New VN announced from Bugbug.com!
Well another schoogirl game, but considering the fact that it's also called Ingoku no Houkago the MC is probably going to have a similar ability as in the first game.As for the girls, personally I dig the bluie haired and black haired the most at the moment.I wonder if one of those girls is also going to coperate with the protagonist from the start, like in the previous game or will they all start as virgins.
>>8239077hmm, going by their clothes, i think the Silver haired-one is the teacher. The plot: The school used to be unisex, but slowly turned into a girl's school. The MC (who is both a teacher and the dorm manager) is the only dude left. Most of the girls at the school have a misandry problem, though it varies, and want him out, and he just tries to deal with it.One day, he finds a sex dungeon in the dorm, aparrently it been built before, and he can't help but get aroused there. One of the girls (the blue one) walked in on him there...and well you can guess where things go from there.
>>8239077Nigger faggot
>>8239256Well then I guess at the moment we won't have assistant character's this time around, although one of the female's is still probably going to be relegated to a side character - I think the most probable one is the silver haired 'teacher' character.
Not surprising, Ingoku no Houkago is one of the most popular BISHOP games.Looks like the sequel is going to be a mix between Reijou Kanritou and the first Ingoku, I wonder if the MC will have superpowers again.
>>8239653>MC will have superpowers againSince it's released under the same title as the first Ingoku no Hokuago I think that the MC is going to have the same or similar capabilities as the INGK1 protagonis.Although, I think it would be more interesting if he wasn't aware of them and discovered their existence due to his 'encounter' with the blue haired girl.
First of all i really liked the characters design for this game, im definetly looking forward to play this game, i hope someone share the others two pages from BugBug. I noticed something interesting when i translated the BugBug image, it says "Voice: Yes / Animation: Yes", what do you guys think about BISHOP adding animations to the scenes?
>>8239799In Japan they are wondering if it's a typo or if it will actually has animated H-scenes. It's a bit weird because they don't mention it anywhere else.I think that it could be a good addition if it doesn't mean that we are getting less scenes because of it, and the animation is decent like in Milk Factory games.
The second page. Low quality :-(
>>8239960I'd like animations. I dunno about the cost/revenue they'll get.Does any anon have numbers on how the last Bishop game did, just revenue wise? I'm thinking that Bishop may be able to get a reasonable profit if they added animations and an official english translation.A recent eroge called Summer Clover sold 250k copies. That's about $4 mil in revenue. How does Bishop compare?
Thanks for other BugBug page, sadly the quality is too low to try to translate anything, if we get a high quality image in the future im interested in reading the interview in the last page.
>>8240427Official english translations are pretty much unlikely considering the length of Bishop games and the theme they have.As for animations, I find it unlikely that the next game is going to have them, unless Bishop adds some changes to the engine they use to run their games.As revenue ... I don't think Bishop ever revealed those numbers - although from what I remember Kyousei Shihai has been in the 1 best selling rank on the getchu store for sometime time, so I think they are getting pretty well.
>no akagi rioAt least blond looks good.
>>8239077Man, I dunno who did this one, but something's different. I'm usually Mr. Haughty Blonde fan club in BISHOP settings, where taking her down a peg or four ends up with a sweet sex slave makes my dick hard, but the design on this one is not doing it for me.
when will it be released? approximately
>>8241848It was mentioned on the first page in the BugBug magazine, January 2025 - most likely at the end of the month, but will see.
Honestly, can we just have a teacher game next? the last was SNK2. Sure we had CNS 2 and Shinshoku which had adult woman, but msot of those girls lacked a mature angle thats hot.
>>8239077Fully expected a second Ingoku no Houkago considering how the first one sold well, but I think the silver-haired teacher is going to be relegated to side heroine if they keep the same pattern as the previous games since she is designed by Oonari.
>>8239077I just hope the teacher will get as many scenes as the others. Purple is great, blue is classic, blonde looks off on the cover art but amazing on the preview.
>>8241122But they brought back Mizoro Tadashi (Black-haired student).
>>8241400 Sadly she is more a Fitness loving gyaru than a haughty blonde, that why her design dont match.As for what i understood google translating 1st page (cant do the last two cause quality). Blue is a nice girl but hide feeling toward mc and they get out once she find mc in the dungeon. And Black is a refined big sister type (like that Rejou subheroine) that want the mc out cause its strange that he is the only man in the dorm.Well that google translate give to me so we have to wait to get a better version for the two last girls and the interview. So far i would like to see more cause cast seems less interesting than the 1st game.Ill attach an IA Kyrie/Tsumugi pic that what we wanted and did not get on Ingoku 1.
>>8244972Kyrie was cool and had some funny lines, but man I wish she was used like Ryou in Yakata when it comes to helping Souji to break the heroines.That's the kind of assistant heroine I like the most in the BISHOP games.
>>8244972>Blue is a nice girl but hide feeling toward mcHas Bishop copied her background from Natsukawa Asami (Ura Kyoushi)? Naturally there will be some differences, but that's the impression I got when I heard that the new blue girl has feelings for the MC
>>8245454Not that kind of feeling, she actually hates mc. New BugBug article:https://www.bugbug.news/b_game/178868/
>>8245712So based on the character description ... the only females that 'initially' don't hate the protagonist is the teacher (Sakino Aine) and the ... oppai loli (Kirari Kusakabe).Then it sounds like it's going to have a similar plot as Hokuago 3?
>>8245712In the article is confirmed that there isn't any animated H-scenes. It was probably an error.The teacher has the most distinct background in my opinion. Looks like she has been a friend to the MC for many years, but she isn't a slave or a helper. I don't think that they have ever done something like that before.The game looks very good to be honest, but I hope they fix two things that I didn't like in their latest games. The lack of threesome scenes (we haven't got any since CnS 2) and the sub-heroines.
>>8246489Teacher looks like she will be sub-heroine material, anon.She has an established relationship of sorts with the MC and Oonari's second character has always gotten fewer H-scenes since the first InH.
I really like the designs of all heroines this time. Of course my opinion can change when new informations are released, especially when the voices are announced but for now this is the order i like most based on designs and background descriptions: Purple > Blonde > Pink > Light Blue > Silver.Another thing to note is that at least with the information we have so far don`t look like the protagonist is going to have any kind of special power like in the previous games.
>>8246904>protagonist is going to have any kind of special power like in the previous games.Or it hasn't been revealed yet, since it' would be a plot spoiler.Bishop could be going with the KTJK1 scenario where the MC awakens his power due to the blue haired girl...
>>8246489Oh, the lack of threesomes and sub heroines being garbage is not something to fix anon, this is the fix. It's called streamlining the game to make it more accessible to a wider audience. This is also why we don't collect items to use on the enslavement of your girls like 10 years ago. Welcome to modern gaming, which has even infected visual novels and nukiges.
>>8239077What are good tools to extract BISHOP game files? There was a tool that I used many years ago to extract the voice files from KS and MK2, but when I tried using them on SMIE, I only got menu music and a couple of other generic tracks.
>>8248186GarBro can manage it - here is the link to the latest updated version https://github.com/crskycode/GARbro/releases.
I have read the interview in the BugBug article and they say some things about the game:- Aine is a sub-heroine as expected.- They mention "main heroines" events, "sub-heroine" events and "harem" events, so it doesn't look like the game will have threesomes.- The number of H-scenes will be close to 70 (so the same as previous games).- The volume of text and event CGs will be the same as the first Ingoku no Houkago.
Better resolution of the second page of the bugbug article
In the interview there is a part where it says the game is going to have the "re-training" like in previous games but that system was been adjusted for this game. Maybe they are going to try something new or maybe it just minor adjustments.
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So, I've played Sansha Mendan. Are all the protagonists of BISHOP like Ryou? Like, obsessed with his victims? He says he loves all of them and praises them as the best women in the world, and seems to be honest about it.
>>8254935Nope ... some of them, do think that their victim's are better then the other women, but I wouldn't say that it's to the point of being obsessed about them.Generally each protagonist has some differences in their character, although they definitely share some similarities that you notice once you play enough Bishop games.
So, considering the cg scene's that we got so far, it seems that INGK2 is mostly going to take place in the dormitory that the MC manages.Meaning that I wonder if we will have scenes of the MC sneaking in to one of his target girl's room at night and doing some naughty things to them, while the girl is still asleep.
In the BugBug article it says something like this "Another key point is that you can violate the heroines in three different locations and situations: a private room in the girls' dormitory, the school, and the training room."
The CG quality seems much better on this new one. Call me what you want, but the detail on the bondage harness catched my eye more then the leg shape. It is pretty good looking. Maybe it's because I'm a bondage enthusiast.
I just want a big tits teacher blackmail game like Shihai no Kyoudan with Rio. :(
>>8261767M/y brother.
>>8261767Where did you get this pic of Miria? is there a set/gallery you got a link to?
>>8239077blonde and black sprites look shit, especially the blonde
>>8262023It's AI art…
I'm 99% sure that is either from the blog or AI
>>8239077Is this Akagi Rio's art? Ever since Otoha from Kazoku Haha to Shimai no Kyousei, I've been hooked on Rio's milfs with fat tits, I've been dying for another hit
>>8263883No it's not. Akagi Rio hasn't done any art, at least in the visual novel market, since December 2022.
>>8263994Pity. I've gotten some of the doujinshi she's made in the years since (they're great), but I'm hoping to see the next great MILF on Otoha's level from Akagi....
I was reading the interview again, to answer the person who asked if there is going to be a scene when the main character sneak in the girls room at night, the answer is yes. In the interview there is a part that says something like this "The protagonist is in a training room full of erotic tools. Since he is a man who is fascinated by women, the erotic scenes are often flashy and extreme, using sex toys to make his prey cum. Also, he sneaks into a girl`s room late at night, and there are situations that can only be found in a girl`s dormitory"
>>8266680That's nice.Wonder how the map selection is going to look like, will we have a proper map style choices are will it be more similar to the one used in Kazoku.I also wonder how often Bishop is going to use the heart eyes in this game.
So considering INGK2 has the purple haired girl (Utsunomiya Shirayuki) wearing pantyhose as her uniform design.Anyone else wants a cg scene where the MC tears them - bonus points if it's her first time and that he uses her asshole first - although it remains to be seen if she deserves it :)
>>8273110Well, I would sure hope so, since that'd be the only function pantyhose would have in a BISHOP visual novel.
Reservations will start on 25 october. We will probably have some kind of update this week from BISHOP. I found this today, there is a preview of the drama CD.
>>8263994Maybe she is working on the new Milk Factory game.
Getchu page is already up https://www.getchu.com/soft.phtml?id=1309740
>>8277169Looking at the cg samples ... when was the last time we had an handcuffed girl lose her virginity?And from the looks of things she got invaded in her own room.I don't know what to think about Kusakabe Kirar (pink hair)i having a small fang in one of her scenes ... she's not a vampire after all.
>>8253397I really like Kirari's design.
INGK2 website is up: www.bishop.gr.jp/products/ingk2/index.html
Even through we don`t have much information yet, i`m already hyped for this game, a lot more than the previous games. This time i really liked all the heroines, and the fact that all main heroines are hostile to be the protagonist from the beginning make it better. Shirayuki is my favorite by far (i really hope she have a good VA), she have pretty much everything i want in one character (ponytail, elegant atmosphere with high pride and i like the contrast with purple hair and green eyes), sadly for some reason she was the only main heroine with no CG sample in the BugBug article and now she is the only main heroine with only 1 CG sample released on getchu.
>>8277234Err, I'm pretty sure Tsumugi (black hair) got handcuffed during her deflowering scene in the first Ingoku game.By the way, it seems like the main heroine this time (blue-haired Satori) is actually a deep misandrist. We haven't had this type of heroine for a while, and so I am quite interested in her development.But what do you guys prefer when 'breaking' a misandrist heroine type? Do you prefer her to change and now worship males but stay loyal slave to the MC only,or remain a misandrist as usual and only love the MC.
>>8285548>remain a misandrist as usual and only love the MC.This is the right answer. As my slave she's only supposed to shot that side of herself to me.
>>8241400Well, she was designed by Yoshino Keiko, the one who designed Tsumugi (black hair) from the first Ingoku. Then again, every heroine in this game will be a "bitch" just like the first game. If anything, it is surprising that BISHOP doesn't do this more often, "bitchy" heroine is probably the meat for the choukyou genre, but BISHOP games usually don't have them (at most 1 heroine if exist at all).I mean, I believe this is the first time we even have a misandrist heroine for BISHOP. I know I don't play every BISHOP game so it's possible I missed some, but I don't think we ever had a misandrist heroine before (especially as the main heroine)
>>8285854>Calls men scum on the streets>Thanks me for the opportunity to suck on my toesThat's marriage material
It is just me or this game have a lot of similarities with Houkago 3?Both Main Characters are adult and employee in the school.Mayu and Satori both have long hair and treat the main character well in the beggining of the game.Suzuno and Shirayuki both have ponytail style hair and is the type of heroines with high pride, respected by others students and the the leader of the group who want to expel the main character.Shizuka and Mihiro are both the blonde gal type heroine with small twintails and big boobs.Miho and Kirari are both the pink haired loli heroine.Hiromi and Aine both are teacher and sub heroine.
>>8287363>I believe this is the first time we even have a misandrist heroine for BISHOP.Boy you have some learnin to do.You are right that BISHOP could use more bitchiness, but I'm fine with the all bitch cast being relegated to a single franchise, so that nice and wholesome girls who see nothing but good in us and try to redeem us from our enslaving ways can get a shot at becoming our willing cumrags as well.
>>8289250You're actually right even if Satori actually hates the MC because of her misandrist nature whereas Mayu was your token nice girl.
>>8289250Yes when I think about it, both games are about an adult protagonist being kicked out of school. Though in Houkagou 3, the protagonist is being kicked out for being a genuine creep, while in this new game, he's being kicked out just for being a male. So it's fitting for the main heroine to be a misandrist if you consider that. Both protag also don't have "Cheat Power" I guess.
>>8289654It's been a long time for a BISHOP game to have a heroine to have a genuine crush for the protagonist though, who remains nice even after being raped. Then again, is it a coincidence that the game where all the heroines are hostile and bitchy to actually be their best selling title for a while?
I also believe this is the first time we have a game streamer for a heroine. Well, I'm sure we can already tell the ending scenes for that girl don't we? :)
>>8290457Best selling does not equal best in quality. If that was the case, we would have all forgotten about best girl already.
>>8290489Kutsujoku 2 beat you to it. There's a streamer heroine in there already, but it's ok, the only reason why people play Kutsujoku 2 is to play Rikka's route, and they never fire it up again, the rest of the cast is that forgettable
>>8290608The pink-haired girl right? Is she a game streamer though? I personally put streamer and "Gamer Girl Streamer" in different category since "Gamer Girl" just feel different (for me anyway). Speaking of Kutsujoku, it's been a while for the protagonist to not have any Cheat Power.this time around.
>>8290608Noeru (pink-haired girl) has the novelty of being the only non-busty character Rio Akagi has designed, but she deserved a better game than Kutsujoku 2.
>>8288639Oh wow, now I want Satori (the blue-haired main heroine) to marry the protagonist in the ending. There is just something very "fitting" about a deep misandrist heroine to end up marring the MC
next bugbug magazine article
Which girl from INGK2 would be you're first route?Personally I'm going to aim to get the harem ending option unlocked in the first playthrough, but I'm still most interested in how Satori is going to develop from a misandrist to the usual Bishop slave personality...
>>8289250I mean, it's not all that surprising, considering how limited the scope of what BISHOP can sell, it's either teacher rape or schoolgirl rape, with some experiment like Chijoku no Seifuku every blue moon or so.At some point, you're gonna run into the same stuff, the same character arcs, the same cliches, etc. For another example, look at Fire Emblem. it's a series where they've pretty much recycled every character by now, because every game features 50 or so characters across around 20 games or so by now. Characters with simple motivations like "this guy is a mercenary who only does things for money" "this girl is in love with the main lord character" "This guy is an edgelord with a heart of gold" at some point, they were gonna start getting the same stuff over and over.
You have a legit point but at the same type the main character and heroines types are more similiar to Houkago 3 than any other game by far.
>>8296083I agree that Satori misandrist is a interesting setting with a lot of potential but while Mizushima characters are not bad i still like more the others artists design. I will probably play Shirayuki first, i like her appearance more than the others heroines and the fact that she is a gaming streamer, lady with high pride and the leader of the girls that want to expel the main character can lead to some interesting CGs. I only hope they choose a good VA for her.
>>8290608I wouldn't say all other casts are forgettable. Sure not all of them are memorable, but they tried some heroine types have not been done before, and the fact that KTJK2 is still a rare BISHOP game where the ending is 'crueler' for the heroines made it even more memorable. For example, Noeru (pink hair) character, a timid girl who hates her personality and thus creates an alter fantasy personality of a cheerful idol streamer to cope. This was new character type for BISHOP and the ending for her is quite cruel, with her original personality "died" after the MC broke her. Miori (red hair), the noble girl, is the first heroine to be kept naked in his room as his masochistic pet in the ending because neither she nor the MC regards her as human anymore . Even Rikka accepts herself as subhuman and just a toy for the MC. They are all still happy in the ending of course, but the "crueler" ending make the characters stand out more desu (though t's debatable whether this approach is good or bad, I know people who have issues with this)
>>8296525Just me personally, but I feel that her character traits combination is a bit off. I don't think "Elegant Lady" and "Gamer Girl Streamer" is a good mix together (if anything those are opposites). I think Otaku/Closet Otaku is a better mix, even better if she is a hardcore otaku with many hentai references.
Sorry, my comment above replied to the wrong comment. I was talking about Shirayuki .
>>8296569Well, like everything it is a matter os preference, there is no right or wrong answer. I like her setting with gamer streamer and elegant lady. Just curious what is the route order you are going to play based on in the information we have right now?
>>8296980I think this is the first time we have a misandrist heroine, so of course, I'm interested in how will this trope plays out. It's kind of funny that it took BISHOP this long to have a misandrist heroine, considering they are in the "Choukyou" genre. Blonde bitches are usually interesting in BISHOP as well.
>>8298721They've had them before, it's just been so long that people have forgotten.
>>8296452I really feel like (unsurprisingly) this game is just running back the cast of the first one. Looks wise, besides the main heroine having blue hair rather brownish grey hair, they are all similar to the character of the same archetype (though I suppose the blond is a gyaru, rather than a rich girl this time).
>>8303503The female cast might be similar, but the situation they are going to find themselves in is going to be different then in HG3. For the simple reason that it doesn't seem from the cg's released so far,l that the INGK2 MC is capable of discharging the amount of white stuff that HG3 MC could.While it's unknown if the MC is going to have any cheat abilities (since the feature page isn't out yet) it seems like he will need a slightly different method of trying to capture his target's compared to HG3.Not to mention the setting is different as well, HG3 was school focused after all, while in the case of INGK2 most of the action is probably going to take place in the dormitory that the MC manages.
Man after playing through a decent amount of BISHOP's catalog, there's some top tier heroines even if the plot/setting can be repetitive at times. Any recs for nukiges/nukige companies on their level heroine wise?
>>8308581If you don't mind the girls being passed around as public use cum dumps - then I would say that imo the girls from Guilty's Toriko series can have pretty good designs - it also keeps with the Bishop's theme of having to a large extent virgin female's in the cast.Liquid's Saint Dorei series also have some nice designs imo.But that is only if you can tolerate the girl being passed around to other guys - since as far I know only Bishop keeps up with the protagonist exclusive use policy.Farside's Anata ga Iru no ni Netorarechau https://vndb.org/v27387 has a more Bishop like approach, since I don't think that the girls are used by anyone else then the protagonist, and the girls designs are pretty good imo, it also has an interesting NTR approach with all the girls being lesbians and the MC 'forcibly' turning them straight (or at least bisexual)
>>8308581Believe it or not, it is hard to answer this if you want a similar formula with BISHOP games: Choukyou (Rape / Mind break / Sex Slavery) and "Exclusive use of the Heroine for the MC only",Just like the comment above me, most Nukige games that operate in the "Choukyou" Genre usually have their heroines to be passed around and fucked by several guys (or monster in fantasy setting, especially in magical girls genre). Hence these games has various scenes that BISHOP games never do, like Gangbang , the heroines becoming public cum dump for any passerby, or rape with monster elements like tentacles,etc. If these are to your taste, then try Liquid, Lilith, Guilty, , Tsurumiku, etc.If you don't want the heroines to be shared with other guys besides the MC, then "consensual/Non-Rape" Nukige usually does this. Most Nukiges are in this category (if you exclude low budget NTR), so there's plenty of options but you will not see mind-break / sex slavery the way BISHOP usually do. But there are some games where you "train" the heroines to gradually becoming a massive pervert for you but in "consensual/Non-rape" setting. Generally speaking, the "training" part will note as vulgar and the heroines will not be slaves for the MC in the ending, just becoming a pervert. But if you want to see Nukige in great art styles, try Atelier Kaguya (or other Atelier brand but usually the art is not as good),Milk Factory, Escude (for raising stat simulation games), Astronauts, Waffle, Argonauts etc.Otherwise, if you don't mind low budget ones in Choukyou genre, try Miel. Lune is a bit inferior in terms of budget than BISHOP but generally dabble in Mind Control. You can also check POISON.
I have been interested the game from bishop and guilty for a while now. I am a fan of a pleasure/romantic break type scenario where the heroine fall for MC at the end, especially if it have pregnancy sex. I am currently interested in Houkago 3 and maybe playing Mesu Kyoushi 4 and Kutsujoku in the future, so I'm curious on what does people here thinks of them.that said, I saw it here before that Kutsujoku wasn't well regarded by the fan due to how cruel it is to the heroine compared to the other bishop game, so I would like to ask how much post breaking loving sex scenario are there? On a side note, I was considering asking the guilty thread at some point. I am considering trying out Toriko no Kusari, how does it compared to bishop game in general, not in quality, but in term of scenario. It seem that there isn't any pregnancy ending, but I am curious if there are any ending where the girl fall to pleasure and enjoy getting fucked.[spoiler]Also, why are appearance bishop small breast heroine so inconsistent between game? some game have them, and the sequel just went full on big breast.[/spoiler]
>>8309286"Falling in love" is a pretty hard thing to define in this genre, since most of the heroines are trained to be with the protagonist. It's not like it's something they chose out of their own free will. You do have exceptions here and there, usually main heroines who, while not too thrilled about being forced to be a sex toy, they are either perverted enough, or fucked just the way they like it enough, that when they accept being sex slaves, they genuinely love it instead of being mindbroken into it.The usual other "love" cliche that BISHOP gets into is the girl who is/was in love with the protagonist before being targeted as a potential sex toy candidate. Nomiya Nanako from Kuro no Kyoshitsu for example. Now on the Kutsujoku series, I personally find it a bit overblown when they say that it's "crueler" to the girls, considering we're playing rape simulators where we rape girls until they like it, so it's less that it's crueler to the girls, and more that it's a dose of realistic. In that a relationship where the base of it is "I can rape you anytime I want to and you can no nothing about it" leads less to love and more to an abusive relationship, where the girl is never happy. And that bothers some people who play these kinds of rape simulators. Don't ask me how this bothers them but the rest of the rape doesn't, I'm not a psychologist and I'm not gonna armchair one on the internet.
>>8309408Guilty games have several different settings, but most of them (including the Toriko series ) are mostly about the heroines getting gangbanged by multiple guys, so is you are looking for romantic relationship, that's out of the question (there is some GUILTY games without gang bang but it's rare). So in BISHOP games, the MC rapes the heroine, but in Guilty the Heroine getting gangbanged are the MC (story is in their point of view, not the guys since there's multiple of guys at since). So in the ending, they are still used by multiple guys.
>>8309408Thanks for the replyFalling in love in this case refers to the latter two case you refers to: came to actually enjoyed getting fucked by the protag and look forward to it, to actually falling for the protag and treat them like an actually lover, with either sense of possessiveness or eagerness to share him with her friends.As for Kutsujoku I was curious if most of the girl are happily enjoying sex with the MC at the end, as there are at least one girl I wish have a "happy"(as much as it can get for these genre) ending. Personally, there is a huge difference between girl coming to enjoy getting fucked and whole hearty give herself to the protag and simply resigned to becoming the protag sex toy. It's the change in or capturing the heart that I enjoy, perhap something like those from lune's Aku Onna Kanbu, or witchflame dokusenjima, where the girl more or less became the lover to MC, compared to general case of Kuroinu, where the girl either just enjoy the sex itself, or give up resisting. I was wonder which case each girls head toward.>>8310062For Guilty, especially, case of Toriko no Kursuri, I already expect no romance, I was wondering there are fall to pleasure ending, or it's just simply give up resisting ending.that said, how was Houkago 3 considered here? asking out of curiosity.
>>8310930The first Kutsujoku game is the most controversial because it is the first time modern BISHOP has not used its usual formula of "Happy Break." for their heroines The girls have different fates, but generally they just "broke" and not the usual "Happy-Broke". The MC is also not well like, dubbed as "Carrot Boy". Perhaps BISHOP was just experimenting and taking risk for using different formula, but it was not well received. Hence why in the 2nd Kutsujoku, they bring back "Happy-Break", but the heroines' fate was still crueler than most in BISHOP games, but still happy as the MC sex slave, The 3rd Kutsujoku game completely forgo the "crueler" aspect of the series and plays as standard BISHOP games, the only thing the keep same was the MC's power. As for Houkagou 3, the MC is an adult male, and a degenerate who can produce a lot of semen and ejaculate inappropriately in school due to having high libido. The students are disgusted so they make a movement to have him fired. After learning about his almost inevitable dismissal, the MC decided to rape the girls before he have to leave the school for good. Interestingly, the MC actually got fired in almost all of the endings, the heroine's route you "capture" decided to leave the school and abandon her family so she can follow and live with the MC to be his sex slave.
Is there a way for me to watch subbed playthroughs of bishop games, or at least the sex scenes?
>>8312338Err, I'm not sure, but BISHOP does have a channel at https://video.fc2.com/. They post opening movies of their games, some short trailers, short sample videos, and countdown release trailers for their games. It's not much and is censored most of the time.Either way, this is the link for the Opening Movie of Houkagou 3 (Censored unfortunately):https://video.fc2.com/ja/a/content/20171027nSRpCYZX
>>8311021I see now, thanks anon.>Happy BreakThis is it, this is the term I was looking for. This kind of break is my favorite.This is more of a personal curiosity at this point, what's /bishop/'s favorite game in general, and which is considered the best here?
>>8314760>favorite game in generalBishop's game have overall a pretty similar plot design structure so it ultimately depends on your female (victim) preference and what kind of personalities they have.Ultimately it's based on the preference between schoolgirls (teenagers) or do you like teacher's (young adults)...The best game also depends on those preferences, personally I like:- Houkago 3- Kuro no Kyoshitsu- Kazoku - which has a nice balance between young adults and teenager females imo. - Ingoku no Hokuago- Kyousei Shihai
>>8314760>>8314912It used to be that the favorite game of /bishop/ was Sansha Mendan, but that was because it was the only one we got translated. Mind you, it's still one of the best things Bishop has ever made, but there was a clear bias towards it because we couldn't really read the rest of the catalogue.I still have a soft spot for it too, not just because of the teacher subjugation, but because I want another game with a threesome gimmick. Give it to me Bishop. Other than that, as I already mentioned, teacher rape is my jam, so the Mesu Kyoushi series alongside the Shihai no Kyoudan series are my bread and butter.
>>8314760When it comes to the Japanese fanbase, they really love the schoolgirl setting. So much so that Kagami (one of the most prominent BISHOP's artist at the time time) tweeted to beg the fans to let him draw something else outside schoolgirls for BISHOP games. In the end , he quit and now works for Gacha games (destroyed of all games in the industry). Kagami's departure marked the end of an era for BISHOP since his art style is really distinct. Post Kagami era is usually referred to as "Modern Bishop" while Kagami's Era is referred as "Old Bishop". Considering BISHOP rarely go outside the school settings(be it students or teacher) , I guess the Japanese fanbase never really changed all this time, even for modern BISHOP era.
I wonder what kind of lewd outfits INGK2 is going to have.So far the only leak is the gym clothing scene, which seems to me to be some early route content.
>>8318910I think this is the first time that I saw a BISHOP heroine with a toned body and I actually dig that nice detail.
>>8318910Gym clothes and themes is mainly for the blonde, her character description said so anyway. Hence why her body is toned. Speaking of body, is it me or is the art style different for this game? I'm not sure why, but I feel that even though they are high school girls, as usual, they look somewhat older compared to the last games. I think their body proportion are different and look generally taller, hence why they seem more mature now. ( I mean, try to compare them with the image of Sarasa above from the last game).
>>8320589Thats something i noticed too and like this detail. BISHOP games had a lot of athletes heroines for example but the body design looked the same was others heroines. To be honest i have high hopes that this game will be one of the best BISHOP games, this is the first time that im looking forward to all heroines routes. I still think BISHOP should make 4 main heroines and no subs through, this way the main heroines would have more scenes post corruption like Mesu Kyoushi 4 had.
I'm surprised to see Poro is still working on Kazoku adaptation, but I won't complain, more Otoha is always good for my soul.
Speaking about Kazoku I wonder what are the chances that we will get a sequel to it.Basically new MC and female's,but a similar theme as the first one.I know that the original hadn't been selling well, at least that's what I got, but that might have changed slightly after Poro released so many adaptations of Kazoku.
>>8329792Do Kazoku 2 but make the mother a principal/school teacher. Like in Sansha Mendan.
>>8329792Kazoku sold alright, it just wasn't the best selling title BISHOP has ever done, which is the only thing the sales numbers people really care about, beating the previous one. Now, as far as another one it's gonna be hard. The premise itself is pretty unique "I hate that my father cheated on my superhot stepmon and pretty hot stepsisters, so I'm gonna claim them as my own using the strategic powers of penis" is not something you can really milk multiple times, so you're gonna have to come up with an entirely new premise. And this is gonna sound like sacriledge to fans of Kazoku, but it's still true regardless of whatever they might think: there are better games out there doing the Oyakodon thing, including the threesomes. So it's gonna be harder to greenlight another Kazoku when they can instead cater to their niche by making more teacher/schoolgirl rape.
I'm not sure why Kazpku did not sell well enough to earn a sequel. It was still a schoolgirl-themed game. It's also not highly rated compared to other BISHOP games on Japanese websites Perhaps because of the NTR? Or maybe for having only 3 main heroines?. Or perhaps married heroines is not received well by BISHOP.
>>8333824Personally I would say it was a family themed game.Sure we had schoolgirls in it, but most of the action has been taking place at the MC house with the main feature being promoted as infiltrating the three main girls rooms while they were sleeping.I think there are 3 main reasons, which combined and caused Kazoku to not be received well.The first one, is that the route choices are a little more complicated compared to the recent titles we received, before and after Kazoku has been released.The second one, if I remember correctly, is that Kazoku has been the first title were the separation between sub and main girl status has been so obvious, which might have prevented some potential buyers from actually buying the game.The third is the non virgin status of two of the Kazoku girls - most of the Bishop player's probably like their girls to be pure - before they get dirtied by the MC hands - considering how quickly Bishop got rid of the gangbang continent after Kagami has left them and now, it's pretty much, absent from Bishop's recent game catalog.
>>8334124It's a shame so much about selling these games is about quantity over quality, they probably would have had more success with just focusing on the watase girls and not putting the obvious side characters in but then people would complain they're not getting enough bang for their buck.While it is fun to speculate on ways BISHOP could shake up the formula they are just incentivized to keep moving the chains and churning out the product they know will keep the lights on. >>8331246I'm curious which games and companies you think are doing the oyakodon thing better. Not that I disagree with your point (Sad as I am to admit that they are better off doing what they know) I suppose I'm looking for recommendations from someone who already played KZK (which is already one of my favorite oyakodon games).
Sharing this from Guilty thread, for the previous anons wanting some romance, it seems there is a revival of the Harame series, which is basically knock up one or more girls. Likely some romance scenes but still mostly nukige.https://www.getchu.com/soft.phtml?id=1314057&gc=gc
no new cg, but Bishop revised ingk2 prologue page
It was expected that BISHOP was not going to update the website with new information in november. Last time with Kyousei Shihai was the same, they release the wbsite in the first month after the announcement of the game but in the second month we had no updates in the website. The only difference is that last time CG pages was released already but at the same time we had less CG samples in sellers websites like getchu, thats why we can say that we have more or less the same amount of information we had in the last game in the same period.There are only two months left now to the planned release date, if BISHOP don`t start updating regularly from now on there is a chance that the release date will be postponed (i hope it doesn`t get postponed).
>>8340484While I always appreciate the reference to other interesting games, I don't think this "qualifies" to romance or BISHOP-style romance. The game is about an AI telling you that your child can be great heir for a conglomerate family (with the protag being a child of the mistress of said family) and so they forced him to breed with the maids heroines, All of the heroines already give consent for it with their own personal goal and reason for accepting. So no real choukyou- training , but the protag have a twisted personality, so you can certainly expect twisted sex, but the game is mainly for to endure those and get impregnated. So in conclusion, not really a "rape-romance" genre.If you want "vanilla romance nukige", I believe Atelier Kaguya Bare & Bunny is more suitable. The art style is really good (though mainly deal with older-sister type onee- san types).. They are also releasing a new nurse-themed game in January next year, the same date as with this BISHOP game
>>8344676>I believe Atelier Kaguya Bare & Bunny is more suitable.The problem with that is that it's downright impossible to get the stupid things to run. They either run with no problems or don't run at all.
Where do i even get the first Ingoku no Houkago without my antivirus flagging it as a Trojan
>>8349417Just have your antivirus to make an exception for it. This is very common for any cracked games.
>>8346381You will not have a problem if you use Locale Emulator. I like Kaguya Bare & Bunny, though I still prefer BISHOP. That said, arguably Atelier Kaguya Bare & Bunny is more popular than BISHOP in Japan. Their new nurse-theme games was announced last week and already have more pre-order than Ingoku 2 (they are both will be released in January 2025). Heck, the game already have more pre-order than most games that will be released in December. Unfortunately, I don't really understand the appeal of nurse games (the MC is sick or injured so he will have erotic acts with the slutty nurses). I don't think you will be in the right mood if you are sick enough to be hospitalized in the first plae.
>>8349681It's the uniform. Same deal with women who are into police or military, it's all about the way they're dressed. Nurses in real life don't even use those uniforms anymore, it's only a fetish thing now.
>>8349681Yeah, no. I've tried that shit before. I even went as far as to go entirely japanese on my PC for reals without locale emulator. Swapped to the time zones and everything, the shit doesn't run, which pisses me off because I've wanted to jerk it to their sister games for ages and they never run. The closet I've gotten is one of the games snagging while trying to run. as in, you can click on the executable, and the game never runs, despite appearing on the task manager as a "running" program and consuming resources.And while I'm willing to do a lot of shit for jerking off, I'm not gonna go as far as getting a new computer or doing a fresh install of Windows to see if that works. I'm willing to believe that maybe the cracks or the downloads are the problem on my end, but I've tried using different ones and no dice.
>>8344676>vanilla romance nukigeI'd say the new Summer Clover game on Steam is one of the best vanilla I've seen. Full english translation.
Whats the best bishop girl colour/archetype, and why is it blonde.
>>8351995Haughty/pretentious.
>>8351995I've always enjoyed the rich oujo-sama heroines such as (Shuri, Suzuno, Hisui, ETC.)
>>8352674I like high pride ojou-sama heroines too. Suzuno and Shuri are my favorites and Misonoo Mei did a good job in both games as CV. Thats why even if we don`t have a lot of information about the game yet my favorite heroine in this game is Shirayuki, she is the same category as high pride ojou-sama.
>>8352723Misonoo Mei is one of my favorite VA's there is just something about her voice that gets me going
Melonbooks and Toranoana already have sketchs of the reservation bonus.
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>>8354245>>8354249Well, so far it doesn't seem like the extremely lewd outfits have been revealed yet.Although having to wear a skimpy bikini is definitely a humiliating experience for Kirari - wonder when this outfit is going to be used in the actual game.
Which mc do y'all think has been the most evil, out of all the games we've had?
>>8355299Kutsujoku 1 and 2, without hesitation which makes you wonder why these guys even wants their targets to give birth to their babies.The first two Mesu Kyoushi's MCs and Tokubetsu Jugyou's were also pricks from what I remember about them.
Amazon and Trader have sketchs of the reservation bonus now.
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>>8349712Hmm, I used this and never had a problem. I guess each computers are different....https://github.com/xupefei/Locale-Emulator
>>8356927Wow, I guess her route is truly gym-themed huh
>>8357257Has there been anything mentioned about the MC having some kind of ability.As for the two new scenes, having an misandrist girl forced to use her own panties to jerk a dick is quite nice.I also wonder if the bloomer bondage scene is going to be done from the girl's POV.
>>8357310There is not a single mention about the protagonist having any kind of special ability in the information released so far. This month BugBug BISHOP article is 6 pages but i only found the first two pages today, maybe soon we will find the others pages in the internet.
>>8357322There is the second and third page, not so much stuff about black haired but blonde has a bondage and one slingshit bikini.
>>8358189 And the last two, Kiari clearly grow on me and might or not be the best heroine, Teacher dont have much new stuff cause we know she has the shorter route!! Well hope you guys anons can get more info form the text now that ive shared the article!!
>>8358189Thanks for sharing the others pages. I wonder if the Shirayuki artist is behind the schedule because she always have less samples and the samples we have are all from the beggining of her route.I think there is a good chance BISHOP will start updating the official website this week. In the last game they did the same.
While i was searching for information about this new game i found this:https://uesugi-museum.jp/%e6%b7%ab%e7%8d%84%e5%ad%a6%e5%9c%92%e3%83%bb%e6%94%be%e8%aa%b2%e5%be%8c%e3%81%ae%e8%aa%bf%e6%95%99/It is amazing how AI while not perfect yet is getting better and better in generating images. Sadly i can`t find where to download this and i don`t have access to dmm to buy it.
>>8358566It was released on 10/31/2024 and looks like it is sold only on DMM.https://dojindb.net/w/549230
>>8358189The Blonde one with Otoha's gym suit, based as fuck.
>>8358189Mihiro (Blonde) is seriously going to be my favorite heroine of that title.Big tits, shaped body and the most interesting costumes for now. Keiko is truly delivering.
>>8359637Just admit you are Otoha simp and urge for any big tits blond hair female only because she resembles best mom in Bishop brand.
I dunno. Bishop hast been so basic for so many years now. Where are the truly big tits? Maybe with inverted nipples. Heroines drowning in gallons of cum while squirting like a broken hose. The rawness of the sex ist just so lacking. Basic school girls with similar body types in fairly tame scenes ist all that's happening these days. Basically, make another Mesu Kyoushi PLZ
>>8359820Bishop is producing content that is selling well in Japan.If the teacher / mature women content was selling as well as Bishop's schoolgirl content they would produce more of this type of content.Basically Japan likes this 'basic' schoolgirl and that's the main reason why Bishop continues producing it.
>>8359935>Bishop is producing content that is selling well in Japan.No, BISHOP is producing content that sells to their niche. Which is not to say that the traditional japanese schoolgirl is unpopular, half of the hentai games and visual novel out there in the wild are all about schoolgirls after all, but the issue for BISHOP is that whenever they branch out to do something else beyond their schtick of schoolgirls who get happy about being raped and become your cumsocks after you rape them about 5 or 6 times, they don't manage to grab new paying customers, so they have to default back to what they're known for.It's a bit like when a rockstar goes acustic for a while, we all go "Yeah, it's cool you can do that, but go back to the electric guitar please"
>>8359728…Anon, the things I would do to see another Akagi Rio-designed character in a BISHOP game are surreal.Otoha, Miria, Anju and especially Nanao have some of the best character designs among the BISHOP games I played.
>>8360331After a two-year hiatus in the industry, she is finally involved in Eroge again. This time, it is for this Miel Games, which will actually be released this month. Perhaps it can satisfy your craving for now?
Feature page is finally released: http://www.bishop.gr.jp/products/ingk2/feature.html
>>8362661From the looks of it,it's confirmed that the protagonist doesn't seem to have any supernatural abilities.Instead the focus seems to be on 'night attacks' done in a dormitory setting.
>>8362661Voice samples are also out: http://www.bishop.gr.jp/products/ingk2/character.html
>>8362702I like the CV for Mihiro and Kirari but i dont like the CV for Shirayuki that much to be honest, which is a shame at least for me because Shirayuki was my favorite heroine, not so sure now.
>>8361966Looks great, indeed. Miel is not my favorite producer, but they made decent works over the years and it's always great to see more of Rio's works in the industry.>>8363239They picked a lot of veterans this time. Sakura Momoka (Satori), Himuro Yuri (Shirayuki) and Yuika (Kirari) are names I know very well. Meanwhile, Hazuki Saya (Mihiro) convinced me thanks to the samples and Aine's voice actress is a newcomer, but still sounded nice.
>>8363320At least for me Misonoo Mei would be the perfect CV for Shirayuki.
>>8363443According to vndb, Mei is busy with another work from another company that releases at the end of January and is also involved in a work with two other titles with an unspecified release date - and in one title she voices two character's at the same time.Probably INGK2 release date was too close with her other work title...
Some more reservation sketches
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What do you think about the map in ingk2.Seems like Bishop is continuing to use the icon style from Kyousei Shihai.
>>8357310The MC does not have cheat power, but seems to have strong aphrodisiac, strong enough to make the heroines lactate. Though I'm not sure how much the MC will use it for the girls training, it is mentioned that the aphrodisiac will always be used and have central roles in post-break sex scenes. In the first game, the aphrodisiac was the MC's semen so I guess the theme will somewhat repeat
>>8364740True, I wonder how that actually works, without the girls noticing it.After all an 'artificial' aphrodisiac should be easier to notice.Although with the entire female cast being virgins they will probably be too overwhelmed at the start of their routes to notice it.
>>8366097Seems like my earlier choice of words caused some misunderstanding.It is mentioned that the aphrodisiac will always be used in the post-break scenes, and it is strong enough to cause the heroines to lactate. Hence why we can see the heroines lactating in the post-break scenes without them being pregnant. However, there is no mention of the MC using the aphrodisiac for the heroines during their initial training. However, there is one scene which mentions the blue-hair heroine is currently horny after the aphrodisiac is applied to herduring her sleep. It is mentioned that MC find the aphrodisiac recipe in the training room
Download page with leaftlet and theme song released. BISHOP will probably release CG page this week too.http://www.bishop.gr.jp/products/ingk2/download.html
>>8366594Sounds interesting and also I wonder who made the training room in the first place.
Alice-kobe reservation benefit.
>>8369463Would be pretty interesting if it was revealed that this was done by some old Bishop protag. Like this is the old training room from Tokubetsu Jugyou 3 SLG
ingk2 cg page: https://www.bishop.gr.jp/products/ingk2/cg.htmlAt least the teacher has some nice outfit, despite being a sub heroine.
>>8371993Actually, if we are talking about an aphrodisiac that makes the heroines lactate and combines it with the dormitory and secret training room, then the MC from Reijou Kanritou would be the closest.
>>8373775I had forgotten about that, you're right. Either way, would be cool if it turned out to be a secret sequel from some other game.
So how many scenes do you all think we are gonna get before the girls breaking scenes?
>>8375672If you mean when the girl starts showing sings of breaking down - 6 - 7 scenes (including the defloration rape scene).If you mean the moment when the 'retraining' scenes start to appear then about 4 for the sub heroine (depends on how many scenes she actually gets), 8 - 9 for 'main' heroines. At least that's my impression based upon the previous Bishop games.
New BugBug article https://www.bugbug.news/b_game/188751/
>>8376720Image from the article above
>>8376720>>8376732Definitely looking forward to Satori the most out of all of them
The article does not have a lot of new images, but it gives more details on how each heroine route will go:1. Satori (Blue hair - Main heroine). Just like Mafuyu in the first game, she is a 'nice girl' who hides her shrewd and manipulative sides from everyone. Since the MC is really upset for being betrayed by her 'nice girl' act, her training is the most humiliating since the MC want to punish her the most.2. Mihiro (Blonde Virgin Gal). As mentioned before, she loves exercising in gym to maintain her beautiful body. Funnily, the BISHOP team themselves admit that she has the nicest body in this game, hence her training scenes will ensure that all her beautiful 'assets' are used. Her routes naturally have gym elements to it (gym clothes, gym equipment,etc). She is a virgin gal so she has more innocence (unlike slutty bitch gal).3. Shirayuki (Purple hair - Streamer & Rich Ojou-sama). As a rich Ojou-sama heroine, she is very condescending and arrogant to the MC who has a lower status than her. So her training will focus on breaking that ojou-sama pride and arrogance. Since she is also a famous streamer, of course streaming will be part of the training.4. Kirari (Purple Loli). Basically taming a conceited, cheeky and bratty child, Of all the heroines, this bratty girl is actually the 'weakest' to pleasure, thus increasing the sadistic side of the MC. So yeah, basically an adult MC teaching a bratty Loli girl who's in charge with sex.5. Aine (grey-hair Teacher) is the only adult in this game and, as such, has a voluptuous adult body compared to the student heroines. Since she usually just piles all her problems on the MC to fix for many years, her route is about the MC finally venting his frustration he has had for years without mercy.So, who's your favorite?
Oh, also forgot to add that Satori (blue hair - Main girl) is a misandrist. So despite her nice girl act, she is secretly plotting to expel the MC and thus the MC feels betrayed. And also she is the first one to be raped by the MC since she caught him red-handed entering the training room so he raped her and used it for blackmail as usual. Also mentioned that even though she is a man-hater, her body is highly sensitive and capable of feeling intense pleasure.
>>8376828I'd say that my personal rating for now is Mihiro > Satori > Shirayuki > Kirari > Aine.Personally, I prefer Aine over Kirari, but the former being a sub-heroine means she will have less content so there is that.
>>8376828For me it's Satori->Mihiro->Shirayuki->Kirari->Aine.Although I will still be using the playing order that would allow me to unlock the 'harem' ending during my first playthrough.
Not much love for Shirayuki and Kirari I see (Aine is the sub character so I understand why she is on the bottom). Shirayuki route is the classic ‘corrupting the arrogant noble girl and make her fall into obedient lewd bitch’. Just a random prediction but she will probably get disowned by her family and make her money through creating “Spicy” streaming contents for the MC. As for Kirari, she is a bratty Loli with big mouth spouting big words, but despite all her big words she has nothing to back it up. She is the weakest to pleasure and easily defeated by sex, even become a crybaby when the MC become serious during sex, increasing the MC sadistic side to tame the conceited Loli to tell her who’s in charge. But Loli never get much love in 4chan BISHOP forum ,my observation is that girls with massive tits is much more popular among anons. Not sure about BISHOP Japanese audience though. But sometimes I wonder why BISHIOP don’t make more heroines with Big Boob recently. Considering the new nurse game from Atelier Kaguya (who specialized in Heroines with Big Boob – either onee-san or Mommy) is the best-selling for upcoming games right now, surely there’s a large market for it. I mean, just look how well Milk Factory games are selling.
ingk2 op movie: http://suezou.dyndns.org/bishop.html#ingk_houkago2-demo
>>8377637My favorite order is: Satori > Shirayuki > Kirari > Mihiro > Aine.Satori route have a lot of potential to be really good because she is going to change from misandrist who hate men and don't even want to touch the protagonist semen to a nymphomaniac girl who have a extreme sensitive body and love sex and protagonist semen more than anything from the bottom of her heart. Mizushima characters always have good designs and ahegao faces and the CV is good too.Shirayuki was my favorite but after CV was announced i was not that happy with the her CV, don't get me wrong Himuru Yuri is not a bad voice actress, i just don't think she is the best fit for Shirayuki, i always remember her as Taimanin Yukikaze and i think she is more fit for loli characters. The reason she still in second in my list is because i really like high pride ojou-sama characters and the streamer side of her may result in interesting scenes and developments. Tadashi Fukado designs got a lot better but i think the ahegao faces are not that good yet.Kirari route can be really interesting or boring, from what we know she will be a crybaby after the first scene but as the route progress she will be tamed by the protagonist and probably in the middle of the route she will already be a obedient girl. I really like Kurono Tomoaki designs and ahegao faces of the characters he is in charge, the CV is good and teaching a arrogant loli female bratty who is in charge is going to be fun.Mihiro definetly have the best body of all heroines, she is probably the heroines with most qualities. First i like how in some scenes you can clearly see her toned athlete body, her CV looks pretty good, the ahegao faces from Keiko Yoshino are different but in a good way. The reason she is not above in the list is because i like the background story and the route development of the others three better.Aine to be honest i'm not really looking forward much, i don't like rushed sub-heroines routes in BISHOP games.
>>8377668I think this is the 3rd time that I saw an anilingus scene in a BISHOP game recently.That being said, the OP song is pretty lackluster in my opinion, especially when Shinshoku and Kyousei Shihai's were really good.
>>8377810I just hope that it just means that Bishop focused more resources on the actual game events rather then the OP song.After all, we hadn't had a 'schoolgirl' game were the MC doesn't have any 'supernatural' aid to help him in corrupting the girls since Reijou Kanritou if I remember correctly.
>>8378552Not really since aphrodisiacs don't really work like advertised in real life as is, let alone one that makes women lactate out of nowhere. Which might not look like supernatural stuff, but on it's application in-game it's about on par with a hypno app.
>>8377692Speaking of Satori, being the main girl she is, I'm sure the game will reveal why she is a man-hater. I wonder what the reason is, perhaps her sensitive body is part of the reason? Making her overtly conscious to any male gaze? Whatever it is, it's going to be important in her route, her transformation and her final ending./ conclusion of her route.Btw, do you guys generally prefer for the MC to have a supernatural cheat power or the old-fashioned way? I think BISHOP adds MC power just to add variety for their games. But do you guys like it better if the MC have cheat powers?
>>8378890It depends on what kind of cheat power it is and how the MC uses it.Generally I would like Bishop to shift between the MC having cheat powers and the old-fashioned way, since imo that would provide the best 'variety'.
The Next BugBug issue will have 6 pages for the BISHOP game: Translated from toroana:■Reading special feature “After School in Hell 2” (BISHOP)・A thorough long interview with 6 color pages of the extreme highlights of the second popular brutal AVG released by the dark king BISHOP!!・Not only does it delve into a lewd drama set in a girls' dormitory and school, but it also deals directly with the latest developments in dark beautiful girl games.
>>8378939This is the only page i found from the next BugBug issue.
>>8378890>Speaking of Satori, being the main girl she is, I'm sure the game will reveal why she is a man-hater.From what we know, the sky could be the limit. From standard daddy issues, closet lesbian who we turn straight, just a sociopath like Mafuyu from the first InH, etc.>>8378914The problem with the old fashioned way is that it's literally the same scenario. Rape girl, take pictures, and blackmail.If it was something else, some way to mix it up or make it different, then that would be one thing, but if it's just gonna be a standard issue hentai cliche you can find anywhere else, them might as well get all cheat superpowers.Or not even a cheat superpower, just some weird quirk like the protag of Houkago 3 who just makes a ton of sperm.
>>8378986Oh wow, I like the idea of turning a closet lesbian straight, I mean there are games dedicated to that premise. Daddy issue is too cliched in the genre and for BISHOP. Heck, too many BISHOP MC themselves has daddy issues (revenge plot to the MC's father). Another cliche that I like is for the heroine to say "Men are Pigs" and then become Nymphomaniac herself
>>8378986>Rape girl, take pictures, and blackmail.That is the beauty and at the same time the biggest logic hole of this genre. Every raped girl is too proud/too scared of going to police claiming she was violated and demanding punishment for her assaulter (in case it's not some big-shot relative, OFC). Meanwhile IRL we literally got shit ton of attention seeking whores, claiming the were raped by this and that celebrity, all the way to the previous century. And they succeed in their claims. I wonder if IRL approach will ever make into rape-themed games.
>>8379584What you need to do is turn the blackmail in a different direction. Instead of blackmailing the girl, you blackmail the family.>Be BISHOP protag, son of giant corporate Zaibatsu.>Enroll in rich kid corporate school for elite rich families.>Get daddy to squeeze the CEOs of 5 small companies.>Demand their daughters in the name of survival, or they get crunched by the big business.>In paper, these girl are to be "engaged" to you. >All in secret of course, no on wants shady dealings to be public.>Plus, marriage to the son of a giant company CEO is a huge move up in the world for everyone.>In private, you're using all 5 girls as cumrags.>Have scenes where they go to daddy to try and stop their use as a sex toy>Daddy tells them that it's a good thing they're already being used as cumrags.>Daddy demands they get pregnant ahead of time to secure the engagement.>Nothing will be done to save them, if they go public they get disowned, lose everything.And there you have it, A scenario where at least we got creative with the blackmail.
>>8379584>>8379610Well, the focus of Bishop games is forcibly training a (usually) innocent virgin girl into a sex slave, so imo that's why the 'blackmail' aspect doesn't get much focus. Sure developing this aspect, might make the story get more interesting, but it would also make the mt h scenes part bigger, since the writer's would need to add scenes on how the protagonist intends to stop the girl from publicizing her 'rape' or blackmails the girl's families. Which could turn some buyer's off, since I think that, in most cases, the buyer wants to get to the 'rape' part as quickly as possible - and the prologue containing the "introduction" scenes is already quite long.
>>8379584Kyousei Shihai kinda mentions this issue, where the MC trying to be more careful making the move, otherwise his action will easily get viral-ed or something
Is anyone still keep that Kagami x Bishop book? I'm looking for some pages like in these urls http://bishop.jp/products/mk/pub.htmlhttp://bishop.jp/products/mk2/pub.htmlI waited for a while but no one scanned the missing pages and I can't afford to spend that much for a book. Tks if anyone can help.
Feature page got an update and we have the heroine's outfit's on display: https://www.bishop.gr.jp/products/ingk2/feature.html
>>8379890Poster preview's have also been updated (with Satori and Kirari taking the focus, so can I assume that they will have the primary role in the story?)
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>>8379890Seems like the haughty Ojou-sama Shirayuki become a lewd maid in the ending. Kirari (pink Loli) is also close enough with naked apron. Not sure what Mihiro (blonde Gal) is wearing in her pregnant ending costume. While Satori is wearing a slutty schoolgirl uniform, which makes sense since we have Adult MC in this game.I feel like Shirayuki has the sexiest costume overall
>>8379890Bruh, why Aine has a nice set of costumes despite being the sub heroine? It was the same thing about Rumi in Kyousei Shihai…>>8379979Mihiro is wearing a Chinese dress during her preggo sex scene, there is a CG about it in the feature page.
>>8380074My man, she's already the sub heroine, they have to give her something. She's already getting shafted on the number of scenes alone.
From this image i can already tell how the routes are going to progress:CG 1-2-3 = This is where the heroine is raped for the first time.CG 4-5 = First training scenes (these scenes are going to be the first Twin Splash Retraining).CG 6 = single scene just to progress the route.CG 7-8 = Second training scenes (these scenes are going to be the second Twin Splash Retraining).CG 9-10 = This is the only one i`m not 100% sure if we have one scene with 2 CGs or two different scenes with 1 CG each.CG 11-12 = Third training scenes (these scenes are going to be the third Twin Splash Retraining).CG 13-14-15 = This is where the heroine is almost falling but still resist.CG 16-17-18 = This is where the heroine completly fall and turn into a slave.CG 19 = First scene after the fall.CG 20-21-22 = Normal Ending.CG 23-24 = First Twin Splash Retraining.CG 25-26 = Second Twin Splash Retraining.CG 27-28 = Third Twin Splash Retraining.CG 29-30-31 = Pregnant Ending.
>>8380504Holy shit, CSI zoom scene look like amateurs compared to this magician - he managed to decypher entire development just from 3 pixels.
>>8380074A Chinese dress huh? Well, it is the modified version so I can't really tell. Still not sure what it was to represent though. I mean Shirayuki's lewd maid outfit and Kirari's naked apron is pretty clear (they become obedient servant for the MC). Satori's slutty school girl outfit is clear as well, it was supposed to represent her change from a man-hater female student to a slutty & submissive school girl who seduce older man (the MC is an adult protagonist so it works). It is a classic fetish in porn but honestly this is probably the core fetish for BISHOP's Japanese audience as well since they done this multiple times by now, even in recent games ( I mean they are so obsessed with school girls after all, which is the same reason why Kagami left). .
>>8380199That's why I'm worried about Oonari. I hope he is doing well as far as health goes, but I heard that his work on CnS2 might be the reason why he is in charge of the sub-heroines' scenes nowadays.>>8380821The sad fact is that school-themed games are BISHOP's bread and butter in the end. I personally liked Shinshoku a lot thanks to Mishio and Tsukasa who had great routes alongside a nice characterization, but it wasn't a school-themed game, so it went under the radar.
>>8380504Just to make my post more accurate i found the answer after checking another image about CG 9-10. We can see in this image that each main heroine route have 15 scenes. For this reason CG 9 and 10 are two separete scenes with only one CG each.
>>8358192Just curious, where you found or purchased the last article of BugBug. I`m trying to find the new one that released yesterday but no success. The article have 6 pages about the game and a interview that i`m curious about.
More cg preview's have been released https://www.bishop.gr.jp/products/ingk2/cg.html
>>8380834Err, what's this? I've never heard such rumors regarding Oonari. Could you elaborate please? Btw, Oonaris also designed Satori, so still get both the main heroine and the sub-heroine as usual.
>>8380834For all Akagi Rio lovers, she is currently working on the new Milk Factory Games, this time about Bunny Girs, and already starting to top the charts despite being released in April. Interestingly, she's not listed as an "Artist" but rather as "Staff/Production Support" (whatever that means anyway)
>>8381163After reading the texts from the CG, here are the new things I found :1. Satori (Blue Hair - Main Girl): Not only is her body very sensitive, she is also a masochist who gets off being bullied. This combination made her cum messily from being anally raped the first time. Her route most likely be awakening her masochistic side (Once again the main heroine is the masochis of the game).2. Kirari (Loli): A crybaby. Rather than being rebellious, she is actually scared of the MC and begging not to be so harsh on her during the sex scenes. And such, she is actually quite obedient as she beg for mercy. 3. Shirayuki (Purple Hair - Streamer Ojou same). The MC is quite harsh on her and treat her like a toy. Probably try to destroy her Ojou-sama pride by making her realize that her body react positively and gains pleasure from being treated like a lowly plaything despite her noble birth. 4. Mihiro (Blonde Gal). Surprisingly quite obedient and easily gains pleasure. Quite an emphasis on her tits (and most probably ass later) since her route is about the MC thoroughly using all her beautiful assets with her having the best body of all the casts.
>>8381992Oh, and I forgot to ask. With the new previews and character description, has your ranking for the heroines also changed?
>>8381950I just heard that Yuno's CGs in Chijoku no Seifuku 2 suffered from some hiccups near the end of her route as far art goes, so I thought he might need to take a break since he has always drawn more heroines than any BISHOP artists aside of Kagami and Kanami in the past.>>8381957I will keep an eye on that title even if Rio has a limited role among the artists.>>8382015Nope. Mihiro is the one who has potentially the best route among the main targets, but my only wish is her pregnant scene doesn't end in her saying that she wants MC to train her daughter if she has one.That weird incest kink always nope'd me.
>>8381992Well it wouldn't be interesting, if the girls didn't put any resistance (even if they fail to do anything to the protagonist) so maybe the parts of Kirari being a crybaby and Mihiro being obedient or either just in the H scenes and they are still trying to do something to 'stop' the MC from using their bodies or it's a from the latter stages of their routes, after their counterattacks plans failed..
>>8383610Well, the problem is that we can’t really tell at what stages of their “training” in those CGs. But my guess for Mihiro is that it’s already in the “later” stages of her training since she already feeling powerful pleasure even though she is still badmouthing the MC (With her saying things like : “Why do I feel good from being raped by human scum?”). And when the MC said that he would let her off for the day if she successfully make him cum, she is quite obedient and do exactly what he said and saying: “I’ve done everything you asked so hurry up and cum already you coward!”. So she’s still badmouthing the MC even though she felt intense pleasure and almost cumming herself the whole time. As for Kirari, she is a crybaby from the very first scene, crying and begging and almost fall unconscious from the very first sex scene, even the MC saying things like: “What a sloppy and immature girl you are, passing out from your very first creampie, we are just getting started you know !”. In the BDSM scene, she desperately says: “ I will do everything you ask, so please show some mercy!”(Not that the MC will listen to her). The whole point of her character is that she is a highly conceited and bratty Loli, hurling insulting words but having nothing to back it up when the MC finally retaliates. Even the BISHOP team said that the gap between her conceited side and her crybaby attitude is supposed to increase your sadistic side and make you want to punish her more. She is also naïve when it comes to sex, so her overall character is actually well suited as the Loli of the game.
A weird trend that I noticed between BISHOP games, often they like to put internal pissing fetish on one of the heroines. So between 5 new heroines here, who do you think will become MC's toilet?
>>8384073Satori fits imo, she kind of reminds me of Ayana from KTJK1 - being the "trigger" of the MC 'revenge'
>>8384145I don`t know if you knew that when you posted this message but Satori and Ayana have the same CV Sakura Momoka.
Its 2025, i hope everyone have a good year. We are finally in the release month of the game and even through the official website is almost complete we still have some updates left before the release date.1-BugBug 2025年02月号 06 pages with interview to check.2-BugBug News website will probably make one or two articles about the game.3-Demo Trial release.4-Manual page with more detailed description about the game.5-Countdown movies starting 10 days before the release date.
>>8387275>Demo TrialIf we take the 2023 year into consideration (which has a similar release window as in the current new year) the demo version should be release around 13.01.2025.Basically about 2 weeks, before the game release date.
>>8387275In the website, BISHOP team are having new year vacation till 5th January, so expect no update till then.
I just thought about a theory about INGK2 'training room' - what if the dormitory that the INGK2 MC manages was previously the warehouse that the INGK1 MC lived in, which was expanded due to the INGK1 MC needing more 'living space' after he 'acquired' his 5 female slaves.Later on the 'expanded warehouse' was converted into a dormitory with the 'training room' being not found or ignored and as result it became the stage of another 'hunt'.Of course that is purely my speculation..
Anyone knows what is the japanese opinion on some mother - daughter action, or at least blood related sister - sister action - meaning that a mother - daughter, sister - sister pair is raped at the same time by the protagonist or that they have some yuri scene with the protagonist watching it. Last time, it was present in Kazoku, but it definitely could be used in a school setting like in Sansha Mendan or Mesu Kyoushi 2.
>>8391917Incest and Oyakodon are niche fetishes, even in Japan.
Well random dumb experiment, you can drag Bishop games in winlator if you want to play it on Android devices, though I would say getting the Japanese font working takes a whole different step here.
Ok got the font working as well, you need to download the windows font pack and pasting it into the fonts folder.
BugBug article about INGK2 girls loss of virginity scene's https://www.bugbug.news/b_game/190058/
>>8388660Pretty sure the dormitory should be part of the school building complex (at least near the school) while the MC in Ingoku 1 lives in a private residence and not near the school at all. If anything , the dormitory from Reijou Kanritou is more likely, especially since the MC found the aphrodisiac recipe that also makes the girls lactate. Of course, BISHOP's games usually are not connected to the previous titles but can be cool if they are.
>>8393398Unfortunately, it does not reveal many new things. I think BISHOP has been continuing the trend of reducing the number of scenes it reveals, including from the OP movie, in the last three games or so.
>>8393501If BISHOP is smart they're gonna just hint and never give you an answer. God knows there's already enough lore schizos out there in the gaming world that they could probably get a good following from those kinds of people by just hinting at stuff and letting them go wild with their predictions and crazy theories.Which for a game studio that specializes on rape games would be fucking hilarious.>You see the classroom where the main school girl of Y came got her second rape scene?>It looks eeriely similar to the classroom where this teacher gets raped in X game.>The times of the day differ, but you can see in this screenshot where main girl is being forced to give a blowjob, the broom closet>LOOK AT IT! It's the same broom closet, in the same position! we can confirm this on the end of the teacher scene, where she cries at being raped>Conincidence?!?!? I THINK NOT!!!!!
>>8393755>>You see the classroom where the main school girl of Y came got her second rape scene?>>It looks eeriely similar to the classroom where this teacher gets raped in X game.>>The times of the day differ, but you can see in this screenshot where main girl is being forced to give a blowjob, the broom closet>>LOOK AT IT! It's the same broom closet, in the same position! we can confirm this on the end of the teacher scene, where she cries at being raped>>Conincidence?!?!? I THINK NOT!!!!!Also*Psst. I't s a big inside scoop, so avoid leaking it, but products of the same studio tend to share background and effects sprites*I'm surprised those lore r-tards held off from tying SnK and Kazoku skyboxes to inbound game, claiming OP being bastard son of Otoha xMahoxItsuki triple sex.
What do you think is going to be released after INGK2?Personally I hope that it's going to contain young adult female's, although Bishop will most likely include a schoolgirl as tax.Judging from the previous release dates the next game should be released around the end of September.
>>8397420SNK3, I hope. With Rio's return as she isn't working on the new Milk Factory.
>>8397909Technically, Rio does not have to be included in a teacher game. Tsumugi is a good example from KTJK3. Just a student will really big tits is needed.
>>8398852Oops, forgot to include her picture.
>>8397909Nope Rio is working on the Milk Factory game releasing in 2025, but not as an artist but as a member of the staff, being the "production supporter".So, I don't know if ... with a role change like that, Rio can still work for other studio's...
ingk2 master up image.Meaning - no delays.
>>8399090Let's say for example, you used to work at Walmart, or Mcdonnalds, or anywhere else where they paid minimum wage, and then you manage to land yourself a job where you get 100K a year. And then your old boss at Walmart/Mcdonnalds calls you to see if you're available for the holiday rush. They could really use the extra help and you were such a good worker. Would you go back? The answer is no. No you wouldn't. Not unless you're filthy rich, then you do your Forest Gump thing where you just go back to mowing the grass at the football field for funsies. Just because you really don't have to work and you have nothing to do.And while I'm sure she was getting top dollar as an artist, I heavily doubt it's production work money. Hell, for all we know, her "production support" is just giving steady blowjobs under the table for the owner of the company, and he's given her a meaningless role and a paycheck just so he can have her around for a "strategy meeting" whenever he wants to.
I'm not really sure that I get this discussion about Akagi Rio. I might be wrong, but the title of "Production Support" does not mean it's a permanent full time job for Milk Factory. I believe it's for this game only. as Milk Factory only create new game every 3 years or so. So Akagi Rio should be free to work for anyone else after they finished this game.
BugBug will probably release this week the last Ingoku no Houkago 2 article before the release date and BISHOP said they will release the trial version this week too.
You know, I just realized something: In the last three games in a row (Ingoku 1, Shinshoku, KS), the MC always marries the main girl in the ending. I wonder if this trend will continue because it usually doesn't happen before. Then again, marrying the MC is probably the "proper" ending for the misandrist heroine for this game, from a misandrist to an obedient slutty wife.
>>8407607BugBug article: https://www.bugbug.news/b_game/191472/
>>8408242I only care about weddings if we get wedding lingerie, Otoha from Kazoku style.
>>8409960Mafuyu's pregnant outfit was peak tho
demo download link suezou.dyndns.org/bishop.html#ingk_houkago2-trial
I wonder if Satori is going to attempt to kill the protagonist during her route events.After all she is a misandrist and the MC actions might make her go to that 'extreme' option to try and get rid of him...It would be a nice callback to some earlier Bishop titles....
>>8410701Mafuyu from InH is the closest we've gotten, since she confesses that had you not made her submit to you cock on her breaking scene, she already had a plan to get rid of you, even admitting that she more than likely would've gotten caught by it. She just wanted to murder the protag. Good thing for the power of chimpo.
>>8410701Just like the Anon above me said, Mafuyu in the first ingoku attempted to kill the MC. She admitted that chose the sex position where she was on top so she can launch a surprise attack and choke the MC to death, but she hesitated in the final moment realizing that she can't live without the MC cock anymore and will be much happier as his slave. She even apologized for it with her naked dogeza scenes, this is also when they both realize Mafuyu is highly masochistic who gets off being humiliated like this.Interestingly, the preview also reveal that Satori is the masochist heroine of the game , so just like the first Ingoku and KS, the main heroine is the masochist heroine once again, the only thing that would complete the past pattern is for Satori to marry the MC.Interestingly, while not necessarily a misandrist, Mafuyu storyline actually has a misandrist element as well. She hated her controlling father , proclaiming that she won't be controlled by any man. Her dream was to be a flight attendant, apparently because they represent freedom (according to her anyway). In her ending, she then says that she has a wonderful master so being controlled by a man (the MC) actually feel very good and she even feel grateful for it.
So I finished the trial. Only Satori's rape scene is available so it does not reveal much.Now, please take what I am about to say with a grain of salt. With only Satori's rape scene and some small sneak peek at the end of the trial, I don't have enough samples to say this for sure. But I think BISHOP may change their formula on how the heroine reacts for this game. The game style itself as an adult protagonist punishing cheeky brats. And I feel the heroines is less 'hostile' and more' miserable' and 'regretful ' for being raped. Satory literally beg for forgiveness and beg the MC to not cum inside her, only for the MC to cum inside her anyway despite her apology just to let her know how the feeling of being betrayed felt like. Mihiro seems shocked and regretful of her early overconfidence from being a gym girl just to be effortlessly overpowered by the adult MC. She laments of her body being 'broken' after being raped by the MC. Kirari is crybaby from the start. So the game is about revenge and punishing cheeky brats, and the heroines felt more miserable than the 'usual hostile ' in their sex scenes to emphasize the satisfaction of the MC to finally put the heroines in such a miserable state through his punishment since the heroines are hostiles to the MC first. Don't get me wrong, the heroines are still hostile, and the game should have the same number of scenes so they should break at the same rate as past games, but I feel the focus is more tilted toward the heroines feeling miserable from the MC punishment to get their 'just desserts' than the usual denial and hostility from them (this component still exist though, remember that hostile heroines are rare for BISHOP in the first place). Overall, I think Shirayuki is the 'strongest' heroine when it comes to 'mental strength' when taking the punishment from the MC.
It makes you wonder when Bishop (if) is going to create a women that is capable of being a more or less an even match with the MC.So far, the females are disadvantaged due to the MC finding effective blackmail, before their 'rape' or due to the MC supernatural assistance or simply due to their age difference.
