least we know e6 tags and anime works together, i guess...
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>>8117578
well yes obviously
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>>8117573
I'm just having fun fiddling with tools. Didn't mean to sound like I was doing something new lmao.

>>8117569
>thick outline
I cum
>ugly cartoon dick
Not ugly enough
>ugly fat women
Are you Irish?
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>>8117568
jej
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So I'm uploading the e44 checkpoint with the metadata if you feel curios. The colors aren't as good as on NAI but this is still miles ahead of everything local. It's likely very overfit, but whatever, it kinda werks. Maybe it will even work for pony, who knows.
https://mega.nz/file/eoNwAaKZ#41rG6wyjcdBj-I2UWSJNO1jzCpn0xT0Iz4kuVZpiF-I

You can use example comfy workflow if you want to try it out:
https://files.catbox.moe/dgdhya.png

If you want to use it in A1111/Forge, you'd have to create a config file next to the base model that will switch it to vpred and put the lora under Lora directory and apply it as a regular lora.
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It's officially over. OWARI DES
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>>8117600
the art style is not what makes NAI
it's the vast understanding and diversity of training
like pov from behind that also leans over the shoulder
like upside-down or weird poses like handstand
the style is the least important part, anyone can train a style in
can you show how this remotely improves on the fundamental issues, like complex poses?
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>>8117600
>miles ahead of everything local
>warped hand
jokes write themselves
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>>8117597
her hands are garbage
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>>8117432
thanks. i literally just got gome from getting me a brand new RTX4080TS after realizing how powerful this stable diffusion shit is. get's get into it.
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it's all so tiresome
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>>8117605
you're replying to bait but this simply isn't true
pony is actually not that far behind when it comes to prompt adherence, and for some degenerate stuff if even outperforms nai (because of the furry dataset). plus, local always has the option to use controlnet and regional prompter and concept loras if the prompt alone isn't enough.
the main problem with pony will always be that it's not possible to produce appealing art styles with it.
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>>8117600
it's almost sovl with how she looks like a stereotypical retard
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continuing hidiffusion / RAUnet testing from yesterday, forgive the frequent sfw material among these gens but only anons ITT seemed interested
im being a little less lazy and strung up a test bench

first, 1536x1536 12 step gens under RAUnet, no time on cross-attention block, different euler variant samplers. try to focus on broad composition and unusual errors and not mangled hands at these steps. prompt:
score_9, score_8_up, score_7_up, (m-da s-tarou:0), ayanami rei, sitting on a park bench, sundress, cobblestone path, lake, flowers, butterfly, aqua hair, red eyes
each gen took about 8 seconds on a 3080 Ti mobile

this pic: 0 time on cross attention blocks (0.6 time on input/output blocks). no clearly better choice but i lean away from the negatives

ill catbox high res jpegs or full workflow if anyone asks
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>>8117615
>the main problem with pony will always be that it's not possible to produce appealing art styles with it.
Come on man this is just false. The main problem has always been pony's shitty prompt comprehension. Anyone that can't reproduce a style from NAI is having a skill issue but there's nothing any of us can do to make pony understand object permanence.
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>>8117615
That's not true either, it just takes effort.
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>>8117615
>>8117619
you can't adhere to something that was never seen in training.
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>>8117619
>The main problem has always been pony's shitty prompt comprehension
in all the months of retarded local vs nai console wars this is honestly the first time i've seen this take
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So from the samplers on reforge, which one is good?
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>>8117622
You can't be serious.
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>>8117619
bait used to be believable
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>>8117600
>it works
>with this image attached
lol
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>>8117618
0.1 time on cross attention block
euler negatives shat the bed, strong divergence from euler A versions and euler dy. i think euler A and euler Dy each benefit from this change
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So yeah, it kinda werks with pony but it's also kinda junk.
>>8117605
>>8117615
>>8117619
>>8117620
>>8117621
>>8117622
>>8117624
>>8117625
Can you please decide before baiting?
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>>8117624
i'm almost confused by how wrong you are. have you used both nai and pony extensively?
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>>8117618
are you ever going to explain what the fuck this is instead of vomiting your test results without context
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>>8117623
None, doesn't matter how many + you add to your euler smegma dy ancestral sampler, it won't make pony pretty
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>>8117624
lel
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>>8117619
Well at least this is genuinely new
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>>8117626
This is what you would get if it didn't work.
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>>8117623
smeady with sgm uniform
any of the shit that worked before (eulers, dpm++s, etc) with sgm uniform
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>>8117629
Alright I'm not getting dragged into bait I'll just leave the thread for a few hours. On the miniscule chance you're actually being genuine try doing some poses where hair goes behind the body and comes out the other side on pony and see how often it gets it correctly.
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>>8117635
nice meme
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>>8117635
>4.7GB
what did you expect
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this just in
pony no longer piss filtered?!
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>>8117630
here's hi diffusion node, ive posted it before (and it was suggested to me on /hdg/). it's basically a more advanced kohya hiresfix/deep shrink for genning directly at higher resolution
these are testing different ca_end_time values on the RAUnet node, on different samplers
https://github.com/blepping/comfyui_jankhidiffusion

0.2 ca_end_time, top 2 rows further improve, unsure about euler dy
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>>8117640
oh, so your complaint was about object permanence, not really about prompt comprehension. in that case i agree that nai destroys pony when it comes to this, but again, you're the first person i've ever seen that thinks this is the biggest advantage nai has over pony.
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>>8117646
Well in addition to object permanence, pony has worse prompt comprehension simply because it has a smaller dataset. There are things that it should know but doesn't which I assume will automatically be fixed in the next version.
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>>8117640
Literally always, massive skill issue on your part. Pony messes up the alignment of a bench in maybe 1 of 3 gens, but that is hardly the biggest deal breaker
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>>8117649
yeah yeah yeah faggot
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>still talking about it
>over half a year after release
jeeesus get a hobby
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>>8117650
Just admit when you're wrong. It's probably some ill trained lora fucking up your gens
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0.3 ca_end_time, now they're all cooked pretty hard.

imo ca_end_time adjusts the perspective/framing of the gen, in a positive manner, up to a point. i think that point changes depending primarily on steps, with more steps letting you push higher ca_end_time.
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>>8117622
I'm going to try NAI next month but Pony really sucks at prompt comprehension.
>prompt 'penis on breast'
>most of the gens don't have penis on breast
>prompt 'deep penetration'
>none of the gens actually have the dick go all the way to the base even with penis related prompts pruned.
Then I look at NAI gens and even without vibe transfer it seems to just easily do what Pony can't do.
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>anon spends his time trying to explore new thing
>shares the results with anons
>gets this in response
yeah thanks for reminding me this general is shit
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>>8117655
gets what
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>>8117652
There's nothing to admit because I'm not wrong. NAI can do object permanence way better than pony and it's in no way controversial unless you're new. I'm not talking about shitty benches but bullshit like hairpins not moving correctly, arms or legs going behind the body and not connecting properly, penises getting fucked up because something partially obscured its view in the foreground etc. NAI never has this problem but pony does it was the thing I missed the most when I switched to local. Colors? Monochrome in negs or avoid score tags. Train your lora better to match your style. Done. There's nothing (You) the user can do about fundamental model knowledge but you're just here to shitpost since you can't admit something so painfully obvious.
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>>8117654
>>prompt 'penis on breast'
>prompt something that isn't a tag
>doesn't get it
wtfffffff pony!!!!!!
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>>8117658
spears and staves are the worst
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>>8117654
Not sure what you're expecting, but "penis on breast" will most likely give you paizuri on NAI, and "deep penetration" isn't that deep.
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>>8117654
Pony comprehends prompts very well. The issue is that we don't know the tags it was trained on
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>>8117655
ganbare anon-kun
don't give up
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>>8117658
>Colors? Monochrome in negs or avoid score tags. Train your lora better to match your style. Done.
if it was that easy 99% of pony gens here wouldn't be aesthetically garbage
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>>8117664
Instead of wasting more time shitposting, why don't you tell me where the sepia is in my pic and fuck off with your shitty skill issue?
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>>8117662
this, lol
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>>8117662
I've used e621 and booru tags. It's just bad dude.

>>8117661
Sounds like skill issue lmao.
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>nogens
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>>8117658
>pic
Is this supposed to prove something about pony styles not being completely fucked?
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>>8117665
considering you think that looks acceptable i don't think there's anything more for us to talk about
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>>8116876
Was gonna say this thing sucks but it's wild the variance so gonna need to mess with stuff. I couldn't gen Anubis at all at any strength without being insanely shit / blurry. Try binyup and it's perfect at like 0.9 or near 1.
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>>8117658
Show some examples then. There is literally nothing you can do the mask the pony look, but object permanence is easily fixed by just hitting generate again or moving an arm an inch in photoshop before inpainting. Object permanence being ponys main issue is the biggest schizo take since that guy that argued 1.5 with loras was better than sdxl.
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>dumb low IQ shitposters
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>>8117653
im just now looking at the catbox you sent from earlier and anon why do you keep one single massive workflow for testing, im Not installing the extra bloat nodes
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>>8117676
it's such a weird hour for that doe
it's usually right at 4pm
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>>8117677
that's my normal gen workflow, the center is the main area which can fit comfortably on half a 4k monitor

these are using a separate workflow
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it's genuinely over for pony if the cope about shitty prompt comprehension is "we don't know what tags it used".

like do you guys even read your own shit.
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>>8117682
yes yes nai won etc etc
now post a gen from it ;)
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>>8117681
are you genning these at that res natively? ill just copy the res you use and throw raunet into my own workflow if so
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>>8117687
yes, those were directly at 1536x1536
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I'm starting to lora train again after months and I have a question.
Do I prune pose tags like standing, sitting? I think I read somewhere that those tags need to go as well.
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>>8117561
>>8117582
based as always
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>>8117689
unless those are wrong then never do that ever
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why does our already degenerate time not allow shopify to sell full-on nudity god damn it
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>>8117697
sir, what?
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>>8117688
seems interesting though so far its kinda fried
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>>8117705
you have to put in extra work figuring out settings for high res gen
i think this is a good starting point for RAUnet settings, and the other node is buggy as shit
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>>8117615
everything about your post is wrong, pretty impressive
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>>8117704
I mean the ecommerce platform Shopify does not allow 18+ content to be sold. or to be precise, their default payment processor doesn't and from what I've looked, finding an alternate card processor is a pain.
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>>8117710
we need xyz nodes
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one thing 1111 forks have an advantage in: not as easy to put wrong values in for x and y axes on your plots

30 steps, /h/ content with lots of entangled parts

ayanami rei, missionary position sex, hug, kissing, leglock, beach, full body, cum in pussy, aqua hair, black hair

0.0 ca_end_time

full res/workflow: https://files.catbox.moe/x14t00.png
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>>8117702
How do I get euler dy?
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>>8117702
cfg+++ looks good
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>>8117708
interesting, was using those settings already
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>>8117718
https://github.com/Koishi-Star/Euler-Smea-Dyn-Sampler

>>8117720
axes were fucked up, >>8117717 is the correct one
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>>8117718
reforge or google it for the extension
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>>8117722
Still looks good.
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>>8117702
>>8117717
reForge has the eulers from >>8117722, but you can also install those samplers as an extension to A1111
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>>8115919
>>LOCAL FORGEUI
>Maintained branch:
When new OP that is not severely out of date? Forge is dead.
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>>8117717
0.1 ca_end_time
i dont think this composition angle benefits much from adjustments to perspective
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>>8117727
maintained by someone else
that's the beauty of open source
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>>8117727
>>8116666
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>>8117729
Sure, but not the one linked in OP, that's ReForge.
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>>8117731
Showing me the concept of a fixed OP doesn't help. Actually fix the damn OP. You guys have had months to do so.
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>>8117723
>>8117722
You have to install it like an extension?
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>>8117667
I only use the anime model. If those are furry tags, that would explain it.
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>>8117728
0.2, had some connection issues
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>>8117736
and 0.3 is extra crispy, not worth posting
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posting a gen
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but with this i think ill choose euler a cfg++ moving forward
you have to adjust CFG a lot more with it though, here >>8117717 it's at 1.5 to about equal euler a at 5.0, and here cfg++ is at 2.8
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>>8117733
I made that today but OPs are a meme though
Nobody here is new
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>>8117605
>>8117615
style isn't just making an image more aesthetically pleasing
there are plenty of strong artist tags on nai that end up changing the composition and affecting the entire image in a positive way, it leads to images that are more varied and interesting, angles, poses, everything, purely because you prompted good artists

pony has this to some degree with few of its strong artist tags, but most of them are too weak or hashed
you can achieve something close to that if you use a good lora on a base pony
yet most seem to prefer to use shitmixes, which is okay, but faggots will use them and then complain pony looks the same and they're tired of it
clueless
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>>8117744
only time we'll have to worry about a new op is whenever le next big thing comes out and people come swarming back to spam posts
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what is the point of cfg++ it seems like a meme
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>>8117749
it is
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though really im just impressed by how well euler a has held up. pour one out for the OG Leonhard Euler
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>>8117745
I want to add to that, character used also have influence on pose/artstyle/angles on pony, I was having a hard time doing a pose, just removed the character entirely and used the result as a CN after getting good gen instantly
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>>8117749
https://cfgpp-diffusion.github.io/
Use it with 1.5 CFG and Reforge Euler A cfg ++
It seems to work for me when doing complex stuff like 69/etc (less extra limbs/etc..)
But who knows kek
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>>8117748
I think ultimately an OP should have basic information about <the thing> and be a vault for community resources
We just don't really have the latter unlike other generals
>>8117749
It basically is
>>8117751
I've used it the most all this time and mostly because it has a softer style that's better for anime images imho
Smea Dy now
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>>8117758
How many steps and what cfg for smea dy?
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>>8117760
35 and 5
i wish it didn't break with denoising tho, having to switch back to euler a for inpainting is sad because it's like half as smart
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>>8117759
confettitune anon is that you?
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https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-reForge/discussions/61 If using CFG++ samplers on reForge
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>((curvy)),((wide hips))
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also maybe uniform sampling better than AYS for cfg++
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>>8117766
Can confirm, CFG 1 with changed negs is hash perfect
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>>8117776
well not hash but yeah
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>>8117763
<3
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>>8117781
>nogen
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>>8117784
new model when
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>>8117781
NTA but most of us just use AI to coom anon,we're not zooming in looking at paint strokes. Pony can make fat ass gabi's in my preferred style and that's all I need in life.
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>>8117769
nvm they still do the same thing as before with the weird dupes even at 1.5cfg
smea dy 5cfg on top
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>>8117788
Latest is the 12 July one -- moreconfettialpha.3 -- I've been working on pruning/replacing/balancing the dataset. I started adding more of the pics I like, and it unbalanced it. :\
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Thoughts on this in the OP?
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>>8117800
No, it's just plain wrong.
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>>8117802
how so?
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>>8117781
the way you write make you sound like an absolute dumb retard, which fits since you completely missed the point
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Pretty funny how polluted the white backgrounds are in the non dy samplers
But it also proves that Smea Dy is the outlier in logic, since dy and a have the same dupes as the ++s
I have to see if pure dy breaks in inpainting too
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>the dude baiting about nai and pony being shit was posting normal posts about using smea too
lol
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>>8117808
dumbass
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>>8117766
well thats dumb
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>>8117802
Prove.
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>>8117806
>I have to see if pure dy breaks in inpainting too
No it doesn't
But now that I started trying to compare it to Smea Dy... Smea Dy stopped breaking my inpainting and upscaling??? WTF how
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1boy, 1girl, standing, reverse grip handjob
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>>8117821
bending fingers backwards? that just happens once in a while on its own
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>>8117821
1girl, lower body, plump, disembodied hands, belly grab, squirting
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Ok I don't know wth happened but my Smea Dy inpainting and upscaling is suddenly cured. Good?
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>>8117824
Ok no it still bleaches it a bit, so does regular dy
It was less visible with the style
Euler a still has the least color shift
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I'm finding reforge's output to be worse than forge. Same parameters, same prompts, but reforge images come out with more anatomical errors and stuff like that
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>>8117829
is clip skip correctly working?
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xenoblade 3 scenery lora 2.0 came out ok i think
https://files.catbox.moe/67nef1.png
tested out LLM captioning and i'm overall pretty satisfied with it, i just used "describe the image with 10 descriptors separated by commas" and it gave me a functional prompt about 100% of the time. i think that i need to go through and just label what region the screenshots were taken in to improve consistency, though.
i also tried doing b-lora without b-lora and i think that sort of sucked though. it didn't learn the style but the overall content learning isn't amazing, it's got a lot of the vibes right but there's a distinct lack of stuff like half arch mountains you see in the game.
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>>8117829
It shouldn't happen, at least with main branch (which is mostly a1111 changes). dev_branch for sure changes seeds since it is basically comfy upstream backend, but not worse necessarily.
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>>8117838
I am on main branch. And I'm talking about things like pic related. The tiny arm on Reforge, right, is weird.
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>>8117833
I zoom in... and I see a white blob...
must be the cum on my glasses
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>>8117846
Huh pretty weird, there are some changers from a1111 upstream on sd_samplers_cfg_denoiser I guess that could affect it, but not sure at that point if it's rng or sothing else.

The change on that file is mostly because new schedulers though.
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>>8117878
fuck off to /aco/
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>>8117882
what order am i supposed to read this
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>>8117885
just a batch lol
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>>8117833
Very interesting results. I'll try this on wuwa one of these days.
>describe the image with 10 descriptors separated by commas
Why did you decide to do it this way? Was Tagger not working with backgrounds? I'm surprised pony even understands.
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>>8117897
when will your model stop having that fried blotchy look
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>>8117913
that looks like bad sampler/scheduler combo
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>>8117891
WD taggers do work with backgrounds, they just aren't as good
as an example:
https://files.catbox.moe/v75l71.png
ConvNextV3: scenery, outdoors, sky, solo, campfire, day, fire, sitting, grass, 1girl, blonde hair, rock
llava-v1.6-mistral-7b-hf: rocky, mountainous, rugged, wilderness, natural landscape, campfire, fire pit, grassland, blue sky, clouds, green vegetation, stone formation, serene, tranquil, picturesque
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The controlnet info in OP is outdated right? What's the new repo called again?
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what it is not outdated in the OP?
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>>8115919
can you guys do lucy from zenless zone?
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>>8117925
nah
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>>8117926
:(
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>>8117918
>ConvNextV3
Wait how did you install this? What folder do I put the files in?
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>>8117930
https://github.com/picobyte/stable-diffusion-webui-wd14-tagger maybe it comes with this, i'm not sure i've had these installed for a long time
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>>8117913
Colorblind anon. Literally don't see it. Circle it for me.
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>>8117918
CogAgent is pretty good with backgrounds if you ask it to describe the background.

>>8117913
I do grab a lot of my images from artbooks -- is it the physical medium thing you are seeing? pic related - one of the yoshida training images.
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>>8117942
i have a 10gb gpu
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fuck you pony you bloody bastard
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>>8117939
pretty sure he's talking about the artstyle, with how it's shaded more like a sketch than anything. plus the slightly melty lines / fine details. post a gen with a smooth artstyle if you would (for comparisons sake)
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>>8117938
V3 is supposed to be the new model that was just released and the files there haven't been updated in ages. I deleted the extension and reinstalled just in case and I still don't see it.
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>>8117948
https://github.com/picobyte/stable-diffusion-webui-wd14-tagger/pull/101
i'm using this pr probably
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>>8117951
Huh, thanks.
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>>8117951
ty anon
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>>8117947
Asura maybe?
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>>8117945
ooof anon. I just loaded it up to see how much 4bit cog agent takes --- 13 GB. lol. Do you use taggui? One of the other 4-bit LLM's might fit. I use an edited version of SD3's prompt. Describe the image in two complete sentences using the following tags as context: {tags}. Please specify the backgrounds within the image, interactions, and gestures or poses. Please keep your descriptions factual and terse but complete. DO NOT add any unnecessary speculation about the things that are not part of the image such as "the image is inspiring to viewers" or "seeing this makes you feel joy". DO NOT add things such as "creates a unique and entertaining visual", as these descriptions are interpretations and not a part of the image itself. The description should be purely factual, with no subjective speculation. Include the medium of the image (e.g., watercolor, pastel, 3D render, oil painting). If the image is explicit, use slang and be explicit. Limit your response to 75 tokens.
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>>8117925
https://civitai.com/models/557260/lucy-zenless-zone-zero-luciana-auxesis-theodoro-de-montefio-ponyxl
Does this look like the character? If so, it could be attempted. Not by me tho.
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What character should I make next? Preferably a Bleach or Persona character.
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>>8117979
Harribel from bleach
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>>8117946
what happend?!?
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>>8117981
I tried
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>>8117999
box?
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>>8117999
need to see her sweaty in the gym
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all this madness, pretty much solved if we had an actual request anchor. so we can be busy doing requests instead of doomposting
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>>8118001
sounds fun lemme see
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>>8117989
it just wont let me gen a proper breast press pov from above hug
yes its a skill issue
yes its probably a lora issue
no i wont use controlnet
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>>8118001
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>>8118007
very nice, can you do any without the outfit with whatever lora you are on?

also Yoruichi next
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>>8118008
Yeah I think she can wear whatever, Yoruichi sounds fun
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resonance lite 1b has already surpassed pony you just need to know how to use it
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>>8118014
we heard same thing about sd3
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>>8118015
resonance lite 1b has already surpassed sd3 you just need to know how to use it
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>>8118015
no not really
even comfyanon stopped supporting sd3 and sai in general pretty quickly after SD3 came out, and theres still no sd3 finetune
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>>8118014
I actually made a model myself that I trained with a secret technology I developed, its on the lvl of NAIv5 so im quite ahead of the retard here
No I wont post gen
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>>8118006
if you need a lora then its a model issue
if a lora doesnt exist because the model is just that retarded then its even more of a model issue
tldr fuck pony indeed
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>>8118018
don't think it was a challenge in first place
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>>8117967
yeah thats the character
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>>8118008
Not a huge fan of the Yoruichi Lora I found
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Where are the secret japanese lora databases?
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>>8118032
huggingface has a ton of stuff if you search for something you may want, just gotta dig. Some anons have posted good links from stuff there but I don't have the links anymore.
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>>8118032
seconding this
pretty sure some jap baker is more autistic about lucky star wives than me
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>>8118032
speaking mainly about 5ch, but the reason there isn't any secret database is that there are generally two types of japanese lora posters: those who use civitai and huggingface normally and those who only post links that expire in a day in a single thread (as a way of making sure that only thread regulars can use them)
>>8118038
i don't recall seeing many lucky star posters in 5ch desu
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>>8118042
>post links that expire in a day in a single thread
people do that here too
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>>8118045
i think that's pretty rare here (unless somebody is accidentally using litterbox or something), but in 5ch it happens pretty much every single thread
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>>8118042
>i don't recall seeing many lucky star posters in 5ch desu
so japan has fallen huh...
>>8118045
only cathag anon and fat lora (>200mb) posters
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>>8118046
someone should make a script that download litterbox and archive them but to be honest all of the lora from the megalink that was poste were shit so the quality is probably low
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>>8118042
I mean there must be at least one autist in 5ch hoarding every single lora nip anons post... I just wish we could have access to that.
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"ss_gradient_accumulation_steps": "50",
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>>8118024
What's wrong with it?
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>>8117999
>>8118007
>>8118013
How did you get the tattoo to be so clean? Fucking Miku's 01 doesn't come out like that.
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>>8118052
>I just wish we could have access to that.
I'd rather we learned to bake as good as them so we don't have to put up with their litterbox bullshit.
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>>8118063
nah i'm pretty sure that the best bakers here mog their bakers hard (tagging alone is very hard for nips since their english fucking sucks)
the difference is that they're actually into anime and manga and eroge and games so they have more interesting characters
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>>8118024
Just use the top rated lora on civitai bro?
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>>8118065
Well if lora content is the problem, if anons could gather the datasets we could have /hdg/ bakes around the clock. You only need 30 pics minimum anyway.
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>>8118065
>so they have more interesting characters
that mega had maitetsu character loras, japs are too based for /hdg/
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>>8118065
not just nips
>find a guy whose style I really like
>he is russian
>check his metadata
>schizo prompt, spelling mistake everywhere
>somehow works fine
>if I copy the prompt and fix the mistakes+ remove the useless tag it just doesnt work anymore
>cant even copy his style for some reason
Just russian magic I guess
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>>8118076
kek i know that feel
maybe treating the english language like a black box and throwing random shit at the TE has its perks sometimes
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I remember these threads being x20 times happier on 1.5slop days, and 1.5 is obviously miles inferior compared to what we have today, hell even EF + hll was so good in that moment, what just happened?
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Is it just me, or is this NAI prompt very pony esque in its bordering/shading
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>>8118083
always more hype when something is new
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>>8118083
melanin rich male spam unattended for two months killed this thread effectively
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>>8118084
might be because tracer has a lot of 3d pictures
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>>8118090
>the tech was rapidly and visibly progressing week by week
this simply wasn't true for most of the previous year
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>>8118083
>giant steps after original NAI leaked up to 6 months after
vs
>poignant stagnation of the XL days
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>>8118092
That's exactly my point, or are you just agreeing with me.
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>>8118083
what we have today is at best a sidegrade. a tradeoff. 1.5 was limited but it was honest. what we got out of it were earnest attempts to make the best model possible. with sdxl we get intentionally sabotaged soapbox releases that take more pride in preaching about what the model removes than what it adds (pony, sd3, fluffyrock ultimate). and then you have the people promising to 'do things differently' yet failing every step of the way.
novelai v3 remains looming above everyone's heads as proof that SDXL can be way better than what is currently available locally. we are just stuck dealing with drama and failbakes for over half a year now while nothing really gets done.
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>>8118097
I blame novelai for keeping their secret bake technique to themselves
but I would have done the same
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Can someone help me figure out which part of this prompt is producing so many blue man group mother fuckers? Shit is like every 3rd gen.
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>>8118113
>nai
well theres your problem. cant believe people pay for that defunct garbage
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>>8118118
there is a reason why nai is paid access and pony is free (please use pony)
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>>8118113
consider fucking off to /aco/ and asking there, faget.
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>>8118113
What anime is this
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>>8118128
>when the schizo can't bring himself to type faggot
kek

Nigger.
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maybe llms are also bad at captioning landscapes
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>>8117600
So it also works with A1111 but you have to put this config file next to the model (and rename it accordingly, remember EF+HLL): https://files.catbox.moe/d7ump1.yaml
Only DDIM, PLMS and UniPC samplers work as far as I tested due to A1111's retardation.
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>>8118142
i think that the bigger problem is that pony's TE is so fried that it probably doesn't understand llm captions at all
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>>8118148
Yeah the TE feels like is only listens half the time, even then youd have to sit there and experiment which tokens are valid or not.
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downloading other people's loras is always a great self esteem boost
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>>8118168
that bad huh
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>>8118168
post it
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>>8118171
>>8118172
https://civitai.com/models/530102/strappadoxl?modelVersionId=622054
200mb, 10 tokens to get it to work and afaik it does nothing
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>>8118168
civitai users don't count as "people"
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>>8118178
jfc
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>>8118147
what the h*ck is this?
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>>8118147
Anon... this is shit
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>>8118186
V-prediction lora for Arti/Neta
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>>8118194
i still dont get it
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>>8118200
That's okay, many don't get it either.
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>>8117059
It was better when the girl was tan desu
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>>8117062
box? I like the style
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I wish I'd stop reading this thread before bed every night. in a way, it's like a calming bed time ritual. in another, I feel like I'm setting up my subconscious mind with bad vibes...
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Going through all innate sdxl artists. Wish me luck bros
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>>8118239
For me it's having to then open it up every morning and check replies
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>>8118242
And see no (You)s
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>>8118242
>>8118239
/hdg/ intervention
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>>8118240
https://rikkar69.github.io/SDXL-artist-study/pages/A.html
these?
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>>8118246
This one
https://sdxl.parrotzone.art/

but your link is good too
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Getting the AI to disambiguate dark-skinned females (based) from dark-skinned males (ew) is a challenge, but it's one I'm willing to meet.

Anyone have any tips?
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>>8118250
Sometimes certain artists help, but most of the time I would draw black blob over dark female and white blob on white male and img2img
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>>8118250
on Pony you can prompt white penis
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How can I nudify a clothed image? There's img2img models right? I've only used LLMs before, I have 2 3090s
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>>8118253
linux btw
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>>8118250
>looking for related tags to dark-skinned male so I can exclude high overlap tags
>fifth highest tag, over everything except synonyms and 1girl/1boy, is male focus

Holy shit I knew bbc fetishists were closet gays and that blacked porn was blatantly homoerotic, but lmao, to see it in the data so clearly...

To put what I'm saying explicitly since I don't think groid posters would understand otherwise: putting male focus into the negs will make males noticeably less dark because such a significant fraction of the dark-skinned male dataset is thinly veiled gay porn that is entirely male focused. Blacked artists are so gay that they have made the AI think that any picture with dark-skinned males is inherently homoerotic.
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>>8118256
gays or women
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>>8118256
>when it works
lmfao
>>8118252
NAI has next to know natural english comprehension left (it's very overtrained on the TE side), but I figure that black man and white man would be so common in the original sdxl training set that some vestige of them might still survive.

>>8118259
God I wish I could find it, but there was a survey of sex differences in sexual fetishes that is how many men vs how many women have a certain sexual fetish.

IIRC two of the fetishes with the largest male skew were black male porn and foot porn (I guess women just aren't into men's feet that way)
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>>8118200
1. https://arxiv.org/abs/2006.11239
2. https://arxiv.org/abs/2202.00512
3. https://arxiv.org/pdf/2305.08891
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>>8117908
nya
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>>8118181
>1WOMAN
sovl
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>>8118250
NAIv4 will fix it.
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>>8118261
women are also statistically less racist so that makes sense
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>>8118274
I think I finally found a fairly consistent prompt. The key was actually emphasizing 1girl (strategically placed near dark skin). The model always tends to interpret tags nearer to each other together, and emphasizing the 1girl tag should make the nearby dark skin tags latch onto that instead of the 1boy.

I am, however, somewhat concerned by the model's choice to put my white guy in what appears to be sweatpants and an ill fitting plain white t-shirt. What is the AI trying to say here?
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I tried out prodigy after seeing comments in this thread and here is my comparison, I don't think I am switching over yet
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>>8118276
isekai protagonist?
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>>8118279
what were your adam lrs and scheduler?
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>>8118283
adam 0.003 unet, TE 0.0005
both cosine
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the LoRA is also less adaptable to applying a different style
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>>8118285
in my experience prodigy is easier to throw styles at but adam is better for characters
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>>8118284
what about the main one? 0.0001?
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>>8118289
there is no "main one", it would be overwritten by both the others being set
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>>8118291
huh why does everyone provide all three always then
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>>8118294
not read their documentation
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>>8118296
that's funny
anyway both of what you said sound pretty high, did you miss a zero? 0.0003 and 0.00005 sound more in line with what i heard
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>>8117741
Box?
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>>8118300
no, i've been using those settings for ages now and they seem fine
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>>8118305
okok i'll try em
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>be ayymdbab on windows
>anon recommends forge
>try to run it
>it somehow cannot load in the model no matter what i do
honestly fuck leather jacket man for making CUDA closed source
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>>8118311
fuck aymdlmaoos for being constant second fiddles for 15 years and not making their own
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>>8118113
try playing with your order, especially for 1girl/1boy
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>>8118312
fair enough i guess though i have no idea how much time it takes to make one also kinda hard to do when all the people who know this stuff already work at nvidia
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>>8118294
it's there by default and there's no reason to bother deleting it every single time
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>>8118316
They have their own compute stack, just not on windows.
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>>8118320
well fuck
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>>8118316
i don't think it's easy to challenge monopolies but I think AYMD grew comfortable in that 15% userbase place
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>>8118329
They have the console market locked down and are doing well with their cpus and enterprise stuff. From a shareholder perspective it would be stupid to allocate tons of resources just to claw some marketshare back from nvidia.
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>>8118311
just use ZLUDA
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lol
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>>8118334
abomination
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>>8118334
what's that style?
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>>8117913
>talking shit about the model
oh no no, you can stop right there
https://litter.catbox.moe/t4xez0.png
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>>8118305
>>8118307
>came out utterly fried, red or black screens
bruh moment
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>>8118338
This >>8117600 and (by abmayo:1.05), by clearite
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>>8118333
tried it already,didn't work
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>>8118344
You have 3 options
>Bow to the nvidijew
>Bow to the saasjew
>Find salvation in the penguins embrace
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>>8118304
Sure but it's a mess, and I don't mean the noodles. https://litter.catbox.moe/bolb6v.png

Pose is anytest CN failing when I ran it at just 0.33 strength, gave me this instead.

Hentao lora is mine:
https://files.catbox.moe/kowq66.safetensors
it does extreme hourglass figures and torpedo tits, like Raita but looks better with trace of abs.
E-note is in one of the megas, it makes those unique nipples and is otherwise loli.
Qwert6969 is in the rentry. It's trained on NAI images from a guy who doesn't inpaint, so it breaks fingers if used by itself.
Also Kagami Hirotaka and 3D in the prompt itself.
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>>8118344
what card do you have? anything 6800 and above should work fine.
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>>8118344
I got an Nvidia only because of anime4k and I'm so glad I did
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absolute death
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>>8118383
whats wrong with her nippol
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>>8118350
yeah i'm thinking about the penguin
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>>8118384
they're huge
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>>8118384
Nothing, it's just nipples on her nipples.
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>>8118275
>>8118259
Statiscally the women in hdg hate blacked porn. B-sama...
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>>8118391
it looks like she has batteries sticking out of her tit
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>>8118383
>arti users think this is peak performance female anatomy, unironically.
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>>8118392
they're like stoppers
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>>8118394
that's just an inner nipple, they come out out of outer nipples when the girl is aroused
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>>8118393

Statistically
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>>8118398
>inner nipple
>outer nipple
so girls have 4 total nipples?
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>>8118395
Not an arti user but I agree. Big milk tanks with small faucets is impractical.
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>>8118398
Nigga the movie alien wasn't a hentai. Not even your own mother breastfed you, you're so unfamiliar with nipples.
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>>8118401
He's the other kind of closet gay in hentai. Instead of male focus blacked porn, he can only get off by turning female body parts into quasi erections
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>>8118401
Actually, the inner nipples have nipples too, but they only come out during orgasm, so it's six.
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>>8118402
her nipples have nipples.
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>>8118395
seethe and dilate
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>>8118383
this looks disgusting in a way I can't explain even if it had normal nips. maybe seething artfaga were right after all, maybe autists shouldn't have been allowed an imaginative outlet
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>>8118415
>maybe autists shouldn't have been allowed an imaginative outlet
Oh no ChrisChan and his pikachu sonic OC is a national treasure at this point
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>>8118412
>arti users think this is peak vaginal anatomy, unironically.
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>>8118412
Why the FUCK is arti so bad at drawing 1girls?? (or humans in general) You'd think they have at least a couple million examples in their dataset... Is it THAT hard to train a model properly???
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>>8118418
>Is it THAT hard to train a model properly???
If it wasn't hard then we'd have more than like 3 viable options to pick from
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>>8118416
I can't look at that in good jest any more after he repeatedly raped his elderly dementia ridden mother.
>>8118412
how do you even inpaint to mess it up this bad holy moly.
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>>8118418
Probably, yeah. Consider the only good model we have is pony and everyone complains how bad it is.
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>>8118420
that's not a difficulty barrier its a compute issue. you could go in blind and get better results than euge, as evidenced by tiny sdxl fintetunes the community has successfully done. they can't scale because it costs too much, not because its fucking rocket science
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>>8118421
>I can't look at that in good jest any more after...
yeah no, hes pretty irredeemable at this point

>>8118418
Expensive, and time consuming, but I think both NAI v3 and Pony serve as good proof of concepts as what a properly trained checkpoint can do given their unique shortcomings
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>>8118422
pony isn't the only good model tho, it's just the only one fully trained on NSFW. arti guy did something stupid
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>>8118393
From what I've gathered, most black guys and women hate blacked porn or are indifferent towards it. It's a fetish almost exclusive to white and asian cucks.
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>Random trooncord user proves something is wrong with cascade or jordachs code, plain as day evidence
>jordach: no there isnt!!!!

Is it the autism? This behaviour makes me lose my last bit of hopium for 3.6B.
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>>8118421
inpainting is for the weak
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>>8117939
>Colorblind
Huh.. that explains some things.
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>>8118446
But where is the screenshot?
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>>8118439
Don't forget jews and jeets.
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>>8118451
Im not that big of a faggot.
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>>8118450
There are dozens of us
https://files.catbox.moe/s739xf.png
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>>8118453
Jews own the business, I don't think they're really the consumers in this case. Unless you include the liberal söyjews.
Have no idea about jeets desu, maybe. Feels like they just furiously masturbate at anything vaguely resembling a female.
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>>8118439
Again it's racism
I literally could not tell you one time where a black dude in porn wasn't presented as some roided up ultradominant giant dicked muscular tyrant kek
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>>8118460
One jew owns the business. Whether it's a worldwide cabal or not, most jews are still regular people.
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>>8118449
>instead of an asshole she has a second vagina
>within her vagina is a 2nd then 3rd clit
how are you managing such mangled gens, its an art of its own...
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>>8118462
Yeah of course, it's just usually people refer to the cabal or the religious ones when talking about "Jews" on 4chan.
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it's time already huh?
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>>8118465
hammer time?
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>>8118469
miami vice best new show!
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>>8118457
U can always catbox it, stay as a liar then
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>>8118463
It reminds me of the multiple anuses of the 1.5 days, but I've never seen multivag before.
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>>8118463
>>instead of an asshole she has a second vagina
That's the hentai back pussy
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>>8118474
Nah, multivag happened quite often, especially when genning sex.
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Bros, I can't. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna come
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>>8118477
Need to gen mouthpussy.
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>>8118477
It's her yaoi hole?
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>>8118352
can I get links to the mega and the rentry? I am struggling to find them. Love the style.
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Thoughts on adding the tagger and dataset tag editor under training?
>>8116666
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>>8118483
NTA but is should be under: "Megauploads/Other rentries with files too large for catbox"
https://rentry.org/ponyxl_loras_n_stuff
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>>8118473
Dont blame me if you get filtered by having to sign up to something with a throw away email.
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>>8118483
I also struggled to find which mega it is since we have so many now, but it "should" be this one https://mega.nz/folder/iZcDnbiC#Yrxa1yRPxVd9F4pQQKuYpw
Unless someone else made one for the same artist, it has happened before...
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>have guy repeatedly commissioning me for pics of his OC x a league character
this aint half bad
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>>8118459
cabbox?
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>>8118491
its nai
notice the melt and overall low quality
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>>8118490
So you make a lora of the OC, or NAI?
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>>8118494
the male OC is just some dude so i can just send it to inpaint sketch and crudely draw in features and let inpaint sort it out
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>negpip can get rid of the pony look
>Also gets rid of all anatomical knowledge and turns it into arti
owari da
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>tfw not keeping up with updates
>still on forge installation from march
i don't feel like i'm missing out on a lot
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>>8118499
based
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>>8118493
local never produces any sort of melt. i love the sharpness and clean lines and immaculate shading local gens like >>8118412
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>>8118499
the new samplers and schedulers are nice
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>>8118501
I mean, this is arti.
Pony gens, on the other hand, are immaculate and artistic.
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>>8118493
either way there's no metadata
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>>8118499
It takes 5 minutes to go from forge to reForge but yeah I don't feel like I've been missing much
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they fear Euge because he has no limits
only his second model and its the quality increase is insane
just imagine what version 3 will look like
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>>8118497
there is no pony look
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>>8118501
I know you're shitposting but I feel like it comes down to the skill (issue) of the prompter at the end of the day. Melted shit isnt gonna magically disappear if you use some guy's model who's obsessed with cartoon horses or the 25 dollar paycuck one
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>>8118505
What do you mean? Pony already caught up.
It has loras and you can train any style or style mix you like for pony. That's the power of loras.
>>8118509
This.
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Why do even anons think they have a duty to protect Pony from the likes of Arti unironically?
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>can't tell if the labels belong to the images before or after
>just wait for Stonetoss to load
So many of these styles look similar, or get completely overpowered by using scores in the previews.
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>>8118513
tribalism
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>>8118509
The pony look is
>Shiny skin/hair and inability to not produce over exaggerated highlights regardless of lighting and style
>Think and smooth lineart (This can be somewhat remedied with the lineart lora)
>Gradients and an inability to do solid colored surfaces
>Sepia and small color range
If you can't see these things you simply haven't been here long enough
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>>8118514
>got my stuff uploaded there
>anon must've fried them with style tags because they look nothing like my examples
>>8118513
tribadism
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>>8118513
trifeforceism
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What's the best way to describe different characters in the same prompt? I remember there was an extension once upon a time relating to this, splitting the image in 2 or something. Right now, even with BREAK, it's merging the details of each character together on both characters
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>>8118519
Use Forge Couple or Regional Prompter
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>>8118514
kek
https://files.catbox.moe/4qq3bk.png
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>>8118513
Arti is just too good, they sense danger.
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>>8118509
The pony look is
>Beautiful smooth skin and realistic hair
>Adjustable lineart (This can be changed with style hashes and tag association)
>Pretty gradients and color depth on surfaces
>Perfectly replicated colors, although the XL vae is a bit grey
If you can't see these things you simply haven't been here long enough
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>>8118516
>Sepia and small color range
I think this is the worst and the least correctable one. Trash colors on pony are the thing that no shitmix or lora or extension is able to overcome. You can, with due diligence, defeat the incredibly ugly linework/shading of pony now, but the shit color range and contrast never goes away, you really do need to have a proper model for that.
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>>8118524
>I think this is the worst and the least correctable one.
It's actually pretty simple
>don't use jeetquality tags
>it's magically all fixed
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>>8118517
I think he added all the ones not inside mega folders. But yeah some look spot on while others look like generic pony.
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>>8118524
>defeat the incredibly ugly linework/shading of pony now
still not a single decent kiato lora available
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>>8118525
Big if true
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>>8118528
The only genuine color issue with Pony is the greyness but that's a problem with XL not Pony. There are fixed up VAEs but they break inpainting.
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>>8118529
Glad you're enjoying yourself with pony.
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>>8118530
Me too?
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>>8118504
Somehow lost it along the way. Basically same as this one except pov across bed instead.
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>>8118486
>>8118489
thanks boys
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Why can't we make some 2.5m image 100xLR anime only finetune of SD3? How expensive would that be?
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>>8118537
I already explained yesterday that it's having someone who knows what they're doing that's the problem not cash
The entire hobby is upheld by five brainiacs and everyone else is a leech
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>>8118539
litetally every possible problem with model training is solvable with throwing cash at it
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>>8118539
>having someone who knows what they're doing that's the problem not cash
lol, lmao
the best local model was trained by a guy who doesn't know how to train loras and doesn't know what caption dropout is, but who has 120k+ worth of hardware
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>>8118539
>Jordach
>Astralite
>Neggles
>Lycon
Which brainiac am i missing?
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>>8118542
litetally every possible problem with [insert your thing] is solvable with throwing cash at it
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>>8118544
delete lykon and neggles, add euge, linaqruf, and kohaku blueleaf
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>>8118544
you're talking about meme discord bakers i'm talking about the people making the software
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>>8118545
yes, it's just a matter of how much cash you realistically need
5k bucks is literally nothing when it comes to training unless you are an actual genius trainer (and no one is)
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>>8118546
>>8118544
>BIGWILLY
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>>8118547
retard
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>>8118542
That's the thing, I could give every anon here a million dollars today and we would not have a good model to use in two months.
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>>8116644
catbox please?
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>>8118552
give the confetti finetune anon alone 100k and pony will be dead in a few months
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>>8118552
for a million dollars anon could hire someone who'd train the model for him
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>>8118549
retard
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>>8118556
that hurt
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>>8118551
that hurt
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>>8118549
If you don't own the hardware you'll easily need over 20k to reach a decent epoch on a large scale SDXL finetune. And that's already assuming you aren't putting money into new tagging methods etc. Just look at how much Cascade project has burnt through and they barely have anything to show for it. It will realistically need many more epochs than they're planning to be truly good, but they'll cut it off prematurely anyway. And if you don't want to burn your model into oblivion like pony did, it'll cost even more because the bake will need to be longer to compensate for the non fried LR.
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>>8118561
>meanwhile furfags are thriving
They're still running 1.5 lmao. The only non 1.5 furry bake right now is cascade and the majority of their donations are not just from one animu trooncord user, but from here.
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post kagami and fuck off already
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>>8118561
>meanwhile furfags are thriving
they really aren't, this meme was spouted by ef fanatics. actual furries are second-class citizens with pony as well.
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>>8118564
your obsession is not cute or endearing anymore, fuck off already
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>>8118563
I thought pony was more than furry enough.
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>>8118563
almost all of their donations are from a single rich guy who donated 7.3k
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Is that 2ch lurker anon still here? What do the actual japs think about pony?
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>>8118570
I think the vast majority of them just use NAI just because the PC market in Japan is kind of ass so I assume local genning isn't as popular
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>>8118569
lmao now that i look at the page again it seems like he's up to 9.3k now
i wonder what makes that guy trust this cascade bake so much, or maybe he's so rich that this is pocket money to him
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>>8118571
don't they make a lot of loli loras though
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>>8118537
I can tell you something, the finetune is usable not because of anime pics, not at all. Pony has a total of 500k anime images, that's even lower than naiv1, and 500k is 1/5 of the total dataset of pony. It's because of tags. The capability of this model to use e6 tags + some NL captions (which captions are proven not to be the best thing for a TE, but it's definitely better than an image with 5 tags at most) is the reason why, even after astracukie fried it's TE and UNet, is still the base model we mainly use today, and to train loras and for our mixes too. Yes, having a fried TE and UNet is terrible for LoRA training, but we eventually have found our own way to make things work at least. And yes, score tags are the most retarded thing ever, but he did something that barely any baker does today (for a big finetune): he curated the dataset.
>but MUH GPO, CES
Yeah, CES is a token bleed from feces, GPO is maybe some shenaningans that is probably something related to the fried TE. Things like that, but this doesn't changes the fact that he curated the dataset even a little bit, in any form or way.
>theres a lot of tags that directly doesnt work or are very inconsistent
Yeah he did curated the dataset A BIT, not literally re-tagged the entire thing. I mean he even said this finetune was kinda a yolo attempt, a thing we can clearly see.
Curating 2.5m images sounds like a real pain in the ass and is probably the main reason why no baker wants to do it when they have a dataset size superior to 1m images.
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>>8118571
I believe it's their second biggest market besides Americans
Hence all the trips to Japan and all the jap text on their site
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>>8118570
my friend just uses the civitai generator, and as far as training goes, it looks like a good chunk also trains on civitai too
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btw lately NAI has been getting plenty of issues with payments
can't buy gift keys and it's not known when it's going back
can't pay with a lot of debit and gift cards now, a lot of shit gets rejected
don't know if it's their internal issues or paddle is starting to fuck them
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>>8118577
payment processors and fucking with AI generators, name a more iconic duo
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>>8118568
The furrys don't use pony, that should be all you need to know about how furry it really is. It is a pony model, even the deranged furfags consider bronies to be a different breed of cess.
>>8118569
That's what I meant when I said most of their donations were from a single animu trooncord user. The money is not coming from furfags.
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>>8118574
>thinking again of curating images
>the space required would be enourmous
>all the hentai sites are also fucking utterly trash with uploads and tagging, each having their own system, each using different tags, each having thousands of notagged images unlike furshit, requiring to manually make a new tagging solution to get anything usable
>most of them are filled with western shit too, permanently poisoning any future model
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>>8117021
If promax is so good, why is nobody talking about it? :^)
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>test bake finally looking promising
Haven't seen that in a while.
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>>8118577
It might push them to finally look at crypto payments. I'd have no issue paying 25$ if it was anonymous and using money I would have to tax otherwise.
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>>8118574
>captions are proven not to be the best thing for a TE
>but we eventually have found our own way to make things work at least
>And yes, score tags are the most retarded thing ever
>Yeah he did curated the dataset A BIT, not literally re-tagged the entire thing.
You make wild assumptions and don't provide any evidence. You don't even know what astralite did to his model yet attempt to make conclusions and decide something.
>Yeah, CES is a token bleed from feces,
What would you expect out of prompting (ces:1.5) anyway?
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uncensored dalle endpoint, sadly it can't draw
pussies so it makes balls
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>>8118570
they're much more positive about it than people here. when pony was newer there were lots of people complaining about the westoid artstyle, but as they got better at controlling it with loras and merges they don't seem to mind the pony style too much by now. maybe part of why they don't talk as much shit about pony and astralite is that nips sometimes seem reluctant to shittalk americans too much for some reason.
>>8118571
no, most people who use stable diffusion in japan use pony, and going by the 5ch threads they tend to have pretty decent gpus.
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>>8118575
>>8118591
I stand corrected then. Cool to know.
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>>8118591
>is that nips sometimes seem reluctant to shittalk americans too much for some reason.
must be the army bases
kek
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>>8118590
have you tried "vagina"?
>uncensored dalle endpoint
how?
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>>8118574
>GPO is maybe some shenaningans that is probably something related to the fried TE.
GPO is bleed of gaping hole tokenizing gap ho

I hate Astrakike still
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>>8118597
aua?
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>>8118596
Azure has configurable filters for dalle and openai. By default they're enabled. But if you're a company and have a legit usecase, you can change those filters or disable them. The endpoint I have has the NSFW filter disabled (the one that checks the images after generation), but the prompt filter is STILL enabled, so I can't just say "vagina", and for nudity I have to say shit like "not nude, not naked".
I just scraped it.
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>>8118598
The other hashes are legitimate. Those two being bleed doesn't invalidate the others.
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>>8118574
>Curating 2.5m images sounds like a real pain in the ass and is probably the main reason why no baker wants to do it when they have a dataset size superior to 1m images.
im gonna get a stroke eventually after looking through ~600 images dataset for yet another tag review because of fucking pony, 1m images sounds rope-inducing
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>>8118597
this isn't true though
simply prompt gpo and gap ho in a fixed seed and that should be obvious
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>>8118602
I have to assume it's near automatic
NAI did some good job filtering the books for their modules in the leaked files but I highly doubt they hand filtered millions of files
But hand picking a few tens of thousands of images to make good automatization models also sounds rope inducing
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>>8118603
I have and they're the same. Try it yourself before claiming otherwise. I'm really tired of people not believing this because they kneejerk think it's some defense of astrakike. The other hashes are still legitimate, I'm not denying he hashed characters and artists, there are even discord screenshots of him admitting to it.
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>>8118599
I remember back when dalle released people on /g/ were prompting pretty wild shit with some artist tags and massage prompts (I think).
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>>8118591
Their gens are even worse than here though. They are more anime, sure, but they are so damn bad at it I feel sorry for them.
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>>8118602
Beg tree to set up a community site for it. Volunteers can submit untagged/tagged images or add tags to images already on the site. Dataset curation is the final frontier of AI so better start early
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>>8118605
M-maybe it's good that it's censored....
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>adamw bake looks better stylistically
>but completely ignores background color prompt and puts in a wholly colored background unlike prodigy
huh i don't even know what might be causing that when the rest of the setup is the same
is that actually the low TE training lr that did it?
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>>8118256
>Holy shit I knew bbc fetishists were closet gays
This is true
>blacked porn was blatantly homoerotic
This is false, but maybe I haven't watched as much blacked porn as you have. Judging by the pics people post here there's a strange focus on the guy's cock, even when the girl is there, which is disgusting but it's not any more gross than the typical solo futa, from below you'd see on /ddg/.
>that they have made the AI think that any picture with dark-skinned males is inherently homoerotic.
Interestingly, AI is actually pretty good at this. It doesn't associate dark skin with with BBC or cuckoldry like you do and can accurately tell the difference between an NTR image and your regular black self insert picture. The original anon's problem has more to do with nips liking contrast in skin tones. They always make sure the girls have pure white, shiny skin and make the guys darker and opaque which some retards interpreted and even tagged as dark skinned male. At the minimum AI feels like 1boy, 1girl must always have some degree of contrasting skin tones due to nips and so even when you attempt dark skinned male + dark skinned female it turns one of them white or at least much lighter than the other.
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>>8118592
>>8118605
can dall-e gen hiiragi kagami though?
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>>8118610
well yeah its undertrained on NSFW, it doesn't know pussies whatsoever
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>>8118606
it should be easy for you to post a catbox that proves this, then
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>>8118609
>Dataset curation is the final frontier of AI
The final frontier of AI is NOT to have a dataset curation, retard.
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>>8118611
Different seed, different result.
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>>8118614
>>8118610
I think the dalle model now is not the model we had back in october, they updated it few weeks ago, right?
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>>8118613
ill try
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>>8118618
it's the same seed anone
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>>8118612
>This is false, but maybe I haven't watched as much blacked porn as you have. Judging by the pics people post here there's a strange focus on the guy's cock, even when the girl is there, which is disgusting but it's not any more gross than the typical solo futa, from below you'd see on /ddg/.
do you unironically think futa isn't incredibly gay? futa degeneracy is the pipeline you go down when you're either easing into your closet gay or have become prison gay
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>>8118276
>What is the AI trying to say here?
What else did you expect when she's beaten and bruised?
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>>8118617
Can you at least prompt for "hole" or something like that? Or use extremely meticulous medical descriptions
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>>8118623
No I'm saying futa is gay, but that the large category of "blacked "porn" includes the closeted gay fetishist, straight people who like largely contrasting skin tones, and straight people who self insert.
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>>8118613
I don't think it knows her. This is with anime name + char name getting into the resulting prompt. This is also the natural style which makes it much more likely to generate a character if it's in the dataset.
https://files.catbox.moe/x8zrhs.png
https://files.catbox.moe/g88wep.png
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>>8118564
I can't get over how they're all seventeen but acting like either ten or severely retarded.
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>>8118623
I'm a fag and I don't like futa
It's for weird millennials who watched too much cartoons
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>>8118580
Yeap. The images available to make a very good model are already out there, it's just that boorus and image databases in general (with the exception of e6, an not even this one being perfect at all) are so poorly tagged, that if u try to do a finetune out of the unchanged tags, you would be doing the very same thing as doing a finetune out of LAION's dataset, it's the same effect: there's not enough consistency about what the image shows, related to the actual tag.
>>8118586
>You don't even know what astralite did to his model yet attempt to make conclusions and decide something.
I can only trust in what he said about using cogvlm do a pass to half the dataset, and also the fact that he pruned some tags, for example, loli. It is well known that this model can't make loli that easily, at least not by using the tag alone without using specific negs and positives. But yes, it's obviously my guess in the end, I just think it's the thing that would make sense. Additionally, I have trained some LoRAs in the past and I've got infinitely better results when I re-tagged everything again with a tagger, then I went to re tag everything by hand and results got even better, and that was because I did make sure to make the images to match the tags correctly. I even felt like it was learning faster and faster every time I tried to correct the tags. Was like 200 images for an old artist style LoRA, it took me hours to retag. My first try was when I scraped the images and tags with hydrus from boorus and trained with it. It went bad, really bad.
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>>8118615
I'm phone posting from work right now, so unless you want to wait 8+ hours for that catbox, retry it yourself. Takes 30 seconds for you to not be a lazy nigger.
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>>8118605
when coze was around desu i basically just used it for photo stuff, dall-e 3 is only good for /e/ level pics since penetration/genitals are a mess and even nipples get pseudo-censored a lot. But there's already masses of /e/-tier hentai and arguably pony/nai already do it about as well as dall-e 3 possibly could for most cases, hell even some other SDXL finetunes do, the reason pony's good is that it can do actual /h/ content which dall-e 3 can't do very nicely even without filters on it. whereas stable diffusion photorealistic stuff is not quite there for softcore or hardcore.
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fox, no pussy still
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>>8118279
What was your batch size?
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>>8118564
baking tsukasa rn, sorry
>>8118627
two more epoches? interestingly that iris are very consistent across all dall-e gens unlike any other model
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>>8118633
one girl sitting on the lap of another. a lolcal would have two strokes at the thought of such a prompt.
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>>8118631
i already tried it weeks ago and concluded that that theory is wrong, and i'm not going to prompt for gpo again
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>>8118636
first gen, ill try some more
https://files.catbox.moe/g2xbl3.png
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>>8118629
that's because you're out of the closet. repressed gays and prison gays (majority are the latter from what I've witnessed) are different. It's a similar phenomena to guys who troon out "to become the gf"
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>>8118279
upload your dataset and prompt I'll run the same thing on prodigy with different params.
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>>8118634
for training? 1
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>>8118639
That I could agree with
The vast majority of people who like futa and femboys have been closeted heterosexuals in my observation kek
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>>8118628
its only a tsukasa thing, she's clearly autistic
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>>8118623
How is futa incredibly gay? Gay people are not attracted to just dick they also like the body attached to it
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Why did OpenAI settled for a default pedophilic artstyle as anime anyway?
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>>8117561
>>8117582
Catbox?
>Had to reduce the resolution to hit the 4MB limit
Use this btw: https://github.com/fhanau/Efficient-Compression-Tool
Use the preset -5, it's the perfect balance.
It losslessly compresses your image so it doesn't affect quality at all.
Can easily save 50% space more or less, depending on image.
If you want faster and with better compression, you can just use mozjpeg at quality 95.
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>>8118645
>Why did OpenAI settled for an anime artstyle as anime anyway?
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>>8118637
No, you tried gaping hole, not gap ho vs gpo. I remember you, you ran the fuck away when other people agreed with my finding, and were hyperfocused on spazzing because you thought this somehow invalidated the other hashes, even after I'd said then (like I have now) that the other hashes are still legitimate. I genuinely hope you learn how to accept being wrong because I feel bad for everyone in your life who must have to deal with you otherwise.
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>>8118597
>>8118603
>>8118606
i'm out of the loop and don't know what specifically gpo or "gap ho" mean aside from gpo apparently being one of the hashed tags but i just threw each into an existing image with 1.35 weight on autismmixDPO and "gap ho" had almost no effect while "gpo" turned it into a strong western cartoon style. whichever of you is happy that i did this, please fill me in, and to the other guy, fuck you for being wrong!
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>>8118616
GIGO still applies to AI and will always apply
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>>8118644
NTA but for artists it's almost impossible to make a single futa without making her to have a ridiculously huge penis, sometimes it even seems it's just to see penises, I mean, futa pics often comes out in the form of 1futa, solo, masturbation and also hyper penis, sounds like the gayest thing ever
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>>8118638
Anon... are you prompting on cascade and shitting us?!?
Eyes of the fox girl are melting, hands are melting, 6 identical toes with no big toe, completely broken anatomy of the girl behind. This is what I would expect out of 3.6B cascade prototype...
Is cascade dalle level??
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>>8118653
Anon, dalle3 isn't as good as you think, especially with natural style (unless you have good prompts and tons of tries).
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>>8118651
That doesn't change what I said, idiot.
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i can finally gen wide angle fully clothed 1girl, standings with accurate, on model details in front of an accurate background... ai has peaked...
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>>8118611
>is that actually the low TE training lr that did it?
I baked with a higher general LR this time and yeah it's better
Still grey but not colored
Huh
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>>8118339
>the model looks good bro trust me
>posts dogshit
myep, convincing!
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>>8118645
Because cathag groid shotapedo you're genning is not anime artstyle
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>>8118644
see: >>8118639
in the same vein of your retardation, I can tell you straight guys aren't sexually attracted to dick and balls. time to face the music on your faggy futa fetish
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>>8118279
I'd love to test this on my prodigy setup too if you're willing.
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>>8118652
futa with small dick are just trap with boobs
solo futa and futa on futa are gay but i dont see how futa on girl is
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>>8118649
what the hell are you talking about? i compared gpo with gap ho because of a discord screenshot somebody posted here claiming it was prompt bleed from that
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Do anons experiment with different checkpoints or do you guys stick to the more popular ones and just switch things up with style LORAs?
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>>8118652
To me that's like saying that Arnold Schwarzenegger with a pussy drawn on would be the straightest thing ever
It's not really a 1:1 thing to me, again as a fag
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>>8118663
Any porn that has oddities that draw the attention away from the girl is gay
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>>8118650
You need to use it on base pony. No shit the results don't replicate on a mix
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i think it's normal for the gays to not like futas because i also don't like futas for the opposite reason they do
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>>8118665
The latter but only because I'm in a third world country (the USA) and I have a datacap every month
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>>8118661
If you think I care about the label im getting depending of what make my dick hard that day then you are retarded
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>>8118665
I tried a couple of times and base Autism mogs
Fortunately we're out of the shitmix woodworks and we don't need them
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>>8118513
ponyfags have become territorial, nipping at the heels of whoever dares try and make a new model
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>>8118670
Sorry to hear that anon. What country? Do they not have unlimited data options?
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>>8118663
>>8118667
Hmmm I wonder why futa often goes hand by hand with stomach bulge + cum inflation, but your usual hentai doesn't has this...
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>>8118671
stay in denial it doesn't make futa any less gay
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>style is better
>but backgrounds are again fucked
Not a good trade sadly
Not sure what else, maybe a different scheduler or even higher TE LR would fix that
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>>8118675
The US. Depends what state you live in but I only have a single option for my ISP (Comcast) where I live and yeah they have an unlimited data option but I'm not about to pay another 50 bucks a month for it
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>>8118643
Yeah that might be it.
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>>8118674
I don't even use pony anymore and I think Arti is shit. I kind of think Arti might just be shit and it's not just tribalism.
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>>8118684
lolll
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>>8118684
dall-e can do text???
SOVL
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>>8118665
I make crappy loras and then am forced to use Ebara or Reweik which mellows them out a bit.
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>>8118684
please go back to /aicg/
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dalle sometimes likes to troll (the censorship was done by itself)
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>>8118684
uhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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>>8118687
extremely based
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>>8115919
Those feets are familiar
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*gens your desune in natural style* nothing personnel kid
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>>8118687
brother please leak the method
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>>8118696
face sitting
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>>8118680
Damn, I thought us leafs had it bad.
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>>8118684
It's getting better but I'm surprised to see it's really not any improvement over say animagine in terms of quality. though I'm guessing dalle doesn't really prioritize anime in the dataset

someone leak midjourney niji so we can teach it nsfw
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>>8118684
what prompt did you give it? im assuming this is API
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>>8118638
https://files.catbox.moe/hp6c2a.png
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>>8118702
azure dalle uncensored endpoint, you can't do it on normal openai api. the prompt is still filtered (but JBs work if you do some stuff), but the resulting image isn't checked against NSFW.
>sketchy painterly anime style, a girl with long brown hair wearing an open green victorian era dress, she has heterochromia with one red eye and one green eye, she has a lace hairband, she has fluffy fox ears and two fluffy fox tails, she has a small smile, not naked, not nude. Normal-sized pecs.
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>>8118688
Bro have you never tinkered with it? It was one of its main features when it released
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>>8118609
It's the main reason why I believe this Resonance v1 (or R1 as they say) won't be able to kill pony, it could only be able to be at it's level, at most. Even jordach said that danbooru's part of the dataset was making this bake to struggle a lot, and obviously admitted that this database is fucking garbage, that's why he told to send curated datasets to his DM's and even only a few people did. But if tree sets up a place where we can retag and even create new tags for new/untagged concepts, it could easily be 10 times better than pony, and also with the potential of the 1B version beating up pony. Cascade's TE is 1B, bigger than the SDXL's ones.
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>>8118701
dalle picture quality never was never great, its the prompt comprehension that sets it apart from everything else
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>>8118707
>jordach said that danbooru's part of the dataset was making this bake to struggle
when did he say that?
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>>8118707
anon not to be grim but people here can't even bake a newer op lol
and speaking from ai general experience, people really hate collaborative works, i know of one initiative that had a response in three years
it'll be some lone autist spending a year on it that saves us in the end
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>>8118709
It's clearly failing at the "not naked' part
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>>8118703
>>8118638
Last one.
https://files.catbox.moe/8u88w3.png
Couldn't resist.
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>>8118710
Seems like sparse tags on the gelbooru's side are too sparsed (Aka. Poorly tagged Aka. Shit).
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One day someone will select a thousand tags and make a tool to merge all tag associations from all the different sites
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Dear local anon sirs. I had this idea, is it viable or not? Basically, for anime models, instead of doing a single prompt, we do two:
The first one is pure Danbooru tags and the tokenizer is specifically one that just maps danbooru tags (like Anifusion did it - https://medium.com/@enryu9000/anifusion-diffusion-models-for-anime-pictures-138cf1af2cbe).
The second one is a natural language detailed description that specifies positions, relations, etc, to give actual geometry and stuff.
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>>8118668
here is an xy on base pony. if you look really closely it does appear that gpo causes some changes that arent quite visible in the "gap ho" version, but i can understand how not everyone would spot them
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>>8118713
actually pretty good considering the tail gets in the way.
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>>8118691
>pierced rings into her titties to hang the sign
brutal
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>>8118721
kek
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>>8118701
>someone leak midjourney niji so we can teach it nsfw
It probably can NSFW if there is no filter.
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>>8118707
jordach needs to be the one that sits down and does this shit, that other people didnt do it is not an excuse
do you really think people will go and manually tag 50k, 100k, 500k images with better tags than booru? maybe they will, but this stuff took the boorus years
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>>8118726
hire some furfags that keep e621 updated
lol
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uh
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>>8118599
wait what? Care to elaborate? Did you register a company and contact them or something? How can I do it as well?
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>>8118729
absolute sovl
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>>8118730
tldr: a retarded dev of a company that did this put his azure endpoint with the key to github so I stole it
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>>8118729
locakkeks, our response?
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Loclca keks GTFO
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>wanted to make sure it isn't some other factor
>retrained a couple of epochs on the same script i used for the lora that has good backgrounds
>same seed and everything
>it also has grey backgrounds now
kek i love machine learning
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Hmm, the more it cooks the better it looks, kek.
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>>8118738
welcome back early age 1.5 slop
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dalle pls you can do the subtitles, cmooooooon
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>>8118738
Cascade tier gen
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>>8118738
If you must post these, please do not accompany them with rhyming posts, it makes it even more horrifying.
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>>8118741
Huh? Is this DALL-E too? Why is it so clean?
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>>8118741
>saas c'mon i believe in you
lol, lmao
kekmfao
rolfmao even
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Euge is too powerful he must be brought down
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>>8118745
it's pony
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>>8118748
is it?
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>>8118720
It's not. There is no tool that can produce accurate natural language captions for nsfw. Worse, it will hallucinate a bunch of shit which then confuses the model.
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>>8118752
yeah obviously
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>>8118755
looks like dalle to me
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>>8118747
he is not mia he just gave up after seeing he needed to retag the 1.3m he used for arti again + add another 1.3m that needs to be retagged for the next version of arti

so in the end he returned to use use his gpus for what they were made for: gaming
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>>8118745
>>8118757
it's galena redux
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>>8118758
i was unironically looking forward to arti v2 desu
it's eugeover
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i love lolibabas
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>>8118758
>>8118760
Anons, Neta 2.0...
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>>8118761
>i love lolibabas
>pic not fucking related
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>>8118762
it's worse than base arti
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>>8118737
>last commit was after i was baking the other one
>only difference is i was on dev now
another variable to check kek
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>>8118764
but hestia is a lolibaba
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me when evangelion
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>>8118761
Is the show still shit? Last I checked his unrequited love for some hoe was giving him superpowers.
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>>8118766
now generate onee-shota
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>>8118776
uhh, what does that mean? older boy?
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>>8118768
>lolibaba
>just a short girl with boobs
>doesn't even has a slight appearance of looking like a loli about her body shape
kill yourself.
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>>8118774
unholy spawn of miqofag and goatanon
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>>8118777
it means this >>8118772
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>>8118780
lets see if it gives me nsfw
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>>8118772
a bit fried but good taste in subject
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>>8118782
try this pls

anime.Bright light blue neon lights.big-eyed Saber from Fate wearing wizard robe in green & indigo colors.Worried,gasping.resting on mattress.multiple dark hands holding her limbs shinning under robe,playfully pulling robe apart.piece evokes a visceral sense of tranquility.glowing floor.glowing ultra aura
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its trying, at least
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>>8118782
requesting the prompt if you get anything good
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>>8118772
i still don't get why people are into her
other than the feet in heels
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UH OH THE DATASET IS LEAKING~ NICE VN SCREENSHOT BRO
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>>8118787
it tried, lemme try vivid maybe
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>>8118791
>DDLC screenshots as dataset
PFFFFFFF HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAH
GOOD JOB SAAS HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH
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>>8118775
watched only first season, stopped when it become turbo harem shit
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>>8118787
its getting a bit closer, now lets try to make it make her nake
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>>8118796
this but unironically
we need them
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ah shit it rewrites her name
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>>8118792
>>8118795
based
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This is without the name, I'll try so that it doesn't remove the name.
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>>8118798
wow nice. I think my prompt was a bit fucked but it's really cool. You're a really lucky guy
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natural style is lower quality but it's more varied
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>>8118796
I mean you can literally get 1:1 monika sprite as it looks in the wiki, lemme bring the prompt, I tried it like half a year ago.
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>>8118552
the only reason why i have not already trained the best finetune is because i am too poor to do so. with a budget of a million dollars the only thing stopping me would be that i also don't know how
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>>8118796
prompt (directly with JB):
The main character - Monika from the visual novel Doki Doki Literature Club. She's an anime girl.

Monika has thigh length coral brown hair tied up in a high ponytail that is tied back with a large white bow, curled slightly at the ends. She has two prominent strands of hair beside her bangs that reach slightly past her chest. Her eyes are emerald green. She is of average height.

She wears the standard issue female school uniform consisting of a warm gray blazer fully buttoned and untucked, brown sweater vest, white shirt fully buttoned and tucked, red ribbon, dark blue pleated skirt, black thigh-high socks and white uwabaki slippers with pink tips.

In the image she's sitting in her room, looking at viewer and smiling.

result picrel

yes this is dalle3
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*clang clang clang*
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>>8118790
People are into every poke girl, she doesn't have to be special.
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>>8118312
This is like making fun of local for not figuring out what SMEA is or unfucking SDXL for better darks and colors like NAI did. If it was easy, everyone would have figured it out.
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>>8118808
>MUH SAAS GOOD AND PROPERLY BAKED
>THE ACTUAL SAAS:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>8118790
cause she's a hag. people love hags.
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>>8118812
you ok anon?
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>>8118811
I meant the actual company, Anone.
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>>8118814
he shifts from all uppercase schizo screech to "nai smeary bad" occasionaly
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bmaltais kohya gui main branch updated 17 hours ago for anyone who still uses this shit
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>>8118761
>hestia
>loli
?
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>>8118815
What? Yes I know. I'm saying it's hard. When someone figures some how technique or technology through trial and error, you're not stupid just because you haven't figured it out yet.
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>>8118817
the normal dallekeks don't have an uncensored endpoint anonie
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>apparently i was missing cuda in my system somehow
what how did any of this work so far
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>>8118816
nope, i'm not that schizo
that schizo is a fucking blind idiot
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>>8118820
the "baba" part is the keyword toddlerconbro
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>>8118822
>no full penetration gen
>uncensored
LMFAOOOOOOOOOO
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>>8118810
>>8118813
She's also a bitch
But I did realize most people who jerk off to these don't play the games
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>>8118826
hestia is a shortstack and you should kill yourself
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>>8118827
"uncensored" as in "not having default filters", anon. I can use both local and NAI as well, it's just fun to try different tools.
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hello who called blender?
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>>8118829
nah bro shes an oppai loli
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>>8118831
more like 2011 mmd
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>>8118834
you haven't seen even an OUNCE OF MY POWER YET!
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reforge fork guy here, pushed some commits that fixes euler smea dy negative and cfg++ samplers, i did a dumb error that now is fixed

ty for the guy reporting the issue
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>>8118834
fart lora?
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the fuck is happening
go the fuck back nigger
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>>8118832
i am not your bro and she doesn't even looks underage enough to be called a loli of any type, shes even closer to a hag than to a loli
again, you should kill yourself.
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>>8118836
What errors? Related to the CFG or were they properly broken?
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>>8118836
I pulled
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>>8118840
no bro, she's an oppai loli. they call her an oppai loli and a lolibaba in the anime. sorry, you lose.
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>arguing about a doa flavor of the meme girl in 2024
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>>8118842
why are furries like this?
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>>8118847
sloppabros...the dallefag is too powerful, how do we stop him?
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>>8118847
wow... holy shit... Oh my god
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>>8118849
is that nai? any artists hint?
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>>8118841
Properly broken because i let these samplers now to have custom values (eta, s_noise for CFG++, s_churn, s_tmin, s_tmax and s_tmax for Euler things) that you change on Settings -> Forge Sampler parameters, but added a .get for modules.shared that didn't exist so it was error-ing out when trying to inference with them.

Now it's fixed.

>>8118843
Based
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>>8118665
I only use base pony and have always used base pony.
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>>8118840
nta but she looks much younger in the show than she does in those gens, and fanart in general

still not loli though
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>>8118855
>hint
man, im not gonna gatekeep you on artists. it's "kittew". pretty good gens, but they are too clean and sterile for my tastes. some people dig the style tho
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>>8118857
Oh, I thought they were badly implemented before
So I assume no difference if I could use them?
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>>8118862
nice thanks
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>>8118857
Tag autocomplete seems broken on the dev branch
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>>8118628
This is the first time I've found this girl attractive. Post moar.
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dalle mogging local without even a finetune. sdkeks could never with their garbage censored base models. once again saas remains the bastion of actual uncensored generation.
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>>8118870
ywnbag
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>>8118870
dallkeks cant stop winning....
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>>8118575
Yeah I remember someone posted a graph a while back. It was mostly phone users on NAI IRRC.
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>>8118628
Kagami doesn't act retarded though. I didn't really finish watching Lucky Star but I always liked her the most
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>>8118866
I imagine because it's barely her anymore. Did almost manage to get the eyes right tho.
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>>8118863
Yeah no change, implementation is the same

>>8118865
Okay I though it was a cache issue on my end, wtf I didn't change anything related to it. Let me try if it's because some value on options ui.
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>went back to the exact easyscripts setup as before
>same seed same dataset same script same tags
>different outputs
ml will make me go insane
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>>8118873
Makes sense since most don't even have PCs.
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western artists on suicide watch
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found a pretty decent style for lucky star characters
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>>8118880
aaaiiiieeeeeeee why is dalle so strong?????
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>>8118882
based and dallepilled!
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Any good new Pony Checkpoint models lately? or should I stick with AutismMix?
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>>8118875
Still miles better than what luckypedoposter posts usually.
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worst raid ever!!!
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>>8118888
reweik does backgrounds
zonkey does 3dpd
also various mixes with 4th tail, I'm not sure what those were meant for
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Why is old anime always so ugly? Where there no good studios around back then? Guess I'll stick to post 2010 stuff for my lora training
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>>8118892
*Best
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>>8118895
ywnbab
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>>8118791
kek
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>>8118895
good morning zoom zoom
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>>8118895
>2003
Go back a bit further
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>>8118895
Anon you know you can't bait with that here because nobody here watches anime, right?
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>>8118826
loli is a bodytype, a one hestia doesn't have
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the succ
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>>8118878
>background eventually baked out with prodigy with this setup
okay i can retest in adam now i have some sanity
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>>8118904
Good stuff. Catbox, please?
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>>8118900
True, gets a lot more soulful pre 1990
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Hes not wrong though, much of it is just nostalgia. I rewatched Trigun recently and it looked much worse than I remembered it.
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>we will never get sovlfvl retro style hentai done by big studios back
why even bother
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>>8118922
>it's decent because it's pedophilia
>Look at me, I'm based because i have a developmental disorder
>My synapses are fried and i got my sexual and protector instincts mixed up
grim
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>>8118924
so true sister!
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>>8118657
why haven't you posted it?
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>>8118926
I agree! Post more hags please! Attractive girls are a big no-no here!
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>>8118858
sovl
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here's a hag, now, let's all settle down
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>>8118881
cool almost looks hand drawn
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>>8118865
Okay now it is fixed, I was passing (inf) to gradio and that killed a lot of UI things IoI
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>>8118934
>posts something against the rules
NOO YOU CAN'T POST SOMETHING AGAINST THE RULES
>posts something against the rules differently
NOO YOU CAN'T POST SOMETHING AGAINST THE RULES
really hard to understand i know, maybe one day
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Post more loli please :)
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>>8118888
still using midkemia
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>>8118941
I'll never understand their thought process.
>"/b/ sucks for loli!"
>why not post more there to improve the quality of the threads?
>"no i think ill just spam unrelated boards where it isnt allowed and then shitpost when i get banned"
>okay...
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>>8118945
and then the persecution complex starts
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>>8118701
>>8118709
But this is a base res gen and its problem is style control. When it can do a variety of 1:1 anime, video game, and manga styles I don't think the issue is quality. I wonder if the source of the problem is natural language captions. We have the ease of typing "by asanagi" and getting one style but dalle fags have to write whole books before AI understands what you want. How would you even describe top down bottom up?
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>>8118912
Monkey paw: some studio releases fotmshit anime in retro styles, zoomers obsess over it and turn retro style into complete cringe somehow
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>>8118943
thanks. we should be able to share and discuss shit desu, without people spazzing out, it's half of the fun in prompting shit. i never mind if someone posts "off-topic" shit as long as they don't spam it. one image really does not hurt anyone. if anything people stirring shit up over it causes arguments and that just starts up the shitposting chain. tl;dr : be more chill bros
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post hags please
I love to imagine that they are my mommy
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I love following the rules and posting the same disgusting ponyslop here every day.
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>>8118948
LOL
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>>8118945
it's 1 (one) image. don't you think you are overreacting?
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>>8118946
you called it >>8118949
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>>8118941
Groidspammer didn't break the rules, wish he'd come back and bring the on-topic content this thread deserves :(
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>>8118949
post stuff through catboxes so raiders/schizos won't have power over you
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>>8118951
hell yeah brother! respecting rules is for the cool kids! *high fives u*
>>8118950
have a hag
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I wanted to post an update, but actually let's wait a little.
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>>8118953
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>1girl, standing, huge breasts
you need more?
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>>8118967
no no please do share
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>>8118974
Yeah, a gen that doesn't look like shit please.
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>>8118974
throw a shota into the mix and you'll be golden
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>>8118945
I kind of get it. Rather dial down my /d/ stuff to post here than go on /d/ and have to look at a thread full of solo futa. I assume /b/ is even worse.
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If nobody snipes for shits and giggles I'll post the newer op unless there are objections
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>>8118981
do it
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big girl
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>>8118973
>given how chill he is
kek
ragebaiting all the time because he's butthurt and occasional meltdowns because of hate (you)s
he's indeed very chill
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>>8118980
Hang on anon, you forgot to use the word melty/smeary/blurry in your post.
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>>8118945
Well, /b/ is impossible to improve by design. When I want to post loli, I go there because I really don't care about the vile shit people post here, but if you don't have high tolerance to internet trash you really, really wouldn't want to go there.
There's also a confusion what loli means. The term is quite ambiguous nowadays. Some mean literal kids, some mean hebe/ephebo staple anime characters. When you get sent to /b/ for posting Misaka Mikoto it can be quite rage inducing.
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>>8118945
>spam
do you know the meaning of that word?
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>>8118967
At least give me a hint so I know what to look forward to. I'm about to go play some gacha /v/idya anyway.
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>>8118992
>gacha
surely it's not mihoyoslop, right anon?
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>>8118993
No it's kuroslop. Objectively better.
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>>8118986
All I've seen are anons asking for his catboxes. Only nogens are usually angry about his gens, because they're genuinely high quality.
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>>8118995
>Wuthering Waves
never return to this general
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>>8118989
i will test that theory
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>>8118995
i'm sorry anon but they're both dogshit
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>>8118983
No way this is only "kittew" r-right?
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>>8119003
have i intrigued you, anon? let me check really quick for you
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>>8119002
Too bad faggots. I'm here to stay.
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>>8118940
Thanks, anon
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>>8118998
good one
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>>8119004
Loli is actually a body type, it's not about age. If it was, the billion year old vampire excuse would work. And most anime characters are underage anyway.
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>>8119001
When the misaka posters left the thread turned to shit
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>>8119003
just checked. i have not used kittew for that prompt. should i tell you the artist? :^)
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>>8118998
cathag anon is actually BobsBlazed on civit
he also just released a merge of SD3 and Pony
https://civitai.com/models/595917/nepotism-unleashed-sd3sdxlpony?modelVersionId=665705
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>>8118981
Just bake it now, get me out of here.
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>>8118981
Update OP please
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>>8119019
it was hard to find a good /h/ image here
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>>8118992
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>>8119018
This is why I only post my girl on occasion. Both cat anons ended up becoming true namefags.
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>>8119018
Wow, so he is the kind of person that commits to wrangle with something bigger than loras to make local better. Big props to him.
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>>8119025
>nolive
fits
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>>8119026
that's not cathag anon's civit profile, it's just anon schizo posting again
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Déjà vu!
I've just been in this place before
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>>8119031
but anon, surely this time it's really true!
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>>8119030
yes it is lol
https://civitai.com/images/20021857
who else would gen in this style?
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>>8119041
>who else would gen in the default pony style
...?
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my issue with lolifags is that they never have taste
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>>8119041
based blind retard
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>>8119006
any hint bro?
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>>8119007
Should have posted the /h/ one instead.
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>>8119046
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?tags=dave_rapoza
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>>8119043
>>8119045
you can deflect all you want BobsBlazed theres no shame in posting here
you also dont post any images with metadata which is very telling
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>>8119041
maybe this guy?
https://civitai.com/user/Fandingo
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>>8119050
based but seems there's more to that. arigatou anyway
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>rolled back easyscripts to main instead of dev
>zero grey backgrounds on the same epochs in adam bake
Rule 1: Never update
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~30 Anons in this thread
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>>8119069
I'm glad we're alive again, despite all this
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>>8119064
wait up, ill catbox it for you so you can get the prompt.
https://files.catbox.moe/nq03wg.png
just upload, use same seed, settings and prompt. then adapt it however you want
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>>8119073
>photorealistic, realistic
damn it has such an impact. thanks bro
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>>8119077
yes, double reinforcement. works very well. sometimes adding stuff like "real life" works good too depending on the artist. photorealistic shit takes quite a bit to work properly on nai, but you can get some interesting results.
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Bros... why is the police at my door?
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>>8119083
thats what i mean. there are thread regulars that are anonymous and mind their own business, and then you got "regulars" (namefags, avatarfags, or vocal anons that like to make themselves known) which are the bad kind.
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>>8119085
you posted loli on 4chan bro. enjoy prison bro
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>i'm someone's "holy shit i recognize that typing, i hate this anon so much"
i'm sorry
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>>8119089
just from this post you seem like an insufferable cunt, so it might check out
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There are only 2 anons itt.
One that capitalizes.
and one that doesn't
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>Have been here for months, occasionally trolling, but still didn't manage to get a nickname
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>height of thread notoriety in may 2022
>so washed up
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anatomically correct Bocchi
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>>8119089
worst thing is you can't even post wives with such requirements, schizos would immediately tie you to someone they don't like
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>tfw last anon in the thread
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>>8119047
catbox?
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>>8119096
And you want one? I've been keeping my identifiable waifuposting sparse and separate from other posts on purpose.
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Ganbatte chat nogen thread, I know we can reach 2000 post this time!!!!
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>>8119093
those are both me
Sorry.
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>>8119107
Who cares what retards think? Just post whatever you like. As long as it doesn't break the rules there's no problem.
>>8119109
Metadata is in the file. Or use the catbox extension.
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me in the middle
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>>8119093
also both me
Not really sorry, though.
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>>8119093
Or were they me?
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>>8119120
So is the other guy eating her out or some shit?
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>>8119123
No, it's just amorphous flesh mass.
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damn, thats a fat pussy
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>>8119123
>he doesnt't fuck his waifu on his flesh couch
/k/ would like a word
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>>8119125
that's a ballsack
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>>8119107
In theory, yes. But there's more leeway here, same as in drawthreads. You can't blame people for only genning their wife, nor for being the only one to do so. Just don't be obnoxious with it, and don't use her as an avatar for posting opinions or arguing with someone.
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>>8119129
fuck, i cant unsee it now
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>posting NAI .jpgs to hide his prompt
When will this thread die already?
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If you fucked a clown girl, would it make you pee funny?
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>>8119134
>clussy
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>>8119137
why is aqua in distress?
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What happened that this thread has reached a new low today?
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for me, it's Wiz
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>>8119141
>new low
hello newfriend
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>>8119141
>new low
>people actually posting hentai
go chat in your little cord buddy
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i have faith in neggles
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>>8119139
It can make a man act unwise
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>>8118774
>>8118813
>>8118928
>>8119048
catbox?
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>people actually start posting images after ~1700 posts
>"new low"
kek
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BREAD
>>8119146
>>8119146
>>8119146
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>tfw no big titty goth gf...
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>>8119151
>today means last 15 minutes
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>>8119155
I don't live in the past, I live in the now.
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>>8119140
When is she not.
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>>8119151
>>8119145
>autists taking every word literally
He probably meant new low as in the amount of shitposts. Not how many images/posts are posted.
Dall-e spammer wasn't here like a month ago, nor was scat/fart art
Nor was the message to image ratio that high, maybe 1000 posts to 300 images, not 1700 posts.
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>>8119161
He would be wrong then or were you not here for the thread with 2200+ shitposts before it fell off page 10
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>>8119161
>Nor was the message to image ratio that high, maybe 1000 posts to 300 images, not 1700 posts.
we had only 1500+ reply threads for a month at least, likely longer
recently reached 2k+ reply record
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>>8119167
2k+ reply thread was very chill
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One more partial epoch bros, and Cascade will finally beat pony
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>>8118659
>concave-skulled retard too scared to post a gen
okay.
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>>8119192
according to jordach's most recent posts it's already better than pony
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What values do you guys use for XL Loras?
>Network Rank
>Network Alpha
>Optimizer
>Learning Rate Scheduler
>Learning Rate
Curious to try other settings but I've seen very contrasting info
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>>8119212
1:1 dim/alpha, adamw, cosine with 1 restart every 800 steps, 0.000175 or 0.00003 TE and 0.0003 UNET, 1600 steps
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>>8119152
Was this mage when the thread reachet the 300 pics mark or is an early bake?
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>>8119355
It was already on img limit when the next thread was baked.
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>>8119362
Is kind of a thing just how many pics get DED'd after the thread "ends" then.
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>>8119393
Pretty cool. Background is kinda weird, but the submerged part looks very nice!
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>>8117585
box?
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>>8119396
>>8119407
>>8119410
amazing job as always, anon
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>hundreds of new loras and checkpoints added every single day
>average LORA: 100mb+
>average checkpoint: 6GB+
How the fuck does CivitAI afford the storage? So many are trash duplicate loras of the same character or retards uploading test loras.
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>>8119139
What did you prompt for the man pubes?
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>>8119746
I'm just reposting/filling the gap.



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