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Previous Thread: >>8131754

>LOCAL WEBUI SETUP
https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/wiki
Optimizations *NEW*
https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/pull/15821
https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/pull/15837
https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/pull/15824

>LOCAL FORGEUI
Maintained branch:
https://github.com/lllyasviel/stable-diffusion-webui-forge/tree/dev2

>LOCAL COMFYUI
https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUI
https://comfyanonymous.github.io/ComfyUI_examples/
https://openart.ai/workflows/templates

>LOCAL MODELS
https://civitai.com/models/257749/
https://civitai.com/models/288584/
https://gitgud.io/gayshit/makesomefuckingporn (use Wayback Machine) *OLD*

>PAID
NovelAI: https://rentry.org/hdg-nai-v3
NAI API/prompting in A1111: https://github.com/Metachs/sdwebui-nai-api

>RESOURCES
Features: https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/wiki/Features
Training: https://rentry.org/59xed3 | https://github.com/derrian-distro/LoRA_Easy_Training_Scripts | https://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainer
Tags: https://danbooru.donmai.us/wiki_pages/tag_groups | https://danbooru.donmai.us/related_tag
ControlNet: https://rentry.org/dummycontrolnet
IOPaint (LamaCleaner): https://huggingface.co/spaces/Sanster/iopaint-lama | https://www.iopaint.com/install
Booru: https://aibooru.online
4chanX Catbox/NAI prompt userscript: https://rentry.org/hdgcb
Pony-related: https://rentry.org/ponyxl_loras_n_stuff | https://rentry.org/ponyxl_lora_previews | https://lite.framacalc.org/4ttgzvd0rx-a6jf
EF+HLL: https://rentry.org/5exa3 *OLD*
Animation: https://rentry.org/AnimAnon *OLD*

OP Template/Logo: https://rentry.org/hdgtemplate/raw | https://files.catbox.moe/xk99gy.png (embed) | https://files.catbox.moe/35bdt5.gif (embed)

>Related
>>>/aco/sdg
>>>/g/sdg
>>>/g/ldg
>>>/d/ddg
>>>/e/edg
>>>/u/udg
>>>/vt/vtai
>>>/vg/aids
>>>/b/degen
>>>/trash/sdg
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>>8134222
A blacked OP would still be preferable to shirou...
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>>8134227
kek
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Reposting for visibility.
NAI extension anon, I think one of the latest commits broke the extension a bit. I just updated it and now, if I disable NAI and gen a local image, then turn NAI back on, it'll continue generating local images until I restart, despite the NAI checkbox being set to "true". After a bit of experimenting, I'm fairly certain this exact commit broke it: https://github.com/Metachs/sdwebui-nai-api/commit/763940de0dc78b391081360e46b6c9487224a760
If I downgrade to https://github.com/Metachs/sdwebui-nai-api/commit/3ef39ab39cad33dd78d78fa1a1c40db1081ab765 or earlier, it works as expected: I can swap from NAI to local and back without getting stuck on either.
For reference, I'm on reForge, but it was like this on forge's last non-meme commit before I moved too.
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>>8134229
rope
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Plap the goat
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Got some weird shit in that Alabasta water...
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The colorize tool was updated, so it no longer colorizes when defry is set to 5. It's just for prompting now.
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>>8134222
>nai op
based
>>8134235
>>8134237
>sepia pony shit
fuck off already
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>>8134220
57 more..
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>>8134239
Good morning naimelt schizo.
Sorry, but no one's gonna use your shitty split threads. Have fun seething and falseflagging ;)
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>>8134241
you cant fix local retarded faggot
even this model is full of piss filter
>>8134242
meds and rope
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>>8134239
>fuck off already
You first, non poster. You're ruining everyone's fun by being a colossal faggot.
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>>8134243
>even this model is full of piss filter
That's not true. It's just kaedeko (kaedelic) and it's also not pony-based.
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>>8134244
better text post than post gens from a model with fucked colors you didnt even try to fix them
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>>8134246
It's the schizo trying to justify the split threads, ignore and meltie's gonna stop at some point.
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>>8134250
>if you say pony has fucked colors and has a strong bias towards sepia youre a schizo
youre just like the nai meltie fag
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>>8134247
ooc
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>>8134247
if youve ever seen anyone say nai has jpg artifacts then you havent seen this local embarrassment
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6vQlvefGxk
Hope this doesn't affect their gpu business too badly
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>>8134249
>you didnt even try to fix them
Sorry 'bout that pardner, lemme fix it for ya.
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>>8134261
you can deflect all you want but your model will always be fucked pathetic retard
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uh oh meltie
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>>8134262
I don't really give a shit about what model I use. As long as it can reasonably render the bitches I specify getting fucked, I don't care if things are a little "sepia".
I've got no loyalty. I'll change at the drop of a (cowboy) hat if someone can offer me up something better for my exact purposes. It takes a special kind of autism to worry that fucking much about what people are using.
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>>8134266
anon this wasnt in the script.. you need to shitfling so people go to the segregated threads!
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>>8134264
keep your yellow garbage to yourself then. theres an obvious better option without completely fucked colors so it sounds like you do have loyalty
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>>8131015
>>8131589
Only now did I see your delivery. Thank you for that and sorry for such a late reply.

>walmart inori
>why is she and IA tagged so badly tho
>what kind of curse is this
Pink haired girls can't catch a break.
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>>8134269
I'm here to jerk off, and post the shit I'm jerking off to, anon. Retarded software wars about what someone else uses to do it doesn't interest me.
My dick is my guide.

>>8134271
Learn to post to the right person retard.
>theres an obvious better option
I'm too busy crankin the shaft to test every model available that does the exact shit I require. And I require A LOT more than just 1girl standing or basic bitch anime girls. Shit that I can't post here on /h/. Show me a model, and I'll tell you why it doesn't do what I want it to do.
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>>8134271
Sis, you do understand you ain't fooling anyone?
Can't just you stop trying after all this time and let people have fun? Is fighting saas in a porn general really such an important cause?
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>>8134271
Are you talking about the saas garbage with no access to community tools or the underbaked danbooru only models?
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>>8134266
>It takes a special kind of autism to worry that fucking much about what people are using.
It takes even more autism to care about who bakes the model. You can use this argument to discuss model's shortcomings, sure, but ditching model completely because of furry/troon/%insert_your_butthurt_trigger% and attempt to derail thread into shitposting because of other models discussion doesn't sound faitful.
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>>8134274
i responded to the right retard,sweaty,you. also sounds like youre getting a bit upset, is your vision turning from yellow to red? lol
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when training a character thats already on pony, does it make sense for me to caption the dataset with the pony tag for them? The innate pony version misses a few details that aren't promptable
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>>8134275
>understand you ain't fooling anyone?
there's plenty of retards lacking pattern recognition here
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>>8134280
Sure, use fewer steps and focus your dataset on those incorrect features. Or if you want a regular workflow use a different tag.
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>>8134280
I'd avoid it. The pony tags are often noisy and ill trained. Try how it affects styles and different clothes and decide for yourself
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>>8134278
Where did I even mention that?
I don't give a fuck who makes the model. All I care about is if the model does what I want it to do. If there's a model that does what I want better, then I switch. I don't give a shit about discord faggotry, who's a troon, who fucks dogs/children, who they voted for, or anything else other than if the checkpoint does what I ask of it. If NAI does it better, or Pony, or even some 1.5 model, I don't care. I'll fuckin use that.
I never said I was faithful. I'm a fickle motherfucker.

>>8134279
>sounds like youre getting a bit upset
I'm a little bit upset at your lack of reading comprehension and unwillingness to understand what I'm getting at, but I think that's a common trait with autism, so I'll give you a pass.
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Aah, another fun thread with the bros
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>>8134285
>Where did I even mention that?
Just my two cents after witnessing meltdown as neggles posted shit in previous thread. Not particularly targeting (You).
>I'm a little bit upset
He just wanna troll you, I think it was obvious.
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>>8134280
No, you don't ever tag the character when training a character lora.
Tag what you see, leave out innate traits like hair color, tag what you want to change like hair style, but provide examples of images with alternates of the thing that's changing. So if you tag "ponytail", but all the images have ponytails, you'll have a hard time changing it.
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>>8134285
not much to comprehend, dumbo. youre trying to justify using a model with fucked colors and im calling you a retard
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Has there been any finetuners talking about adopting flux as their base model? I need some hopeium
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>>8134294
You seem fine flicking your little white clitty to NAI BBC not sure why you'd need anything more?
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>>8134285
>I'm a little bit upset at your lack of reading comprehension and unwillingness to understand what I'm getting at, but I think that's a common trait with autism, so I'll give you a pass.
It's an obvious attempt to make people here mad and redirect them to freshly made separate generals. This has happened several times already.
He'll go into a turbo meltdown mode after his troll threads are deleted and will shut the fuck up again for a while.
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>>8134289
bad advice

Including a character tag for activation means you can use the lora with multiple characters in the prompt, won't affect them both even if they do share a feature.

Leaving out innate traits makes it harder for the model to understand them, even if it does save you some tokens when actually using the lora.

You don't need alternate images as long as the thing is close to the model's understanding of its tag. Ponytail is fine, as long as it's not actually high ponytail or short ponytail and you tagged it wrong.
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How does a porn general even generate so many schizos? I always enter these threads after making some images I like and having a good cum so I'm in a decent and laid back mood. Then I just see people relentlessly screeching for hours on end.

Why? I genuinely don't understand it.
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>>8134295
>Bbc
>Orc
Anti-nai shitposter out in full force again?
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>>8134294
No, and it's unlikely. There is a small amout of hopium for a finetune of the distilled versions (schnell/dev) but that'll be extremely difficult.
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>>8134299
He always has a meltie when NAI releases anything new.
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>>8134288
>Just my two cents after witnessing meltdown as neggles posted shit in previous thread. Not particularly targeting (You).
Yeah, I've got no clue who the hell that is, nor do I really care to learn about any of the people this thread focuses on, I don't pay attention to or read those posts. I'm just here to fuck around, post shit, train some stuff, ask for technical help, offer up advice if I know it, and do that sort of thing. I don't care too much about development. Like it's neat and all to hear about new shit that may be potentially coming out, but it's not like I can jack the beanstalk to it right this moment.

>>8134296
Ah, I'll leave it there then.
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>>8134298
Genuinely one person, he replies to himself, and even uses the same phrases ever, single time. No real point in replying, he just took up this one thing as his hobby (being a retard) so he basically has this tab open and replies.
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>>8134299
If you'd been paying attention we got a new NAI BBC spammer he sometimes does monsters but has done a bunch of BBC trash, he usually complains about local too.
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>>8134304
He's not new, I think I remember same posts from a while ago, but he is indeed kinda annoying with this whine.
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>>8134297
"a character tag" is not the same as "the character tag".
Absolutely include a character tag, but don't use the one that already exists on the booru or in the model.

Speaking from experience, providing alternates does help with flexibility but also understanding. Ponytail as an example was pretty broad, but I guess a better thing would be outfits innate to a character. Something like that WILL get burned in even if you tag it. Not so much burned in that it's impossible to change, but burned in to where most outfits will have traits from that singular outfit. Alt images help a good bit with that.

As for leaving out innate traits, I've never had averse experiences with leaving them out. As long as all your images are consistient, leaving out "blonde hair, blue eyes" won't suddenly make the character have black hair and green eyes every few gens. Kooky hairstyles and other exotic traits I'll tag, but not basic innate traits.
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>>8134303
explains a lot desu
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>>8134235
gladly
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>>8134289
>No, you don't ever tag the character when training a character lora.
Can you explain why you think this?
>So if you tag "ponytail", but all the images have ponytails, you'll have a hard time changing it.
This too. Can confirm this is false for example since picrel has only ponytails in the dataset.
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>>8134297
>Leaving out innate traits makes it harder for the model to understand them
This one is a little bit more complex. Sometimes it helps to tag a physical feature like white pupils to help AI understand, but other times AI's knowledge of the feature interferes with its ability to reproduce what was tagged in the dataset.
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I'm installing reforge because my forge is broken and I'm too much of a PCtard to figure out how to fix it.
How do I get to recognize where my models/loras are? I don't want to have to move a bunch of shit around
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Late to the party but reforge anon we love you and flux fucking sucks ass anyway who even cares if it has support
Retard devs controlnet update probably won't even work with pony anyway so who cares about it
Keep doing your thing
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>>8134314
>Can you explain why you think this?
As the other anon explained, you can get bleed and other weird shit from the character tag that exists in the model.
You're taking your (hopefully) carefully selected and curated dataset and then juicing it with a whole bunch of shit you had no control over. I guess if quantity is more important than quality, then use the included tag, but I tend to put a good amount of work into a dataset to make sure it's exactly how I want. So any issues or fuckups with it is on me, and I can troubleshoot it better.

>Can confirm this is false
And I can confirm it's true, since I've had the exact issue pop up. It's really just one of those things that you either get lucky or unlucky with.
I can't really say if either of us are right in this instance. I just know that in my case, adding alternates helps a lot more than it can hurt. Nothing wrong with a more robust dataset.

>>8134331
I just use symlinks (they're like shortcuts but in a way that programs can use, and not just the user). I've got a shell extension that lets me pick a file/folder I want to use as a symlink, and it lets me drop it anywhere I want. Otherwise you have to use the command prompt to do that shit, if I remember right.
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>>8134331
Same way you get forge to, add it to webui user file (google/Reddit if to aren't familiar, unironically, lots of step by steps on there)
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>>8134247
box?
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>>8134333
>>8134334
alright then thanks
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>>8134268
https://files.catbox.moe/u5172b.png
i dont think i changed it much from the initial prompt
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I'm trying to get this exact style. Does anybody know who made this image, or what loras where used? Thanks
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>>8134341
its novel ai, prompt is in the metadata
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>>8134316
Pretty much this. For example "tentacle hair" refers to hair that is tentacles, Splatoon style and doesn't work well for hair that turns into tentacles halfway down the length. So using another tag makes it easier to train, but then it's also no longer understood as tentacles, like for grabbing stuff or penetration.

If you care about the girl you'll end up having to experiment anyway.
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>>8134341
>>8134342
As this anon said, it NAI but you can probably get really close using some 2d anime lora or simply using screenshot in prompt.
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>>8134342
info tab tells me "parameters None", where'd you find the metadata?
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>>8134341
>Wary look with narrowed eyes
>huge penis
I guess NAI is overrated after all
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>>8134333
Yeah I think you're right. In some of the earlier iterations of my nanako lora I was struggling to change the ponytail but my settings have changed since then so idk if that's the reason. Ideally a more robust dataset is better but often times you can't get everything you want. It would be nice to be able to put characters in multiple different outfits but I don't know how to do that without extensive inpainting.
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Any bakers willing to write a guide on this new loooong and slow baking?
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>>8134345
Works on my machine
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>>8134346
they didn't even 1boy.......
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Changli anon got eyes well, can't get the one hand red it wants none or both but it's better after the tagging. I forgot again somehow the WD tagger in extensions doesn't order shit at all, so have to go through again with the danbooru tagger standalone app, re-align priority on tags then add in missing and clean some. It's def better for sure.

>>8134331
Yeah I was using syslink but with reForge at this piont I'm fully abandoning forged since it's just better even now if reforge anon poofs so I just moved the shit over.
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haven't been here for a couple months, about when autism started seeing more use than pony. would it be unwise to continue with my now relatively "old" setup, or has nothing much changed (substantially) since then?
pony and autism remain listed in the OP, but have best practices, and other such tings, changed?
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>>8134355
Based.
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>>8134347
>It would be nice to be able to put characters in multiple different outfits but I don't know how to do that without extensive inpainting.
Yeah, I've had to do that a few times, kinda. Sometimes it helps to gen an inbetween model that gets close, but isn't the final model, just so you can try and squeeze in some extra images in that's outside your dataset. Using outfit loras and stuff like that can help with inflexibility with that between model. At least enough to where you can get some of that flexibility back with the final. I do tend to try and gen those images with multiple styles just so that doesn't get baked in.

>>8134343
Yeah this is a weird bleeding issue that I've had before too. It often crops up with things like clothes. Like if you tagged a character with a white shirt that's kind of out of the ordinary, any time you have "shirt" in your prompt it can get eaten, and turn up with that shirt's design.
As you've said, it takes a lot of fucking around and experimenting to figure out what to do in those cases. Personally, as mentioned, I just try to have a more varied dataset if I can. Usually solves most of those kinds of issues.
Weird shit like tentacle hair being aliased with tentacles though, it's kind of up in the air. In those cases I just do a quick train at a low epoch with and without the tag to see if there's any issues with leaving the tag out. It's a case-by-case thing. Which is why giving a specific step-by-step guide on how to train things is really hard. It's easy to generalize until you get to that specific thing that fucks everything up.
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>>8134357
would i miss a lot of of cool thread-only lora by sorting the past couple of months of civit by downloads and trudging through them?
iirc people used to post megas and shit in here with lora that they never made available elsewhere.
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Is there way to regulate hips width by prompting on Pony?
Trying to make "basic" anime girl with medium breasts, not cunny, but all the time I get over the top hourglass figure with way to wide hips
Tried to put wide hips in negs and petite/skinny in positive with different weights, but nothing seems to work (at least with lora I'm trying to use, also tried age slider from civit, but similarly to other methods it mainly affects head ratio, not figure
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>>8134362
there hasnt been thread loras posted in about 2-3 months so the rentrys in the OP are fairly up to date
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>>8134354
>Changli anon got eyes well
What did you do to get eyes like this? Catbox?
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>>8134362
I pick up most megas posted here, search the archive when in doubt. Would it help to mass scrape for links and post that as an uncurated resource?
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>>8134250
ikr
>>8134254
Yeah, it also can't do proper blacks at this point (and seemingly never will).
>>8134335
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>>8134366
>all the time I get over the top hourglass figure with way to wide hips
Its pony's feature. Drop score tags and use style loras to alter girl's proportions.
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>>8134366
Once again this is an autism thing that people blame on pony. Autism is the one that changes anatomy heavily, for better or for worse, and creates that hourglass figure some people don't like. Have you tried neg pip?
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>>8134348
?
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>>8134357
This. All those mixes are genuinely amazing and have a very, very strong style influence.
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Any good Hisasi like?
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>>8134369
It's the character itself, can try (ringed eyes) though.

https://files.catbox.moe/8nlvhq.png
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>>8134376
But muh matte NAI style
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>>8134372
I'm only using score 9
>>8134373
I don't use autism anymore, only vanilla Pony currently
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>>8134374
There have been some discussion about how all loras are essentially undertrained and training much longer with lower lr yields superior results.
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>>8134382
Well, you just described all there is to is. Just bake longer with lower lr.
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>>8134378
Yeah I'm trying to do this character too but ringed eyes don't come out that neat. What pics do you have in your dataset?
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>>8134379
Autismmix with a good style lora (you can even train it yourself) is already vastly superior to any human-made art, who the fuck needs NAI?
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>>8134383
Is adamw still the best with that method?
Can I start with a high lr and then gradually drop it? like the furry approach to cascade.
Is this grokking stuff relevant here or something different?
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>>8134388
Nice. I should really try to make this xaxaxa lora work.
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>>8134387
The lr is very customizable, I had best results with cosine.
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>>8134389
I've already got a working xaxaxa lora.
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>>8134385
Dunno, I downloaded all the pics of her with img grabber from gelbooru, filtered for solo and curated it for variety. It ain't perfect I had to prompt it for it to show up and sometimes it just becomes spiral eyes, most of her fanart is cowboy shots or portraits anyway.
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>>8134382
How low and slow we talkin?
Because I feel like I've been doing that accidentally for a good long while. I'm so used to doing 3d renders overnight, that setting a lora to train for 8-10 hours overnight never seemed out of the ordinary for me, and my LR was always super fuckin low because I didn't know what really was a good one. So I'd just train a fuckload of epochs. Never fried one though.
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Cute goth girl with self harm scars
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>>8134392
No 3d screenshots from the game or the official models? I'm starting to feel like 3d is the reason why pony doesn't learn fine details perfectly, even if it's on model.
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>>8134396
Nah nothing 3d, I've seen anons use koikatsu stuff that works but I just get what's convenient then work through that.
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>>8134368
I posted one literally yesterday
It was trash but still
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>>8134364
>>8134368
alright, thanks.
>>8134370
likely would, since i don't know what hosts are being used anymore. about when i quit being here regularly people wanted to get off of mega because of takedowns and stuff. iirc pixeldrain(?) was an alternative. i doubt i'd be able to find all or even most of the links, but judging by another response i got it seems the rentry is well maintained (and lora output lowered) so the effort might be wholly unnecessary. i'd say don't trouble yourself.
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>>8134387
>Is this grokking stuff relevant here or something different?
It is relevant, anyone who had baked a "good" lora grokked it since if you just e.g. bake a style lora to get perfect results on the prompts similar to those used in training dataset, the lora won't work well (if at all) on other prompts.
Generally to avoid accidental undergrokking you should use validation loss and do not look AT ALL at train loss unless it's nan or some other shit.
>optimizer and lr scheduler
This really doesn't matter that much. I personally use lion and cosine with restarts.
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>>8134397
Idk man. I have really hires closeups of her face from the game but I still can't get AI to learn the eyes correctly.
https://files.catbox.moe/wplhy1.png
All the civit loras were 30pic rush jobs from earlier in the year when she had little fan art so I'm strongly suspecting it's because of the 3d in mine. Maybe I should tag only the 2d with ringed eyes idk.
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>>8134373
Checked negpip and for some reason extension doesn't seems to work correctly for me, at least with what I'm trying to do
Inserted (wide hips:-2) in positives, and it made hips actually wider, so tought that I'm retarder so swapped it to negs, and it also made hips wider kek
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>>8134356
there's a new more maintained branch of forge called reforge but that's basically it
>>8134368
>>8134399
it would not surprise me if most anons had started just posting their loras on civit. being able to see when some random schizo uses your lora to generate a futa on male rape gallery is something you just can't get on mega
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>>8134412
it might also be because pony is retarded overfried piece of shit
keep that in mind
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>>8134400
Wtf is grokking?
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>>8134401
I don't feel good about a lora honestly if it doesn't have like 150~ pics these days. I've done less and they've turned out well, too many tends to suck a lot too so 120-200 has been my sweet spot.
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>>8134421
Box? Moreso for the style/settings than the character.
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>>8134420
https://youtu.be/Nvb_4Jj5kBo
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>>8134416
I know anon, I'm usually genning cunnies so loras like as109 ro muk are forcing anatomy but with style, but everything for "normal" anime girls/JKs are Miqo level anatomy
I'm always dying inside when i see here retards claiming "well, Pony anatomy knowledge is perfect actually" kek, like yeah it can do penis into vagina
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>>8134310
Well plapped
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>>8134401
afaik close up shots of the face/eyes aren't going to help much or at all if you're doing full body compositions. they do help a fair amount if you're using adetailer/inpainting, though. caption them as something like portrait, close-up
i think that doing too much 3d will fuck shit up though unless you're using 3d specific training methods
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>>8134423
So training the Lora long past over fitting makes it better? How does "better generalisation" even translate to image gen? Also the paper is about transformers, does it even apply to sdxl?
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>3 threads
you annoying faggots
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>>8134433
>1 annoying shitposter
ftfy
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Any way to stop multidiffusion from doing this weird bullshit between her legs? Lowering the denoise helps but then I get less improvement. Hires fix never has this problem. Multidiffusion otherwise works well but whenever there's a small space or too much empty space in the background it loves to add weird shit there.
https://files.catbox.moe/pr472o.png
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>>8134432
See >>8134400
>does it even apply to sdxl?
CLIP is transformers-based, and U-net has some attention layers to connect it to CLIP but grokking in general isn't limited to transformers only
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>>8134437
You can add to/change the prompt in img2img. For example, add ground to the positive or city to the negative and see what happens. Lastly, you can manually edit the image so it's less likely to change it in the multidiffusion process.
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>>8134412
I tried a bunch of different things (combinations or skinny, curvy, wide hips, hips,huge hips, hyper hips, narrow waist, thick thighs) and couldn't get the hips to go smaller than prompting nothing related to hips. e621 has a narrow hips tag but its got 1/100th the images that wide hips does.
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>>8134366
What style? It's weird, skinny works really well for me. This is on autismmix with no lora or style:
>baseline milf - https://litter.catbox.moe/mr5747.png
>wide hips neg
>remove neg, add skinny
>raise skinny to 1.3
>add back wide hips neg
>raise both skinny and wide hips to 1.5
>add "mjm" - hashed zankuro (since he draws fatties)

Just as a general rune for Pony, positives work much better than negatives. I keep telling people to use white penis instead of negging dark-skinned male.
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>>8134440
Yeah, idk, I'd like some spoon-feeding and comparison images before I let my 3090 heat up my room for the next 20 hours
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>>8134442
nice ear-grabbing, could I see a catbox? I can never get consistent ear grabs like that,

unless its a controlnet or heavily inpainted
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>>8134441
The original picture is just her shadow and the road. I also had one where a normal stain glass gets turning into a shitty person by multidiffusion just cause.
https://files.catbox.moe/gorl9i.png
The problem is mitigated by setting the tile batch size to 1.
https://files.catbox.moe/2mmu72.png
https://files.catbox.moe/nl8tk0.png
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>>8134445
>next 20 hours
rookie numbers
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>>8134446
alas, ear grabbing is not in the prompt, pure gacha
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I can't get pony working, does it have custom clip models or are these correct?
laion/CLIP-ViT-bigG-14-laion2B-39B-b160k
openai/clip-vit-large-patch14
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>>8134452
unet, clip and vae are all in the same file
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morgana
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>>8134451
you have rolled the heavenly dice then
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>>8134442
I was also putting narrow waist in negs because in many cases is far to narrow, narrower than thighs basically, but this also do nothing
funny thing that breasts size affect hips, small breasts or flat chest have overall impact
>>8134443
yeah, skinny works actually, but not necessary way I want, it has to big impact on whole figure and makes it narrower and weird disproportions, petite also works but mostly make head bigger and whole body smaller
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im training my first artist lora, do I tag it the same as normal concept loras? Or do I just use a single tag for the artist? You don't want it to learn all the character stuff in the art do you?
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>>8134462
just run an auto tagger, don't include the artist's name
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>>8134378
Where did you get those loras?
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>>8134462
Tag everything. You may or may not need to use the artist's name as an activation tag.
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>>8134462
You want it to be able to identify the things it is seeing in the new style. Tag everything, the only question is whether you want to have an activation tag for the artist himself or if you prune that.
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>>8134430
>unless you're using 3d specific training methods
Any chance of doing that writeup for this? I still can't get this to work properly.
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>>8134463
>>8134465
>>8134466
thanks, got it no artist name
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>>8134467
i did start writing one but i keep running into the issue of not knowing how it actually works
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>>8134442
and btw, to avoid the bias I'm just testing negs on base Pony by simple 1girling looking at viewer
and there she is, anime girl Pony edition https://files.catbox.moe/mpgk7d.png
what a piece of shit
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>>8134468
Some styles don't want to "stick" and just end up looking like generic pony, for those keeping the artist name in as an activation tag helps. But it is a pain to use like that, especially on Comfy where you don't have tag autofill.
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>>8134471
That's the score_9 girl. Here, same prompt/seed with score_6_up instead.
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>>8134476
nvm the seed randomized
it's this one
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>>8134470
Well maybe just write down exactly what you did step by step so that it's completely reproducible. A scientist might not understand why they got the results they did but they can at least write down all the materials and techniques used so someone else can replicate it.
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>>8134473
ill keep that in mind if I need it
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Tree is the last glimpse of hope local has left. Wonder how xir sweet talked jordach into working with transformers
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>>8134476
I also got normal anime girls, but it spits this shit at random
using score 9 seems to have positive affect on output with loras, so idk if I should use it or not
also i never was able toreplicate 1:1 gens from anons with same seed, I nothing about technicalities but it seems that same seed gives different noise on different PCs, also it's ancestral
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>>8134485
Why is he talking about finetuning a model when his last project is still month away from being even done
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>>8134490
They managed to get hardware via a couple of different avenues and they have to demonstrate the ability to use up X amount if compute credits in a given time frame. So they'll likely train multiple models at once in the coming months.
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>>8134485
i can't believe xe actually changed jordach's mind about something
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>>8134486
I only get anime girls with score 6. But 9 seems to overpower the source_anime tag and then it's all over the place.
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>>8134355
how long did this take?
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>>8134497
Probably gonna be janned, but your stuff is always based.
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>>8134355
>>8134497
Man I fucking AOMsloppa, unironically. I wish we had a model with this exact style but Autism-level quality or at least a decent style LoRA.
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any new lewd models out since pony that arent just mixes?
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>>8134503
Artiwaifu and Heart of Apple
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>>8134368
bullshit, lying faggot
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>>8134485
Sounds more like they want to make synth data with flux.
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>>8134516
Eh, Euphoria stuff isn't my cup of tea. Im happy that tech allows people to do this shit though.
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>>8134516
>no mention of shit
Gigabased, I was afraid having a competent AOMslopper was too good to be true and that you were one of those sc*tfag subhumans.
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Are minigirls /d/ ?
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Minigirls get my d
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>>8134227
is that a joke about how shirou turns black later on?
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Give me your oppailolis.
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>want to jerk off to animated anal for a change
>99% of the combination of those tags on danbooru is Rule34shit
Man txt2vid can't come soon enough, I fucking hate Rule 34 and the fact that animated OC you can wank to all you want without permanently ruining your perception a game/anime/manga is a small minority so much.
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>>8134552
it's just stress induced tan
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>>8134558
Skin he unlocked for killing 1000 middle easterners
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dead
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Why doesn't it learn colors..
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>>8134592
If you're not training a VAE you're stuck with whatever fucked color understanding it has
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Such a shame NAI can't do styles like this for shit.
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>>8134604
VAE has nothing to do with it though
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>>8134604
If you ever used alt init noise or just i2i-ed from black image, you'd see that you can get very dark scenes and (almost) perfectly black backgrounds with default VAE, so it's not the issue.
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>>8134613
*thoughever
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I can see it starting to fry already but it somehow locked itself on 17% overall brightness as a minimum and 89% as a maximum
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>>8134613
>>8134617
The VAE is responsible for transforming the color channels into latent "color" channels and then back into the normal color space. SDXL for example is biased toward yellow due to the way the VAE has coded color information as (Luminance, Cyan/Red, Lime/Purple, Pattern/Structure) from the original RGB-channels.
To actually fix this, you would need to retrain the VAE, yes.
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>>8134628
This has nothing to do with the fact it can't learn what a pure white is, anon. This is the whitest it gets.
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after playing with flux, i simply lost all interest in these shittunes. i dont care about the slow progress made on some years out-of-date shitty sai framework anymore. wdv, cascade, pony 6.9. they all just seem irrelevant and shitty now.
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>>8134632
>What a 12b transformer model does to a mfer
Better start a fundraiser for an auraflow finetune
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>>8134632
I remember similar reactions after Dalle was released. You'll come by.
Considering that, realistically, you won't be able to train on Flux for a long while, it might be as well considered closed source with tits for now. It's an amazing thing that we got something open-weight for future, but for now, for anime coomslop, SDXL really is fine.
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>>8134632
enjoy your 1 girl, smiling i guess
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What is this, is this my solid black background?
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>>8134639
that's Pony demon miasma
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>>8134592
some math bullshit related to the noise selection used during training iirc
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>>8134640
This stuff doesn't have a single drop of pony.
>>8134641
Please elaborate.
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>>8134628
I can easily reuse the same vae with animagine and there's no yellow tint at all, so obviously this VAE is enough to encode everything you need color-wise. Details-wise there's not enough channels obviously, but
>(Luminance, Cyan/Red, Lime/Purple, Pattern/Structure)
if you want to change this particular structure it would require full model retrain anyway, not a small finetune, same as with adding extra channels.
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>>8134643
i don't know what any of this shit actually means
https://www.crosslabs.org/blog/diffusion-with-offset-noise
https://wandb.ai/johnowhitaker/multires_noise/reports/Multi-Resolution-Noise-for-Diffusion-Model-Training--VmlldzozNjYyOTU2
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>>8134647
Anon, I'm using v-prediction, for which this stuff is pretty irrelevant.
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>>8134552
probably a joke about shirou himself being an annoying faggot
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>>8134611
it can do mmd but yea pony has superior 3d
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>>8134611
like this? it can, as another anon said it can do mmd good enough. try tags like blender (medium), 3d as well, maybe koikatsu.
but yea, like >>8134677 said, pony's 3d quality with good loras is amazing, unironically.
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>update
>hiresfix stops working in most situations
can anyone figure out what is fucked up here
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>>8134687
Maybe a stroke from that awful prompt or running out of memory
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>>8134687
Are you using controlnet? Sometimes I find that there's a weird option in there that appears and disappears if you turn hiresfix off and on again.
It'll show up as "Hires-fix Option" and until I click off hiresfix and then back on, it sometimes doesn't show up. Having an option not selected was where I think I saw that same error before
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>>8134677
>>8134681
Eh, it's mid at it. The 3D look is pretty weak and Blender is missing that skin detailing and reflections, it looks "dry" for lack of a better word. Not related to styles but NAI also tends to have a strong bias towards vaginal, I had to go through a couple of seeds to get this and even then the Blender one looks like vaginal with a tail coming out of her ass.
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>>8134695
Extremely based, holy shit!
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Rip cascade object permanence
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why are all the public sdxl models have a burnt in style?
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>>8134698
neta 2 doesn't have one
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>>8134702
catbox??
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>>8134691
ah i used to have that problem, that option always shows up for me though, i am infact using controlnet but the error can happen without controlnet active
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>>8134702
are we finally getting new iteration of melanin-rich male spam
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>>8134702
Doesn't hit the say when it's local. The thrill comes from twisting and corrupting NAIs innate beauty.
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The year is 2044. Technology and AI have progressed to the point of not being distinguishable from real human work, but years of cooming has left AI hobbyists seeking increasingly baroque methods of attaining pleasure. Instead of finding arousal from images generated, these hobbyists have interfaced with their setups so deeply that the mere image of a prompt could send them over. They imagine it so vividly, whispering tags like '1girl' and 'dark-skinned male' under their fourth chin. Especially advanced users can light up their neurons with the mere stimuli of a finely tuned setup. They'll note the figurative knobs and dials as being perfectly in order. It's all tested, every sampler, every step count, every CFG slider, and every upscaling process. It all culminates into a ladder to climb further into the depths of a non-human hell. A departure from the soul. Just a few decades ago, people speculated and joked over AI being the death of us. Of there being an 'uprising'. But they'll shudder to imagine that we didn't fight AI, but rather that we allowed AI to lull us into a colder and darker place.
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>>8134705
no I don’t tend to share my prompts even the ones that create mutated monstrosities like this
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>>8134697
is this why every cascade gen looks like someone took a 512x image and ran it through topaz gigapixel? the thumbnails look alright then you open the image and its 5x the size and looks melted as fuck. has anyone tried a classic 'hiresfix' workflow with it?
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>>8134722
Thing is you have to adjust the compression level depending on the size of what you're genning. I'm guessing most people just leave it on default which is bad for both base gens and hiresfix.
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>>8134728
What's this? Latest snake oil paper?
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>>8134734
cascade latent compression
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>>8134718
Actually not bad, what styles?
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>>8134740
guweiz
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>>8134741
Just guweiz? Alright ty
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>>8134728
>>8134722
It's very easy actually, just leave compression at 32 when you upscale and you will get the same level of detail as sdxl at same resolutions (which is still a shit level of detail but that's a different topic).
Example: >>8133915
Obviously this is still fucked because 1b is too dumb to even draw eyes well up close, but 3.6b should be okay.
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>>8134748
Old examples from 3.6b prototype for comparison (repost): https://catbox.moe/c/x4dxu4
They are obviously more well drawn, but there's too little data for most styles, characters, and concepts in the proto.
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what upscaler were you recommending to use instead of 4xNomos8kDat?
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>>8134761
lanczos (unironically)
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>>8134763
>lanczos
Good ol reliable since like the 00's
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>>8134748
>same level of detail as sdxl at same resolutions
lol
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i rabu this stye
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>>8132028
>>8132491
>>8132778
>>8133406
>>8133548
>>8134216
Top 10 highlighterinos
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>>8134776
>Top 10
>links 6 images
???
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>>8134467
https://rentry.org/d2ckzxmq#difference-training
idk if i'm missing anything
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>>8134777
That's intentional
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are the new NAI features any good or just more gimmicks? Haven't touched img gen since they announced that vibe transfer thing, which I also don't know if it's worth a damn
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>>8134786
Not worth it just for 25$/month
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Is forge couple broken on reforge-dev? I'm getting a ton of prompt bleed despite only having 2 regions and fairly short prompts
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>>8134779
Thanks. I'll try and give this another go.
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is there a big performance loss if i were to use forge in a VirtualMachine with ayymd card?
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>gr**dspam
finally some good fucking food
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>the straight man's gay porn
Very apt indeed.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/1eihljy/comment/lg7a3b4/
Yeah, guess we have to wait a couple gpu gens for that flux finetune
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>>8134807
>https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/1eihljy/comment/lg7a3b4/
>used DeepSpeed ZeRO stage 3 (jesus lawd almighty) offload to pull the whole model into a rank-64 LoRA over 8x H100s, which is perfectly doable, and probably even in a reasonable period of time, since they're H100s. but it's very slow, even for H100s, at 47 seconds per step of training.
WTF???? Youre telling me a step thats that long WITH 8(EIGHT) !! h100s??? Is that a joke? Pony has like 2a100s
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>>8134821
a sinlge h100 costs 35k btw, thats 280k for the cards alone. The whole grid itself costs most likely 300k.
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>>8134807
flux should've been 8b. it's simply not good looking enough to warrant it being 12b. i can fit it in 24gb but the results lack the detail that even XL is capable of. reminds me a lot of cascade and hunyuan in that regard
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girls peeing from their vaginas is Pony problem or that's universal and due to mosaic censoring?
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>>8134824
I feel like a lot of it's shortcomings are down to the synthetic dataset, same with auraflow.
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>>8134826
Why couldn't they have just used synthetic datasets with good details? Does that really not exist?
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>>8134827
synthetic dataset is just a nicer way of saying AI generated outputs so no it doesn't exist. i assume that at some point epic is probably going to start selling high quality synthetic datasets though
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>>8134827
synthetic data is garbage
garbage in, garbage out
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>>8134829
Not inherently, no.
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>>8134786
You can look at what the japanese are doing with it here:
https://tyoieronews.blog.jp/archives/1083524358.html
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>Civit added flux as a category for loras and finetunes
They sure are optimistic
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>>8134835
flux?
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>>8134828
>synthetic dataset
you know i've used synthetic datasets, not for imagegens but to make specific yolo and classification, they're pretty good to pad out an existing dataset,
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>>8134838
new mostly sfw generalist model
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>>8134842
>generalist
what does that mean?
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>>8134838
Flux-Kompensator, just needs 1.21 gigawatts.
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>>8134835
they also unbanned SD3
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>>8134842
its iits own archiecture?
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>>8134845
so was the issue with sd3 claiming owndership of anythuing made with it resolved?
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>>8134846
very similar to sd3 from what i've seen
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post funny prompts
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>>8134848
https://civitai.com/articles/6221/sd3-unbanned-community-decision-on-its-future-at-civitai
i guess yeah
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>>8134840
i don't think that a synthetic dataset is a bad thing, i only use synthetic data at this point unless i'm training a style. i just don't use ai generated images
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>>8134852
?
Isn't a synthetic dataset AI generated by definition
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Those retards actually worship pony
>uhm yeah, that TRANSFORMER based diffusion model that's literally 12b parameter?
>pony will find a way
Kek, those retards actually worship that dude
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>>8134855
Rent free or elaborate troll, call it
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>>8134853
when AI companies refer to it that's what they mean but by actual definition there's no AI requirement. it's basically any artificial approximation of real world data
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>>8134728
That looks OP-able.
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>>8134617
>alt init
do you just lower the brightness max and it works? or are there other things i should change
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>>8134222
Yukong from Star Rail getting bred by her new husband
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>>8134850
WATCH OUT A JANNY IS TAKING DOWN THESE IMAGES CAUSE THEY ARE A FAG
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Ever wondered where cocogoat milk comes from?
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>>8134855
they dont realize how doom it actually is. they think astralite can perform infinite miracles despite him taking L after L even since v6. i dont even think he has the compute for it. people actually think this is just like gamedev or open source coding where you can eventually just 'add the feature' and and suddenly works. they dont even understand the very concept of training
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>>8134874
based
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>>8134878
thanks. I just made it
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>>8134869
RIP in piss
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>>8134875
How does this screenshot relate to Astra?
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>>8134884
it's from a reddit thread that was basically just idiots posting about how exited they were for when astralite releases pony flux
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>>8134875
yeah, the times of "random dude creates os software that literally outcompetes the shit of bigcorpo" is long over. You need tremendous compute. You need to try again and again.
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>>8134885
>>8134884
to add to that, acting like as if its a FACT. They talk about it as if its only a time, any dude that asks how Astra is gonna do that its literally
>porn finds a way
Despite porn not doing any finding for the last 6 months
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reforge guy here

>>8134163
>>8134164
>>8134169

Thanks anon, then I will continue with reForge.

Also, gonna still do some branches with custom things based on OG Forge

https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-reForge/commits/main_new_forge/

I think I can also port some extensions into this new one, adapting some backend changes from the extensions into this new Forge backend.

In the meanwhile added some samplers (mostly the base comfy ones and HeunPP2, IPNDM and IPNDM_V.)

To add CFG++ Samplers I have to understand the change that Illya did to set_model_options_post_cfg_function.

This thing is gradio 4 tho, so experimental on experimental changes.

For the main reforge branches (or well dev_upstream) I will keep trying add SD3/Cascade/Flux, but I think I got burnt out yesterday after being 12 hours per day trying to implement them, and more VRAM optimizations etc.
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>>8134853
not always,
for instance if im trying to make a barcode detection model,
i have pictures of barcodes in the wild but also images generated with a barcode making library with random values,
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>>8134890
Also to add, Illya new backend is pretty similar on some parts vs Comfy. Not the same but it differs maybe not that much.

Illya said that 80% of the backend is done, 30 hours left and then new features inc.

I will try to either downgrade to gradio 3.x or making it stable.
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>>8134855
its not even about pony, its endless idiot copers that do it with every release thinking SOMEONE ELSE will come and fix it for them no matter how hard and how fucked the model is, and the byproduct is them defending the authors that fucked the models in the first place
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How to I make it so only one character in a scene gets a trait I want? I want to have only one girl have elf ears, but adding elf to the prompt, even where all the other features for that character are makes both characters elves.
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Can Pony do THIS?
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>>8134906
yes easily, now make the male smaller
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>>8134902
calm down jordach
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>>8134906
post metadata or be known as BobsBlazed forever!
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>>8134904
Regional prompting, but
>>8134790
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>>8134904
That's still unfortunately one of the hurdles of generative AI art, prompt bleeding I mean, the BREAK prompt only does so much to separate the chara traits, youll have to use an extension like regional prompter or forge couple. inpainting is always an option as much as a meme it is.
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wait, is she being hypnotized or am I being hypnotized?
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>>8134914
shjould i play paradox been on my backloag for a logn time but i dontmkn know
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>>8134910
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>>8134914
looks like a case of rape correction being needed
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>>8134639
Wonder what's with that black border, it's slowly expanding the more I train it.
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>>8134880
How are you doing these backgrounds?
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>>8134832
holy shit, this is really really good for doujin scanlation
hell, just scanlation in general. I wonder how well it works for b/w pages.
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>>8134904
You can try natural language prompting like "girl has pointy ears" and if the others in the scene are boys they should be exempt.
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>>8134832
thats pretty crazy
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>>8134924
I think some anons already posted black and white examples. It's a very good declutter, way better than lama, but terrible at colorize. Still feels gimmicky though, but so did vibe transfer until recently.
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>>8134931
I mean, it's gimmicky if all you do is gen images to jerk off
this tool specifically is just photoshop's Firefly except way easier to use and tailor made for anime style, so the results are infinitely better
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>>8134923
black background, blurred background
nothing crazy

And for anyone who wants it:
Chrome from mon-musu_quest!
https://files.catbox.moe/gry2mp.safetensors
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>>8134932
>I mean, it's gimmicky if all you do is gen images to jerk off
Is a better lama cleaner really worth $25 a month though? It's not that I only gen images to jerk off but that I only ever use lama to clean images for lora datasets so I'd use it rarely. Maybe scanlation will drastically improve, but even then is it worth paying NAI?
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>>8134934
good point. I still have a fuckton of points from when I was subbed so I completely forgot about the monthly fee.
Probably not worth if that's all you'll use it for, true.
I'm excited about it because I've wasted soo much time doing stuff that this thing can do in seconds
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>reforge doesnt support zluda
>the amdgpu forge fork is broken thanks to the forge repo also being broken
>a1111 is slow
>the amdgpu a1111 version is a mess
>comfyui requires autism that i cannot adequately invest in because inpainting on that is cancer, and still a necessity
>could use linux and rocm but i cannot for the life of me get this working stable
i wish you all knew how much this hurt
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>>8134933
https://files.catbox.moe/9m3aoh.png
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>>8134934
i think a big thing would be that you dont have to draw masks and it does a good job in one shot, though this kind of thing would be WAY more useful locally since you still have to drag and drop images into their shitty window and click the button each time
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>>8134938
use swarm for comfy but with a slightly better ui
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>>8134942
I'd wager theres more knowledge necessary to get AMD GPUs usable. There's fixes but jesus christ it's all aids to actually do some of this shit. It's all dependency hell.
>>8134943
Will consider this.
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Here is a /hdg/ top tip for helping to find lora's that give you better sex and anatomy with default pony:

A lot of people say you can fix Pony's anatomy issues with 1 or more good style loras, and that's mostly true. However, what defines a good lora to begin with?

Not surprisingly, a style lora with lots of training images, (at minimum 100, more is better) where said images contain an artist who does hentai and said images have been tagged in detail with correct booru tags.

Unfortunately a lot of style lora's amongst the highest rated on civitai don't fit those criteria, e.g only 40-50 images at most, lazy tagging and sometimes containing score and source tags (can be seen by checking lora metadata in webui), and probably hasn't been trained on more than quarter of the artist's work. Yes you achieve the style, but this isn't enough to fix pony.

So my advice is to check the metadata when you download a lora. How many images has it been trained on? What tags does it contain? Is the amount of tags rather lackluster or does it seem detailed enough?

On a final note, I will shill this guys loras on civitai, might be a baker from here. Seem to all have been trained on more than 200-300 images,well tagged and they work really well with default pony in my experience:
https://civitai.com/user/DadBeater/models

If anyone else have recommendations of good style bakers on civitai, please share them!
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>>8134952
plese respond
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>>8134957
that pic is juicy, catbox?
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>>8134938
If you're the AMD anon that was asking about intel arc, trust me when I say it's just worse. I can't even really inpaint at all because of a hardware design decision that makes me OoM when it tries to allocate above 4gb vram despite my card having 16gb (and the software fix doesn't work, also it makes everything 30% slower)

It really is nvidia or bust unfortunately, for now
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>>8134961
>for now
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>>8134961
intel is poison right now,
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>>8134962
let me cope in peace, but I'm buying a nvidia card anyway
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>>8134960
Here you go Mr./Ms. anon:
https://files.catbox.moe/idaqst.png
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https://github.com/SusungHong/SEG-SDXL?tab=readme-ov-file

Anyone try this yet? I don't really understand what it does from the example images, makes things cleaner as a form of controlnet?
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>>8134966
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>>8134906
pony can't do balls deep
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>>8134966
i don't think even comfy has it yet
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>x can't do y
10% of the time it's true, 90% of the time it's a skill issue
source: your mothers dirty anus
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>>8134961
Yeah that's me, I dipped out for a while because the brain rot was too much. I even went as far as swapping my GPU out of that machine
Yet here I am seeing what changed and realizing everything fucking broke. Before I bailed I tried out a 7700S on my framework laptop to see how that fares, and turns out the low vram management on forge (pre-fucked) didnt play nice with it so generating any SDXL on it was basically impossible at that time. Turns out the 7700S is a little unusual, and it being an 8x pcie link on the framework wasnt helping. Performed well where it could though, it's no slouch but basically unusable for the moment.
>Arc
Battlemage any day now... any day now.

I was going to go for a Moore Threads S80 but the price is retarded and the fact I'd have a coinflip on whether it would do CUDA workloads or not is not worth the cost given how poorly it performs, plus they have their own fork of torch so that's not helping either. The card uses stolen Nvidia IP for sure and that's why there's potentially a way it works there, but you'd also have to use their special changes or pray some other autist would be willing to support this, and given the way Intel shit is playing out I dont see that happening. We truly live in dark times.
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>>8134972
loras/inpainting doesn't count
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>>8134957
>Not surprisingly, a style lora with lots of training images, (at minimum 100, more is better) where said images contain an artist who does hentai and said images have been tagged in detail with correct booru tags.
That's how I do mine. I put a fuckload of effort into making sure I have a shitload of images, images that have actual sex, and hand tag each image to make sure it's all correct. I do quite a bit of manual painting as well, to fix weird shit or outcrop images, mask out text, and stuff like that. This was before the days of latent masking.

At one point during the Tekuho training (the v2 version that wasn't uploaded), I even went through each image, and tried to prompt it exactly so that each caption was as accurate as possible. That test was a bit inconclusive compared to regular hand tagging. For the loras that have an involved training, I try to put my process down on the description so others can read it. Though I doubt anyone actually does.
https://civitai.com/user/anon4324
The only one that doesn't have my official seal of quality is the "bimbo makeup" one. I was brand new to training, and needed it for one specific use case for a project. I only uploaded it because it seemed like the thing to do. Why it has so many downloads, and why it still gets them is beyond me. It's a bad lora. I just leave it up because people still use it on the site apparently.

But yeah, for my own reasons, I try as hard as I fuckin can to make my shit as good as possible. I hate style bleed on characters, I hate when characters aren't captured accurately, and I hate when style loras don't look like the style and can't do jack shit.
All that being said, I haven't trained many Pony models. The Teku Pony one was just a preliminary test with the training data I had on hand, and that was all lost in a HDD crash.
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>>8134973
>Battlemage any day now... any day now.
I think it'll probably be a lot better, intel are investing a lot into AI and it'll be a more traditional architecture, alchemist is weird as fuck. That said, I'm still more than likely just gonna get a nvidia card this gen and just forget about it for a while, especially after the oxidation shit that's been going on with their cpus, don't wanna risk that
Also forgot to mention but there's some sort of corruption bug when you gen at standard SDXL resolutions, not that big of an issue compared to the other things but still sucks
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>>8134222
>>8129208
that needs a creampie
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>>8134977
All I can say is based. Perhaps I will try your Tekuho lora later!

>>8134957
Also this is how dadbeaters loras look on base pony - I've used a mix of his with some other loras I had lying around.
https://files.catbox.moe/ne2u28.png
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>>8134986
local nai lessgoooooooo
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>>8134988
>>8134986
>less than 1 mil files
It's over
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do you think with the compute used to produce all those shitty loras on civit it would've been possible to get our own naiv3 model?
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>>8134991
it would be possible to train flux for like 10 times
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>>8134991
what? you mean does civitai have the compute to train a good model? probably more than jordach does at least, same with all the other shit like seaart and magespace. they already tried that, its called Open Model Initiative made up of civitai, invokeai, and comfyui members. it has so far accomplished absolutely nothing and can't even agree on a dataset and how much censorship is enough.
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>>8135000
the only censorship should be on gross western style art or any art trying for realism rather than stylised .
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>>8134948
box please
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Don't open.
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>>8134971
Someone on g did:
>>>/g/101710957
https://github.com/pamparamm/sd-perturbed-attention
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>>8135015
you know if seg affects performance same as pag?
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>>8134807
>>8134821
I don't know what that guy is about. So many misinformations in a single comment. Full finetune in fp32 would need 3x80GB VRAM gpus but no one needs to train in fp32. Drop down to fp16/bf16 with something like an adam8bit and you are already down to almost 1x80GB VRAM gpus. And that's without any sort of checkpointing, gradient accumulation and other stuff. LoRA should be possible at 24GB VRAM, but 100% without TE training. The only question is, how do you even train a distilled model. No one fucking knows other than the devs of it.
https://x.com/ostrisai/status/1819802556261863925
add to that grad accumulation and remove text encoders and you possibly get LoRA on below 24gb
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>>8135019
Haven't tried it yet so no clue. Honestly too tired to get out of bed and turn on my PC
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>>8135021
even if loras become possible, without a full finetune it's still useless for /h/
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>>8135025
Your only hope is neggles, literally. At least they have access to the code
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>>8135033
The only hope I have when it comes to neggles is that he kills himself
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Wait people slop with INTEL? And I thought I was fucked with amd... just... how? How is it possible? I'm a sloppa illiterate but I'm genuinely curious
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It's fucking over. Over and done
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>>8135043
What exactly are you asking? You just install it and run it, it's not very fast and there's a bunch of bugs that make it annoying but it does work
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>>8134988
>>8134989
see you in seven hours
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>>8135047
I didn't know. I guess I just fucking suck for going amd...
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>>8135052
Nah, amd is definitely a bit better at this than intel is still
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>>8135058
I guess I suck a little less now then
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>>8135061
>>8135052
I kinda regret it a bit just a tiny bit. I could choose between a 6650XT and a 3060 with 12gb I ended up going with the Radeon and for games it is better but you can't do much for this
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>>8135051
What are you baking?
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>>8135051
Am I retarded? 800k images and only 12k steps? That seems wrong.
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>>8135067
Big batch size*grad accum probably.
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>Got nothing to do today
>Oh I'm just gonna fuck around a bit with AI
>Spend the next six hours fucking around with new LORAs, models and random shit

AI is extremely dangerous
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>>8135076
dude just stop jerking off haha
Like how is AI even real dude just walk away from the PC
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>>8135077
>dude just stop jerking off haha
but what if I'm trying to make some else jerk off with my slop?
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>>8134981
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>>8135080
Well you're not posting it here judging by that image to post count my man
What gives big guy?
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>>8135080
That's such a waste of time. I could make a great image for myself but someone else will be like "UGH YOU DIDNT SPEND 6 HOURS PERFECTING THIS IMAGE, WHY WOULD YOU EVER POST THIS SLOP?"
I just gen for myself
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>>8135083
ultra based
>>8135082
i'm just shy
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>>8135089
Well look, anyone can just steal a random catbox from one of the threads like >>8135081 this one and post some generic hentai bullshit.
I even used a lora I made today for this image, isn't that swell?
And only I would've ever seen this mediocre image if I didn't post it publically to a Mongolian basket weaving forum
Isn't that just quackin' crazy Jimbo?
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>>8134906
What model is this
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>>8135092
The legs... long and ultra-thin. That's the stuff. Please gen her 1girl standing towering over me (or maybe leaning forward, hands on own knees) from worm's eye view while preserving these proportions.
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>>8135097
I'll look into it
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>>8135097
like dis?
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>>8135102
Thanks, but you need to go way more (((from below)))! So that legs are fully visible (besides feet maybe).
Love panties under pantyhose though.
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>>8135102
try from below:1.8
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>>8135095
c14a6c5e97
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>>8135104
>>8135105
okay, definitely got it this time
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>>8135107
>stacking 300loras on top of pony to make a new model
wtf
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>>8135110
The more cooks you add, the better the food.
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>>8135112
I checked a few pixiv prompt that I liked earlier and all of them had schizo prompt so Im starting to believe this place is full of shit and you have to add retarded tag like (incredibly detailed:1.4) to get better result
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reforge dev, how hard would be to add an alternative of automaticCFG from same guy?
https://github.com/Extraltodeus/Skimmed_CFG
https://www.reddit.com/r/comfyui/comments/1ej8kt9/skimmed_cfg_no_more_excuses_for_bad_images/
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>>8135108
Revolution 60 sisters.. our concerted response?!
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>>8135108
based CLAMPgod
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>>8135116
Checking that code, is for Comfy right? It seems pretty easy to port (I hope I'm not wrong IoI). It seems all code is just 150 lines?

It would be as other extensions, dev_upstream only.

I'm doing some loras X/Y comparisons. After ranking them I can give it a go at this.
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>>8135108
Kek. BUT it's not even really from below now:(
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>just finished final fantasy 7 rebirth
I miss her bros. Also, she died a virgin, so sad.
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please help me i've been naipilled
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>>8135126
Welcome aboard, sister. Us local+nai empowered individuals have no boundaries.
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Oversexxed JKs...
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How does one attach metadata with their image exports? Not that I have anything worth posting yet, but it seems like a good way to keep track of things while I'm learning. I'm using ComfyUI
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>>8135134
Pretty sure all the interfaces automatically add it to all saved outputs unless you disable it.
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>>8135133
pull those panties higher
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>>8135135
Really? Where the fuck is my metadata then. How do I check it's there
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>>8135124
this image is too based
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>>8135039
is this a lora trained on some manga? very cool
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>>8135122
thank you for being so based
before you came along we had to wait for some rando to maybe port new shit that only had comfy nodes
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I sleep.
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>>8135141
It was actually trained on a character named Penance made by James Hardiman.
Don't look him up, he drew nothing but furshit
Surely you're not into THAT kind of thing. RIght?
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>>8135137
Throw the image into your UI.
Using most image editing tools will wipe metadata. Uploading to 4chan also wipes it.
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>>8135147
if you want to upload to 4chan while retaining metadata you need this
https://gist.github.com/catboxanon/ca46eb79ce55e3216aecab49d5c7a3fb
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>>8135147
>>8135148
Ok great, thanks for explaining
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>>8135146
huh that's neat, his art is pretty cool, rip
>Surely you're not into THAT kind of thing. RIght?
nah but seeing it doesn't bother me, demon and satyr girls are right up my alley tho. could you share the lora?
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So I got a random image gen with an absolutely amazing style to it, and I have no idea how to recreate this style. Am I fucked?
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>>8135125
do we tell him zackbros?
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>>8135081
good. much better now
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>>8135172
Post a catbox
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>>8135122
>>8135143
Update for this. I did try quickly now but failed, I guess because how CFG is defined between A1111 vs Comfy (and on this part it actually matters sadly, mostly because the set_model_sampler_pre_cfg_function function.

Maybe can keep trying tomorrow, gonna sleep now. Added a commit with something as base if someone wants to check

https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-reForge/commit/3984f25874d1946f3473f238fbebaf228d025367

Not sure if the guy that made the extension from comfy can help with this for reforge.

And at the end it was harder than I supposed to port :(
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>>8135156
I just rebaked it, so I'll upload to catbox now
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>>8135185
handsome orc
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>ask chatgpt to write me a script to scrape images for lora datasets
>ask chatgpt to write me a script to resize said images to SDXL dimensions while respecting aspect ratio
>do quick run through and delete images I think are ugly or unsuitable for a lora dataset while watching anime
>get ai to detect duplicate images and remove dupes
>get booru dataset tag manager to tag everything for me
>do quick run through the tag list and double check any questionable/often confused tags
>delete useless tags
>cook lora
>ez pz, almost no real work required
I fucking love AI you guys wtf, I wonder if I could train something to learn my aesthetic preferences from monitoring what I keep/delete to make a 'good lora' then eventually automating that, too..
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>>8135182
What is that supposed to do?
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i love elves and orcs
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>>8135042
kek, same.
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>>8135191
sadly that wont make your lora good anyways
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>>8135191
must be nice making loras for characters with more than 5 images in existence anon.
My life is a living hell, but its fun.

Here's Penance from artist James Hardiman
https://files.catbox.moe/a330o9.safetensors

And here's a style lora for artist eisu (eith):
https://files.catbox.moe/jbbon6.safetensors
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>>8135195
speak for yourself skill issue saar, my loras are always good
>>8135196
>must be nice making loras for characters with more than 5 images in existence anon.
I don't envy you, but I do respect you
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>>8135197
Don't respect me, I'm a porn addict with free time
The firefighters are the real heros
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So did anyone ever get RAUNet working well enough to become standard in their workflow. I've tried a lot and I can never get it to behave well.
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>>8135197
got an example of your lora?
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>>8135212
the one I'm cooking right now isn't /h/, but since it's a style I'll post it when I wake up in the morning, sure
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>>8135216
Do you have other lora you already did tho?
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>>8135227
of course? I've been baking sdxl for nearly a year straight. I'm not linking my stuff that's tied to my identity to this shithole, though, you can live to wait until the morning kek
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>>8135185
Orc looks like he is about to say "I'am kawaii desu~" or something.
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>>8134984
>Perhaps I will try your Tekuho lora later!
Sounds good! I gotta say though, the Pony one isn't exactly where I'd like it, so your mileage may vary. As said, that one was just a preliminary test to figure out if I could train a PXL model. If I were able to do a v2 of it, I'd probably do a good bit more fine tuning with it to make it better, since there seems to be enough of a difference between 1.5 and Pony to warrant some more experimentation. Though now that I lost all the data, it's not likely to happen.
I'm quite happy with my 1.5 models though. Save for the one I mentioned.
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>update reforge today
>It's ignoring my loras now
I got so used to updates working I forgot how awful it was to update every time something changed in a1111.
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>>8135188
>>8135196
thanks! appreciate it
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>>8134934
You wouldn't pay $25 for only declutter though, you get the image gen model, inpaint and dressup doll thing too.
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>>8134873
box? looking good
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FIRST FLUX FINE-TUNE
>FIRST FLUX-FINETUNE
FIRST FLUX FINE-TUNE
>FIRST FLUX FINE-TUNE
https://civitai.com/models/621563
>https://civitai.com/models/621563
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>>8135273
Can it do hentai? If it can't, fuck off
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>>8135273
>Even civitai is suspect of it
Demos show just 3d cartoon monsters so what's the point, what is it doing different from flux.
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>>8135145
box?
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>>8135145
Sexo
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What happens if you put "pussy" in your positive AND negative prompts? Singularity?
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>>8135282
positives are always stronger than negatives
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>>8135283
but what if I put [[[[pussy]]]] in the positives and {{{{{{pussy}}}}}} in the negatives?
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>>8135273
why's it so ugly
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>>8135286
you're thinking small. You should put (pussy:-1) on positives
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>>8135273
axicec should shut the fuck up theres probably some dumb file size upload limit being bypassed here
maybe, i dont know. someone can correct me
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>>8135282
you get some unusual results like i got when i gambled and the roll put futanari in neg and pos and the result was pic related. make of this whatever you want
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how do I tag (for training) a multicolored legging? just legging? it's white on the front, and black behind, so maybe both tags? black leggings, white leggings
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>>8135299
still not hentai, fuck off
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>>8135306
Just use what autotagger gives it (likely both colors). If it's an important piece of a character outfit then have it be part of the outfit trigger token
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Uhhh, hello? Excuse me?? What's up with resonance not having izumi_konata?
What?..
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>>8135311
Jordach hashed all of the lucky star characters because he caught luckypedoposter talking about him here
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>>8135317
Only kona is missing.
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uh wheres the coomtent?!
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>>8135322
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>>8134957
Checked out this guy on civitai and realised I already used 2 loras from him, pretty good stuff.
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>>8135341
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>>8135066
An experiment to see if I can train nai 1.5 to understand sex stuff as well as the latest architectures,
that is fine tune of the base model , no loras or mixes.
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>>8135350
I hope you captioned it with some visual LLM
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>>8135355
nope, just tags
the vllms ive encounter struggle with 2d animu stuff and if they will answer sex stuff only answers the same generic phrase the same time.
plus this is more of a experiment rather some final product, I want to see if in theory 1.5 was enough.
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>>8135357
>he vllms ive encounter struggle with 2d animu stuff and if they will answer sex stuff only answers the same generic phrase the same time.
It's a common problem and its solvable if you feed danbooru tags to visual LLM as is and ask it to describe the pic. It actually starts to produce decent outputs, and ponyv6 was captioned this way.
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>>8135358
ive played around with that, it wasn't consistent enough for my liking,
hell just giving the tags to llama 3 with no visual component and asking it to create a caption was giving results that made more sense.
personally as far as classifying anime stuff in detail I just don't think CLIP is good for it. Honestly I think someone should just take a vlm model and swap out the CLIP visual component with one of smilingwofl autotaggers and just train an auto caption model with that.
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>type:none error on random gens now with raunet enabled
I never did learn from a1111 to not update every time.
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>>8135360
I don't know which model did you use but if it's 7b or 8b llava retardation, it's not really representative of what those things are capable. You should have used CogVLM(2).
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Taki-sensei is so lucky...
https://catbox.moe/c/vepk8e#gallery-1
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>>8135379
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>>8135381
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anyone please knows the artist prompt to get a artstyle similar to this in novel ai?
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>>8135383
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>>8135385
What was the prompt for the image? Catbox it?
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using multiple loras with XYZ prompt s/r seems broken in the latest version of reforge dev_upstream, i keep getting RuntimeError: Inference tensors do not track version counter. when it switches between them
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Genned on Flux and upscaled in SDXL using MultiDiffusion.
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>>8135412
Did you do any inpainting on the nipples, or was upscaling enough to add areolas?
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>>8135415
The upscaler knew what it was doing at .33 denoise strength. Here's the original image.
https://files.catbox.moe/1btdpd.png
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>>8135125
>Still haven't played rebirth and no PC port announced
Moar Aerith
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>>8135192
Allows Anonie to help answer your question.
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>>8135191
>get ai to detect duplicate images and remove dupes
How did you do this part?
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>>8135267
Yeah but it's saas so use it or lose it. If I was a lora baker or a translator and I only needed one service but everything was bundled, I'd feel pressure to use things I didn't need. It's also telling you didn't say you get 8k context textgen in there also because you already know what I'm saying is true kek. It seems like a good deal because you're getting a lot of stuff bundled together but it really isn't a good deal since I won't use most of it for very long.
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>>8135273
How did he finish this so quickly?
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>>8135423
its a lora baked into clip, not a finetune
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>>8135421
nta but i assume he means this https://dupeguru.voltaicideas.net/

super good and very helpful if you just grab images randomly or forgot weather or not you downloaded duplicates
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>>8135425
Thanks a lot anon.
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>>8135191
getting chat gpt and claude to write a convoluted bucketing+dataset augmentation script for me has been really nice. basically takes 10 minutes to do something that used to take 2-3 hours even when fully automated
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Where do you guys get your loras other than Civitai? The ones there always seem inconsistent or kinda shitty compared to oursâ„¢.

I miss the days of gayshit.
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referring to my complaint yesterday about Pony making too wide hips
can somebody recommend available artist loras with good anatomy? muk and as109 are decent but too cunny for what I'm trying to do right now
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>>8135273
Looks like shit
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https://mega.nz/folder/BSgnUSgb#CmVHkz3NdRDW7kTKQzu4Vw

bleached 2hu folder i made after a furious gooning session
didnt bother inpainting any of these so expect inconsistent quality here and there
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>>8135453
>no tewi
sad.
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>found the formula to kinda sorta emulate my beloved AOMsloppa in NAI
We are so fucking back. If anyone's curious it's
>(realistic:1.2) at beginning of prompt
>k_dpmpp_2s_ancestral
>SMEA but not DYN
>Quality Preset: On
>Negative Preset: Light
Thanks to >>8135368 for inspiration.
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>>8135439
>oursâ„¢
If you typed this you should have already realized most people here make their own. Some people share them on pixeldrain and others have megas. Some people go to nip image boards and get their loras too.
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Herro :3
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>>8135449
>dino
>(dinoartforame)
I usually prefer hourglasses but his skinny b-cup girls really make me diamonds.
>ciloranko
He's become a meme now but I still think this looks good. Worst case you can look up some nips on pixiv and make a style lora from that.
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>>8135463
If you want an AOM esque vibe from NAI, the ai-generated tag is pretty solid. AOM was very much the meta when NAI3 was trained.
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>>8135470
>replace (realistic:1.2) with (ai-generated:1.2)
Oh my god it looks EXACTLY like AOMsloppa I used to generate before Pony, you're a genius anon, thank you. The (realistic:1.2) variant of the formula often generates 3DPDesque mugs instead of the purely 2D faces I'm looking for and those are FAR less desirable than even the mangled hands that inevitably come with (ai-generated:1.2).
Looks kinda shit with the defaults of "automatic" sampling, no SMEA or DYN and Negative Preset: Human though so changing those is still very much required.
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>>8135467
thanks
yeah dino it's decent, pretty much something like this https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/7810655?q=dino_%28dinoartforame%29 is what I'm aiming for, hourglass figure but without "thick goth mommy" shit, but taking into account how little pictures like this he has i doubt lora will capture that
unironically, probably best result will give me lora baked on NAI outputs from pixiv, wo I will look into that
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>>8135475
Yeah that was exactly pic I was thinking of too. Fucking perfect.
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>>8135478
She's bound at the chest but not arms?
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>>8135350
furries found a way, if easyfluff exists i don't see why there can't be the same thing but with hentai, but well there's a difference in tagging..
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>>8135479
because of that picture, I found out that this character has lot of illustrations with nice figure- tall, long legged and medium/small breasts, so I'm going to see if character loras will help with that
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I made a Houtengeki style lora. It works fine enough, but I can't really replicate his smooth shading style with my prompt.

Original: https://wimg.rule34.xxx//images/2896/a0004b2c6fd029606e2537044498d4c1.jpeg?3233795
Mine: https://files.catbox.moe/9idi4m.png
The lora: https://www.mediafire.com/file/essqrb8o1maku7t/houtengeki.safetensors/file

If anybody has any idea how to get closer to the original, let me know
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>>8135492
Post your dataset
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>>8135481
>easyfluff
?
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>>8135474
post more AOM SOVL
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which geforce driver edition do you use, Game Ready or Studio?
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>>8135497
VGH....
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>>8135499
takes me back to comfier times...
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>>8135500
It even got an actual decent-looking background, my jaw is on the floor. The secret sauce was right in front of us all along.
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>>8135498
game ready
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>>8135503
imagine SDXL AOM
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>>8135493
https://www.mediafire.com/file/hukmoiu5ucquv5k/houtengeki.rar/file
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>>8135506
This pretty much IS SDXL AOM, dogshit hands and all. Oh how I miss envybetterhandsLocon_beta2 now...
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Is there a way to prevent settings from getting changed when sending an image to inpaint? I just want to inpaint the face without having to keep reverting the settings each time
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>>8135510
Same everything but with default settings and no (ai-generated:1.2). Literally SOVL vs soulless.
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>>8135508
Alright I'll take a look at it and report back.
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>>8135517
I appreciate it anon. If anybody wants to make a better version of the lora, feel free to use my dataset
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>>8135510
>>8135513
Ah how nostalgic that excessive contrast is
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>>8135520
Just to be clear you wanted the smooth shading right? Because some of the pics have shiny skin like >>8135492
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>>8135521
That and the shading in general were my favorite parts about AOM, I really dislike the bland colors of Pony/default NAIv3.
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>>8135525
Honestly yeah, I'm also so tired of how flat Pony looks
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>>8135524
I assumed the lora might be able to do both, if I prompt for it. Originally, I wanted one for his completely flat style, like https://cdn.donmai.us/original/1b/c4/__original_drawn_by_houtengeki__1bc4bb4af7be4eb545c9efa841718e7b.jpg , but there were so few images of it. Not really sure how to search for that style either, otherwise I would have made a lore with multiple artists
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>>8135531
I ask because there's slightly different styles in the dataset like you said so idk how it's "supposed" to look. Ideally you would be able to prompt for it if you tagged it as something unique.
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>>8135492
Is this more in line with what you had in mind?
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>>8135542
It is! What did you change? I'd ask for a catbox, but you're on comfy and I use Forge
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>>8135548
>>8135549
kino gens
nice lighting and nice shading
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>>8135547
Here's the prompt, hope forge can do negpip. I was also able to get completely flat colors by using just "flat color" as the prompt, the most important thing here is just using only the score 9 tag though
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>>8135495
vpred 1.5 furry model merge that was also trained on higher resolutions than 512x512.
There is HLL to make it anime though
https://rentry.org/5exa3
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>>8135525
Nobody knows this, but NAIv2 is very colorful.
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We should all stop using autismMix, it make everything worse
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>>8135548
>>8135549
>>8135550
>>8135552
Nice stuff. Box?
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>>8135553
Thank you anon, I really appreciate your help!
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>rediscover AOM
>blow the biggest thickest load since the release of pony
Yeah, no two ways about it: We. Are. Back. Count me as a NAI shill because it can do AOM and Pony can't.
Also seems like Negative Preset: Heavy still avoids the 3DPDfication that often happens on Human but noticeably improves hands (pic unrelated, just a general observation).
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What will the MHA NTR poster do, now that the manga has ended and he can't do chapter previews anymore?
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>>8135556
what is HLL?
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>>8135571
lora
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>>8135566
Kinda weird how you brainwashed yourself to find the shitty AOM look hot (same desu)
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>>8135565
Nah, thanks for the lora
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>>8135453
Whats up with the middle finger
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>>8135564
https://files.catbox.moe/fd6r9w.png
https://files.catbox.moe/a3w41v.png
https://files.catbox.moe/30x67y.png
https://files.catbox.moe/ji77m0.png
Some Photoshop -> img2img was used
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>>8135585
Quite literally the average /trash/ prompt/style but without the interracial part
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>>8135590
Can white girls even get bleached? Always thought that the racial aspect was central to the fetish.
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>>8135508
Holy, Sorry but your dataset is shit.
1k pictures - lot of duplicates and garbage sketch.
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>>8135595
>Can white girls even get bleached?
It's just vanilla at that point but you know, some anons out there need to insert their fetish somehow even if it doesn't make any sense at all
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>>8135595
>Can white girls even get bleached?
asian girls can
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>>8135596
It's actually not that bad. The lora came out really good for 1k pics but the main issue is that there are competing styles. Still at 1k AI should have understood all of them and you'd just need to prompt for it.
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>>8135578
Not much I can say in my defense, it just clicks with me on a spiritual level. The colors, the contrast, the little (although often nonsensical) details - it all comes together. It just works, as one might say.
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Anyone know why I'm getting "CUDA out of memory" when trying to make loras with Kohya_ss?

I have a RTX 4070 ti super, 16gb of vram, but I immediately run out of memory even with a batch size of 1...

The error:

torch.cuda.OutOfMemoryError: CUDA out of memory. Tried to allocate 20.00 MiB. GPU 0 has a total capacty of 15.99 GiB of which 0 bytes is free. Of the allocated memory 27.81 GiB is allocated by PyTorch, and 766.02 MiB is reserved by PyTorch but unallocated. If reserved but unallocated memory is large try setting max_split_size_mb to avoid fragmentation. See documentation for Memory Management and PYTORCH_CUDA_ALLOC_CONF


Also fuck me I hate the captchas on this site.
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I've trained SDXL for 102 epochs on a dataset of 1066 images, from which ~10 images are pure black/pure white. It still didn't learn it all.
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>>8135614
qt bocchi
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is comfyUI the best one?
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https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/121193547
Japan is playing the new eroge called director tools.
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>>8135616
Pick 200 of the best and train again.
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>Auto1111
Not automatic
>Comfy
Isn't comfy

What did they mean by that?
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>>8135622
False advertising, many such cases.
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>>8135116
>>8135186
Okay now it is fixed on reForge, thanks for the based author of perturbed attention (idk if you're here but many thanks man)

Now AutomaticCFG works as it should and Skimmed CFG is working as well

https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-reForge/pull/105

Now, Skimmed CFG is pretty nice from what I'm testing, and Automatic CFG works better as well.
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>>8135620
They already are best of the best.
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>>8135617
Just crossed my mind that you can do a bit of trolling on both localfrens ("skill issue, learn to inpaint") and NAIfrens ("who needs your paid slop when 1.5 shitmixes beats it") by pruning the metadata and pretending you're using actual AOM3.
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>>8135626
Is forge couple fixed?
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>>8135615
you can use more than 16gb of vram at batch size 1 if your other settings are fucked up
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How much faster does DiT converges over UNet anyway?
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i miss cnuy
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whens nai v5
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b-chama...
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>>8135635
it converges faster

but you require pretrained 100b model in order to achieve this
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>>8135633
was it broken? tested on dev_upstream and it seems to work
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>>8135634

Gotcha. Any settings I should look out for? I'm new to loras so it's all chinese to me.
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>>8135642
I got a lot of prompt bleed when I tested it yesterday
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>>8135640
Thanks, I've been waiting to take my misinformation pill.
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>>8135307
people can learn from this and others to make hentai ones
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>>8135645
training resolution, optimizer, network type and your lora's DIM value all influence vram. if you don't have it enabled then enable gradient checkpointing. fp8 will also reduce a huge amount of VRAM consumption.
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Post local cunnee
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>>8135631
that's a nice looking gun
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>try latent upscaler
>changes the eyes completely but it replaces it with good, coherent eyes instead
hey, this looks fun
imma play with this a little bit longer
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>>8135652
>nipples uninverted
Missed opportunity.
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>>8135654
But that's illegal
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Been checking the archive. You guys are good at making loras. Just want to check if anyone made their own jcm2 lora. The ones in Civ is pretty bad. I'm guessing they mix in old arts from earlier years.
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>>8135656
One perk of NAI is that it can do guns like no other model when it feels like it.
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>>8135659
Variety is always good
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>>8135668
I love cute tacticool girls so much it's unreal
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>>8135668
agreed
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>>8135664
cute
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>>8135668
>>8135673
1st try and that's actually not bad at all, huh
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>>8135677
Grabbable tummy
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>>8135680
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>>8134294
Flux seems good for text, but, side from that, I haven't seen any nai gens that are more impressive than NAI when it comes to anime style
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>>8135683
That's her charm point
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>check back on local generation after half a year.
>literally nothing new

I know we haven't reached perfection yet, so why no news?
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>>8135671
Same.
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>>8135693
>>literally nothing new
your flux, bro?
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>>8135693
Your NAIOMv3 bro?
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I hope Anonymous#8135695 is not being serious.
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>>8135695
What's Flux?

>>8135698
isn't NAI paid shit?
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>>8135701
>What's Flux?
New local base model that shows promise, not made by Stability
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>>8135701
>Flux
local Dall-e that can produce cat in a space suit or indians in Microsoft server room
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>>8135699
Bro got flummoxed :
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>>8135705
this. there's no point even mentioning it here.
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>>8135706
It can do realistic nipples. Kinda odd how little censoring it has
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>>8135703
>not made by Stability
*made by the only competent people of Stability
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>>8135703
So far I've barely seen people genning anime girls, which is like the only thing I'd want from it.
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>>8135709
the only example of realistic nipples anyone has posted has been from anons using a hires pass with sdxl models, and even then it's still not hentai, and all the gens look the same in the same ugly way. It's as if all the training detail and params went into making text, it's trash, simple as.
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>>8135709
i have only gens from flux here, so nipples on anime girls looked like buttons
also looks like it has basically no knowledge on anatomy
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>>8135701
It's paid, but good shit.
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>>8135714
*seen
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>>8135712
That's because the base model just came out, it needs someone to do an anime finetune. It can do basic anime natively but it fails with simple nsfw shit.
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>>8135713
Try "a mermaid by Caravaggio". That gave me nice nipples.
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>>8135715
>paying for porn
how this site has fallen
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A pretty decent gen, but the problem with using doujin artists or any sort of vibe transfer image with text is that you always get text. Cleaning all this up with inpainting would take forever...

If only there were some way, some tool, that would automate the process...
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In case you guys didn't get it, Flux is just SD3 with copyrighted+nsfw images that SAI can't use.
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>>8135719
It's not happening. If someone pulls a hentai finetune of it out of their ass, talk about it then. Until then go back to /g/, it's garbage and off topic here
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>>8135719
yea we just need someone to steal the original weights and then drop a couple hundred thousand dollars on enterprise level hardware. pony flux will be released in two weeks for sure
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>>8135713
I've heard that style improves a lot with the guidance node. Haven't tested it myself, but I think it's too early to write the model off.
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>>8135724
Oh wait, I can do it in one button now.

Thanks NAI. But don't think I haven't noticed that you're trying to charge analcoins for remove background even if the base resolution is below 1024x1024, you motherfuckers.
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>>8135728
>>8135729
Was just explaining to anon. Idc about flux until we get the finetune (if ever)
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>>8135730
>I think it's too early to write the model off.
Ok come back when you've guidanced hentai out of it, otherwise >>>/g/
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>>8135669
True but it's particularly hot on girls with massive tits and thick thighs like that other one.
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>>8135736
true
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I am finally coming around to vibe transfer. Anon mentioned earlier that putting a random bad image in negative vibe transfer increases image sharpness and quality. I've found that for artists like itou yuuji who have a 17 year history and really shitty early images, just putting one of their early images as a negative vibe and their later images as a positive vibe works much, much better than fucking around with the year tags (which just don't work well because they affect too much other stuff).

Pic related is the itou yuuji early work I used as a negative vibe transfer for this:
https://files.catbox.moe/a2wlwy.png

Positive image was https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/4778593?q=itou_yuuji+remilia_scarlet
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>can even do one of my favorite proompts from shortly after the NAIv1 leak that AOM itself shat itself on
I fvcking kneel...
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>>8135742
Also, I'm experimenting with that anon's suggestion of using a random abstract/lowres image as negative vibe to add detail and sharpness. It seems to work really well... I mean holy fuck it even has perfectly sharp artist signature at free gen res...

But anyway, to fully optimize this method we need to find the perfect anti-art. The absolute shittiest drawing, where simply telling the AI "Do the opposite of this" results in quality.

Currently, I'm using this:
https://files.catbox.moe/5wu33v.webp

But the question must be asked, is there any shittier art imaginable that could be used instead? /hdg/ I need your crappiest pictures to use as anti-examples for the AI's vibe.
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>>8135616
Make sure you're actually using zero terminal SNR, otherwise it won't matter how many pure black or white images you give it.
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>>8135756
I do use it. I trained a test model just with those pure black/white images and it can reproduce them faithfully.
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>>8135747
https://files.catbox.moe/b1rl6r.png
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>>8134294
Give up on schnell. It's 99% impossible to finetune because it is step distilled. It would be paper worthy if you managed to do so. Dev can be finetuned and only person I know who will train it is the WD team
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>>8135611
I was on a middle of a game and got horny again, not cool
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>>8135753
Use AOM slop with broken hands and see if it gives you good hands.
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>>8135780
Yeah I'm trying to find a good example. It's funny, there's soooo many, but ofc I never saved any and I want the worst example.

Say, did anyone ever save that one 1.5slop gen that was posted at the start of every thread for like 6 months? The one with the quadrapussy almost every time?

The AI seems to now be overstuffing details in, random text, random objects... might need to tone it down a tad.
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>>8135763
Based
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>>8135784
Adding an overdetailed 3dslop civitai horror image as a negative seems to solve the detail stuffing issue.

I think I can just limit my search for shit images to civitai. There surely can't be shittier, right?
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bros what are good settings for the forge-integrated cfg-fix?
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>>8135793
if reforge you can use Skimmed/Automatic CFG, or DynamicThresholding

if og forge (DynamicThresholding) or using that on reforge, you can get guided from https://github.com/mcmonkeyprojects/sd-dynamic-thresholding
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>>8135797
>reforge
huh I should try that, thanks bwo
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Does training a lora on autism vs base pony make a noticable difference?
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>>8135812
there should be a difference but not really a beneficial one
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>>8135819
What do you mean by that
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>>8135826
nice
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>>8135770
>and only person I know who will train it is the WD team
>WD team
>literally a single hrt brain damaged troon who spends more time calling people eggs and coming up with excuses for why he can't even train sdxl
yeah, don't see it happening even with the weights and resources available to him lmao, never seen such a useless "person"
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>Have sex on public bus
>Be surprised you're being watched
Promp-pachinko produces some funny gens sometimes.
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>>8135832
And the autistic furry won't train it because he has a hate boner for transformers.
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>>8135829
a lora trained on autism will look different because it's pony with them built in but that doesn't mean that it will look better or worse, but those loras will likely perform worse on non autism models
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>>8135812
my experience on training on merges is that lora is always shit to the point of unusable
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>>8135834
Clearly she didnt realize her invisibility spell wore off

Stupid 5000 year old witch brat
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Man, I never check my loras with base pony but I recently realized that even though they work great on autism and other mixes, they are absolute garbage on base (which they were trained on). How the fuck does that even work?
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>>8135866
they probably have DPO and stuff like that built in
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>>8135868
Why would that make the lora work on them and not base pony, though?
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>>8135866
Are you using all the score tags + source anime and then the source tags in negs?
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>>8135866
Have you checked the metadata of those loras? How many images have they been trained on, what tags have been used, and according to tags, have all images been tagged? etc. etc.

A good style lora has 100 or more images, all tagged accordingly. Some, and probably most popular civitai loras aren't done this way.
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>>8135874
I try both with and without them for testing. On base pony the lora looks a bit nonsensical, but not really in the same way overbaking does (which would've been my first suspicion), more like it forgets what the base concept of a girl is (ie. randomly has 2 heads, or multiple bodies stuck together with a prompt like '1girl, solo'). Changing the lora weight also doesn't mitigate this effect. Where as if I do autism, autism confetti mix, midkema, epona mix, mocase mix, it is totally normal and works as intended. It's really bizarre, could it have something to do with using the lion scheduler for baking? I mean, even if it does, I used base pony as my training base, why would it suddenly work on mixes?
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>make a typo in dynamic prompts
>accidentally load like 60 style loras
>it doesnt even output bad results
the fuck
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>>8135878
>more like it forgets what the base concept of a girl is
Oh no I completely understand what you mean. I had the same question a couple days ago. It's very strange. I just figured the problem I had was because I forgot to use score tags because I mistakenly thought I was prompting on autism when base pony was selected. Can't double check now because I'm baking but yeah I was getting stretched out torsos and quad boobs when the lora would work normally on autism.
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>>8135870
because you're effectively running your own lora on top of several others that are doing things like influencing the style or composition or anatomy to a stronger extent than base pony
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>>8135877
Yes, sorry for the confusion, I'm talking about the loras I've trained myself, which are anywhere from 50~-1000~ images in dataset, content and tagging all reviewed by myself after autotagging, cropping, cleaning, so on. I don't really use other people's loras anymore. I just don't usually use base pony myself, so I never noticed before lol.

I'm baking a new one right now with some tweaked settings to see if I can figure out what's causing this. Could it be because I change the block weights?
>>8135882
Man that's so weird, good to know I'm not the only one at least. I'm guessing you don't also use the lion scheduler since I think its a bit uncommon here, but do you change blockweights at all in your settings? Wondering if its something like that..
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>>8135886
Nope I used adamw for that lora and no changes to blockweights. Looking through my pics and it's at least 2 different loras that don't work on base pony but work on autism. I trained a character lora using prodigy with koikatsu pics and the KK style bleed is horrendous on base pony but almost nonexistent on autism.
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>>8135884
I don't know if I'm really satisfied with that answer, though I obviously can't refute it. I'm not new to lora baking, so it seems kind of hard to believe I'd magically have fucked up my datasets so hard I need several other loras baked in to 'fix' the basic anatomy of my one, lol?
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>>8135889
i'd guess that it's your LRs, not your datasets. i was having the same thing happening until I dropped my TE LR by a factor of 10 and my UNET by around 10%. i'd try doing a series of quick bakes to see what the break even point for your LRs are
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>>8135890
actually looking at it again, for styles i reduced the UNET LR by something like 60%, not 10
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>>8135889
>fucked up my datasets so hard I need several other loras baked in to 'fix' the basic anatomy of my one
sorry, but that's exactly what happened. a properly trained lora shouldn't have problems working on base pony (even without score tags)
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>>8135893
And you think this is related to LR? What about on optimizers where you can't set the LR?
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>>8135894
i'm not the person who's saying that's an LR problem. i'd guess that it's more likely to be a dataset and captioning problem since that tends to be the issue with 95% of loras
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>>8135896
Hmm but would that be why it works on mixes but not on base? The whole thing is just bizarre.
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>>8135888
Hmm, that definitely leaves me at a dead end. I can understand how the mixes have stronger base styles built in, but it still doesn't make sense to me why it completely 'forgets' base anatomy and makes nonsense gens like that..
>>8135890
Yeah, I'll try that for sure, thank you. Going to queue up a bunch of setting tweaks and see if I can figure out the culprit. It'd at least make sense if it was overdone, since the mixes would 'dampen' the lora, but weird the base pony results don't look like what I'd expect from it/it isn't mitigated by lowering weights. I do wonder if the reason everyone thinks the rentry pony loras are undercooked is because they were made specifically for base pony and they're being used on autism/mixes, though.. could very well be a case of higher LR or cook times being optimal for mix use and not for base.
>>8135893
>>8135896
I tested one just now I had made with bluvoll's dishwasher dataset and had the same issue, so unless his dataset is also shit I really think its something more than that? If you want to give me a dataset you know is good, I can bake/test it next?
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>>8135897
you literally gave the reason in one of your previous posts. autism mixes loras into base pony that help with anatomy and general stability
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>>8135900
nta but that's not how it works, have you ever even made a lora?
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>>8135900
>you literally gave the reason in one of your previous posts.
Ntayrt but I'm the original question asker, pretty sure you're confusing his posts and mine. Honestly, give us one of your superior datasets so we can test it, only real way to find out.
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>>8135898
>I do wonder if the reason everyone thinks the rentry pony loras are undercooked is because they were made specifically for base pony and they're being used on autism/mixes, though.. could very well be a case of higher LR or cook times being optimal for mix use and not for base.
i am pretty sure the reason why a lot of style loras are undercooked is because pony is fucked and tokens which shouldn't influence the style at all wind up having one imprinted onto them. a style LORA is basically always competing against other styles inadvertently being activated in the prompt.
reducing the LRs of my LORAs until they no longer fried base pony didn't have any effect on their appearance in autism, but the anatomy was actually a bit better iirc
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>>8135893
i want to see a properly trained lora, do you have an example, ideally with the dataset as well
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it really does NOT want to learn ibuki satsuki :(
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>skimmed cfg / automatic cfg
reForge anon please take a break, I swear there's like 3 big updates a day now.

>>8135626
Give me a breakdown on wtf this shit is please.
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>>8135905
>style lora competing against other random shit
Pretty much, in general the random god knows what tokens activating and shit having random weights you don't expect just fucks with it, and other anon's mentioning tons of times before that Pony can't into soft styles at all for artist loras so it just raped by base pony style and whatever modifiers you have.
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>>8135910
Looks way better than nai
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>>8135921
>I swear there's like 3 big updates a day now
And it's all useless snake oil garbage that just clutters the UI and has to be disabled.
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>>8135925
does nai know ibuki satsuki? I'm going to try adding some more images to my dataset and some repeats on the bake.. fingers crossed
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>>8135916
A cat is fine too
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>>8135932
Nope it doesn't know it well. I just like your lineart
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>>8135921
Yeah I slowed a bit down today, I will keep trying to add SD3 then Flux on the week but no promises. The branch with the new OG forge backend will probably support tho (and will probably port extensions there)

Honestly I mostly port requests that anons do from extensions, so I think the repos itself can explain it better

https://github.com/Extraltodeus/ComfyUI-AutomaticCFG

https://github.com/Extraltodeus/Skimmed_CFG

By his description it says that Skimmed CFG should be superior to AutomaticCFG
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>>8135935
shame, could've stolen some images if it did it well to fill in dataset gaps. thanks though anon, hopefully I can improve it more
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>>8135788
>>8135872
these are really, really nice
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how would one begin tagging this outfit for training? I feel like i'm overestimating the model's ability.
white sports bra, elbow sleeves, and then what?
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>>8135945
Of course, its Nai
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>>8135945
Of course, its Local
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>>8135948
>>8135951
idiots
now kiss
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What's that webui extension which prevents you from sometimes getting those super fucked up gens again?
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>>8135948
>>8135951
First one is local, second is nai. It's a tie, bros.
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>>8135934
cat
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>>8135955
no norm emphasis on settings
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>>8135957
Boobborgar
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>>8135947
sports bra, armbands, white bike shorts
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>>8135947
white crop top, elbow pads, highleg panties, white bike shorts, see-through, green footwear, green scrunchie.
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>>8135940
Hard to say I'm messing with both but it's nto like it's easy to compare with besides just double generating same seed and seeing minor differences. Could be snake oil but I appreciate your efforts anon.
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>>8135957
kek
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>>8135947
thats not elbow sleeves thats arm warmer or armband, you can try short leggings for the bottom, also highleg panties
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Do I have too many images? how do I balance this?
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>>8135962
>>8135965
>>8135969
thx for the suggestions, don't I need to use yellow somewhere to get the yellow colors?
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>>8135972
you may or may not
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>>8135972
yellow colors come naturally with pony
joke aside you dont really need to specify colors when tagging outfit
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>>8135957
give me the prompt to specifically your miqo
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>lion
>scheduler
what
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>nochekaiser posts naruto cunnies lora
forgive me lord, i might have to download his loras...
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>>8136006
Sure

lips, (black lips:1.2),(1girl:1.3), black choker,miqo'te, cat ears, cat tail,huge breasts, long hair, (low ponytail:1.3), nipples,thick thighs, (hair over eyes), blonde hair, (black lips),pale skin

This is what I have been using to prompt her, some stuff seems sorta redundant but its worked the best for me.
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I understand that quality control can be a slippery slope but god damn is shit like this really worth the 200+ mb of storage space on CivitAI's servers? Or some other retard that uploads a 200 mb lora called "test".
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>>8136020
thanks, will put that in negative
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I made babby's first Lora.

Noss by Rairatoo!

It's a little janky but it got the style. Pretty pleased for my first go at it.
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>>8136022
thats a lot of his house, be respectfull he just want to gen cute girl playing in the garden
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>>8136022
those are cp loras
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>>8136026
based
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>>8136026
incredibly based
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>try to gen barbell piercings
>get goth gymfu instead

acceptable tradeoff
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>>8136026
>he still doesn't work how the "negative prompt" works
oh no no shizo prompter bro
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>use 4th tail lyco extract
>put bold lines in negs
>use top image from civitai (typical disgusting ponyslop) on style components at -1 strength
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>>8136059
click on the replace preview button
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>>8136059
click on the wrench and replace preview after generating an image
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>>8136059
image with the exact same name as LoRA in the same folder as LoRA becomes the preview, same for txt files, they become descriptions
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been in a coma ;) ;) ;) :> for a few months ^_^ :^)
anything new for local? lol :P XD
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>>8136076
why do you want to kill this thread so much
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>>8136077
i only want to kill whoever keeps making that retarded post
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>>8135418
>Come and break my limit, anon.
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>>8136076
kek
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>>8136091
bros...
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>>8136091
what about aerith cunny ver?
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>>8136108
Fine, but you can't break her limit. Just accept her flowers.
https://files.catbox.moe/7bicne.png
I derped.
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>>8136108
Lmao, getting aerith poster banned
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I gathered a dataset for deadnoodles, can any kind anon bake a style lora for it? for pony of course
>https://mega.nz/folder/SrIkkCZI#hX2JZvls4o5iAP8Jw7Gwpg
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>>8136061
>>8136062
Thanks. I found an extension called CivitAI helper that imports a lot of the pictures but not all of them unfortunately
>>8136063
This is good to know, thanks. will do this for the loras that didn't properly import the preview image.
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>>8136119
>>8136121
I deleted that post myself. I had a brain fart.
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>>8135464
Well anon, I've dropped the one lora I made. Regardless, someone posts some megas please.

Btw is it possible to train on forge?
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>>8135525
>>8135527
>>8135521
>>8135510
>>8135506
>>8135499
Howcome the base64 guy never made an SDXL checkpoint anyway? He was a true hero as far as I'm concerned. So versatile with loras too.
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tagging for a lora, black-framed eyewear or simply glasses tag?
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>>8136156
just "glasses" if its part of a default costume the character always wears.
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>>8136143
I want to ruin her
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>>8136118
My limit is the one broken
>>8136121
>>8136119
Sacrifices are necessary for the greater cause
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>>8136157
okay thanks anon that's the case
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the thing most useful to me for making datasets was
tightvnc
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Wtf happened to Forge?
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>>8136158

>>8136173
They won't update it any longer
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>>8136173
there's a similar new project named Reforge
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Is hires fix fucked? I thought it was the loras that I was using but everything came out giga fried no matter the denoise or upscaler used
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>>8136181
forgor to say this is on reforge and latest commit
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>>8136175
>They won't update it any longer
https://github.com/lllyasviel/stable-diffusion-webui-forge/commits/main/
>>8136173
illya is removing all comfy code from it
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>>8136204
remind me to never update my forge
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Somebody help bless me. What is this checkpoint Nakatori is using? I'm trying to recreate this I can't afford to sub to their patreon
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>>8136222
Looks like NAI3. Your still shilling for a subscription if you want to use it. So just be a cuck and dub to his patreon.
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>>8136142
>Btw is it possible to train on forge?
No people train with OneTrainer, Easy Scripts or the Bmaltis GUI.
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>>8136014
optimizer. even the low param ai is smarter than you if you couldn't infer what was meant
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>>8136238
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>>8136238
>>8136240
can you compare against these:
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/88thnwul1ijib/hou
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>>8136239
He's memeing just ignore him.
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>>8136241
What's the difference between those two files? Also give me a prompt. The lora I made seems to work particularly well since I'm prompting the features of one of the elf girls in the dataset but I think it will fall apart with a regular 1girl.
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>>8136245
different training approaches. one is a meme, they're both meme settings but both appear to replicate houtengeki's style at low sizes.
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>>8136244
I've been here longer than you though.
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>>8136222
>NAI groid grifter with same fucking style #46573
Kill yourself.
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>>8136222
This artstyle used by one million pajeet is truly a mystery considering how many braindead mouth breathing retard keep asking how to replicate it, so mysterious...
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OHHH IM GONNA... IM GONNA NOOOOOTIIICEEEE
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>>8136246
Can you post your process for the small one?
https://files.catbox.moe/p5le0l.jpg
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>>8136247
doesn't make you welcome
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>>8136282
Then you better fuck off to another board if you can't learn to use 4chanx.
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>>8136225
I like this, how are you getting it dark? Are you using the noise offset thing?
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>>8135698
>>8135694
>>8135668
>>8135631
>>8135617
>>8135614
HOT
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2 more weeks?
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>>8136285
start using a specific filename or trip I can filter then, thanks
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>>8136298
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>>8136299
>he doesn't know
Wasted dubs.
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>>8136300
Last test image. E9 is up on cap app so anyone can test it anyway.
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>>8136301
you still aren't welcome
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>>8136298
>>8136300
>>8136304
I was wondering why someone was genning on 1.5 again but now I understand
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>>8136304
That is cascade? Seems like it now achieved ArtiWaifu level. I even unironically thought it was NAIv3 until I opened up the image and saw the details, that's very promising. So far I think this model will need up to e12, but still very good instead of some stupid number like e22. The more I see about 1b, the more I start to think 3.6b will be on another whole level.
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>>8136304
>finger animorphing into a clit
lold
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>>8136304
>>8136299
>>8136298
/aco/
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>>8136298
>>8136300
>>8136304
Whatever lora you're using is extremely fried on the hands/feet, try a lower weight or if it's your own an earlier epoch. Even without inpaint/adetailer they shouldn't be that mangled.
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>>8136311
I still feel like I could do better on EF+HLL even since some of the tags keep freaking out. having to neg scott pilgrim just to stop it from going ramona flowers on me.
3.6b will probably be decent.
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>>8136298
this is Cascade? on one hand, if that's how it gens now it still needs way more time than 2 weeks in the oven. on the other, might as well call it quits and pray 3.6B ends up capable.
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>>8136319
it's taking them so long vs their original timeline promises I don't even care anymore desu
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>>8136319
Yeah. Jordach is training up to E11 IIRC but I'm not sure 2 more epochs is enough. I'm sure someone can do better with different settings, styles, upscale, and inpaint but it feels like pulling teeth currently.
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>>8136324
Yeah, they should've blown through donations to speed it up like they'd promised. Then needing more donations to continue hyperspeed training would probably get people actually interested in donating more. Guess they don't really care about what people want as long as they have their single discord whale throwing his monthly excess at them.
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>>8136317
>I still feel like I could do better on EF+HLL even since some of the tags keep freaking out.
I mean... Yeah? Isn't that obvious? You're comparing a still-baking model vs a mix of a fully trained furry model that is also using a very high dim LoRA on top. You can obviously do better with any fully trained model... This is just still cooking...
>having to neg scott pilgrim just to stop it from going ramona flowers on me.
3.6b will probably be decent.
At least the negs works. This model may be the return of schizo negs that now actually works since there's a lot more knowledge of things overall compared to pony.
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>>8136328
>I'm sure someone can do better with different settings, styles, upscale, and inpaint
honestly if you end up needing to wrangle it that hard to gacha something acceptable it won't be worth using anyway.
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>>8136330
they said the vendor of cheap ada6k killed himself and also it was a garbage vendor since it had problems which caused the model to stop baking mid-epoch 2 times now
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>>8136330
Honestly I don't think throwing all the money they currently have at it just to get to where we are today 1 month ago would be very wise either.

>>8136332
I didn't expect it to beat fully trained models while baking I just feel irritated with how much wrangling it needs and still winds up ignoring prompts. Basically I'm just saying what everyone has been saying which is it will probably be best to wait for 3.6B or R2.

>>8136334
Yeah that's my point for the most part.
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>>8135742
interesting technique. This is what I got with same prompt/seed with varying levels of negative reference strength of sonichu
https://files.catbox.moe/pgc5gs.png
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>>8136332
>You're comparing a still-baking model
Nta but if it's going to be "done" in a couple more epochs it's not exactly going to be leaps and bounds better at fully baked, either. I'm kind of iffy about 3.6b being all that great, but I'll let it bake first. Everyone references the proto but the proto had such a small dataset that of course it learned the few things it was taught well? I have a very strong feeling that even if 3.6b has potential, they won't end up training it for enough epoch to reach it. They really seem like they've never actually used or tried sdxl before so all their perspective of if the model is good or not is in comparison to 1.5, making it still shitty for the expectations anyone whose used ponymixes will have (anyone here).
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>all that talk about bs
So how big are 1.5 and XL (including NAIv3 and Pony), anyway?
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>>8136335
So is there only one vendor? Did they not have any kind of back up or option in place when they started raking in donations with the promise of speed?
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What I'm most amazed about is that how do these models contain so much data inside 6-7 GB
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>>8136338
Indeed, sonichu is a powerful artistic tool. Almost too powerful.
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>>8136348
In the simplest terms in makes it tiny to store the data, then takes those tiny bits and enlarges them into bigger images = the model itself is very compact information
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>>8136348
they store math, not images
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>>8136350
>>8136352
Yeah I understand it's not really images themselves but it's still mindblowing for me
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>>8136353
its really not, this capability has been around for a while but not in any usable capacity because of the practical challenges it has. just wait til you learn how large datasets are at enterprise level, not for AI just for general shit
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>>8136267
related, only jank ahead.
just a series of resizes and manual edits to the original training run. unfortunately I didn't save the intermediate operations so some divination (or manual comparison via lora editing) required.
original run (with training run metadata), intermediates, result:
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/qveo5b89uclo5/gggggg
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>>8136362
What's the point of slicing and resizing multiple times?
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>>8136293
https://civitai.com/models/623662/low-light-for-pony-variant
I can pretty much replicate that lora with variety now, I'll update it at some point.
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>>8136366
this was done entirely ad-hoc for a meme, it just happened to work out
I do not claim to have a rigorous process.
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>>8136267
I think you ran nothing for "hahaha" in the comparison here, second column matches no lora?
not sure it matters though, it should mostly match the small result re: quality.
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>>8136311
>Seems like it now achieved ArtiWaifu level
It knows Ubel?
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>>8136370
Explain the reasoning regardless.
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>>8136376
>"hmmm let's resize it to see if it retains everything"
>cut some blocks, "yep it still works, hey that's actually maybe better"
>"hmmm let's resize it"
repeat.
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>>8136374
He meant it sucks. Being at artiwaifu level is a euphemism for sucking donkey dick
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>>8136374
diy
but judging by the tag list, yeah definitely
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I've been baking on dual 4090s for so long that even meanoldtree thinks that my mind is gone
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>>8136380
I think that's still quite a high bar too achieve for local.
>>8136382
Not really reassuring.
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>>8136374
>It knows Ubel?
Not on the csv from what I can tell but you can always test it since you don't need to download.
https://anti-mass.spectrometer.lol/
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b- shama ??
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>>8136391
jordach sent her away. she's back in /fit/ now
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>>8136390
Not gonna show you my IP sorry.
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>>8136392
How can we summon her
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how would I go about having the ai generate me a settei/character head sheet of a certain artists style? so i can learn how to draw it
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>>8136399
try something like this
https://civitai.com/models/507369/expression-anime-character-sheet-pony-diffusion
https://civitai.com/models/368139/character-sheet
though personally I'd just generate headshots in different expressions and stitch them together in photoshop
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anyone tested this yet?
https://github.com/ThereforeGames/blora_for_kohya
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>>8136416
Yes it's snake oil and you don't even need their special bullshit for it. Just train/ignore specific blocks.
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>>8136417
just ignore bad blocks and train good blocks, duh
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>>8136020
cat
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>>8136420
boxu? nice gen
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>>8136420
thank you for posting her in actual fucking style
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>>8136416
yeah their config is really convenient and is a sensible starting point for writing your own scripts.
i just trained one and it's not just separating 6 different artstyles from only 5 example images each, it's also fully compatible with basically every lora i've ever trained as a style mixing / overriding tool.
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>>8136421
https://files.catbox.moe/0j1w8v.png
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>>8136419
Well, yeah. Is that so difficult to figure out on your own?
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>>8136425
thanks
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>>8135300
oc, add pussy for u
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>>8136432
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I fucking love brown girls
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Sam
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>>8136439
He didn't say "white girls"
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Why would someone refer to themselves in third person...
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>racist shit again
Skip
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so what do we do now ponybrothers
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#CHOCO4LYFE
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>>8136437
same
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I LOVE FUCKING BROWN GIRLS
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>>8136425
you are my favorite anon in this general
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>>8136455
mine is shutenanon
i miss him
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>>8136456
he's off with his wife anon do not fret
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i miss i miss i miss poster
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I can't help but think anyone obsessing over avatarfags is either the avatarfag themselves or someone just trying to falseflag to get other anons to hate them like what happens with catfag. People don't genuinely obsess over other random anons on the internet...right?
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I miss luckychad poster
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>>8136461
Where do you think you are?
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solid black = black
solid white = white
solid grey = grey
solid cyan = cyan
solid magenta = magenta
solid yellow = yellow
solid red = red
solid green = green
solid blue = blue
solid = ?
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>>8136466
My dick when I see brown women.
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>>8136467
wrong
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>>8136461
My love for B-chan is genuine
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>>8136204
Illya is pumping out those updates, new forge will be glorious. ReForged guy is living on borrowed time.
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Pumping Illya
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Pumping to Illya...
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illya bros...
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>>8136483
looks 10% like her
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>finally figure out the process to train the perfect lora
>find out my training data is shit, especially the tagging
Bros I don't want to fix and manually tag almost 100 images. What's the most reliable way to auto-tag for SDXL? That includes natural language captioning combined with tags (even for pony and other booru-tagged finetunes this is still preferred).
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>>8136488
and the process will stay a mystery...
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>>8136489
I will reveal my secrets after I solve the current dilemma.
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>>8136490
You will always need to correct an auto tagger either ways
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>>8136491
not if you are creative about it.
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No seriously, this works WAY better than it has any right to.
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>>8136500
what does?
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>>8136502
See
>>8135463
>>8135474
>>8135566
tl;dr: bona-fide AOMsloppa on NAIv3
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>>8136507
>no vacuum navel
not my aomslop
but yeah looks similar
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since this information is seemingly no where in the internet im just going to say it here that a good starting point for fine tuning (not lora , full on fine tune ) a sdxl model im finding
is a learning rate of 5e-5 with nominal batch size ( batch size * gradient accumulation steps ) of 64
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what's anon's general guide to controlnet strength and time? picrel is xinsir openpose at 0.7 str, 0.4 time, so far best balance between pose consistency, lighting, detail and background that ive had

might try the union model next
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and the pose png
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>>8136519
From what I have tried openpose is the best one, not only because it doesnt keep the noise of the base picture but also because you can correct the pose on your own
Hvent tried xinsir tho
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>>8136524
>>8136519
Never mind, Im dumb I did try it but it kept eating my ram and I had to reboot my webui everytime
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why is grey skin so damn hard to prompt. i weight it like crazy and sometimes half the body is grey but then everything else just comes out normal. havent had these issues with red skin, blue skin, purple skin, green skin, etc. but grey skin? for whatever reason its impossible
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>>8136528
lora issue
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>>8136511
>( batch size * gradient accumulation steps ) of 64
bro that's a little too much for a 24gb gpu unless maybe fp8 with adafactor + no te
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from a bit of A/B i think the best option in this case is to find the least amount of power and time you can get away with while preserving the essence of the pose
same seed/config 0.5 power 0.15 time
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resubbing to nai today
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>>8136539
I usually do 0.6 and 0.2 at first and change things from here depending on how well it work so not too far from you
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>>8136540
y tho?
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>try making lora
>it's alright but could be better
>not great
>not great
>meh
>1st one was better
>let me try to add more quality pictures
>eh, not great
>...

I have fallen into lora making hell. Do not become like me, you do not need perfection.
I shall now go back to pushing the boulder up the cliff.
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>>8136543
going on a trip with an ultrabook
and to be fair nai fits my taste in genning more, but couldnt justify subbing while i had a good pc available.
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>>8136540
based and naipilled
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Cunny rape
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>>8136538
Grad accum. doesn't cost VRAM, only time. You can do batch size 1, GA 64 and it would be identical to having batch size 64 (but would take 64x longer per step).
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I dont know if this has been discussed but since updating reforge recently Adetailer has been fucking up super bad for me lately, targeting wrong body parts and when it does target the face it does some weird shit and doesn't work at all.
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>>8136561
>he pulled
Never change a running system. Especially not for some untested gimmick feature.
reForge is going the wrong direction with all this nonsense.
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>>8136562
I trust in Illya, he will save WebUI again.
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>>8136560
>(but would take 64x longer per step)
It would take longer, since you don't count the performance cost of accumulation overhead. Using such high batch sizes is unreasonable for a full finetune on a 3090-tier GPUs either way.
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How to ignore such metadata when downloading with grabber?
>absurdres commentary english_commentary highres mixed-language_commentary
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>>8136545
you won't improve things much by giving your lora X more images with same tagging if it can reliably gen your stuff already, but revising tags and images might help introducing new concepts into your lora less painfully
>>8136577
just delete all redundant tags in taggui
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>>8136577
>%general:spaces,unsafe,excludenamespace=metadata,separator=^, %
Alright, seems to be working
>>8136582
No.
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Anyone knows how to do conditional wildcards? I've been trying to use the retarded jinja2 garbage from dynamic prompts, but it doesn't seem like I can just keep the rest of my prompt the same and just add a "if bla bla do y" in one place.
For example, I only want to add "bathing" tag in case the wildcard __place__ is "bathroom", "shower" or "lake".
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>the only way to get decent backgrounds on XL is to emulate 1.5
XLsissies our response?!!?!!?!??!
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for LORAS do you guys caption with BLIP, or is deepbooru better? Or does it matter?
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so dead :(
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>>8136623
use WD14
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>>8136620
skill issue
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anyone used https://huggingface.co/MiaoshouAI/Florence-2-base-PromptGen for lora tagging?
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1.5 backgrounds, come home white man. Reject XL embrace 1.5
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AOM4 when?
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1.5 backgrounds.... home, least it was before XL fucked everythang up.
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>>8136643
just merge pony realism with autismmix
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desu pony's issues with backgrounds are really weird, it's like every landscape related token it was ever trained with was in the caption for an impressionist painting. i assume that's a result of shitty booru captioning
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aren't SD1.5 backgrounds only possible because base was trained off fuckton of images compared to base SDXL?
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>>8136659
most pony backgrounds have some sort of awful deviantart aco feel to them. not even shitposting here, this is one the main gripes with pony models for me.
yours doesn't look bad though if a bit desaturated
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>>8136663
xl had some fuckups with training at highres I think
remember they introduced refiner shit exactly because sdxl pics were low-detail and blurry
maybe this issue carried over to the finetunes
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>>8136665
that's using a different model and merges
here's a more clear example of what i mean:
https://files.catbox.moe/fdqojl.png
https://files.catbox.moe/jhqbv4.png
this is using a background lora on autism vs a realism finetune
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>>8136645
uhhh sir where are my vae artifacts
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>>8136349
UUoohh... is this character actually allowed here?
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>>8136673
some will say this is more of a /d/ thing but I like it. Is that the mechanical spine lora?
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>>8136673
>>8136678
Both of your images are /e/ at best
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https://files.catbox.moe/gmpave.png
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>>8136689
based
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>>8136311
> That is cascade? Seems like it now achieved ArtiWaifu level.
Not just cascade, but 1b model. Did it achieve SDXL model level? That's impressive. Sure, 3.6b model has potential to beat PonyXL.
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>>8136528
bro just use nai?
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>>8136707
i dont WANT TO!
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>>8136698
Let's not kid ourselves, the only thing that'll beat pony, is pony.
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>>8136710
WDV is already better than pony
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well the dildo x-ray project was a failure. Was trying to get the dildo to poke through the androids innards, but the 'x-ray' tag insists on making dicks or completely disjointing from the color of the dildo into a flesh color for the transparent portion.
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holy shit why is it always loli artists who care about anatomy
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>>8136698
it's not on 1.5 model level yet desu
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>>8136718
cunnychads...
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>>8136705
>>8136713
https://files.catbox.moe/9pxqnw.jpg
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>>8136713
Interesting concept
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>>8136725
anon they're using NAI
they don't have controlnet lmao
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fengondongh... tianling...
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>>8136710
NAIV4 ...
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Dark elves?
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>>8136728
How did you know...
https://files.catbox.moe/zk9c9a.png
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>>8136736
he didn't say it's good
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How long until we get a pony replacement? 6 months? or more?
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>>8136655
sag box?
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>>8136741
probably early 2025
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nothing like revisiting an old dataset and finding that months of testing and iterating on training parameters and hours and hours of dataset tweaks and upgrades now produce objectively inferior results
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>>8136753
everyone is at the mercy of the vae either way
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>>8136712
Speaking of WDV you might be interested in this to get better details in Pony by using WDV as a noise generator lora at low strength https://rentry.org/noiseinjection
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>>8136763
these were specifically tests with training a lora using only koikatsu screenshots so the vae shouldn't be much of a factor
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Anyone know any good ahegao loras? There's some on civitai but nothing that produces great stuff. aoin hatsu lora produces great red faces and sweat, but so far haven't found anything better than just combining tags like rolling eyes, blush, open mouth, etc. Is it worth training my own lora for this? Might be a fun project
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>>8136769
Why the hell would you need a lora for THAT? just prompt it bruh
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>>8136772
More consistent results and better effect hopefully, it's only less than 50% of the time I get an effect I like that has everything in an intense look
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tourist here. Is it possible to color monochrome pics with NAI yet?
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>>8136782
they added colorize thing just recently but it's shit, no better than cnet lineart
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>>8136782
Yes! This was a recent update as a part of the newly released Director Tools.

https://docs.novelai.net/image/directortools.html
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I wish anime models could implement the regular SD thing where you generate an image then tell the AI what to change from the image you just generated

Would make life so much easier for someone like me that loves making CG sets instead of just reusing the seed and praying it doesnt fuck up
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>>8136787
wow everything in that link is kind of spectacular. money well spent.
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>>8136788
Bro? your inpaint?
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>>8136788
Download Fooocus UI and use the input image option, then set it to Vary (subtle), it's very good for what you're describing
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>>8136743
with pleasure

https://files.catbox.moe/9hqrhb.png
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>>8136792
inpaint takes WAY too much effort for what I want to do

>>8136793
I'll check that out then
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>>8136791
Absolutely, it's an insane value at an already great price of 25 dollars a month.
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>>8136797
Inpaint is also very easy to do in Fooocus. There's a tab for it where you just click and paint around the parts of the image you want to replace
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>>8136795
ty
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>>8136655
nice elf
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Textsisters...
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>>8136807
>4 days per thread
Lol
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>>8136736
ok but can nai make an image of a anime girl masturbating while enduring 9 g's of g-force in a rly fast centrifuge used for astronaut training?

didn't think so. checkmate naikeks
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>>8136812
can you make her squirt but it's just shooting upwards and hitting her right in the face
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>>8136804
you too
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>>8136822
silly elves using water walking during a bath
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>>8136814
quick edit just for you
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>>8136695
>get 3day for Ankha "furry" in under a minute
>literal gorepile stays up for hours
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>>8136826
now we're fucking talking, hell yeah
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>>8136528
it's gray in natural language
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>>8136827
you're glossing over the fact that you also were posting minigirl though
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>>8136827
his other posts got jannied dont worry
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>>8136507
Animagine also does the AI-Generated prompt well. Pony has only learned the bad things, double ring nipples and shiny skin.
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>>8136126
A-anyone? I could also trim the dataset if needed
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>>8136812
its so over naibros
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>>8136827
There are threads in /b/ for that kind of stuff.
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>>8136371
Yeah I figured that too but idk. I double checked and that's the correct lora. They're both right next to each other in the list. I used smea dy and 3d in negs if that matters. So those two loras have the same settings?
https://files.catbox.moe/p0691k.png
https://files.catbox.moe/nqor75.png
>>8136362
I'll check these new ones in a bit. So this was done with the same technique as the low light lora? You just cut out all the useless blocks and then resized?
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>>8136837
You left the most tedious time consuming part of actually tagging the images to the baker. No one will want to tag your 653 images, but will happily download a finished tagged set and train.
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>>8136837
Now caption it and throw it into CivitAi's blender for 50 cents.
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>>8136847
>You left the most tedious time consuming part of actually tagging the images to the baker
I remember sharing the dataset untagged for a style lora was fine, but yeah I could look into tagging the whole thing
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>>8136830
Yeah, just wanted to complain. Childish, I know. I'm sorry.
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to the homies that post their stuff on pixiv and other sites, how often do you post?

Trying to not burn myself out since I'm just doing this for fun
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>>8136850
curate your dataset, autotag it and manually correct every single tag
you only did the least time-consuming part of the whole process
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>>8136461
Catfag deserves it for not posting prompts though. Unlike /ourgirl/ b-chama.
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>>8136837
Trim it to 170-250 images and get rid of all the variant pictures and most of the speech bubble / text shit would be my minimum requirements.
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>>8136860
>>8136868
Alright, I'll post it again when I'm done
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>>8136562
Crash it.
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>>8136858
Why is there so much spite in this general? That anon is a baiting consolewar shitposter so he deserves it but still.
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>>8136873
stagnation causes boredom which leads to people turning to shitposting
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>>8136775
Use ahegao tag and increases the weight too.
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>>8136837
I can give it a try. You don't have to tag it though it's just that I would have to trim the dataset down to 100-300 pics manually and I was about to break for lunch.
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>>8136844
Furry just goes on /trash/, they have generals there.
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>>8136873

>asks why people are mean
>immediately outs himself as a petty bitch next sentance
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Interesting... The colors in the dataset are as follows: >>8136466 yet it was able to generalize the new vpred knowledge to produce colors it has never seen before. Picrel: magenta, orange, brown, pink
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can a lora baker post their preset? bought a new gpu and wanna try cooking some styles and concepts
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>>8136885
Yes, being annoyed that anons are purposefully starting fights unnecessarily in a hentai general is me being a bitch. Real quality post here anon. Shouldn't you be nose deep in another 1000 inpaint session?
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>>8136889
>purposefully starting fights

are these fights currently happening? in your head maybe?
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>>8136837
mostly what this anon said
>>8136868
except I'd personally say to try and distill the very specific style down to 32-70~ images. More is better but if the artist has variation and you're really looking for a very SPECIFIC part of it it's better to be as cohesive as you can get.
captions don't really matter. If you want to get super autistic about it sure whatever but auto-tagging isn't a huge issue and I'd rather have specific tags blacklisted from the getgo than having to go through and grep'ing them out manually.
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>>8136893
>captions don't really matter
lol
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>>8136893
Yeah this is been my experience too but it would be better if multiple anons baked so we can test theories and settings on a similar dataset.
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>>8136896
can you even fucking read?
Someone packaging captions with the images really does not matter. They're more likely to fuck up and make mistakes than someone who's actually used to it.
It's a style lora. Not a character lora. While there are things to be picky about the dataset is varied enough that it's not a huge deal if everything isn't 100% perfectly accurate.
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>>8136901
ok, let me correct myself
>auto-tagging isn't a huge issue
lol
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>>8136901
Don't respond to baiting shitposters, just bake and post results which he can't refute.
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>>8136826
Hot.
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>>8136857
every 2 days or so, not forcing myself to keep a regular rate because I was burning myself and running out of idea
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>>8136913
nice gyaru elfs
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>>8136812
>>8136826
>>8136814
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>>8136916
wait you guys actually like this concept? in that case, who of the three is going into the centrifuge next
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>>8136939
left because im wondering how much those huge hag titties would be impacted
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>>8136939
I choose right.
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>>8136939
middle just to be annoying
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>>8136939
Obviously all three or you wouldn't have taken the time to post them all.
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>>8136939
tie breaker is here, I vote left
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Is it me, or ComfyUI uses a lot more memory than forge?
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Well, I trimmed and left a total images of 300 images following the criteria some anons gave me, and ran an autotagger following the instructions from here:
>https://rentry.org/59xed3#tagging-your-images-finetuning-only-important
>https://mega.nz/folder/vrokGQYK#eApC5LNcxRL6SknoSZdDOQ
Hopefully this is enough now but any tip to further improve the dataset or tagging process is welcome
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>>8136941
>>8136942
>>8136945
>>8136969
left it is (i assumed this from the start)
here is professor elf hag getting prepared (she is infact not)
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>>8136978
I already picked out 100 of the earlier non-sketch ones and started baking but I'll look at this too thanks.
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>>8135596
>>8136240
I trained a LoRA too from this dataset.
HNX0
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>>8136999
Very nice. I really like the smooth matte style from this artist. Don't really see it very often. It reminds of NAI asurauser and I think it will fit nicely with artist combos. Also checked.
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>jordach plans to continue the 1b for longer, even after the TE finishes
what the fuck, does he actually think this shit looks good? the goal should be to drop the shitty 1b lite as soon as possible and move on. START THE 3.6B ALREADY
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>>8137018
What do you expect? The plan is to sell dream not to release something.
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Does training loras on synthetic data work well? I'd want to create an OG character with NAI, and generate that character locally.
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>>8137029
there are ways to do it but i don't know if that's one of them
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>>8137029
Yes but you have to make sure the dataset images is devoid of AI mistakes as much as possible otherwise the mistakes will inbreed making a less then desirable model, you can also try re-creating your OC in like Honey Select ot Koikatsu to help
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>>8137006
Uploaded
https://civitai.com/models/625699/houtengeki-style-pdxl-lora
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>>8137029
Yes , you can do it.
Train on PonyXL (doesnt work well for sd1.5/nai)
Main focus is to generate pictures with various background and working anatomy.
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>>8137018
based misinformation spreader
they'll start training the 3.6b model as soon as the te is done training (in 2 epochs), but they'll keep training the 1b model anyways to see if some epochs without training the te can unfuck the effnet
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>>8137052
does cascade inpainting work like any other model or is it fucky because the of the 3 step process thing?
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>>8137037
houtengeki has a very "its anime" style like i could never see a picture of his art in the wild and say yep thats him
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>>8137064
it only works with compression 32 iirc but otherwise it should be the same
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>>8136978
Here's a deadnoodles LoRA I had lying around
https://litter.catbox.moe/7jle0h.safetensors
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Does NAI understand words like "in, at, inside" etc or do you STRICTLY have to abide to danbooru's tags and ONLY use them as such? Same question for local since I use both.
Example: I wanted to have birds in the distance, so I typed "birds in the distance" and it did work, but the wiki in the OP does not mention any of that.
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>>8136888
https://files.catbox.moe/xdhqpr.toml
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its not gay if you're both looking at the girl, right?
r-right...?

>this is what I get for putting '1girl, 1boy, couple' in my prompt, I guess
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>>8136983
>>8136941
>>8136942
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>>8136969
this took longer than I thought, lots of inpainting needed, but here is professor elf hag enduring 9 g's in a centrifuge for training astronauts. again something that nai cannot do.
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>>8136983
>>8137087
This is great. Nice work. Now, for the other girls....
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>>8137087
absolutely fantastic. local wins yet again.
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>>8136888
>>8137080
PS.
you may need to check 'gradient checkpointing' if its not checked on lazy scripts (if you're ooming, its probably not checked)

depending on the dataset I usually increase step count to 2000 instead of 1000 as well, and sometimes try 2 repeats

&for me xformers works better than SDPA, but ymmv
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Which training GUI has this CAME optimizer I keep seeing in some loras metadata?
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>>8137101
I think lazy scripts dev has it but can't recall if it actually does or if I just added it at some point
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>>8137029
NTA but
>you can also try re-creating your OC in like Honey Select ot Koikatsu to help
How many koikatsu ss would do the trick? Also, do I need to tag the images with tags like "koikatsu" or "3d"? I remember that pony even recognizes "koikatsu" as a tag
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>>8137110
Sorry, meant for >>8137036
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>>8137103
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>>8137109

It's odd seeing PSO2NG in the wild. Do you have the new designs? They are 10x better
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>>8137113
I didn't train anyone but Manon (first design) and the bodysuit fidelity is really after hi-res fix. Not sure if I want to keep going and make one for her new outfit.
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>>8137124
>really after
*really bad after
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>>8137091
>>8137092
nah im done for today, but if you're interested my lora is here:
https://civitai.com/models/466110/g-force-training-wind-blown-face-concept-for-pony-xl
still working on a 4th version, which is the one i have used in my previous images in this thread
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Furgods saving local again
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>>8137136
its a purely furry checkpoint, gonna be useless to us if they even manage to train it decently
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>>8137136
Remind me when they saved it the first time, again?
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>>8137145
ef+hll was the second coming of blueberrymix
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Please make screenshots smaller for the ultimate cuck experience
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>>8137110
about 10 images (up-close,full body, from behind/front) doesnt even have to be posed (you can t-pose a character) just make sure all the feature are discernible and in frame and tagged properly so the AI can recognize them.
>do I need to tag the images with tags like "koikatsu" or "3d"
correct, If you plan to use Honey Select screenshots you can tag the images with "3d" and "realistic", and for koikatsu you can use Danbooru's koikatsu identifier tag
You can also use the copier method to train your OC with no worries from the artstyle baking in.
https://rentry.org/Copier_Method_Notes
https://rentry.org/bp87n
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>>8137136
is it being trained on hentai? no? then fuck off.
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>>8137159
and by 10 images I meant 10 images from the game and the rest (about 30+ total is needed for a decent dataset) from other sources (Although theres reports of some people training with as low a dataset as 1 image image even!)
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>>8137110
nta but try this:
https://rentry.org/d2ckzxmq#difference-training
https://mega.nz/folder/8opViYib#L1luSkp0O5BfUhotL48WIw
the two .png files in the mega are two scenes that have corresponding activation tokens in the lora. the scene titled koikatsu should just use the default shaders or a close approximation, the scene titled 3d uses KKUTS and KKUSS shaders that you should be able to just look at on the charter.
so just load up your character in the scene with the right materials, take screenshots of them, and then label the character with whatever style token was used in that scene. you can probably get by with only doing the koikatsu one, but using two styles in one lora should hypothetically maybe reduce style overfitting and allow you to train at higher step counts.
also having two variations of the character model can help prevent it from learning weird shit like specific polygons on the hair. i had to do that with >>8136951
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been away for a while. did SD3 become usable or are all involved still riding their ego to the grave
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>>8137161

im sure 1/5 of the images will be hentai, so we will get yet another aislop phase. All the shiny waxy bodies, red tumblr noses, and big full lips.
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just got out of jail for raping kevin nash in the sweltering summer of 92
anything new for local?
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>>8137109
Nice but that needs a version with an unprotected crampie.
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>>8137170
Got BTFO'd by flux for general use. SDXL still tops for porn.
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>>8137175
Yes
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>>8136978
How is this? Does the lora need an activation tag?
https://files.catbox.moe/o5eoo2.jpg
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>>8137019
looks like she has 4 legs and is fucking herself
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>>8137185
>How is this? Does the lora need an activation tag?
Shouldn't need to, eyes looks on point but colors seems a little washed out
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>>8137187
2legsisters...
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>>8136642
H-HOT
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>>8137199
based
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>>8135417
what was the prompt for the original?
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>>8137193
Here is a better grid.
https://files.catbox.moe/o1n3am.jpg
You never know what the score tags will do to a dataset.
>colors seems a little washed out
Might be due to genning on autism instead of reweik. Here's the lora.
https://pixeldrain com/u/Thw81zWr
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>>8137202
>Might be due to genning on autism instead of reweik. Here's the lora.
>https://pixeldrain com/u/Thw81zWr
Many thanks, can you also share your training parameters? Also do you used the curated and tagged dataset or did you picked abounch on your own and tagged them yourself?
I'll be testing your lora
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>>8137206
I picked 100 images and baked at batch size 1 for 6k steps which just finished. I can try your dataset but it will take a long while. I tagged with swinv3 at 0.3 confidence and 0 min tag fraction and did a quick glance to make sure there were no errors. Here's my settings.
https://files.catbox.moe/4je652.json
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>>8136846
yeah, I think that's how it went. you could probably perform a more in-depth analysis by comparing block by block for parity but let's just assume it was only cuts + resizes. I don't think I would have rescaled any layers.
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>>8137209
Seems good so far, all raw gens at 1.0 of strength
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>>8137232
Sounds good. Enjoy.
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>>8136143
What's the style LORA? I like this a lot
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>>8137249
What lora are you using king?
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