SubSauna EditionPrevious Thread: >>8327155>LOCAL UIA1111: https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webuiForge: https://github.com/lllyasviel/stable-diffusion-webui-forge | Alternative version (reForge): https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-reForgeComfy: https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUI>LOCAL MODELSPony: https://civitai.com/models/404802 | https://civitai.com/models/288584 | https://civitai.com/models/257749Illustrious: https://civitai.com/models/795765Noob: https://civitai.com/models/833294>PAIDNovelAI: https://rentry.org/hdg-nai-v3NAI API/prompting in A1111: https://github.com/Metachs/sdwebui-nai-api>RESOURCESWiki: https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/wiki | https://comfyanonymous.github.io/ComfyUI_examples | https://openart.ai/workflows/templatesTraining: https://rentry.org/59xed3 | https://github.com/derrian-distro/LoRA_Easy_Training_Scripts | https://github.com/bmaltais/kohya_ss | https://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainerTags: https://danbooru.donmai.us/wiki_pages/tag_groups | https://danbooru.donmai.us/related_tagControlNet: https://rentry.org/dummycontrolnet | https://civitai.com/models/136070 | https://huggingface.co/2vXpSwA7/iroiro-loraIOPaint (LamaCleaner): https://www.iopaint.com/installUpscalers: https://openmodeldb.infoBooru: https://aibooru.online4chanX Catbox/NAI prompt userscript: https://rentry.org/hdgcbPony-related: https://rentry.org/ponyxl_loras_n_stuff | https://rentry.org/ponyxl_lora_previews | https://lite.framacalc.org/4ttgzvd0rx-a6jfIllustrious-related: https://rentry.org/illustrious_loras_n_stuffUseful Nodes/Extensions: https://rentry.org/8csaevw5https://rentry.org/artists_listOP Template/Logo: https://rentry.org/hdgnew/raw | https://files.catbox.moe/xk99gy.png | https://files.catbox.moe/35bdt5.gif>Related>>>/aco/sdg>>>/g/sdg>>>/g/ldg>>>/d/ddg>>>/e/edg>>>/u/udg>>>/vt/vtai>>>/vg/aids>>>/b/degen>>>/trash/sdg
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Highlights, did you make it?
>>8329743kill yourself
>ayakon made itYES! MY GOAT!
>>8329744>didn't make itFucking christ
>>8329743kill yourself(I have a theory that highlight anon is incapable of including gens from towards the end of the thread because he doesn't have the ability to fit them into the collages in time)
Made it 5 times. New record! All thanks to my inspirational prompting BGM.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMnOyceOpjI&ab_channel=VervainVanity
>>8329750How does it feel to be a rising star in the hentai AI image gen community?
>>8329751I wish I could draw.
>>8329750congrats, should've started a grift back in March dude
>>8329744I wanted to do this joke but I couldnt be arsed
Model to dethrone pony/noob shitmixes when?
>>8329756never
>>8329743I am mildly offended that the only output that got in was my low effort one, and not the ones I actually inpainted and drew for.
>>8329758it's "highlights"
>>8329750I also made it in 5 times, good music does enhance latent space RNG bwo
>>8329752what's stopping you from starting now?
>>8329760I don't like latent space. I would rather doodle something that would make sense there rather than leave anything to doubt.>>8329762Utter and complete lack of talent. Can't even make a damn torso without needing to draw it over and over again.
>use long negatives on noob that i made up myself>fucking blurry smudged gens>use the negatives from a clean catbox of a random anon >his negatives are less than 60 tokens>try them out anyways>clean genoh you big motherfucker, i swear man i fucking swear
>>8329765>talentretard, bet you fell for the /ic/ neuroplasticity meme tooonly way to get good at drawing is to draw a lot
>>8329766yeah, schizo negs fuck up noob. especially vpredless negs the better
anyone got a collection of wildcards they feel like sharing?
>>8329771https://files.catbox.moe/0ranys.zip
>>8329765>>8329763at least you have eyes to know when a torso is wrong unlike that guy
>>8329770nta but I have "jpeg artifacts,low quality,scan,censored,bar censor,chibi,chibi inset,bad anatomy,unfinished,displeasing,artistic error," in my neg and im not too sure about it, from my test the gen do get better but not by an amount equivalent to the number of token wasted on it
>>8329773oh I forgot about this girl, catbox?
>>8329773gracias amigo
>>8329776https://files.catbox.moe/ka3t3s.png>>8329777De nada bwo
>>8329766Make sure not have color negs on the vpred one. Fries like hell with that
>>8329785thats some interesting underwear, what did you prompt for it?
>>8329787Just rng from "crystal lingerie"
>>8329786>tfw_inverted_nipples.png
>there's a theobrobine lora on civitoh yeah, now we're slopmaxxing
>>8329793>a dick of that size, doing a stomach bulgewho genned this? the schizo who is afraid of hyper?
vpred 0.65 where ffs
>>8329793box it
>>8329796not to worry, lax misheard something and now all the computing power is put to work on a tangent.
>>8329796sorry but the next vpred ver is 0.61 since they were busy training eps 1.1
>HMMMMM... I WILL SUCK A BIG FAT PENIS TODAY
>>8329796vpred is only good for dark scenes, Epsilon is home
how do i make lighting look good on epsilon
bros... look at my trainer
>>8329806you don't. vpred is for that
GOD why are ALL the people with funds/machines FUCKING RETARDED!? if only an anon from /hdg/ held the reins, and i mean literally ANYONE from here, we'd be shooting for the moon and landing on mars!!! but these STUPID fucking money men are such RETARDED cocksuckers, jeez!
>>8329811Like Jordach?
>>8329811now put your trip on, astra
>>8329811like neggles¿
>>8329811If you are so smart, why don't you have compute?
>>8329811you are now in charge, whats your training plan, how do you curate dataset, how do you handle vpred?
>>8329811none of our asses is coding, data prepping, and coordinating for all of that and you know it
>>8329811did LAX even explain why they bent the knees to the furry overlords and added e621? it was going so good and they shot them selves in teh foot. I havent used any noob models over 0.5 epsilion because of it.
>>8329809paruparu did it but the trade off is confetti texture on most samplers
>>8329818they thought more data=better model
>>8329818It's because I dmed him saying I wanted to gen Izutsumi with 8 nipples and e621 would help me do that
>>8329819who
>>8329818The good ol, furry model = better anatomy misguided sentiment that stemmed from EF and pony
>>8329819>>8329824ah, it's that sd1.5 looking slop, nevermind
>>8329826Its really funny how that sentiment even got echoed here and no one actually bothered to even check out e621 before people realized how 1.0 turned out
https://files.catbox.moe/ftfki2.png
>>8329834UUUUUUUUUUUOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>8329834Ignore the anon aboveLove yourself
>>8329827If anything I feel like the base style looks like pony but it's not like you can't use artist tags.https://files.catbox.moe/gdhmgi.png
>>8329832>>8329838>>8329843cock, cum?
>>8329844Just DIY on your screen
>>8329787After further prompting I think the chiaroscuro LoRA is contributing to the look as wellhttps://civitai.com/models/915440?modelVersionId=1031514
>>8329804box me up
>>8329742Previous Thread HighlightsTH_24-11-14_-hdg-_a.jpg>https://files.catbox.moe/fa990t.jpgTH_24-11-14_-hdg-_b.jpg>https://files.catbox.moe/kys123.jpgTH_24-11-14_-hdg-_c.jpg>https://files.catbox.moe/d1ek3k.jpg
>>8329854based based
>>8329837>>8329839>wide hipsyou guys are absolute brain dead retards
Do people genuinely still gives a shit about noob when RouWei exist?
bros.. look at my trainer farming protein.
>>8329859post at least one of YOUR rouwei gen
>>8329859Do people genuinely still gives a shit about RouWei when the NTRMix lora exists for noob?
Trip back on minthy
>>8329818negatives:mammal, anthro, furry, ambiguous_form, feral,Nigger.
>>8329808>>8329864I'm looking
>>8329869i put :1.4) emphasis on last one
>>8328938Think you've got the wrong prompt, king
i have no idea what im doing anymore
help
>>8329852https://files.catbox.moe/m1xzxz.png
>>8329880thanks buddy
>>8329875thats a cute style, deliver box pls
Haven't been here for a few months, did Jordach save local yet?
>>8329870ok bro.. we're just going to go train in viridian,
>>8329892me at the back
I don't know what the fuck I'm doing, so I have been looking at this guide. Maybe it will help someone else here.
give me critique and snake oilhttps://files.catbox.moe/exhd0f.png
>>8329899Use Kohaku_LoNyu_Yog
>>8329899i'd let her oil my snake if you know what i mean ;)
>>8329899>shit anatomy>skin folds>deformed bed
>>8329904unironically how do you deal with skin folds? any tags that help with that?
>>8329906"loli"
>>8329898gibe drawing tutorials i wanna learn too
>>8329906Your negative prompts is lacking, take inspiration from the anons sharing their boxes
>>8329906No idea, but I've noticed that those higher score tags give more photo realistic results, if you are using autism.
>>8329911What the fuck is this post, literally nobody here is using autism/pony garbage except for ayakonRope
>>8329908Don't know much about tutorials, but most of the time I look at Asutora's art and these guidebooks.https://x.com/anterdelhttps://exhentai.org/g/1973041/51c2db04c6/https://exhentai.org/g/2903119/72bf1fd6ac/
>>8329912It really shows that you aren't using autism. Your gen is absolute diarrhea mess.
I want to have fun with anime schoolgirls in back alleys
V4 status?PonyV7 status?Jordach status?
>>8329920all dead and irrelevant
>>8329912Despite what shills here try to tell you, everyone outside of this hellhole is using pony and its derivatives. Most good posters left this place by this point.
>>8329923based ayakon speaking the truth
>>8329912Despite what shitposters retard here try to tell you, everyone outside of this hellhole is using illus and its derivatives. Most good posters left this place by this point.
>>8329916
should I be training my loras on base illustious/noob or some other one?
>>8329933depends what you want to use your loras on
>>8329936based idol enjoyer
>>8329744I'm still laughing my ass off from that Biden pic, truly one of the highlights of all time
>>8329936>not bbcSo close to perfect gens...
>>8329937I'm typically on noob 0.5. I thought the consensus was to train on ill, since it seems similar enough to noob. I'm not sure if it's any less compatible with the various noob versions.I really with there wasnt so many versions it makes lora training so anoying
>>8329941box?
>>8329946https://files.catbox.moe/hlzsqr.png
>>8329944it make everything annoying to be honest
Here are the key points from the web page:The page is a thread on a forum discussing AI-generated hentai images, with various users sharing their generated content and discussing techniques.It includes links to various AI models, tools, and resources for generating and working with AI-created hentai images.There is discussion around the pros and cons of different AI models, with users debating the merits of models like Noob, RouWei, and Illustrious.Users share their own generated images and provide feedback, both positive and negative, on the quality and content of the images.There are references to using certain prompts, negative prompts, and techniques to achieve desired results when generating the images.The overall tone of the thread is casual and technical, with users sharing knowledge and tips within the hentai AI generation community.
>>8329952not reading your chatgpt ass
>>8329953its claude
>>8329954I thought he was busy helping jordach?
>>8329956its ntr
Ancientfagging.
>>8329968Can you make the dude a bit darker?
>>8329967zased
>>8329922I magical girls were real because they're always so fuckable
bros.. trying to convince my star pupil that her hair might be a hindrance in her routine.
take the erp shit somewhere else, they'll love you in the other boards
>>8329972>Kino cun
Does BREAK actually work or just a placebo?
>>8329971box please?
>>8329974take your nogen ass somewhere else, they'll love you in the other boards
>>8329974oi beeg nogen. there's the door. >>8329977Based.
hot gluehttps://files.catbox.moe/n87u6d.png
Still waiting for someone to have an ideia on how to prune controlnets myself
>>8329981To separate concepts? I have had much better luck using regional prompting. I find it extremely temperamental.>>8329985You must be at least 40 years old.
>>8329985prompt for those expressions? wondering if it'll work as well with other artists
>>8329744Yay I got in
>>8329998>You must be at least 40 years old.nta but nah im 30 and i remember the times when rozen maiden was popular
>>8329998Drawing for this one, Yeezus anon?
>>8329999https://files.catbox.moe/l3v2vh.png>head tilt, confused, ... open mouth, disgustcould also probably add half-closed eyes and shaded face, also probably uneven eyes
>>8329999nta but looks like disgust
>>8329898tits too small
>>8329811I hold the reins for my loras and those don't even turn out well, so
whats the twitter from the guy who made anytest controlnet again?
To the anon(s) who put BREAK in their prompts.Explain yourselves.
>>8330030Don't make fun of rouwei bros, life id already hard enough for them.
>>8330030I'm a snake oil baron, I need to maximize all snake oil use
>>8330030it just werks
>>8330030tokens have a higher priority the earlier they're placed.BREAK resets the prompt register.This lets you do schizo style tag oriented prompts, then place a BREAK before doing all of your character shit without character shit(or your schizo style prompt) being lower priority while also lowering the risk of hitting/splitting the 75 token break which can fuck things up(since each portion is in their own register)it's not very complicated.
>>8329880>https://files.catbox.moe/m1xzxz.pngWhere can I find the Kohaku_LoNyu_Yog sampler, pls?
>>8330036https://github.com/Koishi-Star/Euler-Smea-Dyn-Sampler
>>8329864Box?
>>8329971Box?
Everything you say to meTakes me one step closer to the edgeAnd I'm about to BREAK
>>8330043one aligned step*
>>8330044Can you make it not /aco/?
>>8330039If you don't mind, where do I actually put the files? I don't understand the instructions. Thank you
request anchor doko
is kohaku_lonyu_yog supposed to be that "smooth"?>>8330039just install as any extension
>>8330056very meta of you
>>8330058>is kohaku_lonyu_yog supposed to be that "smooth"?it's smoothFT-SOLID
>>8330061(s)he has a hip tumor :(
>>8330062adetailer... kisama...
>>8330058Yes, maybe I'm missing something but it seems practical only for inpainting.>>8330061That's someone's son you sick fuck.
>>8330062>>8330063It's been a long time since cnet upscaling spawned me an extra nipple. I got too cocky and stopped searching, bros..>>8330064Not sure what you mean, anon. That's just a shy tomboy.
I'll be honest, red lipstick gives me a visceral negative reaction every time I see it. It reminds me of old ladies or something. It's almost like it exudes a smell when I look at it.
Which model is the current hotness?
>>8330065>it's smoothFT-SOLIDoh, that's a thingis it any good?
>>8330069Missed a spot.
>>8330070Frankly, I never had much luck with it. Prefer the SPO one. Or did before settling with a noob shitmix.
>>8330072aight, guess i'll stick with vpred 0.6
>>8330068NTRmix
>>8330039anyone else using comfy have these all break on the latest update? trying to use them with the latest noob checkpoint gives me some weird tensor mismatch error. every other sampler works fine though, it's only the weird smea and kohaku ones shitting the bed
Are vpred checkpoints ready for practical use yet or I am better off using eps 0.5 still? Not interested in red on black backgrounds, just wanna coom.
>>8330066I've felt this way my whole life. Black lipstick is worse though, like I get cringey second hand embarrassment or something.
>>8330078the vpred versions are the comfyui of the illustrious world
>>8330078no they completely fucked up not even Euler a works properly on them. instead of waiting til they fix the problem to release they just kept releasing, so ignore it. It's probably a lost cause unless they decide to properly convert 0.5 instead of continuing to attempt over top of fucked up 1.0, but they give 0 fucks I guess. At this point I'm half convinced kurumuz paid lax off to sabotage the project
>>8330086Which model is this?
>>8330084>kurumuz paid lax off to sabotage the projectexactly this, they wouldn't be able to make profit off naiv4 otherwise
>>8330083>>8330084I mean if there is some combination of snake oil samplers that would make it work once you set it and forget it, I'd be fine with it, but my experience with it wasn't great. Guess I'll still try making something with vpred 0.7 if I find some saved catbox with it, but eps 0.5 felt like the only one "just works" illu-based model to me. Other ones are either underbaked or fried.
>>8330089How much time can they spend on cooking v4 anyway? If they care about their grifter/coomer subscriber base they really should make some cope 3.1 version with updated characters at least. They must be losing subscribers in droves right now considering noobai, gift keys removal and complete lack of updates.
>>8330088Noob Vpred 0.6https://files.catbox.moe/q9zmtj.png
>>8330092>commander \(azur lane\)what is this actually trained on? Not like we have ever seen him.
>>8330096what matters is whats on danbooru
>>8330096It's your jeneric dude in naval uniform duh
>>8330096All the pictures of a faceless guy in a white uniform having sex with botes, I guess. I just threw it in because it felt right to do it.
>>8330080based and real
Thinking about trying to earn some money by generating lewd because I really need money right now and am decent enough with SD. Is that a good idea? Looking at pixiv there's a LOT of ai posts there but there may be just way too much to try to fit in at this point. Thoughts?
>>8330103post your gens and we'll decide if you're worthy
>>8330103Spam image sets of blacked gacha sluts and you should at least be able to make minimum wage
>>8330103The quality of your gens doesn't matter, what matters is finding an audience of retards willing to pay for your slop. Slopping lots of extreme niche fetish content is probably the most profitable path.
>>8330103>>8330106It feels like blacked bubble is popping and I wonder if there's going to be another easy opening like that.
>>8330105>>8330108Yeah I don't think i will.>>8330106>The quality of your gens doesn't matterI think it does up to a point, at least the focus of the pic needs to be decent because I've seen supposedly foot fetish pics with 7 toes and shit like that and I have no idea why anyone would like that.>Slopping lots of extreme niche fetish content is probably the most profitable path.Noted.Any ideas how often I'd have to post? Like how many posts/pics per month does it take to start getting even $50 a month?
>>8330108>blacked bubble is poppingand all it took is for trump to win
>>8329892Need box whenever I gen hypno he's too fucking goofy ass. >>8329588Yeah it's hotter then oral more times then not, you can try "penis awe" or "cock worship" I think those used to give that same pose with pony it didn't feel like it was working as good in illu.
>(huge penis:1.2), ((huge testicles, girthy penis)), veiny penis
>small penis, frottage, foreskin, precum, penises touching
>>8330115>>8330117M-miquella.. uoooooh..
what's the name of that ai timelapse thing illyasviel made that made all the "artists" seethe? last seconds of those timelapses really helped with getting rid of that (ai-generated:1.2) feel of gens
>>8330109>I've seen supposedly foot fetish pics with 7 toes and shit like that and I have no idea why anyone would like that. Quantity is a quality of its own. If half a dozen out of the 1000 AI generated pics you publish per week have major issues it's no big deal, and most bottom feeding coomers willing to pay for AI porn wouldn't care in the first place. The hard part is getting to be known by them, you need to buy bots to boost your content on xitter and other social media for that.
>>8330121>you need to buy bots to boost your content on xitter and other social media for that.Do you KNOW they all do this or you just assume they all do?
>>8330115>>8330117Either of these but>(loli:1.2), futanari, low-angle view
>>8330124ain't that just otoko no ko shota then?
>>8330125Shut up, chuddie, it's a girl but with a penis, not some fag femboy.
>>8330125You're not supposed to ponder such questions
>>8330122It's only an assumption, but that's generally how it works for content creators that need to be pushed by the algorithm into people's timelines.
I'm doing my upscaling with mixture of diffusers after using Adverse Cleaner, is there a better way by now?
>>8330124You mean both of those with also>penis size difference, crossdressing, otoko no ko, teacher and student
>>8330132chin too long
>>8330122nta but I'm 90% sure that singapore/malay/indo fags on pixiv absolutely have their own little network that they run for their garbage and are pretty much single-handedly making the AI rankings on pixiv absolutely worthless.and you have literally zero reach on pretty much any platform at this point if you don't already have an audience, somehow manage to get the attention of someone that does have an audience or you pay for the audience.frankly, it's all pretty bullshit.
>>8330136Should have been early adopter if you wanted to get in. AIfags that started around nai leak had such an easy fucking time getting audience it's not even funny. Around the time of v3 release new ones started popping up but it was all blackedshit and the growth was much slower still. The next potential opening will be with a next major coom model release. If v4 isn't shit, it will it, if it's crap then we're gonna have to wait for a long fucking time for local to do actually make a breakthrough.
>>8330030Nyo.
What did the AI mean by thishttps://files.catbox.moe/y5kmdh.png
>>8330141god AI is so based
Hmm... nyo
pussy pancakes
>>8330139anon there is not "next big model" to "get in on it" with.If it goes under AI generated it gets filtered and you do not get an audience.The only way to acquire an audience now would be to do things that actually pass for not being AI and then not using the label.
why is it so pony?
it's aco
>>8330047nta but is it the shading, or is the face too detailed, or the thick outline? I'm comparing it to something like >>8321887 but it's hard to putinto words exactly when it's too far away from "proper" anime. I mean it's still pretty far from say this >>8612811 which is clearly too much.
>>8330154can't get used to the "new" cross linking >>>/aco/8612811nvm I forgot the third arrow anyway
>>8330154it's pony score_9, score_8_up, score_7_up face
>>8330158not saying it's a good image, jsut whether it belongs here; and where the line is
>>8330154the nose and the way it's constructed and detailed is, by itself, enough to qualify it as aco.the shading, the gaudy lipstick, the "literally why" high heels and the overdefined musculature are just cherries on top.it just directly resembles garbage "anime-a-like :^)" western porn art that rose up in the 00's.
>>8330159if it's pony it doesn't belong here. that's an aco model
>>8330161You can generate aco on illu and you can generate animu on pony.Skill issue.
>>8330164>you can generate animu on ponyWith 10 loras, yeah. The base model was primarily trained on western art.
>>8330164>>8330166show me anime pony gen
>>8330160I spent some time looking for an anime image with the same nose, similar lips and "literally why" high heels as a comparison. Guessing it's just the shading then, and muscle definition which is mostly just visible because of the shading.>>8330164When people can't tell it's pony than there's obviously no issue. It just feels like there are more of those im-between styles these days.
>>8329876genning kino is what you're doing
>>8330146yummy
Use this post to call out any nogen complainers
>>8330167Check the archive around august. People got pretty good at aping styles despite pony's bias, just took a ton of effort. Even before the new 4th Tail finetune.I remember this guy >>8182785 >>8181476 because he mentioned using style components.
>>8329808Box?
>>8330167base pony8um, nmb, score_9, score_8_up, score_7_up, score_6_up, score_5_up, score_4_up, source_anime1girl, female, nudeneg: source_cartoon, source_pony, source_furry
>>8329740Excellent pic again, also using this chance to appeal to the creator of this pic to share box.
>>8330153I would drop my current wageslave coding job and accept half the money for sitting at home genning all day instantly
>>8330169why bother asking if you're just going to ignore anything you decide you want to ignore?
>>8330180Would, if not for what? Just do it.I would make more money too. Senior devs make 20K a year in eastern eurupe, and work from home anyways. But I don't know how to avoid creative bankruptcy after genning hard for a few weeks.
>>8330188because I earn 6 figures writing easy python for idiots
>>8330010Why does the left one have intestine in her hair?
>>8330185You didn't address the comparison images at all, so I assumed you didn't look at them. Felt like a pretty safe assumption too around these parts, sorry if I misjudged you.
nipple
>>8330192why is it hairy?
>>8330191I didn't see anyone link to any comparison images.
>>8330190it's an embroidered head scarf.https://files.catbox.moe/p1iqnz.jpg
>>8330195desu
>>8330194>>8330154
>>8330191the "comparison" image from /h/ isn't actually a comparison at fucking all is why.The noses are constructed completely different. The shading is dramatically different. The heels in the linked "comparison" aren't "literally why" tier because they're actually fucking clothed and they're heavily stylized. The eyes, eye shape and facial construction are also all very, very different.The image being referenced as /aco/ is "bimbo" garbage, which is very, very explicitly western. The image you linked off to to "reference" is just shitty garbage VN filler.
I don't want to post in /aco/... Are you guys alright with me posting aco characters in anime style here?
>>8330201As if someone posting /aco/ characters would know what anime style is
>>8330201Well, can always give it a try.
No one here knows what anime is except jannies so post anything you want
>>8330167Oops. Wrong one. On that note how do you guys sort your images?
Better start posting some gpo miqo then
>>8330217You say that as if it's something bad
>>8330225It's bad without ces
*nom*
>>8330200I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just trying to understand the difference. Shading is obvious, but the lines look so similar to me. I actually pulled out a graphic tablet and traced them. "heavily stylized" is also not helpful, I mean do high heels fit a bodysuit but not a leather dominatrix getup?
>>8330216fry is it so why'd
>>8330231Don't know what you mean but the answer is because I'm retarded and not very good at this.
>>8330230I'm not going try to judge whether something is or isn't aco but I will say that both of these appeal to boomers.
>>8330232Based honest shitter.
>>8330230it's eyelashes
>>8330233I'm a boomer and both look like shit
Angel is so cute. He said that he can't comprehend stupidity of noob vpred models.
>>8330230It's the pixels
>>8330233yes
>>8330237and we should care why exactly?
there were like 200 posts deleted last thread are we really going to do this all over again today
>>8330240Discord gossip is the lifeblood of this thread, newfag
>>8330240>weSpeak for yourself, newfaggot
>>8330235But the other girl in the same image has those eyelashes. Lips too, although a lighter color.
>>8330240angel, ayakon, jordach,miqo and groidy is /hdg/culture
angel delivered, won't deliver anymorewhy should i care what he has to say?
>>8330248why should i care about what YOU have to say though? did you deliver anything at all, you worthless piece of nogen?
>>8330242and child porn is still there >>8327471
>>8330250based
aligning the steps as the steps align what cannot be seen
>>8330250Based
>>8330233For sure. It might be the only hentai franchise that survived two decades, and still going strong.
>6 fingers
>>8330261He stopped inpainting his gens since they're getting shit on anyway
>>8330260isn't that hyper?
>>8330261Consider this >>8330174
>>8330259why is it so fried
>>8330262I wonder why?
>>8330265It's a Mars Bar, it's destined for the fryer
>>8330264Should people post their own gens along with every complaint? I thought that'd be seen as avatarfagging, I always try to keep my gens clear of personal opinions.
>>8330262why won't he stop posting slop here? guess we need to keep shitting on then
>>8330266Maybe because he doesn't have an eye for style or perspective or anatomy or expressions and instead autistically judges his gens by the accuracy of outfits
>>8330264>>8330174
>>8330270That's unfortunate considering the uniform is incorrect anyway :^)
>>8330230have you considered that maybe if you're trying so damn hard to straddle a line that whatever the fuck it is you're doing probably just doesn't belong?look at it this way.post it on /h/ and you get bitched at for itpost it on /aco/ and literally no one cares(some might even like it)which of these two options seems to be more beneficial?
i think the vpred oversaturation is tied to particular tags or combinations of tags, asuka plus either sadamoto yoshiyuki or official art was getting red bias, but a combination of the two at 0 power plus some negs seemed to werk
>>8330268>Should people post their own gens along with every complaint?Yes
>>8330274I'm a filthy nogen phoneposter rn, so I have no skin in the game. Just trying to understand where people see the line. Quality control is this general's greatest advantage, even though it's weakened lately judging by those ayakon apologists. /aco/ allows everything, but that means you'll end up among people who've never even heard of adetailer or controlnet, and it's all pony. I try to educate them sometimes but the general doesn't have a long memory, unlike here. People come and go.
>>8330268>Should people post their own gens along with every complaint?No, sloppers just want a convenient way to deflect criticism. Nogen is better than a bad gen, there is no rush to fill the image limit.
>>8330279Ok
Question anons, If I want to train a style Lora for a style that NoobAI doesn't know already, which model version would you recommend training on? For eps version of the checkpoint, have you found it better to train on 0.5 or the current latest 1.0 version? And what about the v-pred version, is it better to train on the earlier 0.5 version or the latest one, 0.6?
>>8330286>which model version would you recommend training onThe one you'll be using the resulting lora on
>>8330286Just wait until a good version of noob drops. Will take two more weeks at most
>>8330286for EPS i rec train 0.5for vpred train latest
It's outhttps://civitai.com/models/871405
>>8330279>6 fingers
>>8330292Good job
>>8330293your gens are alright for a boomer
>>8330296>backhanded complimentnogen
>>8330288>The one you'll be using the resulting lora onRight, I get that, but let me try and rephrase what I'm asking for: which version of noob, if I trained a lora on said version, would allow most compatibility with future versions of Noob and it's derivatives/fine-tunes.>>8330291>for EPS i rec train 0.5>for vpred train latestThank you, I was thinking the same. I did train a lora not too long ago on the v-pred 0.5 version, and it still seems to work fine on 0.6. But I'll try train a new one, maybe soon, on the latest 0.6 (or the rumored 0.67-0.7 version coming maybe this weekend)>>8330289I curse your gens with one too many or too few fingers and the seams left behind from the inpainting mask around the hands will always be visible from miles away no matter what you do.
>>8330298Whichever one they decide to continue training from. I assume that would always be the latest, but no one knows for sure.
>>8330300>>8330301why is she so unimpressed?
>>8330304Haven't thought about the why, I just find it cute.
>>8330298>which version of noob, if I trained a lora on said version, would allow most compatibility with future versions of Noob and it's derivatives/fine-tunesThe current latest version of Noob (1.0 eps or 0.6 v-pred).LoRAs are just weight deltas, so as the model weights shift in training you're not guaranteed to get good results in later releases because it will (very likely) diverge more and more over time.
>>8330260Hey bro, would you mind to share a pack of your works? I want to bake a lora, unironically
>>8330309Just subscribe to patreon bro
>>8330309to use it at -1? that's a good idea
>>8330307Gotcha, thank you for the more technical explanation anon, much appreciated.
>>8330309search the archive by filename
GET OUT OF MY ROOM!!!
>>8330311Pony slider, kek>>8330315Yeah, I know, just wanted to ask score_10 king directly
>>8330300what's tag for pomf bubble
>>8330321"puff of air"That was more of a random gen as usually it comes out of the mouth area
>>8330318Hmm... nyo
uhhh guys? partial version of a partial version?https://huggingface.co/Laxhar/noobai-XL-Vpred-0.65s
>>8330324vpred 1.0 never ever
>>8330275You are EXPECTED to use shit like rescale/apg with vpred. Even NAI which all local bakers consider to be the golden standard of SDXL anime models it's the case. Some artist tags are very fried and work much better with rescale.
>>8329899needs a penis
>>8330326rescale is just desaturating my shit up and mucking with composition
>>8330000holy numbers
>>8329963box please?
Fusho civitai's best LORA creator is back,now with LORAS for illustrious!!!https://civitai.com/user/fufu2/models
>>8330347holy slop
>>8330347holy based
>>8329971In our lifetimes we will be able to make them real
>>8330300Needs black eye shadow and to be even more UNINTERESTED. Never change this beauty. Great stuff.
>>8330334>>8330359What prompts did you use to get so much cum?t. Bukkake enthusiast
https://files.catbox.moe/wx2q5k.jpg
>>8330270>judges his gens by the accuracy of outfitsWhich is of course completely different from all the genners here who judge their gens by the accuracy of artist styles and fotm anime/gacha characters. Nobody here has any sense for what makes a good picture. That's why it's all 1girl, simple background, pov slop with fancy oekaki styles smeared on top of it, like how people drown food on mustard and ketchup to mask the shit taste.
>>>8329686A shit ton actually, I just haven't bothered uploading any of them because my motivation fell off a cliff once noob came out and realized that none of my doras I trained worked on it.i'll upload them bit by bit to my megahttps://mega.nz/folder/27AXgLSS#-ojw0WbGra04b2Aps31HBg>>>8329703very cute drunk hag>>>8329532added to the mega
>>8330364Based
>>8330363Excessive cum is pretty potent just for that alone.
>>8330373I still find it's hard to get it to pool correctly like how I want too, like on the face for example. Not as thick either like yours.
>>8330377Not that anon who posted those but it's just adjusting emphasis and where you put the tag in your prompt.
>>8330385catbox?
>>8330324Wtf is happening with the vpred versions?
>>8330369if you're still looking for unique styles may i suggesthttps://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?tags=sunny_bitch+&z=5
>>8330324We aren't actually make it to v1 are we, like is this just like some cry for help at this point?
>>8330389I cant fucking take it anymore, why the fuck are they doing this. just make the damn thing and publish it when its done. I wish illustrious was the model that was still in development for public use, im sick of noob and their team.
>>8330389broken model, broken vpred implementationangel was right
>>8330388https://files.catbox.moe/ca32c0.png
>>8330387Could you give me an example?Would it be like (Bukkake:1.5,facial) or something? Still new. Been trying to redirect the splatter for a while.
>>8330393Seems like they are about to lose all their compute and they are just pushing out whatever they manage to train.If only the anons with inside information were here.
>>8330398(excessive cum, cum on face, facial, cumdrip, ejaculation, projectile cum)etc something like that, check danbooru wiki for all the tags too since that's where they're going to be. Prompt order is more important with illu / noob like Nai prompting so if you want something put it more to the front of the prompt imo.
>>83299682hugbox?
rouwei will save local, total zigger trust (ignore the fact his vpred impl is also broken)
>>8330400Thank you I'll try that. Using Illu/Noob 3.0 so I'll try and figure out exactly how to format my prompts in position.
>>8330391thats a low amount of images,but i'm up for the challenge
aligned step count : 100, it just looks better than 20, trust the steps
>>8330399It's nyover
>>8330412For me? It's the DDIM 1000 steps.
>>8330393i would rather they share their progress and exactly what they are doing so it can hopefully be course corrected, because clearly them doing it on their own is not going wellthough on the other hand the v pred channel seems adamant on confusing them even further with their stupid snake oil
>>8330412If you are going to align your steps that high, then DPM Fast is the sacred answer
so was vpred bad this entire time? why did people shill it here so hard
>>8330420NAI psyop to derail community projects, they included disinfo in their paper that vpred was good
>>8330420vpred is good when you know what you're doing. But it seems like only SaaS knows.
>>8330328interesting idea, but what about their legs
>>8330420I feel like it hasn't had a fair trial yet, given that LAX's team can't do the simplest of things right, let alone vpred
>>8330426Oooh, nice style
>>8330426I like the shading in this, is it the artist(s) you're using or tags? Very nice
>>8330423angel and neggles (lol) also figured it out
>>8330398nta but the thickness depends on the artstyle too. Many draw cum with no outline at all which makes it look low-volume
>comes back>no (you)'sits over
vchubabonus https://files.catbox.moe/mtgv71.png
>>8330429Is this where I'm supposed to say "it's pony" regardless of what it actually is?
>>8330347fucking based, I was really missing him
>>8330420No, vpred isn't bad. Lax and Euge don't know how to implement stuff. They should have just used CosXL and copy code from either Terminus or WD
>>8330428>>8330429https://files.catbox.moe/ncwd4f.png
>>8330440fuck those latex thighhighs are so hot
>nyalia
>>8330442They "could have done" a lot of things but it doesn't really matter now.
>try aligning 150 steps as a joke>actually looks better than my 30 stepshmm
>>8330444Thanks bwo, Nice Catto
>>8330437Either that or "why is it so x">>8330444Thanks for sharing, you're a homie *kisses*
>>8330448Hey, I complained about them before they even started training their first eps model and got a lot of hate for it on here :(
>>8330455that's some freaky lineartdrawing that on purpose would be a nightmare
>>8330459Doubt it's that complicated for JP artists.
Come on, anon, already?!
>>8330476That's nice. Box?
>>8330436whats the art style?
>>8330480why don't you open the catbox and find out
>>8330483it's just photoshop gibberish.
>>8330483thanks anon
>>8330481Feetbox pls
>>8330481>6 toes
Trying out NoobAI-XL 0.6 vpred edition with reForge. Been getting some really poor quality, splotchy generations out of it, compared to 0.5. I read the guide pretty thoroughly (using Euler only, CFG 4, etc), to no avail. On further inspection, most of the outputs on civitai are messy like this too. Is this model just… like this?
>>8330495Skill issue
>>8330495use dpm++ 2m, sgm uniform, and more than 25 steps. you can use cfg rescale or apg with 6-7 cfg. they do not know how to prompt their own model.
>>8330491https://files.catbox.moe/jwhmc3.png
>>8330497Do you mind to box one of yours?
>>8330476based
>>8330498thanks fellow feet enjoyer
>>8330501https://files.catbox.moe/7p30ey.pngthis one's euler a but i switched to dpm++ 2m recently because it feels sharper I also personally recommend the itercomp merge (i think reoe posted it on civitai) and maybe using a 1x de-jpegging upscaler if you're getting artifacty gens
Another LoRA related question for you anons,I was curating a dataset for an artist, when I noticed said artist is using adversial noise/glaze in their newer images, which is really noticeable (pic related, zoomed in on some clothing), and I fear this will affect the quality of my LoRA. My question is, is this something I should/should not worry about during training? Would it be wise to find an upscaler model that can remove the worst of it from said images, before training on them? I found this upscaler model that seems pretty good at doing this from openmodeldb:https://openmodeldb.info/models/1x-RGB-max-DenoiseOr are there any better upscaler models you anons would recommend?
>>8330505Ah, I see, the hands still fucked up alongside the other things...
>>8330509Also to add to this, this pattern of noise can be found all over the entire image. And it's definitely not a style choice because the artists older images does not have this.
>>8330510it's SDXL
>>8330513There are a bunch of SDXL images in this thread without that.
>>8330480https://files.catbox.moe/qyikdf.pnghttps://www.mediafire.com/folder/67rkchb8rps6t/ao6336https://www.mediafire.com/folder/ehf2xbdzi33gv/unarsitepretty sure I was supposed to retrain the unarsite lora with different settings but never did since I got sidetracked. uploaded that version though(but it might disappear in a day or two and replaced with an updated version)
>>8330505same anon. lol, I was about to prompt this tsugumomo artist. Thanks for the box.
>>8330497Thanks, anon. It’s a little better, but still not super great (look at the hands). I wonder what happened. Is this version just a dud?
>>8330521Currently there is no better local model than Noob eps 0.5
>>83305210.5 eps is the only good version of noob, unfortunately
*eps 1.1
oops, meant to say vpred 4.0
eps 1.1111111112 soon guys
>eps noob>colors don't pop>vpred noob>friedUgh
>>8330527That’s hilarious.
was previously using 4x_IllustrationJaNai_V1_ESRGAN_135k and 4x_foolhary_remacri on auto1111, would you advise another for reforge?
>>8330509that won't do anything. adversarial noise is snake oil
>>8330518You don't need 400M for a single style. Consider how many styles the model already knows and it's only 7GB.
>>8330509Why even ask? Worst case you train for an hour and it's noticeable. They you just retrain after fixing those images.anyway imo unless it's like a third of the dataset it won't have any effect.
seeking input on artist, want nice shading on cum and shiny body
>>8330509The only good part about 4chan vae is that it will fuck all that shit.
>>8330542that fucking arm...
>>8330465boox?
>>8330536I still use remacri these days
>>8330509A surface blur in your favourite image editing program at low values will clear most of it.
>>8330509ive used manhwa null to preprocess a dataset with heavy jpeg artifacts with good results
>>8330539cool.don't download it then.
>>8330546https://files.catbox.moe/4hd6om.png
>>8330539You may need it for consistent style that's not very similar to the model's default style. Also, larger loras (or, better, locon extracts) can stabilize the base model at basic concepts.
>>8330540>anyway imo unless it's like a third of the dataset it won't have any effect.even if it's 100% of the dataset it won't make a difference because images are resized during training to match your target training resolution and then are encoded by the VAE.
>>8330539I am a fire.inc glazerman knows what he's doing, arguably some of the best loras I've used, specifically the muji onewhen he starts training 2-6.5GB then riot, 400M is nothing. some of the controlnets I use are 2.5GBthe only way gloras get smaller is by snipping layers post-training since resizing isn't a thing.
>>8330391added "sunny bitch" to the mega Not bad for only 25 images without cropping,let me know what you think of it as I might retrain it with some extra cropping bullshitery if it aint that flexible
>>8330547alright, thanks.
>>8330544Yeah. I like the definition style wise, but her tricep doesn't make anatomical sense
>>8330563>6 fingersso this is the power of local and loras...
>>8330401https://files.catbox.moe/mk07o3.pngim a lil late
>>8330543>4chan vaeCould someone repost?
>>8330558A controlnet is not a lora.Back when nai first leaked people were training perfectly good styles using embeddings that were only a few megabytes and suddenly you "need" half a fucking gigabyte to do the same.
comfyfags how do I remove those, the number+node's origin
>>8330558>the only way gloras get smaller is by snipping layers post-training since resizing isn't a thing.That reminds me the anytest guy made thishttps://huggingface.co/2vXpSwA7/iroiro-lora/blob/main/sdxl_lora_elemental_tune.py
you only need keep tokens if you have an activation tag right?
>>8330564I should really check the image before I upload it
>>8330567yeah man, 100% of embeddings produced pretty shit outputsI've trained everything from embeds -> hypernets -> dreambooth -> loraI've directly worked with lora layers, editing out blocks and tweaking tensor valuesI'm familiar with what they are and what they can do.I look back at some of the embeds I've trained and they're dogwater compared to loras.I would suggest stripping the glora down, since resizing isn't possible with current tools. I've previously nuked like 60-80% of a glora's size by just cutting blocks, you can probably do the same here.example:https://archiveofsins.com/h/thread/8142246/#8142916can't find the original post but it doesn't matter.you can usually cut a fuckton of data and actually improve outputs.
>>8330570arguably might not need it even thenunless you always prompt your activation first
>>8330574I dont like style loras with activation tags so I was curious.
>>8330572im sorry for being mean good job fixing it
>>8330570i use it for wildcards
>>8330570Depends.If you mean `keep n tokens` then yeah, you may still want to keep the tags if you bother to caption your data in the way the base model was trained on.If you mean caption dropout - you probably want to keep artists, series, characters tags.
>>8330558>I am a fire.inc glazerI don't know what the fuck this means but it sounds like something a gay fetish group would call their members
>>8330570I keep the first one on a character im training and move the activation tag to first, but thats it
>>8330573Best will always be finetuning and extracting lorahttps://github.com/KohakuBlueleaf/LyCORIS/blob/main/tools/extract_locon.py
is there a nyalia version for vpred?
>>8330582And that's exactly what it is, you are correct.
>>8330586Just use (ai generated:1.6)?
>>8330586>>8330588i found it on the rentry
can someone explain to me what the issue is with nyalia, genuinely curious
>>8330582you sound jealous anon>>8330584yeah, full model tuning does the best job of training the whole model
>>8330567have you stopped to consider they're not really being made for public release and are just released due to interest from others?or, to put it another way, have you considered that they're not being made for you so your considerations of what is and isn't "needed" are not a priority?
>>8330580>If you mean caption dropout - you probably want to keep artists, series, characters tags.use keep tokens separator and wildcards for this
>>8330590>what’s wrong with a sloppy Lora trained on distilled slop?Tell me what's good about it without sounding mad.
>>8330580To be honest, I’m not completely sure what you’re talking about. I’m referring to the Keep Tokens option in the Subset Args of Easy Training scripts. What I usually do is, if I have an activation tag for a LoRA, like for a character or a concept, I set the keep tokens to 1. But for my style LoRAs, I don’t like using activation tags, so I set it to 0.I’m not sure if there’s a better way to handle it when I don’t use activation tags, or if I’m just overcomplicating things by avoiding them. I could deal with using activation tags if I really need to, but I’d rather not.
>>8330591>you sound jealous anonI actually hoped someone would tell me what it is. Then I can decide whether I want to be jealous or not.
>>8330576no worries anon, if people don't criticize other peoples stuff then that's a surefire way to stay stagnate in whatever you do
>>8330596Loras trained on AI outputs tend to be stronger and more style stabilizing even at lower weights. Of course given that the AI outputs it is trained on isn't some piece of aomslop with fried hands and faces but something the aifag put at least a bit of effort in.
>>8330600anon promotes model collapse
oh no no no noobbros we are being made fun of againhttps://litter.catbox.moe/ri85ek.png
>>8330568comfygods I beg for your help
>>8330593Have you stopped to consider that I was merely offering simple advice and that it's not my fault that people started getting defensive over their needlessly large loras?
>>8330600Can this be avoided by using outputs of a different basemodel, or a different architecture altogether?
>>8330599I get the intent but the bubbles look silly, is that with trying something like cum_bubble? Like she lubricated her mouth with soapy water before giving head.
>>8330608>Like she lubricated her mouth with soapy water before giving headI thought everyone did that
>>8330604If it's not released it doesn't exist
>>8330604Release new illustrious versions or shut the fuck up.
>>8330604oh no when illustrious dropping locally again?
>>8330605I've used comfy for a year and never saw that. Assume you get rid of it the same way you enabled it.
>>8330604is angel being held hostage? why not release these superior illustriouses?
>>8330615nta but did you update during that year?It appeared at some point for me too but I don't really care.
>>8330607Usually people train on NAI outputs for those loras.
>>8330604I was willing to give him a pass but he's a fag doing these comparisons and not A. leaking the v1 or 2. at least saying when or how they'll come outTheir fucking documentation says up to v2 so where the fuck is it, if it at least turns into a nai-clone for online gen and selling it so be it but I can mock it full time then.
>>8330620Yeah, once. For Flux support.
>>8330615>>8330620Yeah they appeared after updating :/
>>8330604god I wish angel would leak the model again
>>8330617hostage to their own retardation possibly, or more likely its just an excuse, he said that its too much effort to write the report every month or something
>>8330617because he doesn't want to get fired and his superiors seem like idiots
I see there's a noob .6 vpred now. Did they also fuck this one up like they have the eps 1.0?
>>8330604>"HAHA LOOK HOW DUMB THIS MODEL IS!!">"uh, release my superior model? u-uh I can't!!"
>>8330568should be able to set it in the manager menu, badge: None to disable it
>>8330634Not like 1.0, they fucked it up in a new and exciting way.
>>8330634bro your noob vpred 0.6s?
>>8330604Why do they even bother training a model that someone will later have to fix by training it on e621? danbooru tags are so anemic
>>8330637Do tell
>>8330636thx!
>>8330639based fart on prey enjoyer.
they're also missing sankakucomplex and rule34 tagging bros, tech is still not there yet, maybe in 4-5 years.
>>8330558>man knows what he's doingI would say I have a concept of knowing what I'm doing.A bit of that is imposter syndrome talking since while I absolutely do actually know a lot more than most I also intentionally keep myself separated from as much of the ML autism as I can and focus more on just making things look less bad.>>8330598while I don't like posting social shit here at all, fire.inc is just the handle I(the guy that does stupid shit with GLoRA's) use to post AI shit on pixiv/twitter(well, twitter is @firedotinc).
>>8330641more contrast and color rangebut it can run out of controllow-skill prompters lean on rescale and apg to try and force it back in line, which doesnt work very well
>>8330624im the original shitposter but honestly it kinda looks like shit as well, only thing that can save us is new architecture
>>8330559breeding
>>8330649Wow. Such an organic post, sis.Subscribed, donated and told all my friends about you.
>>8330651kurumuz will save us with his custom arch he engineered himself, total NAI trvst
It's nyover isn't it
>>8330656If so I'll start a patreon just to pay for the NAI bsub
>>8330628he would have to look for new career since this model is too perfect that nobody can make new model that can beat it.
>>8330662how does the business obtain revenue without releasing anything ever?
>>8330664NAI
>>8330664Grant grifting
>>8330559thanks anon, works well aroud 0.8-1
If I wanted to train alora to actually share here, or on Civit. Would you prefer it be trained on base illu, eps 0.5, eps 0.75, vpred 0.5 or what?
>>8330666NAI released a service, angel releases nothin at allnothin at allNOTHIN AT ALL
>>8330669Or what
>>8330604His illustrious examples are equally shitty tho? What did he mean by this?
>>8329878>>8329890>>8330259>>8330455>>8330493Any boxes for these? (also nice kirari)
>>8330640nice
>>8330672Maybe it's more apparent in the fullres image. Like this they just look like seed variants of the same model.
Jordach status?
>>8330650what do high-skill prompters do
>>8330669if your lora isn't weak as shit then training on base illustrious is best since civitai doesnt have a noob category and you'll get a shit tone of people asking why it doesn't work on their shitmix#54213 plus its compatible with all illustrious/noob versions that arent vpred (assuming they aren't doras)If you're training vpred then train on the latest version
>>8330684prompt good
>>8330684They use pony with a lora and color correct in post.
>>8330678sexy
>>8330670except the only good local anime model we've ever had i guessnoob only "works" because it was trained on top of it
>>8330683its over
>>8330399we need Epic to chime in
>>8330697oh no...
>>8330697is this a pun for how every result was toast
imagine if noob was trained on base sdxl
>>8330697what did he mean by this
>>8330705They'd fucked even harder.
>>8330697Well, this is quite a healthy reaction to half a year of effort and 10k dollars spent on literally nothing. No results at all. Is there any legal obligation for him to return the donations?
>>8330706So he spent $4k for training a shitty 1.5?
>>8330705Imagine if noob was trained on top of nai3...
>>8330705I wish it were just so it was obvious immediately how fucking retarded their methodology was and that they needed to scrap everything and start the fuck over.
>>8330705they would have trained it on cosxl or terminus if they weren't fucking retarded
>>8330711fursuits can be expensive you know
>>8330678booox?
>>8330713idk, noob is still the best model in spite of mistakenly opening the TE for training. i prefer vpred 0.6 over the rest of the field
>>8330596Good colors and less mangled anatomy
>>8330719people keep repeating this about the TE, but im thinking it just accelerated whatever fuck ups they already had, rather than being the cause
>>8330718https://litter.catbox.moe/mss2ff.png
>>8330697Not surprised
Anons don't box their stuff by default because then they don't get (You)s
As someone that know nothing about it, is it really a good idea to keep training in hope things get fixed with more training instead of starting over with better settings?
>be me>not feeling any of their fuck ups>happy
>>8330730no such thing as starting over at this point, their compute time is almost over
>>8330724nah, noob was clean linear improvement over illu 0.1 from early access to 0.5quirks crept up on 0.75, and more crept up on the vpred transition, but it's still been net improvement each version
>>8330730As someone who also knows nothing about it, you'd have to first accept things are broken. And I don't think they're there yet. Then figure out what's wrong with the current settings. Then try out new ones with no guarantee things will turn out any better.
>>8330737yeah I know, I mean hypothetically
>>8330729i box almost everything i deem fit for posting
>>8330740now this is just copium
>>8330740early access noob already had extremely fucked color ranges lol
>>8330668That pose is such a bitch for the couch fellatio, tried it earlier and I couldn't get the guy to face forward and the girl to be laying across the couch sucking him off.
>>8330742i mean they could have avoided most of their mistakes in the first place by simply fucking reading the nai3 and illustrious papers
>>8330745what is there even to cope about? if i ever see a better checkpoint ill switch without hesitation. there is no investment other than bytes of hard disk.
>>8330697he picked up the pen anyway
So is Jordach saving local yes or no
>>8330751is that a censored tongue?
>>8330719eps regressed after .5 and even .5 has some quirks that has me contemplating going back to base illustrious.>>8330724they did a lot of things really wrong. Trying to cram e621 and a wildly different tagging system on top was beyond asinine. Doing shit like that is fine if you're doing the full finetune from scratch and don't care or want much of anything of the original model to be recallable but it's clear they were trying to lean on illustrious really heavily and they just kind of fucked that up.And then there's their dropout... "strategy" and that they didn't actually refine their dataset at all. And that they just completely fucking fried the TE and then... kept frying the TE. And these are just things we know about. There could have also been a number of other fuckups they're not mentioning anywhere.
>>8330755He can't even save himself.
>>8330753loras and style mixes>>8330759what are some of those quirks? I skipped it for 0.75 and it at least feels easier to use than base.
>>8330762based chadmix god
>>8330092
Some artist styles are so fucked on vpredjyt looks nothing jyt for example
>>8330773Worse than base? Most artists look weak or weird on base, not sure that's vpred fault.
>>8330762im going to be honest with youi havent used loras other than silly memes since illu 0.1 came outthe base checkpoints know all the characters and styles well enoughthe low light illu/noob lora was nice but it's obsolete on noob vpredand the vast majority of mixes have been slopped up regressions because basic stabilization is all the base checkpoints really need, and smoothFT and itercomp merges provided that in short order
>>8330775what base?
>>8330216I don't, I just delete them after they're a few days old
>>8330762.5 can have some weird anatomy issues that seem to manifest mostly on landscape resolutions, also mostly on "from side" viewpoints. Though illustrious might very well have that issue, too.It can also exhibit some odd behavior if you're prompting for specific kemomimi features where you'll have to put furry into negatives, lest you want furry dicks.there's probably more than I can bother to think of at the moment. Don't get me wrong, .5 eps still has a lot of stuff trained significantly 'better' than base illustrious can offer, which is good - it's just also still a pretty flawed model. And eps got significantly worse with .75 and higher.
>>8330772Did you edit the picture on the TV? I tried forever to generate images on a TV and have my character stare at it but it went terribly.
>>8330775yeah I suppose that could be it, I don't have base noob 1.0 so I can't really compare
>>8330775Jyt was pretty solid in eps, I think I've tested it once in a mix but didn't see it really pop out, unlike the colors
>>8330738Just giving approval as usual.
>>8330778>try harada takehito, looks like a rough draft>try mikoyan, looks like /aco/ maleface>try kagami hirotaka, looks like his early art from 20 years ago>don't try wife because she has 3 imagesI guess maybe it depends on the kind of styles you want. Good for you, anyway.
>>8330216i stick them in a numbered archive folder when i think i need to cull thumbnails in my default folder, and then those eventually get deleted because i dont really care to look back on old slop
>>8330791I still bake style LORAs for this reason lol
>>8330784Yep the TV is inpainted from this base gen:https://files.catbox.moe/ngxddu.png
>>8330793Fucked up tattoo but still based for posting Kuro.
>>8330751Maskbox?
>>8330800Neat, I mean for a base gen that's still really good. Mine wouldn't cooperate at all.
>>8330804very biteable nipple, what artist is that?
The Obsession vpred is pretty goodhttps://civitai.com/models/820208
>>8330805https://files.catbox.moe/7oodit.png
>(huge penis, veiny penis, girthy penis:1.2)
>>8330821>(based:2.5)
>(very awa:5.0)
>>8330821large testicles, veiny balls, hairy, throbbing
>>8330821That's a stylistic choice. Maybe don't focus on dicks so much. I'm more worried about the leftover noise in the shower water, and her melted eyes.
>>8330821large insertion, impossible fit, (hyper genitals),
>>8330833deep penetration, excessive pussy juice, stomach bulge
>>8330818>Dataset:50k AI-generated images from Aibooru and Pixivhello slopness my old friendive come to prompt with you again
>>8330821(bloodshot eyes, rolling eyes, dashed eyes, one eye closed:1.2)
If I could ask a very stupid question, does it matter if I store the SD files on HDD vs SDD? Or is this one of the things where it doesn't really matter?
>>8330838I recognize that mizumizu.
>>8330839i put each one on its own microsd card and pretend im swapping training simulations in the matrix
>>8330838please catbox
>>8330421lovely work
>>8330725thanks bwo
>>8330818more proof
>>8330852>>8330846/h/?
>>8330856yes
>>8330363just crank that shit up>(cum on body, facial, cum on chest, excessive cum, cum:1.65)
>>8330833stomach bulge, paizuri
>>8330856/h/ere you go
Any black man in?
>>8330867kanabox?
Testing a 0.5 prompt on 0.5 vpred with the new artist mix I'm trying
>>8330867sexy
>>8330873savedhow did you make it 2048x2048 without it getting deformed? whenever I try to upscale it ruins the pic
>>8330852I will get you for indecent /e/xposure if you don't cough up the box
>>8330875Had to inpaint the handhttps://files.catbox.moe/n9jo86.png
>>8330844https://files.catbox.moe/tlqyci.png
>>8330854it just works
>>8330879not sure, i thought everyone was doing it.heres the catbox for my settingshttps://files.catbox.moe/q3ueky.png
>>8330883how horrifying
>>8330879res at 1024x1024 and upscale by 2??
>>8330882is that supposed to be dashed_eyes? looks strange
>>8330839In my experience putting the models on a HDD makes inference times skyrocket so I would recommend using an SSD
does anyone know how tf do I prune my own loras/controlnets?
i need a wildcard file of every yuri character in anime (and video games)
>>8330858Oh you put the weight in cum itself and then group them with the other tags, yeah that makes sense, I had them all separate and not grouped and then would do like 1.5 on like bukkake and pray.
>>8330891Not sure if that’s even possible, but for normal models, you need to store a full checkpoint with a special wrapper for that.
>>8330886and don't upscale latent (unless you know what you're doing)and don't go too high on denoise (unless you know what you're doing)etc.
apparently I managed to learn everything in the webui except for inpainting, is there a inpainting guide for retards I can follow that will show me what the prompt looks like each step of the way? I'm confused between tacking on more tokens on top of my prompt and wiping it clean and only prompt for what I want
>>8330884>hitobento loraoh shit me too
>>8330895"grouping" doesn't matter, it just applies that weight at the end to everything in those bracketsequivalent to doing 1.65 on each of them
>>8330900You don't really need to prompt anything for small inpaints with low denoise.
What is the best LoRa making tutorial so far?
>>8330905https://rentry.org/lora-is-not-a-finetune
>>8330887To be honest, dashed eyes doesn't seem to work that well most of the time. That's bloodshot eyes making the eyes look weird.
>>8330900gen base res, don't use hiresfix, ~832x1216inpaint masked only, 1024x102430-100 padding pixels, soft inpainting, mask blur 10-20denoise 0.4-0.6set other gen params as per txt2img like CFG/sampler/schedule/stepsalways randomise inpaint seedand of course, rough sketch your change in an image editor to make it extra reliable.
>>8330885right is base noob vpred btw I seriously implore everyone to try the obsession version of vpred
>>8330888>>8330839I had them on an SSD then as I ran on space I moved them to an HDD and the only difference I notices was the load tiem of the model, generatin time once it's loaded is the same. I only notice when doing xyz plots and it has to switch models or refining / upscaling with a different model.Now I would like to have my mopst used models in teh SSD and the rest on the HDD, but I have yet to find a way to configure forge/Auto/reForge in that wayt, didn't try with comfy.Currently all my UIs share all the models using symlinks, I guess I could add simlinks to those specific models from teh SSD into the models folder...
>>8330906still not a single 1:1 comparison to be seen one month later
>>8330910>Dataset:50k AI-generated images from Aibooru and PixivNo thanks. But that means more for you, right? Enjoy!
>>8330903That's a neat trick, thanks! Just a little time saver. That being said what stops a person from just putting () around their entire prompt and then putting 1.65 at the end?
>>8330911Symlink/Junction
>>8330911this would make more sense, as once the model is loaded, it no longer has anything to do with the storage drive on a hardware level as it's essentially working off a copy of the file being kept in the vram
>>8330914So what? If the results are better then surely that is all that matters?
>>8330906nigga stfu
>>8330906>Bare minimum VRAM requirements>8GB OR 12GBNooooo, my dreams of making a BlueGirl LORA just got dashed...I only have a measly 6GB (1060GTX) and I've ruled out getting a 5060GTX because the 5 series doesn't come with enough VRAM unless you pay premiums...I had 47 manually approved pictures to train a lora on so far...I weep.
>>8330915My gut feeling is that it wouldn't do anything and weights are probably relative to the rest of the prompt.
>>8330922Makes sense, someone should test it though. What if you made one prompt that was junk like 0.1 to balance the 1.65? Aha
>>8330916Yeah I guess, I'll give it a try.
>>8330921Dont pay attention to them theyve been trying to convince people thats the best way of training without showing any proofif you dont have a decent amount of VRAM then you could ask an anon to train a LORA for you just make sure the dataset is uploaded and tagged properly
>>8330921just train a lora instead of retard snake oil
>>8330881appreciated, looks great
>A1111, Forge, reForgeWhich are you guys using? I'm used to ComfyUI but was thinking of checking on these others. The spaghetti to do certain things is getting tiresome.
is vectorscope snake oil or does someone have settings for the comfy node they actually like?
>>8329742Remove >>>/vg/aids link fro the OP.Dead general.
>>8330933it's not snake oil but you need to know what you want out of it going in. it's good for color correcting styles that are too warm/cool or getting a little bit of extra contrast out of eps
>>8330928>>8330929Dreams alive again! Any guide on how to train a LORA?Also I know the hands are a messed up and gonna try to fix later but look how cute she is, that expression heals my soul. Need to keep my hopes alive.
>>8330939you can't on a 10 series card with 6gb of vram but occasionally people will train datasets that get posted itt
>>8330936It still has posting. What do you mean?
>>8330940Damn, still a bit of a hurdle then. Well I'll keep that in mind and keep genning consistent pics of her.
Anyone try Jnodes? After installing it, I can't get old workflows to work correctly anymore. They produce completely different images. I don't see why simply just installing some nodes would mess up workflows that have nothing to do with those custom nodes.
>>8330916The concert is about to start!>>8330926It works nicely adding symlinks to the checkpoints stored in the SSD.
>>8330946bRap battle
>>8330937ok I cranked the numbers up past 2, interesting what it does to the noise in the early step previews
>>8330944you don't need more than 50 images for a character with a simple design
>>8330921>making a BlueGirl LORAOr just put words in the prompt? This isn't some super complex overdesigned gachaslop frilly combat maid shark tail dozen belts and zippers shit. It's literally just 1girl, medium hair, two-tone hair.
>>8330946That is not how you drop the bass!
>>8330951ellen is hot and you have bad taste
>>8330950What kind of photo's do I need to gen specifically? A bunch of seflies? A bunch of backshots? Different poses? Different hentai situations?>>8330951Of course there are far more complicated but I find myself having to put so many little details into prompt just to have a chance at generating her the same way every time otherwise it's not her. Even having her hair curl in the opposite direction really changes the feel of the character for me.
>>8330951You're trying to reason with an autist it won't work
>>8330949Nice. Though I'm more of a vaginal man myself to be honest.
>>8330955you want some variety in terms of image composition and you probably want mostly solo images
>>8330956I'm willing to take genuine feedback because I'm learning but the plan seems very flawed to me since to keep replicated the same design, even if visually normal, seems to eat up a lot of prompt token. Especially if you try to define details like clothing, accessories, eye details like pink eye iris and all kinds of other things like breast size so it stays consistent.
>>8330954Who?
>>8330959Alright thanks I'll keep that in mind and try to gen 360 shots with and without her skirt on.
>>8330962the shark
>>8330945Even after uninstalling it, my ComfyUI just does not reproduce old outputs anymore.Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
>>8330961start by downloading adetailer instead of doing blurry face gen
>Check my short list wildcard for characters>Most of them are just brown hair girls
>>8330968Oh. I don't play her game. I'm not a fan of the scalie faggotry and jrpg protag bullshit clothing, but I like the hair.
>>8330977a tail doesn't make her scalie anymore than a catgirl with just ears and tail is furry
>>8330972Aight I'll try that, thanks.
>>8330981How come you can see the back frills here, shouldn't they be above her tail?
>>8330839No difference besides time it takes to load the model.Once the model is loaded into the GPU, inference speed is the same.
>>8330981Catgirl with both ears and tail IS furry. Scalies and furfags belong in >>>/b/
Do people unironically still use their own gpu to make lora? You know sites like Civit, tensor, seart, etc literally let you do it for free without frying your own rigs to a crisp right?
>>8330993Or you could simply use NovelAI.
>hmm maybe I should try out reforge>try installing it>it downloads some kind of shitty model I never asked for>ok fine whatever let me just boot it up>it crashesSigh.
>>8330993if this is bait then you did a pretty good job at imitating the tone of a retarded thirdie, good job
>>8331002agreed but was the slur really necessary?
>>8331005i don't think thirdie is a slur?
>>8330900https://rentry.org/fluffscaler-inpaintthis is by far the best guide for inpainting i've seen, just ignore the furry shit and go step by step following the examples
Goodnight guys, have a good day / night.
>>8331012put the box in the bag before you decide to leave
>>8330773lol, retard.
>>8331002Explain why is wrong without trying to sell snake oil or sounding mad.
>>8330906Did someone tried to bake with>Optimi optimizers, implement kahan_sumfrom there? It's always washed out, very bad results compared to adamw or prodigy, but still fries out if lr is set too high
How do I do a simple xy plot on comfy? Like, seed 1,2,3?
>>8331033easier to run a loop and run imagemagick on the output imagesefficiency nodes has decent XY functionality but isnt compatible with a lot of the newer model autism
>>8331034any examples on how I'd set that up? thx in advance
how so how long do you image gens take these days?My 1152x896 upscaled 1.5 to img2img workflow takes 35~50 seconds depending on sampler with 3090.Not sure if I should be looking to update drivers or whatever
>>8331036my rx 6800 takes around 50 seconds to upscale 1.5x. Your card should be faster, check a non sde sampler
>>8331033just use forge comfy is a meme
>>8331034Nta but do you have a script or guide for doing this with imagemagick? I definitely would not recommend Efficiency Nodes. And afaik the only other option is one where you have to set up all the gens yourself and just nodle finished images into the XY node.
>>8331039It's a fun meme though.
>>8331039no bro comfy is better I just gotta spend some hours figuring it out
>called comfy because its supposed to be "comfy">actually harder to use than other UIs because of its blender node system which is a wall for that program as wellwhat the fuck
can i post my perfect opossumachine gen even though it has a single (1) nipple or will i get a vacation?
>>8331045It's "Comfy's UI" really, he just named it after his online handle afaik.
>>8331045>ComfyUI>It's not comfy>Automatic1111>It's not automatic
>>8331048with catbox (and metadata) why not
>>8331045But the noodles, bro. You haven't considered the noodles.
is machamp /d/
>>8330505>muk \(pokemon\) in negsHypno bros.. we won.
>>8331051>Forge>can't even make a knife>swarmUI>there's only one>Foocus>microsleeps while typing the o
>>8331058That forehead is designed for tic tac toe
>>8330463>>8330476>>8330599>>8330804boxes please? very sexy gens
>>8330804acheron box plz
>>8331058Honestly, I hope all of you "I'm better than a catbox" cunny posters get banned, especially when it's this realistic b-tier shit.
>>8331058based
>>8331055isn't that hyper?
>>8331058The catbox script recently got updated to shoe catbox links as pictures, bro. You don't need to risk it like this.Also, inpaint that hand, You're giving us a bad rap.
>>8331055pokephilia in general is /d/, yes theres hypno in the thread, I never said it was an enforced rule.
>>8331049well I feel like a retard, still a shit UI.
>>8331069Well hypno is basically a yellow orc, the rule is probably meant against animals.
>>8331072Pokemon aren't animals. They are pokemon.
start posting gardevoir and see what happens
>>8331067>You're giving us a bad rap.
>>8331072>Well hypno is basically a yellow orcBased. kek'd pretty good.
>>8331073The rule is meant against pople like you then. Who would abuse a loophole to post bestiality.
>>8331074>>8331082Gardevoir gets slapped on /d/ of all things too so it's just dealer's choice with jannies on who gets slapped.
>>8331058I like lolis as much as the next guy but this style, body proportions, or whatever it is, I don't like it. It makes me uncomfortable.
>>8331084It's supposed to. Too close to realism.
if it's drawn porn its /h/, death to rules
>>8331084Does "the next guy" like loli? I thought it was a pretty niche fetish, like milfs or tomboys.
>>8331085thats just how opossumachine looks
>>8331089The perverted always project their perversions onto other people. No, nobody likes loli shit except for a few very vocal future sex offenders.
>>8331084when they have the slight chub that's reminiscent of toddlers is where I draw the line honestly, since all babies just look vile at that stage
>>8331089>>8331098Danbooru tag counts1girl: 5.9Mloli: 144kmilf -> mature female: 33ktomboy -> 8.4k
>>8331100Not like anybody out there tagging >J.C.>J.K.>college-aged>middle-aged>elderlyThe tagging system sucks in general but it's a borderline impossible thing to change it at this point
>>8331100>mature femaleThis tag has no meaning. A woman who is not a loli (child) is by definition mature. So the real ratio of normal people to mentally ill sickos is 40:1. You are the minority, and we don't like minorities around these parts.
>>8331103I'm pretty sure you're just gonna get a shit bunch of schoolgirls which is by western purity tests, very much pedo
>>8331105The US is not the west.
>>8331098>>8331089
>>8331111it's not, but it's definitely where all these "holy shit this sicko needs to be hanged" attitudes come from when it comes to fucking drawings (or decoded latents in this case)
>>8331103>>8331100We should only be counting nsfw posts for the ratio since loli is a nsfw tag. sfw posts are tagged "child".12:1Which fetish tag could have more results than loli? Even "feet" is only at 96k among nsfw posts and that probably includes many images where feet aren't the focus.
"""loli""" posters are a scourge on the entire anime community, fucking embarrassment
>>8331120umm nyo
>>8331126No I agree with him. Sorry, but you lose this one.
>ntrMIXso this is the power of...
>>8331112oh its my pedophile friend how nice
>>8331131NTRMix lora replaced the nyalia lora recently.
>>8331129This is the art style that takes you down the pipeline to real children, stop at once.
>load up ntrmix 2.1>load up ntrmix dlc lora>napkin box & lotion bottle on deckIt's gennin' n goonin' time, bros.
>>8331143Hell yeah bud
>>8331143Serious question, are lotions a cutfag thing or do some unmutilated people use it too? Seems completely unnecessary.
>train character lora on illustrious>it's more accurate on the shitmix noob 1.0 mergemakes sense to me
>>8331146outside of shitposting, probably not but definitely if you're using a tenga, ona, etc.
Thx to whoever shared that suwacrabb toml. Shit took forever and ate all my vram, but the result is amazing
>>8331143Im still on pony tho
>>8330919Ideally you should post what you prompted if you do grids or comparisons. Genuinely useless without knowing if you prompted for shit and got it or if left truly did follow it better.
>>8331151Lora training settings? Please link.
>>8331157box?
>>8331165https://files.catbox.moe/bqg53z.jpeg
>>8331165https://files.catbox.moe/n3hxnn.png
>>8331156https://litter.catbox.moe/seotij.toml
>>8331171>tfw she wanted it in the other hole
>>8331171homubox me up
>>8331084Her upper head looks like testicles.
>>8331149girl needs to hurry up and start sucking on that cock
https://files.catbox.moe/rms8t8.png
Bwos, I can't wait to try out the vpred 0.65s(aved local)...
>>8331182What if she doesn't want? Is her consent of no concern to you?
why does adding the word handjob to the prompt also try to give her cleavage
>>8331186prompt:>questionable consent, irrumatio, forced oralby the time the cock is out, consent no longer matters
Honestly the new catbox update makes it so there's no functionality difference in loli posting if you just upload catbox links as they embed anyway with 4chan X. Pretty slick.
>>8331180https://files.catbox.moe/nu0d6i.png
I would never force my 1girls to do something they don't want.
>>8331193much love
>>8331193Yeah now I know who to report without having to click the links.
>>8331194This, i only rape them or amputee them with their consent
>>8331192/hdg/ is healinggo fuck yourself jannies
>>8331199Now if only we could be racist again...
>>8331200Now if only people could stop posting bestiality >>8331171
>>8331194I'll only prompt pov, cowgirl and let my 1girls decide if they want to put it in, in the latent space
>>8331201Dykes are humans too you bigot.
https://files.catbox.moe/7u1yit.png
he's so insistent on terrorizing these threads...somebody please stop him
>>8331215they are good posts so no
>>8331067but the GIMP pepper is sovl
when will she get an anime
Whyh is iotkmaenrae mkr,f sa
>>8331219Becausdj oi thej korqs
>>8331219si't fjrpahz
>>8331218After "I want to see you embarrassed" gets one
https://files.catbox.moe/92sc31.png
>>8331226>mouth pull
>>8331228Even if the model ignored it that time image still turned out nice.
>>8331151Feel like I could tweak the settings a bit more but I'm glad it was helpful to you, anon
>>8331234It wasn't ignored, he's mouth pulling her cheek bone.
>>8331060the metadata is already in the image but here you go you lazy foolhttps://files.catbox.moe/x4r72b.pngSunny Bitch lora can be found here>>8330369
>>8331192We won.
https://files.catbox.moe/i4lvfc.png
>>8331251should have the heel on his face so he could sniff it
Anyone tried Kohya's hires fix? It doesn't seem to work with the samplers I like using. On reforge.
>>8331252twinbox?
>>8331258https://files.catbox.moe/yuea5e.png
>>8331264danke
when will we get to train loras on a model that isn't fucking garbage
>>8331275break into analtan's headquarters and leak nai
maybe im retarded but im getting the black box of doom trying to get vpred 0.6 working on reforge. I copied another anons catbox too.not sure what im missing, I have the advanced model sample for reforge on, and set to disccrete and v prediction is enabled
>>8331282which catbox are you trying to replicate?
>>8331282You shouldn't need to enable advanced model sampling as of vpred 0.5 but I don't think that's why you would be getting black images
>>8331282what are your settings? this image was generated with reforge and vpred 0.6 without issues
>>8331215I wonder who?
>>8331285pretty much any from above. when I try to do this anons >>8331226 I get a TypeError: 'NoneType' object is not iterable or a blackbox for others. I am on a the most recent version of the reforge dev branch
i like nyalia :(
>>8331290you just like to stir shit without any appropriate reason, huh?
>>8331214Based
>>8331297using slop loras isn't an appropriate reason? might as well load up the expressiveH lora as well sir
>>8331297Nyack nyack nyack.. nyalia nyever~
Fuck it, no more sharing my metadata. I'm really tired of being discriminated for what I use in my mixes. You assholes don't deserve them anyway.
>>8331302as long as resulting image doesn't look like disney ponyslop what's the problem with it?
>>8331306Based spiteful anon.
>>8331306yeah, some of these bitch made anons can't get off their dunning kruger curve just because they got a little taste of this technology and start generalizing second hand knowledge onto everything
>>8331294Huh, no clue. I haven't updated my reforge dev in a while though since people were having issues with the new stuff.https://files.catbox.moe/pun2i1.png
>>8331306>>8331313I'm glad nogens are getting a stern talking to.
>clown is still on his nogen tirade after repeatedly getting clowned on for daysfatherless behavior
>>8331325>>8331294>>8331226oops, will use catbox directly insteadhttps://files.catbox.moe/gvy96u.png
>>8331317>>8331325im not sure either. I see this error in my cmd windowRuntimeError: setStorage: sizes [], strides [], storage offset -9223372036854774808, and itemsize 2 requiring a storage size of 2002 are out of bounds for storage of size 2000setStorage: sizes [], strides [], storage offset -9223372036854774808, and itemsize 2 requiring a storage size of 2002 are out of bounds for storage of size 2000not sure what it means tho
dragging school idols into back alleys for personal relief(god that manga ending fucking sucked)
>Yeah "we" totally clowned on him XDDDDStop, don't embarrass yourself any more
>>8331330why is it so fried?
nyalia is good
>>8331321Why don't I ever see anyone here making clowngirls having sex? Isn't clussy kind of cute?
>>8331335ntrmix lora for 2.1 replaced it
if the self apparent nature of profile clicking behavior and where it belongs isn't obvious to you, you're on the wrong side of the bell curvewe've already even put it into words went over your dense head, but I guess the rock dust that make up your brain should be given a break
>>8331337you mean chadmix vpred 0.5 locon extract
You wouldn't a roach.. right?
>>8331339I thought it was a dora?
>>8331329 (me)changed my sched from yours >>8331317 to automatic and got a blackbox, heres the black catbox if anyone can see anything from it. I have the same issue on 0.5 vpred too.https://files.catbox.moe/8xer8e.png
>weThere's only you, you stupid nogenfaggot
>>8331342is your vae alright? non vpred models work fine?
end is pretty degen so il not post everything
Why does guided_penetration never work?
>>8331347but it does?
>>8331306I don't get the controversy, what's Nyalia?
>>8331347skill issue
>>8331349It doesn't on Pony, it doesn't on NAI.>>8331352Retard.
>>8331344I have sdxl_vae in the path it has been in for a year with no changes. No issues on non vpred models.I do see a vae related error in the cmd but I am not sure whyhttps://files.catbox.moe/4563d9.png
>>8331347Anon, that's unironically a skill issue>>8331351Oh nyo~
>>8331351boogeyman for le bad trained on AI lora, low hanging fruit because of that
>>8331353>pony>naingmi
>>8331351Do NOT put that in your prompt. I'm serious.
Has anyone made any size difference stuff for illustrious? I don't see anything on civit. I'm thinking of things like piggyback and face humping from besollo.
>>8331362pony loras should work* on illu/noob
>>8331358Sounds like nogen butthurt. I'm just happy when people share data so I can improve, I don't care if your lora was trained on liquid shit.
>>8331350>degen warning4: https://files.catbox.moe/dvhxyo.jpg5: https://files.catbox.moe/tofhs7.jpg
>>8331364Some work, some don't. Glad I didn't delete my pony lora folder to save space.
>>8331328I'm on an old reforge dev commit so that might be why it's different.https://files.catbox.moe/m80roa.png
>>8331353>>8331367I'd say you should try to go into politics since you seem to desire to establish policies for others to follow but not yourself, but I doubt you know how to manage human relations for that kind of workMaybe try out for becoming a subreddit mod, it's not much, but it'll do to fill in that emptiness you have by enabling you to enforce your dumbass rulessure am glad we don't have that shit here :^)
who are you talking to, schizo
>Character with 10 pages not recognized at allFor some reason tagging the series made the character look like one with only 2 pages... I wonder if it got tagged incorrectly somehow.
>>8331354Using automatic VAE should work, but>>8331329that error is pretty weird, seems related to the model or where the models are stored? do that vpred work on other uis? (I mean the one you have on your storage). Download is not corrupted?
>>8331184I still don't understand what foreshortening do. Is it similar to POV?
>>8331378yeah i wonder that too, keep it to yourself though
Does no one here use Kohya hires on reforge? Damn.
>>8331378I was scrapping the barrel with >>8331340Only 7 pages and not even big artists who at least did multiple pieces of the character. Copyright and descriptor tags are carrying it.
>>8331380nta, but should be similar to fisheye (which is a very powerful tag)
>>8331380this is one of those times where it's actually appropriat to say>pick it uphttps://drawabox.com/lesson/1/7/foreshorteningThink of those dynamic pose shots where the katana is right up to the "camera" so that the tip is large and tapers to the hilt because the hilt is further away from the camera than the tipYou can see how this will help in cases of trying to get stuff like face-to-face pov since the body parts will seem further from you than the face, improving the immersion I guess
>>8331380It adds depth to an image. Like a hand or foot closer to the viewer.
>>8331385I mean at least the character I was trying is a basic bitch I could prompt with just color and hair tags but I'm just confused why the character with less data snuck into the series tag.
>>8331386>>8331388>>8331389Ah. I guess that image isn't a good representative of it.
>>8331379guy with the issues here, Installed a clean version of reforge and it fixed the issue. I upgraded my forge from normal forge to reforge so it could be related to that I guess. Guess ill need to setup my ui again
>>8331368Did you post this to /d/ as well?
>>8331397Wasn't that technically
lax-sama... i need new partial vpred epoch...
>>8331393It's a bit hit and miss of a tag, depends a lot on if it conflicts with another viewpoint tag. Worked well on this one though.https://files.catbox.moe/x9b615.png
So you want that Porygon huh?
>>8331340Isn't that a man?
>>8331418it's genderfluid
>>8331419picking it up
>>8331340Box?
>>8330604Who is this why is every person making good models an asshole?
>doing touch up >inpainting eye>her pupil on the gen next is looking at the side of her eye directly at methis spooked me
>>8331436no cap
>>8331414box
>>8331436I hope she was getting raped in the image
>>8330751Just met her in To Azure today, looking forward to finding out what everything she said meant in Cold Steel
>>8331429>>8331438I'll box once nyalia anon >>8331306 apologizes to hdg for his meltdown and shares with us again.
>artist:jlullaby, artist:nyantcha>nyalia lora at 0.25oh yeah, it's genning time
I wonder if this counts as 18+ or merely ecchi
>>8331448For me? nyalia at 1.3 with a side of expressiveH at 0.9. Call me conservative, what can i say?
>>8331447I. Will. Not. Apologize.
>>8331447its hdg who melts down once it notices nyalia doebeit???
>>8331447Zamn, I get shit from the futa cock schizo all the time, oh well. >>8331443I couldn't play more then a few hours of trails but the second I saw Towa she was the best girl and I just wanted to imagine all the things I could bend her over and fuck her on. >>8331452Zased
>>8331342>>8331395>Downcast alphas_cumprod: TrueAlpha just cumprodded into your gen, kek, unironically
Time to paywall all my catboxes, you fags don't deserve them
Today marks the birth of patreon slopper NYALIAKON.
What's your favorite illustrious merge right now?
>>8331450Why did she tape her balls like that? wont it hurt later?
>>8331476KonpaEvo Mix (NoobAI EPS)https://civitai.com/models/946205/konpaevo-mix-noobai-eps
>>8331456If you get more time, I will also join the legion of people that recommend it. Trails in the Sky starts off slow by introducing the world, and all the doors in Trails in the Sky 3rd really start setting up and hyping up all the conflicts to come. Not to mention the girls are all pretty fucking peak
>>8331476chadmix
>>8331476noob vpred 0.6
>>8331476box that ass pls
>>8331447pwease postem catbox
I don't like nyalia because it is spelled with nai and I don't like that.
>>8331429>>8331438>>8331486Well, bros, even if nyalia anon refuses to apologize, I'll still share. For now, he can see himself out. https://files.catbox.moe/gjemaw.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/05rleg.png>>8331490NyaliaH
>>8331490but it has "nya" in the name? Do you dislike catgirls?
New vpred version status? They usually upload it around this time
>>8331495it's nyover...
Has nai finally become irrelevant?
>>8331495I honestly think they slowed down because they can't figure out how to put together a conversion method that works. Kurumuz is seeing the hubris of man unfold right in front of him, but he needs not topple their tower of babel, it'll just full from the sheer lack of tensile strength that the chinese phds that were used as a foundation possess
>>8331493How are you liking falafel mix?
>>8331493You got anymore giselle gewelle gens? I need to confirm xer gender
>>8331504The moment you try fucking them, any small splash of blood from tissues tearing will zombify you. Literally unfuckable
>>8329742Remove the NAI ad from the OP.
bros why are 90% of the styles in eps 0.5 /aco/ to the max
>>8331503I'm not sure if it's the change of sampler/scheduler I recently did but this shitmix along with n40naiilluv2 have been producing equally, if not better than personalslopv3 for me. But could be placebo as everyone is just cannibalizing each others shitmixes in merges. That said, I do test most new shitmixes and 99% of them are shit. But these 2 have been alright. Test 'em yourself. Curious if I'm not just on a good gacha roll.
>>8331510i don't know, why are you on 0.5 eps
>>8331513Fair enough, thanks. The frequency at which these shitmixes are coming out is frustrating with how temperamental a lot of them are with samplers/schedulers.
>>8331506better off fucking xer friend
>>8331515last good model to spawn out of lax's training spree
>>8331545>>8331510
>>8331549question was genuine but understood
Noobai-XL-Vpred-0.65shttps://civitai.com/models/833294?modelVersionId=1093948
>>8331554i just coomed all over my screen>captcha: 4gg3r
>>8331554>Enhanced the training dataset with anime screenshots and cosplay images, significantly increasing data richness to 16 million.I question the legitimacy of this claim but I guess there's only one way to find out
>>8331554damn I needed to take a shower tho
>>8331557>anime screenshots and cosplay imageswould be useful if they actually included example gens
>>8331554im not as impressed with the examples as i was with .6 but this is only .65 i guess
time to take a break for a week so that next week's version hits harder. hope this week's is good but i don't want burnout.
>>8331557I love repeating the mistakes of NAIv1 by diluting the dataset with real images, fuck these guys never learn anything from their predecessors huh
0.65S is... something!
>>8331554Are they training a IP adapter too? or am I reading that wrong. That's huge if true
>>8331566they're merely following in angel's footsteps
>>8331569hugely retarded
>>8331568>>8331567why bf16?
>>8331493Thanks <3
>>8331571kewl bro
>>8331504Nothing good. Xer look gets heavily influenced by artist styles so I'm just raw dogging with the copyright now.>>8331506>>8331521Mmm.. nyo~
>>8331493now box that satsuki please
I have absolutely no desire to prompt lately, why am I still lurking here...
>>8331580You're here for nyalia, chud
>>8331580you're not the only one, judging by amount of shitposting as of late
>>8331580Didn't prompt half this day window shopping monitors with black friday sales.
post your best noob6.5s gen right now
>>8331583>as of late
>>8331569Hopefully so. Or they plan on making AI beer.
>>8331568>Enhanced the training dataset with anime screenshots and cosplay images, significantly increasing data richness to 16 million:where is everyone?
It seems images are ok without apg/rescale cfg on 0.65s?
>>8331590looks amazing without apg, but am worried about the new realistic cosplay images they added
>>8331590Damn, now how will we shitpost about vpred!!!?
>>8331592this is how: >>8331591
>>8331568>anime screencapsunderstable>cosplay???
>>8331593Thank god, I thought we were running out of boogeymen. We good everyone
Okay I feel 0.65s is clearly an upgrade vs earlier vpred versions. My eyes don't get burn out when not using APG/Rescale.Also white/black backgrounds are true white/black backgrounds without oversaturating everything.
fine ill download 0.65s
noob shitposterbros is it over for us?
my favorite snake oil, euler a cfg++, works once again.
>>8331601idk why using AYS almost never gives me pure white backgrounds
Is epsilon-pred 1.0 shit or what? Why do people go for unfinished vpred versions over that?
>>8331603just use sgm uniform
/hdg/... i kneel....
who is this twitter vrchat shitter
>>8331603Yeah I never got it using AYS either
>>8331603They told you to align your steps. You did not listen.And now you're gonna pay.
>>8331604new toy syndrome
>>8331604Every eps model after.5 is shit
What was the issue with pony again? I kinda miss the times when stuff just worked without having to rebake loras every day and model breaking with incorrect sampler and amount of steps. This shit is awful, bros
>>8331603With SGM uniform it seems to work fine
>>8331612Pony IS the issue
here comes repostjeet, let's see how many people fall for it
>>8331613>>8331597two-tone background, black background, white backgroundGo
>>8331557kek, wd already found out how it will end with their crap dataset from instagram or whatever
>>8331616example 1
>>8331616>>8331618example 2
>>8331480Rather just gen towa desu.
>>8331618>>8331619box?
>>8331621nyalia boxeshttps://files.catbox.moe/etl515.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/x4jno7.png
>noobaiXLNAIXL_vPred065SVersion>Swhat does it mean?
>>8331626Sex
>rewrite noob prompt to documentations specifications >output looks worse, has 2girls instead of 1
is 0.65s less friedany comparisons?
SMG uniform is so fucking bland and boring, i don't really want to use it but it actually follows my prompts and don't add anything else uhmm
>>8331632cute but where da penis atwhere da cum at
screenshot working just as well as it did on v-pred 0.5 and cosplay working just as badnot sure if the data addition is true
>>8331626surprise butt segs (with anime screenshot and cosplay phot data)
Holy shit, new vpred is so good that my nai sub cancelled itself!
>>8331032Tried to use optimi's AdamW for regular loras and it was very unstable.
>>8331632box?
>>8331626shota
>>8331643extreme cringe
>>8331638Yeah, I was comparing with loras too, to quickly find if those are good optimizers. Have you perhaps tried furry torchastic?
testing with yuukasex it is
>>8331649>furry torchasticHuh, first time I’ve heard about it.I've tried schedule-free Adam and it was pretty good at 4e-4 lr.Also wanted to try Fishmonger, I even have a (presumably) working config for it.
>>8331554why is it so gray
i think i may have broken my benis gonna take a couple days off see you genners later
don't gen too hard, kids
>>8331653>Huh, first time I’ve heard about it.It's mentioned in the rentry https://github.com/lodestone-rock/torchastic>schedule-free AdamHaven't got luck with that one>FishmongerThis one feels really solid with default settings, but it's too damn heavy, consumes even more vram, than prodigy and runs 2 times slower
>>8331659gen kids too hard, do...
new noob is... something
What's the best workflow for adding color to black and white doujin pages these days?
>>8331662>that tail>those eyes>seven fucking fingersShit? Is the answer shit? Cause it should be.
>>8331664desu the style is so offensive that i didnt notice
>>8331664>>8331665>nogen
>>8331664time to return to eps it seems
Yah I just did a 100 batches with a seed on overnight what about it?
>>8331623Are you ready to apologize, nyalia anon?
so what is the verdict for the new vpredfor me it doesnt blow up anymore but the colors also dont pop nearly as well as the previous versions
the s stands for sabotage
>>8331675I think you have to ramp up the cfg now colors and details seem to be much better than.
>>8331675it's alright if you're competentaka expect 90% of the thread to call it dogshit
>>8331680https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5rRZdiu1UE
do vpred models work with SMEA or am i fucking something up?
Sigh. Yeah. I'm done. Back to pony, I can't be bothered anymore.
>>8331685Based sane anon
>>8331646Box me up senpai. Love the position.
update your lora bakariso the new model is out
>>8331684It burned in the previous version but seems to work on this one from my quick limited test
>on pony>regularly draw from my retinue of my 873 lora because it can't even do basic shit like folded by itself>move to illustrious shitmix>download 300 lora in anticipation>never ending up using any, everything just works out of the box
>>8331594Might help more realistic styles I guessThose get called /aco/ around here tho
>>8331604catbox pls, I need 3D
>>8331692I don't get it though, I thought styles like sakimichan were anime? Are people here just trolls?
why do i have this good faith in people and think textposts you faggots post here aren't straight up shitposts
>new vpred model releases>gens in thread get worsehmm
>>8331631One could say it's, uniform
>sakimichan>animetry again
any good gens with 0.65s yet
>>8331703https://files.catbox.moe/0xgv2e.png :^)
>>8331704based
All nogen posts should be taken with a grain of salt
>>8331706taking this with a grain of salt
>>8331706Wait does that mean we should take your post with a grain of salt!?? That means all other posts are legit
Too much salt is bad for your health
>>8331675Every artist now looks like ai sloppa.Every gen is washed out trash. I could get more colorful images even on eps 1.0, apparently base/spo Illust are still the best for pure anime aesthetic...
RIP blood pressure
>>8331569>the IPA for NOOB is nearing the end of its training and is currently in testing. Look forward to its release next week.holy fuck yeah that's incredibly hype
>>8331711>apparently base/spo Illust are still the best for pure anime aesthetic...almost had me thinking this wasnt bait
>>8331241i didnt realize. thank you i am retarded>>8331174where did you get euler pyramid?
>>8331714Explain what's wrong with base illu without sounding mad
>>8331716or babbling?
>>8331620Unfortunate, but understandable
>>8331716it's a good model, just an early experiment in a line of (currently unreleased) models. noob is an objective improvement, however.
>>8331714Unironic skill issue. Base illust was underbaked but was competent and with some wrangling it produced the cleanest anime style out of all local models.If you wanted some more sex capabilities and a bit less tardwrangling, eps 0.5 was the best option. It's all downhill from there.
>20 hours after learning about apg and cfg rescale a vpred update that fixes the cfg jank comes outfuck
>>8331715https://github.com/Koishi-Star/Pyramid_Noise_For_Inference
>>8331720explain why you're unable to produce good results on models post eps 0.5 without revealing your massive skill issue
>>8331714I unironically get amazing images with base illust, while Noob keeps getting worse and worse with each update, currently we're hitting pony levels of shading on the newest vpred.
>>8331720Of course claims model is better with no gen. The perfect way to prove something
>>8331719The only improvement I've seen so far with Noob is that it knows some new characters, and a very few artists got better. While the others didn't improve much (if any), and some regressed.
>>8331716Without sounding mad should just be the default way of explaining things. When you have to say it, it's like acknowledging that your question willl make him angry. In which case you should probably rephrase it.
>>8331726>>8331724>>8331720>>8331716>samefag out in full force
>>8331723>>8331725Explain why would I post a gen in a text general without sounding like a complete retard.
>>8331722thanks, is it any good from ur experience?
>>8331729damn you babblin
>>8331728yeah, all me
>babblers babbling oh nyo nyo nyo~
i dont gen coom so i dont post gen here sorry
i gen coom so i dont post gen here sorry
>>8331730Yeah, did a dozens x/y tests and I saw more varied composition and small detailsAlthough that gen is old, now I always use Kohaku_LoNyu_Yog
>>8331726nta and it completely obsoleted my Tenk lora. But it was one of the first ones baked, so I wonder if someone on the team saw it itt and gave it special attention. Since other styles did not improve that drastically.
>there's a depthflow nodeoh neat, maybe I'll try it out for some cheap "animation" again
>They had to resort to including anime screencaps and a fucking cosplay to tame the "superior furry anatomy" (c) (tm)a healthy kek
all you need is eps 0.5 and a lora
>>8331736thanks, the only reason i dont use kohaku is cause its so damn slow on my 1080
all you need is your imagination and the pencil
this thread is not very awa
v65sepia
>>8331745eps 0.5 bros... our response?
explain why you refuse to use lora's without sounding mad(this is a double entendre - I mean both mad as in angry and mad as in mentally unwell)
>>8331345>>8331348>>8331350>>8331368based breast expansion chad
>>8331747Oh nya nya nya nyalia~
>>8331747hmm... nyolia...
>>8331749>>8331752(ai generated:2.0) is all you need
v65s is looking real good bwos, I always trusted in cute Euge-Chan to deliver
>>8331754b... buh the thread says it's bad!
>>8331754you like something? fucking shill, kys
>>8331755No gens say it's bad and that usually means it's good
how many steps should you train a style lora for? i know for characters the sweetspot is around 2000-3000 but the first time i tried a style lora it was extremely underbaked.
You know, NAI shills predicted all this. The end of local, the retarded bakers, all that.
>>8331760Some Evangelion type of shit.
>>8331759Aim for 6-8k and just test the checkpoints
65s eyes and hands have degraded to cascade tier. you people are sick
>>8331414did that guy ever finish his comic, it was good
>>8331764keep us posted, nogen-kun!
>>8331764masterful bait, 0.65s is the best model local has
>>8331759Should be roughly the same. Check if you didn't include a trigger word by accident. Any tag that's present in a majority of the dataset you'll have to prompt for to get the style to show. Even stuff like 3D or loli or huge breasts can become a style trigger if your dataset is not varied.
>>8331764Proof?
>>8331760Strange to call it "the end" when it's really just the end of progressing forward, all the existing advancements are still available. I mean by that logic NAI ended more than a year ago, and might perhaps be reborn someday in the future as v4.I actually wonder if we get so few NAI posters now because they've seen everything the model can do and are just tired of it now.
>>8331771>>8331745
>>8331773>No metadata found.>
>>8331772>I actually wonder if we get so few NAI posters now because they've seen everything the model can do and are just tired of it now.???or maybe because "they" moved on to a local model once local stopped being complete fucking joke? you don't swear allegiance to one "side" anon
>>8331015Sorry, I went to sleep, here: https://files.catbox.moe/nboin7.png
>>8331776eh, sure maybe
>vpred models always the ones getting catbox requests>epslets seething over how 0.5 was the last good model seems some of you are rather detached from reality
>>8331782I abandoned reality long ago
Yeah NAI is dead. Local won
>>8331780>local is the best option>use local>nai is the best option>use nai>local gets on comparable level, does not cost money>use local againit really isn't hard
vpred 1.0 is going to blow your mind
>>8331787I already blew my load, I don't want more blowing
