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Previous Thread: >>8142246

>LOCAL WEBUI SETUP
https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/wiki
Optimizations *NEW*
https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/pull/15821
https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/pull/15837
https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/pull/15824

>LOCAL FORGEUI
Maintained branch:
https://github.com/lllyasviel/stable-diffusion-webui-forge/tree/dev2

>LOCAL COMFYUI
https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUI
https://comfyanonymous.github.io/ComfyUI_examples/
https://openart.ai/workflows/templates

>LOCAL MODELS
https://civitai.com/models/257749/
https://civitai.com/models/288584/
https://gitgud.io/gayshit/makesomefuckingporn (use Wayback Machine) *OLD*

>PAID
NovelAI: https://rentry.org/hdg-nai-v3
NAI API/prompting in A1111: https://github.com/Metachs/sdwebui-nai-api

>RESOURCES
Features: https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/wiki/Features
Training: https://rentry.org/59xed3 | https://github.com/derrian-distro/LoRA_Easy_Training_Scripts | https://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainer
Tags: https://danbooru.donmai.us/wiki_pages/tag_groups | https://danbooru.donmai.us/related_tag
ControlNet: https://rentry.org/dummycontrolnet
IOPaint (LamaCleaner): https://huggingface.co/spaces/Sanster/iopaint-lama | https://www.iopaint.com/install
Booru: https://aibooru.online
4chanX Catbox/NAI prompt userscript: https://rentry.org/hdgcb
Pony-related: https://rentry.org/ponyxl_loras_n_stuff | https://rentry.org/ponyxl_lora_previews | https://lite.framacalc.org/4ttgzvd0rx-a6jf
EF+HLL: https://rentry.org/5exa3 *OLD*
Animation: https://rentry.org/AnimAnon *OLD*

OP Template/Logo: https://rentry.org/hdgtemplate/raw | https://files.catbox.moe/xk99gy.png | https://files.catbox.moe/35bdt5.gif

>Related
>>>/aco/sdg
>>>/g/sdg
>>>/g/ldg
>>>/d/ddg
>>>/e/edg
>>>/u/udg
>>>/vt/vtai
>>>/vg/aids
>>>/b/degen
>>>/trash/sdg
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>futa cocks make it into the OP
/d/ was a mistake
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Patiently awaiting the thread highlights to see if I can put another picture on my refrigerator.
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>>8145600
that aint futa though? dude probably has micro balls
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Top 10 highlighterinos:
>>8142334
>>8142369
>>8142545
>>8142722
>>8142798
>>8142823
>>8143102
>>8143647
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>>8145603
Here's one you can stick to your fridge right now
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>join the horsefucking discord to see if there's any progress being made on "pony v6.9"
>astralite has apparently abandoned plans to train sdxl again and now wants to use auraflow
>has spent thousands on captioning and hasn't even finished captioning 1/10 of the dataset
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>>8145613
jewish?
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>>8145613
vaxxed?
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>>8145618
comfy
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what would happen if you took a dataset with millions of images and just autotagged it? would the model be usable?
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>>8145617
Frankly don't care. Analyzing penises is gay anyway.
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>>8145626
I meant the eye stars looking like the star of david
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>>8145629
Ohhh. Now I see it too. Damnit!
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>>8145616
Doubt there's much improvement to be made on XL. At this point it would be competing not only with Pony but with six months of loras and merges.

At least he's doing something new, and not wasting donation money.
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>>8145605
>>8145600
Man's penis is coming out of his thigh he's a chernobyl descendant if anything
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>>8145618
Is that Dr Graevling? This really takes me back. I love this shit but if this isn't /aco/ I don't know what is.
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What models/vae do you guys usually use for training animu loras?
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Heard people mention using negative Vibe Transfer on NAI a while ago to get botched artists back on track by feeding it an example of that artist's earlier works, how do you do that? The docs don't mention it anywhere and I don't see any options for that either in the NAI extension nor on their website.
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>>8145650
The base of whatever model Iwant to use the lora on. What kind of question is that?
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>>8145660
Just write a minus sign in strength field. Don't expect sucha simple result though.
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>>8145635
AF has serious problems though, seems like a massive gamble. I guess we'll see.
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>>8145661
I guess the question is, what base model generally works the best for animu/hentai nowadays? I've been out of this scene for a year and don't want to use outdated models
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>>8145666
Check the OP.
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What's the best sd and loras to generate cute girls engaged with animals?
I get it's pony but maybe there's anything more specific (I'm using AutismMix mostly + a bit of T-ponynai3)
I'm very satisfied with results desu and anything Holo related is long time coomer dream
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>>8145673
Wrong thread
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>>8145673
my brother we dont accept /d/ here.
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>>8145596
>still haven't updated the op
>>8145675
Bestiality is \trash\ not \d\ actually.
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>>8145675
I don't see anything about bestiality in the rules.
Only loli/furry
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>>8145676
damn, beastiality bros don't even have a proper space for them huh?
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>>8145676
>>still haven't updated the op
we did a few threads back but a spitebaking fuck prevented it from catching on
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>>8145258
https://www.mediafire.com/file/1qnv8xf8c4sd837/ncaaoo33_XL_16E_GT_V0.5-000015.safetensors/file
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>>8145678
sadly /b/ is a better place for it, /trash/ is gross
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>>8145629
Apologies. No more stars. Maybe pentagrams.
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>>8145677
I don't really mind your pic but if we have to anal about it, there seems to be a loophole in here:
global rule #3:
You will not post any of the following outside of /b/:

Troll posts
Racism
Anthropomorphic ("furry") pornography
Grotesque ("guro") images
Loli/shota pornography
Dubs or GET posts, including 'Roll for X' images

and then on /aco/ rules:
Global Rule #3 is in effect. No anthropomorphic ("furry") or grotesque ("guro") images are permitted, and all images should depict "of age" participants. Images depicting bestiality, scat, or generally seen to be "extreme" in nature are not to be uploaded.

on /d/ its:
Images depicting bestiality, guro, scat, or generally seen to be "extreme" in nature are not to be uploaded.

so you could maybe infer bestiality is considered "extreme" content and can only be posted on /b/ and /trash/ i guess?
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>>8145689
Lolwat? How is trash more gross than b?
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>>8145684
nipple slip next time, please.

>>8145690
could add them on photoshop
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>>8145692
depends on if you think realistic cunny is more palatable then furries i guess
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>>8145692
the thread I just checked over there was full of furries so ill take my chances on /b/
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>>8145696
there's furries and ponies on /b/ as well actually
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>>8145694
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>>8145673
still better than being a nogen
good shit
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>>8145691
>bestiality is extreme
>shoving multiple futa horse cocks that each are larger than the girl's entire body up her asshole and pussy and filling her with a bathtub's worth of cum is normal
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>>8145695
>>8145696
Furries and ponyfags post on /b/ as well, but /b/ also has literal feds posting there and has much more schizophrenic atmosphere than /trash/. I can mentally filter out content I dislike just fine if it's not spammed, but there's much more schizo shit on b
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>>8145692
fuck off furry
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>>8145702
It's on the same level as loli due to the legal gray area around non-photorealistic images.
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>>8145691
Fuck I don't want to share my space with my cute consensual bestiality vanilla catgirls with fucking furry shit jesus christ
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No text highlights? Damn, I'm always looking forward to those
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>>8145711
use catbox then
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>>8145665
which one doesnt have serious problems? maybe flux, but the requirements are too steep a jump over SDXL
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>>8145711
Clearly your solution is making a human female/male animal bestiality AI general on trash
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>>8145711
you think too highly of your fetish.
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>>8145714
Is it alright if share it here via catbox then?
Am I not dodging rules in that case?
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>>8145719
Ofc because it's my fetish and I'm protective
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>>8145720
You might get banned if a jannie is having a bad day but it's rare, they don't usually police catboxes.
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>>8145720
>Is it alright if share it here via catbox then?
nogens will seethe but i wouldn't be bothered about them
>Am I not dodging rules in that case?
never seen someone being nuked over catboxed content https://files.catbox.moe/ke3ncl.png
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>>8145718
he could always make a treechan thread for it. kek
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>>8145700
yeah thats good
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>>8145728
>two assholes
oh no
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>>8145730
Double the fun
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>>8145728
holy mother of melty...
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>rebake lora to include a bunch of upscaled portraits
>no hands are included in these new images
>hands are now fucky vs fine before
aaaaaaa

>>8145442
>>8145448
>>8145455
>>8145484
thanks frens
& sorry if I wasn't much help with your lora in the end, but I hope you figured out something that works !
>>8145716
>but the requirements are too steep a jump
seems like optimizations are lessening these each day, definitely still a hefty fee for a full finetune. I'll need to upgrade my gpu if I want to bake flux loras, but it looks like people have already started on doing those locally, so that's nice.. obviously no replacement for a finetune, though
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxY1iXYBmlg&t=90s
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>>8145753
twp
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>>8145744
juicy trucy
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Well, the only issue I have is that animals look very dumb.
Still better than most that artists deliver.
https://files.catbox.moe/si9tz9.png
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>>8145760
i need a based check on this one, am i supposed to?
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>>8145760
This is prime /b/ material bwo, not even trying to shitpost here.
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No cock like horse cock
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at least the girl is cute
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>>8145760
Good addition to the catbox roulette. It's boring when it's only ever loli
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Has they made an anime hentai model fir sd3 yet?
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>>8145760
I really don't understand how monster sex is /d/ but this isn't allowed on /d/
like if you give a wolf a unicorn horn is it now /d/? is it only humanoid monster sex and tentacles? I truly can't say the distinction makes sense, it'd be refreshing to have compared to the endless shitty futa posts there
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>>8145769
no one, and I mean literally no one, in any community, anywhere, cares about SD3. anyone who did is now on flux
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>>8145770
It's about how close it is to realistic scenario, I think. It's the reason why loli triggers so many people while cub diaper scat unbirth doesn't.
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>>8145772
Then the same question but Flux
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I just uploaded my cheekbulge lora to civ for the anon who was asking for it
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>>8145776
>tiananmen bing chilling
My favorite artist!
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>>8145775
sadly no, it is brand new, we've just passed the optimizing it so it can run for vramlets stage, dipping our toes into 24gb vram can kind of train loras for it hour

I thought flux sucked ass looking through /g/'s gens but after trying it a bit myself, I actually pray it does get a hentai finetune. if not it, hunyuan I guess, since hunyuan already has a lot of anime/manga styles. hunyuan feels kind of sloppy around the edges though
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>>8145768
Well technically Chocolla is a loli
https://files.catbox.moe/rnmx5i.png
https://files.catbox.moe/wzz6sg.png
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>>8145772
Does that even having a training script available?
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>>8145774
Well anime catgirls are not even remotely realistic
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>>8145784
So it still doing the thing with sd of having multiple text encoders?
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>>8145775
it took something like six months for a good sdxl anime finetune to be released, i'd expect it to take longer for flux
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>>8145789
Catgirls might as well be humans with fake animal ears. It's far more grounded than let's say dragons
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>>8145775
one will inevitably happen, although the model requires much better captioning to make the most out of it. 6-8 months at LEAST
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>>8145786
it does, and it also has people baking loras already (though that's still in its infancy). problem is the cost is even more outrageous than SDXL. so it may be dependent on how much tech nerds can optimize it. illya made it run on 6gb vram devices, if similar magic can be made into a half-decent model then maybe loras and finetunes will be within local reach (24gb vram can already do loras, but limited). I'm not smart enough to understand how that kind of compression works/what kind of masochism has to be performed to teach t5 no-no words
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>>8145796
please dont tell me t5xxl doesn't know """unsafe words""" too
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>>8145783
him and the bbc artist mixes should get royalty at this point
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>>8145759
Best Ace Attorney girl by far
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You guys keep meeting larger and larger models , and maybey the models might be justified being that big to make rl pics but does anyone not stop and question maybey 2d generation might not exactly benefit from the direction current models are moving toward?
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>>8145793
It's just there such a big line separating idealistic fantasy bestiality when dogs are into girls, it doesn't look weird and forced, etc. And irl gross bullshit
https://files.catbox.moe/t0sjh3.png
https://files.catbox.moe/krdj9j.png
https://files.catbox.moe/pjxdbv.png
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https://files.catbox.moe/1nxfgg.png
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>>8145796
What is t5? The text encoder?
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>>8145804
get a job and learn english
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>>8145799
BBC being oppressed is actually sort of poetic hilarious
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>>8145804
For 1girl standing yeah, but if you want to create cool scenes with some action, flux is amazing.
The way you can describe scenes on flux is something we could only dream of a year ago. You can literally describe what girl1, girl2, girl3 looks like and doing, and it will understand that.
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>1girl, small breasts, wide hips, full-face blush, pov, huge penis, cum in pussy, neck grab
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>>8145810
>For 1girl standing yeah, but if you want to create cool scenes with some action, flux is amazing.
proof?
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Got the new fancy reforged installed and noticed there's a bunch of scheduler options available now. I've always done DPM++ SDE previously, but maybe there's better combinations?
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>>8145805
btw, If you go on huggingface and search around you should be able to find some loras to get some better beast stuff
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>>8145735
still using your 3k steps config, and this is the latest bake so far https://files.catbox.moe/s6w0d8.png
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>>8145798
I don't actually know, maybe it does know enough it can infer things without needing to re-teach it? I definitely don't have enough knowledge in that
>>8145806
yeah, basically, big diq te
>>8145804
I was adverse to flux originally and thought the amount of params wasn't necessary (maybe we could still do with less, really), but the gain in prompt comprehension is really insane. I tried genning the same prompt on SDXL vs hunyuan vs flux and no matter how I looked at it, flux blew them out of the water. It also didn't have any of the issues with items and things in the backgrounds being tiny, melted or hallucination nonsense things - it was all very clear and coherent. it might seem insignificant if all you want out of it is 1girl standing white background, but in general I can't see it being anything but the future right now. outside of that, though, improvements to local are truly bottlenecked by two things:
1) dataset (particularly captioning)
2) gpu (fuck nvidia)
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>>8145817
Mind sharing a link?
So far I've found https://huggingface.co/KappaNeuro/cute-animals
Need to degrade a bit more to get off from this

Here's personalami rendering, too bad she'd never do bestiality
https://files.catbox.moe/ly7e52.png
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https://files.catbox.moe/kophii.png
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>>8145596
It's so weird that AI can do Ishikei better than Ishikei himself nowadays, his art looks legitimately unappealing now. I know the dude's in his 50s now but still.
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>>8145824
that's what happens when you train something on curated works
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>>8145824
>It's so weird that AI can do Ishikei better than Ishikei himself nowadays
Just like abmayo
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>>8145741
best
image in the whole thread
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>>8145825
it's NAI
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>>8145822
https://huggingface.co/marasama

look through what this guy has posted he has a few
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>>8145818
>still using your 3k steps config
I wish I could tell you I knew which one that meant desu..
that looks great though, seems it understands her uniform and the hair is on point. happy to see you've been bakin', its weirdly fulfilling to make loras
>>8145824
he took a really weird turn, as if he's having an intern set everything up in vroidstudio then tracing over that or something.. it's uncanny and sovless feeling
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>>8145828
i'd recognize that pony plastic from a mile chud
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>>8145824
desu I never found his style to be appealing.
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>>8145836
wtf i said desu?
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>>8145836
don't worry, some people are just born with bad taste.
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>>8145802
definitely
athena is second
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>>8145838
cope impostor
>>8145839
cope
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>>8145810
Do you need to use vllms to train these?
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>>8145831
>seems it understands her uniform
there are more promptable outfits and wife in same lora aswel https://files.catbox.moe/vgschn.jpg
main thing with latest bake is close-up portraits with good iris in dataset specifically for adetailer runs so i wouldn't be redrawing them myself, so far looks okay, even though it requires gacha
>>8145847
miwiki...
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>>8145824
i would like to think that he's just not putting in much effort into most of his fantia posts while he works on the VN. his redraws have almost all looked pretty good imo and occasionally his original art looks fine as well
and then i see shit like https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/7926701 and wonder if he's got a brain tumor or something
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>>8145821
>yeah, basically, big diq te
Is it just one?
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>>8145826
>Just like abmayo
okay what the fuck happened to him, why miqu hair is so dull https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=10455437&tags=abmayo
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>>8145804
my plan right now is to continue my dataset experiments just on 1.5 on my home gpu refining my approach. Then when I get my Christmas bonus drop 2k on compute and applying what I learned on whatever looks to be the best model for it December.
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>>8145859
>1.5
genuinely bad idea considering so much has changed
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Can someone try doing small breasts, (loli:-1) with negpip? I'm trying to see if it's working correctly for me because it's making the girl more loli not less.
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>>8145865
I see that as an absolute win
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>>8145829
Thanks.
Looks like it made dogs more stable
Far easier to do french kissing/tongue play

https://files.catbox.moe/s9ho5k.png
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this slider had decent effect in an attempt to make male subjects less homogenous:
https://civitai.com/models/481221/muscle-slider-pony
on a modest negative value, the forearm, hand, thigh and torso of the male subject looks a bit less regular pony and had negligible impact on style
also negpip (muscular male:-1.1) seemed much more effective than the same tag in negative prompt
some cumulative bleed onto female subject, which i worked around in this prompt with (abs:0.25), small waist

also using separate prompts for base model and refiner, refining at step 20 of 30, gives finer control over final shading
https://litter.catbox.moe/76uk0d.png
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>>8145865
>it's making the girl more loli not less.
good
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>>8145804
Bigger is better. Simple as.
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>tell myself I wont jerk off today
>do some gen for fun
>jerk off
Why am I like this, legit no self control
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>>8145860
nta but literally nothing has changed architecture-wise
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>>8145865
i think just introducing a concept in the positive prompt can make it more prominent in the gen even if you're weighing against it.
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>>8145867
>>8145871
Sure but I still need to know if the extension works. You'd think real loli enthusiasts would want to discriminate between small breasts and true loli. Take this as a peace offering and test negpip please.
https://files.catbox.moe/xnvuga.png
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>>8145874
>>tell myself I wont jerk off today
when i remember that i haven't jerked off for several days it means i'll ruing my streak today
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>>8145877
nothing is perfect
negpip can be stronger than negative prompt
it can also be less consistent, i think it varies from gen to gen depending on which vectors you're already engaging
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>>8145875
yeah bro no differences between 1.5 and flux! literally nothing :)
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>ET found his way into the images
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>>8145880
>>8145876
Yeah maybe it's just that loli is a strong tag. Oh well I'll just increase the weight in negative prompt as usual then.
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Alright people I've been checking the neggles/neurosis leak pretty studiously and I've arrived at the realisation that it's mostly just repackaging existing open source libraries (see lpips, dreamsim, etc.) into his own stripped down repository.
The guy can refactor like a machine but I doubt much of this is hand written.
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>>8145887
>neggles/neurosis leak
wat
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>>8145893
wdv training code got leaked
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>>8145894
>leaked
hasnt neurosis been up for a long time publicly
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>>8145887
Jordach won
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>>8145893
https://archiveofsins.com/h/thread/8090201/#8093354
it's the version that had somehow had some of NAI's training code in it.
imagine that, having access to NAI's codebase and doing nothing useful with it
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>>8145901
>it's the version that had somehow had some of NAI's training code in it.
it had the tag count loss from the initial NAI leak, which was removed. everything else is the same.
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>>8145901
And the rest of it:
https://github.com/neggles/neurosis

If you like mass copy-pasted-refactored modules, you'll find it interesting.
I don't think it does anything original.
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>>8145872
No it isn't
You use the right tool for the right job
You can even experiment and see for yourself
Get a perceptron to map a simple function , say a sine function.
Train it then a version of it with more layers and or neurons per layer keep doing this and
Up to a certain point it won't converge or just take and ungodly long time to with no benefit because the search space is way too big for what you want it to do .
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>>8145901
that's not a leak, that's just a backup from a version of neurosis that was publicly available on github until it got a takedown request by nai
and that particular code was from the nai leak 2 years ago like the other anon said
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in previous gens skinny tag didnt do much to the male subject, but in tandem with negative muscle slider, (muscular male:-1.1) i think it further shifts the male away from normal pony fare, while also counteracting some of the above things' bleed onto the female subject
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>>8145870
>>8145916
Never really cared that much for the male (people here even laugh at me for wanting non pov) but thanks for your tests anon.
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>>8145916
the only role hairless skinny males should have in porn is being cucked
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>>8145921
im just tired of genning the same damn forearm and hand

>>8145924
hair is a relatively independent variable. hairy male at full power has some bleed into overall male size but it's still less generic and im confident can be tuned further
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also this lora is quite based
https://civitai.com/models/623923/drool
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>>8145929
>>8145916
>ruining the fat bald ojii-san economy
The one thing I had to look forward to in my old age
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>>8145854
Being turned into loras sucked out his soul. Many such cases.
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>>8145936
>loras steal a bit of artist's soul
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>>8145936
>Wasting time in "AI bad" twitter echochambers sucked out his soul. Many such cases.
ftfy
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>>8145937
the alignment of circuitry in mimicry of your life's toil creates a reflection of your aetherial form, and weak souls find themselves divided between their flesh host and the machine host
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>>8145905
That's the case for tiny toy models. We're not gonna be able to come even close to compressing all of the boorus into a few dozen GB. Of course your arch also has to be not braindead.
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>>8145940
kinda beautiful statement.
reminds me of that one kikuo song
"When people put their hopes and feelings in things, their souls cross over and dwell in them, since they’ll last forever."
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Can anyone give me a set up for a anime illustration style?

>3090 gpu (24 vram)
>intel i5 12400
>32 ram

I currently have reforge (I think?) installed with the models PDv6 and autism mix which work and give me gens. what I am trying to avoid is colors and style like

>>8145632
>>8145618
>>8145681
(no offense no hate, great art just NOT what i want)

but it is giving me kinda a 3dish look. i want a hard matte manga/anime illustration look like pic related. I can't figure this shit out and I did see people posting elsewhere, So i know it exists. Could anyone please spoonfeed me cause I've been at this for like 6 hours now.
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>>8145956
put a lora or two on
civitai, log in for all the good shit

for flat styles, too many to say really. flat sketchy, moe, pastel, etc. there are literally many thousands of single options and innumerable combinations.
Just be careful with how you apply loras, most are not well made, go into each assuming it's done poorly and mix weights accordingly.
If you really wanna burn time, start fixing loras by stripping them down and resizing.
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>>8145854
>Started doing migu sex
>Ended up making her a furry, giving her a penis, and, hell even forget about her 01 number mark in her left arm on half of his drawings
Why is it always like this
This is no longer a wifelover, but just a degenerate who uses miku like his plaything for all the effortless garbage he wants to make
This dude DOES NOT represents us TRUE wife lovers.
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>>8145956
base pony and autism are old and busted especially for anime
try reweik, wai ani, or anime confetti
flyx3 mix is also good if you think you like more retro style
there's a lot more options open to you in terms of loras, refiners, prompt structure, blah blah blah but just using one of the newer anime checkpoints is a good start
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>>8145949
Sexy.
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>>8145804
Localjeets when playing with garbage xl sepiaslop:
>dont want to gen on pony? you must be poor!
Localjeets when flux drops:
>wait stop go back, not like this!!!
Are the majority of 1.5/pony users really poorfags running 4gb vram 1660 cards? I always though the idea was that if you're doing local you go all in (24gb vram, lora training, rapid iteration, batch sizes, insane upscales, etc). What's the point waiting around 3+ minutes for a shitty 1024x1024 toonslop gen from pony? That sounds fucking awful, just buy a sub at that point.
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>>8145967
nta but you should probably provide names in full for these models considering the guy is new
there's a billion anime confetti models
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>>8145956
pretty much what >>8145963 said.
login to civit.ai and find some loras of styles you like. you can filter in the top right and just select 'Lora' and 'Pony' filters. then you can filter to only show you style at the top of the page by clicking 'styles' . you can mix and match some loras as well. your other option is to get another checkpoint that's based off pony and is just merges of loras and other checkpoints.
then you can also use negative prompts for stuff like 'vivid, high contrast, etc' as well as postive prompts like 'pastel'.
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How to get rid of that oily, shiny, smeary look of pony skin? Any magic tags? I've tried the skin highlight lora and various combinations of score tags/no score tags but had no luck
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>>8145982
example?
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>>8145982
shiny skin in negs?
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>>8145956
Just sub to NAI.

t. shill
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>>8145982
>>8145972
>>8145989
Aren't you bored of this shit? Go back to /v/ faggot
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>>8145983
>>8145984
already doing that
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>>8145992
The first too are a different shill. Don't lump me in with them.
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>>8145963
>Just be careful with how you apply loras, most are not well made, go into each assuming it's done poorly and mix weights accordingly.

I'm assuming you mean when I use a lora the style is "right" but everything else goes to shit like pussies and anatomy in general? Because, while I did see the colors and shading turn ...better, it made some of the most monstrous body horror I have even seen ai spit out. Faces were also pretty fucked and but i only tried like 2 "loras". So, yea, I'm holding off on experimenting with those a for a bit

>>8145967
>>8145974

give it to me straight, can I get pic related style without going through another six hours of research and testing? Any models you guys have that just "work" for this? A lot of the preview images still have a realistic lighting like civitai.com/models/311817/anime-confetti-comrade-mix
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>>8145851
it has t5 and clip_l but you can choose not to run both of them. its not really as retarded as SDXL's 2 clip TEs which feel pointless imo. you can try their schnell ("fast") version on huggingface: https://huggingface.co/spaces/black-forest-labs/FLUX.1-schnell
(I've only tried prompting with nat language not sure how it does with booru tags)
keep in mind it's stylistically hideous in almost every scenario as-is, the appreciation has more to do with the potential this level of prompt comprehension has
it's really probably wishful thinking to hope it would ever get a hentai finetune, but that's what we all thought with SDXL originally too, so.. who knows, maybe one day someone bites the bullet, or it's existence inspires higher standards for better base models in the future
>>8145849
noice, not overcooked then, being able to separate all the outfits/chars. looks like it got her angry-brow face down too
&yeah, I struggle with finding the happy medium of close-up portraits in the dataset at times. could probably try increasing the dim if its struggling with iris's, then resize the lora smaller post-training if you don't want a big file size (usually retains a bit more detail this way). if you haven't tried that already, I mean
It looks good to me as-is from the images you've shown though
>>8145887
are we sure he's not a DEI at this point kek
maybe his work facing self is different but his public persona would embarrass me as a company ... then again it's a tech space, not exactly known for well adjusted individuals, so what do I know
>>8145956
maybe someone can link you something more specific, but you'll want a lora (if not multiple). check on civit under pony loras for something that fits the bill, this one might help with line thickness:
>https://civitai.com/models/536740/pony-lineart-adjuster
if you're using score tags, styles like that usually benefit from not using 'em, too
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>>8146000
Pony doesn't respond to any of those tags. I'll look for a shiny skin lora
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>>8145982
You did drop all score tags already, right?
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>>8145998
you won't easily get styles like that with Pony models
you can get generic anime style with recent pony models

if you want styles like that specifically, use SDXL models with some artist knowledge like Olympus v2, Kohaku Epsilon
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Wtf is "ODOR"? India trained model?
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>>8146008
>Olympus v2, Kohaku Epsilon
animagine is better than both of those now come on
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>>8146009
kek'd
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>>8146001
>>8145735
those are such girly gens I can't even
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>>8146010
haven't used 3.1 much, did the NSFW improve?
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>unironically pointing people to shitmixes
come the fuck on, man.
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>>8146008
Of course you can. It's just difficult, more than it needs to be.
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>>8145989

are you referring to these memberships? I don't see how any of these are a better option than just downloading the model?

>>8146010
>animagine
>Olympus v2
>Kohaku Epsilon

can these do nsfw? Any posts to link that use these?
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>>8145998
>give it to me straight
you will need to do more testing and digging. i suggest asking anons for a catbox if you see an image with a style you like.
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>>8146023
he's talking about NovelAI, hosts arguably the best model for anime gens, but is locked behind a sub.
This is by far the most straightforward solution - type your prompt, type your artist (provided they have like 150-200+ images on danbooru), and boom, your gen.
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>>8146020
Where? Olympus and Kohaku are not mixes.
And a literal "shitmix" is in the OP, autissmix. There's nothing wrong with using them by itself if you know what you're doing. Loras merged into the model behave differently compared to loras simply applied while prompting.
Shitmixing is worth it to get rid of pony's atrocious innate style as much as possible.
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>>8145860
U.S. Army Corps of Engineers Bay Model
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>>8146027
Very clean but I hate when it randomly does that weird shading on the top of the cleavage sometimes. It always looks sort of off to me
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>>8146027
Only b-chama is allowed to post ghislaine
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>>8145998
this is still, largely, a social game - unless you want to play on solo and learn how to do all your own lora training.
get the catbox extension. if you see someone post shit you like the look of, ask for a catbox and any associated lora's/whatever and work forward from there.
I wouldn't recommend bothering with shitmixes, they won't really add anything other than their own innate style bias while reducing the effectiveness of style lora's.
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>>8146034
Liar
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>>8146034
>I wouldn't recommend bothering with shitmixes, they won't really add anything other than their own innate style bias while reducing the effectiveness of style lora's.
quite literally, they're mostly just model + lora, packaged as a 6.5GB file, offering none of the benefits except "you don't need to load a lora manually" and all of the downsides.
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>>8146037
>>8146034
Stop shilling basepony, astra. autism reigns supreme and we won't be gaslighted into abandoning it again.
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>>8146029
>arguably the best model for anime gens
kek
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the closer to base model you get, the better, but you have a short memory anon
nobody used base NAI after AOM2.
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>>8146046
(You)
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>>8146048
(No You)
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>>8146029
>paying for extra blur and ooze on your slop gens
paypigsisters we cant stop lo... i mean winning!
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>>8145816
Smea dy + AYS is preddy good.
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>>8146029
>arguably the best model for anime gens
That would be pony diffusion v6.
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>>8146047
All my loras used base nai and where highly downloaded/ rated
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>>8145929
Luckily for me I already look like that and say that so I have no need for such "finetuning."
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>>8146047
that's because base NAI, for all the advancement we got out of it, was still really shit - and a lora on its own couldn't even begin to attempt to fix its issues. And don't forget, no one recommended using base AOM2 for all that long, either.
That said, pony is a different story with all sorts of random fuckups, but lora's are, generally speaking, an effective way to deal with it.
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>>8145949
I love small breasts bros...
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>>8146029
anon....
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>>8146057
Funny way to spell resonance cascade beta 0.87.1346789.e10 lite
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>>8146041
reweik is better thoughever
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>>8146067
you wanna know what the lora merged into reweik was based off of..?
yep, NAI!
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>>8146066
Base pony is an outstanding anime model. Very clean style, flexible, extendable (thanks to loras and controlnet).
NAI is too blurry.
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>>8146067
reweik bros raise up
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piggies really oinking today huh...
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>>8146056
Thanks for the suggestion anon.
What is AYS? I only see Euler SMEA dy in my list. And how many steps should I run?
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>>8146061
The ideal lower body. Shame it's an imminent vacation here.
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Holy mother of discord screenshots
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uh oh a meltie incoming
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>>8146077
>nothingburger with no /hdg/ celebs
dont care. post latest neggles screenshot accompanied by a jordach meltdown
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>>8146076
Can't you post on /b/ instead?
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>>8146077
tl;dr?
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uh oh anti-nai diaperfag schizo meltie
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>>8146084
Can't, this is my home:(
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>>8146073
Yeah bro you got me to try it and I haven't looked back. It's unironically more colorful than autism.
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>>8146086
>me when i smear my diaper over my image and think its good
localgods... how do we win
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>>8143460
Reminder that this or a similar-thinking faggot is trying stir shit and trigger schizos right now.
Don't fall for it, we had a nice thing going.
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>>8146085
Nothing, no progress whatsoever, just more committees, foundations and meetings.
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>>8146076
Catboxes exist for a reason you know
https://files.catbox.moe/pvkx3z.png
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>>8146089
based reweik appreciator bro
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Those blacked gens are nice. Posting the most demanded fetish is always good. Thank you.
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>>8146109
Is this a request? there's not a single blacked gen posted itt
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>>8146034
>this is still, largely, a social game - unless you want to play on solo and learn how to do all your own lora training.

well, not exactly what I wanted to hear, but since your image is probably the closest to what I wanted to gen, ill take your word for it.

This is a lot harder than some anons on another board made it out to be. Everyone just said, two hours and you can gen whatever the fuck i wanted but apparently getting what everyone is calling a "generic" anime style is kinda hard.

Also, if any anons come on that could help out, im lurking please please please please just throw me a fucking bone.

>>8146029

Is there a gallery, im looking on reddit there's barely anything and it's mostly sfw. im also searching civit and all nai tagged models don't look very different? I don't really want to drop cash just to start right back here.
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>236 seconds for the example image
g-go on without me flux chads...
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Thoughts on T-ponynai3?

https://civitai.com/models/317902?modelVersionId=673299

Kinda crazy how we're still on Pony after so many months
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>>8146125
I looked, and behold, a black man; and he who sat on it had the name Cathag; and Shitposting was following with him.
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>>8146127
Apparently there is a FLUX model for lower end PCs, I haven't checked it out though because I use forgeUI:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5BjuPgF1Ds
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>>8146126
I'm not sure what those anons are talking about. I imagine autismmix + flat artist lora + 3d in negative prompt should give you what you're looking for. What you need to do first is find an artist you like, see if there's a lora that replicates that well, or gather 100 pics and ask someone here to make that lora for you. Then learn how to prompt.
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>>8146130
Stop samefagging
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>>8146127
You can use the smaller TE
I'm getting 60secs on a 4070
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>>8146132
It's just lobotomizing it with quantization.
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>>8146132
That doesn't work on ultrashit GPUs like 10xx
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>>8146142
NF4 is comparable with fp16. And if you are a vramlet it's better than nothing
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>>8146132
thanks anon, I'll check it out, also damn, just from the start of the video the guy has a 4090 and it still took him 50 seconds with the dev model, that's pretty steep

>>8146141
I have a 4070 super so I'll probably get similar performance then, gotta experiment with these alternatives
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>>8146147
Comparable means that it's possible to compare it. It doesn't mean that it's good.
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>>8146132
but it was in forge first
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what's the difference between the samplers and schedulers?
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>>8146130
>a black man
The pixels being colored black doesn't mean the character they represent is from the USA.
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>>8146154
it's good enough to not look awful when compared to fp16. if you are a vramlet you either don't use this shit at all (300 secs per gen is not reasonable at all) or use crutches like this.
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>>8146032
fuck you I didnt notice it now I cant unsee it. Its just shadows...
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>>8146158
Read this if you want https://stable-diffusion-art.com/samplers/#Evaluating_samplers
Or just pick one of the eulers, they work for everything
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>tfw forgor to rename and do example gens of some loras I downloaded time ago and now I don't know what they even are/do
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>>8145596
>>LOCAL FORGEUI
>Maintained branch:
>https://github.com/lllyasviel/stable-diffusion-webui-forge/tree/dev2
link dont even work

is og forge back now?
some shit about a backend rewrite
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style still feels weak, gonna try a rebake with pruned dataset & more repeats. have a nice day anons, thanks again for the birthday wishes
>>8146015
I cannot imagine any reason why I'd make girly gens, none what so ever, it is a mystery beyond our mortal comprehension desu
>>8146027
>>8146162
perfection..
>>8146077
>OMI
do people follow this for any reason other than comedic relief?
>>8146132
there's a version for nu-forge
>>8146142
>>8146154
unno, most of the comparisons I've seen quantization made nicer composition and style choices on average, don't know why its getting shit on so hard
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>>8146175
Bake your tits into the lora next time.
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>>8146183
flat chested
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>>8146073
me in the middle
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>>8146186
You mean the guy, right anon? R..right?
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>>8146126
how flat do you want anon
try Equos with some style loras or the 4th tail lyco extract if you know which artists you want
put anime screencap in prompt if you just want anime style
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>>8146164
thx anon, this link is very informational
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>>8146187
yeah sure
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>>8146187
He does because that girl is me :3 teehee
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>>8146126
>Everyone just said, two hours and you can gen whatever the fuck i wanted but apparently getting what everyone is calling a "generic" anime style is kinda hard
no idea what they're calling generic. There's very specific generic as fuck AI looking things that, yeah, takes pretty much no effort to get to - it just doesn't look very good and very explicitly looks like AI. Getting rid of that is situationally hard(this is where the 'social' aspect comes in since more people=more knowledge=less work to sift through shit), but getting rid of it in a way that you actually like can be more difficult. So, again, get the catbox extension and learn to check for metadata to find out what people are doing.
I don't have the lora from that specific on mega since it's a bit wonky but here's a litterbox
https://litter.catbox.moe/f4lt7a.safetensors
it's a multi-artist lora. it's technically got 5 artists but one isn't super great and another is basically a wash and of the other three one of them is only partially effective. The artist being used for that output(tsuda hayato) came out pretty decently, though.
here's a mega directory
https://mega.nz/folder/FiUlmbaY#THGdabflbUDLMXffz_febQ
a lot of eclectic stuff from different timeframes. multipack directory has more multi-artist lora's(other varients of tsudahayato and a lot of flat flat/sketch oriented stuff exists there). I'd probably recommend sorting by date and checking things by how recently they've been added. Most the directories have a sample grid and those have metadata so download and open in notepad or something to check shit.
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>>8145796
>it does
Where?
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>>8146202
Simple tuner
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Can someone remind me why it's bad to bake score 9 and score 7 into your lora? What does it actually do to the output? Putting an artist name activation tag helps if you want to use score tags but not as much as just putting the score tags you will use somewhere in the dataset.
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>>8146204
Probably better off asking ldg
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>>8146204
what cfg you're using
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>>8146206
Isn't that the nonce general? nah thanks
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>>8146209
None, still using the basic workflow that comfy shared
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>>8146205
Putting score tags makes it mistakenly attribute parts of your dataset to those scores, and since the scores are already hard built into the model you're essentially fighting what the model believes those scores are, usually losing details for things that should be more associated with their actual words
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>>8146211
No one here is actually using flux, they are. You're unlikely to get an answer here for it
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>>8145541
I tried and it just makes distortions, same for Neta. Animagine works fine, but we didn't need it there.

Tried a dozen pony mixes too and only Trifusion seems to work, probably has just traces of pony in it.
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>>8146205
it's not bad, but those aren't real tags you want to apply dropout to them or use wildcards.
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oh, making your own basic merges is actually fast
this opens up a whole new ballpark of schizodom for me
not trying anything terribly ambitious, just trying to land on a better refiner
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>>8146223
>refiner
Sirs...
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>>8146205
Mainly you mess up compatibility with other loras, since you can't both train the same tag with different meanings.
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>>8146226
it does not do this
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>>8146061
You'd be surprised to know how actually good NAI1 is if you actually try to compare it to AOM2.
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>>8146228
Uhhh doubt. I remember actually playing it back in the day during late 1.5 days and it's very rough. Simply applying lora certainly didn't unfuck it.
Anything V3 was actually pretty usable though.
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>>8146224
refiner gets you better anime faces and less obviously "pony" lines and character shading
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>>8146234
not this shit again
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>>8146234
just use lora chud
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>>8146234
refiner gets you mangled fingers and genitalia
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>>8146234
Refiner is slow as shit since you have to load and unload a separate model
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>>8146234
refiner makes this thread go kaboom bro
>>8146236
>>8146239
>>8146240
>>8146240
>>8146241
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can just bake a lora.
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>>8146232
You should test it now, the same way you prompt pony or nai3.
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>>8146241
if you're a ramlet

>>8146239
i havent found a lora that does this well on eyes and eyebrows especially on raw gens
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>>8146249
You could get that exact image if not better using midkemia with adetailer, the fuck are you doing using 6gb loras
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don't forget guys, another checkpoint shitmixed with lora is all you need
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>>8146258
Correct.
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>>8146258
Doggo
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>>8146252
a detailer step takes longer than just finishing the last third of the steps with a basic (your favorite checkpoint & animagine) merge
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buddy of mine asked for vanilla from nekopara. 1 sfw and 1 nsfw.
i got the sfw in progress right now, what should i do for the nsfw one? i was told "anything" and that leaves too much room for my liking
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>>8146262
1girl, standing, nude, smile
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Refiner allows you to achieve stronger style changes compared to just using a lora on pony but it's not worth it considering all the issues and complications it causes. There, I said it.
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>rentry is down
sigh
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>>8146267
Based take
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>>8146268
How much information do we lose if it were down infinitely..
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>>8146268
>>8146271
wow, that was a quick fix, it started working again
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>>8146265
too simple, what else you got?
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>>8146273
orcs?
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>>8146273
>irrumatio, deepthroat, oral, motion lines, head grab, messy hair, saliva trail, tongue out
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>>8146275
orcs are good too
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>>8146267
What issues and complication are you talking about?
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>>8146275
orcs arent in nekopara yet
>>8146280
i will see where this goes
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>>8146288
>orcs arent in nekopara yet
>yet
Be the change you want to see in the world.
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>>8146301
im not fond of orcs. im sure you can understand why id prefer to not be that change
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>>8146304
How about goblins or minotaurs?
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>>8146306
no
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1girl
smug
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>>8146208
What's the name for this hand position? v arms doesn't work.
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>>8146234
They hated him because he spoke the truth.
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>>8146261
adetailer literally takes 2.5 secs for me though so I really don't see the benefit.
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>>8146282
>orcs are good too

aye
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>>8145596
So when did the practice of the OP sharing the OPgen stop? Digging through archives, I see multiple OPgens I like, and nobody posted catbox.
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>>8146329
refiner improves character knowledge across whole scene, like outfit details and hair doodads, not just face, and
overall i think it looks better for slop and makes less work for me for effortposting
picrel base model reweik 20 steps & westoid loras, refiner (reweik & animagine). it's just a little bit better across the whole image particularly the face
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>>8146337
and oh, the refiner was 10 steps

you can also "refine" with the same model and a different lora set, split the prompt and seed hunt the last third of the denoise, etc. it's just neat
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>>8145805
>It's just there such a big line separating idealistic fantasy bestiality when dogs are into girls, it doesn't look weird and forced, etc. And irl gross bullshit
Literally all the beast hentai artists I know of and fap to draw it like "irl gross bullshit", where'd you come from, friend?
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now for female orcs
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>>8146324
try "arms between legs"
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sirs, any of you got locally breasts like this? >>8144804
tried all those [small breasts|flat chest], breasts apart, sagging breasts prompts, but it looks nothing like those that NAI produces
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Shill time!
If you're tired of searching for artist loras just to make an image "look anime", AUA is out
https://civitai.com/models/641682
Exchange 10/10 perfect hands for something that resembles NAI-style prompting.
Spend your time looking for artist names, not heating up your gpu to train overbaked loras!

Shill time over. Enjoy the rest of your day!
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>>8146341
>no tusks
thats just a tall goblin
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>>8146350
>oh cool a new model
>clicks link
>base model: SDXL 1.0

nvm
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>>8146354
Nobody tags Pony models as pony nowadays even if they are pony. It's shameful.
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>>8146351
a tall goblin is literally an orc
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>>8146337
Alright anon I'll nibble your bait. What do I have to do to set this up?
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>>8146348
It's not "NAI" it's those artists. You can do the same with an opossumachine lora.
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>>8146350
>overbaked loras
If only this was true
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>>8146360
sdxl samplers on webui should have a builtin refiner option, on comfy you can use two advanced samplers
ponymagine is a perfectly fine prebaked checkpoint for a refiner
webui and pony both have options for making your own merges, i did mine like this https://litter.catbox.moe/6ijdj6.json
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>>8146350
CCC_anon, I haven't tested AUA yet, but just know that you are the best <3
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>>8146360
https://rentry.org/anypony-science
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>8146373
This is a troll post for any newfags that might be unknowningly taking the bait
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>>8146362
>opossumachine
I will check it again but dropped using it because it turn everything into toddler proportions
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>>8146378
uh-oh, we have a meltie?
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>>8146373
for clarity i think a merge like ponymagine is better overall as a refiner than plain animagine
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Wish something like this happened to me, and not involve a homeless person.
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>>8146379
Toddler is based, local could never...
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>>8146379
Lower the weight.
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>>8146221
catbox me that image though.
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>>8146379
Loli anatomy is saved
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>>8146387
>>8146388
>green box for cat box info
>no meta data found
Why would you do this.
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>>8146399
only based loli anatomy is long legged tall flat with narrow hips
but Pony it's shitting bed on that
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>>8146383
Does ponymagine understand pony tags and score tags?
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why do some people call anorexic girls a loli
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>>8146404
yes, which is a help in reducing tedium when you dont want to use two prompts
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>>8146405
why do some people call toddlers a loli
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>>8146401
>Why would you do this
https://files.catbox.moe/7kkkch.png

>>8146405

To give you a vacation easier.
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>>8146406
Oh nice so I don't even have to worry about prompt editing? Okay I'll give it a go after my bake finishes.
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>>8146405
Because regards on x are so addicted to canceling and moralfrogging that they are willing to call a grown woman a child because she isn't endowed.

People who say that shit are children mentally.
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>>8146405
IDK could you ask jannies that? They seem to have the same misunderstanding.
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>>8146410
daily reminder the australian goverment banned porn of women with small tits. unironically.
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>>8146405
pedos ruined most anorexic porn by using it as a scapegoat for their pedoshit, like how blacked cucks ruin orc porn by making it thinly veiled blacked porn. both can still be done right without the accusations but it's now a very thin line (no anorexic puns intended kek) because of all the bad faith genners
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REFORGE ANON
UI-CONFIG.JSON ISN'T WORKING
FIX IT
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>remember saying I kept getting aco manfaces with pony way back
>niggas didn't believe me
>now they're having flaming melties over the fact
feels good to be right
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do i even bother downloading reweik 1.3 or do i keep using 1.2?
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>>8146423
i like it but i am not like most /h/arlots here
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>>8146408

>drag and drop img into ui for prompt
>no resolution or lora info or model info just prompt shows up
>prompt doesn't give me anything that looks even remotely like img

alright, i guess i don't even know the basics of this. Could somebody explain what im doing wrong?
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>>8146431
It's NovelAI.
https://novelai.net/inspect
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>>8145810
>The way you can describe scenes on flux is something we could only dream of a year ago.
example?
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>>8146436
I tried flux and it's a meme, it's basically just less censored dall-e
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>>8146262
followup on this, got an idea and in the middle of a batch it produced this retarded cat and i would like you all to have it
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>>8146407
don't get that either
toddler: https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=10503648
loli: https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=8786791
NOT A LOLI BECAUSE ASS??? https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=10505908
>>8146414
unironically do the needful and kill yourself
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CUTE AND FUNNY
U
N
N
Y
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Any good programs for mass downloading off of twitter? Artist I wanna make a lora of doesn't have any images on boorus.
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>>8146443
Japenis don't care about American obsession with trying to classify everything like it is a science
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>>8146439
example?
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>>8146450
Sketches for D&D characters. Exact same floating weapon issue I had with dall-e. Only difference was, again, that I could prompt cleavage and get cleavage.
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>>8146452
catbox?
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>it's a meme
>it's basically just less censored dall-e
lmao
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>>8146448
make a selenium script
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>>8146453
I didn't save anything because I didn't like it. There are free online generators for flux you can try if you want dall-e tier cleavage.
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>>8146456
>I didn't save anything because I didn't like it.
a likely story
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>>8146457
Sorry to burst your bubble, "dall-e but less censored" doesn't impress me, when it has the same coherence flaws as dall-e.
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bunny
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>>8146460
im sure
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>>8146443
it's hilarious because loli is broad term and different retards try to use it or rebrand it to cope or gaslight others
toddler fags call their shit loli to sound less extreme, some loli fags are using "hebe" to differentiate oneself from the former
and you end up in situation where for the same shit you can be called pedo or ironic redditor liking adult anorexic girls
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>>8146460
To be fair local dalle is inherently amazing, it's just not good at /h/... yet.
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>>8146467
>local dalle is inherently amazing
for realsies?
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>>8146469
If you had said told someone dalle would leak and we would be free to prompt locally 1 year ago people would have called you crazy. Even 6 months ago this would be true. It's a good day for sfw chads but this is /h/.
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>>8146470
it leaked? i didn't know this where?
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>>8146467
I'm sure it will be an improvement for coomslop once the pony equivalent arrives, it's just not revolutionary for regular use-cases like D&D character sketches imo.
Well, actually, the ponyfag did make the miracle of relatively coherent hands half the time happen with proper tagging, so who knows.
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loli's meaning is pretty clear
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>>8146474
If it's that so, then yeah, I am one. Are you mad about it?
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>>8146465
loli meaning has always been pre-pubescent body type (regardless of actual age) for all taggers. toddler is a subset tagged alongside loli on basically every site which has both tags. People calling "teen" or "petite" women loli have always been wrong.
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>>8146474
>google translate moment
Pedo gaslight
>>8146479
>People calling "teen" or "petite" women loli have always been wrong.
How can Japanese people be wrong about the term they invented? Fucking Americans
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>>8146483
>term they invented
what? don't you realize the existence of the book from which this term comes?
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>>8146479
>oppai loli and babaloli enter the chat
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My only pitch for NAI is that it is quite literally the ONLY commercial AI service that is 100% completely uncensored and has 0 restrictions on what you generate whatsoever. NAI never sees what you generate. None of it is saved on their servers. There is no way to report generations to NAI, not even on the user end (most AI services let you tattle on yourself if the generator makes smut if it wasn't asked to LMAO). This is true for their image and text generators. No other subscription AI service is like this. Every single one has restrictions. Even TEXT BASED generators! For that reason, I support NAI.
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>>8146487
Lolita is the nickname of the girl in the book, loli is the term invented by the Japanese.
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>>8146488
loli
ロリ
ペド
Sexually explicit or sexually suggestive artwork of girls who appear to be preadolescent, regardless of canonical age

lolibaba
ロリババア
An old woman with the body of a preadolescent child.

oppai loli
ロリ巨乳
Used when a female child or child-like character has notably adult-sized breasts, but otherwise retains their preadolescent proportions.

It's really not complicated.
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>>8146474
It's a complement.
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>>8146494
>Danbooru
You're not even trying.
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>>8146490
invention is a big word for removal of two letters
but i guess similarity of those two words it's just pure coincidence
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>>8146499
>"Lolita", the Spanish diminutive for Dolores.
The girl's name is Dolores. Are you a fucking retard or just American?
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>>8146500
are you on drugs?
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>>8146501
Does "Dolores" mean "little girl" in any language, you fucking ape?
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>>8146496
You can pick whatever favorite booru you want. Dan, Gel, Sankaku, even sadpanda. Definition for loli will be same on all of them.
It's always pre-pubescent body, but you can continue coping if you'd like instead.
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>>8146503
We don't give a shit what Americans think "loli" means.
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can you just stfu and post cunnies?
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>no good gens or people using the same style for months
its over...
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>>8146502
book called "Lolita" is all about the dude wanting to fuck 12yo, it has nothing to do with term "loli" all about sexualized depictions of young girls
>Does "Dolores" mean "little girl" in any language, you fucking ape?
do you have a stroke?
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Getting a wet skin effect without it looking as if the character was dumped into oil is a hard balance.

>>8146498
I like how the nipples here look.
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>>8146508
>sexualized depiction
Did you get this from Twitter? You fucking monkey.
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>>8146511
genuine question what's you point and why are you seething? I just pointed out that this term stems from the book and you went on a meltdown
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>local still can't do this
>people tried last thread and were humiliated
it's over...
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>>8146521
thats not your gen :)
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>>8146526
No shit, retard? Did the twitter filename and dejected tone clue you in? Obviously I'm a local user disappointed in what's available.
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It is what it is.
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>see a gen of yours on aibooru
>it's one-click slop you didn't give a second thought, never the gens you really liked
why?
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>>8146528
>wahh wahhh wahh i have a skill issue
hmmmm
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>>8146533
This but also OP images
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>>8146534
>0 argument
>can't prove me wrong
>s-skill issue
Cope
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>>8146538
cant wait for you make the same post again
have fun with that lol
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>>8146541
>>8146542
LMAO
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uh oh melty...
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Why do people bicker so much and post no gens...
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>>8146546
people want to feel superior about their ai slop because they have nothing else in their lives
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>>8146546
wheres the pussy?
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>>8146521
Sadly true. That level of detail is beyond pony and pony is the best we have.
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>>8146518
You really should learn to shut the fuck up if you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

Loli is derived from lolita complex, which yeah, stems from the book. Every word etymologically stems from something, that's how language works. Doesn't mean the Japanese didn't invent the term "loli", because they did, because nobody before that ever used the word "loli". I hope it's obvious that "loli" is gibberish in Spanish, it's not even a loanword.

Even if "loli" was invented by the book in some alternative universe, just to humor this train of thought: as you've pointed out, the girl Dolores is 12 years old; in other words, she's pubescent, not prepubescent, in fact this is what the term lolita complex refers to: attraction to pubescent girls.

It's a good thing then that "loli" has become divorced from "lolita complex" in meaning. As the pedo gaslight shows, it can mean both prepubescent, and pubescent, that's how Japanese people use it. We know this because of the abundance of evidence in how Japanese people use it, everything from seiyuus on talk shows like the Oreimo VAs (from that one legendary clip discussing a fan's letter) to Japanese artists talking about characters (such as, to name relatively recent examples, Tatsumaki from One Punch Man and Rebecca from Cyberpunk Edgerunners.)

In summary, you really should learn to shut the fuck up if you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
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>>8146551
local will never reach this level of blur its a damn shame
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>>8146550
90s PC98 censorship. Please understand.
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>>8146553
kek, cool essay anon, just realized that you are seething about 8146479, which wasn't my post, I was just talking about term origin, and you are committing friendly fire right now
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>>8146570
8146479 didn't say anything wrong. The meaning of "loli" is only a point of debate for American retards, which his post points out.
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>>8146528
I don't get it. Plug this into controlnet and get 200 variations on your perfect pose, what's the issue?
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>>8146546
i'm too busy autistically recreating a character's underwear in koikatsu to gen
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>>8146574
>thinking it's about the pose and not the extensive detail
simpleton
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>>8146578
>extensive detail
Hang painterfags
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>>8146572
Erotic. Catbox?
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>>8146579
>ME ONLY NEED STICKMAN! ME GET OFF GOOD!
God, please kill this man.
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>>8146490
Protip, if a word is written in katakana it's a borrowed word.
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>>8146582
Yes faggot, I fell in love with hentai precisely because it's not realistic. Death to painterfags
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>>8146581
https://files.catbox.moe/gttvwv.png
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>>8146553
So did nips "invent" pasocon too? This is like saying gamers invented DLC because they didn't want to say the whole thing.
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>>8146550
Flux gen
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>>8146584
Neko is not a borrowed word, and most often written in katakana. ネコ. Stop saying dumb things.
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>>8146587
You fell in love with hentai because you have room temp IQ. You don't even need AI, go draw stick figures on one of the napkins your retard handler provides you to clean the drool off your desk.
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>>8146593
>猫
You're being a retarded faggot so here's your last you.
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>>8146589
Pasocon is a loanword, retard.
>>8146596
You're not even trying.
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%8D%E3%82%B3
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>>8146588
nice nips
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>Retarded ESL doesn't know what a personal computer is.
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>>8146588
is that monogatari style on civitai by chance? id like to get a copy
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>>8146587
Not him, but I think equating realism with level of detail is wrong. I also think that the only real weakness in pony is level of detail which is precisely why no loras ever quite get it THERE wherever it is that people disgruntled with pony want it to get.
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>>8146603
>the only real weakness
delusional and its related to xl not pony
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>>8146605
NAI is XL.
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>>8146600
ty anon

>>8146602
I extracted a lyco from this model https://civitai.com/models/54867?modelVersionId=539850

I can upload it you want
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>>8146607
and it has a low level of detail, whats your point?
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>>8146610
Sure it does, sweety, though I'm not even going to continue with retarded bait like that.
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>>8146615
show me proper writing in nai
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Is there a reforge compatible extension that lets me queue up several generations with different prompts? I want to try variations on a prompt while I do other stuff
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>>8146609
Yes, please do
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>>8146602
>>8146609
Okay I uploaded it, it's heavy asf
https://mega.nz/file/t4YThTIZ#j-vBFhkjVcjpdOLVe6iWGStp7ma2P9ZBON4imuc6UUY
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>>8146617
>show me something a model trained on booru tags was never trained to reproduce
That's a great argument.
If you compare the clean detailed artist mixes of nai (not the retarded melting ciloranko ones all over pixiv) with flux at the same resolution, even flux will get mogged. Flux has an upper hand in comprehension, not in LoD. Though I'll give you the fact that it's SURELY possible to train a bigger model to produce better detail than NAI. Obviously. Doesn't excuse the pathetic LoD of pony that uses the same exact architecture.
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>>8146489
NAI is ok, did write the odd fanfic with its help, does sometimes spitball cool plot developments and ideas (Having no positivity bias or censorship and being heavily/preeminently trained on literature really plays into this strength). It is relatively dumb and has trouble following more complicated plot-lines, meaning it needs a good bit of hand holding from the user. Then again Opus also has trouble with complicated plot elements, though it only needs minimal help; Author notes, summaries, maybe a little nudge on what you expect to happen, while with NAI most often than not you have to write that part of the story yourself.
Can only recommend the subscription if you plan to use their ImageGen services too, which is quite good.
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>>8146624
>1gb
>heavy
where i come from 1gb is chump change but thank you
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>>8146630
>two moles
at least eyes are right
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>>8146630
Is this style intended to look like a 2.5d gen with a 2d face pasted onto it?
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>>8146431
if you see a good anime gen with rich color palette - its probably NAI
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>>8146636
When you're used to ponyslop anything with decent lighting and contrast must look 3d

But I am using used mixed media, photo background, and photorealistic tags
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>>8145682
nice!! Thanks! And I thought I had a lot

You unlocked the catbox
https://files.catbox.moe/ox2ukc.png
https://files.catbox.moe/jhmf2d.png
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>>8146643
That was a long-winded way to say yes.
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>try reweik
>output barely change
uh?
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Any hope for a hentai Flux finetune?
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>>8146643
>>8146630
damn brat
https://files.catbox.moe/ijutj5.png
(yeah, lack of whatever the fuck this is https://arxiv.org/abs/2305.08891 (zSNR, vpred) in pony is grim)
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>>8146657
It's a SDXL problem in general, not only pony. NAI said that they found their own way to unfuck it when they trained the model.
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>>8146671
They also said they would release how they did it but i'll guess it will come out right after wdv
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>>8146656
In a year.
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I got worse results with a batch size of 2. Is going 1 by 1 a better method?
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>>8146677
i mean wdv is training on cosxl anyway so whatever. it's the ponyfaggot who doesn't care if the model comes looking like no contrast sepia
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>>8146680
One time I almost went insane because I wasn't able to 1:1 replicate an old ass gen of mine. It turned out that batch size was at 2.
Since then I ALWAYS keep batch size at 1 for EVERYTHING.
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>>8146686
I was making a joke about wdv never coming out and nai never releasing their paper on how they unfucked xl
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>>8146687
nta but I dont get how this shit work, like how is batch size influencing gen, seems like a massive mistake on the webui
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Besollo! Just saw your Houtengeki lora. Nice work.
Any chance you could rework on your jcm2 lora? Yours has too many different styles mixed in.
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>>8146625
Hey, ciloranko's not bad, just overused.
And pixiv fags don't really care about details, inpainting and refining gens most of the time. Spamming 40pic galleries of fotm girls is the meta.
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>>8146691
Ciloranko the Overexposed
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>>8146657
extremely based
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>>8146706
How do you find all these loras? It just seems like such a time consuming process.
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>>8146706
What do you think about the other version of reweik? I was looking for a more colorfull model than autism but im getting kinda similar result with v12
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>>8146708
I quite literally only have 5 style loras at most, I just the mix them at different weights so each mix is clearly distinguishable from each despite using the same loras

>>8146709
>What do you think about the other version of reweik?
Saw the author mixed it with 3dpd and I lost any interest on it
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>>8146711
Guess i'll try v11 then
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Now that I think about it, is there a Riichu style out there yet?
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I've gotten a basic idea of mixing loras and using BREAK to make things look nicer, but what's the point of using hires fix over just increasing the resolution I'm genning at? I assume its more efficient to use hires fix? oh and if anyone has a good upscaler to recommend for autism confetti that'd be great.
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>>8146717
style lora*
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>>8146625
Flux has really high level of detail with realism gens, it's just that the anime style it has baked in is basic.
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>>8146718
you are misunderstanding how the ai create your picture, tldr: base resolution outside of what it was trained for will give inconsistent/bad result
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>>8146718
>what's the point of using hires fix over just increasing the resolution I'm genning at?
Unless you are using RAUnet you should stick to the proper standard SDXL resolution, otherwise you are going to have bad/weird compositions or body horrors
You use hires fix after you find a good base gen (with a proper resolution) and then if you care about it, inpaint the little details to make it look better
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>>8146722
>>8146725
Oh okay that makes a lot of sense, thanks.
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>>8146699
It's pretty good. I lost all interest in shitter finetunes after flux dropped. I simply don't care about bakes on these inferior models. Cascade, cosXL, auraflow. All shit.
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>>8146727
>nogen
classic
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>>8146727
This, it's so fucking good!
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>>8146727
flux is really good
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>>8146699
Only titties can be gened rn. But its not even in anime style.
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I'm amazed how some stupid screenshots or 3dpd "le heckin reactino" images can stay but when someone posts a nostril it gets jannied immediately
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>>8146743
I've tried to get flux to work in anime style, chill
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if huge breasts=true sagging breasts yes or no?
thoughts?
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>>8146745
depends, both can look good
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>>8146718
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>>8146746
Based Korraposter but
>off-model
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>people getting paid $40+ per lora
>make the customer provide the pics for the dataset
>run autotagger and don't even proofread
>train at bs8 and finish in 30 mins
>only amount of work you do is check a couple epochs for broken hands which doesn't matter that much anyway
When will civit shut down?
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>>8146727
this honestly especially since they will most likely use the dogwater stability vaes instead of training their own like nai
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>>8146756
Is training vae that hard? I feel like its been a bottleneck for a while
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>>8146750
Its milf Korra
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>>8146760
the problem is probably that there is not really any easily tunable tool to train like sd scripts, so you would have to go low level to design it
and also that you have to retrain the model since the weights are based on the vae it was trained with + a decent amount of data to train the vae itself
idk why the chinamen dont train their own and instead piggyback off of sdxls
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>>8146771
fuck, imagine if we had real contrast in our gens
fuck
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>>8146773
wyd? as in make the girls complete different?
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>>8146771
can you add a strong blur filter
the lines are too clean
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>>8146774
nah, i mean bright/dark contrast, which pony can't do. gen is good, tools are fucked
>>8146643
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>>8146773
retarded take, the pastel colors look good here
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>>8146777
Oh, I agree, shading is fucked up but is something that I have given up even on my NAI gens

>>8146776
Like? it was just a pass with anifilm at x1
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>>8146782
>Like?
you respond to blur shitposter
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jesus christ months pass and you braindead fucks still talk about same shit, muh blur muh contrast muh paypigs muh aco mu sepia
even the ultimate flux hentai finetune won't save this shithole
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>>8146787

watcha want to talk about bud? I'll chat.
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>>8146787
>nogen
hilarious
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>>8146790
is it adorable at least?
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>>8146787
tsmt
so glad i got an invite to the 'cord
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>>8146787
b-chama...
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>have to "fix" dataset captions specifically for pony
Can't wait for a replacement, whatever it is
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>>8146797
you are just asking for bleed on your lora by doing this
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>>8146677
They retrained it on vpred and terminal noise.
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>>8146798
it's a style, so if anything should remove bleed by not training the things the model already recognizes. Same as when you tag "white background" and then don't overfit on white backgrounds.
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https://rentry.org/resonance_cascade
fundraising campaign page is 404, did they stop gathering funds?
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>>8146806
They stole the money!!
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What's the reason why I can't reproduce my gens 1:1? People used to meme about loss of memory. How does this even happen?
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>>8146067
>>8146073
>>8146089
>>8146102
reweik bros.. I'm warming up to 1.3
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>>8146812
damn mario got fat
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>>8146075
Align Your Steps. Just use the regular one. There's like 40 versions of it. 25 - 30 steps works wonders.
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>>8146812
is that a mexican dude
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>>8146812
I see the inpaint halo, what was the base gen like?
Nice meaty pussy and breast shape by the way
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>>8146275
aye
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i made a mistake
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>>8146823
how big was the image
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>>8146813
>>8146815
Mamma mia, cabron.
>>8146816
Left hand had the usual extra finger gacha and her right arm showed a slight bit of forearm. I actually didn't touch vagoo AT ALL but had to sketch as I could not get this fucker to straighten the glans with regular inpaint.
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>Week 3
>Still haven't cleared the Savage tier
I want to unsub.
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>sketch bros winning as usual
I really need to learn to draw.
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>>8146824
1216x832 upscaled by 1.5
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>>8146832
why would that need so much vram
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>>8146833
i dont know and thats what im trying to figure out. something is wrong somewhere in this spaghetti
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>>8146829
Dunno how to draw for shit, brother. Just mushroom shaped it as best I could with a slightly different shade and got lucky. Had to switch to "fill" for it as original was dead set on trying to wedge the tip in and giving the illusion his cock was shaped like a horseshoe or some shit. I'm genuinely shocked whenever inpaint manages to form the blobs of shit I give it into what I want.
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>>8146829
its not hard to shit out color blobs in photoshop anon
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>>8146812
>>8146815
the lamp
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>>8146829
Why do you need to learn how to sketch when AI can sketch for you?
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>>8146828
fore armussy
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>>8146812
we went from reweik looking animeish to reweik looking like typical sepia autismmix slop
truly a downgrade
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>>8146851
>sketched the wood structure behind the girl
baka senpai
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>>8146864
Appreciate your observation. It's probably easier to clean than to sketch it yourself. Just grab a clone tool.
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>>8146862
Lora dependent. That's Fiz and Dango so you're not going to get flat anime screencaps, anon.
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>>8145596
Are there any advices to make pussy super detailed? Jeneral style has only one bad implementation on Civitai, and Adetailer doesn't give real results
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>>8146878
upscale or inpaint
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>>8145673
Good job, saw your other posts you-know-where. Been jerking to ai shit for the last 3 days, got it to work thanks to your advice. Still have a lot to learn tho.
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>>8146878
Put "pussy, clitoris, uncensored" in the positive prompt, and "censored, bar censor, mosaic censoring" in the negative prompt.
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>>8146891
"urethra" as well
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>>8146886

this anatomy would be hilarious if she stood up.
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>>8146546
This place doesn't like text gens?
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>this time I'll give you Stan Lee
My nigga went out on top
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>>8146894
At this point I feel like not knowing anatomy is essential to enjoy ai shit
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What the sigma?
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>>8146899
This goes for any 2d shit

anyone saying otherwise is coping
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>>8146902
unless you trace :)
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>>8146902
Good to know
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>>8146901
what kind of model is that? why are they using a bunch of hashed tags?
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>>8146901
I thought kohya doesn't support wildcard training for SDXL.
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is it worth it to train the text encoder at all? any specific blocks for it?
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did this guy delete all his loras or civit shits itself again?
https://civitai.com/user/zombocrombo
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>>8146926
Nah everythings gone on my end
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>>8146926
seems like he moved to a different account
https://civitai.com/user/Malebolgia/models
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what should I do differently when training style loras? my character ones turns out just fine, but my style ones seem to fry a bit without making it closer to the style
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>>8146933
>legoman zelda
I missed this autistic bitch like you wouldn't believe
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does anyone else ever notice controlnet fucking up with highres? I get better results disabling the controlnet on the image before upscaling
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>>8146936
test (and use) without score tags, first off
tag stuff better
if those don't help, add an activation tag
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>floral design prompt gives demon a Hawaiian shirt
Kinda based, young woman
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>>8146946
now I want to see the demon just trying to chill on the beach while the girl keep harassing him to get fucked
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Twintail edition.
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>>8146953
>girl
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>>8146960
uh oh
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>>8146960
you can literally see her pussy in picture
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>>8146970
thats perineum
>>8146972
fake
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>>8146925
No. The only thing training the TE does is bake in style for some reason.
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>>8146973
>thats perineum
im not talking about the flowers on the shirt
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>>8146828
i somehow manage to clear it week 1 in pf. what i did was going to partys that was going on same mechanic as mine or after it
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>add nai opossumachine tag
>body type immediately shifts to young loli even without any tags like "loli, flat chest"
I wish I didn't like the result
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>>8146892
"hymen" as well!
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>>8146985
dont forget ovaries
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>>8146350
Artist test
https://files.catbox.moe/lj61v2.jpg
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>>8146994
whats with the qos stuff
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>>8146995
interracial/ntr thing
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>>8147000
he's asking why is that filth there
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>>8147001
I think dark-skinned female makes it easier to observe the difference in colors and not just drawing style if that's what you're asking
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>>8147005
based
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>>8147001
Well, why wouldn't it be
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>>8147001
it is one of the best lora tests as a bad lora will have the symbol look like its just photoshopped on
a good lora will have a nice textured spade applied on the skin
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>>8147009
this, qos is just very hot fetish as well
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what's equivalent of qos for bleaching?
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>>8146887
10/10
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>>8147012
i thought it was queen of hearts
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>>8146994
>>8146995
My prompt had 'photo \(object\), queen of spades symbol'
I used a wildcard to get a random prompt from one of the booru cards I have and that's what I got.
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>>8147025
queen's back!
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>>8146994
now do it on neta2
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Speaking of Neta v2
I think it should be possible to merge it with Pony, because Neta v2 keeps its artist knowledge in the Output 1 block
While reweik at the very least has a lot of anatomical knowledge in blocks Input 7, Input 8, Middle 0 and Output 0
I'm doing some experiments and I'm seeing potential, but my GPU is so slow it's going to take me forever to find the right values
So maybe someone else with experience with model merging could look into this as well?
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>>8147039
So what I think should work is block merge Reweik into Neta v2, only keeping Output 1 for Reweik and then replacing the rest of the blocks or at least most of them with Reweik
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I want to cum inside anime girl
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>>8147042
based
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>>8147042
M-mods..
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>>8147028
never left
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>>8147049
>>8147025
pumping
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>>8147042
how would you do that
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>>8146984
some artist tags are really strong
try yamamoto souichirou
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>>8146984
i see this as absolute win
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>>8147041
>only keeping Output 1 for Reweik
For Neta you mean?

Also is this for gradient merge, Dare or just a simple block merge? And what about the TE?
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>>8146901
>>8146906
those are style hashes being used as wildcards for a style lora. the idea is that you take a random token that influences the style but shouldn't and insert it into your prompt, so the LORA learns to ignore the styles that astralite randomly baked into various tokens. copyright tokens work better though
>>8146912
it works fine
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>>8147058
Yes I miss typed
I was testing a simple block merge in Comfy and it was giving me relatively good results, I was getting vastly better posing while still retaining style albeit slightly smudgier
Which is when I started testing DARE MBW block merging but apparently it doesn't work as it should in Comfy https://github.com/54rt1n/ComfyUI-DareMerge/issues/12
I think if someone with a better GPU than me, has Supermerger set up in A1111 or Forge and could do some experiments we could maybe have something usable
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Whats the secret of small ponyXL LoRA sizes I seen some at 54mb some in the around the 100mb range
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>>8147063
My schizo notes if anyone's interested

neta:
input 4: door, door, some figure
input 5: door, door, figure turned into a girl
input 7: door, lobby, a diploma
input 8: a girl sitting, girl sitting, a girl reclining
middle 0: door, door, some figure
output 0: a girl standing doing more of the right pose, a girl standing doing more of the right pose, a diploma
output 1*: a girl standing with more ciloranko style, a shiny room, a girl from behind with wlop style
output 2: door, door, same figure turned girl
output 3: door, door, same figure turned girl
output 4: door, door, same figure turned girl
output 5: door, door, some figure

reweik:
input 4: a girl standing, a girl reclining
input 5: same girl standing, same girl reclining
input 7: different girl standing, similar girl reclining
input 8*: random girl in the right pose, random girl in right pose
middle 0*: same girl as in input 4 standing, similar girl reclining
output 0*: random girl doing the right pose, random girl doing right pose
output 1: random girl standing, random girl reclining with right background
output 2: same girl as in input 4 standing, input4
output 3: same girl as in input 4 standing, input4
output 4: same girl as in input 4 standing, input4
output 5: same girl as in input 4 standing, input4

Now you all also know how fried Pony is, you get a random girl regardless of which block you call on
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>>8147067
how many seeds did you test this with?
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>>8147031
Why would I do it on some other model when I have already achieved what I wanted? knows vtubers, knows artists, does porn, does gens in weird drawing styles like oekaki, all loras work on it

>>8147058
NTA but if you want styles you usually have to commit to the TE that knows them. Pony TE has no idea wtf <insert random artist name here> is supposed to do I also find it easier to merge <insert pony related model here> into other models that know stuff rather than merging those models into pony. Pony models are too attached to their TE and that's what you have to get rid of so it cannot be the "base model" because it starts shitting out noise if you don't give it its TE. Just like a baby.
Also, you might want to simply merge with AnimeConfetti. Seems a better fit for merging than all other stylized pony models with a single embedded style. When merging AnimeConfetti most of the anatomy was in IN0 and IN1 but it comes paired with thick lines.
https://civitai.com/models/184813/animeconfettitunexl
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I don't suppose that any of you gents managed to save the "Angel Academy's Hardcore Dorm Sex Life" lora published on civitain? It got removed too for some ungodly reason.

---

I managed to scrounge up 60 images, and now the damn lora is getting the drills right. In particular the side drills, which is making me very happy.
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>>8147068
my notes are just from 3, the commas are for a new seed
So
>door, door, some figure
are 3 different seeds
On Reweik I only noted down 2
So not a lot. I takes me like 2 minute to gen an image and I have to do it 11 times for each block. My GPU is too slow for this shit
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>>8147069
believe it or not, your aua gens look deepfried
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>>8147055
Cute, but very bad for backgrounds.
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>>8147066
Just keep the dim+conv sizes low, that's the only thing that determines size.

Some people said it's better to train high then shrink the finished lora, I haven't tried. But there are also good ones trained small to begin with. Rustle and Asanagi were made literally on first week of pony release using SD1.5 settings, and they're still the best at like 70mb.
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>>8147074
ponytards when they see a color that is not a desaturated sepia tone be like:
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>>8147074
When you haven't seen black in 8 months, everything looks deep fried. It can be easily unfried.
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>>8147080
wow cascade finetune looks fantastic
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>>8147079
he just showed a saturated sepia though, you can't hide ponyslop if you try to merge pony with any model
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>>8147084
I don't know about pony. Go ask AnimeConfetti guy if he trained MoreConfettiAlpha0.3 on pony. Based on some lora tests, it is, but doesn't say anything about it. Therefore I cannot confirm or infirm that pony exists.
About to try some cosxl too.
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>>8147084
it's fine, and even the only naifag we can spams sepia all day anyway, maybe it's just he influence of this place at this point
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>prodigy keeps diverging and producing garbage no matter what d_coef i pick
>adamw just works
Did we all fall for the prodijew scam?
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>>8147093
try CAME, but gotta adjust your lr a bit.
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>>8147087
you must be blind to mistake this look for anything but pony
>>8147088
learn english before posting here
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>>8147087
fumihiko does that to gens, yes

>>8147098
Not saying it isn't. The only recipe from the dude is probably from a past model but civitai is stupid and keeps the comments from all versions into the same space.

>Chimera. Merged my CatEar and SDXL, then merged that with hakurei/waifu-diffusion-xl · Hugging Face, then trained for forever for 1.0. Then merged in Blue-Pencil @ .25, then trained a lot more. Every so often I'll fold base SDXL or wdxl back in and start training again. Dataset is a curated and growing selection of images from various artists and 30 or so pics of top 100 rated pictures for top 100 characters from Danbooru. I just recently had to restart from v.2 since I tried to up the learning rate, and ended up with completely fried images (identical tags would equal near identical images. :/)

But all gens can look sepia and "like pony" without any pony in them. The style of pony is easy to replicate (picrel has no pony)
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>>8147093
garbage like its just a mess of pixels or just a subpar gen?
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>>8147095
How do I find this on bmaltis gui?
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>>8147107
Open an issue on his github
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>>8147103
Garbage like latent noise garbage, with loss either exploding or going NAN. Happens only on this current data set and I don't know why.
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>>8147109
Means prodigy set the LR too high. Either increase the batch size (and reduce quality) or gamble with a different seed.
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cosxl wants to show off how good it is at making vantablack
https://files.catbox.moe/fic4jp.png
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>>8147107
https://github.com/bmaltais/kohya_ss/pull/1811/
You can try a pull but idk if it breaks some requirements, or you can manually edit the files
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jordach is abandoning cascade and is now going to finetune flux nf4
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What does it taste like?
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https://civitai.com/models/642945/kaine-nier-replicant?modelVersionId=719152
Didn't she have a dick in the game?
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>>8147117
chat is this real?
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>>8147118
english voice actor of misty and jessie died today
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>>8147120
No, but he'll train the 1b model to e15
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>>8147121
>english voice actor
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>>8147120
no, and TE training is finished so he'll finally start training the 3.6b model now
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>>8147123
TE is frozen already though, so 3.6b will start at some point soon. Well... Jordach said soon™...
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>>8147118
Do you really need a lora for dawn?
>check model hash
>he made an example pic using one of the catboxes I posted here yesterday
Will you tell us what loras you used for the model Konan?
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>>8147127
There'll be a flux finetune before that lazy fag even finishes caching latents
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>>8147123
>>8147126
Good to know that the 3.6B bake is confirmed to be done with 8xAda6k instead of his single 1060 ti
1B run to e15 will be baked in parallel using that one gpu
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>>8145596

last time you niggas slept on sd
you were generating 9 fingered beasts all through 2022
I'm here to ask
any of you regards tried flux yet?

2 girls, Hatsune Miku with black ebony skin and patchouli from Touhou, miku's skin is black like an African. they are both dressed like sluts being forced into prostitution with mascara and elf ears and septum piercings. Miku had messy long hair blue eyes with horns and a tail. She has dragon scales on her arms. Patchouli is lightly pregnant with a flat tummy and is wearing a seethrough mesh bra with an with a tattoo on her exposed belly saying "Give me cock" and am ace of spades on her arm. she has messy long purple hair blue eyes pure white skin with dragon horns and tail. miku is trolling patchouli, standing behind her, rubbing her crotch from behind and grinning lewdly

they are in a grimdark library with candles on the walls and high bookshelves in an old dark Victorian mansion filled with sex toys and objects like dildos. The room has a bright window up on high with a view of to the night beach at the sea of tranquility and vibrators everywhere, there are paintings on the walls.
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>>8147121
has penguinz0 weighed in on this earth shattering news yet?
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>>8147129
You don't need a LoRA but to get a stronger artstyle and more consistency a good LoRA can't hurt.
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>>8147135
You didn't post /h/ so you should already know the answer.
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>>8147135
Yes like 50 different people here already tested it, good morning to you too.
Wake me up when there's an /h/ finetune.
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>>8147135
I'll use it when they embed an llm to translate from 'Mixu, me, sex, couch'
to that novel that you wrote.
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>>8146982
The problem is my static raid days are Thursday/Friday/Sunday so I only have Mondays to raid in PF.

I'm worried about future tiers because it's kind of shaky if we even clear this week. I ended up having to clear in PF for M3S week 1. Think I might clear on my own if we fail to clear on Friday.
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>>8147141
that's why I'm here.
why hasn't anyone made one? it's been like 100 hours already
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>>8147148
kill yourself and fuck off tourist
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>>8147144
That's easier than finetuning flux. You can do that now unironically.
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>>8145596
Anyone able to tell what model this is? Tried mixing a bunch of ponyxl from civit but couldn't get anywhere near this type of style unless cheezing it with the (3D) tag and then it still doesn't look anywhere near this good. Must be like some sort of gook model or smth
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>>8147156
it's nai
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>>8147156
NAI. Just make an artist mix.
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>babe wake up your daily shitpost just dropped
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how much has changed since the pony/nai era a few months ago? nothing?

anyway, i'm back to experimenting on pony tokens.
i'm pretty surprised to find that pony has no awareness of simple color tokens like red, blue etc. how does that even happen? not that they have no effect, but they are very weak tokens compared to what they are supposed to represent..
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>>8147144
here's what it looks like without all the embellishments

2 girls, Hatsune Miku and patchouli from Touhou, they are sluts Patchouli has messy long purple hair and pure white skin miku is trolling patchouli, standing behind her and rubbing her crotch from behind while grinning lewdly they have been forced into prostitution

inb4 anon says the most retarded shit of the century
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>>8147157
lmao that's NAI? Since when has that gotten this good?
>>8147158
Artist Mix off of who? I assume not the AI dude because Isn't training on AI Generated art a big no-no?
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>>8147165
With people getting more and more familiar with vibe transfer, I've started to care less about artist combos and more about collecting 100 pics from that guy and making style loras.
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>>8147093
>used prodigy for all my lora and it just werks
>force to upgrade Kohya because some of bs
>prodigy settings no longer work
>copy settings as best as I can to new settings window
>gives me errors or ugly thick lines for no reason
I hate fucking software updates. I hope random anon's adamw setting will save me. First time not using prodigy.
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>>8147156
It's nai, you can tell from the bad anatomy
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>>8147168
Any place you can upload or have uploaded the lora to? if you don't mind sharing?
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why does it feel like 95% of the posts from the past few threads are from newfags who don't even have the decency to lurk for a week
i guess it's summer
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>>8147172
Not him specifically I'm just speaking generally. There's no use worrying about what he used just train on what he's posted. He's already done the work for you and fixed hands etc so you don't even have to worry about doing that in NAI. On the off chance they leave metadata in on pixiv you're still better off making the pics yourself since they usually don't spend anlas to enhance.
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>>8147174
Did look for metadata at the start just to peek at a model hash or something in case there was one, but nah all scrubbed clean. I'll go make a lora, thanks senpai.
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>>8147165
NAI3 is about a year old now...
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>>8147178
Been gone for a year, last time I did anything diffusion on local was this month of last year, SDXL just got around and everyone was still using 1.5. I've been catching up the last 3 days q.q
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>>8147119
Do you even need a lora for Kaine? I remember her working on base pony.
But yes, she does.
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>>8141983
>I will try to gather newer style pics tomorrow
Did I miss it?

Lora:
https://files.catbox.moe/gfny7x.safetensors
Gave it a few tries. It has the silly faces and the body shapes, but style is weaker than I would've liked. Already doing 50% higher LR and 500 extra steps, on a fully synthetic dataset that's supposed to train very fast. So it feels like I can't go much further.

Activation tag is "fizrot-dino". Had to use one, the dataset is biased towards loli so without one it just completely shut down when doing normal women. Still makes loli by default unless you prompt for something else.

uoh of sorts: https://litter.catbox.moe/apeutx.png
Open for feedback, I can retry tomorrow.
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>>8147164
boomer prompting porn makes me cringe. I mean the verb
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>>8147180
Box?
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>>8146760
The problem is that the current VAEs used some of the largest datasets possible, we're talking LAION tier with 400+ million images that someone would have to store and be willing to train on.
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>>8146756
>>8146760
>>8146770
>>8147186
who tf cares about vaes lol they literally only change the color slightly
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>>8147180
SD 1.5 sovl? Why hasn't anyone's excellent skills translated well to SDXL?
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>>8147182
You can try doubling or tripling the step count. I usually do 3k steps at 100 pics which, at the time, people claimed was very high. I recently noticed that some loras were underbaked at 3k and I now do 6k and it everything comes out much better.
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>>8147195
>Why hasn't anyone's excellent skills translated well to SDXL?
Wdy even mean by this
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>>8147205
What I mean is that SD1.5 generally looks worse/is much harder to wrangle than SDXL right? People seemed to pour their souls into their gens just to make something decent which looks better than default SDXL gens. Why don't they spend the same energy in their SDXL gens to make stuff like Saya anon?
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>>8147195
>>8147207
where are your gens anon
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>>8147207
i know a couple of people who put a lot of work into their 1.5 gens that just started actually drawing instead of genning
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>>8147210
I'm not insulting anyone anon, I'm just pointing out that many people have months and months of experience but they don't really put that effort into SDXL, except for a few. I wish I could do what they did in SD1.5 so I could make backgrounds like that with pony for example but I'm relatively new.
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>>8147163
Unironically cascade (even 1b reso) understands colors much better. I tried blue pantyhose, light blue pantyhose, dark blue pantyhose and it produces different shades accordingly. Not to mention it can do more colors than pony, pony would just flat out refuse to do many. Weird stuff considering cascade 1b is shit otherwise.
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>>8147214
Pony can do turquiose and magenta, so I don't know what that proves.
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>>8147190
why dont u try encoding and decoding an image with a vae and say this again
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>>8147195
That's my latest one from Pony. One of my SD 1.5 was this

>>8147185
Metadata got scrubbed when I was doing spot cleaning in Adobe. D:

>>8147207
Lack of in painting support as far as I have read, been looking for better ways to inpaint with ponyxl but they all suck compared to SD 1.5. But Ponyxl brings tons of benefits over SD 1.5 as far as I have noticed with my prompts. But I also work like a long time on each one because inpainting and photoshop.
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>>8147207
Because pony plops an image whatever prompt you give it. Anons don't have to worry about prompting anymore because "1girl, sex" just works.
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>>8147218
Nice gens anon. Very inspiring.
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>>8147207
I have the exact same workflow as I did back on 1.5 days, hell, I even do the same kind of fucking slop, the thing is SDXL based models are fucking dogshit at backgrounds and vehicles on general, I haven't quite found a lora that can do backgrounds as nice as 1.5 models could

1.5 slop
>https://files.catbox.moe/z530oe.png
>https://files.catbox.moe/pryp0m.png

today's slop
>https://files.catbox.moe/lrqmw9.png
>https://files.catbox.moe/trarad.png
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>>8147203
Might try that, maybe raise the LR again as well
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>>8147223
I miss 1.5 days like you wouldn't believe but we are trapped on pony hell for now, I really hope cascade can save us
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>>8147223
Have you given wordly or comix loras a try?
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>>8147223
It's pony-based, not SDXL-based. Animagine is pretty close to AOM-tier when it comes to backgrounds. So there must be others as well.
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>>8147227
Sounds like a job for refiner.
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>>8147221
Thanks! <3
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>fang dong
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>>8147218
what an odd troll
you can image search both images and see theyre not yours lmao
>>8147229
also stolen
and you just happened to lose metadata for all of them i bet
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>>8147226
wordly is kind of hit or miss for me, better than default backgrounds but not quite there like 1.5 models
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>>8147231
I did.
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>>8147179
Your cat is a cow.
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>>8147232
Quite there would be animagine with xl_more_art-full. That one is the most detailed up to fully realistic backgrounds.
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>>8147238
>Quite there would be animagine with xl_more_art-full.
Alright, I'll give it a try later, do you perhaps have a link for those?
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>>8147231
>>8147235
Not everyone lies on the internet anon have some faith in your fellow anons. T_T
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>>8147242
>heh i lost all my metadata :^)
not sure what the point of this troll is
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For how early into Flux training we are, it already looks pretty decent excluding the next to no lewd abilities. A lot of the loras out now were trained on less then 50 images so it seems to not need that much data to learn.
I think we'll probably have an anime style NSFW finetune by the end of this year.
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I don't like schizo backgrounds. They are far to complex for current models to handle and instantly expose a picture as ai. It's "simple background" for me until we get some 70B hentai finetune
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>>8147243
Because if you put image inside of photoshop, and then export out of photoshop, metadata goes poof. Majority of people don't retain meta-data because we spent the majority of time IN photoshop to fix issues. And if you are like me, you spend a lot of time overwriting your original file as you go from photoshop back to inpaint, back to photoshop back to inpaint, etc. Not a troll, just the truth.
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>>8147248
youd obviously have the prompt backed up somewhere so you could make more images retard
youve been exposed for being an AI image thief of all things lmao
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>"pagan temple" keyword causes Pony models to start spewing gibberish

The fuck? Why???
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>>8147249
Mah senpai, I posted literally my Pixiv account.
>>8147235
It shows Following and Followers, that only shows to the person who owns the account. Are you stupid or smth?
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>>8147236
true
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>>8147248
Quite literally search on your output folder your base gen
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>>8147190
>t. retard
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>>8147255
disprove me tho
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kyots
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Trying to imitate other anon's characters is kinda fun.
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>>8147262
I think the face is a bit off
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>>8147263
Yeah, I just noticed. The upscaler fucked her face up big time.
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anons he don't wanna his prompts because you might steal them and create YOUR OWN pixiv accounts, he's no better than /b/ grifter
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>>8147264
3000x4000 y thoooo, this just a raw upscale since everything looks really smooth?
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>>8147268
are we finally back?
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>>8147268
aww he has cute little horse ears too
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>>8147268
cutie behind her
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given immediate melanin-rich male response, does it means that this >>8147235 guy was infesting /hdg/ for 4 months with low quality squeezed groid gens?
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>>8147267
No idea. I set the upscaler to be x 4, but the original image had different proportions.
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>>8147268
what breed is he?
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>>8147280
hes half pony
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>>8147268
I have seen mares obliterate stallions when they don't like them.
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>>8147257
gg ez no re
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>>8147285
To explain. I took the original image, encoded it with the SDXL VAE, then decoded it. The result is the bottom. I put them in one image and upscaled them by 2x in case anon has bad eyesight.
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>>8147259
>>8147262
>>8147279
nice, you take the prompts from the besollo lora?



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