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Answering one question from old thread

>What's your opinion on the Guilty Dash band games? Do you think that Guilty should continue releasing games under that band or should they try something different instead of them? Personally, it's a mixed bag for me ... while I liked some of them, some didn't interest me, so I skipped them.

DASH is a pretty weird series, as it looked like it was supposed to replace the Harame series that was dropped in favor for Nightmare. It is pretty low budget that can be cleared in one sitting, but I think that is what harms it more since characters are forgettable one-off.

Seems it is now just used for filler inbetween Toriko and Nightmare/Motion releases, though from a money view, it would be better to scrap and just pay the other artists/VAs to do more DLC/merch of Toriko and Nightmare to maintain some momentum of the series during lull periods (like now lol).

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Btw for those wondering why most of the threads were nuked
>>>/ck/20782545

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While the best option would be for the games to have no dlc content, but since that seems unlikely, considering Guilty's release strategy...

So what would your ideal DLC scenario / outfits would be?

Personally I would like some more outfit variety - something different then the usual santa girl outfits, gym clothes, swimsuits...

As for the plot - well the best ones would be some what if scenario of how the girls life looks like after their 'bad endings' in the main game.

Something similar to Shizuka's 'gym outfit' DLC or Rio's DLC Content in Chigiri Re.

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>>8167956
>that can be cleared in one sitting
That's good if you don't like long/multiple routes. Not everyone are into rape content, although they also have that kind of plots in some of them. Maybe they are just trying to reach different targets.

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>>8169490
Well personally, I think the Dash series would be less' forgetful', if they had some interconnected plot like the Nightmare project games.

But so far it doesn't seem to be the case.

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Do you prefer an all virgin cast or do you prefer girls / women who already have some sexual experience?

Considering the fact that the narrative in recent Guilty games is from the female pov I think the plot is better when the girl / women doesn't have a lot of experience, especially when the men put it inside the wrong hole for the first time...

Not to mention in rape type games like the Toriko and Nightmare series it's easier to recognize when the girl starts to fall if we have scene's on how her first time looked like.

>>8172853
It's 2 sticks situation, if you ask me. We can have young adults who still got their virginity, like Kuon from Yugami, or we can have high-school girls who already lost their V card in uknown circumstances, like Hyouka from Shimai. And their attitude and degree at which they eventually start breaking, may be way different.

Where did the anon who was going to translate the games disappear?

https://x.com/Guilty_WillPlus/status/1829138798372106499

Apparently another Otogi Frontier collab announced with Toriko no Urara this time. Weird choice when they could put in Nightmare characters like time.

But hey no complaint on more H scenes. Though dilemma on whether to use gems for the game anniversary gacha.

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>>8175231
*like last time

also uncensored depending if the sadpanda folks can rip the assets

>>8167965
where did you find rips of all the otogi sprites?

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>>8177751
https://otogi.wikiru.jp/index.php?%E2%98%855
The wiki, search down their japanese name (around the halfway mark, December 2021 release). Their profiles should each contain art assets, though the chibi are the base ascensions only.

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Well, it would probably fit the Nightmare project series better but what do you think about the idea of Guilty introducing 'magical girl' transformations into the plot of their games?

After all, it would increase the number of designs that could be used in the H scenes and it wouldn't cost as much as increasing the number of girls in a entry - since Guilty wouldn't need to hire additional voice actor's.

Unfortunately it wouldn't fit the Toriko series, which doesn't have 'fantasy' elements - unless it would be used as a cosplay outfit for one of the girls - after al we already had a girl wearing a magician outfit ... Guilty just would need to give the girl an appropriate personality traits.

>>8178408
We already have gangbang game featuring regular girl - angelic protector characters, completely uncensored and available for DL/purchase, let Toriko series keep their realism, and leave all this fairy-tale mumbo jumbo for Nightmare series.

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Updated Toriko heroine chart for identification and to help discussion.

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>>8179459
Would have thrown in Yurara for Shirabe Refrain

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>>8179459
Speaking about the female's in Toriko series would you like Guilty to try adding more of them in the next entry (like in Toriko no Shirabe for example) or would you like less of them (like Toriko no Chigiri for example).

Or would you like Guilty to keep the current number of females (5) that we have in the recent titles?

Personally I think it depends on the number of cg / H scenes per female - if having less females would mean that we could have more H scenes for each female then I wouldn't mind that..

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>>8178408
I'd like to see Idol clothes which is basically the same I guess. But that's probably too similar to Tsubasa. Maybe if Guilty did a Toriko fan disc (instead of the obligatory Dash game) they could get away with something crazy like Isekai+Magical Girls

>>8179509
I really like Torikohime and Chigiri, the concept of one girl getting absolutely destroyed is just too hot and Shizuru and Rio are top tier heroines too. But on the other hand I think having 3-5 heroines with an equal amount of scenes is the sweet spot to have the right heroine(s) for everyone... More than the current 5 is too much for me though.

For the ESLs: Have you tried reading the game in your native language? I always thought this would be cringe, but it really goes hard af lol. Also for me JP -> EN -> native works better than JP -> native

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>>8180513
>girl getting absolutely destroyed

I think that to truly achieve that Guilty would need to start putting the girl getting knocked up in one of the bad endings as well, which so far... doesn't seem likely.

Although the girl reaching a mental state were she actually rapes / assists in raping a blood related family member is a pretty close second option...

>>8180513
what do you think about supporting heroines being abused way harder, compared to MC? From the top of my memory I can name Hyouka and Yuna from Shimai, and Yuno from Tsubasa. She even got her own DLC, even though MC of Tsubasa is Ikumi.

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>>8181677
I think it depends on who is the villains main target is, which in the recent titles, is not always the MC.

In Shimai it was Hyouka and to a lesser extent Yuna, in Tsubasa it was Yuno.

Not to mention, apart from Chigri - which I think had mire or less equal treatment for the 3 women in it, hasn't the MC always had a slightly lighter route compared to the other female's ?

After all, imo the MC's bad ending weren't as depressing as the ones that the side female's get - although sometimes the MC gets a worse ending in one of the side routes.

They also don't get as many sticks ass the other girls, although I could be mistaken about that, but it doesn't change the fact that imo the Toriko MC always gets a softer treatment compared to the other females.

Well, it might be caused by the fact that the MC is the only one who can get a 'good' ending, which slightly changes the overall impression of what she goes through compared to the other female's who always get a bad ending in their 'routes'.

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>>8181677
I don't mind that at all, how about you? I'd even be fine with a game where the MC's friends all get raped left and right but she finishes as a virgin in the true end lol.
Yuna and Yuno are among my favourite Toriko heroines, Yuno even in the top 3 if I had to rank them. Imo Yuno's design isn't even standing out among the girls, solid but not extraordinary, but her VA and her route are just hard carrying her for me. Especially her DLC is absolute fire.

I wonder when they're gonna start promoting the new Nightmare... I can't wait for the new adventures of my favourite grim reaper and onmyoji

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>>8185601
The Previous Nightmare game got announced and started getting promoted around 3 months before it's release date.

So it pretty much depends on when Guilty wants to release Omega - if it's going near the end of November we should be getting some more details at the end of this month.

If it's going to be in December then we might have to wait one more month...

Since Omega is going to be probably as big as the Toriko series (due to having 5 girls in it) it's quite likely that Guilty would want as much time as possible to properly develop it.

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What makes you continue, well reading the recent Guilty products?

Naturally, apart from the obvious female point of view....

For me it's the:

- gangbang content

- a more realistic depiction of rape - at least from the emotional point of view, the female's don't start enjoying their violations until we are quite late into their routes.

- the fact that most of the female's start as virgin's

- the fact that we have pretty competent villains in the story

>>8167940
>Guilty Games
What's their selling point?

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>>8197462
I would say ... gang rape games from the female (victim's) point of view with most of the female cast starting as virgins.

They do sometimes shorter 'vanilla' themed games but that's not their main selling point.

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Meanwhile Simon participated in some bunny artwork event with other popular H artists. Some merch like tapestry and acrylic fig for anyone interested.
https://comic.gotbb.jp/Loveit/top.html

>>8200173
Well the first thing that came to my mind after seeing this picture is when this cure bunny girl is going to appear in either a Toriko or Nightmare project game to get used...naturally in that outfit.

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I don't know what are the chances of this actually happening.

But what do you think about the idea where a Toriko series entry MC has a character that is introduced as her mother. - a single mother, since she was never told who her father was.

That 'mother' character would naturally be one of the previous Toriko entries MC.

I think a development like that could be pretty interesting ... not to mention give Guilty a chance of returning to some mother - daughter bonding events.

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I've played through Chrigiri and later on - a bit of Chikai, and here's a thought, or rather a question, I got puzzled with. We all know the amounts of shit Rio had to go through entire Chigiri, and how it managed to stab her in the back in Chikai, even though she somehow managed to get over it and even get engaged with a seemingly nice guy. My question is, however, if something like this occured in real life, would you start dating a girl, who, even being nice and comfy, turns out to have had sex with about half of population of a small town, and her womb had more sperm samples than your average sperm bank. Would you date and eventually engage with her, knowing all those things, or rather pack your shit and leave this place as fast as you can?

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>>8203939
I think Nyotai de Motenasu Settai Ryokan has similar vibe - from what I could understand, MC's mother is working at soapland, and for some reason, probably to pay her debts, her daughter is also getting involved, starting from group defloration all the way to taking part in gangbangs together with her mother, It's not that thoroughly developed, as regular Guilty title, but still, kind of checks up with your thoughts.

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>>8203987
Considering the fact that. in real life. the chance of having sexual diseases is high if you went through something similar to what Rio went through, I probably wouldn't want to have anything to do with her.

At least in the sexual aspect, I could still try to be her friend and provide some emotional support.

>>8204020
>has similar vibe, MC's mother
Stepmother to be more precise, but it's the closest we'll ever get I guess.

>>8203939
Sounds like a cool way to bring Rio back for another title. Not that big of a fan of her design, but that'd be pretty interesting. Or they could have Nao return for a 3rd run as well.

>>8203987
It takes a special, broken lad to settle for a girl that every other dude has been with. If she went through some Guilty tier past where she got caught up in trafficking, she's likely to be on drugs, or have some serious mental issues that she has to live with. If she willingly got passed around, she doesn't respect herself, won't value sex in your relationship as highly as she should. And why the fuck would you want her to be the mother of your future daughter?

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>>8206911
>Rio or Nao
Personally, rather then those two I would like to see a gown up version of some other Toriko protagonists.

Not to mention I think Nao already went through enough ordeal, while Rio's plot development - from Chikai's 'good' ending would be hard to override without displeasing some 'fans'.

But there are other character's that can still be used Maika, Ikumi or Misaki for example ... or maybe for the first time in the series have a secondary character become a returning character - for example Hyouka or Futaba.

After all the recent titles have some secondary character's that lost their virginity even in the 'good' ending so I don't think there is any problem, besides the voice actor not being available, that could prevent them from returning in another Toriko entry.

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>>8207976
I think chance are definitely favorable towards characters who had their share of "sex-ed". Besides, don't forget about those that we've seen in their young-adult state, IIRC, it was Mio from Kusari and Yuno from Tsubasa.
Maybe there also were others, but I was mostly aroused by those two.

Is there any place I can find sprites of the villains from these games?They could be some good materials for ecchi pics.

>>8208378
If you have the game files you can extract them yourself, apart from Kizuna which has issues in extracting the content.

Look for the ST pna files, which contain all the sprites used in the game in the Chip arc files (I think they are usually in the Chip04.arc file but it might vary per game) and extract them using GarBro and you will get your sprites.

Although you will have to manually combine the body image and the face expressions since they are stored separately in the files.

>>8208878
Sounds like a nuisance. I will give it a try someday. Thanks a lot for replying anon.

Are there any other good rape VNs with Live 2D animated scenes?

Anyone has the link to the translated games? i'm looking for toriko no chikai, but i missed the link,

>>8190585
Mostly because i like the art, the gangbang scenes, and the fact that they start enjoying the sex later, anyway is there a name for that? When the girl hate being raped and later on she start liking?

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>>8210702
>girl hate being raped and later on she start liking
On vndb they refer to this process as Sexual Slavery (Choukyou Variation) https://vndb.org/g1823

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What do you think about an idea were the previous Toriko entry character returns in the role of the MC?

I know that such a change would definitely cause some changes in the plot, but still, I think it would be interesting to see how a previously 'raped' character is going to act when it's going to be up to her 'decisions' whether or not the rest of the female - naturally virgin - cast is going to retain their virginity or go through a similar experience as she did...

https://x.com/Guilty_WillPlus/status/1837118022986629502

new info next week, probably Nightmare Omega

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>>8209686
Adding the previous anon answer, you can download GARbro which is actually one of the more easier software to use, no installation or additional app.
https://github.com/morkt/GARbro
Basically a file explorer to view images and audio of VN assets, and rip selected or all of them. Very user-friendly, but the expressions need to be photoshop separately.

>>8210697
Chikai MTL is in the OP pastebin

>>8210424
Ask in the rape thread or /jp/. Shame VNDB does not have animated tags to search.

>>8211713
Will raise a lot of eyebrows rather than erections unless previous MC role was more open-ended.

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Who do you think is going to be the protagonist of Omega?

I think the most logical choice is Setsuna since the Nightmare project series started with her and with 5 females in it already I doubt that Guilty would add another female character to the mix.

>>8215184
Either Setsuna or Touma POV. With the large cast, I predict Guilty might do pair-ups to save writing and CG, unless Omega will be sold at Toriko/Tegome price and length. Pairing are likely Setsuna/Touma, Yuuka/Rinne (same artist Teeta J), Kuon/Rei (Nobleblood) and Hibiki/Karen (Maverick but unconfirmed roles).

>>8218563
Speaking of Touma - is it just me or he is literally destined to do a full 180 turn and finally demolish every hole of Setsuna? I mean, for every of 4 chapters poor guy was literally cucked by both humans, be it cultists or college students, and demons, having their way with Setsuna in every possible pose and quantity. Would only be fair for him to ravage her that in a way, all previous orgies would look like innocent petting in comparison.

>>8215184
Setsuna has kinda earned her place as the main protagonist, for me she's basically the face of Nightmare. I still hope they split the scenes equally between the girls though.

>>8218872
I wish they hadn't written Touma in at all I really can't stand that cuck shit

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Regarding the Toriko series we sometimes get returning female character's, but what do you think about returning villains?

At least have the new villains have some subtle connection with the previous entry villains, like how the Kijima family from Shimai is the same Kijima family from Shirabe.

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Nightmare Ω has been postponed to next year. It will be full price game like Toriko series.

And Aina's new episode and pillow cover will be released at the end of the year.

https://x.com/Guilty_WillPlus/status/1839209224880140576?t=xuIbXPyiUl2EWF6Q2QHpKg&s=19

>>8225391
Aina's game having the same kind of story like Helter Skelter sounds really promising. It's unfortunate that the Nightmare had to be postponed, but that Aina arc is interesting in itself. I hope they make this a new product line instead of Dash, giving popular characters some extra scenes

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>>8225391
I wonder if it means that we will get some Refrain returning character in the next Toriko entry...

It probably depends on how well the new episode is going to sell ... since I think this is the second time were a secondary female character got a separate 'game'.

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>>8225391
Well some quick thoughts...
Sorta had expected Nightmare Omega might get delayed considering the silence from marketing and considering the Otogi collab went with Urara instead. At least the postpone was announced early instead of like a couple weeks before like that Aiue Oka game, but raise questions about the game production BTS. Also now the cost is sorta like Toriko hopefully does not mean it will take over its June release slot and degrade the quality.

Aina having Refrain IF is a neat consolation bonus and hopefully means more scenes for other old characters in the future if Guilty don't need to make them older and tie in to a sequel. Also her artist Simon likely means his sorta annual Guilty quota is done for this year, though low expectation he will return for next Toriko title.

Game info
https://www.will-order.com/products/detail3844.html

Miyake (the fat UB) seems to be involved, though not sure if he already reveal his perversion and popped Aina's cherry and anal. Not sure if the twins are involved unless Noba gets credited I guess. Hoping more anime parody cosplay since her old one was meh one scene.

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>>8167940 (keeping track on releases)
Also Nightmare Maverick Motion in early Dec
https://www.getchu.com/soft.phtml?id=1305892

So basically white Christmas with Aina game around then and new year usual additional DLC for Urara, likely cheerleader Tsubasa (if going usual store pattern). Nightmare Omega hopefully between then and Toriko June release otherwise it take over that slot. Don't know about Dash but guess RIP Guilty vanilla games.

MIA on whether MangaGamer will continue Nightmare official translation and uncensoring for Deathscythe and beyond. Otogi x Urara collab whenever till next year Sep I guess

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>>8226613
I think Aina's new episode should follow after the conclusion of her route.

Probably with some brief introduction on what happened to her, before the 'events' in the new game start occurring, so that buyer's who bought this without reading Shirabe Refrain first won't fell completely lost...

As for having more episodes with other old character's, I think it pretty much depends on the availability of the character's original voice actor, since some of them might not be working in the eroge industry anymore.

>>8226669
>Also Nightmare Maverick Motion in early Dec
Nice, based on recent trends I thought this would come in mid-2025. Been waiting for the motion release to play this one so definitely good to hear

I like watching the girls getting broken, but at the same time I kind of feel bad for them. I know that the games have their "good" endings, but still.

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>>8227424
This is an "if" scenario, sir, nothing horrible happened in this standalone title yet, imagine the prologue of the original Refrain, which means they're still virgin.

This "if" scenario's plot is the following, Aina travels to a mountain village for villager's request for Finnish music at their village festival.

Other club members aka Nanami and Mimako and their supervisor aka Nao are unable to join due to schedule overlapping, but Aina has a companion, the client of this case, aka THAT UGLY BASTARD from the original Refrain.

What awaits Aina is not something she expected, rather a party filled with men's greed and sperm.

Some JP fans say it's literally "Toriko no Helter Skelter lamo" as the setting of a rape party in an isolated mountain village is completely the same as the well known old Guilty title.

The only writer of this title is Suzuki Ayuo who worked on past Toriko titles including not well received one by JP fans, which is the original Refrain, which worries them.

The price 2750 yen is another concern among some JP fans, it's much lower than half the price of the standard version of a Toriko title 8800 yen or so.

Well, at least the best character from not that well received Refrain other than Nao comes back, so not a bad news overall.

So what do you say, people?

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>>8229076
>So what do you say, people?
I just hope they keep her anal focus trait like her route in the original game. Or at least losing her backdoor virginity first.

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>>8229076
I think the price is sensible, since it's probably going to be only a single girl route (with only 2 endings a good and bad one).

Unless they are going to introduce some other female character's apart from Aina.

>>8229112
Well, considering the similarity the if scenario has with Helter Skelter I wouldn't be surprised if Aina got deflowered in her backdoor and frontdoor at the same time, similar to how Miu lost her first time...

>>8229160
>I think the price is sensible, since it's probably going to be only a single girl route (with only 2 endings a good and bad one).
I mean, the girl is getting into rape orgy with both her holes possibly getting literally torn apart, and getting inseminated by hordes of horny villagers. There would b no "100% good ending", she's ending up as used goods anyway. It's rather be "fucking grim" and "mildly bitter" endings, one of them means she's staying as villagers fuckhole, like it happened to Miu and her family, and, the "good one" - she's able to escape but being emotionally and physically broken she'll end up in some shithole anyway. Unless she's a trooper like Nao and Rio who managed to overcome consequences of what they had to go through and kept on with their lives.

>>8229160
>I think the price is sensible, since it's probably going to be only a single girl route (with only 2 endings a good and bad one).
Let me be honest, I highly doubt this Aina's chapter is going to have a good ending, there's no need for it, we already have one.

I mean, the developer Guilty can do whatever without worrying the consequence, this is an "IF" scenario, it's in another timeline different from the original.

JP fans are already talking about "Toriko IF the chapter of (whichever their favourite characters from the franchise)".

As long as the original illustrators and voice actress are available, Guilty can churn out as many IF standalone scenarios as they desire.

>>8229112
>I just hope they keep her anal focus trait like her route in the original game. Or at least losing her backdoor virginity first.
Unfortunately that's why JP fans don't like Aina's route in the original, Guilty's selling point is gangbang, yet Aina's other holes are left intact during her early scenes, JP fans see this as wasted opportunities.

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>>8229556
It depends on what Guilty is planning to do with Aina in the future...

There is always a small chance that they might try to put Aina as a returning character in a future main Toriko entry and use the if chapter events as her 'backstory' of how she lost her virginity...

>>8229556
I just checked out of curiosity and Suzuki Ayuo seems to be involved in a lot of the Toriko games. Is there a way to see who wrote which girl?

>JP fans are already talking about "Toriko IF the chapter of (whichever their favourite characters from the franchise)".
>As long as the original illustrators and voice actress are available, Guilty can churn out as many IF standalone scenarios as they desire.
Yes, and I hope they do. Imo there is a market for games with like 5-6 scenes for a specific girl + Merch. I would love to see some girls get more attention. I also wish they'd do DL releases for people like me.

>Guilty's selling point is gangbang, yet Aina's other holes are left intact during her early scenes, JP fans see this as wasted opportunities.
Wholeheartedly agree, them focusing on gangbang with only a few other scenes was one of the points that made Urara this great imo.

>>8229701
Imagine being the dude on the bottom. You get to bang her pussy but all you can see is some other dudes ass lmao

I wonder if they will keep the original artstyle (as it seems) or do a more current style like they did with Rio in Chikai. Can't wait for next week when they release the HP

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>>8229734
>I wonder if they will keep the original artstyle (as it seems) or do a more current style like they did with Rio in Chikai. Can't wait for next week when they release the HP
Here's fun fact - in Chigire RE main story you can see Rio's pubes being intact, while her DLC, whic was released alongside with Chikai but kind of continiues the Chigire plot, features her with her pubes being shaven clean. Girl definitely groomed herself while being sex toy for rival yakuza family.

>>8229556
>Unfortunately that's why JP fans don't like Aina's route in the original, Guilty's selling point is gangbang, yet Aina's other holes are left intact during her early scenes, JP fans see this as wasted opportunities.
I mean there's only so much space for character differences in this hyperspecific niche that Guilty has carved out, kinda weird that they would complain about a choice that makes a character feel unique. Aina is not my favorite but at least she has something interesting going on that sets her apart. I thought her route was just fine

What Guilty game do I want to play where the heroines are sold into the sex trade overseas, never to see their homeland again?

>>8229971
That would be Toriko no Shizuku. Also Kizuna

>>8229971
also Tsubasa and Urara (dude gets shot trying to sell her but the result is the same and the intention counts I guess?)

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Speaking about the endings...

Anyone else wants Guilty to create more endings were the girl changes her hairstyle or has some other design changes compared to how she started?

Since I only remember it happening to Kazuho and I wouldn't mind it becoming more common.

>>8230757
From what I remember, Sarah from Kizuna also had her hair down when she was already mind-broken and craved for more dicks. Sadly, I can't post any of her scenes due to her character design, you can find full CG at sadpanda.
Basically, any character, who has hairstyle that's not straight hair, be it ponytails, pigtails, braids - when they hit absolute bottom, their hair also goes down, you can notice that in any Guilty/Nightmare game.

>>8230005
>>8230016
Does it happen to all of them or just a few of the girls? I don't mind spoilers.

>>8229734
>I just checked out of curiosity and Suzuki Ayuo seems to be involved in a lot of the Toriko games. Is there a way to see who wrote which girl?
I'm afraid not...I mean, how?
Even jp users can't tell the difference between writers' styles.

>>8229701
My dream is...Aina might be in an anime?
I mean, if she returns, Refrain or If might be animated...a possibility.
I'm not talking about The Motion version, anime, not by Murakami.

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>>8231411
Her artist sorta reuse her design for 3 expy vanilla characters, and they got animated

https://www.lune-soft.jp/ova/26138
https://www.lune-soft.jp/ova/26434
https://www.lune-soft.jp/ova/26436
https://www.lune-soft.jp/ova/26646

>>8231411
>I'm afraid not...I mean, how?
that's why I was asking, I thought maybe they posted somewhere about having done this and that part, or were named in the credits or something... Similar to how the CG artists do it

>>8231075
It's usually only in their respective ends, and only one scene.
Kizuna: Juri, Tsubasa: Miki, Urara: Sawa (two scenes kinda, is captured/prisoner rather than sold)
If you could expand to girls being forced into prostitution or becoming sex slaves in the broader sense it would be pretty much every bad end I guess

>>8231839
I like the idea of girls being sold with no hope of escape or release. A girl sold into a Jordanian brothel will never go home even if she somehow manages to run away from her captors.

>>8232335
then this fits pretty much:
>Kizuna: Juri, Tsubasa: Miki, Urara: Sawa (two scenes kinda, is captured/prisoner rather than sold)

What might also tickle your fancy:
Last Waltz (old as fuck): Whole plot takes place on an uninhabited island somewhere in the middle of the ocean
Helter Skelter (old as fuck): Village in the mountains that is only reachable via one brige which is purposely destroyed to trap the girls
Toriko no Shizuku: Takes place on a cruise ship
Toriko no Urara: Girls are held on an island off the shore
Toriko no Tsubasa Yuno DLC: Yuno is brought to a remote island owned by the villain to get gangbanged for a few days
Toriko Hime: Girl gets imprisoned to get fucked by all the prisoners. She ecapes in the end though so this might be the opposite of what you like lol

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>>8232335
Personally I think that, at least in the case of the Toriko girls, they are too broken, at least in the bad endings, to even think about escaping...

And some of the girls are still being blackmailed with their friends lives / overcome with guilt over their route events etc.

>>8232600
>She escapes in the end though
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the examples above have 1 good ending where they all escape, not only Toriko Hime lol

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Speaking about Toriko Hime, personally I think that at the moment it has one advantage over the modern Toriko series.

Which is the number of guys that use the girls.

After all I don't remember any of the modern Toriko entries having numbers of guys reaching hundred's (if I remember correctly) and the girl being covered from the inside and outside in white fluids.

Although the last thing is probably partially caused by the different engine / art style used in Toriko Hime.

>>8233749
It's still one of my favorite because of that, they didn't hold back with that game at all lol

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>>8229556
>JP fans are already talking about "Toriko IF the chapter of (whichever their favourite characters from the franchise)".

I admit to machine translating text for a tweet asking for an IF version too. Sorry bros, couldn't help myself.

>>8232622
Crazy enough this is how the real world sex trade actually works, the girls don't escape even when they can. Reporters risk life and limb to even talk to them because the girls are so embarrassed by their situation they believe they can never return home and don't want their families to ever learn of their plight and just remain in the brothel they're stuck in forever in a sort of complacent Stockholm syndrome.

One wonders what will happen to them in their old age when their worth in the brothel has ended.

>>8167940
Where are their coochies

Anyone have otogi frontier mega link?

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>>8236495
Well, then considering how Guilty is pretty close to 'reality' in that aspect, I wonder when they will finally allow the girls to get knocked up...

They can always go with the option of having the girl return in a future entry as a single mother, which would be enough to deduce who the father is...

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>>8237134
4 million girls globally. Mostly from Asia. Everything in these games is not 100% possible, it's 100% happening.

But this is fiction and fictional girls have no rights. So it's cathartic watching them get hunted, raped, and sold into slavery.

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>>8237134
>They can always go with the option of having the girl return in a future entry as a single mother, which would be enough to deduce who the father is...
*recalls 200+ men orgy from Kizuna*
Yeah, good luck with those DNA tests.

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>>8229556
https://www.guilty-soft.com/product/shirabe_refrain_if_aina/

Samples have been released, and it seems that Guilty focuses on gangbang this time.

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>>8237466
Well, if the first cg preview picture is Aina's backdoor defloration seems like she got it in her pussy and mouth first - at least judging from the position of the white strains...

Anyway from the page seems like only Aina is the female character in this game - so I'm guessing it's going to have around 8 scenes - each containing about 2 h cg's and 2 endings.

>>8237466
Thank you, you made my day.

>>8237712
>Well, if the first cg preview picture is Aina's backdoor defloration seems like she got it in her pussy and mouth first - at least judging from the position of the white strains...
That's fine, JP users want gangbang, Aina had too many anal-only scenes.
I mean, anal-only itself is fine, but the bad guy...
JP fans reaction to him was "dude, you finish already? you satisfied with anal-only? Come on...take her virgin and ruin her day."

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Ripping cover image from the website

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I wonder if the Refrain IF will reach the Toriko Hime or at least Helter Skelter level of men that Aina is going to have to daily deal with...

I also wouldn't mind an 'after first session' cg, since we haven't got those for quite some time...

After all she is alone against a village full of men so it would be weird if that wasn't the case although it hasn't been mentioned how many people are living in that village.

>>8239797
I have to say, why is Aina still wearing her bra and shirt in that picture ?

I think her being fully naked or at least naked with on her socks on would fit her 'situation' a little better...

>>8240170
>I have to say, why is Aina still wearing her bra and shirt in that picture ?
The same reason Nao, Rio and Yuna were forced to wear their old school uniforms during one of their gangbang session - one of rapists fetishes. Or maybe it is her "welcoming bang", when she's only arrived at the village and didn't manage to get a change of clothes since Miyake already sold her out to villagers.

Can't figure out the Chikai MTL from the pastebin. Copying the file into the install directory and rename it to script.arc didn't seem to work, nothing changed and all the dialogue is still runes.

>>8240765
script.arc only changes font size to give you a 4th line of english text.
Here are the files you need (the translation itself): https://files.catbox.moe/77nrk9.rar

>More Aina
Based

wow, this is something I didn't expect.
I thought the announcement that Guilty mentioned on X's official account had to do with the DLC for Toriko no Urara or the nightmare project.
I'm so excited to see Aina again, although I don't know if I should be very happy about it since the official site only has three blocks showing two images in the gallery section, not to mention that the previous Shirabe Refrain If that focused on the loli (I don't remember her name) was short.

>>8242206
Yurara. One of the original Refrain's antagonists, although, considering to lore, she was forced to do it in exchange of her missing sibling.
Slightly offtopic, I wonder if there are any games or doujins featuring humiliation, feminization or even mutilation of "ugly bastards" (I know about Jitaku Keiibiin and one of protags literally frying antagonist's testicles to squeeze few more drops of sperm out of him), because honestly, those are the only fates I personally wish Miyake met after his "deeds" in Refrain.

Hell, maybe he'll even be shown as good guy, realizing how much he fucked up, selling foreign student down the river, only to be killed by horny villagers and his body disposed of.

>>8242206
Even if it is short, I think it can only be a good thing because of what it means for the series going forward. Assuming it does well (it should, given the character's popularity...) we could see this happen more regularly alongside usual releases. I'm sure a lot of us have characters we want to see more of and it's cool to have a precedent now after the first Refrain If flopped pretty hard.

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>>8243109
There is just one issue with that idea ... voice actor's.

After all ... not all of the older Toriko titles female character voice actor's are still working in the industry, which would mean that Guilty would need to either limit the character's to those who have still working original voice actor's or find and hire a voice actor that sounds similar to the original and who knows how the fans are going to react to that...

>>8243229
>voice actor that sounds similar to the original
In my case, i wouldn't mind at all, but I understand that some fans (especially the japanese) take this too seriously even beyond the game/product itself.

>>8167940
I look like this

>>8243109
I agree with you on that, in my case, apart from the main character, there are secondary characters that I would like to see more of, such as Riria or Tsubaki from the original Shirabe or Yui from Kusari or Rie from Kizuna, just a few minutes ago I finished my ranking of the girls in the series, at some point I will share it.

Do you guys ever give feedback to Guilty in some capacity about your enjoyment of the games or characters? If so, where do you shoot feedback?

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>>8244125
From what I heard, in one of the older Guilty threads, you need to actually buy the games to be able to send Guilty feedback about it.

Basically it's not something that can be done unless you actually buy the game.

https://x.com/suzuki_ayuo/status/1841360435007922355

The writer of the incoming Aina if scenario posted that he's excited to write Aina AGAIN, which means he was the writer of Aina's scenario in the original Refrain.

JP users are wondering if this is good or bad, well, the original Refrain was not well received due to various reasons.

>>8231839
I wonder if you're still there, you might want to check.

>>8244380
The writer actually has like 2 decades of writing experience. https://vndb.org/s2319

I'll give him concession since Refrain was his first Toriko work and likely there were many BTS issue since Refrain was the first Toriko to feel butchered in 4 girls and more focus on DLC. Hell I would call it 3.5 since Nao had like half her H-scenes locked in DLC, unlike Rio that had more main story H-scenes and was involved in orgies.

Guilty had improved since Shimai though it swapped now that main story is better but DLC is more afterthought and some longevity with their year end patches.

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>>8244627
I know it's probably wishful thinking, but maybe Guilty will finally stop producing the DLC content and concentrate fully on the main game content.

After all ... apart from, maybe the end of year patch, all the DLC content is produced alongside the main game content so it's not like they would lose anything if Guilty stops this practice.

It probably depends on how many of the overall buyer's are drawn by the time limited content, which usually gets leaked... so you can find it from 'unofficial' sources, even past the time limit date.

>>8243109
I agree with you, in my case, apart from the protagonist there are secondary characters that I would like to see more of, such as Riria or Tsubaki from the original Shirabe or Yui from Kusari or Rie from Kizuna, just a few minutes ago I finished my ranking of the girls in the series, at some point I will share it.

>>8244380
>>8244627
Yeah I saw the tweet and also immediately checked his vndb site. He was involved with pretty much every Toriko, so I think he's probably up to the task. Especially since he's now the only writer so he's probably gonna make sure not to embarass himself lol. Still I like that he made that tweet, it would be nice if scenario writers could be attributed to the girls they wrote, just like artists.

>>8244926
>I finished my ranking of the girls in the series, at some point I will share it
Please do. I remember a few threads ago some of us made top 5 (?) lists of their favourite girls. Imo it's always interesting to see what other people like.

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>>8244066
Rie from Kizuna and Chizuru from Shirabe are the big ones for me. Chizuru doesn't seem very popular though so it will probably never happen but at least now it is something I can dream on

>>8244287
teeta.j followed me on twitter when I tweeted out

https://files.catbox.moe/79o9xh.mp4

Also, he did tweet out to me that he spoke to the director on creating new games for fan favorites and wanting an animated version of Shimai. Huh.

Also, we have opportunities in buying the game through DLsite. You're supporting your favorite degenerate game development company, no?

Is there any chance of this series getting an official English release like Mangagamer's for Nightmare?

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>>8247801
Maybe the recent Toriko entries, since they don't have loli character types, but considering the real like rape and slavery theme those games have + the fact that it's from the victim's POV - I would say the chance is pretty low...

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What do you think about multiple endings for female character's that aren't the main character?

We already got something similar to that in Toriko no Urara, but what I meant is something that is up for the player to choose.

For example one choice has the female character give up ending in a brothel or something similar to that...

The other is her trying a last ditch effort to escape, which causes the bad guys to give up on their 'deal' and 'attack' the MC again - or both of them get captured and broken in the process.

I know it's something that would require more cg scene's, but I think that it would make the Toriko games even more enjoyable.

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What do you think are the chances that Aina is also going to be the returning character in the next main Toriko entry - with her 'experience' being based on the if scenario events.

After all guilty is probably hiring Aina's original voice actor to do the work of voicing the lines in the if scenario, so I think it would be more cost efficient if they hire the voice actor to do more then just a low budget project like the Refrain if scenario.

>>8250511
>adult Aina
Yes please

>>8250511
Highly unlikely. If they could "milk ('scuse the pun) characters who had more than one appearance, like it was with Maika, or Yuna, who had their dedicated DLC - they'd do it long time ago. Unless they make Aina's VA a profitable offer, I doubt we'll ever see her as returning character.

>>8251106
Her VA twitter seems to still promote Aina, even changing her profile pic (could be personal or agency decision)
https://x.com/fujino_purple/status/1844393788535603461

Though considering she just recently voiced a JP dub for disney show using another pseudonym...future is up in the air.

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>>8250511
I think these IF series is merely to help give older characters a spotlight again. Not to gauge their popularity as to whether they'd be a good fit for a future mainline title.

I don't mind being wrong on this though.

>>8239542
Hope at least they keep her weakness to anal as a thing. Could be missing others, but she seemed to be the only Hime-girl with that trait.

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>>8245261
Please do. I remember a few threads ago some of us made top 5 (?) lists of their favourite girls. Imo it's always interesting to see what other people like

Well here is my ranking as promised, I did it with the link shared here in the topic, most of them are the girls illustrated by Noba.
Also because I played the first three where the protagonists are designed by him/her.
And I have a special affection for them apart from the fact that I like Noba's designs.
Although I also really like the designs of Simon, Akatsuki Hijiri, Teeta-j and the guest artists, although I also really like the secondary girls, each one of them has their own personality, the truth is I think I would put them all in 1st place.

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>>8252467
Well since you asked, heres mine.
Also about returning girls, as long as they return as MILFS hell yeah, we need more real milfs in this series.

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The issue with returning character's is that the Toriko series is developed with the intention of an entry being standalone so that no matter which one you pick up, you will be able to fully understand the 'plot'.

It's best seen in numbers - out of the 11 'main' Toriko entries released so far, only 2 of them had returning character's.

But maybe the 12 main entry is going to be a little special, but there still a few months left until that is going to be announced.

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>>8252467
Here's mine.

>>8253543
I'd love to see Aina return as a MILF, but if they're releasing her IF story, I doubt she's coming back to a Toriko. Then again, she was popular enough to get 4 dakimakuras, so who's to say.

Best thing about recurring characters is that 1. They're a MILF and 2. They're still grappling with their inner demons from being repeatedly raped. And I'd say that Hyouka is definitely prime for that. Getting adopted by a rich family just to be used as their sex toy? Yeah, that's gotta mess you up, especially since you wouldn't even have a safe place to retreat too. At least with the other heroines, they had their own home or dorm room to hole up and recuperate a bit. For Hyouka, her home is where she's getting plowed day in day out.

>>8254297
>they had their own home or dorm room to hole up and recuperate a bit
Pfft, yeah, tell that to Mio from Kusari.

>>8254125
I always wondered, what kind of humidity protection all those devices have? IP68, or something of higher grade? If you look at some CG's, you can see those massagers getting completely drenched in sperm, others feature girls having those inserted while being raped in pools, or underwater during beach scenes. And that shit still keeps working! Must be some military grade type of liquid protection.

I guess, it's another mystery to solve, alongside with girls secret of not getting pregnant after another 20 men dump their semen inside victim's womb.

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>>8254666
Well it's fiction, so Guilty took some liberties in that area.

As for the topic of pregnancy, if Guilty doesn't want to put it in the main game, maybe they will actually decide to use the time limited dlc events (which are an if route, that is not actually 'cannon') to add scenes were every female character is used while being pregnant - after all Guilty certainly did something like that, a few year's ago.

The cg pic is from Tanetsuke Mura https://vndb.org/v6353 an old Guilty title that from my experience doesn't run on modern systems so you have to use a Windows XP virtual machine to play it :)

It pretty much depends on what are the reasons that Guilty avoids the pregnancy topic in the Toriko series so far...

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What kind of setting would you like the next Toriko game to have?

Personally, I would like something were the girls are actually imprisoned and have no easy way of escaping from their rapists.

Like an actual prison (Toriko Hime remake :) ) ship (Toriko no Shizuku, but with more gangbang's) or as a final option the heroine's living place (Toriko no Kusari without one vs one routes or something similar to Hyouka's situation in Toriko no Shimai).

Of course other settings that could be used is a village who's entry points are controlled by the bad guys, but since that is apparently used in the upcoming Refrain If scenario I doubt the main game is going to use it as well.

I'm also thinking about using a train as the setting, although that might not provide enough scene / ending variety.

>>8259381
if it's train setting, Tsurumiku use the plot so much in their Kan'in Series, and it works well.

>>8259381
You have me musing the idea of a locked mansion or some sort with a limited number of villains (would be cool to have a more dialogue choices or room choosing options to escape). But at the same time, it seems Guilty is gearing towards stories where the girls get passed around for high body counts.

>>8259381
I love the girls in male prison setting so a Toriko Hime with modern art would be a goldmine for me.
But it could also be a setting about a bunch of friends ending up in a weird mountain village and are held captive there so the all male village can have some fun.

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Someone uploaded the fan art of pregnant Kanna.

https://x.com/syachiku_joker/status/1847247592847253932?t=QxIJNPVuGWjkWSL_gNQ7vQ&s=19

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>>8264161
The mountain village setting is being used in Aina's Refrain If scenario, so I doubt it's going to appear in the main Toriko series anytime soon.

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>>8264161
>girls in male prison setting
The prison settinh was used again in Toriko no Chigiri relaunch last year in one of the extra event CGs if i'm not wrong. They even upscale and reuse the same Toriko Hime background. It's the closest we'll get, at least for now. But I'd love to see it again in a full plot setting.

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>>8264915
Well, personally I rather liked Rio's DLC event's since it portrayed how her life would look like after her bad ending.

If only the rest of Guilty's DLC content had a similar level of quality.

Maybe Guilty should think about merging the time limited DLC and the animated DLC into a single package, which could allow them to dedicate more resources into it and rise the quality of the DLC events a little bit?

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What kind of scenes from earlier Guilty titles would you like to see in Aina's Refrain IF story or other future Guilty titles.

Personally I would like to see a single scene that contains change's in the girls outfit - like in Helter Skelter cg scene's - for example Miu started wearing a Miko outfit and a gym shirt and bloomer's underneath that and after some time this outfit has been removed from her and she ended up fully naked in the end.

If you had the ability to dictate the next heroine for the If sequel after Aina, who would you choose? And do you have a setting in mind? Would you attempt a virgin route? Or get right to fucking?

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>>8273851
That's a hard choice, since I would like to see pretty much every Toriko girl who only had a one on one route in their main games and only had gangrape content in the DLC's have a chance of going through the MC gangrape experience.

So naturally they should start as virgins.

As for which girl to start with - might as well start with Shirogane Riria from the first Shirabe - she is also half finnish, so imo that would fit with Aina's if scenario.

>>8274740
>>So naturally they should start as virgins.

I meant a dialogue choice to get to a virgin ending, even if it's something as simple as

"A friend called me to try X, and it gave me food poisoning so I couldn't go to the destination of the game, *credits roll*

Or doing branching paths to avoid encounters.

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hey all, I've installed Kusari and the DLCs as well as the 2DJGAME patch but this is how my text keeps showing up and sprites aren't being displayed. It's only Kusari, none of the other games have this issue. Any ideas?

>>8275537
Looks like locale error. Maybe try running through textractor, since it has a built in locale fix.

>>8273851
Probably Hyouka from Shimai since her defloration was still not seen. Also perhaps Ikumi from Tsubasa since her bad end seems incompleted while her MC role is sorta focused more on Yuno. Kinda bias with Yui from Kusari too though would prefer a timeskip design.

But they and Riria all depends on whether Saimon is available and he likely only does one Guilty work per year. So if he is locked into Toriko or Nightmare, he skips to next year work hence why he can do Aina when Omega gets postponed.

Alternatively Miki from Tsubasa could explore how she got into AV voluntarily and aftermath if caught earlier without the other girls.

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>>8275213
>dialogue choice to get to a virgin ending
I have seen something like that in NTR type games.

I doubt that it will be popular enough for Guilty to consider implementing it - after all, I think the Toriko series is created for an audience that wants to see girls being forced to lose their chastity.

>>8275624
I thought I had all my locale stuff set up right since the other games work great, but after some fiddling I was finally able to get it to display normally after setting my date format to Japan in addition to my non-unicode locale settings.

Motion version of Maverick is going to be released in December as well.

https://www.guilty-soft.com/product/Nightmare_6_motion/

>Syrup release new game, great for bridging the gap to Aina if
>from female perspective
>good art
>cute heroine
>no gangbangs at all, only 1vs1
My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined

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Speaking about Hyouka's situation.

What do you think about a similar scenario happening to the Toriko MC.

Basically a scenario like this:

1.) Introduce the MC and the bad guy - with a fake personality, hiding his villainous nature.
2.) The MC finds out about the bad guy's true nature.
3.) She is gangraped to keep her silent losing her virginity in the process.
4.) We are introduced to the rest of the female cast and due to the fact that the MC already met the bad guy we can proceed to the route split choices.

Basically it would shorten the part of the game were no H scenes occur and it could provide us with the MC having a bigger role in all of the other female routes.

Basically something similar to what Ikumi went through near the end of Miki's route.

>>8280991

Would there be route choices where the MC knowingly ropes her friends into her nightmare? That would be pretty interesting if they went that route.

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>>8285563
Don't know if Guilty would create a character that would betray their 'friends' so quickly, since I think it was mentioned in the Toriko Urara interview that they want to create strong willed female character's.

Still, seeing another girl being raped from another girls pov - especially if it's her 'first time' - is imo something rarely used in the Toriko series, the last time I think it was used in Toriko no Chikai and I definitely wouldn't mind having more of those kind of scenes being made.

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i basically let in this algorithm, i am going to mass impregnant myself until i find a hentai that works ... much unlike my ancestors who died from a lack of porn.

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What do you think about adding some misandrist or androphobic female character's to the Toriko / Nightmare project series ?

I think it could lead to some interesting developments, especially after they get the usual Toriko / Nightmare project treatment.

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>>8288288
Rie from Kizuna was sort of like that iirc and she was top tier so I'm definitely down for more

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>>8288705
Well Rie is a pretty good character overall.

The only downside that I had from her route is that her and Maika hadn't started getting raped together in the end, considering how much focus Maika had in that route.

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Do you think that Guilty will provide us with another Toriko entry were the MC is a young adult women?

After all, the japanese seem to prefer teenage age victim's, since the young adult female's are in a minority - although Urara has upgraded the ratio a little bit, but the teenage character's are still in the majority.

I won't deny that the teenage girls are pretty developed considering their age, but it doesn't change the fact that I would like Guilty to start considering providing some more variety in the matter of the age of the Toriko MC. . .

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Does anyone know how popular Saiki Eimi from Nightmare x NobleBlood is in Japan?

Since I wonder what are the chances of a similar character type appearing in the Toriko series.

>>8298094
I love her and I they consider adding this type of character in some of the games. she's so hot

What kind of scenes from the previous Toriko entries would you like to see returning in the next entry?

In my case I wouldn't mind the MC being forced to witness someone important to her lose her virginity right in front of her.

Basically something similar to the Rio and Miyu scene from Toriko no Chigiri.

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>>8303699
Not Toriko, but I'd love a scene like the one from Wana II where Shigure violates Kanade.

Guilty sometimes has the girls in Toriko sometimes forced to do lesbian-ish things together, but never anything so direct. A sexy older female villain who betrays and takes part in violating the heroines would be great.

Which Toriko no game is better, Kizuna or Tsubasa? It seems like these two are the most loved modern entries so

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>>8306393
It probably depends on which girl designs / personalities you like better.

It also depends on how you look on the aspect of the girls managing to 'save' their chastity.

Since, Kizuna is, at the moment, the last Toriko title were only the MC losses her virginity in the 'good' ending.

>>8306393
Kizuna has the characters I like more (just by a bit) but I prefer the plot and setting of Tsubasa. Art style is pretty similar between the two although I give a slight edge to Kizuna there. Both are good enough that you could probably pick based on which cast of characters suits your taste more.

I actually find myself preferring the older games the more time goes on (Shirabe, Kusari, Shizuku) because I don't love the art direction of the more recent titles. The motion versions also add a lot for me; it's a real shame we don't get those anymore.

Kizuna is when the series started leaning in much harder to the gangbang scenes which is why I think a lot of people prefer it to the older ones. It kinda changed the formula and they never looked back. With the exception of Shirabe Refrain I guess.

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>>8306459
Shirabe refrain was actually released a year before Kizuna and it was the first title that had put the one on one routes to the grave, since all the girls in it had gangrape content near the end of their routes.

As for the motion versions I think the reason why we aren't getting them anyone is because they haven't been selling enough in ratio to their production costs so, instead Guilty started making lower budget titles under the Nightmare project band.

It fits with the release schedule - the last Toriko motion title (Toriko no Kusari) was released in february 2019 - a year after that the first Nightmare project game has been released in the same month.

>>8306516
>Shirabe refrain was actually released a year before Kizuna
Ah yeah forgot about the order, makes sense then. Even if there was technically gangbang in all the routes of Refrain, the actual percentage of scenes was relatively low. One on one was pretty common in that game, maybe even moreso than previous titles. Kizuna is where it really made the transition into what it is today imo

>>8295243
I hope so, it's a minor detail but I prefer them adults

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>>8308027
>>8295243

I think a challenge for doing young adults is the older they are, the harder it is to justify their lack of sexual experience or even relationship experience. Granted, I think nowadays, at least for the West, it's a good time tp experiment since apparently Gen Z dates less than previous generatoins. But I haven't seen the virginity rate (or partner counts) and it could be skewed toward males.

But it would be interesting to do a Toriko story of women who are employed at some corporation and are being traded around for the company to get the leg up. Going out of the school setting does open up a ton of possibilties.

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>>8308591
The problem is that the japanese audience likes the school setting.

At least that's the impression I get considering we only had a single Toriko title that was completely outside of the school setting, which was Toriko no Shizuku.

All the other Toriko titles as far as I remember had some school setting relations, even if in some cases it was pretty small.

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>>8308603
I won't lie and say I disagree with the japanese audience. artists tend not to draw girls as cute when they're in their young adult ages. Plus the girls can be in school and have part time jobs anyway. I dunno.

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>>8308615
>part time jobs

Guilty has already been doing that, at least in some Toriko titles - after all Ikumi from Tsubasa has a part time work as a waitress in a restaurant and even had an H scene in her work outfit.

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>>8308591
>But it would be interesting to do a Toriko story of women who are employed at some corporation and are being traded around for the company to get the leg up. Going out of the school setting does open up a ton of possibilties.

Tsubasa wasn't too far off from that, of course the characters all went to school and much of the dialogue happened there but hardly any of the scenes were actually at the school. Honestly they could've been captured/enslaved by the company early on and it would have barely changed anything about the story or h scenes. So I think there is groundwork to show that Guilty can do a scenario like that pretty well.

>>8308603
>At least that's the impression I get considering we only had a single Toriko title that was completely outside of the school setting, which was Toriko no Shizuku.

I think part of the reason there is usually a school setting is just the fact that the characters tend to be school aged, so it would be weird if they weren't attending. The setting in Shizuku gave a nice excuse for them to not be in school, and I quite liked that one so would be interested to see more games like it for sure.

But yeah in general I think they prefer to draw younger characters which leads to the school setting as a default, not the other way around. It's much easier to write scenarios with a generic school setting as the backdrop, whereas with something like Shizuku the story has to be more limited in scope because they are stuck in a specific location. Thus the types of scenes you can do are fewer, meaning the writers and artists need to be more creative to create the same length of game.

>>8305597
Hot.

What's the best female protagonist nukige (ones like Guilty's games)? Or is Guilty the best in that genre?

>>8311341
>Is Guilty the best in that genre?
They are, at least in my opinion.
There are other good (but mostly older) games like the Kyouhaku series. Kyouhaku 2 has some issues with newer windows, 3 runs fine. Syrup has games like Angeltear (also out in english), Machi Gurumi no Wana and their newest Honor Student whatever (no gangbangs though)
Those other games, especially Kyouhaku, have writing on the same level as Guilty or better imo but Guilty has hands down the best art not even close

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Shirabw Refrain if Aina feature in Bugbug mag

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>>8311722
Shirabe*

Also Maverick Motion

>>8311493

Any thoughts on Mesunie from Ail soft, if you've played it? Went scrolling through their catalog after seeing the Kyouhaku series, and playing as a teacher seems pretty interesting. sucks that Syrup barely has any games though

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>>8311493
What about Liquid's Saint Dorei series? Where do they fall into the mix?

http://liquid.nexton-net.jp/liq42/chara.html

>>8311972
Oh nice, a new episode?

>>8311972
They have the traditiona,l from the male rapist POV angle, with only a few scene being from the victim's POV - I don't remember if we even had a H scene from the female POV in it.

While the art design and the H scenes are pretty good it's still a different experience compared to Guilty games.

>>8311722
>Shirabw Refrain if Aina feature in Bugbug mag
The text in the article says "no connection with the original Refrain so you can simply have fun even without playing the original game."

Soooooo another loss for plot connection between titles guy.

>>8311956
I haven't played that one, if you check vndb there's a pic I think is downright disgusting. The one with all the tattoos, pircings and preggo, can't fap to that lol some art/some scenes just instantly kill my chi○po

>>8311972
Haven't played, kinda don't like the art, maybe gonna check the new one. Also male protagonist afaik

Btw, going back to VNDB, I noted shiravune.com has done some official English translation patches of other DMM eroge nukige. They are in fact partner to DMM and in japan apparently.
https://vndb.org/p9483

They seem to have a faster output than Mangagamer that has sorta stopped their Nightmare translations. If any of you folks want to try their luck, probably reach out to their twitter/discord to show interest in getting official translations of Toriko/Nightmare games.

>>8311722
Web article version that has less text and still nothing new
https://www.bugbug.news/b_game/183613/

>>8312760
I mean all IF titles/patches are sorta there own separate "fandisc" that is more ero minus filler text inbetween. Though would be interesting to see if there is any good ending cuz I don't see how Aina is gonna escape/rescue unless deus ex machina Nightmare rescue lol.

>>8314980
>Though would be interesting to see if there is any good ending cuz I don't see how Aina is gonna escape/rescue unless deus ex machina Nightmare rescue lol.
Considering how this EP is not tied to core Refrain title, maybe there won't be any happy endings, and she's gonna remain sex toy for that village population for the rest of her days.

>>8314980
I personally don't expect a happy ending in the coming if scenario, Guilty doesn't have to commit themselves in this cheap title that much, or are they going to test a new business model of recycling past characters by churning out if scenarios?

I'm fine with either, as long as Guilty can sustain themselves.

I personally want if Juri' chapter...as her scenario didn't have gangbang scenes, mostly her scenario was her pretending horny, I want more her "nooooooo pleeeease" scenes.

>>8316214
It will probably depend on what kind of sells Aina's IF scenario is going to have.

Not to mention the if scenario business model has one serious disadvantage, since it requires guilty to hire the voice actor that has been voicing the if scenario MC in their original game - after all at least in the Toriko series we never had a voice actor change when we had a returning character appear. .

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>>8317083
In general I think it's not that big of a problem, since Guilty tends to use VAs that are very active and many of them have even appeared in several of their games already. Though every once in a while you do have a situation where the VA moves on from h games, which makes it impossible or at least very unlikely to get a sequel with that character. For example Mio's actress seems to have retired so she probably won't appear again in the series... but that is an exception and not the norm. Almost all the characters can probably appear again if Guilty wanted them to

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Well personally, if Guilty plans to continue releasing the Toriko If scenario games, I would like them to do some crossover's.

Basically 2 - 3 girls from different Toriko games meet each other - for example they go to the same place as a summer vacation - and get involved in some trouble, resulting in them being used by some local villain and his 'gang'.

Bonus points if they are voiced by the same voice actor - for example Shion, Kasumi and Noeka meet each other during a summer vacation in some remote tourist location.

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Considering that Toriko no Urara technically brought back the all virgin female cast.

Do you think that they will also bring back the good ending were only the MC losses her purity?

At the very least add another option that will let you decide if the other girls are going to be involved in the H scenes leading to the 'good ending', naturally resulting in the game having two slightly different 'good endings'