No Bakers EditionPrevious Thread: >>8142246>LOCAL WEBUI SETUPhttps://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/wikiOptimizations *NEW*https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/pull/15821https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/pull/15837https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/pull/15824>LOCAL FORGEUIMaintained branch:https://github.com/lllyasviel/stable-diffusion-webui-forge/tree/dev2>LOCAL COMFYUIhttps://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUIhttps://comfyanonymous.github.io/ComfyUI_examples/https://openart.ai/workflows/templates>LOCAL MODELShttps://civitai.com/models/257749/https://civitai.com/models/288584/https://gitgud.io/gayshit/makesomefuckingporn (use Wayback Machine) *OLD*>PAIDNovelAI: https://rentry.org/hdg-nai-v3NAI API/prompting in A1111: https://github.com/Metachs/sdwebui-nai-api>RESOURCESFeatures: https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/wiki/FeaturesTraining: https://rentry.org/59xed3 | https://github.com/derrian-distro/LoRA_Easy_Training_Scripts | https://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainerTags: https://danbooru.donmai.us/wiki_pages/tag_groups | https://danbooru.donmai.us/related_tagControlNet: https://rentry.org/dummycontrolnetIOPaint (LamaCleaner): https://huggingface.co/spaces/Sanster/iopaint-lama | https://www.iopaint.com/installBooru: https://aibooru.online4chanX Catbox/NAI prompt userscript: https://rentry.org/hdgcbPony-related: https://rentry.org/ponyxl_loras_n_stuff | https://rentry.org/ponyxl_lora_previews | https://lite.framacalc.org/4ttgzvd0rx-a6jfEF+HLL: https://rentry.org/5exa3 *OLD*Animation: https://rentry.org/AnimAnon *OLD*OP Template/Logo: https://rentry.org/hdgtemplate/raw | https://files.catbox.moe/xk99gy.png | https://files.catbox.moe/35bdt5.gif>Related>>>/aco/sdg>>>/g/sdg>>>/g/ldg>>>/d/ddg>>>/e/edg>>>/u/udg>>>/vt/vtai>>>/vg/aids>>>/b/degen>>>/trash/sdg
>futa cocks make it into the OP/d/ was a mistake
Patiently awaiting the thread highlights to see if I can put another picture on my refrigerator.
>>8145600that aint futa though? dude probably has micro balls
Top 10 highlighterinos:>>8142334>>8142369>>8142545>>8142722>>8142798>>8142823>>8143102>>8143647
>>8145603Here's one you can stick to your fridge right now
>join the horsefucking discord to see if there's any progress being made on "pony v6.9">astralite has apparently abandoned plans to train sdxl again and now wants to use auraflow >has spent thousands on captioning and hasn't even finished captioning 1/10 of the dataset
>>8145613jewish?
>>8145613vaxxed?
>>8145618comfy
what would happen if you took a dataset with millions of images and just autotagged it? would the model be usable?
>>8145617Frankly don't care. Analyzing penises is gay anyway.
>>8145626I meant the eye stars looking like the star of david
>>8145629Ohhh. Now I see it too. Damnit!
>>8145616Doubt there's much improvement to be made on XL. At this point it would be competing not only with Pony but with six months of loras and merges. At least he's doing something new, and not wasting donation money.
>>8145605>>8145600Man's penis is coming out of his thigh he's a chernobyl descendant if anything
>>8145618Is that Dr Graevling? This really takes me back. I love this shit but if this isn't /aco/ I don't know what is.
What models/vae do you guys usually use for training animu loras?
Heard people mention using negative Vibe Transfer on NAI a while ago to get botched artists back on track by feeding it an example of that artist's earlier works, how do you do that? The docs don't mention it anywhere and I don't see any options for that either in the NAI extension nor on their website.
>>8145650The base of whatever model Iwant to use the lora on. What kind of question is that?
>>8145660Just write a minus sign in strength field. Don't expect sucha simple result though.
>>8145635AF has serious problems though, seems like a massive gamble. I guess we'll see.
>>8145661I guess the question is, what base model generally works the best for animu/hentai nowadays? I've been out of this scene for a year and don't want to use outdated models
>>8145666Check the OP.
What's the best sd and loras to generate cute girls engaged with animals?I get it's pony but maybe there's anything more specific (I'm using AutismMix mostly + a bit of T-ponynai3)I'm very satisfied with results desu and anything Holo related is long time coomer dream
>>8145673Wrong thread
>>8145673my brother we dont accept /d/ here.
>>8145596>still haven't updated the op>>8145675Bestiality is \trash\ not \d\ actually.
>>8145675I don't see anything about bestiality in the rules.Only loli/furry
>>8145676damn, beastiality bros don't even have a proper space for them huh?
>>8145676>>still haven't updated the opwe did a few threads back but a spitebaking fuck prevented it from catching on
>>8145596Top 10 highlighterinos>>8142338>>8142345>>8142402>>8142463>>8142545>>8142653>>8142689>>8142936>>8142957>>8144095>>8145043>>8145125>>8145479>>8145513>>8145519
>>8145258https://www.mediafire.com/file/1qnv8xf8c4sd837/ncaaoo33_XL_16E_GT_V0.5-000015.safetensors/file
>>8145678sadly /b/ is a better place for it, /trash/ is gross
>>8145629Apologies. No more stars. Maybe pentagrams.
>>8145677I don't really mind your pic but if we have to anal about it, there seems to be a loophole in here:global rule #3:You will not post any of the following outside of /b/: Troll posts Racism Anthropomorphic ("furry") pornography Grotesque ("guro") images Loli/shota pornography Dubs or GET posts, including 'Roll for X' imagesand then on /aco/ rules:Global Rule #3 is in effect. No anthropomorphic ("furry") or grotesque ("guro") images are permitted, and all images should depict "of age" participants. Images depicting bestiality, scat, or generally seen to be "extreme" in nature are not to be uploaded.on /d/ its:Images depicting bestiality, guro, scat, or generally seen to be "extreme" in nature are not to be uploaded.so you could maybe infer bestiality is considered "extreme" content and can only be posted on /b/ and /trash/ i guess?
>>8145689Lolwat? How is trash more gross than b?
>>8145684nipple slip next time, please.>>8145690could add them on photoshop
>>8145692depends on if you think realistic cunny is more palatable then furries i guess
>>8145692the thread I just checked over there was full of furries so ill take my chances on /b/
>>8145696there's furries and ponies on /b/ as well actually
>>8145694
>>8145673still better than being a nogengood shit
>>8145691>bestiality is extreme>shoving multiple futa horse cocks that each are larger than the girl's entire body up her asshole and pussy and filling her with a bathtub's worth of cum is normal
>>8145695>>8145696Furries and ponyfags post on /b/ as well, but /b/ also has literal feds posting there and has much more schizophrenic atmosphere than /trash/. I can mentally filter out content I dislike just fine if it's not spammed, but there's much more schizo shit on b
>>8145692fuck off furry
>>8145702It's on the same level as loli due to the legal gray area around non-photorealistic images.
>>8145691Fuck I don't want to share my space with my cute consensual bestiality vanilla catgirls with fucking furry shit jesus christ
No text highlights? Damn, I'm always looking forward to those
>>8145711use catbox then
>>8145665which one doesnt have serious problems? maybe flux, but the requirements are too steep a jump over SDXL
>>8145711Clearly your solution is making a human female/male animal bestiality AI general on trash
>>8145711you think too highly of your fetish.
>>8145714Is it alright if share it here via catbox then?Am I not dodging rules in that case?
>>8145719Ofc because it's my fetish and I'm protective
>>8145720You might get banned if a jannie is having a bad day but it's rare, they don't usually police catboxes.
>>8145720>Is it alright if share it here via catbox then?nogens will seethe but i wouldn't be bothered about them>Am I not dodging rules in that case?never seen someone being nuked over catboxed content https://files.catbox.moe/ke3ncl.png
>>8145718he could always make a treechan thread for it. kek
>>8145700yeah thats good
>>8145618
>>8145728>two assholesoh no
>>8145730Double the fun
>>8145728holy mother of melty...
>rebake lora to include a bunch of upscaled portraits >no hands are included in these new images>hands are now fucky vs fine before aaaaaaa>>8145442>>8145448>>8145455>>8145484thanks frens & sorry if I wasn't much help with your lora in the end, but I hope you figured out something that works !>>8145716>but the requirements are too steep a jumpseems like optimizations are lessening these each day, definitely still a hefty fee for a full finetune. I'll need to upgrade my gpu if I want to bake flux loras, but it looks like people have already started on doing those locally, so that's nice.. obviously no replacement for a finetune, though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxY1iXYBmlg&t=90s
>>8145753twp
>>8145744juicy trucy
Well, the only issue I have is that animals look very dumb.Still better than most that artists deliver.https://files.catbox.moe/si9tz9.png
>>8145760i need a based check on this one, am i supposed to?
>>8145760This is prime /b/ material bwo, not even trying to shitpost here.
No cock like horse cock
at least the girl is cute
>>8145760Good addition to the catbox roulette. It's boring when it's only ever loli
Has they made an anime hentai model fir sd3 yet?
>>8145760I really don't understand how monster sex is /d/ but this isn't allowed on /d/like if you give a wolf a unicorn horn is it now /d/? is it only humanoid monster sex and tentacles? I truly can't say the distinction makes sense, it'd be refreshing to have compared to the endless shitty futa posts there
>>8145769no one, and I mean literally no one, in any community, anywhere, cares about SD3. anyone who did is now on flux
>>8145770It's about how close it is to realistic scenario, I think. It's the reason why loli triggers so many people while cub diaper scat unbirth doesn't.
>>8145772Then the same question but Flux
I just uploaded my cheekbulge lora to civ for the anon who was asking for it
>>8145776>tiananmen bing chillingMy favorite artist!
>>8145775sadly no, it is brand new, we've just passed the optimizing it so it can run for vramlets stage, dipping our toes into 24gb vram can kind of train loras for it hour I thought flux sucked ass looking through /g/'s gens but after trying it a bit myself, I actually pray it does get a hentai finetune. if not it, hunyuan I guess, since hunyuan already has a lot of anime/manga styles. hunyuan feels kind of sloppy around the edges though
>>8145768Well technically Chocolla is a lolihttps://files.catbox.moe/rnmx5i.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/wzz6sg.png
>>8145772Does that even having a training script available?
>>8145774Well anime catgirls are not even remotely realistic
>>8145784So it still doing the thing with sd of having multiple text encoders?
>>8145775it took something like six months for a good sdxl anime finetune to be released, i'd expect it to take longer for flux
>>8145789Catgirls might as well be humans with fake animal ears. It's far more grounded than let's say dragons
>>8145775one will inevitably happen, although the model requires much better captioning to make the most out of it. 6-8 months at LEAST
>>8145786it does, and it also has people baking loras already (though that's still in its infancy). problem is the cost is even more outrageous than SDXL. so it may be dependent on how much tech nerds can optimize it. illya made it run on 6gb vram devices, if similar magic can be made into a half-decent model then maybe loras and finetunes will be within local reach (24gb vram can already do loras, but limited). I'm not smart enough to understand how that kind of compression works/what kind of masochism has to be performed to teach t5 no-no words
>>8145796please dont tell me t5xxl doesn't know """unsafe words""" too
>>8145783him and the bbc artist mixes should get royalty at this point
>>8145759Best Ace Attorney girl by far
You guys keep meeting larger and larger models , and maybey the models might be justified being that big to make rl pics but does anyone not stop and question maybey 2d generation might not exactly benefit from the direction current models are moving toward?
>>8145793It's just there such a big line separating idealistic fantasy bestiality when dogs are into girls, it doesn't look weird and forced, etc. And irl gross bullshithttps://files.catbox.moe/t0sjh3.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/krdj9j.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/pjxdbv.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/5sg1t3.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/1nxfgg.png
>>8145796What is t5? The text encoder?
>>8145804get a job and learn english
>>8145799BBC being oppressed is actually sort of poetic hilarious
>>8145804For 1girl standing yeah, but if you want to create cool scenes with some action, flux is amazing. The way you can describe scenes on flux is something we could only dream of a year ago. You can literally describe what girl1, girl2, girl3 looks like and doing, and it will understand that.
>1girl, small breasts, wide hips, full-face blush, pov, huge penis, cum in pussy, neck grab
>>8145810>For 1girl standing yeah, but if you want to create cool scenes with some action, flux is amazing.proof?
Got the new fancy reforged installed and noticed there's a bunch of scheduler options available now. I've always done DPM++ SDE previously, but maybe there's better combinations?
>>8145805btw, If you go on huggingface and search around you should be able to find some loras to get some better beast stuff
>>8145735still using your 3k steps config, and this is the latest bake so far https://files.catbox.moe/s6w0d8.png
>>8145798I don't actually know, maybe it does know enough it can infer things without needing to re-teach it? I definitely don't have enough knowledge in that>>8145806yeah, basically, big diq te >>8145804I was adverse to flux originally and thought the amount of params wasn't necessary (maybe we could still do with less, really), but the gain in prompt comprehension is really insane. I tried genning the same prompt on SDXL vs hunyuan vs flux and no matter how I looked at it, flux blew them out of the water. It also didn't have any of the issues with items and things in the backgrounds being tiny, melted or hallucination nonsense things - it was all very clear and coherent. it might seem insignificant if all you want out of it is 1girl standing white background, but in general I can't see it being anything but the future right now. outside of that, though, improvements to local are truly bottlenecked by two things:1) dataset (particularly captioning) 2) gpu (fuck nvidia)
>>8145817Mind sharing a link? So far I've found https://huggingface.co/KappaNeuro/cute-animalsNeed to degrade a bit more to get off from thisHere's personalami rendering, too bad she'd never do bestialityhttps://files.catbox.moe/ly7e52.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/kx1tr7.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/kophii.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/tpnhrr.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/43s9w8.png
>>8145596It's so weird that AI can do Ishikei better than Ishikei himself nowadays, his art looks legitimately unappealing now. I know the dude's in his 50s now but still.
>>8145824that's what happens when you train something on curated works
>>8145824>It's so weird that AI can do Ishikei better than Ishikei himself nowadaysJust like abmayo
>>8145741bestimage in the whole thread
>>8145825it's NAI
>>8145822https://huggingface.co/marasamalook through what this guy has posted he has a few
>>8145818>still using your 3k steps configI wish I could tell you I knew which one that meant desu.. that looks great though, seems it understands her uniform and the hair is on point. happy to see you've been bakin', its weirdly fulfilling to make loras >>8145824he took a really weird turn, as if he's having an intern set everything up in vroidstudio then tracing over that or something.. it's uncanny and sovless feeling
>>8145828i'd recognize that pony plastic from a mile chud
>>8145824desu I never found his style to be appealing.
>>8145836wtf i said desu?
>>8145836don't worry, some people are just born with bad taste.
>>8145802definitelyathena is second
>>8145838cope impostor>>8145839cope
>>8145810Do you need to use vllms to train these?
>>8145831>seems it understands her uniformthere are more promptable outfits and wife in same lora aswel https://files.catbox.moe/vgschn.jpgmain thing with latest bake is close-up portraits with good iris in dataset specifically for adetailer runs so i wouldn't be redrawing them myself, so far looks okay, even though it requires gacha>>8145847miwiki...
>>8145824i would like to think that he's just not putting in much effort into most of his fantia posts while he works on the VN. his redraws have almost all looked pretty good imo and occasionally his original art looks fine as welland then i see shit like https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/7926701 and wonder if he's got a brain tumor or something
>>8145821>yeah, basically, big diq teIs it just one?
>>8145826>Just like abmayookay what the fuck happened to him, why miqu hair is so dull https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=10455437&tags=abmayo
>>8145804my plan right now is to continue my dataset experiments just on 1.5 on my home gpu refining my approach. Then when I get my Christmas bonus drop 2k on compute and applying what I learned on whatever looks to be the best model for it December.
>>8145859>1.5genuinely bad idea considering so much has changed
Can someone try doing small breasts, (loli:-1) with negpip? I'm trying to see if it's working correctly for me because it's making the girl more loli not less.
>>8145865I see that as an absolute win
>>8145829Thanks.Looks like it made dogs more stableFar easier to do french kissing/tongue playhttps://files.catbox.moe/s9ho5k.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/dx9hsy.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/zz9u4r.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/sxldhi.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/dch6j7.png
this slider had decent effect in an attempt to make male subjects less homogenous:https://civitai.com/models/481221/muscle-slider-ponyon a modest negative value, the forearm, hand, thigh and torso of the male subject looks a bit less regular pony and had negligible impact on stylealso negpip (muscular male:-1.1) seemed much more effective than the same tag in negative promptsome cumulative bleed onto female subject, which i worked around in this prompt with (abs:0.25), small waistalso using separate prompts for base model and refiner, refining at step 20 of 30, gives finer control over final shadinghttps://litter.catbox.moe/76uk0d.png
>>8145865>it's making the girl more loli not less.good
>>8145804Bigger is better. Simple as.
>tell myself I wont jerk off today>do some gen for fun>jerk offWhy am I like this, legit no self control
>>8145860nta but literally nothing has changed architecture-wise
>>8145865i think just introducing a concept in the positive prompt can make it more prominent in the gen even if you're weighing against it.
>>8145867>>8145871Sure but I still need to know if the extension works. You'd think real loli enthusiasts would want to discriminate between small breasts and true loli. Take this as a peace offering and test negpip please.https://files.catbox.moe/xnvuga.png
>>8145874>>tell myself I wont jerk off todaywhen i remember that i haven't jerked off for several days it means i'll ruing my streak today
>>8145877nothing is perfectnegpip can be stronger than negative promptit can also be less consistent, i think it varies from gen to gen depending on which vectors you're already engaging
>>8145875yeah bro no differences between 1.5 and flux! literally nothing :)
>ET found his way into the images
>>8145880>>8145876Yeah maybe it's just that loli is a strong tag. Oh well I'll just increase the weight in negative prompt as usual then.
Alright people I've been checking the neggles/neurosis leak pretty studiously and I've arrived at the realisation that it's mostly just repackaging existing open source libraries (see lpips, dreamsim, etc.) into his own stripped down repository.The guy can refactor like a machine but I doubt much of this is hand written.
>>8145887>neggles/neurosis leakwat
>>8145893wdv training code got leaked
>>8145894>leakedhasnt neurosis been up for a long time publicly
>>8145887Jordach won
>>8145893https://archiveofsins.com/h/thread/8090201/#8093354it's the version that had somehow had some of NAI's training code in it.imagine that, having access to NAI's codebase and doing nothing useful with it
>>8145901>it's the version that had somehow had some of NAI's training code in it.it had the tag count loss from the initial NAI leak, which was removed. everything else is the same.
>>8145901And the rest of it:https://github.com/neggles/neurosisIf you like mass copy-pasted-refactored modules, you'll find it interesting.I don't think it does anything original.
>>8145872No it isn't You use the right tool for the right job You can even experiment and see for yourselfGet a perceptron to map a simple function , say a sine function. Train it then a version of it with more layers and or neurons per layer keep doing this and Up to a certain point it won't converge or just take and ungodly long time to with no benefit because the search space is way too big for what you want it to do .
>>8145901that's not a leak, that's just a backup from a version of neurosis that was publicly available on github until it got a takedown request by naiand that particular code was from the nai leak 2 years ago like the other anon said
in previous gens skinny tag didnt do much to the male subject, but in tandem with negative muscle slider, (muscular male:-1.1) i think it further shifts the male away from normal pony fare, while also counteracting some of the above things' bleed onto the female subject
>>8145870>>8145916Never really cared that much for the male (people here even laugh at me for wanting non pov) but thanks for your tests anon.
>>8145916the only role hairless skinny males should have in porn is being cucked
>>8145921im just tired of genning the same damn forearm and hand>>8145924hair is a relatively independent variable. hairy male at full power has some bleed into overall male size but it's still less generic and im confident can be tuned further
also this lora is quite basedhttps://civitai.com/models/623923/drool
>>8145929>>8145916>ruining the fat bald ojii-san economyThe one thing I had to look forward to in my old age
>>8145854Being turned into loras sucked out his soul. Many such cases.
>>8145936>loras steal a bit of artist's soul
>>8145936>Wasting time in "AI bad" twitter echochambers sucked out his soul. Many such cases.ftfy
>>8145937the alignment of circuitry in mimicry of your life's toil creates a reflection of your aetherial form, and weak souls find themselves divided between their flesh host and the machine host
>>8145905That's the case for tiny toy models. We're not gonna be able to come even close to compressing all of the boorus into a few dozen GB. Of course your arch also has to be not braindead.
>>8145940kinda beautiful statement.reminds me of that one kikuo song"When people put their hopes and feelings in things, their souls cross over and dwell in them, since they’ll last forever."
Can anyone give me a set up for a anime illustration style? >3090 gpu (24 vram)>intel i5 12400>32 ramI currently have reforge (I think?) installed with the models PDv6 and autism mix which work and give me gens. what I am trying to avoid is colors and style like >>8145632>>8145618>>8145681 (no offense no hate, great art just NOT what i want)but it is giving me kinda a 3dish look. i want a hard matte manga/anime illustration look like pic related. I can't figure this shit out and I did see people posting elsewhere, So i know it exists. Could anyone please spoonfeed me cause I've been at this for like 6 hours now.
>>8145956put a lora or two oncivitai, log in for all the good shitfor flat styles, too many to say really. flat sketchy, moe, pastel, etc. there are literally many thousands of single options and innumerable combinations.Just be careful with how you apply loras, most are not well made, go into each assuming it's done poorly and mix weights accordingly.If you really wanna burn time, start fixing loras by stripping them down and resizing.
>>8145854>Started doing migu sex >Ended up making her a furry, giving her a penis, and, hell even forget about her 01 number mark in her left arm on half of his drawings Why is it always like thisThis is no longer a wifelover, but just a degenerate who uses miku like his plaything for all the effortless garbage he wants to makeThis dude DOES NOT represents us TRUE wife lovers.
>>8145956base pony and autism are old and busted especially for animetry reweik, wai ani, or anime confettiflyx3 mix is also good if you think you like more retro stylethere's a lot more options open to you in terms of loras, refiners, prompt structure, blah blah blah but just using one of the newer anime checkpoints is a good start
>>8145949Sexy.
>>8145804Localjeets when playing with garbage xl sepiaslop:>dont want to gen on pony? you must be poor!Localjeets when flux drops:>wait stop go back, not like this!!!Are the majority of 1.5/pony users really poorfags running 4gb vram 1660 cards? I always though the idea was that if you're doing local you go all in (24gb vram, lora training, rapid iteration, batch sizes, insane upscales, etc). What's the point waiting around 3+ minutes for a shitty 1024x1024 toonslop gen from pony? That sounds fucking awful, just buy a sub at that point.
>>8145967nta but you should probably provide names in full for these models considering the guy is newthere's a billion anime confetti models
>>8145956pretty much what >>8145963 said.login to civit.ai and find some loras of styles you like. you can filter in the top right and just select 'Lora' and 'Pony' filters. then you can filter to only show you style at the top of the page by clicking 'styles' . you can mix and match some loras as well. your other option is to get another checkpoint that's based off pony and is just merges of loras and other checkpoints. then you can also use negative prompts for stuff like 'vivid, high contrast, etc' as well as postive prompts like 'pastel'.
How to get rid of that oily, shiny, smeary look of pony skin? Any magic tags? I've tried the skin highlight lora and various combinations of score tags/no score tags but had no luck
>>8145982example?
>>8145982shiny skin in negs?
>>8145956Just sub to NAI.t. shill
>>8145982>>8145972>>8145989Aren't you bored of this shit? Go back to /v/ faggot
>>8145983>>8145984already doing that
>>8145992The first too are a different shill. Don't lump me in with them.
>>8145963>Just be careful with how you apply loras, most are not well made, go into each assuming it's done poorly and mix weights accordingly.I'm assuming you mean when I use a lora the style is "right" but everything else goes to shit like pussies and anatomy in general? Because, while I did see the colors and shading turn ...better, it made some of the most monstrous body horror I have even seen ai spit out. Faces were also pretty fucked and but i only tried like 2 "loras". So, yea, I'm holding off on experimenting with those a for a bit>>8145967>>8145974give it to me straight, can I get pic related style without going through another six hours of research and testing? Any models you guys have that just "work" for this? A lot of the preview images still have a realistic lighting like civitai.com/models/311817/anime-confetti-comrade-mix
>>8145851it has t5 and clip_l but you can choose not to run both of them. its not really as retarded as SDXL's 2 clip TEs which feel pointless imo. you can try their schnell ("fast") version on huggingface: https://huggingface.co/spaces/black-forest-labs/FLUX.1-schnell(I've only tried prompting with nat language not sure how it does with booru tags) keep in mind it's stylistically hideous in almost every scenario as-is, the appreciation has more to do with the potential this level of prompt comprehension has it's really probably wishful thinking to hope it would ever get a hentai finetune, but that's what we all thought with SDXL originally too, so.. who knows, maybe one day someone bites the bullet, or it's existence inspires higher standards for better base models in the future>>8145849noice, not overcooked then, being able to separate all the outfits/chars. looks like it got her angry-brow face down too &yeah, I struggle with finding the happy medium of close-up portraits in the dataset at times. could probably try increasing the dim if its struggling with iris's, then resize the lora smaller post-training if you don't want a big file size (usually retains a bit more detail this way). if you haven't tried that already, I mean It looks good to me as-is from the images you've shown though>>8145887are we sure he's not a DEI at this point kekmaybe his work facing self is different but his public persona would embarrass me as a company ... then again it's a tech space, not exactly known for well adjusted individuals, so what do I know >>8145956maybe someone can link you something more specific, but you'll want a lora (if not multiple). check on civit under pony loras for something that fits the bill, this one might help with line thickness:>https://civitai.com/models/536740/pony-lineart-adjusterif you're using score tags, styles like that usually benefit from not using 'em, too
>>8146000Pony doesn't respond to any of those tags. I'll look for a shiny skin lora
>>8145982You did drop all score tags already, right?
>>8145998you won't easily get styles like that with Pony modelsyou can get generic anime style with recent pony modelsif you want styles like that specifically, use SDXL models with some artist knowledge like Olympus v2, Kohaku Epsilon
Wtf is "ODOR"? India trained model?
>>8146008>Olympus v2, Kohaku Epsilonanimagine is better than both of those now come on
>>8146009kek'd
>>8146001>>8145735those are such girly gens I can't even
>>8146010haven't used 3.1 much, did the NSFW improve?
>unironically pointing people to shitmixescome the fuck on, man.
>>8146008Of course you can. It's just difficult, more than it needs to be.
>>8145989are you referring to these memberships? I don't see how any of these are a better option than just downloading the model?>>8146010>animagine>Olympus v2>Kohaku Epsiloncan these do nsfw? Any posts to link that use these?
>>8145998>give it to me straightyou will need to do more testing and digging. i suggest asking anons for a catbox if you see an image with a style you like.
>>8146023he's talking about NovelAI, hosts arguably the best model for anime gens, but is locked behind a sub. This is by far the most straightforward solution - type your prompt, type your artist (provided they have like 150-200+ images on danbooru), and boom, your gen.
>>8146020Where? Olympus and Kohaku are not mixes.And a literal "shitmix" is in the OP, autissmix. There's nothing wrong with using them by itself if you know what you're doing. Loras merged into the model behave differently compared to loras simply applied while prompting. Shitmixing is worth it to get rid of pony's atrocious innate style as much as possible.
>>8145860U.S. Army Corps of Engineers Bay Model
>>8146027Very clean but I hate when it randomly does that weird shading on the top of the cleavage sometimes. It always looks sort of off to me
>>8146027Only b-chama is allowed to post ghislaine
>>8145998this is still, largely, a social game - unless you want to play on solo and learn how to do all your own lora training.get the catbox extension. if you see someone post shit you like the look of, ask for a catbox and any associated lora's/whatever and work forward from there.I wouldn't recommend bothering with shitmixes, they won't really add anything other than their own innate style bias while reducing the effectiveness of style lora's.
>>8146034Liar
>>8146034>I wouldn't recommend bothering with shitmixes, they won't really add anything other than their own innate style bias while reducing the effectiveness of style lora's.quite literally, they're mostly just model + lora, packaged as a 6.5GB file, offering none of the benefits except "you don't need to load a lora manually" and all of the downsides.
>>8146037>>8146034Stop shilling basepony, astra. autism reigns supreme and we won't be gaslighted into abandoning it again.
>>8146029>arguably the best model for anime genskek
the closer to base model you get, the better, but you have a short memory anonnobody used base NAI after AOM2.
>>8146046(You)
>>8146048(No You)
>>8146029>paying for extra blur and ooze on your slop genspaypigsisters we cant stop lo... i mean winning!
>>8145816Smea dy + AYS is preddy good.
>>8146029>arguably the best model for anime gensThat would be pony diffusion v6.
>>8146047All my loras used base nai and where highly downloaded/ rated
>>8145929Luckily for me I already look like that and say that so I have no need for such "finetuning."
>>8146047that's because base NAI, for all the advancement we got out of it, was still really shit - and a lora on its own couldn't even begin to attempt to fix its issues. And don't forget, no one recommended using base AOM2 for all that long, either.That said, pony is a different story with all sorts of random fuckups, but lora's are, generally speaking, an effective way to deal with it.
>>8145949I love small breasts bros...
>>8146029anon....
>>8146057Funny way to spell resonance cascade beta 0.87.1346789.e10 lite
>>8146041reweik is better thoughever
>>8146067you wanna know what the lora merged into reweik was based off of..?yep, NAI!
>>8146066Base pony is an outstanding anime model. Very clean style, flexible, extendable (thanks to loras and controlnet). NAI is too blurry.
>>8146067reweik bros raise up
piggies really oinking today huh...
>>8146056Thanks for the suggestion anon. What is AYS? I only see Euler SMEA dy in my list. And how many steps should I run?
>>8146061The ideal lower body. Shame it's an imminent vacation here.
Holy mother of discord screenshots
uh oh a meltie incoming
>>8146077>nothingburger with no /hdg/ celebsdont care. post latest neggles screenshot accompanied by a jordach meltdown
>>8146076Can't you post on /b/ instead?
>>8146077tl;dr?
uh oh anti-nai diaperfag schizo meltie
>>8146084Can't, this is my home:(
>>8146073Yeah bro you got me to try it and I haven't looked back. It's unironically more colorful than autism.
>>8146086>me when i smear my diaper over my image and think its goodlocalgods... how do we win
>>8143460 Reminder that this or a similar-thinking faggot is trying stir shit and trigger schizos right now. Don't fall for it, we had a nice thing going.
>>8146085Nothing, no progress whatsoever, just more committees, foundations and meetings.
>>8146076Catboxes exist for a reason you knowhttps://files.catbox.moe/pvkx3z.png
>>8146089based reweik appreciator bro
Those blacked gens are nice. Posting the most demanded fetish is always good. Thank you.
>>8146109Is this a request? there's not a single blacked gen posted itt
test
>>8146034>this is still, largely, a social game - unless you want to play on solo and learn how to do all your own lora training.well, not exactly what I wanted to hear, but since your image is probably the closest to what I wanted to gen, ill take your word for it. This is a lot harder than some anons on another board made it out to be. Everyone just said, two hours and you can gen whatever the fuck i wanted but apparently getting what everyone is calling a "generic" anime style is kinda hard.Also, if any anons come on that could help out, im lurking please please please please just throw me a fucking bone. >>8146029Is there a gallery, im looking on reddit there's barely anything and it's mostly sfw. im also searching civit and all nai tagged models don't look very different? I don't really want to drop cash just to start right back here.
>236 seconds for the example imageg-go on without me flux chads...
Thoughts on T-ponynai3?https://civitai.com/models/317902?modelVersionId=673299Kinda crazy how we're still on Pony after so many months
>>8146125 I looked, and behold, a black man; and he who sat on it had the name Cathag; and Shitposting was following with him.
>>8146127Apparently there is a FLUX model for lower end PCs, I haven't checked it out though because I use forgeUI:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5BjuPgF1Ds
>>8146126I'm not sure what those anons are talking about. I imagine autismmix + flat artist lora + 3d in negative prompt should give you what you're looking for. What you need to do first is find an artist you like, see if there's a lora that replicates that well, or gather 100 pics and ask someone here to make that lora for you. Then learn how to prompt.
>>8146130Stop samefagging
>>8146127You can use the smaller TEI'm getting 60secs on a 4070
>>8146132It's just lobotomizing it with quantization.
>>8146132That doesn't work on ultrashit GPUs like 10xx
>>8146142NF4 is comparable with fp16. And if you are a vramlet it's better than nothing
>>8146132thanks anon, I'll check it out, also damn, just from the start of the video the guy has a 4090 and it still took him 50 seconds with the dev model, that's pretty steep>>8146141I have a 4070 super so I'll probably get similar performance then, gotta experiment with these alternatives
>>8146147Comparable means that it's possible to compare it. It doesn't mean that it's good.
>>8146132but it was in forge first
what's the difference between the samplers and schedulers?
>>8146130>a black manThe pixels being colored black doesn't mean the character they represent is from the USA.
>>8146154it's good enough to not look awful when compared to fp16. if you are a vramlet you either don't use this shit at all (300 secs per gen is not reasonable at all) or use crutches like this.
>>8146032fuck you I didnt notice it now I cant unsee it. Its just shadows...
>>8146158Read this if you want https://stable-diffusion-art.com/samplers/#Evaluating_samplersOr just pick one of the eulers, they work for everything
>tfw forgor to rename and do example gens of some loras I downloaded time ago and now I don't know what they even are/do
>>8145596>>LOCAL FORGEUI>Maintained branch:>https://github.com/lllyasviel/stable-diffusion-webui-forge/tree/dev2link dont even workis og forge back now?some shit about a backend rewrite
style still feels weak, gonna try a rebake with pruned dataset & more repeats. have a nice day anons, thanks again for the birthday wishes>>8146015I cannot imagine any reason why I'd make girly gens, none what so ever, it is a mystery beyond our mortal comprehension desu>>8146027>>8146162perfection..>>8146077>OMIdo people follow this for any reason other than comedic relief? >>8146132 there's a version for nu-forge>>8146142>>8146154unno, most of the comparisons I've seen quantization made nicer composition and style choices on average, don't know why its getting shit on so hard
>>8146175Bake your tits into the lora next time.
>>8146183flat chested
>>8146073me in the middle
>>8146186You mean the guy, right anon? R..right?
>>8146126how flat do you want anontry Equos with some style loras or the 4th tail lyco extract if you know which artists you wantput anime screencap in prompt if you just want anime style
>>8146164thx anon, this link is very informational
>>8146187yeah sure
>>8146187He does because that girl is me :3 teehee
>>8146126>Everyone just said, two hours and you can gen whatever the fuck i wanted but apparently getting what everyone is calling a "generic" anime style is kinda hardno idea what they're calling generic. There's very specific generic as fuck AI looking things that, yeah, takes pretty much no effort to get to - it just doesn't look very good and very explicitly looks like AI. Getting rid of that is situationally hard(this is where the 'social' aspect comes in since more people=more knowledge=less work to sift through shit), but getting rid of it in a way that you actually like can be more difficult. So, again, get the catbox extension and learn to check for metadata to find out what people are doing.I don't have the lora from that specific on mega since it's a bit wonky but here's a litterboxhttps://litter.catbox.moe/f4lt7a.safetensorsit's a multi-artist lora. it's technically got 5 artists but one isn't super great and another is basically a wash and of the other three one of them is only partially effective. The artist being used for that output(tsuda hayato) came out pretty decently, though.here's a mega directoryhttps://mega.nz/folder/FiUlmbaY#THGdabflbUDLMXffz_febQa lot of eclectic stuff from different timeframes. multipack directory has more multi-artist lora's(other varients of tsudahayato and a lot of flat flat/sketch oriented stuff exists there). I'd probably recommend sorting by date and checking things by how recently they've been added. Most the directories have a sample grid and those have metadata so download and open in notepad or something to check shit.
>>8145796>it doesWhere?
>>8146202Simple tuner
Why do I occasionally get blurry flux gens with this error: E:\ComfyUI_windows_portable\ComfyUI\comfy\ldm\modules\attention.py:407: UserWarning: 1Torch was not compiled with flash attention. (Triggered internally at C:\actions-runner\_work\pytorch\pytorch\builder\windows\pytorch\aten\src\ATen\native\transformers\cuda\sdp_utils.cpp:555.) out = torch.nn.functional.scaled_dot_product_attention(q, k, v, attn_mask=mask, dropout_p=0.0, is_causal=False)
Can someone remind me why it's bad to bake score 9 and score 7 into your lora? What does it actually do to the output? Putting an artist name activation tag helps if you want to use score tags but not as much as just putting the score tags you will use somewhere in the dataset.
>>8146204Probably better off asking ldg
>>8146204what cfg you're using
>>8146206Isn't that the nonce general? nah thanks
>>8146209None, still using the basic workflow that comfy shared
>>8146205Putting score tags makes it mistakenly attribute parts of your dataset to those scores, and since the scores are already hard built into the model you're essentially fighting what the model believes those scores are, usually losing details for things that should be more associated with their actual words
>>8146211No one here is actually using flux, they are. You're unlikely to get an answer here for it
>>8145541I tried and it just makes distortions, same for Neta. Animagine works fine, but we didn't need it there.Tried a dozen pony mixes too and only Trifusion seems to work, probably has just traces of pony in it.
>>8146205it's not bad, but those aren't real tags you want to apply dropout to them or use wildcards.
oh, making your own basic merges is actually fastthis opens up a whole new ballpark of schizodom for menot trying anything terribly ambitious, just trying to land on a better refiner
>>8146223>refinerSirs...
>>8146205Mainly you mess up compatibility with other loras, since you can't both train the same tag with different meanings.
>>8146226it does not do this
>>8146061You'd be surprised to know how actually good NAI1 is if you actually try to compare it to AOM2.
>>8146228Uhhh doubt. I remember actually playing it back in the day during late 1.5 days and it's very rough. Simply applying lora certainly didn't unfuck it. Anything V3 was actually pretty usable though.
>>8146224refiner gets you better anime faces and less obviously "pony" lines and character shading
>>8146234not this shit again
>>8146234just use lora chud
>>8146234refiner gets you mangled fingers and genitalia
>>8146234Refiner is slow as shit since you have to load and unload a separate model
>>8146234refiner makes this thread go kaboom bro>>8146236>>8146239>>8146240>>8146240>>8146241
can just bake a lora.
>>8146232You should test it now, the same way you prompt pony or nai3.
>>8146241if you're a ramlet>>8146239i havent found a lora that does this well on eyes and eyebrows especially on raw gens
>>8146249You could get that exact image if not better using midkemia with adetailer, the fuck are you doing using 6gb loras
don't forget guys, another checkpoint shitmixed with lora is all you need
>>8146258Correct.
>>8146258Doggo
>>8146252a detailer step takes longer than just finishing the last third of the steps with a basic (your favorite checkpoint & animagine) merge
buddy of mine asked for vanilla from nekopara. 1 sfw and 1 nsfw.i got the sfw in progress right now, what should i do for the nsfw one? i was told "anything" and that leaves too much room for my liking
>>81462621girl, standing, nude, smile
Refiner allows you to achieve stronger style changes compared to just using a lora on pony but it's not worth it considering all the issues and complications it causes. There, I said it.
>rentry is downsigh
>>8146267Based take
>>8146268How much information do we lose if it were down infinitely..
>>8146268>>8146271wow, that was a quick fix, it started working again
>>8146265too simple, what else you got?
>>8146273orcs?
>>8146273>irrumatio, deepthroat, oral, motion lines, head grab, messy hair, saliva trail, tongue out
>>8146275orcs are good too
>>8146267What issues and complication are you talking about?
>>8146275orcs arent in nekopara yet>>8146280i will see where this goes
>>8146288>orcs arent in nekopara yet>yetBe the change you want to see in the world.
>>8146301im not fond of orcs. im sure you can understand why id prefer to not be that change
>>8146304How about goblins or minotaurs?
>>8146306no
1girlsmug
>>8146208What's the name for this hand position? v arms doesn't work.
>>8146234They hated him because he spoke the truth.
>>8146261adetailer literally takes 2.5 secs for me though so I really don't see the benefit.
>>8146282>orcs are good tooaye
>>8145596So when did the practice of the OP sharing the OPgen stop? Digging through archives, I see multiple OPgens I like, and nobody posted catbox.
>>8146329refiner improves character knowledge across whole scene, like outfit details and hair doodads, not just face, and overall i think it looks better for slop and makes less work for me for effortpostingpicrel base model reweik 20 steps & westoid loras, refiner (reweik & animagine). it's just a little bit better across the whole image particularly the face
>>8146337and oh, the refiner was 10 stepsyou can also "refine" with the same model and a different lora set, split the prompt and seed hunt the last third of the denoise, etc. it's just neat
>>8145805>It's just there such a big line separating idealistic fantasy bestiality when dogs are into girls, it doesn't look weird and forced, etc. And irl gross bullshitLiterally all the beast hentai artists I know of and fap to draw it like "irl gross bullshit", where'd you come from, friend?
now for female orcs
>>8146324try "arms between legs"
sirs, any of you got locally breasts like this? >>8144804tried all those [small breasts|flat chest], breasts apart, sagging breasts prompts, but it looks nothing like those that NAI produces
Shill time! If you're tired of searching for artist loras just to make an image "look anime", AUA is outhttps://civitai.com/models/641682Exchange 10/10 perfect hands for something that resembles NAI-style prompting.Spend your time looking for artist names, not heating up your gpu to train overbaked loras!Shill time over. Enjoy the rest of your day!
>>8146341>no tusksthats just a tall goblin
>>8146350>oh cool a new model >clicks link>base model: SDXL 1.0nvm
>>8146354Nobody tags Pony models as pony nowadays even if they are pony. It's shameful.
>>8146351a tall goblin is literally an orc
>>8146337Alright anon I'll nibble your bait. What do I have to do to set this up?
>>8146348It's not "NAI" it's those artists. You can do the same with an opossumachine lora.
>>8146350>overbaked lorasIf only this was true
>>8146360sdxl samplers on webui should have a builtin refiner option, on comfy you can use two advanced samplersponymagine is a perfectly fine prebaked checkpoint for a refinerwebui and pony both have options for making your own merges, i did mine like this https://litter.catbox.moe/6ijdj6.json
>>8146350CCC_anon, I haven't tested AUA yet, but just know that you are the best <3
>>8146360https://rentry.org/anypony-science
>8146373This is a troll post for any newfags that might be unknowningly taking the bait
>>8146362>opossumachineI will check it again but dropped using it because it turn everything into toddler proportions
>>8146378uh-oh, we have a meltie?
>>8146373for clarity i think a merge like ponymagine is better overall as a refiner than plain animagine
Wish something like this happened to me, and not involve a homeless person.
>>8146379Toddler is based, local could never...
>>8146379Lower the weight.
>>8146221catbox me that image though.
>>8146379Loli anatomy is saved
>>8146387>>8146388>green box for cat box info>no meta data foundWhy would you do this.
>>8146399only based loli anatomy is long legged tall flat with narrow hipsbut Pony it's shitting bed on that
>>8146383Does ponymagine understand pony tags and score tags?
why do some people call anorexic girls a loli
>>8146404yes, which is a help in reducing tedium when you dont want to use two prompts
>>8146405why do some people call toddlers a loli
>>8146401>Why would you do thishttps://files.catbox.moe/7kkkch.png>>8146405To give you a vacation easier.
>>8146406Oh nice so I don't even have to worry about prompt editing? Okay I'll give it a go after my bake finishes.
>>8146405Because regards on x are so addicted to canceling and moralfrogging that they are willing to call a grown woman a child because she isn't endowed.People who say that shit are children mentally.
>>8146405IDK could you ask jannies that? They seem to have the same misunderstanding.
>>8146410daily reminder the australian goverment banned porn of women with small tits. unironically.
>>8146405pedos ruined most anorexic porn by using it as a scapegoat for their pedoshit, like how blacked cucks ruin orc porn by making it thinly veiled blacked porn. both can still be done right without the accusations but it's now a very thin line (no anorexic puns intended kek) because of all the bad faith genners
REFORGE ANONUI-CONFIG.JSON ISN'T WORKINGFIX IT
>remember saying I kept getting aco manfaces with pony way back>niggas didn't believe me>now they're having flaming melties over the factfeels good to be right
do i even bother downloading reweik 1.3 or do i keep using 1.2?
>>8146423i like it but i am not like most /h/arlots here
>>8146408>drag and drop img into ui for prompt>no resolution or lora info or model info just prompt shows up>prompt doesn't give me anything that looks even remotely like imgalright, i guess i don't even know the basics of this. Could somebody explain what im doing wrong?
>>8146431It's NovelAI.https://novelai.net/inspect
>>8145810>The way you can describe scenes on flux is something we could only dream of a year ago.example?
>>8146436I tried flux and it's a meme, it's basically just less censored dall-e
>>8146262followup on this, got an idea and in the middle of a batch it produced this retarded cat and i would like you all to have it
>>8146407don't get that eithertoddler: https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=10503648loli: https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=8786791NOT A LOLI BECAUSE ASS??? https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=10505908>>8146414unironically do the needful and kill yourself
CUTE AND FUNNYUNNY
Any good programs for mass downloading off of twitter? Artist I wanna make a lora of doesn't have any images on boorus.
>>8146443Japenis don't care about American obsession with trying to classify everything like it is a science
>>8146439example?
>>8146450Sketches for D&D characters. Exact same floating weapon issue I had with dall-e. Only difference was, again, that I could prompt cleavage and get cleavage.
>>8146452catbox?
>it's a meme>it's basically just less censored dall-elmao
>>8146448make a selenium script
>>8146453I didn't save anything because I didn't like it. There are free online generators for flux you can try if you want dall-e tier cleavage.
>>8146456>I didn't save anything because I didn't like it.a likely story
>>8146457Sorry to burst your bubble, "dall-e but less censored" doesn't impress me, when it has the same coherence flaws as dall-e.
bunny
>>8146460im sure
>>8146443it's hilarious because loli is broad term and different retards try to use it or rebrand it to cope or gaslight otherstoddler fags call their shit loli to sound less extreme, some loli fags are using "hebe" to differentiate oneself from the former and you end up in situation where for the same shit you can be called pedo or ironic redditor liking adult anorexic girls
>>8146460To be fair local dalle is inherently amazing, it's just not good at /h/... yet.
>>8146467>local dalle is inherently amazingfor realsies?
>>8146469If you had said told someone dalle would leak and we would be free to prompt locally 1 year ago people would have called you crazy. Even 6 months ago this would be true. It's a good day for sfw chads but this is /h/.
>>8146470it leaked? i didn't know this where?
>>8146467I'm sure it will be an improvement for coomslop once the pony equivalent arrives, it's just not revolutionary for regular use-cases like D&D character sketches imo.Well, actually, the ponyfag did make the miracle of relatively coherent hands half the time happen with proper tagging, so who knows.
loli's meaning is pretty clear
>>8146474If it's that so, then yeah, I am one. Are you mad about it?
>>8146465loli meaning has always been pre-pubescent body type (regardless of actual age) for all taggers. toddler is a subset tagged alongside loli on basically every site which has both tags. People calling "teen" or "petite" women loli have always been wrong.
>>8146474>google translate momentPedo gaslight>>8146479>People calling "teen" or "petite" women loli have always been wrong.How can Japanese people be wrong about the term they invented? Fucking Americans
>>8146483>term they inventedwhat? don't you realize the existence of the book from which this term comes?
>>8146479>oppai loli and babaloli enter the chat
My only pitch for NAI is that it is quite literally the ONLY commercial AI service that is 100% completely uncensored and has 0 restrictions on what you generate whatsoever. NAI never sees what you generate. None of it is saved on their servers. There is no way to report generations to NAI, not even on the user end (most AI services let you tattle on yourself if the generator makes smut if it wasn't asked to LMAO). This is true for their image and text generators. No other subscription AI service is like this. Every single one has restrictions. Even TEXT BASED generators! For that reason, I support NAI.
>>8146487Lolita is the nickname of the girl in the book, loli is the term invented by the Japanese.
>>8146488loliロリペドSexually explicit or sexually suggestive artwork of girls who appear to be preadolescent, regardless of canonical agelolibabaロリババアAn old woman with the body of a preadolescent child.oppai loliロリ巨乳Used when a female child or child-like character has notably adult-sized breasts, but otherwise retains their preadolescent proportions.It's really not complicated.
>>8146474It's a complement.
>>8146494>DanbooruYou're not even trying.
>>8146490invention is a big word for removal of two lettersbut i guess similarity of those two words it's just pure coincidence
>>8146499>"Lolita", the Spanish diminutive for Dolores.The girl's name is Dolores. Are you a fucking retard or just American?
>>8146500are you on drugs?
>>8146501Does "Dolores" mean "little girl" in any language, you fucking ape?
>>8146496You can pick whatever favorite booru you want. Dan, Gel, Sankaku, even sadpanda. Definition for loli will be same on all of them.It's always pre-pubescent body, but you can continue coping if you'd like instead.
>>8146503We don't give a shit what Americans think "loli" means.
can you just stfu and post cunnies?
>no good gens or people using the same style for monthsits over...
>>8146502book called "Lolita" is all about the dude wanting to fuck 12yo, it has nothing to do with term "loli" all about sexualized depictions of young girls>Does "Dolores" mean "little girl" in any language, you fucking ape?do you have a stroke?
Getting a wet skin effect without it looking as if the character was dumped into oil is a hard balance.>>8146498I like how the nipples here look.
>>8146508>sexualized depictionDid you get this from Twitter? You fucking monkey.
>>8146511genuine question what's you point and why are you seething? I just pointed out that this term stems from the book and you went on a meltdown
>local still can't do this>people tried last thread and were humiliatedit's over...
>>8146521thats not your gen :)
>>8146526No shit, retard? Did the twitter filename and dejected tone clue you in? Obviously I'm a local user disappointed in what's available.
It is what it is.
>see a gen of yours on aibooru>it's one-click slop you didn't give a second thought, never the gens you really likedwhy?
>>8146528>wahh wahhh wahh i have a skill issuehmmmm
>>8146533This but also OP images
>>8146534>0 argument>can't prove me wrong>s-skill issueCope
>>8146538cant wait for you make the same post againhave fun with that lol
>>8146541>>8146542LMAO
uh oh melty...
Why do people bicker so much and post no gens...
>>8146546people want to feel superior about their ai slop because they have nothing else in their lives
>>8146546wheres the pussy?
>>8146521Sadly true. That level of detail is beyond pony and pony is the best we have.
>>8146518You really should learn to shut the fuck up if you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.Loli is derived from lolita complex, which yeah, stems from the book. Every word etymologically stems from something, that's how language works. Doesn't mean the Japanese didn't invent the term "loli", because they did, because nobody before that ever used the word "loli". I hope it's obvious that "loli" is gibberish in Spanish, it's not even a loanword.Even if "loli" was invented by the book in some alternative universe, just to humor this train of thought: as you've pointed out, the girl Dolores is 12 years old; in other words, she's pubescent, not prepubescent, in fact this is what the term lolita complex refers to: attraction to pubescent girls.It's a good thing then that "loli" has become divorced from "lolita complex" in meaning. As the pedo gaslight shows, it can mean both prepubescent, and pubescent, that's how Japanese people use it. We know this because of the abundance of evidence in how Japanese people use it, everything from seiyuus on talk shows like the Oreimo VAs (from that one legendary clip discussing a fan's letter) to Japanese artists talking about characters (such as, to name relatively recent examples, Tatsumaki from One Punch Man and Rebecca from Cyberpunk Edgerunners.)In summary, you really should learn to shut the fuck up if you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
>>8146551local will never reach this level of blur its a damn shame
>>814655090s PC98 censorship. Please understand.
>>8146553kek, cool essay anon, just realized that you are seething about 8146479, which wasn't my post, I was just talking about term origin, and you are committing friendly fire right now
>>81465708146479 didn't say anything wrong. The meaning of "loli" is only a point of debate for American retards, which his post points out.
>>8146528I don't get it. Plug this into controlnet and get 200 variations on your perfect pose, what's the issue?
>>8146546i'm too busy autistically recreating a character's underwear in koikatsu to gen
>>8146574>thinking it's about the pose and not the extensive detailsimpleton
>>8146578>extensive detailHang painterfags
>>8146572Erotic. Catbox?
>>8146579>ME ONLY NEED STICKMAN! ME GET OFF GOOD!God, please kill this man.
>>8146490Protip, if a word is written in katakana it's a borrowed word.
>>8146582Yes faggot, I fell in love with hentai precisely because it's not realistic. Death to painterfags
>>8146581https://files.catbox.moe/gttvwv.png
>>8146553So did nips "invent" pasocon too? This is like saying gamers invented DLC because they didn't want to say the whole thing.
>>8146550Flux gen
>>8146584Neko is not a borrowed word, and most often written in katakana. ネコ. Stop saying dumb things.
>>8146587You fell in love with hentai because you have room temp IQ. You don't even need AI, go draw stick figures on one of the napkins your retard handler provides you to clean the drool off your desk.
>>8146593>猫You're being a retarded faggot so here's your last you.
>>8146589Pasocon is a loanword, retard.>>8146596You're not even trying.https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%8D%E3%82%B3
>>8146588nice nips
>Retarded ESL doesn't know what a personal computer is.
>>8146588is that monogatari style on civitai by chance? id like to get a copy
>>8146587Not him, but I think equating realism with level of detail is wrong. I also think that the only real weakness in pony is level of detail which is precisely why no loras ever quite get it THERE wherever it is that people disgruntled with pony want it to get.
>>8146603>the only real weaknessdelusional and its related to xl not pony
>>8146605NAI is XL.
>>8146600ty anon>>8146602I extracted a lyco from this model https://civitai.com/models/54867?modelVersionId=539850I can upload it you want
>>8146607and it has a low level of detail, whats your point?
>>8146610Sure it does, sweety, though I'm not even going to continue with retarded bait like that.
>>8146615show me proper writing in nai
Is there a reforge compatible extension that lets me queue up several generations with different prompts? I want to try variations on a prompt while I do other stuff
>>8146609Yes, please do
>>8146602>>8146609Okay I uploaded it, it's heavy asfhttps://mega.nz/file/t4YThTIZ#j-vBFhkjVcjpdOLVe6iWGStp7ma2P9ZBON4imuc6UUY
>>8146617>show me something a model trained on booru tags was never trained to reproduceThat's a great argument.If you compare the clean detailed artist mixes of nai (not the retarded melting ciloranko ones all over pixiv) with flux at the same resolution, even flux will get mogged. Flux has an upper hand in comprehension, not in LoD. Though I'll give you the fact that it's SURELY possible to train a bigger model to produce better detail than NAI. Obviously. Doesn't excuse the pathetic LoD of pony that uses the same exact architecture.
>>8146489NAI is ok, did write the odd fanfic with its help, does sometimes spitball cool plot developments and ideas (Having no positivity bias or censorship and being heavily/preeminently trained on literature really plays into this strength). It is relatively dumb and has trouble following more complicated plot-lines, meaning it needs a good bit of hand holding from the user. Then again Opus also has trouble with complicated plot elements, though it only needs minimal help; Author notes, summaries, maybe a little nudge on what you expect to happen, while with NAI most often than not you have to write that part of the story yourself.Can only recommend the subscription if you plan to use their ImageGen services too, which is quite good.
>>8146624>1gb>heavywhere i come from 1gb is chump change but thank you
>>8146630>two molesat least eyes are right
>>8146630Is this style intended to look like a 2.5d gen with a 2d face pasted onto it?
>>8146431if you see a good anime gen with rich color palette - its probably NAI
>>8146636When you're used to ponyslop anything with decent lighting and contrast must look 3dBut I am using used mixed media, photo background, and photorealistic tags
>>8145682nice!! Thanks! And I thought I had a lotYou unlocked the catboxhttps://files.catbox.moe/ox2ukc.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/jhmf2d.png
>>8146643That was a long-winded way to say yes.
>try reweik>output barely changeuh?
Any hope for a hentai Flux finetune?
>>8146643>>8146630damn brat https://files.catbox.moe/ijutj5.png(yeah, lack of whatever the fuck this is https://arxiv.org/abs/2305.08891 (zSNR, vpred) in pony is grim)
>>8146657It's a SDXL problem in general, not only pony. NAI said that they found their own way to unfuck it when they trained the model.
>>8146671They also said they would release how they did it but i'll guess it will come out right after wdv
>>8146656In a year.
I got worse results with a batch size of 2. Is going 1 by 1 a better method?
>>8146677i mean wdv is training on cosxl anyway so whatever. it's the ponyfaggot who doesn't care if the model comes looking like no contrast sepia
>>8146680One time I almost went insane because I wasn't able to 1:1 replicate an old ass gen of mine. It turned out that batch size was at 2.Since then I ALWAYS keep batch size at 1 for EVERYTHING.
>>8146686I was making a joke about wdv never coming out and nai never releasing their paper on how they unfucked xl
>>8146687nta but I dont get how this shit work, like how is batch size influencing gen, seems like a massive mistake on the webui
Besollo! Just saw your Houtengeki lora. Nice work. Any chance you could rework on your jcm2 lora? Yours has too many different styles mixed in.
>>8146625Hey, ciloranko's not bad, just overused. And pixiv fags don't really care about details, inpainting and refining gens most of the time. Spamming 40pic galleries of fotm girls is the meta.
>>8146691Ciloranko the Overexposed
>>8146657extremely based
>>8146706How do you find all these loras? It just seems like such a time consuming process.
>>8146706What do you think about the other version of reweik? I was looking for a more colorfull model than autism but im getting kinda similar result with v12
>>8146708I quite literally only have 5 style loras at most, I just the mix them at different weights so each mix is clearly distinguishable from each despite using the same loras>>8146709>What do you think about the other version of reweik?Saw the author mixed it with 3dpd and I lost any interest on it
>>8146711Guess i'll try v11 then
Now that I think about it, is there a Riichu style out there yet?
I've gotten a basic idea of mixing loras and using BREAK to make things look nicer, but what's the point of using hires fix over just increasing the resolution I'm genning at? I assume its more efficient to use hires fix? oh and if anyone has a good upscaler to recommend for autism confetti that'd be great.
>>8146717style lora*
>>8146625Flux has really high level of detail with realism gens, it's just that the anime style it has baked in is basic.
>>8146718you are misunderstanding how the ai create your picture, tldr: base resolution outside of what it was trained for will give inconsistent/bad result
>>8146718>what's the point of using hires fix over just increasing the resolution I'm genning at?Unless you are using RAUnet you should stick to the proper standard SDXL resolution, otherwise you are going to have bad/weird compositions or body horrorsYou use hires fix after you find a good base gen (with a proper resolution) and then if you care about it, inpaint the little details to make it look better
>>8146722>>8146725Oh okay that makes a lot of sense, thanks.
>>8146699It's pretty good. I lost all interest in shitter finetunes after flux dropped. I simply don't care about bakes on these inferior models. Cascade, cosXL, auraflow. All shit.
>>8146727>nogenclassic
>>8146727This, it's so fucking good!
>>8146727flux is really good
>>8146699Only titties can be gened rn. But its not even in anime style.
I'm amazed how some stupid screenshots or 3dpd "le heckin reactino" images can stay but when someone posts a nostril it gets jannied immediately
>>8146743I've tried to get flux to work in anime style, chill
if huge breasts=true sagging breasts yes or no?thoughts?
>>8146745depends, both can look good
>>8146718
>>8146746Based Korraposter but>off-model
>people getting paid $40+ per lora>make the customer provide the pics for the dataset>run autotagger and don't even proofread>train at bs8 and finish in 30 mins>only amount of work you do is check a couple epochs for broken hands which doesn't matter that much anywayWhen will civit shut down?
>>8146727this honestly especially since they will most likely use the dogwater stability vaes instead of training their own like nai
>>8146756Is training vae that hard? I feel like its been a bottleneck for a while
>>8146750Its milf Korra
>>8146760the problem is probably that there is not really any easily tunable tool to train like sd scripts, so you would have to go low level to design itand also that you have to retrain the model since the weights are based on the vae it was trained with + a decent amount of data to train the vae itselfidk why the chinamen dont train their own and instead piggyback off of sdxls
>>8146771fuck, imagine if we had real contrast in our gensfuck
>>8146773wyd? as in make the girls complete different?
>>8146771can you add a strong blur filterthe lines are too clean
>>8146774nah, i mean bright/dark contrast, which pony can't do. gen is good, tools are fucked>>8146643
>>8146773retarded take, the pastel colors look good here
>>8146777Oh, I agree, shading is fucked up but is something that I have given up even on my NAI gens>>8146776Like? it was just a pass with anifilm at x1
>>8146782>Like?you respond to blur shitposter
jesus christ months pass and you braindead fucks still talk about same shit, muh blur muh contrast muh paypigs muh aco mu sepiaeven the ultimate flux hentai finetune won't save this shithole
>>8146787watcha want to talk about bud? I'll chat.
>>8146787>nogenhilarious
>>8146790is it adorable at least?
>>8146787tsmtso glad i got an invite to the 'cord
>>8146787b-chama...
>have to "fix" dataset captions specifically for ponyCan't wait for a replacement, whatever it is
>>8146797you are just asking for bleed on your lora by doing this
>>8146677They retrained it on vpred and terminal noise.
>>8146798it's a style, so if anything should remove bleed by not training the things the model already recognizes. Same as when you tag "white background" and then don't overfit on white backgrounds.
https://rentry.org/resonance_cascadefundraising campaign page is 404, did they stop gathering funds?
>>8146806They stole the money!!
What's the reason why I can't reproduce my gens 1:1? People used to meme about loss of memory. How does this even happen?
>>8146067>>8146073>>8146089>>8146102reweik bros.. I'm warming up to 1.3
>>8146812damn mario got fat
>>8146075Align Your Steps. Just use the regular one. There's like 40 versions of it. 25 - 30 steps works wonders.
>>8146812is that a mexican dude
>>8146812I see the inpaint halo, what was the base gen like?Nice meaty pussy and breast shape by the way
>>8146275aye
i made a mistake
>>8146823how big was the image
>>8146813>>8146815Mamma mia, cabron.>>8146816Left hand had the usual extra finger gacha and her right arm showed a slight bit of forearm. I actually didn't touch vagoo AT ALL but had to sketch as I could not get this fucker to straighten the glans with regular inpaint.
>Week 3>Still haven't cleared the Savage tierI want to unsub.
>sketch bros winning as usualI really need to learn to draw.
>>81468241216x832 upscaled by 1.5
>>8146832why would that need so much vram
>>8146833i dont know and thats what im trying to figure out. something is wrong somewhere in this spaghetti
>>8146829Dunno how to draw for shit, brother. Just mushroom shaped it as best I could with a slightly different shade and got lucky. Had to switch to "fill" for it as original was dead set on trying to wedge the tip in and giving the illusion his cock was shaped like a horseshoe or some shit. I'm genuinely shocked whenever inpaint manages to form the blobs of shit I give it into what I want.
>>8146829its not hard to shit out color blobs in photoshop anon
>>8146812>>8146815the lamp
>>8146829Why do you need to learn how to sketch when AI can sketch for you?
>>8146828fore armussy
>>8146812we went from reweik looking animeish to reweik looking like typical sepia autismmix sloptruly a downgrade
>>8146851>sketched the wood structure behind the girlbaka senpai
>>8146864Appreciate your observation. It's probably easier to clean than to sketch it yourself. Just grab a clone tool.
>>8146862Lora dependent. That's Fiz and Dango so you're not going to get flat anime screencaps, anon.
>>8145596Are there any advices to make pussy super detailed? Jeneral style has only one bad implementation on Civitai, and Adetailer doesn't give real results
>>8146878upscale or inpaint
>>8145673Good job, saw your other posts you-know-where. Been jerking to ai shit for the last 3 days, got it to work thanks to your advice. Still have a lot to learn tho.
>>8146878Put "pussy, clitoris, uncensored" in the positive prompt, and "censored, bar censor, mosaic censoring" in the negative prompt.
>>8146891"urethra" as well
>>8146886this anatomy would be hilarious if she stood up.
>>8146546This place doesn't like text gens?
>this time I'll give you Stan LeeMy nigga went out on top
>>8146894At this point I feel like not knowing anatomy is essential to enjoy ai shit
What the sigma?
>>8146899This goes for any 2d shitanyone saying otherwise is coping
>>8146902unless you trace :)
>>8146902Good to know
>>8146901what kind of model is that? why are they using a bunch of hashed tags?
>>8146901I thought kohya doesn't support wildcard training for SDXL.
is it worth it to train the text encoder at all? any specific blocks for it?
did this guy delete all his loras or civit shits itself again?https://civitai.com/user/zombocrombo
>>8146926Nah everythings gone on my end
>>8146926seems like he moved to a different accounthttps://civitai.com/user/Malebolgia/models
what should I do differently when training style loras? my character ones turns out just fine, but my style ones seem to fry a bit without making it closer to the style
>>8146933>legoman zeldaI missed this autistic bitch like you wouldn't believe
does anyone else ever notice controlnet fucking up with highres? I get better results disabling the controlnet on the image before upscaling
>>8146936test (and use) without score tags, first offtag stuff betterif those don't help, add an activation tag
>floral design prompt gives demon a Hawaiian shirtKinda based, young woman
>>8146946now I want to see the demon just trying to chill on the beach while the girl keep harassing him to get fucked
Twintail edition.
>>8146953>girl
>>8146960uh oh
>>8146960you can literally see her pussy in picture
>>8146970thats perineum>>8146972fake
>>8146925No. The only thing training the TE does is bake in style for some reason.
>>8146973>thats perineumim not talking about the flowers on the shirt
>>8146828i somehow manage to clear it week 1 in pf. what i did was going to partys that was going on same mechanic as mine or after it
>add nai opossumachine tag>body type immediately shifts to young loli even without any tags like "loli, flat chest"I wish I didn't like the result
>>8146892"hymen" as well!
>>8146985dont forget ovaries
>>8146350Artist testhttps://files.catbox.moe/lj61v2.jpg
>>8146994whats with the qos stuff
>>8146995interracial/ntr thing
>>8147000he's asking why is that filth there
>>8147001I think dark-skinned female makes it easier to observe the difference in colors and not just drawing style if that's what you're asking
>>8147005based
>>8147001Well, why wouldn't it be
>>8147001it is one of the best lora tests as a bad lora will have the symbol look like its just photoshopped ona good lora will have a nice textured spade applied on the skin
>>8147009this, qos is just very hot fetish as well
what's equivalent of qos for bleaching?
>>814688710/10
>>8147012i thought it was queen of hearts
>>8146994>>8146995My prompt had 'photo \(object\), queen of spades symbol'I used a wildcard to get a random prompt from one of the booru cards I have and that's what I got.
>>8147025queen's back!
>>8146994now do it on neta2
Speaking of Neta v2I think it should be possible to merge it with Pony, because Neta v2 keeps its artist knowledge in the Output 1 blockWhile reweik at the very least has a lot of anatomical knowledge in blocks Input 7, Input 8, Middle 0 and Output 0I'm doing some experiments and I'm seeing potential, but my GPU is so slow it's going to take me forever to find the right valuesSo maybe someone else with experience with model merging could look into this as well?
>>8147039So what I think should work is block merge Reweik into Neta v2, only keeping Output 1 for Reweik and then replacing the rest of the blocks or at least most of them with Reweik
I want to cum inside anime girl
>>8147042based
>>8147042M-mods..
>>8147028never left
>>8147049>>8147025pumping
>>8147042how would you do that
>>8146984some artist tags are really strongtry yamamoto souichirou
>>8146984i see this as absolute win
>>8147041>only keeping Output 1 for ReweikFor Neta you mean?Also is this for gradient merge, Dare or just a simple block merge? And what about the TE?
>>8146901>>8146906those are style hashes being used as wildcards for a style lora. the idea is that you take a random token that influences the style but shouldn't and insert it into your prompt, so the LORA learns to ignore the styles that astralite randomly baked into various tokens. copyright tokens work better though>>8146912it works fine
>>8147058Yes I miss typedI was testing a simple block merge in Comfy and it was giving me relatively good results, I was getting vastly better posing while still retaining style albeit slightly smudgier Which is when I started testing DARE MBW block merging but apparently it doesn't work as it should in Comfy https://github.com/54rt1n/ComfyUI-DareMerge/issues/12I think if someone with a better GPU than me, has Supermerger set up in A1111 or Forge and could do some experiments we could maybe have something usable
Whats the secret of small ponyXL LoRA sizes I seen some at 54mb some in the around the 100mb range
>>8147063My schizo notes if anyone's interestedneta:input 4: door, door, some figureinput 5: door, door, figure turned into a girlinput 7: door, lobby, a diplomainput 8: a girl sitting, girl sitting, a girl recliningmiddle 0: door, door, some figureoutput 0: a girl standing doing more of the right pose, a girl standing doing more of the right pose, a diplomaoutput 1*: a girl standing with more ciloranko style, a shiny room, a girl from behind with wlop styleoutput 2: door, door, same figure turned girloutput 3: door, door, same figure turned girloutput 4: door, door, same figure turned girloutput 5: door, door, some figurereweik:input 4: a girl standing, a girl reclininginput 5: same girl standing, same girl reclininginput 7: different girl standing, similar girl reclininginput 8*: random girl in the right pose, random girl in right posemiddle 0*: same girl as in input 4 standing, similar girl recliningoutput 0*: random girl doing the right pose, random girl doing right poseoutput 1: random girl standing, random girl reclining with right backgroundoutput 2: same girl as in input 4 standing, input4output 3: same girl as in input 4 standing, input4output 4: same girl as in input 4 standing, input4output 5: same girl as in input 4 standing, input4Now you all also know how fried Pony is, you get a random girl regardless of which block you call on
>>8147067how many seeds did you test this with?
>>8147031Why would I do it on some other model when I have already achieved what I wanted? knows vtubers, knows artists, does porn, does gens in weird drawing styles like oekaki, all loras work on it>>8147058NTA but if you want styles you usually have to commit to the TE that knows them. Pony TE has no idea wtf <insert random artist name here> is supposed to do I also find it easier to merge <insert pony related model here> into other models that know stuff rather than merging those models into pony. Pony models are too attached to their TE and that's what you have to get rid of so it cannot be the "base model" because it starts shitting out noise if you don't give it its TE. Just like a baby.Also, you might want to simply merge with AnimeConfetti. Seems a better fit for merging than all other stylized pony models with a single embedded style. When merging AnimeConfetti most of the anatomy was in IN0 and IN1 but it comes paired with thick lines.https://civitai.com/models/184813/animeconfettitunexl
I don't suppose that any of you gents managed to save the "Angel Academy's Hardcore Dorm Sex Life" lora published on civitain? It got removed too for some ungodly reason.---I managed to scrounge up 60 images, and now the damn lora is getting the drills right. In particular the side drills, which is making me very happy.
>>8147068my notes are just from 3, the commas are for a new seedSo >door, door, some figureare 3 different seedsOn Reweik I only noted down 2 So not a lot. I takes me like 2 minute to gen an image and I have to do it 11 times for each block. My GPU is too slow for this shit
>>8147069believe it or not, your aua gens look deepfried
>>8147055Cute, but very bad for backgrounds.
>>8147066Just keep the dim+conv sizes low, that's the only thing that determines size.Some people said it's better to train high then shrink the finished lora, I haven't tried. But there are also good ones trained small to begin with. Rustle and Asanagi were made literally on first week of pony release using SD1.5 settings, and they're still the best at like 70mb.
>>8147074ponytards when they see a color that is not a desaturated sepia tone be like:
>>8147074When you haven't seen black in 8 months, everything looks deep fried. It can be easily unfried.
>>8147080wow cascade finetune looks fantastic
>>8147079he just showed a saturated sepia though, you can't hide ponyslop if you try to merge pony with any model
>>8147084I don't know about pony. Go ask AnimeConfetti guy if he trained MoreConfettiAlpha0.3 on pony. Based on some lora tests, it is, but doesn't say anything about it. Therefore I cannot confirm or infirm that pony exists.About to try some cosxl too.
>>8147084it's fine, and even the only naifag we can spams sepia all day anyway, maybe it's just he influence of this place at this point
>prodigy keeps diverging and producing garbage no matter what d_coef i pick>adamw just worksDid we all fall for the prodijew scam?
>>8147093try CAME, but gotta adjust your lr a bit.
>>8147087you must be blind to mistake this look for anything but pony>>8147088learn english before posting here
>>8147087fumihiko does that to gens, yes>>8147098Not saying it isn't. The only recipe from the dude is probably from a past model but civitai is stupid and keeps the comments from all versions into the same space.>Chimera. Merged my CatEar and SDXL, then merged that with hakurei/waifu-diffusion-xl · Hugging Face, then trained for forever for 1.0. Then merged in Blue-Pencil @ .25, then trained a lot more. Every so often I'll fold base SDXL or wdxl back in and start training again. Dataset is a curated and growing selection of images from various artists and 30 or so pics of top 100 rated pictures for top 100 characters from Danbooru. I just recently had to restart from v.2 since I tried to up the learning rate, and ended up with completely fried images (identical tags would equal near identical images. :/)But all gens can look sepia and "like pony" without any pony in them. The style of pony is easy to replicate (picrel has no pony)
>>8147093garbage like its just a mess of pixels or just a subpar gen?
>>8147095How do I find this on bmaltis gui?
>>8147107Open an issue on his github
>>8147103Garbage like latent noise garbage, with loss either exploding or going NAN. Happens only on this current data set and I don't know why.
>>8147109Means prodigy set the LR too high. Either increase the batch size (and reduce quality) or gamble with a different seed.
cosxl wants to show off how good it is at making vantablackhttps://files.catbox.moe/fic4jp.png
>>8147107https://github.com/bmaltais/kohya_ss/pull/1811/You can try a pull but idk if it breaks some requirements, or you can manually edit the files
jordach is abandoning cascade and is now going to finetune flux nf4
What does it taste like?
https://civitai.com/models/642945/kaine-nier-replicant?modelVersionId=719152Didn't she have a dick in the game?
>>8147117chat is this real?
>>8147118english voice actor of misty and jessie died today
>>8147120No, but he'll train the 1b model to e15
>>8147121>english voice actor
>>8147120no, and TE training is finished so he'll finally start training the 3.6b model now
>>8147123TE is frozen already though, so 3.6b will start at some point soon. Well... Jordach said soon™...
>>8147118Do you really need a lora for dawn?>check model hash>he made an example pic using one of the catboxes I posted here yesterdayWill you tell us what loras you used for the model Konan?
>>8147127There'll be a flux finetune before that lazy fag even finishes caching latents
>>8147123>>8147126Good to know that the 3.6B bake is confirmed to be done with 8xAda6k instead of his single 1060 ti1B run to e15 will be baked in parallel using that one gpu
>>8145596last time you niggas slept on sdyou were generating 9 fingered beasts all through 2022I'm here to askany of you regards tried flux yet? 2 girls, Hatsune Miku with black ebony skin and patchouli from Touhou, miku's skin is black like an African. they are both dressed like sluts being forced into prostitution with mascara and elf ears and septum piercings. Miku had messy long hair blue eyes with horns and a tail. She has dragon scales on her arms. Patchouli is lightly pregnant with a flat tummy and is wearing a seethrough mesh bra with an with a tattoo on her exposed belly saying "Give me cock" and am ace of spades on her arm. she has messy long purple hair blue eyes pure white skin with dragon horns and tail. miku is trolling patchouli, standing behind her, rubbing her crotch from behind and grinning lewdly they are in a grimdark library with candles on the walls and high bookshelves in an old dark Victorian mansion filled with sex toys and objects like dildos. The room has a bright window up on high with a view of to the night beach at the sea of tranquility and vibrators everywhere, there are paintings on the walls.
>>8147121has penguinz0 weighed in on this earth shattering news yet?
>>8147129You don't need a LoRA but to get a stronger artstyle and more consistency a good LoRA can't hurt.
>>8147135You didn't post /h/ so you should already know the answer.
>>8147135Yes like 50 different people here already tested it, good morning to you too.Wake me up when there's an /h/ finetune.
>>8147135I'll use it when they embed an llm to translate from 'Mixu, me, sex, couch'to that novel that you wrote.
>>8146982The problem is my static raid days are Thursday/Friday/Sunday so I only have Mondays to raid in PF.I'm worried about future tiers because it's kind of shaky if we even clear this week. I ended up having to clear in PF for M3S week 1. Think I might clear on my own if we fail to clear on Friday.
>>8147141that's why I'm here. why hasn't anyone made one? it's been like 100 hours already
>>8147148kill yourself and fuck off tourist
>>8147144That's easier than finetuning flux. You can do that now unironically.
>>8145596Anyone able to tell what model this is? Tried mixing a bunch of ponyxl from civit but couldn't get anywhere near this type of style unless cheezing it with the (3D) tag and then it still doesn't look anywhere near this good. Must be like some sort of gook model or smth
>>8147156it's nai
>>8147156NAI. Just make an artist mix.
>babe wake up your daily shitpost just dropped
how much has changed since the pony/nai era a few months ago? nothing?anyway, i'm back to experimenting on pony tokens.i'm pretty surprised to find that pony has no awareness of simple color tokens like red, blue etc. how does that even happen? not that they have no effect, but they are very weak tokens compared to what they are supposed to represent..
>>8147144here's what it looks like without all the embellishments2 girls, Hatsune Miku and patchouli from Touhou, they are sluts Patchouli has messy long purple hair and pure white skin miku is trolling patchouli, standing behind her and rubbing her crotch from behind while grinning lewdly they have been forced into prostitutioninb4 anon says the most retarded shit of the century
>>8147157lmao that's NAI? Since when has that gotten this good? >>8147158Artist Mix off of who? I assume not the AI dude because Isn't training on AI Generated art a big no-no?
>>8147165With people getting more and more familiar with vibe transfer, I've started to care less about artist combos and more about collecting 100 pics from that guy and making style loras.
>>8147093>used prodigy for all my lora and it just werks>force to upgrade Kohya because some of bs>prodigy settings no longer work>copy settings as best as I can to new settings window>gives me errors or ugly thick lines for no reasonI hate fucking software updates. I hope random anon's adamw setting will save me. First time not using prodigy.
>>8147156It's nai, you can tell from the bad anatomy
>>8147168Any place you can upload or have uploaded the lora to? if you don't mind sharing?
why does it feel like 95% of the posts from the past few threads are from newfags who don't even have the decency to lurk for a weeki guess it's summer
>>8147172Not him specifically I'm just speaking generally. There's no use worrying about what he used just train on what he's posted. He's already done the work for you and fixed hands etc so you don't even have to worry about doing that in NAI. On the off chance they leave metadata in on pixiv you're still better off making the pics yourself since they usually don't spend anlas to enhance.
>>8147174Did look for metadata at the start just to peek at a model hash or something in case there was one, but nah all scrubbed clean. I'll go make a lora, thanks senpai.
>>8147165NAI3 is about a year old now...
>>8147178Been gone for a year, last time I did anything diffusion on local was this month of last year, SDXL just got around and everyone was still using 1.5. I've been catching up the last 3 days q.q
>>8147119Do you even need a lora for Kaine? I remember her working on base pony.But yes, she does.
>>8141983>I will try to gather newer style pics tomorrowDid I miss it?Lora:https://files.catbox.moe/gfny7x.safetensors Gave it a few tries. It has the silly faces and the body shapes, but style is weaker than I would've liked. Already doing 50% higher LR and 500 extra steps, on a fully synthetic dataset that's supposed to train very fast. So it feels like I can't go much further.Activation tag is "fizrot-dino". Had to use one, the dataset is biased towards loli so without one it just completely shut down when doing normal women. Still makes loli by default unless you prompt for something else. uoh of sorts: https://litter.catbox.moe/apeutx.pngOpen for feedback, I can retry tomorrow.
>>8147164boomer prompting porn makes me cringe. I mean the verb
>>8147180Box?
>>8146760The problem is that the current VAEs used some of the largest datasets possible, we're talking LAION tier with 400+ million images that someone would have to store and be willing to train on.
>>8146756>>8146760>>8146770>>8147186who tf cares about vaes lol they literally only change the color slightly
>>8147180SD 1.5 sovl? Why hasn't anyone's excellent skills translated well to SDXL?
>>8147182You can try doubling or tripling the step count. I usually do 3k steps at 100 pics which, at the time, people claimed was very high. I recently noticed that some loras were underbaked at 3k and I now do 6k and it everything comes out much better.
>>8147195>Why hasn't anyone's excellent skills translated well to SDXL?Wdy even mean by this
>>8147205What I mean is that SD1.5 generally looks worse/is much harder to wrangle than SDXL right? People seemed to pour their souls into their gens just to make something decent which looks better than default SDXL gens. Why don't they spend the same energy in their SDXL gens to make stuff like Saya anon?
>>8147195>>8147207where are your gens anon
>>8147207i know a couple of people who put a lot of work into their 1.5 gens that just started actually drawing instead of genning
>>8147210I'm not insulting anyone anon, I'm just pointing out that many people have months and months of experience but they don't really put that effort into SDXL, except for a few. I wish I could do what they did in SD1.5 so I could make backgrounds like that with pony for example but I'm relatively new.
>>8147163Unironically cascade (even 1b reso) understands colors much better. I tried blue pantyhose, light blue pantyhose, dark blue pantyhose and it produces different shades accordingly. Not to mention it can do more colors than pony, pony would just flat out refuse to do many. Weird stuff considering cascade 1b is shit otherwise.
>>8147214Pony can do turquiose and magenta, so I don't know what that proves.
>>8147190why dont u try encoding and decoding an image with a vae and say this again
>>8147195That's my latest one from Pony. One of my SD 1.5 was this>>8147185Metadata got scrubbed when I was doing spot cleaning in Adobe. D:>>8147207Lack of in painting support as far as I have read, been looking for better ways to inpaint with ponyxl but they all suck compared to SD 1.5. But Ponyxl brings tons of benefits over SD 1.5 as far as I have noticed with my prompts. But I also work like a long time on each one because inpainting and photoshop.
>>8147207Because pony plops an image whatever prompt you give it. Anons don't have to worry about prompting anymore because "1girl, sex" just works.
>>8147218Nice gens anon. Very inspiring.
>>8147207I have the exact same workflow as I did back on 1.5 days, hell, I even do the same kind of fucking slop, the thing is SDXL based models are fucking dogshit at backgrounds and vehicles on general, I haven't quite found a lora that can do backgrounds as nice as 1.5 models could1.5 slop>https://files.catbox.moe/z530oe.png>https://files.catbox.moe/pryp0m.pngtoday's slop>https://files.catbox.moe/lrqmw9.png>https://files.catbox.moe/trarad.png
>>8147203Might try that, maybe raise the LR again as well
>>8147223I miss 1.5 days like you wouldn't believe but we are trapped on pony hell for now, I really hope cascade can save us
>>8147223Have you given wordly or comix loras a try?
>>8147223It's pony-based, not SDXL-based. Animagine is pretty close to AOM-tier when it comes to backgrounds. So there must be others as well.
>>8147227Sounds like a job for refiner.
>>8147221Thanks! <3
>fang dong
>>8147218what an odd trollyou can image search both images and see theyre not yours lmao>>8147229also stolenand you just happened to lose metadata for all of them i bet
>>8147226wordly is kind of hit or miss for me, better than default backgrounds but not quite there like 1.5 models
>>8147231I did.
>>8147179Your cat is a cow.
>>8147232Quite there would be animagine with xl_more_art-full. That one is the most detailed up to fully realistic backgrounds.
>>8147238>Quite there would be animagine with xl_more_art-full.Alright, I'll give it a try later, do you perhaps have a link for those?
>>8147231>>8147235Not everyone lies on the internet anon have some faith in your fellow anons. T_T
>>8147242>heh i lost all my metadata :^)not sure what the point of this troll is
For how early into Flux training we are, it already looks pretty decent excluding the next to no lewd abilities. A lot of the loras out now were trained on less then 50 images so it seems to not need that much data to learn.I think we'll probably have an anime style NSFW finetune by the end of this year.
I don't like schizo backgrounds. They are far to complex for current models to handle and instantly expose a picture as ai. It's "simple background" for me until we get some 70B hentai finetune
>>8147243Because if you put image inside of photoshop, and then export out of photoshop, metadata goes poof. Majority of people don't retain meta-data because we spent the majority of time IN photoshop to fix issues. And if you are like me, you spend a lot of time overwriting your original file as you go from photoshop back to inpaint, back to photoshop back to inpaint, etc. Not a troll, just the truth.
>>8147248youd obviously have the prompt backed up somewhere so you could make more images retardyouve been exposed for being an AI image thief of all things lmao
>"pagan temple" keyword causes Pony models to start spewing gibberishThe fuck? Why???
>>8147249Mah senpai, I posted literally my Pixiv account.>>8147235It shows Following and Followers, that only shows to the person who owns the account. Are you stupid or smth?
>>8147236true
>>8147248Quite literally search on your output folder your base gen
>>8147190>t. retard
>>8147255disprove me tho
kyots
Trying to imitate other anon's characters is kinda fun.
>>8147262I think the face is a bit off
>>8147263Yeah, I just noticed. The upscaler fucked her face up big time.
anons he don't wanna his prompts because you might steal them and create YOUR OWN pixiv accounts, he's no better than /b/ grifter
>>81472643000x4000 y thoooo, this just a raw upscale since everything looks really smooth?
>>8147268are we finally back?
>>8147268aww he has cute little horse ears too
>>8147268cutie behind her
given immediate melanin-rich male response, does it means that this >>8147235 guy was infesting /hdg/ for 4 months with low quality squeezed groid gens?
>>8147267No idea. I set the upscaler to be x 4, but the original image had different proportions.
>>8147268what breed is he?
>>8147280hes half pony
>>8147268I have seen mares obliterate stallions when they don't like them.
>>8147257gg ez no re
>>8147285To explain. I took the original image, encoded it with the SDXL VAE, then decoded it. The result is the bottom. I put them in one image and upscaled them by 2x in case anon has bad eyesight.
>>8147259>>8147262>>8147279nice, you take the prompts from the besollo lora?