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We Got Nuked Edition

Previous Thread: >>8270060

>LOCAL UI
A1111: https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui
Forge: https://github.com/lllyasviel/stable-diffusion-webui-forge | Alternative version (reForge): https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-reForge
Comfy: https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUI

>LOCAL MODELS
Pony: https://civitai.com/models/404802 | https://civitai.com/models/288584 | https://civitai.com/models/257749
Illustrious: https://civitai.com/models/795765
Noob: https://civitai.com/models/833294

>PAID
NovelAI: https://rentry.org/hdg-nai-v3
NAI API/prompting in A1111: https://github.com/Metachs/sdwebui-nai-api

>RESOURCES
Wiki: https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/wiki | https://comfyanonymous.github.io/ComfyUI_examples | https://openart.ai/workflows/templates
Training: https://rentry.org/59xed3 | https://github.com/derrian-distro/LoRA_Easy_Training_Scripts | https://github.com/bmaltais/kohya_ss | https://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainer
Tags: https://danbooru.donmai.us/wiki_pages/tag_groups | https://danbooru.donmai.us/related_tag
ControlNet: https://rentry.org/dummycontrolnet | https://civitai.com/models/136070 | https://huggingface.co/2vXpSwA7/iroiro-lora
IOPaint (LamaCleaner): https://www.iopaint.com/install
Upscalers: https://openmodeldb.info
Booru: https://aibooru.online
4chanX Catbox/NAI prompt userscript: https://rentry.org/hdgcb
Pony-related: https://rentry.org/ponyxl_loras_n_stuff | https://rentry.org/ponyxl_lora_previews | https://lite.framacalc.org/4ttgzvd0rx-a6jf
Illustrious-related: https://rentry.org/illustrious_loras_n_stuff
Useful Nodes/Extensions: https://rentry.org/8csaevw5

OP Template/Logo: https://rentry.org/hdgnew/raw | https://files.catbox.moe/xk99gy.png | https://files.catbox.moe/35bdt5.gif

>Related
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Janny nuked the thread so highlight anon couldn't be prepared. Based.
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>>8271268
Not really, the thread wasn't at 300 images yet. If this was an act of the mod to sink the thread prematurely for no reason the dude oughta step down.
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>>8271254
linking post about controlnet and kohya deep shrink before old thread got nuked

tl;dr probably works in forge, if it doesn't already work in comfy then installing jankhidiffusion custom node seems to fix it for kohya as a bonus
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>>8271277
>>8271279
Do you ever sleep or are you genuinely watching this thread 24/7 and thinking of how to make it worse? How much does Kurumuz pay you?
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>>8271277
>05/10
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>>8271277
>>8271279
I swear I've seen these a week ago...
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>>8271277
>>8271279
kill yourself falseflagger
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Thread getting nuked was pretty unexpected
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>he only picks the sloppiest of sloppa
acquire taste if you're going to "highlight" """good""" posts
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what are those retarded jannys on about now?
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>>8271290
Those are old highlights, I know because that Nadeko one was posted a few threads back
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So why do jannies want to hide the truth about vpred training? That's the only thing I can think of as it was being actively discussed and then immediately swept under the rug once evidence was starting to pile up.
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Request Anchor
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How can we rid the world from the kind of people who use discord communities unironically? I use them too but after reading Eugecoord and noobxl chat I'd prefer death.
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>>8271295
Mist from Rune Factory piledriver
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>>8271294
Tranny janny didn't like that the proof of how ugly the fix was had been posted
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>05/10/2024
Ahhh, those were so much better times. Nostalgic. Can't believe it's been more than 2 weeks. Time flies...
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>>8271294
I seriously don't understand how people are overlooking how bad Drhead fix looks, are we sure it wasn't implemented wrong a second time? If it's actually a better fix, why hasn't kohya included it?
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janny maltie...
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>>8271301
this but unironically
felt like hdg could stop being a schizo shithole
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>>8271295
Light green hair, light green eyes, light green lingerie, sex
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>>8271302
it's because it's not. they're just sperging hard that it must be better because muh paper hurrdurr, if you actually try training with both it's no improvement
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>>8271295
request: kill yourself
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>>8271305
>Green hands not gloves
Triggered
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>>8271295
requesting help, how do i add suggested prompts into my lora's metadata? im using the easy training gui

Negative prompts: (bad help, bad advice, trolls, schizos, chatgpt, white boys:1.3)
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>>8271302
>If it's actually a better fix, why hasn't kohya included it?
because no one bothered retard
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>>8271311
>because no one bothered retard
There's literally a GitHub where it's brought up and he acknowledges it then continues to ignore it, what more is there to this in your delusional tranny brain?
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>>8271306
post comparisons
>>8271313
post link
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bluvoll uses dr head code
bluvolls loras look like shit
ergo, I won't use dr head code
simple as!
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>>8271279
>I didn't make it
Guess I'll never post my gens again. Also, kys(keep yourself safe)
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Training a LoRA on pics of myself~ uwu
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>>8271315
Both are at the end of the archived thread, go read it you lazy jeet
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>>8271318
Here's first checkpoint
https://civitai.com/models/871405/
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isn't Drhead that furry retard who can't code xirself out of a paper bag? why would I trust that shit again?
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>>8271277
>>8271279
Not a single image from the previous thread, hilarious
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>>8271319
>no link
as expected, lmao
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>>8271321
this is now canonically the annoying shitposter in this thread
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>>8271322
Now you're starting to understand more and more why Kohya did not implement it. Loud minority of discord troons vouching for it because they saw the word paper without ever properly testing it and seeing it visually sucks ass. Or in bluvalls case, seeing it and still not realizing it sucks ass because you're stylistically blind. Never trust a discord troon, always try things yourself and see the truth with your own eyes.
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>>8271326
Okay, bluvoll being blind is MY line, and I forbid you from using it for the sake of shitposting, understood? I'm very serious.
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>>8271326
one thing you'll notice is if you were to ask any of these kinds of people to show their gens, it'd be ACOslop and furshit. those are the kinds of troons that try to dictate snakeoil as a sure thing in these threads. you lurk for long enough, you can't help but notice the pattern
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>>8271326
But you are a discord troon yourself.
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>>8271329
I'm not shitposting, it looks like crap.
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>>8271332
I deleted my account after seeing the depths of their cess. I was naive, but no longer
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Do pony Loras still work with illu?
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>>8271331
you bloody bitch bastard . you delete this now fuck you gu y !
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>>8271337
>still
They never worked
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>always try things yourself
current version of noob-vpred was trained with fixed debiased estimation, mind you
and you still didn't post any proofs whatsoever

what's with this flock of shitposters today anyway?
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https://github.com/kohya-ss/sd-scripts/pull/1715
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>>8271341
>today
Check what time it is in GMT +5
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i only saw one xy last thread actually comparing the drhead schizo result against the regular resultl and i thought the schizo result was better but it was clearly too underbaked to even think about extrapolating from sample size 1
im not on whatever discord the shitflinging is taking place
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>>8271341
its monday so they are rushing to get their weekly quota out
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>>8271341
Nigger it's literally a continuation of the previous thread just go fucking read it if you want to insert yourself into the conversation so badly
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>>8271341
it's just one guy
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>>8271341
>flock of shitposters
It's what it looks like when one guy devotes his entire day to samefagging.
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>>8271350
Too bad floral pattern looks like shit, but if you don't zoom in it's a cute image.
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>>8271342
holy based
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>>8271350
impressive. very nice. box?
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Kek
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>>8271342
I can't wait for the retards to wonder why their vpred Loras look so bad. Euge did not use the dr head code in his vpred bake fyi, he ignored the tranny discord screeches like usual (thank god).
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>>8271354
It's nai
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>>8271357
gook?
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>>8271347
>>8271348
I don't see why you false flag like this, it's pretty obvious from the pictures dr heads version looks like poop
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>>8271357
let's see paul allen's metadata
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>>8271356
>Euge did not
what the fuck are you on about
https://discord.com/channels/1283106878590554194/1290189677411831808/1294553767773081650
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>>8271359
Understood. As you can see from the catboxanon's pull request, we're proceeding with it anyway. Have a nice shitposting day.
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>>8271342
>>8271361
kek receipts have been pulled
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>>8271359
It honestly does, but it doesn't change that it's been implemented in kohya wrong. I wonder if something else is still wrong. People keep saying it'll sort itself out with more training but I think there's another underlying issue, I bet they've experienced it in their test runs and that's why lax was hesitant to switch to vpred + they haven't released the vpred partial bake.
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>>8271361
Nice out of context post, hes not talking about the settings he actually used there. It's not hard at all to look at the metadata
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>>8271330
there's a certain sort of effect where the deeper you're in on the coding side of things the further away you are from the 'artistic'/expressive side of image gen. You stop being able to see things subjectively and the rules that guide your objective response are no longer guided by visuals/aesthetic and become ruled by some dumbass formula(though in most cases they didn't have much of an aesthetic sentiment to begin with). And their sycophants are blind and don't particularly care either way.
Also probably doesn't help that the 'arts' don't often appeal much to codemonkeys.
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>>8271342
great, discordtroons are going to ruin vpred now. sigh, guess it's washed out eps pred for me
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>>8271352
Yeah, high frequency pattern is always funny for diffusion models. Maybe I can wrangle it with some specific flower tags though.
>>8271354
https://files.catbox.moe/xrwvgv.png
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>>8271369
I've noticed this and it's extremely unfortunate. They're equivalent to how Jordach keeps posting the same ugly, piss colored furry and thinking it's prime NAI beating anime. But here we stand, at their whim as they troon rage over a code "fix" that makes everything look worse because they can't see outside of the technical rigid black and white perspectives they're locked into
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the cutest dyke.
more innocent bloomers version: https://files.catbox.moe/h9meub.png
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>>8271370
QRD? Who's the discord troon? What's wrong?
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>>8271369
>>8271376
so much sissies, let's reject computers and start drawing anime girls in caves
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>>8271377
based ass size
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does the size difference tag lean one way depending on where you place it in the prompt? it's pretty gender neutral but i'm wondering if it's more likely to make the male bigger if placed with the 1boy, etc tags with a BREAK from the 1girl tags
i'm trying to fuck yordles you see and illu will not make them small enough
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>>8271379
kek codesissy meltie
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>>8271379
A kicked dog hollars
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What model are you guys talking about? The only vpred model i've used was the old furry 1.5 one, i.e the first actually good model.
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>>8271326
>Now you're starting to understand more and more why Kohya did not implement it
https://github.com/kohya-ss/sd-scripts/pull/1715#issuecomment-2426563850
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>We used MinSNR loss-weighting to treat diffusion as a multi-task learning problem, balancing the learning of each timestep according to difficulty, and avoiding focusing too much training on low-noise timesteps
But why are anons arguing about one debiased estimation vs another? Aren't we just blindly following the nai paper? Do we dare straying from the path of light??
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Need more pointy ear
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perhaps the original v-pred paper that nai copied could shed some light
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>>8271389
spam from some discord over a test model
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>>8271393
Based Kohya proving the rigid minded, aesthetically blind autists wrong. Feels good
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>>8271386
Just use Noob, it should know larger_male and smaller_female
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>>8271393
drheadtards BTFO by Kohya
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>>8271389
noobxl has a vpred proof of concept version (incomplete training, limited dataset)
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>>8271391
she looks like she is about to stab me
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>>8271413
If your anus was this oversaturated, you'd want to stab somebody too...
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>>8271393
LMAO the people claiming we're samefagging retards are sure quiet now.
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>>8271414
don't worry it's just paint
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>>8271393
he's not discrediting either, probably the best stance to take
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Even while doing literally nothing kurumuz just keeps winning huh
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>addresses himself as we
WTF is wrong with this generation?
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>>8271393
So catbox anon really just blindly believed the discordtroons and tried to call us all retards for not agreeing, huh?
>Difficult for me to say affirmatively. I'd prefer waiting for a second or third opinion on it.
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>>8271422
holy sexo.
>sheep ears in negs
what's the story on that, bleed from obj shep?
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>>8271428
That's why I made a PR. I'm not calling anybody right or wrong. Please by all means post something on GitHub and not Discord if you believe it's really fucking over the model, because I don't want that to happen either.
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>>8271428
you are all retards
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>us
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Here ya go bwos
>>>8269600
https://files.catbox.moe/th8crt.png
>>>8271225
https://files.catbox.moe/ng6ioz.png
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let's get a real coder like jordach to look at it
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>>8271436
>shitposters try not to drive a funny joke into the ground challenge impossible
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>>8271431
it's fine man even if it's broken and fucks up training that just means you're at a net neutral for 99% of people since debiased estimation loss is already broken and fucks up training
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real highlights doko
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>>8271440
Wait for it to wake up, it's sleeping right now.
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How is this extension called on GitHub?
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>>8271411
Thanks, if it is as big of a leap as that 1.5 model was it should be interesting.
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I fucking love classic JRPGs and their gameplay loops

https://files.catbox.moe/yuqxo4.png
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does illustrious suck ass at newer characters like zenless? trying to do zhu yuan with smoothillustrious but the loras are not working that well vs pony....
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>>8271448
reminds me of a scene from the story of little monica
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>>8271450
dont expect good loras until we stop getting new model every 3 days
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>>8271449
toot lmao
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>>8271450
Nigga the model was trained before your gacha slop was even released
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>>8271450
zzz is too new for its dataset. noob can do them though i think
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>>8271407
am using noob, never knew about those tags though, thank you
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>>8271454
Speaking of, how long til the next?
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>>8271430
>bleed from obj shep?
Nah, it's just me being lazy as I use the same negatives and that's in there for when I gen my OC. Same with neck bell as it likes to put them on chokers when you have sheep horns.
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>>8271459
roughly 3 days from now
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>>8271440
>>8271443
>wake up
Here. And the worst part is that I hit the update button and was so sure the thread had at least half a day to go yet that did NOT notice the thread was archived until now. What happened?
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>>8271464
>What happened?
Jannie meltie
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been training illus loras on base illus. what changes need to be made to our training scripts for vpred, if any?
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>>8271458
Yeah, they are e621 tags. Those have worked in my experience, but haven't tested those yet, and can't cause currently baking
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need more fayes
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when the next vpred checkpoint?
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>>8271471
Sent ;)
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>>8271448
>turn based gameplay isn't dead
>noo i don't wanna change my ways and implement fun combat
>wdym you want auto battle for endless fights against the same mob compositions?
>Persona 5 is fun
>PERSONA 5 IS FUN
>brb have to get my blood pressure meds
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>>8271467
Vpred enabled, zSNR noise, disable all other kinds of noise
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>>8271464
jannie was reaching for his burger but the fat roll of his arm made his 1L diet coke fall unto the delete thread button
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>>8271475
Shouldn't multiples still be beneficial?
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>>8271479
Any kind of noise offset breaks the intended noise schedule.
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ok i want to try lora baking again, a character with low booru post count and a complex costume

what's your workflows here? i have grabber, booru data tagset manager, and kohya that all need updating. i think ill try that schizo's lycon extract method too.
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>local sabotage
Please just let it fucking end
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>>8271475
is that actually it?
so just disable all other args for noise offset
and use
--v_pred_like_loss and --zero_terminal_snr?
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>>8271483
>complex costume
Hi Tony!
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>>8271487
do not use v_pred_like_loss stupid
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>>8271461
oh, yeah that makes sense
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>>8271490
this is patrick
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>>8271474
slopsona was the worst thing that ever happened to jrpgs and i'm not even talking about the whole queerification-trojan-horse-for-superficial/ironic-weebs thing

imagine a world where persona doesn't exist and we still have breath of fire 2/3/4-caliber games or even just a world where instead of dq11 we got dq8-2
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>>8271486
there is no sabotage, it's one techlet retard screaming and shitting himself with no A/Bs (as usual) to prove his schizo headcanon over a config option which is, at worst, snakeoil
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>>8271498
I dropped it halfway through so i can't say much about the story, but the combat was atrocious.
EIther give me a functional fast-forward button for your turd-based combat or try to make it engaging like the ff remake did.
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>>8271475
what about min_sngr_gamma?
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>>8271512
min_snr_gamma
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>>8271512
You don't need that for ztsnr
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>>8271512
Use fixed debiased estimation loss instead
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>>8271506
ngl it's your fault for not bailing immediately the moment you noticed that every action has its own over the top cutscene and the entire game is 100 parts "style" and 1 part substance
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>>8271516
nice, cheers anon. one of the nice things about chatgpt is being able to feed it stuff from the kohya repo instead of trying to read what the fuck the args for certain stuff is
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just train an ia3 bro its better than lora
just train a finetune extract instead of a lora bro its better
don't use fixed debiased estimation bro it fucks up the results
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>>8271530
finetune extracts are better than loras though
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>>8271264
Haman....
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>>8271464
Interesting image.
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Do we have to retrain all the LORAs, to make it work with Illusion? Or can the Pony LORAs work as well?
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>>8271535
retrain
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>>8271535
>Illusion
Illustrious
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>>8271532
better quality? maybe. but it defeats the purpose of LoRA which is to be small and portable. and I've still yet to see comparisons between resized finetune extracts and DoRA with norm layers, which should be a very close competition.
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Is Illu usable in a consistent way, or should I wait at least to the beta?
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>>8271542
Use noob
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>>8271542
I would say Noob is more stable than Illu and is worth switching to.
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>>8271542
what does this mean nigger, are you trolling? retarded? what we have right now is basically a beta, it's very usable on its own and the recent noob epoch is extremely usable
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>>8271342
what does it mean for average anon in this thread ?
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text general
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>>8271487
yeah
feel like there's one other vpred arg but I'm so tired I can't think of what its called
if you search pred in the last thread (archived one) it should pop up
and ignore this faggot he's trolling >8271491
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>>8271548
nothing, because you shouldn't be training using debiased estimation loss.
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>>8271264
Previous Thread Highlights

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>>8271544
>>8271545
What is noob based on? Illu or Pony?
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>>8271564
Illu
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>>8271541
file sizes below 1GB are utterly irrelevant in the post-dialup age
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hahahahaha it gets funnier kohya just keeps calling the drhead code shills out
bless that Jap I love him
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>>8271563
kill yourself retard
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>>8271563
>didnt make it in
aaaaaand you're brown
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>>8271563
>didn't make it
Rope yourself familia
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>>8271555
one other vpred arg. i'd assume "--v_parameterization" to actually enable it. and yeah i figured faggot saying that was shitposting
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>>8271563
The butt shuten ghost >>8270821 was better than the tits >>8270793 shuten ghost. Prove me wrong.
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>>8271563
kill yourself
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i have a folder with the danbooru ids of each picture. is there a script somewhere to query danbooru for a caption list?
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>>8271577
The fully covered ghost is more lol-worthy.
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>train vpred lora overnight
>all black results when used
It's over.
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>>8271579
danbooru.donmai.us/posts/{id}.json
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>>8271580
That's... also true.
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newfag of illustrious here. Is it usable in forge? Do I just drop the models in the checkpoints folder like pony and i'll be able to gen using forge?
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>>8271581
can you gen with the vpred model without the lora to make sure it's not a settings issue?
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>>8271584
yes, but try noobxl instead
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>>8271583
But then this is the best >>8270770
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>>8271582
man it's been too long since ive used bash, brb for a few hours
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Impressed with Illustrious' ability to separate eyeshadow and eyelashes colors. Pony was always a coin flip of mixing the colors.
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TEXT GENERAL
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>>8271589
just ask claude for a python script. it's surprisingly good for the danbooru api
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>>8271585
Yeah, it's the standard noobaiXLNAIXL_epsilonPred05Version, so it works. I must've fucked up SOMETHING with Kohya_ss.
I keep seeing people mention zsnr, but I can't actually find the option, so that was probably it?
I got v_param on, scale v prediction loss on and v pred like loss to 0, since you can't have it and scale vpred on, but I can't find what zsnr is. I do also have Min SNR gamma to 0, and everything else Noise to disabled/0, hopefully?
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>>8271592
oh yeah i keep forgetting these things are actually good at doing boilerplate
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>>8271593
>epsilonPred
anon...
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>>8271593
>epsilonpred
hermano....
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>>8271598
Is it over for me?
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>>8271588
It's a compromise between lolness and sexyness.
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>>8271342
Why does debiased has reversed weighting scheduler at the first place? Examples doesn't look good either
Some anon from previous thread explained pretty clearly how it got weighted with v >>8261376
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>>8271600
you train vpred loras on the vpred model, "standard" loras on the eps model. I'm afraid to say but you may suffer from mild retardation.
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>>8271590
me in the condom
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>>8271604
I thought the epsilon one was the vpred one. My double digit IQ kicked in hard last night I guess.
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>>8271591
i felt bad that nobody responded to your bait. here's a (you)
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coomer \(meme\) produces some transcendent ugly bastards
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>>8271610
I look like this
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>>8271563
Finally the real highlights, keep it up.
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if i think the booru tags are already competent, is there any reason to try and append more with an autotagger?
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>all the other /hdg/ threads got archived as well
I know that's what happens eventually but still feels weird. Or maybe, just maybe, the nuked thread got archived by accident.
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>>8271613
Yes, because danbooru tagging can be really poor. Especially for older posts.
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>>8271613
No, but you want to clean them
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>lax wants noobxl to be noob-friendly
>calls normal model "eps pred" model
>eternally confuses 99.9% of his userbase
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>>8271613
You should always run the autotagger at a high confidence like 0.25-0.3, I guarantee it will catch shit the human taggers missed.
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>>8271610
Thanks for the inspiration
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>>8271617
automatically or manually by eyeball? ain't doing the latter.
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>>8271516
>>8271475
We're never gonna make it ez scripts bwos
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What options do I need to enable in reforge to make vpred gens not look like bowls of skittles?
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>>8271625
My piglet...
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>>8271626
Automatically. Just have a script remove shit like "commentary request" or "original" or "non-web source" and whatever other non-descriptive shit might be in the dataset.
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>>8271637
there's something weirdly adorable about uncanny coomer cuddling his little wife like that. box?
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>>8271587
which one
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>>8271642
https://files.catbox.moe/971an9.png
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>>8271590
if by coin flip you mean never working 90% of the time then yes
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>>8271648
Yeah it was a really shitty and fucked up coin
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How do I even use vpred on forge?
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>>8271608
NTA but it's okay anon, happens to everyone eventually when they start training right before bed. wasted nights of training thanks to dumb little mistakes myself
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How do you fix premature ejaculation?
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?
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>>8271655
edge
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oh, and what's the best autotagger right now
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>>8271658
Vit v3. I don't even edit them anymore if it's a style lora
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>>8271658
Update your shit and use -large -v3 ones
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>>8271563
>>8271317
>Did make it into the actual highlights
Guess I can keep genning then
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>>8271661
the large and eva02 are down the scroll
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>>8271658
Eva V3 large has generally been good to me.
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>>8271655
You cum later.
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>>8271660
I meant Eva I'm tired
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>>8271613
It can't hurt to add more with over 0.7 threshold, especially when the tags are just
><character>, <series>, <artist>, 1girl, tagme
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>>8271672
backstory?
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>>8271658
mPlug
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>>8271676
It's halloween, she thought it would be funny to go to a party wearing only bandages (she's a whore). Fat guy was rich and bought her a drink. It's like life.
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>forge git says they fixed vpred only making heatmaps
>try it
>only makes heatmaps
:/
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>>8271637
>>8271645
why are you using soulless noob?
base Illu is better
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>>8271685
I don't want my hugs to include dislocated joints
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>>8271685
explain why without sounding mad
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How do you even use an auto tagger?
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>>8271603
Because it's literally the whole point of **debiased** estimation. It scales the loss in such a way that it starts matching the v-prediction loss curve. Notice how "Debiased estimation vpred weighting * SNR(t)" and "SNR-like vpred loss" (red and orange) overlap. Probably.
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>>8271687
explain why you don't sound mad right now without sounding mad
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>don't even want to fap anymore, just make sfw shit instead
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>>8271693
Edging so hard to these graphs rn.
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>>8271636
>>8271652
Update to latest and download this version of the model from >>8268426 if you want it to Just Work: https://mega.nz/file/wg4wkZZQ#LAwPGflkq3IDwH03SMzddQoSOYlDoCqIbHu-ao2KNf0
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>>8271689
>It scales the loss
It scales the effective SNR of the loss* would probably be more correct...
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>re-caption character outfit names so that there's as little token overlap as possible
>the outfits are even more inconsistent now
i dunno why the AI gets character features right around 80-100% of the time but the moment you try also giving them an outfit it fucks up, even though the characters are still right
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/r/ link to the schizo finetune extract rentry
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>don't even want to fap anymore, just research which loss weighting (don't confuse with weight loss) strategy is the best
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>>8271709
https://rentry.org/lora-is-not-a-finetune#migrating-from-easyscripts-to-sd-scripts
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>>8271709
https://rentry.org/lora-is-not-a-finetune
Here's also a few interesting things (timestep shift, soft min snr gamma)
https://rentry.org/shitty_loras
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>>8271710
I'M CUMMMMMMMMMMMMMINGGG
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I don't understand why it's such an ordeal to get a proper kiss.
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>>8271713
too bad charts like these are useless because loss is an absolutely dogshit garbage metric
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>>8271714
Why is there a nipple on her ass
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why is it melting
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>>8271717
it's a sore from sitting in a gaming chair all day
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>>8271717
God dammit.
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>>8271717
adetailer probably
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>>8271726
That's why I always do it by hand, can't trust those soulless extensions
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>>8271713
naughty sluts
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>>8271706
Ramp up the text encoder to a billion
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>>8271696
>mega link of a model file
come on
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>>8271711
>>8271712
so i dont have easyscripts and therefore no initial config files to export, guess it's time to RTFM
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>>8271714
>>8271717
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>>8271717
it's a troon
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>>8271754
why bother to fix the ass nipple, but not the cronenberg movie going on on his neck?
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>>8271758
>cronenberg movie going on on his neck?
Holy kek
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>>8271750
Here's my config that I use for styles, but it uses timestep shift fuckerty.
https://files.catbox.moe/i4avw5.toml
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>>8271760
ty
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>>8271717
IT'S EVOLUTION BABY
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>>8271761
And it also uses RexAnnealingWarmRestarts from easyscripts, which requires the cycle size to be set in steps, so you have to calculate it manually.
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>>8271721
Sleep paralysis much?
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>>8271764
Not the worst way to go
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>>8271742
it's already pretty high
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>>8271696
I heard there is some extension to enable v-pred
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how bad would a lora trained on uncleaned/cropped manga pages be?
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>>8271696
CAPTAIN!
STATUS UPDATE!
IT DOES NOT JUST WORK!
(I ran update.bat before trying)
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>>8271774
Should be fine with masked losses
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>>8271777
Here's one with v-pred key in metadata, still a bandaid fix
https://mega.nz/file/cpwSAZgJ#LJ4Chabs5am_mpefIO7pmFPY9Zz9W6tC9QfUVcjFH9k
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>>8271777
your download is probably corrupted
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is there anything like booru dataset tag manager for linux?
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rambling a bit, about to try my first lora in forever, pls interrupt me if something seems too stupid

ive got 24 pictures for a character lora, using this script as a base https://files.catbox.moe/0orpfq.ps1
i have 16GB vram to work with
ill do 3 repeats 15 epochs
ill try adding --network_train_unet_only

and otherwise ill leave it alone and see what happens
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>>8271790
and by lora i mean eventual locon extraction
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>>8271790
For character ones you usually want to train TE too.
As it uses timestep shift, you want to adjust it to the left, like 0.25-0.5
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>>8271790
>>8271791
no module named triton
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>>8271793
ppk is already decently reproduced in noob and i think i need to scrimp on vram
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>>8271796
You can train TE with adafactor with 16gb of VRAM and batch size of 2.
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>>8271793
>>8271794
oh, i dont have timestep shit merged and it just didnt recognize arguments
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>>8271798
Just remove it and use noise_offset.
Same for soft_min_snr_gamma - change it to the old min_snr_gamma=5
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Did things change that much in the last year?
Trying ai gen again, this time with ComfyUI, but any model I try, image comes out fucked up.
Didn't have this issue with A1111 and nai.
Is there something I'm missing?
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>>8271806
>512x512
Use 1024x1024, 832x1216, 1280x768 and anything else that multiplies to about 1 million pixels.
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>>8271790
>ill try adding --network_train_unet_only
You can skip that since TE doesn't get trained by default in sdxl_train.py

You might need --full_bf16 ` or to lower the batch size (and maybe learning rate if you do that?) to run that config with 16GB. Other anon talking about shift is probably right, I've no clue if training TE for charas is good or not though.
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>>8271807
why give misleading advice like this? just to troll? we all were newfags at some point, don't be a cunt
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so i get:
Measuring folders:
3: 3 repeats * 24 images = 72
Total images with repeats: 72
Max training steps 72 / 2 * 16 = 576
Warmup steps: 29, Batch size: 2, Epochs: 16

then later: ERROR No data found. Please verify the metadata file and train_data_dir option
i have matching .txt files in the same folder as the images
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Sepia is only an issue on epsilon prediction.
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>>8271715
It's still the single most important metric in model training, it's just that a lot of model trainers get tunnel vision on the ML side and don't pay attention to the actual output quality as much as they should. More of an issue in textgen, but still.
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>>8271823
Probably your data dir contains subfolders
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>>8271825
this, easyfluff having extreme case of sepia was a naigger fud
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>>8271829
Easyfluff had sepia (especially in v10, v11.2 was much better about it) becayse it was a shitmix. It wasn't an issue with base Fluffyrock.
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>>8271820
Go do something productive with your time.
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Be honest with me. Does noob eps have awful noise issues like illust? I had fun with smooth illust but the noise was a dealbreaker.
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>>8271833
It trades off the noise/artifact issues for slightly worse colors, but I would say that as of eps 0.5 it's absolutely worth switching over from base/smoothft. Anatomy, concepts, overall cohesion are just so much better.
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Is there a trick to get get eps to play nice in comfy besides switching to eps in the model sampling? The gens are looking like dogshit compared to the v_pred model using the same setup.
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>>8271836
colors don't matter imo they can be fixed in like 30 different ways. I'll try eps. I heard it sucks dick at inpainting (but im certain I can make it work). know of anything else it's bad at?
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>>8271828
i remembered the naming convention backwards: ppk_3 instead of 3_ppk
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>>8271838
you don't need the modelsamplingdiscrete node for eps
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>>8271789
I mean, there is always hydrus network
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dont forget that you can upload an image alongside your post before you hit submit
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so this seems unreasonably slow compared to what i remember getting in the past, am i just choking my card's 16GB or is finetune training just that much slower?
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>>8271845
not everyone is a neet gooning all day and not everyone has a comfy job where they're genning remotely through a VR headset from miles away. Everyone post cannot (and should not) have an image.
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>>8271846
Did you enable full_bf16? Also check your task manager, if your GPU uses shared gpu memory - you're hitting oom.
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>>8271846
triton for windows doko?
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>>8271850
yeah it's hitting shared memory
and oops, looks like i erased full_bf16 in a ctrl+z and didnt see it
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>>8271839
>colors don't matter imo they can be fixed in like 30 different ways
eps models inherently produce images that fall in the middle of the color gamut so it's all over the place. sure you can fix the contrast or vibrance in post, but that doesn't fix the dynamic range of gamut to begin with, especially during inference.
that said the eps 0.5 model is definitely more stable than v-pred currently. I'm enjoying both for their strengths.
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ahh there we go, the coil whine is hitting the right notes now
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just gen black and white, chuds
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Someone catbox their best noob image so I can see your settings, please.
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>>8271865
from last thread
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Where do you post your slop? Other than this thread?
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>>8271871
Sent ;)
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>>8271867
that's not a real catbox, that's a catbox full of spaghett.

>>8271871
any board I regularly post on. not trying to become an eceleb or grifter.
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>>8271871
I can't say or else this thread would attack me.
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>>8271871
take the cthulhu pill
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>>8271875
for >>8271873
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>>8271871
i print it, laminate it and post signs in my yard
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>>8271874
Is it that bad?
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>>8271871
Only here and in a personal discord where my friends and I share gens. I think posting on socials and polluting pixiv etc is a blight.
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>>8271871
/hdg/ booru when
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>>8271841
Ah, the one thing i didn't try, thanks.
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>>8271865
This at 1.5-2 is the secret magic sauce that anons want to hide from you. The rest is whatever.
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>>8271871
civitai
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jordach will save us
two more weeks
trust the knot
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>>8271883
Ima be honest, what the fuck is that
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>>8271874
Blackedbro...
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>>8271788
Yeah that was it. God I hate Mega.
>>8271850
What can I do about the shared gpu memory thing?
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>>8271887
How's his 1.5 training does?
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>>8271871
pixiv, trooncord
I don't post pics here though
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>>8271871
Not here
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>>8271883
mustard gas is coming out of my gpu now wtf
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>>8271871
Usually the /b/ thread since it does not adhere to the pesky rules of /h/
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>>8271891
>What can I do about the shared gpu memory thing?
Your current pipeline doesn't fit in your vram. You can try using options like full_bf16, reduce batch size, use memory efficient optimisers (like adafactor). Or quants, as a last resort.
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>>8271888
merge sig
for great justice
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>>8271883
While it does stabilize colors, it makes the gen itself really unstable. At least on a few of my mixes.
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>>8271871
Here, occasionally post on trash or vg.
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>>8271901
>vg
Kek, last time I tried that, I got about 15 seething (you)s
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i now remember some chatter about avoiding training on top of standard tags
im training ppk girls frontline, just the regular costume. i started by scraping booru tags, appended autotags at about 0.7 confidence, and cleaned up inane things like skeb_commission. that's what im training now. if shit's fucked up, should i try a different strategy on the captions?
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>>8271892
already surpassed nai3 and only getting stronger
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>>8271905
i think you might be misremembering? training with booru tags is fine, but consolidating booru tags so you just have one set of tokens for each concept in a dataset works better. so instead of white thighhighs, thighhighs, striped thighhighs you'd just have striped thighhighs.
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>>8271905
You mentioned using sub-50 images. With that amount I'd recommend manual tagging. You can use BDTM with taggers, but instead of autotagging - pick tags manually.
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>>8271905
You might want to try a normal ass lora with some anons tried and true settings before you go off the deep end with captions and shit. A finetune script made for styles might not be the best for characters.
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>>8271920
i believe in schizo technology
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>>8271883
from just a cursory test, this serves to flatten the colors in results
instead of favoring gradients, you'll get a more toon cutoff on shading.
it also myseriously made the SFX bubbles disappear but I'm gonna put that down to RNG
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>>8271920
He's not using shit like step shift and soft snr, so it should work fine for characters too.
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>>8271857
her nails piercing tits look extremely painful
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>>8271933
broken penis look more painful
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Tony is worse than EPIC
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>>8271935
oh god wtf
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ok i get a gigantic error message on the locon extraction script, looks like all the keys are missing and all the blocks have size mismatches
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>>8271898
Gotcha, thanks.
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>>8271938
Show the args
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>>8271937
it's nai
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>>8271940
python .\__extractthis.py "C:\Users\anon\ai\ComfyUI_windows_portable\ComfyUI\models\checkpoints\Illustrious-XL-v0.1.safetensors" "C:\Users\anon\ai\training\ppk_illustrious01_00\ppk_illustrious01_00.safetensors" ".\ppk_extract.safetensors"
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https://files.catbox.moe/ngqikk.png
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>>8271943
You forgot like everything else.
It probably tries to load your checkpoints as a regular SD (non-XL).
Use the args from rentry. You can change quantile to fixed.
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>>8271950
oh, now i see the section in the rentry
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>>8271947
Straight to the spooky highlights
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>>8271933
for you
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>>8271947
>loli, child
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What is midjourney and why does it still look better than whatever it is we are doing?
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>>8271865
pls resbond. I can't seem to get noob working well.

>>8271883
I'll try this too but I need prompt structure and scheduler, etc
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>>8271961
it can't do /h/ so it doesn't matter, >>>/g/
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>>8271956
she grows up so it's needed to specify
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>>8271961
baby face aco slop isn't anime
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>>8271961
Closed-source censored model like dalle
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>>8271964
you got a catbox, if you dont want to decode eldritch noodle format then try civitai
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>>8271961
model trained by people with some aesthetic sense, unfortunately it isn't porn and isn't anime so it doesn't belong here
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>>8271947
finally an attractive feminine body
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>>8271961
yeah not really desu
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>>8271947
nightmare fuel background crowd
add depth of field
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>>8271979
nah im too lazy i took one look at that shit and said i am never going to bother fixing it
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>>8271961
Pretty sure you could gen something like this in noob/nai with nironiro/wlop/sakimichan and tacticool tags
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>>8271964
Noob is shit. Stick to pony.
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Help, I'm turning into a yurifag
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>>8271980
yeah i mean for further gens its usually just better to blur it i think
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>>8271984
men are kinda gross anyway
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>>8271961
looks like 1.5 slop
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>>8271984
yuri is based
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>>8271992
Exactly. Better than the trash models we are using today
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>>8271993
it's even more based when an ugly bastard comes around and corrupts them
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>>8271964
>pls resbond. I can't seem to get noob working well.
Just steal a prompt from civitai, as long as it doesn't have score_# shit it should be fine
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>>8271984
have you started taking hrt yet?
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>>8271998
this
only one of them though
other one remains pure
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>>8272000
I'm not a westoid, we don't welcome this shit here
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>>8272000
you sure jerk off to a lot of /h/, anon. have you, erm, actually started having sex yet howeverbeit?
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>>8272005
with who?
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>>8271984
Based
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>>8271900
>>8271922
The style influence is definitely there. I tried it a few days ago with some schizo prompts and it was an improvement most of the time. Tested again with various prompts and I may have been drunk on snake oil desu. Usually works very nice with 'viewfinder'.
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ok not the worst, ill try applying my own schizo ministrations to the process and see how it goes
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>>8271936
>joined yesterday
>400 messages already
>in a small trooncord server
jesus christ
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>>8272020
kek
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>>8272020
This is not how i remember pumpkin night
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>>8272017
You probably want more samples. Try to increase the repeats, 5 works for me.
Also enable random crop in the data args.
If you use default cosine schedule - you can try to adjust T_0 to 4 for more even cycles. Not sure why it's 5 in the rentry.
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>>8271660
The wd-eva02-large-tagger-v3 by the same guy is the best IMO
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>>8272020
I can see the goat horn
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>>8271961
I'll pay you 50 bucks per month and sign any NDA if you were to give me access to a model that does well /h/, /uooh/, and generates accurate /k/ all in the same picture
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>>8272031
do you mean like flawless /k/ autism from txt2img?
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>>8271883
is this an extension or what
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>>8272020
kek, nice prompt
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>>8272034
Preferably flawless, but I guess I can tolerate some fused cleaning rods to barrels if the shape is accurate to corresponding firearm model
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What are some good settings when training a character with like 80 pics for a vpred model?
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in forge does the separate CFG for highres even work? It doesn't do anything setting it to either 2 or 4
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>>8272042
That should be enough. You can use repeats+random crops+random flips if you want.
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a fly just flew over my head and whispered me that best settings for vpred+ztsnr training are vpred+ztsnr+fixed debiased+scale_v_pred_loss_like_noise_pred
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>>8272046
Is this a new meme or something?
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>>8272041
yeah I'm no gun autist but I think nai did alright cunnies with m1911/ar15 pics, noob should handle that well enough too with enough luck and a bit of inpainting
but yeah perfect txt2img guns are not happening with 4ch vae
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>>8272045
Yeah but how many steps and what ought the TE be for something like Prodigy or AdaFactor? I've trained one with 1.0 1200 steps on Prodigy and I felt like it was fucking up the faces, but any less and it stopped getting the headshape and details right.
Also why does only OneTrainer support turning off TE mid-training?
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>>8272049
vpred has been a meme since ef+hll
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>>8272035
built in extension in this branch https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-reForge/commits/dev_upstream/
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>>8272051
What's the batch size?
You can try to use lr chedules, like cosine.
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Any reason to use anything like LoCon or LoHa or LyCoris over normal loras for training characters?
>>8272057
I've only ever trained at batch size 1.
>lr schedules like cosine
What do they actually do? For my training results, not how they mathematically work.
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>>8272062
They can help you with stucking on local minima (stopping learning the character/style at some point)
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>>8272056
i switched to that yesterday when people were talking about vpred but im not seein it so its some sort of skill issue looks like
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>>8272039
The pasties are kind of volatile but I'm happy with how well they work most times. Sometimes it comes out a little odd though.
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>>8272062
cosine with restarts / CAWR is really great, it makes it try to relearn n times which helps it avoid overttaining. personally i like 2 restarts the best
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>>8272070
wtf is this
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>>8272073
an odd outcome
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>>8272053
HLL often made EF worse because no version of it was ever trained above a 640x640 baseline AFAIK, whereas EF and Fluffyrock in general were basically intended to be used at higher res than that. A 1024 trained HLL would have gone unbelievably hard though.
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well i finally finished going through all 250+ pixiv pages again for my dataset...
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>>8272089
hope is a fart lora
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>>8272093
Noob already does farting sir
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>>8272070
they are kissing!
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>>8272093
its sex machines again silly
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>>8272070
peak
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is vpred work on reforge main now?
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lately got kinda obsessed with animating hentai by hand then enhancing with AI after. also with editing porn gifs... obsessed w/ slime girl right now....
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>>8272114
At 0:07 and 0:09 his penis becomes completely detached, poor guy
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>>8272114
some parts of that are surprisingly good
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>>8272114
enhancing = img2img pass? what does the original look like?
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>>8271331
I prefer the other type of indian, but she's cute too
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>>8271422
I love this one, is there more?
>>8271461
Perfect creampie
>>8271470
Best girl
>>8271476
Always down for Raiden suck, she has the best face for it!
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>>8271632
Oh shit, its the waif
>>8271637
Actually kind of romantic
>>8271714
Yay, drill girl again, I love her
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>>8272127
>>8272129
just... stop
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>>8272127
>>8272129
Stop giving me rule34 comment section flashbacks
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>>8272132
God I wish someone would pound my delicious and tight wet pussy like that
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>>8272133
That's pretty tame tbqh
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>>8272132
gelbooru one, before the purge, was "better"
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>>8272132
>Stop giving me rule34 comment section flashbacks
But why not? Isn't feeling my wet walls grip your condomless dick the best feeling in the world? Why don't you want me to delve deeper into my slutty nature, sliding up and down your hard aching dick? Do you not want me to make your glans throb in the deepest recesses of my pussy, until you can't hold back anymore, flooding my slutty cunt with your disgusting nerd seed?
Just let it happen anon, just lay there and take it like a good boy, let me give you cum shivers so intense you'll beg me to slow down. Let me be your little rule 34 slut for all time, we can stay in this room, squishing our genitals together until we are flooded with so much pleasure I flop down onto your chest, spasming while you're still penetrating me....
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>shivers
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i wish i was a slutty little whore like rem~ i’d love to be just like her~
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Help. I lost list or rentry with styles that NovelAI understands, with thumbnails
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>>8272132
goon
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at least the schizo is doing something new for once i guess
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>>8272145
https://rentry.org/NAIDv3artisttagtestoverview
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>>8272140
go be gay in a thread that's meant for it or in private. elsewise kermit sewerslide.
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>>8272153
>kermit sewerslide
kill yourself back to discord retard
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>>8272140
mhhhhh yes mistress i feel your warm wet pussy it feels so good inside i want to spurt my baby making dick milk inside you ahhhh
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Well, at least this is funnier than model shitflinging
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>>8272156
it isn't
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>>8272120
yep – img2img using the Ebsynth utility plugin

heres the original animation i made. i posted a few earlier versions with the 69 part too in the hentai gif&webm thread + the OC from Aurelia.
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>>8272158
>t. pony user
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The english language was a mistake. Lot more thirdies would be gatekept from the internet if they had to learn french or high german
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>>8272160
i'm a nai user ;)
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>>8272027
nta
I usually cache latents so I can do other things while training which locks out random crop.

How drastic or notable is having random crop enabled?
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>>8272155
>mhhhhh yes mistress i feel your warm wet pussy it feels so good inside i want to spurt my baby making dick milk inside you ahhhh
That's a good boy, I bet you never wanna slide out of this tight little slit, do you? You want to let loose spurt after spurt of your baby making dick milk inside me, letting me continue to bounce and ride that shaft, making your legs straighten out and your toes curl as you orgasm, while the audience of angry nogens watches your cock pulse and fill me with sperm. It makes them so angry that it's you and not them being milked...don't worry about them baby, just let me work my magic on you, until you cum so much you can't see straight...
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>>8272162
kys shill
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stop the cringy erp
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>>8272132
Haha swetie don be sad, send bob vegane, namaste <3
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>>8272167
what are you going to do about it?
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>>8272167
>nogen
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>>8272153
>go be gay in a thread that's meant for it or in private. elsewise kermit sewerslide.
It's not gay if I'm playing the girl, dontcha know <3
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Where is anon's mom when you need her
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why do noob v5 gens look fried?
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>>8272177
it's chinknai
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V4 status?
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>>8272181
Two more weeks
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Jordach status?
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GODstralite please save us
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>>8272186
never post here again
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Tree just passed away
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>>8272188
who is tree?
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>>8272188
How'd you know? Not like the guy has a discord bot hooked up to his pacemaker
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>>8272188
>one less furfag
based
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>>8272190
I made it up
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>>8272188
you have to be over 18 to use this site
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>>8272186
how is that isn't in every erp lora dataset
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noob examples use this negative:
text,watermark,bad anatomy, bad proportions, extra limbs, extra digit, extra legs, extra legs and arms, disfigured, missing arms, too many fingers, fused fingers, missing fingers, unclear eyes,watermark,username
I have very low expectations already.
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Who is Tony talking to?
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>>8272197
blud is straight waffling
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>>8272188
Got any examples of their work? RIP
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>>8272199
fr fr no cap on god
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>>8272174
Anon..
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>>8272125
why is her torso so long?
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>>8271767
>>8272114
>>8272159
I like how /hdg/ casually outdoes /ddg/
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Best fox, best wife
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>>8272204
it's noob
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>>8272203
>anon balls deep in his mom
based!
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>>8272202
skibidi as fuck, rizzed out of his mind
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>>8272159
your original looks better than the end product
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>>8272207
looks like pony tho
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>>8272212
it's The MiqoMix
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>>8272205
it's painfully bland
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>>8272216
why is it so blurry?
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>>8272217
It's gooknai
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Why is it ai?
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>>8272217
it's cunny
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>>8272204
Oops
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>>8272217
why do you keep tormenting this thread?
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>>8272222
How can noob compete with this?
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>>8272223
it's nai
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>>8272223
he's having a perpetual meltie
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>>8272229
Redeem the box sir
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>>8272159
yeah, what >>8272211 said is why I wanted to see it without img2img. it's disorienting to see it fade through each individual img2img pass. your base animation looks much nicer.
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How many of you actually enjoy ugly bastards?
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>>8272239
post the box and we can find out
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>>8272239
I enjoy them but smegma is too much for me.
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>>8272239
i enjoy cute girls more
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it's... something at least. I will have to cave in one day and get Nvidia both for work and this but it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be

(ComfyUI Zluda on Windows with a 6650XT)
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>>8272244
>comfy and amd
the self-loathing is strong with this one
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>>8272245
yes
I will try with other UIs next but I'll keep whatever gives me the quickest results
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Anons could I get your opinions on these three style mixes on noobai? I'm having a really hard time deciding between these three, and a second opinion would really be appreciated. Currently I'm leaning most to the left and middle one, but if you think all three suck, please don't hesitate to say so.
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>>8272183
autism drove him insane and gave up on finetuning Cascade.
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>>8272239
So noob actually can into smeg? Lol
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>>8272247
Middle has best body. Right has best face but not by much.
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>>8272188
>Tree
Who is Tree?
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>>8272247
I like the eyes the most on the right and the face of the middle
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>>8272248
Tree recently stated that he's still working on the 3.6B cascade bake.
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>>8272246
>I'll keep whatever gives me the quickest results
That would be new forge
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>>8272247
>noobai
stop wasting your time
everyone will switch back to pony in a month at best
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>>8272258
Personally? I already switched back. Just look at all of the gens I'm not posting to prove it!
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>>8272247
from left to right, sovl -> sovlless
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>>8272247
2 or 3
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>>8272259
i'm just waiting out the shill wave, it's impossible to post pony gen without shitposters attacking it like rabid dogs.
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>>8272247
I like right a lot more but its more generic
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>>8272263
kk good luck bro
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I genuinely believe that ayakon is the last unironic ponyposter left.
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>>8272255
their shit took so much time for jordach to get his head out of his ass (he went deeper somehow) that their model is already outdated before the bake even started
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>>8272263
why is it so sepia slop?
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We love pony here
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>>8272266
but what abou-
>unironic
oh nevermind
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>>8272239
I sometimes do
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>>8272271
why is the anatomy so shit?
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>>8272266
even jeets like zoot stayed on illu after reintroducing some aomslop into the model via their own fried finetunes.
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>>8272247
Left is soulful, right is pure sloppa
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>>8272273
it's imitating real art
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>>8272274
please don't use the j slur here
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>>8272279
what other slur should i use?
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>>8272283
jigger
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Sirs...
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Is there a way to do spritesheets in SD?
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>>8272252
>>8272254
>>8272262
>>8272264
>>8272277
So seems the general consensus is middle and right is better, thanks for the feedback. I think I'll try and see if mixing the style from both images can produce something that takes the best from both and combines them.
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You now remember SD 1.1
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>>8272290
Also it's a good reminder that at the end of the day pick the style that you enjoy, not the one that others enjoy.
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>>8272295
moar
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How do you come up with an artist mix? Are there any "rules" or do you just throw shit at the wall until something sticks?
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>>8272297
use artists you like and go from there.
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>>8272297
Back in the days of easyfluff I threw wildcards at it. Nowadays with loras being required it's dogshit like >>8272298
which I personally refuse to participate in
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>>8272300
You refuse to use artists you like?
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>>8272300
What dogshit? I don't understand this post
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>>8272300
use wildcards with loras retard
also new model dont need lora if you just want to slop mix
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wife
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>>8272297
Base: some prominent artist with large amount of posts on danbooru that you like the most
Padding: search danbooru for concepts you try to employ and select from smaller artists that do such concepts well
The rest is iterating upon several seeds to determine the weights
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>>8272297
I looked through AI booru for nai mixes I like and start from there. It's pretty easy to change some stuff around and get a stable look from that base.
>>8272300
I haven't had a need to use a LoRA for fairly ok mixes.
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>>8272296
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>>8272309
yessss keep em cumming
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>>8272306
when comes the part where she's coughing blood?
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>>8272306
cute
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>>8272297
consider what you want out of it and how artists would get cross-wise to each other. for example, if you want hard shading, you really can't include any artists that do soft shading because it will often overpower.
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>>8272312
she is supposed to be cured with her swimsuit version and some asspull
>>8272313
ty
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>>8272306
why is your wife so blurry and full of jpeg artifacts
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>>8272318
what is jpeg artifacts
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>>8272318
idk I think im not using the correct settings for the upscale with noob
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Give me spooky meme prompts
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>>8272318
fuck off
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>>8272330
It's over for NAIkeks
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>>8272330
GET HYPE BABY. LET'S GO. LET'S GO.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbQC9clc4fI
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>>8272330
Not touching ponyshit ever again
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>>8272330
>captioning
??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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>>8272336
It'll be a total failure, it's just funny to observe Xir lead on the civit jeets.
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>>8272330
New pony will be Flux or SDXL?
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>>8272336
kill yourself
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>>8272343
ehehehe look at this guy..... hahaha what a fool
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>>8272343
BWHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
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What are the sexiest 1girl prompts that fit in 1024x1024?
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>>8272350
Take any 1girl prompt and add (1boy, 1girl, pov penis, erect penis, male masturbation, motion blur, projectile cum)
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>>8272330
LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOO
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>>8272343
AuraFlow
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>>8272355
I kinda doubt that he'll go ahead with that
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Janny status?
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>>8272360
based
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>>8272339
>>8272360
Jannie not gonna like this
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CAN WE GET A JANNY?
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>prompt shiny skin
>face isn't shiny
i'm mad
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>>8272363
On hotpocket break it seems
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I love lolis so much
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>>8272360
requesting a gaping loli anus full of cum
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>>8272353
Thanks, will use this! This is what NAI is giving me though. Doesn't seem like it's what you had in mind, is it?
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Jannies been hit by a smooth criminal
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based jannies luring all the pedos out with a moment of lax moderation to then ban them all at once
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>>8272372
NAI sucks ass than
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>>8271295
florence nightengale dressed as nurse servicing black patient with her mouth. annilingus or blowjob
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>>8272373
JANNY ARE YOU OKAY?
ARE YOU OKAY?
ARE YOU OKAY JANNY
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>>8272372
Why is it
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>>8272309
boxem
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thank god the jannies did something, think of mr advertiserberg
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>>8272377
>>8272383
Yeah, I'm disappointed with NAI overall but I had to RMA my GPU so I'm stuck with it for the time being. I really wish I could get more quality out of it, but I'm staying under the limits for unlimited gens.

At least I have unlimited gens for the month though, and NAI is fast so that's one good point for it.
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>>8272386
Just use artist tags
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>>8272387
Which artist tags both work and are good though?
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i want to kick the "new" falseflagger in the teeth
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>>8272390
the ones you like. you do have an encyclopedic knowledge of /h/ artists and can tell which ones can compliment each other, right anon? don't tell me you're... a tourist...
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>>8271672
uglybastardbox?
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>>8272390
kill yourself falseflagger
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>>8272390
I like a weakened asura (asurauser) as an addon, other than that tsurui, kamo (gafas), 40010prototype, aaaa (quad-a)
idk honestly just go through the booru with a tag you want and look for artists with 100+ works, guaranteed to work well.
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>>8272391
>Highlights nai's flaws
>Gives an authentic account of the new user nai experience
>somehow is a falseflagger for that
???
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>>8272398
who are you quoting?
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>>8272398
Actually true, convinced a friend to try NAI and he thought it was worse than pony kek. It really isn't new user friendly.
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>>8272401
always good to remind oneself that india's average iq is 75
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>>8272397
Thank you kindly, will try those out!

>idk honestly just go through the booru with a tag you want and look for artists with 100+ works, guaranteed to work well.

That's actually what I'm trying, however all the top rated ones I'm looking at have a low artist count and don't seem to be recognized. Is there a way to sort on Gelbooru/Danbooru by artist count?
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>>8272401
Trvke
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>>8272403
NTA but bro not everyone wants to grind to a artist mix, I say as a guy who likes doing it, it's a chore.
>>8272404
Use the related tags on danbooru and change category to artist.
https://danbooru.donmai.us/related_tag
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>>8272404
>Is there a way to sort on Gelbooru/Danbooru by artist count?
Dunno. Never tried, would like to know if there is a way too
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>>8272360
me on the left
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For a panda girl, does white hair with black ears and accents work well?

>>8272410
Thanks to >>8272409 for being awesome then. That worked, thanks anon! Now I've got to figure out which artist mix will look good, will do some testing.
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>>8272148
based fairy fucker. now someone post Gallica.
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>>8272222
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>>8272274
how would you know what someone is "on" though unless they were a namefag or something lol
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how do I run hand detailer at the same time as face detailer in comfyui? surely there is a way to attach both to the same facedetailer node and not need to run it twice, right?
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>>8272427
If you just want to reduce the node count, you could group them. Grouping is currently shit though, breaks a lot of things.
If you want to run it in a single pass, that doesn't make sense to do. Detailer nodes are cropping the input. Since the face and hands are normally far apart you'd just get worse results if you try to run it in a single pass since the crop would no longer be able to focus on a single detail.
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>>8271903
depends on the general and how anti-slop they are
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>>8272423
three quarters of this thread are pseudo-avatarfags
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>>8272159
pretty solid puppet animation here
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>>8272434
ah, that makes sense. mostly I just wanted to try to make it take less gen time by doing 'both at once', but when you put it that way it really wouldn't work. oh well, doubling up it is
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procrastinated some but v2 is a lot better, ty anons that helped out, will upload after testing a bit
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>>8272427
>jima
based taste, although it's underbaked sadly
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Why do civitjeets laugh emote at images when there is nothing inherently wrong or funny about the gen? Wtf does it mean to them?
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Sorry if this is an off topic question, but I couldn't think of a better place to ask
There are a ton of threads on AI image gen, and a few threads on AI text gen, does anyone have any resources they could point me to for AI voice gen? A quick google search brings up a few novelty sites, but nothing super robust really
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>>8272447
>voice gen
dead in the water. still.
id give it at least 3 more months until a solid foundation to build off of exists
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>>8272445
>although it's underbaked sadly
yeah it definitely is, I have to adjust my params because fingers started getting fucked up by the last epoch rippu
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>>8272446
They get buzz for doing it
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>>8272290
So I'm back again pleading for your second opinion and guidance regarding stylemixes, now with much more explicit examples!
Left is an approximate mix of styles from the two before mentioned middle and right Asuka images that anons seemed to like, and right is an entirely different style that I forgot I had lying around.
While I think the left one is prettier and fits the general anime aesthetic more (sovl), I like the right one for it's rougher textures in general, esp. on clothing and skin - the style has some funk and sass that I like.
I honestly like both equally, and I'm equally torn between these two. Again, I would appreciate your opinions if you don't mind.
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>>8272454
Take guro to >>>/b/
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>>8272452
Wouldn't it be faster to click one of the already chosen emotes that isn't the laughing face then? I'm overthinking it.
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anyone here have experience in training character outfit loras? looking for advice mostly on the dataset/captioning side
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>>8272455
Excuse me? Where are you seeing guro in my post?
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>>8272447
I'm sorry to say but the general for AI voice gen is on /mlp/
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>>8272454
I think they are both fine.
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>>8272447
This one came out recently
https://github.com/SWivid/F5-TTS
Demo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1IfEP93V_4
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>>8272461
seems like they're currently fawning over parlerTTS, which still isnt great
if only the 15ai creator wasnt a schizo
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>>8272440
Looks great, what help did you get for making the LORA? Would you share what you did please, I'd like to make some today and haven't done it in a long time, OP LORA docs seem fairly old/muddled
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>>8272454
If it's not too much trouble, can you post which style mixes you're testing?

>>8272458
https://civitai.com/articles/138/making-a-lora-is-like-baking-a-cake is a LORA guide that includes steps for outfits and talks about training specifically for them (along with more general LORA training too)
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>>8271790
started with this post >>8272468, ended here >>8272027

and ive decided ill do a 3rd draft with further polished tagging
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>>8271790
batch size 1? depending on lr this seems like it could be pretty underbaked
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>>8272474
batch 2, 5 repeats, 24 images, 16 epochs, i saved epochs 15 and 16 and 16 is clearly better
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>>8272478
oh i'm just realizing you said character lora, not sytle. these days i'm not too familiar with how long/hard you need to bake characters since i haven't trained a character lora since nai leak days. carry on fellow trainer anon, godspeed
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>>8272450
Ah, I kinda figured. The president voices stuff was a meme for a while but I kinda didn't imagine it taking off as much as image gen did. That and it seems super complex in it's own right. What can you do
>>8272461
AIEEEEEEEEE
>>8272465
I will look into it, thank you
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>Try IP adapter, T2I, etc
>None compare to the power of NAI's vibe transfer as far as I can tell

Sad. I love vibe transfer but I'm not subbing.
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>>8272482
>The president voices stuff
well, there IS decent voice gen, but it's behind a saas paywall. those were made with elevenlabs
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>>8272458
im good at it
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>>8272483
what exactly are you trying to do? reference controlnet is good for style transfer and shuffle is good for composition transfer
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>>8272486
give me your toml buddy
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>>8272390
>Which artist tags both work and are good though?
can't go wrong with artist:j.k., {{{yd \(orange maru\)}}}, artist:redrop, artist:cutesexyrobutts, realistic, year 2023,
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>>8272488
what does that have to do with captions
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>>8272454
left one seems to suck at sex and anatomy
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>>8272485
That melina zero shot in the f5-tts demo sounded pretty good tbqhf
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>>8272489
Trying those next, here are the ones mentioned in >>8272397 .

I know that all art is a matter of perspective and what-not, but is there any reasonably objective way to tell what styles look good?
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>>8272494
>objective way to tell what styles look good
yd, misaka and haoni are objectively good because I like them
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>>8272469
Left one is:
> houkisei,(leviathan (\hikinito0902)\:0.8),(free style \(yohan1754\):0.8),(2n5:1.2),greatodoggo,mochirong,
Right one is:
> (fluffydango,dross:0.4),(ciloranko,quasarcake:0.8),(free style \(yohan1754\):0.8),
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>>8272487
>shuffle
nta but is there even a good version of this for xl models?
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what happened to the dude who was doing the vae decode thingy to fix jpeg artifacts?
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>>8272502
Those are undertraining artifacts and you can't fix them with VAE
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>>8272501
https://huggingface.co/bdsqlsz/qinglong_controlnet-lllite
there is a working one here
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>>8272487
I'm not sure how to word it, and I really don't know how it works under the hood, so bear with me, Anon. Basically, I like to throw in images that are quite extreme in detail and use their more obvious properties, mostly the added texturing and painting/shading/etc style to affect the outputs. For example, I made this creepy oni girl the other day by using pic related https://files.catbox.moe/zmc2hh.png

It's not for composition, I can say that much, but it's obvious I would've never gotten that red glow, textile, and texture in the background and clothes without this image.
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>>8272510
lol, based
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>>8272505
Try a double reference only controlnet. Have the first controlnet influence the first steps (set it from 0-0.1) and the second one the last steps (0.7-1). Set weight and fidelity to 1.
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>>8272485
>elevenlabs
Okay, this is more what I was imagining. A per month payment thing for it, like image and text have on various sites. I'll see what works for the things I'm thinking of
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>>8272502
ive been testing some more loss functions, but i dont want to put out a trillion half baked things + im thinking whether to wait for corpo gibs to refresh or not for a bit larger training run (my current dataset is only like 1k images)
the effect is only ever going to be subtle though, since i cant ever touch the encoder and i doubt i would be able to improve it anyways
you can try my newest candidate if you want https://pixeldrain com/l/WkpZ51hp its gonna be better than sdxl decoder, but i wouldnt trust any of those metrics so idk how much better each of those are comparatively in practice (for what its worth lpips_avgpool_e4 has the highest vmaf at 75.4019 compared to sdxls 71.341)
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>>8272527
now give her bbc (big blue cock)
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>>8271435
thanks bro
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>>8272528
very nice image, thanks for the metadata as well
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Any tips/rentry for animation? Luma service seems to not allow "inappropriate images". As if my anime girls are inappropriate just because some skin being shown.
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>>8272528
This reminds me of an incest game
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>>8272533
>tips
do it by hand, AI is not there yet.
Lumalabs is censored and is of subpar quality
Hailuoai is slightly less censored, but isnt great for 2d, and is now payment based
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Not sure how to tell how much an artist's style is being captured vs how much is just random noise.

>>8272496
You have good tastes anon!

>>8272499
Thank you kindly, really appreciate it!
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>>8272522
nta, the difference is very negligible but it is there. I don't know what voodoo you're doing exactly but I appreciate your efforts, anon.
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>>8272540
yeah, I would fuck them all.
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>>8272529
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>>8272540
By misaka he probably meant misaka12003gou
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>>8272537
>>8272533
There was a method before people were using where you take every frame of a video and generate an img2img then turn that back into a video automatically, what's the process to do that?
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>>8272545
he's just "pretending" to be retarded, pay him no mind
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https://files.catbox.moe/30u4vv.png
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>>8272544
lmao, nice teto. thanks for entertaining my shitpost, anon. I'm honestly very curious about the style/lora being used but I'll let you have your fun.
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>>8272510
and people wonder why robots always rebel
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Do either illustrious or noob beat pony in terms of comprehension? Or is their draw that they do anime better?
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>>8272545
>misaka12003gou

Thank you kindly! I don't actually know all these artists names. Included that one and I'm going down the most common artists on boorus now. It seems like some artists have a stronger style / the style gets picked up more than others.
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>>8272537
Not even kling?
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>>8272546
>Take video and extract key frames
>Line key frames up in a grid and use them as controlnet for t2i prompt
>Splice up key frame grid and use the first key frame as i2i input
>Take the second key frame as i2i controlnet and gen with 0.7 denoise
>Take the output for i2i and repeat with the 3 key frame as controlnet.
>Repeat until you have a finished clip
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>>8272561
I saw an automated process for this before, not sure if it was a ComfyUI workflow or an extension
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>tony still talking to himself
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>collarbone
I don't know why this is a tag but I will now question it as it helps in some cases.
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>>8272554
They know more concepts and have an easier time with conflicting tags than pony. Attention loss is the same since that's architecture thing
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>>8272513
Controlnet ref just straight up doesn't work in my version of reForged. Changes 0 pixels despite throwing up no error messages in the console.

would anyone know if controlnet integrated is fucked in reForged by any chance or am I just unlucky?
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>>8272563
who the fuck is tony
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>>8272566
not*
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>>8272569
Learn about EPIC first buddy
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>>8272550
very based, and thanks for the metadata anon!
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had to block that tony nigga a month ago cause he kept incessantly spamming my DMs with lora results
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More testing of the most common/popular artists on anime boorus.
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Oh! I saw someone posting some really good gens that were all black and white but with colored eyes. Is that what using nanashi \(nlo\) as an artist does? That happened here with no other changes to the prompt except the artist.
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>>8272542
its actually simple, i just jpeg compress the source (all pngs of course) randomly on a certain % chance, encode/decode it and calculate loss against the uncompressed target (source but unmodified)
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>>8272551
(the primary) artist is minpou (nhk)
don't look them up unless you want to develop a very abstract level of depression(though I think *booru purged a lot of their shit? or something). but here's a comic that was my first exposure of them
https://files.catbox.moe/yrfn69.jpg
also have a burg
https://files.catbox.moe/qo0oog.png
(also they haven't posted to twitter in nearly a year and I'm genuinely concerned for them)
not uploading the lora since it's a bit fried and I need to rerun it. I'm just doing random tests with it.
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>>8272571
Dont expect me to learn anything without screenshot of his retardation
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>>8272572
Happy to provide, anon
https://files.catbox.moe/qcobdz.png
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>>8272585
Very sovlful. I hope they're doing alright too. Thanks for sharing (and the burg), anon.
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it takes 30 more seconds to gen with the new noob vpred version. Weird
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>>8272591
is there a new vpred after 16th oct of noob?
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>>8272593
epsilon-vpred
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>>8272591
Works on my machine
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vpred is nice but how do you control saturation when genning (not using post processing like ps to manually change levels)? zsnr helps but half the time the gens i get are too saturated with it. as far as i can see with messing around with the advanced model sampling for forge settings most of the sliders don't do much
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>>8272569
ay tone
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>>8272598
the sliders aren't even supposed to show there. toggle one of the radio buttons at the top and back to the original one and they'll go away.
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HE'S 73RD AND WORKING ON THE TOP 10, YOU BITCH MOTHERFUCKS CANNOT COMPETE, DO NOT REDEEM, TONY IS A GOD!
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>>8272600
i figured since no matter how much i fucked with them notching changed but still leaves me with my question. i wonder if there's an extension to automate adjusting saturation
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>>8272598
if you meant reforge, sorry, reforge guy here. I just quickly ported it some months ago from Comfy but just made sure it worked, I'm still learning kinda gradio (yes i suck at front end)
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>>8272598
Remember to go in with the mindset that this is only a proof of concept. I think rescale may help with your problem though
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>>8272601
i barely got any downloads on my illust loras and hit top 40 so i believe in him
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>>8272601
people talk about pony being a scourge on imagegen but really no one talks about how much damage civitai as a whole has done
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>>8272602
use rescale like >>8272605 said or try vectorscope https://github.com/Haoming02/sd-webui-vectorscope-cc
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Anons, I might be schizo, but I think adding "worst quality, low quality, etc.." to the negative prompt actually for noob causes more noise/blur/etc.. seems like super simple negatives are the way to go.
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>>8272601
I saw I got a mention in that server and just knew it was going to be him, jesus fucking christ
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>>8272604
yeah i meant reforge
>>8272605
i understand. was just wondering if there were some settings/techniques i was missing. i'll check out rescale
>>8272608
will do
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>>8272601
I hate the damage civit/pony have done, tony really is just a victim. Someone save him
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>>8272564
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loli footjobs loli footjobs loli footjobs loli footjobs loli footjobs
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Imagine a threesome between b-, epic, and tony. aghhh.....
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>>8272601
lmfao
>>8272607
this, a site like it was inevitable but I certainly feel like
it's a root cause
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>>8272620
I'm like 15 years their senior fuck off
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>>8272614
I thought sakuya padded her chest. I was wrong.
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>>8272627
b- chan... fall into their arms...
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>>8272614
naisu
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>>8272630
gayest post itt
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>>8272629
I'd break a hip
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Turns out that NAI recognizes Ken Sugimori in addition to a bunch of hentai artists. Are there any other non-hentai artists like that with styles that are sampled well?
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>>8272636
Are you new to /h/ genuinely curious?
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>>8272636
Does the artist have more than 150-ish pictures that are larger than 768x768 on Danbooru? Then yes, both NAI and Illustrious will recognize them.
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>tony is learning
the world is healing
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>>8272564
>>8272617
very good stuff anonie
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>>8272636
there are even some western artists that it recognizes, its fun to experiment with
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how many more images can I post to the v-pred model page before I'm considered a pest? no ones really posting to it
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>>8272637
/hdg/ specifically yeah, usually I'm lurking in other threads but I want to make the most of NAI for this month that I've got it.

>>8272640
Yeah I'm going through all the artists on Danbooru/Gelbooru now to make a wild card. However, since the original SDXL model went beyond boorus there may be artists that were still sampled and work well that aren't on boorus. Tried some professional anime/manga artists and it seemed like they worked.

>>8272643
That's neat to know! Any really good ones you're aware of?
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>>8272646
It's happening either way, so if you are doing to promote it, you probably don't need to. Other than that, doubt anyone cares.
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>>8272640
you mean that nai recognizes it and illustrious might or might not since it doesn't use tag frequency loss scaling
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>>8272652
nothing on local comes even close to vibe transfer, don't bother
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>>8272642
thank you
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>>8272653
so true sister buying 50 nai subs right now
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>>8272648
I just like having a place to post them, I think. I'm also a total faggot and enjoy the pointless validation of the little emojis
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>>8272657
mindbroken
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>>8272656
>noobaiVpredItercomp_v1.safetensors
any thoughts on this compared to the standard v-pred test version?
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Could a kind anon with some time try this anon's >>8272513 method with my image? Catbox with metadata. Pardon the extremely basic prompt and upscaler, tried on a fresh install of Forge and I cannot get one single pixel to change using Reference Only.

Maybe I fucked up somewhere really obvious? I just can't see it though. That and I'd like to know if the method works for anyone.

https://files.catbox.moe/06c7y0.png

>>8272653
Maybe so but high chance is that there's something awry with my set up, and besides, if it works for someone else I might learn something new. Maybe even we.
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Any of you can dedect what lora / checkpoint used for this? There is no metadata inside them (i think) https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/123344151
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>>8272660
it makes it more stable but I feel like it has less sovl somehow, can't really explain it
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>>8272653
>>8272652
I can do a Vibe Transfer for anyone if they want it, trying to make the most of NAI while I got it.
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>>8272660
situational. it has a major preference towards creating sharper looking images which can sometimes be undesired, but feels like a nice upgrade in other circumstances.
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>>8272664
it's nai
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Where do you get controlnet models? Went to turn it back on to try something in reforged and I have no controlnet models in the folder.
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>>8272633
Sorry
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>>8272670
It's a model type on CivitAI, you can get a bunch of them there: https://civitai.com/search/models?modelType=Controlnet&sortBy=models_v9

You could also try re-installing the extension, since it should come with a bunch by default.
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lol Cloud in the background
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>>8272669
holy shit....
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>>8272665
>>8272667
thanks guys
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>>8272674
I installed canny from the OP link and it says non type iterable so I guess part of hwat I was asking is the built in extension for controlnet with reforged using v1 or v1.1?
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>>8272675
why it's so aco
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>>8272662
What >>8272653 said is right. Reference ControlNet is unfortunately going to come nowhere close to NAI. They claim their implementation is neither ControlNet nor IPAdapter.
I get this w/o ControlNet: https://files.catbox.moe/8wfiw7.png
I get this with anon's suggested ControlNet settings: https://files.catbox.moe/suve1c.png
And this is what I get with reference attn+adain turn up at full strength during the entire gen: https://files.catbox.moe/mjcenn.png
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>>8272668
Can you see metadata in them?
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>>8272669
three
thousand
epochs
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very safe image
https://files.catbox.moe/ldmhd3.png
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>>8272685
it's a patreonfag, they obviously scrub the metadata before uploading to pixiv
if you don't value your time you could check every single image he posted and hope he forgot to scrub it for one of them
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i feel like vibe transfer is close to this
https://github.com/genforce/ctrl-x
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>>8272554
I've spent all day gacha-ing with noob. fantastic knowledge of characters & artists. great knowledge of tags.
kind of dogwater at reliably producing images. like ten times more gacha than pony.
straight up doesn't listen to your prompt half the time.
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>>8272676
spooks
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>>8272627
h-hot...
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>>8272694
I feel like it the gatcha thing is good in one way, feels like it gives more variety to the poses/images. But yeah
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>>8272700
extremely based
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>>8272707
the creativity is unrelated to the reliability. I don't know the mechanics behind it so I won't claim to know how they fucked up but I know there are creative models that still listen.
the fact that im getting text here pisses me off to absolutely no end. like 1 in 4 have text. and then 1 in 4 have dark skinned male.
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Thanks to everyone in the thread who pitched in with artist mixes and such. Here's an artist wildcard file that includes the artist mixes that were posted, all the most popular artists on Danbooru/Gelbooru by tag count, and some famous mangaka who seemed to be sampled well enough or at least didn't actively make things worse (like pic related): https://files.catbox.moe/3q0n6e.txt

>>8272697
That's a nice gen anon! Good composition for the shot/reverse shot. Did you set that up somehow or get lucky?
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>>8272712
100 buzz has been added to your account
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>>8272711
yeah I do get text quite a lot too
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>>8271280
>controlnet and kohya deep shrink
fuck I need to check if this works correctly later. thanks for the heads up, anon.
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>>8272700
who is this spooky lady...
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>>8272718
its literally the only good poster left in these threads, thats who
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>>8272700
why is this so much better than every other post itt?
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>>8272720
gay
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>>8272718
wife
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love the results, schizo technology extraction came through, enjoy higher fidelity gunslut
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>>8272722
because it's a loli which is not alowed, here, go back to /b
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>>8272725
so fucking based
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>>8272727
that's clearly an adult wife sir
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>>8272725
eeyup. It's kino
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>>8272730
It's a loli, and it's someone else's wife who has been shilling her for years. Which means you are into NTR!!!
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>>8272732
and?
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>>8272716
>using lolifag style to make an adult female
disgusting
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>>8272689
yeah
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>>8272713
This was the txt2img result
https://files.catbox.moe/8cns5v.png
I did some inpaint and sketch to get a better back view
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>>8272735
Making things that don't exist is part of the charm of AI!
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>>8272738
Thanks! Also, another good one! Great job with the clothing and breast squish. That's a nice character design too, is it custom or from something?
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>>8272726
best girl is muse
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>>8272742
damn the sunburn on the dick must hurt, she's evil!
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>>8272330
What's after captioning?
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do jaguars still meow
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>>8272746
the slopocalypse
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>>8272747
they purr
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>>8272746
Complete failure
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>>8272330
what model is this for? I'm not into discord drama
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>>8272746
total gooknai and chinknai death
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Ideas for a 1girl sex acts wildcard? So far I've got:

1girl, 1boy, fellatio, :>= , excessive cum, throat bulge,
1girl, 1boy, pov penis, erect penis, male masturbation, motion blur, projectile cum,
1girl, spread pussy, excessive pussy juice,
1girl, fingering, squirting, excessive pussy juice, motion lines, motion blur, orgasm,
1girl, dildo, vaginal object insertion, excessive pussy juice, motion lines, motion blur, orgasm,
1girl, vibrator, hitachi magic wand, excessive pussy juice, motion lines, motion blur, orgasm,

>>8272747
That's a very clean gen! Good details and good hand. Which model is that?
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>8272756
now you're being a little too obvious
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>>8272754
Pony v7, the future NAI killer
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>>8272758
ah ok cool.
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it's fried
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ok im done
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>>8272761
>>8272762
why is it so blurry?
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>>8272763
>>8272765
it's noob
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>>8272765
pure m-da s-tarou is a little easy to fry
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>>8272765
the artist draws it blurry
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>>8272764
i can hear your unet screaming in agony bro turn down the CFG
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>>8272769
its cfg 2 ;u;
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>>8272770
cut that down to 1.5 or stop using snakeoil
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>>8272770
ah, deepfried in snakeoil i see
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>>8272772
>>8272773
what else would i use if not snake oil?
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>>8272775
box?
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>>8272775
wow is that heckin miku??? Can't wait for wholesome chungus touhou gens
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>>8272774
euler, 5 cfg, sgm uni
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>>8272778
hope they'll make a tiktok from your suicide zoomie
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>>8272769
>>8272774
Isn't that the style of the m-da s-tarou? His stuff kinda always look like that (though you could probably lower it to 1.5-1.7-ish)
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https://files.catbox.moe/j7iew3.png
Anyone have suggestions for less well known (faux) traditional media/painterly artists?
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>>8272782
Nyantcha?
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What CFG do you guys use for Noob?

p.s ignore the faces....
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>>8272779
>>8272781
yeah it's m-da. I guess it's less fried?
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>>8272782
What model are you using? There's a collection of LORAs at https://civitai.com/models/264290?modelVersionId=882225 that cover a ton of different traditional styled looks, but unfortunately it's PonyXL based.
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>>8272787
Yeah that looks a bit better. His style always has that kinda "fried" look so I don't think you're settings are to blame.
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>>8272786
Assuming you're using the latest version (eps-pred 0.5) it seems to work best at 1.5 CFG with CFG++ samplers or 5 CFG with normal CFG samplers
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>>8272787
schizo or not, a few people here will call anything with high contrast fried. detail wise i dont really see anything fried about them
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did someone mention 2hu
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>>8272782
asakuraf
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>>8272782
alphonse (white datura), solipsist
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>>8272454
Can I get a catbox from one of them pls?
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>>8272792
cheers love, yeah that's the model I'm using.
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are there any good tools for background removal?
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>>8272792
>5 cfg
you must really hate colors
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>>8272803
What do you recommend
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>>8272802
NovelAI
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kys shill
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>>8272782
sanuki_(kyoudashya)
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>>8272803
Nope
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>>8272804
euler a 7cfg for life. bump it up or down by 1 if a certain mix needs more or less color
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>>8272776
https://files.catbox.moe/u6zhwh.png
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>>8272804
7-6 or APG, the only time you'd want to use 5 cfg is if you're using a naturally fried model like the vpred one or a dogshit prodigy lora
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>>8272802
Yeah, are you using A1111 or one of it's variants like Forge or ReForge? If you go to the Extensions tab, click "Available" and the click the "Load From" button, you'll get a list of available extensions. There's a ton that do all kinds of things, and at least a few that can change or remove backgrounds. If you Ctrl+F search for "background" you'll find them, the most highly starred one is "stable-diffusion-webui-rembg" which is simple to use but doesn't have any other features other than removing background.
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>>8272811
thanks, very nice looking style
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>>8272812
>>8272810
ok yeah good I was using 7 too
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>>8272630
>no (huge testicles, hairy male, veiny penis, muscular male, hairy testicles, excessive pubic hair)
gay
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Seems like NAI provides a lot better results the more specificity is added to the prompt, including not just the artist but also camera angles and backgrounds and such.

>>8272811
Nicely done! That turned out very well. Can I ask how much editing you usually do for your gens?
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>>8272825
absolute perfection
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>>8272822
That's the case for every danbooru trained model. dogshit art doesn't get a lot tags while good art schizos will tag the hair color of 1 pixel in the background
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adetailer smudges faces no matter my settings, I'm gonna go fucking schizo
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>>8272825
put a dildo on top and make her ride it from that angle, bonus points if we can only see the silhouette because of her costume
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>>8272819
Sorry....
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>>8272814
lol one third of that dataset is ponyslop, rest is naislop, fingers turns out even more consistent than with autism
>>8272822
not much, just slopping until something good is dropped, if image easy fixable I could go for inpaint, like this one https://files.catbox.moe/oele12.png and fixed hand version https://files.catbox.moe/u4zj5a.png maybe fingers are still a mess, but whatever
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>>8272826
i decided this needed some enhancement, gnight fags
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Man, randomizing things in a gen can get some weird results.
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I updated Reforge for vpred, but I don't see the “Enable Advanced Model Sampling” checkbox. What else do I need to do to get it?
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>>8272841
good show old man
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>>8272740
She's Kadia, a dragon girl I did a while back on /d/ and /e/ liked it too so I figure I could post her here
And I finally have her back, this is the original design
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>>8272845
Neat to hear. And really impressive eyes for her in your gens! How did you get them so clear? And how did you do the eye colors? That's a really unique look!
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genned too many hebes now my dick hurts again
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>>8272851
You're using mix or original? If mix, what's your fav artist mix?
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Testing heavier weights on tags has interesting results sometimes.
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yet another day of praying for nai3 to leak
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>>8272831
might be too specific for nai without a gorillion years of inpainting, seems like it always wants to show dildo in front of clothes rather than under
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>>8272870
Bro, I think somebody might be stalking your wife...
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im ready to become the most popular genner on civitai
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>>8272873
Really great expression there anon! Really impressed with how good you get all your expressions to turn out.
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>>8272871
its just fellow spooky entities
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>>8272624
catbox?
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>>8272874
if you really want to do this then you need to get rid of that background. make it be a pirate ship or the inside of the death star. the image's color scheme needs to be pink and purple with backlighting and consider adding a sign that says "need buzz for flux training"
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>>8272887
https://files.catbox.moe/f79kdu.png

The prompt was just footonanother or something, I was testing the ranbooru extension and only got that prompt lol
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>>8272247
>>8272454
can i get right catbox for both?

>>8272306
box?

>>8272494
can i get the asura box?


holy slop btw https://civitai.com/models/868661/spatterxl-illustriousxl-ponyxl?modelVersionId=980730
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>>8272240
https://files.catbox.moe/lvyckr.png
Did a little bit of inpaint before upscale but basically the same set of tags for t2i
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>>8272465
So everyone is just making their own UI for these? I def want to train my own voices to talk to.
And not integrated into silly tavern or whatever api yet?


>>8272330
How different is it going to be?
Like PONY already peaked, how can it improve from perfection?
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>>8272890
You're right, I fixed it!
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>>8272901
Pony is NOWHERE close to peak lol

You sound like the SDXL makers who said SD3 will be the last ever model needed because it won't be able to be improved more lol
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>>8272902
try adding darth vader or a cgi cat and you've for sure got a civitai trending image
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>>8272902
You also need to turn it into a shitty animated gif.
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>>8272796
Box?
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>>8272812
could u share a gen that u used apg with? do you just use default settings besides scale?
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Sadako is tired of haunting people, poor girl
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>>8272919
she gets 7 days off the job for 1 day on, I don't see the problem
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>>8272831
one gorillian years later

bonus album of gen attempts:
https://catbox.moe
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...Sadako is suffering from boob envy?
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>>8272925
made for yuri
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First two are doras with norm layers, last two are finetune extracts. The doras look very blurry on Noob 0.5, even though they look alright on base Illust and SmoothFT, but the later epochs of the finetune extract ruins character replication even without any artist in the tags.
Fullres: https://files.catbox.moe/flknlp.png
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>>8272931
noob/.5eps do not have very good compatibility with things trained on base illustrious.
it absolutely works but it's usually less saturated and a bit wonky compared to training directly on noob.
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>>8272931
Such an awful waste of time for blurry garbage when half of these have working artist tags that works fine.
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>>8272933
I was originally going to wait for the next vpred release to start training on noob but the forwards compatibility is worse then I expected so I'll probably train my next loras on 0.5.
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>>8272936
what?
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>>8272949
god... imagine the smell...
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>>8272949
why are you like this
have you ever thought about all the wrong life choices that led you to liking little girls' piss?
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>>8272951
she's old enough to get knocked up.
it's fine.
and this is a natural thing for foxes to do, anyway. they use their tail to mark territory and to do that they load it with piss.
if you've ever wanted to もふもふふわふわ a foxgirls tail you've wanted to be covered in their pee. it's how things work.
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i once was with a girl who was smelly
but she wasn't smelly in a good way, her armpits smelled like the one of a man, which really was a turnoff
maybe because she was a virgin? idk
whatever, we didn't fucked that day
and that's how i remain being a virgin
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>>8272941
box
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>>8272943
For example, why train henreader when you can already get this with the artist tag?
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>>8272959
I look like this
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>>8272958
hey, box?
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>>8272960
Can I fuck you?
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>>8272959
Certain styles, like Henreader, were quite close but underbaked on Illust. Some of those styles may have been strengthed on Noob but the original lora predates it.
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Any way to make reForge not load any model on startup, and to completely unload it on command? I mostly use it for NAI through the extension so I don't need to have a local model loaded most of the time, in fact I want the webui running in the background so I can get to it at a moment's notice and having a model loaded at all times means I have to close it every time I launch a game lest I get OOMs and general instability.
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>>8272964
On forge there is a way to load without model (I think I just removed everything from ckpt folder and disabled auto 1.5 download) but it seems like it needs at least some checkpoint loaded to work. I ended up sticking a 1.5 model which is a lot less memory-intensive than xl. It's possible that you could get away with even using some placeholder like a small lora but I actually didn't try that.
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>>8272963
Sure, but you really should start doing comparisons at a higher resolution since all of your examples are blurry even in the catbox. Comparisons between blurry 1 and blurry 2 are borderline useless for fine-details, which is probably why you would even train a lora to begin with.
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>>8272967
This was mostly a test to showcase the lower quality on noob 0.5 across the board and most notably the ruined character recognition and lowered saturation on most styles for the latest epoch of the finetune extract instead of showcasing the actual style replication compared to the base model. Running hires fix would've doubled the time for limited gain of what I actually wanted to showcase.
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>>8272951
God where are ya'll pussies come from? Half of REM's in semiconductor appliances, including the one you're typing from are supplied by "grey" outsource aka slave labour yet nobody bats an eyelid, but a neuroslopped loli, holy shit, now that's worthy of being pissed about!
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https://files.catbox.moe/dl9nsy.png
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>>8272973
Based, but can you make her more mischievous then embarrassed? Like it's intentional instead of an accident
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>>8272972
this is all just cope and your speculations about stuff you have no actual idea about.
meanwhile here I can immediately see that I share a board with a dude who jacks off to little girls wetting themselves. wtf? what difference does it make if its ai if the attraction itself is fucking sick? seek christ at this point
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>>8272975
>fofo
>mischievous
nigga what
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>>8272961
hey, https://litter.catbox.moe/7sk6bm.png
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Want to make animal crossing lewd, any good model for that?
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>>8272983
pony diffusion v6 with the animal crossing lora
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>>8272977
>this is all just cope and your speculations about stuff you have no actual idea about.
Deflection and ad hominem in the same sentence. You're right about the cope part, although via projecting.
>meanwhile here I can immediately see that I share a board with a dude who jacks off to little girls wetting themselves. wtf? what difference does it make if its ai if the attraction itself is fucking sick? seek christ at this point
Lol, did someone chain you up to a monitor? You can waste your own time on better things. Come on big boy, prove you're better then some sorry-ass pedos.
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>>8272984
Not the same guy but what is lora?
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>>8272986
When you put your dick in the computer
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OUR wife
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>>8272979
The face expression, nigga. She looked too embarrassed about natural things.
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>>8272988
you can't just post that and not also post nero
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>>8272985
nobody warned me either and this isn't the place for this shit. go to some fetishist community if you really can't resist your urges. why are you defending this crap anyway? you like little girl piss too?
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>>8272928
Hasshaku-sama will take good care of Sadako
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Saw a Yu Gi Oh girl being posted in another thread and I wanted in on the action so here we are
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>>8272984
>pony diffusion v6
Thanks
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>>8272931
How does it look on base illust though?
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Everything is quiet... Too quiet. Wish noob team would throw us meager westerners an extra bone once n' a while and give some timeline on their expected next model drop.
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>>8272995
There were some tests in previous threads >>8268746 but I plan to do another test with hires fix some time later.
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>>8272996
We already have the max time, pretty easy to extrapolate when the next models are gonna be between now and then anon
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Save your cum until noob's next release
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a LoRA vacuum has been created now that everyone is moving onto illustrious... willing to take suggestions on what to train next. not taking any loli artist suggestions....
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>>8273001
just ask on reddit/civitai? you'll get your mommy milker lovers requesting slop in no time
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>>8272395
catbox seems to be out. I forget, what's the alternative?
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>>8273001
If willing to go down /aco/ shithole, tim bradstreet lora.

If not, Sui Ishida style lora based off his covers and colored illustrations would be cool.
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>>8273001
momozu komamochi please, thanks
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>>8273006
>linkle
I'm going to need a catbox to confirm that.
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Saw this girl getting posted on pixiv. Watched the first ep of this over a decade ago because I liked the design of the main girl (Corticarte Apa Lagranges), but I never got beyond the first ep because it seemed pretty boring. Anyone here that has watched it and can say otherwise?
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>>8273007
Uh.. n-no u.
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>>8273010
MODS THIS ANON IS A GAY HOMOSEXUAL FAGGOT
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>>8273006
Looks /aco/ as fuck, also gay
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>>8273001
what artist is that?
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>>8273011
You see, anon, I would prove it's Linkle but catbox is down. >>8273003 Darn.
>>8273012
So it's source? Fantastic.
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>>8273015
I just checked and wouldn't you know it. Litterbox is still up!
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>>8272998
I was actually asking for a dora/extract comparison, but fine I'll wait.
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>>8272991
>nobody warned me either and this isn't the place for this shit.
This place is for discussion of AI models/outputs of non-western style and erotic focus. His work fits the bill. Your rant doesn't. Neither does mine, however.
>go to some fetishist community if you really can't resist your urges.
If you can't change your outlook, change your surroundings. Any proper schizophrenic thinks he's the sane one in asylum full of loonies.
>why are you defending this crap anyway? you like little girl piss too?
I've seen way worse shit being done to real, thinking, feeling people before my own eyes. And nobody tried to object and argue. Everyone just did their job. A lonely guy having his own fun and posting catboxed lolis isn't even as remotely evil as you think. 1st world problems...
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>>8272836
That's actually at least 3 times hotter
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>>8271264
I have a Radeon 6800XT, can I really use it to gen some lewds? Seems like everything I try just to install it its a mess
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>>8273023
Doesn't a 6800Xt have 16 VRAM? That's more than enough
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>>8273023
you can but rocm (AMD's AI architecture) isnt available for Windows and youll need to use Linux.
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>>8273023
You can, but setting it up is a pain in the ass, unless something has changed, also amd gpus suck donkey dick when it comes to ai-related stuff in general.
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>>8273023
anything SD related seems to be really allergic to AMD GPUs... you could probably get things working if go through enough trouble, but I couldn't tell you what you'd need to do because I have an Nvidia GPU and it 'just works'.
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>>8272993
>worst zexle girl
Bro...
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>>8273023
in the last thread someone reported he's got comfyui working on 6650 xt
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people saying Noob has worse anatomy and sex capability than pony have massive skill issue
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>>8272895
thx
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>>8273030
Elaborate? I want to try noob but I won't be able to handle bad hands again
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>>8273030
example please
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>>8273032
I don't have any issues with hands other than usual shit
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>>8273030
Give me a slime girl fucking herself on a knotted dildo sex-machine while also having her breasts milked by disembodied hands then.
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>>8273032
>>8273032
When I started testing stuff with my pose wildcards things were fucked, like 10% success rate or so but after prompting some artist into it im at like 95% which never happened on pony AND the pose are not fried
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>>8273023
6800xt user here. Setting up comfy with Rocm is managble on linux. Other UIs also have started to add support/install instructions or got forks that might work. Haven't tried those yet. There's also Zluda for windows, but was a pain and was too stupid to set it up when I last tried it a few months ago.
Speed is much slower than nvdia cause stuff like xformers is missing by default. There's projects to rewrite those, so you could try using those, not sure how well they work.
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>>8273028
You're not about to tell me that the catgirl is better
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>>8271295
>>8272381
anyone?
please
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>>8273040
kys
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>>8273039
Anna, Rio and Droite
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>>8273045
Nah Kotori definitely mogs all of them as well
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What does he see?
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>>8273048
grey bar sisters... we got exposed
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>>8273048
he discovered the Grey Bar Enigma... local is saved...
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>>8272421
That's so good, I love it!
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We should put human eyes+brain in a jar and use it as a preprocessor/feature extractor
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>>8273048
Wait, can someone ask him for an example?
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>>8273048
Has anybody ever confronted him directly about his extreme autism?
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>>8273047
Bro...
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>>8273053
>die
>donate organs to science & technology in will
>forced to look at hentai & identify features for coomers for the rest of eternity
Its very dystopian, I like it
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>>8273057
>forced to look at hentai
Could be worse, imagine looking at furry shit for all eternity
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>>8272975
not putting effort into it but that's entirely the incorrect pose/setting for that kind of expression.
what you want fits more something like this
https://litter.catbox.moe/sypg53.png
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>>8273059
Why is she so old?
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>>8273048
its really sad to see that Jordach new best friend is Claude now that tree is gone... he has gone full schizo sadly...
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>>8273062
cause it's been a long time since she was born. The time is what allowed that pussy to know the shape of cock so perfectly.
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>>8273059
I almost cant recognize the miqomix stench
take that as a compliment
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>>8272741
delete this
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>>8273001
Lovely shower scene. Girl's name?
>>8272993
Oh fuck yeah, Microkinis
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>8272647
>slash as escapechar
youre doing it wrong
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>>8273066
why is there a guy in the sky
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"Oh fuck yes," she sighs, as she slides her hot, moist flesh along the length of her son's cock. Her pussy is slick and slippery, and she begins to bounce up and down, riding him. "Oh fuck me, my son, that's it, fuck me, you gorgeous, beautiful man..."
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>>8273071
He sensed himself being cucked so he grew wings and took flight and is about to beat the other guy's ass. That's why the guy getting his dick sucked looks so shocked.
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>>8273072
I thought we agreed you would never come back.

>>8273071
He's there to watch, I guess.
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>>8273072
please do one where the son has spiky hair and is named derrick
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>catbox proper is kill
despair.
https://litter.catbox.moe/01roqs.png
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Will we be getting the finished model too or is the 0.5 beta all we get for local use?
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>>8273077
Maybe take that as a hint.
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>>8273078
Yes
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>>8273076
>lease do one where the son has spiky hair and is named derrick
Derrick turns around towards the noise entering his room, and to his shock, it is his mother. Her black hair, tied into a bun, wearing a pearl necklace and glasses. His mother is completely naked and wet from the waist down.
"Mom! What the hell!?" He exclaimed, his voice cracking.
"I saw the AI porn of you and me having sex." His mother says, a hint of arousal in her tone. Her eyes were sparkling, the moonlight glimmering in her eyes. "The pictures of you and me making out...having sex...is what what you wanted to do with me?"
She gets close to him, rubbing his crotch with her hand. "You want to try out those positions we did in those pictures?"
His heart skips a beat, his mouth hanging open. She runs her hands through his spiky hair, her eyes glowing bright with passion. "Mom...what about dad?"
"He hasn't touched me in years." His mother responds. "He's not here. You are." She unbuckles his belt and undoes his pants. She slips her fingers into his boxers, feeling his warm, hard cock.
"I can't believe this is happening." He says as she starts to stroke his cock.
"It is baby." She replies, stroking him harder. "Your mom's gonna make you feel so good."She pushes him onto the bed, straddling him. He watches in amazement as she positions her pussy over his dick and slides herself on top of it. He gasps, the sensation of her pussy being even more intense than he thought it would be. With no condom blocking the way, her cunt feels warm and inviting. She slowly grinds on him, her hands pressed against his chest. He lets out a deep breath as her pussy envelops his cock."Oh yeah, that's it Derrick." She says. "Let mommy ride your big dick."
She grinds faster, her tits bouncing as she bounces up and down. "Mommy wants to take your v-card." She says, her face turning red. "She wants you to fill her up with cum. Please baby. Don't hold back. Give mommy everything you have."
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erm
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>>8273081
Neck yourself, familia
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>>8273081
claude?
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>>8273077
sadly it can't do proper peeing through clothes like pantyhose
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>>8272794
>>8272818
>>8272921
good stuff, anon
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What artists are really good at drawing eyes?
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>>8273048
he's right about this, if you do higher resolutions it can sometimes spawn grey bars on the sides and bottom on both pony and illust
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>>8273079
断る。
>>8273087
anon I know what you're doing and this is the limit of effort you'll get out of me.
https://litter.catbox.moe/3nxzsy.png
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>>8273093
rai (sakuranbo sugar)
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>>8273098
>I know what you're doing
not really, it wasn't thinly veiled request, but thanks anyway
i meant that combining peeing and pantyhose makes stream shooting thru instead of dripping
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Is there any go to upscaler model these days for /h/ content?
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>>8273054
look at the bottom of this image >>8272873
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>>8273105
So if his model manages to fix that it'll be better than noob, illu and nai?
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>>8273106
nai doesn't have this problem and he won't fix shit
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jordach is probably suicidal
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>>8273103
you can still do that. it's a bit rng but realistically the slow drip through is what actually happens in the real world. Pushing liquid through multiple layers of clothing isn't actually a fast enough process for a reliable stream(unless wearing very intentionally sheer material), almost as if they're acting as a direct filter(who knew). it'll also probably be better off with subject standing than other positions.
https://litter.catbox.moe/2syt2y.png
the bigger issue is dealing with wet clothes rng(which I'm not going to deal with)
>>8272794
>>8273092
also here's a cleaner version of sekibanki(now with a white background)
https://litter.catbox.moe/0x9pe2.png
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>>8273075
Box?
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>>8273114
is this website like catbox? seems to remove metadata though
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>>8271264
is this hinto lora available?
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>>8273119
its a jpg dummy
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retard here
i just updated reforge, can i get the qrd on what agp for cfg and rescalecfg are and when / how to use them?
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>>8273123
unironically just ignore/disable
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>>8273114
metadata please? nice image
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>>8273001
Millefeuille or Wamuudraws, since the lora on civitai doesn't look like him at all
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>>8273127
it's nai, inpainted
not for you, chuddie
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>>8272925
Carbox, pls. I tried something similar and could not get the tv right
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>>
MLK's Dream
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>>8271280
I tried that workflow and just get a bunch of "warning control could not be applied" in the console. Are you really sure it's working? I'm not even sure how having jankhidiffusion installed helps when nothing in your workflow is enabled using it.
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>>8273129
aw man
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>>8273136
Oh, nevermind, I just swapped the bypass state of the kohya and raunet nodes. Not sure why it wasn't like that in your workflow though.
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>>8273137
so we back in the mine
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>>8273037
Care to share some examples?
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>>8273117
https://litter.catbox.moe/jlxdfn.png

catbox is gone forever, we must cherish what we had.
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>>8272852
i change every day, right now it's
>ke-ta kawakami rokkaku ciloranko, watercolor traditional media, (lowres worst quality:-1.0)

and a very basic neg of
>lowres worst quality, claws animal hands, simple background

the negpip lowres makes quite a difference
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>>8273060
Yeah, exactly as intended, thanks
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>>8272852
i'm using smoothft SPO, noob kinda looks like ass
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>>8273146
switched to pony today, i just can't take those trash new models anymore
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pony has yet to be dethroned not to mention all the amazing civit loras
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>ponytrannies are getting uppity again
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Forgot to fix the navel.
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>>8273153
still makes the best anatomy
those sexy feminine figures with wide hips and thick thighs are unmatched!
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>>8273146
>>8273150
Skill issue desu, Noob is amazing with the right settings, or in the very least, miles above pony
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What tag i should use to get scene like this? Breast pulling?
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I would rather have the pedo argument.
Pedos are gay, women should be hourglass-shaped, not box-shaped
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>>8273161
boxo?
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Any artists to add decent realistic skin textures to noob? I'm looking for something like pija or healthyman but the aritst tags aren't great
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>>8273167
https://litter.catbox.moe/m3yecm.png
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So apparently noobai can write Japanese.
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>>8273168
maybe try some Korean artist? they usually love going 2.5d
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that wasnt an invitation to reply to yourself mr shitposter
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>>8273168
kase daiki?
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>>8273172
>>8273173
Translate it JOPs.
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>>8273175
>>8273182
thanks, ill check them out
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>>8273168
naruko hanaharu
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>>8273183
>translate gibberish
no I don't think so
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>>8273143
wait what are you serious
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>>8273196
Yes, my uncle works at catbox
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>>8273196
I'm not serious it's gone forever, but better prepare for the worst and then be positively surprised.
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>literally fapgenning to penis in pussy close-ups
terminal brainrot
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>>8273209
better than me with kiss close up
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>>8273212
She should be licking it with a similar expression.
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https://huggingface.co/Laxhar/noob_sdxl_beta
Are any of these a newer version of zpred or are we not seeing any zpred models until they completely finish eps?
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>>8273217
nah that's based
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a billion fucking models released today, including the sd3 8b
>>>/g/102925676
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>>8273232
can it do hentai though
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>>8273232
Can it do /h/?
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>>8273232
>>102925761
heh at least they know, that's a good sign, but does it mean they abandoned their goals to "clean it up" for commercial use?
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>>8273232
holy kek, naiggers in shambles. kurumuz must be seething rn seeing a proper model architecture
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>>8273232
Gee, how come mom lets you have 3 text encoders
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>EPIC and Tony are now talking with each other
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>>8271423
catbox pls
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>>8273232
demo
https://replicate.com/stability-ai/stable-diffusion-3.5-large
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>>8273250
synthetic slop all the way down
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>>8273250
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>>8273254
Holy slopperino
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>>8273250
it's clearly better than sd3 but doesn't seem better than flux to me, and it's certainly inferior to google's imagen 3 (which is obviously censored, but still)
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>>8273254
Makes me want to vomit, what the fuck are they training this shit on?
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>all the NAI gens
fuck
off
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>>8273256
it might be trainable tho
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>>8273254
why does it look like aom2?
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>>8273254
looks like pony out of the box
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>>8273250
Damn bros
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>>8273236
it's unironically better than pony at /h/
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>>8273260
trained on pony
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>>8273254
Someone notify Astralite... it's not too late to steer the ship towards this
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>>8273267
its over kurumuz, sorry
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>>8273259
if sdxls 2 text encoders wasnt bad enough, now you have 3 of them to worry about
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>>8273250
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>>8273267
how many text encoders does nai have?
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>every new model is uglier than the last, being fed synthetic slop over and over
artists were right kek
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>>8273267
wannabe janny on suicide watch kek
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>>8273250
uuhhh it's unironically good??
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>>8273277
Pony WON
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uuugh imagine paying to slop ugly 3dpds
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>>8273280
Anon, put on your glasses, please
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>>8273259
I think that's the only way they can get any community back,.
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>>8273280
That's a man
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>>8273284
For a base model it's incredibly good
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>>8273284
I assume he means good for a base model, of course it's garbage compared to proper models.
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>>8273232
16ch vae?
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KEK
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>>8273295
yes
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>>8273297
me on the left
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this means astralite will probably train on sd3.5 after all! ponysisters, we won...
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>>8273301
nice, we won
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Captain I...
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>>8273303
hopefully he does so we can learn from the disgusting slop he creates
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>>8273262
impressive of course
but can it do pussy?
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>>8273232
How hard is that thing to run? Flux already has garbage performance for most.
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>>8273306
cope
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>>8273307
>but can it do pussy?
No
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>>8273310
I was gonna ask how are hands but kek
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they should have named it sdxxl
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>>8273309
about what?
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>>8273265
Box pls
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if it can't put benis in bagina then it's not /h/ and you should keep it to /g/
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>>8273301
we are so fucking back
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>>8273310
at least it somewhat knows gigachad chest
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>>8273254
>>8273262
>>8273273
>>8273275
>>8273280
>>8273297
>>8273310
Why does it looks so fucking melted and smudged if it's using a 16ch vae?
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>illu in cope mode, shit anatomy
>noob is trash
>NAI is for paycucks
yeah, Pony WON bigly
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Man, back when v3 released almost a year ago I honestly had no idea how prolonged and thorough the mindbreak would be.
I shitposted along with some schizos because it was fun and never even bothered buying this shit myself. Fast forward a year and you fags literally can't stop obsessing over it while anal-tan has done literally nothing during all this time. I don't even see anyone posting NAI gens or shilling it. It really is a fucking mindbreak.
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>>8273320
it's sai
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>>8273314
if you have the extension the metadata is there
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>>8273320
it's dpo
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>>8273320
because
1. 16ch vae is overhyped and half of the people screeching about it don't understand the rest of the model has to be good for it to have an improvement
2. it's sai
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>>8273323
catbox?
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Discipline is very important for education.
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Any advice on genning good android girls on local? I can't get solid colored eyes or metalic looking skin
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That's it, I'm switching to train sd3.5 loras
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>>8273328
it's sd 3.5
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>>8273328
It's inpainted
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>>8273328
it's illustrious 2.0
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>>8273336
why does she have 13 fingers?
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>>8273338
it's noob
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>>8273338
it's sdxl
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>>8273338
it's pony
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>>8273338
better handjobs
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>>8273338
it's 3.5
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>>8273332
find some artists that do the things you want to gen and mix them
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>>8273338
it's nai
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IT'S STABILITY AI
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>>8273345
I like the style, what artist tags are you using?
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>>8273310
Mother fucking Goro in the house
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>>8273338
>>8273340
>it's noob
>>8273342
>it's sdxl
>>8273343
>it's pony
>>8273346
>it's 3.5
>>8273348
>it's nai

One of this is right
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>>8273345
>>8273350
lol
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>>8273332
Check the booru wiki there's a bunch of robot tags for it. Cyberpunk probably helps then do like colored skin stuff
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>>8273353
it's reindeer diffusion v7
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>>8273353
if the riddle is that only one of those can be right then the answer would have to be 3.5
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>>8273357
Almost
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>>8273353
well it's not 3.5 since it can't do pussies, and it's not pony since there's mild glow effects, so I choose to believe it's noob. but noob is sdxl, so that would technically be two of them...
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What's the best way to autotag image sets nowadays? What program?
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not noob
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>>8273361
BDTM
kohya
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slop
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It is melting?
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pony with saimin seishidou lora
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>>8273365
anatomy so good that it must be pony
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>>8273363
>no gui
It's over for me.
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>>8273332
you need a lora for it, none of the tags are accurate enough, ganbatte anon
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i almost think yoinked is more obnoxious than epic and tony desu
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>>8273373
Sometimes he's smart, sometimes he's dumb as bricks
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>>8273370
pretty sure kohya's tagger is just a script
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That discord is just soulless compared to jordachs
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>>8273373
nah epic and tony are infinitely worse.
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>>8273377
they are worse but at least they don't have a massive ego and call themselves """ai researchers""" despite having done nothing of value ever
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>>8273378
I trained some loras with ez scripts, does that make me a researcher?
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>>8273379
If you tweaked some params - you're more of a researcher than those turds
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>>8273232
What other models were released?
>>
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How do you train for a character that has only around 50 pics of questionable quality?
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>>8273385
Commission more pics
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>>8273382
NTA Alegro(video model) and omnigen and Emu3 which are image models
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>>8273386
Do you think I'd be using AI if I had the money for that?
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>>8273385
do they have a 3d model? i've found that you only need at most 10%-15% of the dataset to actually be 2d art to completely negate any style burn in on illustrious and i think the number might be lower or even 0 on noob but i haven't experimented with it at all yet
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>>8273391
No, sadly.
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Reforge is shitting itself? every time i want to activate noob it overflows my whole RAM
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>>8273385
you can train a character with 10 pics of reasonable quality
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i thought reforge has sd3 support?
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>>8273397
How?
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>>8273400
easily
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>>8273402
How?
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>>8273385
>>8273397
this I dont know why people think you need 30+ images to train a character lora for SDXL (pony or illustrious) you can manage to make a good character lora with about 6 images (assuming their high quality and in different styles)
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>>8273404
Just bee yourself
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WARNING v_parameterization should be with v2 not v1 or sdxl
why does kohya sd scripts throw this warning when training vpred loras? the loras work perfectly fine
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>>8273404
just train a lora bro
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Does anyone use SD.Next?
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CstaberXL when
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>>8273407
because nobody bothered to push a commit to fix it, vpred was going to be implemented in SD2.0 but SAI didn't go with it because they're retarded. it works with the entire sd model family xl and below
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>>8272205
/ddg/ has had better gens than that, including animations.
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>>8273416
lol
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>>8273416
ddg blessed by Ani, he is one of the few who pushes animation tech forward
hdg is forever doomed to stagnate
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>>8273394
Ok you have my attention
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>>8273421
what? ani has been doing much cooler stuff for a year already
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>>8273423
I just got back into genning after a year or so, so my standards are pretty low
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>>8273394
nice, what model did you use for this one?
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now that you've shilled your dogshit SAI garbage can you go back to /g/?
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>>8273419
>>8273423
i legitimately can't tell if this is a shitposter ironically making fun of that avatarfag or one of the dicksuckers of said avatarfag and that makes it infinitely funnier
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>>8273413
ah i see. thanks for the info
>vpred was going to be implemented in SD2.0 but SAI didn't go with it because they're retarded
that's a shame
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>>8273428
its actually him (fizzledorf aka julien). he comes by now and then to shill his shitty sai tech
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>>8273419
>Ani, he is one of the few who pushes animation tech forward
His shitty animations of cat girls awkwardly morphing in and out of various poses?
>>8273416
Where? I just went through the last several threads and the most recent I found was from late September, which was made with Kling. And also looks like shit. >>>/d/11129910
If there genuinely is better I'd be interested to see. But even the one posted here looked better without the AI "enhancement" (img2img) pass and instead just raw animation.
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i did it, sorta
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>>8273444
you can try to use pochincoff style too
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>>8273445
I'm using pochincoff + kionant
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>>8273447
Eh, that doesn't really look like pochincoff...
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>>8273450
kionant's style is pretty overpowering but you can definitely see the pochincoff in the face
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>>8273404
i'm going to assume it isnt bait
https://litter.catbox.moe/auohuo.toml

use this template, tag your characters as normal, for multiple outfits you want each folder to have roughly the same amount of images*repeats
you should aim to have 300-450 steps per folder/outfit in total
so a folder with 10 images and 4 repeats should be 10 epochs
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Tips on how I can improve?
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>>8273455
Her right arm is completely fucked
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>>8273457
Tunnel vision at its finest. I didn't even notice that. Besides the anatomy lesson I'm over do for, anything else that's shit about my gen?
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AAAAAAAAA HELP!11!

THIS LITTLE WHORE IS JERKING ME OFF AT LIGHT SPEED I CAN'T DODGE HER!!
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>>8273452
Thanks anon. It wasn't bait.
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>>8273462
kek
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why is the janny deleting so many /h/ posts
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>>8273467
Where?
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>>8273469
alright im back on team jordach
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>>8273469
faith in jordach restored
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>>8273461
Same with her, lower torso/ass? Looks pretty weird, I think you're supposed to see more of it from that point of view. Probably won't be that easy to fix tho.
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>>8273469
holy based
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>>8273469
>extreme mental illness
>cunnytard
Checks out.
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>>8273469
redemption arc
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>>8273464
you're welcome! always happy to help
another thing I forget to mention is that the config is for 24gb vram cards
you can lower the batch size to as low as 2 if you're low on vram
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>>8273475
Now that you mention it, it is a weird angle.
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>>8273469
rare based moment
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So if Jordach's model is shit will that prove that including cunny makes a bad model?
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>>8273484
What are the downsides to lowering batch size, beyond it taking longer to complete?
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>>8273498
NAI has already proved it
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This is some fine shit you showed me, pixelart anon. Really happy with how easy it is to make some PC98 age porn.
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>>8273423
>>8273421
>>8273394
nai users & ani-dono do things cooler than this every minutes, sometime seconds
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>>8273498
that's a formal logical fallacy bro
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>>8273453
This is a starting to lean a bit /trash/ but also very cool, box?
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>>8273501
illu too. pony reigns supreme
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>>8273426
it was flux + Pony edit fixing then Kling

because no offense but faggots sticking to just one tool are just bad at AI
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>>8273510
Is loli removal really the reason why pony is so much better than NAI and Noob with anatomy?
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*bait*
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>>8273513
please stop this bait stopped being funny 7 months ago
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>>8273516
doesnt matter, im still going to samefag reply to it like its not bait
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>>8273500
in my testing on pony/illustrious its actually better to lower the batch size, 2 being the minimum, it tends to learn little details *slightly* better.I tend to default to 8 (on a 3090) and if I find the lora didnt catch the small stuff, I redo it at a batch size of 2 and it usually works.
I'm just super lazy and impatient thats why i dont start off with batch size 2
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>>8273512
So you are saying that Nai is the best right ?
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>>8273519
>>8273516
kys shills
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>>8273518
bs 1 or 2 is the correct answer like 99% of the time
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Why is it so blurry
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it's pony
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>>8273518
>Kurosaki-kun...
>kUrOsAkI-kUn... kUrOsAkI-kUn... kUrOsAkI-kUn...
>kurosaki-kun...k u ro sa ki-kun.... kuro sa ki k u n
>01010100 01110101 01110010 01101111 01110011 01100001 01101011 01101001 00100000 01101011 01110101 01101110
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>>8273508
I'm using a few custom LoRAs that I never intend on releasing so nope, sorry.
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>>8273527
When Anon chatbot with Inoue
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>>8273394
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>>8273527
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejC9_RdV9pk
god fucking damnit
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localbois what upscalers do you use? went to openmodeldb and don't know what to get lmao
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>>8273536
literally only latent
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did anon bang his mom yet?
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>>8273538
i want to know if that one miqote poster ever gave his AI porn to that girl he based it off of
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>>8273541
not so long ago he said that she didn't responded
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>>8273546
damn rip
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>>8273536
literally only remacri. everything else is a meme. latent is a meme that massacres image fidelity.
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>>8273553
How does Remacri work on your side? In my case, it keeps screwing up the background unless I pick a white simple one.
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>>8273536
literally only nomos 8x
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>>8273556
Adjust steps/cfg/denoising
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>>8273553
its been ages since i tried to use non latent upscaler
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Noob keeps turning the black color (especially hair) into some weird shade of green. This doesn't happen with base illu
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>>8273518
Nice style, is this using your own bake? Catbox?
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>>8273452
Does using more epochs instead of more repeats or vice versa lead to different results?
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>>8273580
This may be an issue if you are using the lr scheduler with epoch-based cycles.
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How come /hdg/ never got such a tight-knit, fun community as /sdg/ back in the day? This place is always so hostile and unfun... While /sdg/ made dreams come true and lead to long-term friendships. All you do here is hunt schizos and argue. What made it so different?
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>>8273588
>What made it so different?
We aren't faggots
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>>8273588
this is the gayest picture ive seen on 4chan
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>>8273588
i'll outlive all of them
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>>8273578
using green or blue instead of black is a pretty standard artist trick, it probably just picked up on something in the dataset (for whatever artist you're prompting?)
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>>8273588
If /sdg/ is so good and based, why the fuck do you keep coming here?
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>>8273591
who the fuck are you though
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>>8273588
sorry i'm straight
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>>8273595
do you know what website you are currently on
as a reminder this place is intentionally anonymous
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>>8273595
Prem Akkaraju
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>>8273588
I only recognize cumrag
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>>8273588
Unironically NAI shills.
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>>8273588
what a bunch of massive faggots
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>>8273603
still buck broken by being too retarded to make a working script?
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>>8273603
CF-kyuuuun~ how are you doing today? :3
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>>8273603
not having 25$ to spare is embarrassing anon
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>>8273588
what the fuck? kill it with fire
>>8273603
thank allah for nai shills then
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>>8273606
>>8273609
>>8273610
>>8273611
Case in point.
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why are localjeets so fucking embarrassing? is this how they compensate for inferior models?
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>>8273138
i was getting messages of corrected controlnet sizes even with raunet bypassed
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Kek, naishills are in full force
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>>8273613
kill yourself
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>>8273613
I've never given analtan a cent and I think you need to kill yourself.
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>>8273588
/sdg/ is effectively fucking dead along with those attentionwhores, /hdg/ lives on despite being a schizo shithole. Who cares about muh imaginary internet friends?
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>>8273588
>>8273595
Better to be a nameless nobody than an autistic namefag/avatar troon on an anonymous image board
I feel massive amounts of second hand shame that you'd be proud to be either be one of these people or have formed a fascination for them
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>>8273588
lol
>>8273616
you might have some other custom node patching it then
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Surely there is a way to indicate to the AI that girls are shorter than males without having to resort to loli/child tags, right?
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>>8273625
it said specifically [jankhidiffusion] controlnet resize in the console
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>>8273625
>(You) are here.
No I'm not
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>>8273627
I remember someone saying that you can use larger male for that. Can also try height difference
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>>8273627
large man, small girl, usually works for me.
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>>8273588
>/sdg/
>fun community
/sdg/ has been and is just a bunch of avatarfaggot troons
I came to /hdg/ because I couldn't stand those faggots, and your pic proves how much of a circlejerk it became
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>>8273629
hmm, I see it now. oddly then it didn't work for kohya but it did for raunet.
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>>8273624
>I feel massive amounts of second hand shame that you'd be proud to be either be one of these people or have formed a fascination for them
Why though? What's wrong with being recognizable and having fun together?
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>>8273627
noob has some basic e621 comprehension so you can do smaller female/larger male
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>>8273636
>What's wrong with being recognizable
This is an anonymous imageboard, fuck off to your trannycord
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>>8273636
use discord
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>>8273635
im also getting it with kohya, and kohya is performing a lot better with illustrious checkpoints than RAUnet. maybe i am favored by the machine spirit
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>>8273636
If you can't speak or do something without receiving personalized attention for it, maybe 4chan isn't for you
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>>8273646
okay gramps go get some rest
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>>8273643
Still couldn't get kohya to do consistent gens it just wants to body horror on coin flip.
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>>8273649
even with my workflow exactly?
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>>8273212
damn, thats nice
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>>8273651
that was another anon responding to you. your workflow worked fine for me with raunet. kohya deepshrink in general also works fine for me. I'll look into why later specifically kohya doesn't seem to be getting patched (or gets patched but wrongly).
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>>8273625
we must restore the timeline
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>>8271264
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>>8273625
>NovelAI ad in a timeline picture
This is what I meant, by the way.
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anons, I'm curious what number of steps you use for noobai? And with what sampler, scheduler and CFG scale?
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>>8273659
25, euler a, sgm uniform, 5
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>>8273659
euler a cgf++, usually 25-30 steps, cfg 1.5
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>>8273655
God I can't wait for this auraflow disaster
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>>8273579
Its just an updated whoopsatro lora and the metadata is in the original image

https://mega.nz/folder/27AXgLSS#-ojw0WbGra04b2Aps31HBg

BECAUSE FOR SOME FUCKING REASON DORAS DONT WORK WITH NOOB

>>8273580
just never go above 4 repeats
and adjust your epochs based on that
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>>8273134
Skibidi?
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>>8273668
AHHHHH IM CUMMING
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>>8273667
where are the hairclips
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>>8273660
>>8273661
I usually gen with steps = 26, euler a (normal), CFG=7, but now I've found one artist on danbooru and tried to use his tag. I KINDA worked but meh. I tweaked prompt - still meh.
Then I was like "fuck it steps to 50, why not" - and holy shit - it feels like massive improvement in fine details and vibes of images.
I know 25-30 steps is enough but still...
Of course take it with a grain of salt as it's subjective
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>>8273588
>How come /hdg/ never got such a tight-knit, fun community as /sdg/ back in the day? This place is always so hostile and unfun... While /sdg/ made dreams come true and lead to long-term friendships. All you do here is hunt schizos and argue. What made it so different?
We don't do that in threads, we do that on Civitai and discord desu
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>>8273673
I can't use cfg 7 because it makes everything unbearably bright
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>>8273659
Euler a, 3-5 cfg depending on which artist I'm using, if it's too fried I lower the cfg
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>>8273659
28, euler a cfg++, sgm uniform, 1.5
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Don't worry bros, Astralite will save auraflow.
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>>8273588
/hdg/ is more of a weapon test facility.
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>>8273682
weaponized samefagging
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>>8273681
it's hopeless, he's blind and retarded
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>>8273682
exactly, this is operation paperclip mkultra skunkworks but for autistic coomers
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>>8273682
It wasn't always like that. I remember a few months after the orange mixes popped up, it wasn't as hostile
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>>8273681
freudian slip admission that pony is bad aesthetics
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>>8273688
Theres just 1 or 2 shitposters desu, the entire thread isn't hostile.
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>>8273681
kek
sepia washed clop porn model, top-tier aesthetics
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>>8273675
you'd be amazed how toxic some SD discord servers are, I've been in em
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>>8273670
Hmm, not sure. It was just a random foxgirl OC
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>>8273695
Her lingerie is so nice in this one
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What upscaler do you use? I don't like how mine comes out.
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>>8273698
remacri
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>>8273698
I use Latent and I have the same issue
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>>8273698
animesharp for more strictly "2d" shading
4x_NMKD-Superscale-SP_178000_G otherwise
someone recommended 4x-UltraMix_Balanced over superscale but i honestly havent done a regular upscale/hiresfix since then to test it
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>>8273699
Thanks, that looks better.
>>8273701
>latent
Well, there's your problem.
>>8273705
Haven't tried UltraMix, i'll check it out.
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>>8273693
Really? All SD-adjacent discords I've been to are either technical or UwU-OwO weebs without much drama.
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>>8273588
thank fuck we never ended up like this jesus christ. i bitch about the schizos all the time and i'd still take them over /sdg/'s gay faggot shit any day
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>>8273588
Is this /ksg/ but stable diffusion lmao?
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>>8273688
the sd 1.5 days were simpler because everyone was on a level playing field but NAIv3 fucked these threads up hard and Pony was an awful cope. the new model experimenting phases are the best parts of /hdg/ tho and so far illustrious has been a blast.
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Since I normally prompt faceless dudes, it never ocurred to me how to keep adetailer from messing with the regional prompter when it is dealing with characters the checkpoint doesn't know. I imagine the rest of you use inpainting or something similar?
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I can't decide which model is better
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>>8273716
kill yourself
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>>8273667
now thats a blush
the fuming head is a really nice touch too
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>>8273716
I vote for Miqo.
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>>8273667
Those bright prink frills got me acting up like a Bee
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>>8273715
[SEP]
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>>8273716
all 3 in the trash
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>>8273712
whats ksg
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>>8273715
This question doesn't even make a little bit of sense. I'm 90% sure your issue is solved via setting adetailer to go left to right and using [SEP]
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>>8273695
>>8273667
Catbox?
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>>8273724
kobold shoeshiners general
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training with zsnr off looks closer to the intended style than training with zsnr on?
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>>8273734
Should mostly be the same
https://litter.catbox.moe/6g2hpq.png
https://litter.catbox.moe/g5a088.png
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>>8273745
Your galko is so fucking perfect!
Box plz?
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How does multidifusion work? I'm getting these amalgamations, someone teach me onegai
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>>8273748
https://files.catbox.moe/ch6r7a.png
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>>8273750
How my vision gets after I cum extremely hard
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>>8273750
mixture of diffusors is for adding detail to already large images. make image > upscale in extras > i2i that image with MoD on with the resolution set to the original image size (not the upscaled image size).
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>>8273756
accurate
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>>8273740
Thanks, anon.
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>>8273762
Both of them should be black
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>>8273737
that is concerning
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>>8273769
actually it might not be zsnr so much as debiased estimation being off instead of on (off being the one that also has zsnr off)
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>F.S style
>Cattleya
>Standing missionary
I'm impressed, i always struggled with any one of those with pony, even when using loras. Noob is pretty neat, quality is not great though.
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>>8273773
She's beautiful as fuck. great gen.
Is that your OC?
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>>8273775
She's Cattleya from Queen's Blade. The thick milf of the series.
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>there's a janny at civitai looking at my porn uploads
Kekkerino
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>>8273777
Oh fuck yeaaaaaaaaah
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>>8273588
it's mostly 1, there's a resident schizo literally haunting the place, I can't believe how he doesn't get instabanned every single time
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>>8273716
Miqo is obviously much better in this gen, not even close
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Why is it melting
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>>8273784
It's cum
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Anyone tried SD3.5L?
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>>8273788
No, be the first
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>>8273787
such a clean style works very well
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>>8273788
Only the web demo. A little worse than flux. Not worth downloading unless you want to finetune it
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>>8273788
for normal gens yes, for porn it's not viable yet
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>>8273770
you need that or one of the other snr loss related options on, yeah. kohya is merging the fix for debiased specifically soon too
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>>8273681
the base training maybe wouldnt matter, but the sdxl vae makes the model completely worthless
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>>8273799
debiased estimation off in that grid is the 2nd one that's closer to the art style than debiased estimation on, i mean.
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>>8273688
yeah he took a break around then and then restarted a couple months later
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>>8273800
He has everything planned out. Total pony dominance for the next decade
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>>8273802
debiased estimation is actually shit, it nukes your details just like the other things that try to do the same thing in different ways. the only one worth a damn is min snr gamma but only if you set the threshold to something high like 10+. the default 5 will cook the fuck out of your fine details, it's useless
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Thoughts? Uncompressed: https://files.catbox.moe/kag5rr.png
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>>8273808
He said he would be FAANG scale in 5-10 years chud, take notes from the master.
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>>8273444
Fuck you, Robotnik!
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>>8273810
i'm still in a dream...
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>>8273802
ah, my bad. if you aren't using the fix it'd fuck it up even more, but what >>8273809 said holds some merit too since it's what NAI used.
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>>8273810
middle row looks a little bit better than the top. bottom row adds crisper edges to everything even if the artist doesn't have it, especially the mdastarou, that's a total fail

you should compare to smoothFT and smoothFT SPO
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>>8273802
>>8273815
>it nukes your details
little do they know what debiased estimation actually does (exactly opposite)
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>>8273817
this is off my empirical testing, i don't really care what the math is if it doesn't work right
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>>8273808
>custom arch
did he overdose on horse cum?
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>>8273808
>custom arch
SepiaXDL
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>>8273817
>little do they know what debiased estimation actually does (exactly opposite)
t. anon who has never done an a/b test
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>>8273814
SNAAAAAAKE EEEEEEEAAAAATEEEEEEER
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>>8273819
Same guy who didn't know what dropout was will make a custom arch.
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>>8273818
>>8273821
the math works perfectly fine, from your empirical testing one can only say that you fucked up your learning rate
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>>8273824
how hard could it be?
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>>8273825
you said this like 2 weeks ago when i was testing, "fix your learning rate," to what? give me a number range, post x/y plots yourself, or shut the fuck up
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Why is everybody talking about this "noob" model? What makes it so interesting?
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>>8273828
it's simple. if debiased estimation loss doesn't work then your learning rate is too high, unless you lowered your learning rate in which case debiased estimation loss is too low
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>>8273828
can you not calculate the exact area proportions, stupid?
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>>8273831
>>8273832
>no number
>no number
cool
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>>8273829
nothing besides the test model with v-prediction, which solves the problems with average luminance most models have, like how it's tough to make a truly dark room
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>>8273829
Just keep using pony little bro
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>>8273837
Orcs are groid-coded
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>>8273833
it's simple, the number is always whatever you aren't using
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>>8273840
maybe that poster is black
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>>8273840
shit take, the orcs were able to form a society and were actually capable of following orders
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>>8273846
really depends on the setting
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>>8273847
talking about TA1 (the only one that matters)
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Illu is not pony, but it is SDXL, no?
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>>8273850
ye its sdxl
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>>8273850
it's cascade
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>>8273852
so, wont all the XL Loras then work?
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>>8273857
no
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>>8273857
if it was trained on base xl, maybe, but rebaking isn't that bad, its testing settings and curating dataset thats the most time consuming
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>>8273779
I don't know if you're serious but I see literally no indication that it's one schizo. There are generals where it's very likely the case, but I'm not seeing it here. I am pretty sure we have several (2-4) deep-rooted resident schizos who have different origin stories, and maybe couple of opportunistic shitposters who just throw shit for fun occasionally.
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>>8273860
it was trained on kohaku actually
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>>8273625
>no mention of ani's animation efforts or guide
no wonder why he left this dump and became somebody
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>>8273860
I guess that means that we will have to wait for all the loras to be remade
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>>8273864
ani really did a lot to push animation tech forward, pity that schizos chased him away from here
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>>8273864
>and became somebody
yeah, a lolcow
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>>8273840
Sorry I'm not a zoomer or mentally ill, so I don't make that association when genning common hentai themes like taimanin and orcs
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>>8273865
You'll be waiting another few weeks, we're all waiting for the final noob version.
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>>8273866
technically the first to do so which is kind of wild. I hope his gui is good

>>8273867
he is likely being paid 6 digits while you flip burgers
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Bros...
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>>8273861
nope I'm not talking about normal banter, it's literally a mentally ill schizophrenic guy who keeps repeating super forced "catchphrases", he's here all day everyday, but not at the moment so I think he may be european. He also answers itself and pretend to have arguments over absolutely nothing, as if there's a war between models like "ponysister seethe" - "kys naigger" - "localsisters what's our response?" etc.
If you scroll up you'll see the pattern, he's literally tainting every thread to the point of them being impossible to post in
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>>8273874
they are perfectly possible if you just ignore him, seeing as he's been here since around december 2022 with a few breaks
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>>8273870
wont illu make noob obsolete?
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schizosisters, our response?
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>>8273773
>>8273776
Yup, tits so big you gotta use "gigantic" instead of "huge"
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>>8273462
i laughed

>>8273666
i have an extremely vague knowledge of that and i intend on keeping it this way, so nope
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>>8273876
yeah I had to filter hundreds of his phrases but for some reason it makes my blood boil... I know there's no reasoning and he's severely mentally ill, but even in mental illness I cannot grasp how the life goal of somebody may be literally only to bother others and how he never gets banned when he's so easy to spot
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>>8273877
No
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>>8273737
can you post your dataset? i wanna do some tests
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>>8273883
narcissism is a hell of a thing
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>>8273873
>we never got a furfag holocaust
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>>8273883
it's just a bunch of common 4chan meme phrases. The one schizo theory is retarded
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>>8273881
i forgor this tag actually works now
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>>8273893
look out for it when he's around and you'll see
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>>8273893
explain that it always occurs at the same times of day and in the same patterns every single day then
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all me
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i did it
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>>8273874
there might have been the original one but I'm rather sure there are several retards who could take after his traits and catchphrases and use it just to be a pest. and there is certainly more than one retard who takes this model war crap seriously.
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>>8273883
if i had one wish, it would be to gain the power to execute schizos through my monitor
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>>8273882
>i have an extremely vague knowledge of that and i intend on keeping it this way
Understandable. The series can be quite good but if you don't have a soft spot for G-Mod/Mecha/Weirdness then getting to actually appreciate it can be quite the challenge.
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>they forgot about me
>i used to be the top schizo
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>>8273886
https://files.catbox.moe/pbu0go.rar
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>>8273897
The thread is most active during eu and us hours and most trolls stick to tried and true tactics like enraging pedos or instigating model wars
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>>8273897
why is it so retarded?
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>>8273905
thanks
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>>8273904
subnet-chan????
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>>8273910
what the fuck is a subnet...
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>>8273906
>thread is most active during eu and us hours
this is certainly the phrase of all time
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So close to seeing the next highlights come on bros...
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IA schizo has done irreparable damage to this thread
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>>8273913
Calm down. Let the thread rest.
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I guess we're not allowed to link to Catbox galleries? There's a NAI wildcard test gallery at catbox dot moe c/0vjsok

Does anyone have any advice on eeking out the most quality from the NAI models? Going to try to do a sex acts wildcard and an orgasm face one to test how well it can handle scenes with multiple characters.

I can also do vibe transfer requests if anyone wants one but doesn't want to pay for NAI.
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>>8273919
Buddy did you just get out of a time machine?
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I have been getting back into prooompting and was still using A1111 after it received the SDXL updates a while ago. Is there any reason to stick to A1111 or should I just jump ship to reForge since that seems to be what everyone else is on?
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>8273919
good morning falseflagger sir
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>>8273923
If your hardware allows it keep using A1111.
If you have a toaster or want to use schizo dev branches use (Re)Forge.
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>>8273926
>If you have a toaster or want to use schizo dev branches use (Re)Forge.
Or stuff like v-pred that isn't supported on A1111 yet I suppose.
I have a 3090 at the moment so I haven't really had any issues with A1111 outside of doing some really high resolution stuff for wallpapers.
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>>8273923
Use this
https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-reForge/tree/dev_upstream
Anyone saying otherwise is trolling, or a comfy schizo.
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Orgasm face wildcard:

eye roll mouth open tongue out ahegao drool
eyes closed screaming orgasm
<3 eyes overjoyed open mouth orgasm
eyes closed grimace clenched teeth frown tears
half-lidded eyes moaning looking pleasured
ahegao
(fucked silly:1.6)
(looking pleasured:1.5)
(orgasm face:1.7)
cross-eyed eye roll blush evil grin looking pleasured
(ahegao:1.441) blush (tears:1.3) (drool:1.21) (cum from nose:1.21)
(scared:1.5) blush tears drool (looking pleasured:1.1)
(insane:1.4) blush (drool:1.1) (tears:1.1) fucked silly
wide eyed shocked expression blush looking pleasured overjoyed
wide eyed clenched teeth blush looking pleasured
(happy:2) blush looking pleasured drool tears
(smile:2) blush looking pleasured tears

Any other good prompts for orgasmic looks?

>>8273923
Do you have space for both? Reforge is supposed to update more often and supposedly be faster, but tends to break extensions and things. A1111 is more reliable, and honestly I haven't noticed a speed difference for gens using either.
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>>8273928
>Or stuff like v-pred
Did I stutter?
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>>8273816
Yeah, not sure how I didn't notice that. Seems inherent to the Itercomp approach from what I can tell, so this is probably a dead end. Disappointing, cause I like the colors feel like its more coherent, but without another finetune on top, it's just a straight downgrade in terms of style.

Thanks for pointing it out anon
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>>8273910
Hey I'm here too, not a schizo though, absolutely normal fully developed and mentally stable human (100%)
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>>8273904
no brown god...
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>SD3.5 released
>they made it unfathomably based

6-step gen with the Turbo version, on:
"2d, anime, 1girl, standing, looking at viewer, smiling, topless, full body, medium breasts, nipples, tattoos, choker, platinum blonde hair, outdoors, blue sky, grass, trees"
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>>8273942
FINETUNE WHEN????
This has potential.
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>>8273942
it's nice that it can produce 1.5 slop out of the box but we still don't have the compute to finetune it.
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>>8273942
HUH
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>>8273937
yeah, it's not like it's bad, it actually looks nice, but it's incorrect
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bros we finally have good open source VAI!
https://www.genmo.ai/blog
only requires 4xH100 for inference :)
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>>8273942
is there a current forge/reforge that can run it?
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>>8273948
Yeah. Might still upload it to civit for those quick jeetbucks, but gonna let it be for now
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>>8273762
Me on the far right.
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>>8273942
That's weird. I can't seem to get nipples that good. I'm using non-turbo though.
Don't tell me turbo is actually somehow less censored?
Can you post a catbox?
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>>8271331
box for the style?
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>>8273957
it's pony
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>>8273959
nice try but pony can't produce backgrounds that detailed, it would put her standing in the middle of a dirt road with like 2 featureless blob trees
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>>8273963
unfathomably massive skill issue
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>>8273964
>sansgen
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>>8273942
8b parameters for a model that produces 1.5 slop. nobody is going to use this when it's that bad
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>>8273965
>fr*nch
kys
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>>8273966
i have absolutely zero faith or loyalty to stability but you're aware this model is trained to do a lot more shit than generate 1girl, standing anime images right
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Here's a prompt with wildcards:

nsfw, __NAITestedArtistMixes__ __NAIAnimeMonsterGirls__ __NAI1GirlSexActs__ , __expressions__ , __backgrounds__ , __cameraangles__ , __NAIAnimeArtMediums__ best quality, amazing quality, very aesthetic, absurdres, extremely detailed, year 2024, uncensored, colorful, high contrast, depth of field, dramatic lighting, shaded

For pic related it turned into:

nsfw, artist:yabuki kentarou, mermaid, fish tail, fins, head fins, green scales, blonde hair, long hair, green eyes, navel, shell hair ornament, big breasts, 1girl, 1boy, stomach bulge, sex, cum, cum overflow, orgasm, motion line, motion blur, , :3 , savanna , front view , oekaki best quality, amazing quality, very aesthetic, absurdres, extremely detailed, year 2024, uncensored, colorful, high contrast, depth of field, dramatic lighting, shaded

Am I missing any other concepts or quality tags that could improve gens? It seems like the more aspects you have in a prompt the better the results you get out of NAI, so rather than leaving angles or such up to chance it seems like specifying them improves quality.
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Are there any anons who have had success with Patreon? Thinking about a career change and need some supplemental income. Any advice for growing an audience?
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>>8273977
Blacked gacha girls
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>>8273977
change 1 artist from the nai griftermix, look up the most popular recent gachawhores and gen them getting blacked
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>>8273977
don't be a sellout
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>>8273970
hello 2023 time traveler, how is it back there
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>>8273981
Wouldn't NAI grifters be bleeding subscribers by now seeing how the dataset hasn't been updated in quite a while so they'd be missing out on a lot of the more current gacha sluts?
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New Thread:

>>8273984
>>8273984
>>8273984
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>>8273484
nta, I have a 24gb card but even this OOMs for me somehow. I have to put on grad accumulation at 2 and batch size at 4. what's your pytorch version by chance? or anything special with your deps you're doing? before you ask my gpu initializes at 0gb in use since it's not the one driving my displays.
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>>8273452
Didn't give me a good result. Two repeats of 30 pictures for 6 epochs, and without anything else changed.



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