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Previous Thread: >>8351736

>LOCAL UI
A1111: https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui
Forge: https://github.com/lllyasviel/stable-diffusion-webui-forge | Alternative version (reForge): https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-reForge
Comfy: https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUI

>LOCAL MODELS
Pony: https://civitai.com/models/404802 | https://civitai.com/models/288584 | https://civitai.com/models/257749
Illustrious: https://civitai.com/models/795765

>PAID
NovelAI: https://rentry.org/hdg-nai-v3
NAI API/prompting in A1111: https://github.com/Metachs/sdwebui-nai-api

>RESOURCES
Wiki: https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/wiki | https://comfyanonymous.github.io/ComfyUI_examples | https://openart.ai/workflows/templates
Training: https://rentry.org/59xed3 | https://github.com/derrian-distro/LoRA_Easy_Training_Scripts | https://github.com/bmaltais/kohya_ss | https://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainer
Tags: https://danbooru.donmai.us/wiki_pages/tag_groups | https://danbooru.donmai.us/related_tag
ControlNet: https://rentry.org/dummycontrolnet | https://civitai.com/models/136070 | https://huggingface.co/2vXpSwA7/iroiro-lora
IOPaint (LamaCleaner): https://www.iopaint.com/install
Upscalers: https://openmodeldb.info
Booru: https://aibooru.online
4chanX Catbox/NAI prompt userscript: https://rentry.org/hdgcb
Pony-related: https://rentry.org/ponyxl_loras_n_stuff | https://rentry.org/ponyxl_lora_previews | https://lite.framacalc.org/4ttgzvd0rx-a6jf
Illustrious-related: https://rentry.org/illustrious_loras_n_stuff
Useful Nodes/Extensions: https://rentry.org/8csaevw5

OP Template/Logo: https://rentry.org/hdgnew/raw | https://files.catbox.moe/xk99gy.png | https://files.catbox.moe/35bdt5.gif

>Related
>>>/aco/sdg
>>>/g/sdg
>>>/g/ldg
>>>/d/ddg
>>>/e/edg
>>>/u/udg
>>>/vt/vtai
>>>/vg/aids
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who here 3dgenning with the new model?
any requests?
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>>8353338
aint this girl underraged?
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>>8351736
Previous Thread Highlights

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>>8353338
Previous Thread Highlights:
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>>8353342
> who here 3dgenning with the new model?
distracted by the new + new-ish video models hunyuan/ltx

maybe a revy from black lagoon? https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=11066819
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>>8353347
wtf i made it 12 times!
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>>8353347
You got a catbox for one of the single pictures?
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>>8353342
>who here 3dgenning with the new model?
what model?
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>>8353342
not that kind of 3D, but yes
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Would you take it?
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>>8353351
very nice
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>>8353363
nah, probably older than her mom at this point
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>>8353346
don't blame ya, this one's more experimental for sure

>>8353357
https://huggingface.co/spaces/JeffreyXiang/TRELLIS
i cloned it and installed it locally with no fuss.
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Any autistic Lora surgeons here? How do I slice Lycons to only (mostly) influence style and leave composition alone?
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>>8353363
wow
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>>8353342
What I'd really need is a model that goes from an image input to a posable 3d character model, which you could then use to create a dataset for a lora so you could have consistent details on OCs.
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>>8353371
such a model would allow for fully rigged 3d assets for games from an image, a big goal people are working towards I am sure
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>>8353342
>>8353367
The point is to make that old 3D games style, right?
Because P*ny could already make the Blender/SFM style very well (with loras).
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>>8353374
He generates actual 3d models, not a pictures
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>>8353375
Oh I see. I guess that's useful for an indie dev.
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>>8353376
not really
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>>8353376
it would be cool if I could turn something like this into a 3d printable model
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>>8353378
Then I fail to see what's the point besides... an specific fetish like old 3d lara croft maybe.
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>>8353379
how big of a jar do i need to buy, anon?
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>>8353367
thanks boss
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>>8353380
>>8353379
3D printing your own actually good figures would be insane, resin printing is very accurate the limit has been making nice .obj models
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Does anyone know if there's anyway to gen remotely on a phone? When I jerk off I like to lay on my back, but with my pc set up I have to sit in a chair, not comfy for me. I know there's remote desktop but that's not really it, I can gen remotely but I can't look at the images since it's all low res
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>>8353384
Lol no, you can already do that easily since like 2/3 years ago very easily and having nice .obj is not an issue, the only missing step is the painting which is not possible to automate yet, but I can see a 3d painter being made soonish
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>>8353389
do you jerk off to the latent?
just gen and watch it later
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>>8353391
not really it was always shit, microsofts latest model is 100 times better
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>>8353389
NovelAI v3 for 25$
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>>8353347
Damn all my pics, best highlights
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>>8353392
I just like to keep genning while I edge and let go when I get the one I really like
>>8353394
It can't do newer girls though
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>>8353379
I was going to say
>Anime figures like these originate from models, so one is out there somewhere. Or you could buy a 3D scanner and scan it.
but then I saw the filename that indicated this picture was AI-generated. I was thoroughly fooled.
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>>8353389
There is. Add --Listen to the commandline args line on the webui-user.bat file.
Then access it through a browser on your phone with the local ip of the computer running the webui with :7860 at the end.
This is for Reforge, but the others all have similar ways to do it.
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>>8353389
All the "WebUI" clients have a mobile version. You put --listen in the command line args and then just go to [pc ip or host name]:port
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Any 3D loras for Illustrious yet? There were General butch and fugtrup loras I really liked for pony but Illustrious is just so much better I can't go back
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>>8353393
you dont need an ai to get good model and those are terrible for printing either way
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>>8353401
She's 17, stop posting underage girls
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>>8353403
I fucking love you guys, thanks
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version 27 is gonna be the one for sure
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>>8353417
What does your validation loss say?
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>>8353421
nothing because that's never been implemented in sd-scripts
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>>8353422
https://github.com/67372a/LoRA_Easy_Training_Scripts
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>>8353405
have you seen the one released this week? They finally look good for printing. You might just need to do only very basic changes like deleting internal geometry
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>>8353423
im gonna use the new schizo sd-scripts optimizer instead
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>>8353448
Which one? Some of them require extra arguments that you have to look up in the """documentation"""
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>>8353406
Hmm.. nyooooo~
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is there anyway to prompt fullback panties? there doesnt seem to be a danbooru tag for it
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>>8353452
schedule free prodigy but it's fucking up so i'm not using it after all
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>>8353464
Put thong in the negatives maybe?
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>>8353465
try ranger with any adamw config
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>>8353401
>>8352927
boxes please?
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Are we getting vpred 0.7 this week or...?
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>>8353475
LOL
they still cant figure out what's wrong with vpred. euge baked 20 test epochs and it's still a mystery
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What did she mean by this?
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>>8353479
B-but b-chama's invaluable input...
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>>8353468
tried and it didn't really work, for reference i'm looking for something like this
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how to connect something in prompts? for example, I want a blue scarf instead of red. (blue:scarf)?
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>>8353482
heres my prompt too
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>>8353483
Just "red scarf" and hope it works. Only way to "connect" tags is the prompt-ex mode of regional prompter
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how does /hdg/ upscale with controlnet? i just used anytest, base gen control image, at half strength w/ full duration
what's the correct way to do it? like which controlnet model, processing and resolution to use for base gen to use as control image, etc
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>>8353481
How is b-chama still talking about LR, how the fuck have they not tested that this far in?
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>>8353479
I don't get it, did they ever read NAI's paper? Can't they just do what NAI did instead of wasting time? Or did they already tried NAI's method? Cuz what the did clearly worked without a single issue
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>>8353496
i thought NAIv3 was just an excruciatingly long and expensive pure unet bake on base SDXL
t. haven't read any papers
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>>8353479
>>8353494
all euge has to do is log loss and grad norm on these tests, share it with the chat and they'd have 90% of an answer towards what's going wrong. instead it's week 5 of
>lmao let's throw these turds at the wall and see which one sticks!
it's so frustratingly stupid
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>>8353496
nai paper is shit
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>>8353499
i dont think more than 4 people even have access to the experiments repo on HF
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no sekrit sauce for local. fuck you all bitches, i own you.
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>>8353498
noob has already spent around 70% of the compute nai3 used so that's not even an excuse they have
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>>8353485
Is this something like what you're looking for?
I had to use [white taut shorts, shorts:fat mons, cameltoe,(lace-trimmed panties:1.2), panties,(floral print panties:1.1):0.25]
basically transform a pair of shorts into panties.
It kinda works, but not all the time.
There are other candidates, I didn't go through all the options. My first instinct was diaper, but it gave her a puffy ass. It could still give good results, though.

You might want to consider inpainting instead, though.
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Careful with the heels Koyanskaya
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>>8353496
they tried that and it fried. so they added some copium. and that fried. so they added more copium. and it still fried. and now they don't know what is wrong as every adjustment they've thrown at it resulted in the same deep-fried colors. they haven't a clue what the issue is
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>>8353501
what does that matter? you think you can magically understand the training breakdown by downloading the checkpoint? you can see from a's image they're all fucked and it's all just shots in the dark of how to fix it because euge either is not logging things (which would be beyond retarded but at this point I wouldn't be surprised) or for no reason at all isn't sharing the logs with a/madman
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>>8353509
euge has always been the dumbest local baker by a decent margin so none of this should be too surprising
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>>8353507
So I guess everything indicates that the bake was already fucked up since the beginning when they baked using debiased estimation and noise offset retardation then?
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>>8353504
it's easier to squander resources when they're grants

>>8353509
yes, i think users testing, trying to poke and prod and hack around problems, and giving some kind of feedback is still value added
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>>8353510
but what about MUH cute euge? i thought you all liked him even if he was an incompetent retard
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>>8353513
incompetent retards are only cute when they aren't in charge of large amounts of money
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>>8353512
>yes, i think users testing, trying to poke and prod and hack around problems, and giving some kind of feedback is still value added
what are you going to poke and prod at? if the training is fucked it's fucked, it's not going to matter how you inference it. there is literally, and I mean literally, nothing you'd be able to tell anyone from using the test models that would help solve this problem. if you truly believe otherwise, balls up and ask euge for access to help test
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>>8353346
Kinda like it.

1. Does any videogen allows the creation of loops?
2. Is there any videogen that can run at home yet?
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>>8353515
i see
does that fact makes you feel mad, anonnie? are you angry cuz an incompetent retard is in charge of large amounts of compute valued in lots of money?
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>>8353517
>mouth nipples

I'm kinda in to it.
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it's alright neggles-kun, someday you'll get your compute
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>>8353519
i mean i hate that i still don't have a good model that i can bake loras on after this long but i'm excited for nai4 at least
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>>8353520
they lick back
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>>8353521
He's busy begging kurumuz for a job who is forever "not hiring" when faggles asks (shocking no one)
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>>8353505
what is [] for?
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>>8353338
Heyyy i made it to cover picture :))
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>>8353525
looks like scheduling, changing from shorts to panties at 25% mark
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>>8353525
https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/wiki/Features#prompt-editing
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i cant believe im asking this, but was b-sama right all along?
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>>8353400
both pop-up parade and figma loras (and nendos) are a tradition at this point, every model architecture has them
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>>8353531
what did she said
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>>8353511
eps looks worse and worse. noob's settings, regardless of vpred, were fucked. dataset too with their 'natural language' captions at least. i don't know if a/madman will ever find out what's wrong
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>>8353531
About female on child pedophilia or the other thing?
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>>8353516
even if all i do is try out a few and opine on which one is the best, that is value added, and it's free
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>>8353531
about cascade being the future?
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>>8353536
you're worthless
completely worthless
fucking retard
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>>8353536
it doesn't need that value, you can see from the already existing 2 second test that one of the checkpoints is not saturated and the others are all extremely fried. your personal opinion is useless for this problem, it's not an aesthetic contest it's trying to fix a glaring issue in the training. if literally all you want is a new toy to play with then wait for whatever shitfest they hack together to crap out on Sunday
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>>8353538
>>8353539
by your description they're lost in the woods unable to find any bearing, feeble children desperate for warmth
but also only two people on the earth can help them
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I've been thinking... We need a model that can do natural language well, but everyone seems to refuse to do it for greedy reasons: most models that have a T5 or similar text encoder sufficient to do NLP well tend to have licenses that don't allow commercial use, so commercial outfits refuse to tune on them, things like flux, sd3, that one recent t2i nvidia model that's supposed to be quite good, but has a clause about not using it on non-nvidia hardware and so on.
What about taking hunyuanvideo and just using it as t2i, and tuning that on a booru (with appropriate captions, not cheap to generate)? Doesn't that one have a reasonable license?
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>>8353543
>We need a model that can do natural language well
No, we don't.
Fuck off. NL is unnecessary retarded garbage.
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>>8353544
No it isn't, fuck off you.
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>>8353545
retard
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>>8353543
>you can only use it on Nvidia hardware
what the fuck? lol
absolutely neurotic even by jewidia standards
it's not like anyone actually bothers with running ML """work"""flows on amd hardware
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>>8353482
I tried
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>>8353544
but muh naiv4...
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>>8353505
thank you! havent heard of prompt editing before, and i got some good results using it, though inconsistent
i'm definitely going down the inpaint route though, since im pretty new to this and i have little experience inpainting much outside of hands and faces. i guess ill prompt the shorts first and then inpaint panties?
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Why is my loss not going down?
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>>8353540
if you can help them look at the vpred chat in artiwaifu, get up to speed and offer your sage advice. the kind of help you're offering isn't what they need. it's like someone got shot and you're saying
>well, I can give them a pat on the back! why won't the EMTs let me come by and do it?!
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>>8353551
It's shit, only their in-house artists that signed up to be included in the dataset are properly tagged. Nothingburger.
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>>8353544
t. 1girl only gen
I want to be able to specify details without it getting mixed up or assigning them to the wrong character. While certainly you can get pretty fun outputs from something trained on tags only, the limitations are glaring when you want something specific.

>>8353548
It's this https://nvlabs.github.io/Sana/ and yes, nvidia has some silly license on it, non-commercial too, they're not using t5 but some newer thing, it's also very small param wise.
I actually can't find the clause now https://huggingface.co/Efficient-Large-Model/Sana_1600M_1024px/blob/main/LICENSE.txt
The guy that said it can only be ran on nvidia gpus is this: https://xcancel.com/cloneofsimo/status/1864309440356470894#m
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>>8353558
yeah genuinely neurotic
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>>8353536
no bro you cant be threatening their sense of superiority over having exclusive access to a turd
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>>8353556
too much effort, just gibe access faget
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>>8353552
I remember using animation wave script to try an create animations. The animations weren't very good, but seeing successive image generations helped me develop a better understanding of how things morph into other things. Like if you ask for blue eyes and a red hat, you're more likely to get a blue hat from time to time because the character moves and the blue is now where the hat will be and it diffuses that because it makes sense for the whole object to be blue. Things like that.
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>>8353566
>>8353552
in other words, even without inpainting certain prompts can help get you the objects you want.

Though diving into gelbooru tags is usually a better solution.
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>>8353565
there is 0 reason for you to have it, the tests aren't improvements or whatever the retarded hell you're thinking
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1girl, standing, ass, looking back, smug, bent over, anus, pussy, scat, an anime waifu is defecating into a bowl labelled "NAIv4 slop", her speech bubble says "Bon apetit. That'll be $25/month please~ <3"
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>>8353563
more
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it begins
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>>8353574
could i get box for this style please?
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>>8353578
subscribe to my patreon.
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>>8353579
link?
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>>8353558
>I want to be able to specify details without it getting mixed up or assigning them to the wrong character
NL doesn't actually solve that. I get that you want to be able to prompt for <single character> and have certain things belong entirely to them but that is NOT something that NL does or fixes. It's actually probably more likely to make it worse(since it makes EVERYTHING worse).
What you want is a layered approach to image generation. But we're not actually able to do that yet, partially due to no one putting in the effort to develop the UX/UI for it all and also probably because there just isn't code for it yet.

And hey, guess what, in the meanwhile, if you actually tag all the expressions/etc. out appropriately, it'll actually work most the time and assign things correctly(almost as if a trained model is going to have certain expectations and biases of what belongs where due to dataset frequency)! The exception being if you're trying to do retarded OC donut steal bullshit and defining weird elaborate outfits but then that's your own fucking fault and if you really cared you'd just spend the extra time to get things set up properly on your own, anyway.
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>still nowhere as close as v3
>v4 is around the corner
AAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>8353586
would you be interested in some gr*ids, sir?
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Do it
This place deserves it
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theres that noob deep frying we were all waiting for. glory to local!!
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>>8353582
I'm aware that you can get similar results with complicated pipelines, things like control net, regional prompting and so on, maybe more complicated pipelines could be done by going to 3d and back, but right now commercial models are ahead there and compared to free (there's a very good 3d scene gen now that generates amazing video game-like scenery, voxels, it even has object permanence!).
But you can't say NLP doesn't solve it, being able to follow prompts is something that the top labs are competing on "prompt adherence". So far google is winning there and the main idea is that you have to finetune the vision model to be as accurate as possible and as descriptive as possible. It can do fairly complicated prompts, but there is a limit. Maybe someday we'll find ways to go beyond that, but you see, current tag based models that we use for anime won't even be able to do "red hair" on chara A "green hair" on chara B without regional prompting and then you get the usual same poses. Even for 1girl prompting, just yesterday I wanted a specific pose that had no tag for it and nobody had the right viewpoint/pose and body position, and of course Illus didn't generalize correctly to it - it was almost there but not quite. I think NLP when well done (very good descriptions -> image pairs) would have solved some of it, but not always.
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>>8353493
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>>8353338
>foreskin
How did you accomplished this?
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>>8353606
>But you can't say NLP doesn't solve it
Yes, I can.
Because it doesn't.
NL will still fuck things up, will still end up misattributing prompted qualities to incorrect subjects, still misplace things, etc. And the actual "goal" of all of those NL projects you're going on about is for the most generic, corpo normie friendly (ai generated:1.21) type garbage that no one with a sane mind would want. All of their captions are LLM generated and are a fucking novel on their own.
There are BETTER ways of doing shit that's just tag based. You should be able to condition the unet even by simply having a "right" and "left" label to act as a divider in captions! Something like
><general composition> | left <tags attributed to the left side of canvas> | right <tags attributed to the right side of canvas>
Have "left" and "right" always at the front of the secondary regional caption to act as a proper divider, shuffle the regional tags and shuffle each section as divided by |'s(so you'd have <general>, <left>, <right> on one batch and then it would shuffle to <right>, <general>, <left> on other batches, etc.).
And wow! Wouldn't you know, that should actually enforce being able to use "left" and "right" to properly define what shows up on which quadrant of the canvas! All without fucking the TE irreversibly with garbage NL captions!
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>>8353640
>Because it doesn't.
The corpo models do have much better prompt adherance, not perfect but can prompt things that are impossible with just tags.
>corpo normie friendly (ai generated:1.21) type garbage that no one with a sane mind would want.
And yet I don't want that? You can use the base model and then tune it on anime?
>All of their captions are LLM generated and are a fucking novel on their own.
Mostly true, but the LLMs are often fine tuned for descriptiveness, so that the unet/DiT/whatever you use for image gen can learn to hone in on the little details, things that can't be gotten just from tagging.
Again, just because they're using it for slop does not mean that the technique is bad, it's the SOTA right now.
>There are BETTER ways of doing shit that's just tag based. You should be able to condition the unet even by simply having a "right" and "left" label to act as a divider in captions!
Okay, maybe that could be done, but natural language is more expressive than that, consider "she raised her left leg at a 120 degree angle while her torso leaned to the right by some 30 degrees" (as a silly example).
Or "now imagine that, but your point of view is from below" vs "from above" vs "from the side on the ground", you get the idea. Things like that are incredibly hard to get SD to generalize on (without giving more specific examples more worthwhile than this).
>All without fucking the TE irreversibly with garbage NL captions!
You know SD3 actually used both CLIP and T5, and it isn't the only model that used more than one encoder. In principle nothing prevents you from training it on both NLP and on tags separately with separate encoders, and if you want to do tag based prompting you could do that without ever using the heavy NLP encoder.
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>>8353338
Previous Thread Highlights:

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I blame anti-nogen schizos for this
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>NAIv4 effortlessly blends both tags and NLP, solving both problems at once
meanwhile local is still stuck on sdxl. absolutely grim!
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>>8353667
>The corpo models do have much better prompt adherance, not perfect but can prompt things that are impossible with just tags
...With their garbage LLM caption synthetic input training, yes. But those also almost entirely focus on weird periphery and background details, not two subjects with very specific individual details doing very specific individual things.
>consider "she raised her left leg at a 120 degree angle while her torso leaned to the right by some 30 degrees" (as a silly example).
First of all, NL or not, you're literally never getting that without some form of added assist(that doesn't exist yet).
Second
>left, leg lift, right, leaning to the side
*wow*
>Or "now imagine that, but your point of view is from below" vs "from above" vs "from the side on the ground"
These are all tags. They're all tags you can use. If you want *persistence* and trying to shift camera of an existing scene you're not even talking about the same technology but, instead, a completely different ADDED assist that, again, doesn't exist yet. Also stop using LLM's it only induces brainrot.
>Things like that are incredibly hard to get SD to generalize on
They're hard to generalize on because they're fractions of a dataset! When something makes up a miniscule part of a dataset it's harder to generalize! This isn't very complicated! And NL's won't solve shit there.
>You know SD3 actually used both CLIP and T5, and it isn't the only model that used more than one encoder
Yeah how'd SD3 end up, again?
And XL has two TE's but uhh, um, uhhh, people still have no idea what the fuck to do with that.

What you actually want out of all of this are *better* and more *robust* tags. NL complicates and breaks things while also completely shitfucking your tokens. Meanwhile if you just have slightly more verbose but better tags you actually, really, for really reals solve the shit you want NL for.
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>>8353692
Uhh bro? Your pony v7?
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>>8353692
So what? I'll be happy to use it if it leaks but as long as it's saas It's irrelevant to me.
>inb4 poor
I managed to afford a 3090, it's not about money.
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k, that's it, i will be contacting all western governments to block nai for CSAM as soon as naiv4 releases
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>freejesh's last defense against v4 is groidspam
512 h100s, all for what?? LAX should've trained Flux
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>>8353695
>huge
>sdxl vae
>score tags made by a classifier thats trained on astralites tastes
>no artist tags
>civitsaars exclusive for first few weeks
its over ayakonbros
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>me on the left when discord screenshots
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>>8353704
kek
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>>8353693
>...With their garbage LLM caption synthetic input training, yes. But those also almost entirely focus on weird periphery and background details, not two subjects with very specific individual details doing very specific individual things.
Nothing prevents you from getting a LLM that does captioning in the way you want to, training that LLM is a task in itself. I'm not saying to use an untouched multimodal or vision model to do captions, I'm saying that making that to be good is a task in itself.
>First of all, NL or not, you're literally never getting that without some form of added assist(that doesn't exist yet).
Okay, agree to disagree here, I think you can train it to do that with the right data.
And full unrestricted compositionality with no limitations whatsoever probably isn't with today's architectures, but you can probably get "close enough" to be good.
>left, leg lift, right, leaning to the side
>*wow*
I actually had a more specific pose in mind about that and no tags would help, I needed the girl's legs to be in a more subtle position than the general tag would allow and it would just give the same standard slop pose, while very attractive and everything, it was not exactly what I wanted to see in the moment!
>They're all tags you can use.
There's nothing that allows you to compose tags with the specificity you want. NLP is closest to allowing more specificity.
I'm not asking for persistence yet, that would need architectural changes and isn't quite solved.
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>>8353706
>They're hard to generalize on because they're fractions of a dataset!
And you probably won't get the dataset for that given boorus are only in millions of pictures. Even if some picture may have something close to what you want, the prompt itself won't have enough info for the unet to learn it (without a very capable captioning model).
>Yeah how'd SD3 end up, again?
People didn't touch SD3 for anime due to the license and the fact that there's better things now. Doesn't invalidate that you have the option of using multiple encoders if you want to use multiple sources of data.
>What you actually want out of all of this are *better* and more *robust* tags.
You cannot compose tags. It's just bag of "words".
>NL complicates and breaks things while also completely shitfucking your tokens.
Use a separate encoder.
>Meanwhile if you just have slightly more verbose but better tags you actually, really, for really reals solve the shit you want NL for.
There never will be enough tags specific enough, and even if there were, who would make them. Guess if you absolutely want, you could try to tune some vision model to generate you a fucking hypergraph that would be specific enough to consider all tag compositions, good luck, sounds like an interesting research project. Humans are too lazy to do that sort of tagging on any booru.
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>>8353704
design an image model and make stability train it
save us
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>>8353704
this is why nai is irrelevant. all they compete against is local sloptuners while the Chinese absolutely mog them
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Image spam stops exactly when someone post a nai discord screenshot. Peculiar
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>>8353692
IT'S HABBENING OH MY GOD CAN'T WAIT. KURUMUZ MY SOUL IS YOURS!!!!
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>>8353708
he (embarrassingly) tried that like a year ago when he asked this thread what GPUs he would need. as expected, nothing ever came of it.
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>>8353710
Based noticer
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>>8353710
And it's a V4 shill, of course
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>>8353708
I only make the img23D models man, actually plz try SF3D if people are interested. we included a remesher so the output is at least quads not the slop I saw posted earlier.

>>8353712
that was Ikhor and I can tell that story in a few months (can't wait)!
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>>8353692
its impressive on a technical point but I dont think I care about it for porn purpose
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now lets see v4 shuten
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>>8353710
threadshitterspammerschizosaar shot ximself after the latest v4 leak. it was simply too much
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>>8353692
yup, it's actually over for local
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>>8353715
How can he have this much difficulty finding her nipple?
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>>8353720
local has one last attempt, and that is an artistic push for CC denial
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>>8353721
it's his first time? idk most of the time it's very awkward sex. shame it's only a distilled release. very thankful censors aren't prolific tho except these convenient suds lol
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>>8353721
It's slippery
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>>8353723
here's how local can still win: find out the addresses of every anlatan employee
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>>8353719
lmao wouldn't be surprised if that's what happened
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LAX is making the smart choice to quietly exit the scene while on top. He knows he can't compete with V4 and admitted such about SMEA. He doesn't want to deal with the horde of QQ slants begging for a V4 alternative. He knows not to get in over his head. When he returns in two years he will still be remembered fondly as the Saint of SDXL rather than the flopping fool who failed to finetune flux.
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>>8353697
it's about sending a message...?
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>>8353728
He should have joined them and leaked V3 and V4 for us instead.
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>>8353728
in 2 months everybody will be using naiv4, ponyv7 or illustrious 2.0 and noobai will be relegated to the dustbin of history
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i hope kurumuz will at least be gooning to v4 gens posted here, surely that's what his turk ass wants
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>>8353731
>naiv4
yeah
>illustrious 2.0
IF he actually follows through on his statement
>pony
LOL
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>>8353731
>illustrious 2.0
The cope is high on this one
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>>8353732
yall have trash taste
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every 25 buck sub just made Kurumuz exponentially stronger, what does LAX have? a bunch of screeching freeloaders
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>>8353338
Make him black
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>>8353692
I am curious how this will work with porn, did they build a nlp tagger that can do porn?
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>>8353340
Who?
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I don't know about you guys, but I'm perfectly fine with Pony as it is right now
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>>8353747
The bait is rotting
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>>8353747
You forgot the score_9 tag, sir
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>>8353747
I agree, even with e621 there is just not enough (((CES, GPO))) in noob for me!
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>>8353747
me too, im really happy about it since im not using it anymore, its fitting really well into my trashbin
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>>8353729
Janny, get this hot head out of here.
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Naiv4 looks like ass so far, if I was a paycuck I'd be praying they're just trying to showcase it's sd3-esque abilities and several aesthetic tunes are in queue
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>>8353748
>>8353749
>>8353750
>>8353751
I'm serious. Just the amount of loras give me an ability to create anything I could ever think of
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>>8353755
so fucking true, let me choose 15 loras from my 900 gb collection before i do a single pic
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>>8353755
give me your favorite pony gen then, can catbox
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>>8353755
Just make loras for the other models ...?
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>>8353755
I'm like, just not falling for your shitty bait, sorry!
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>>8353759
>still gave a (You)
lmao gottem
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>>8353756
sir, your different version of the nyalia lora for each noob epoch?
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1girl standing is nice and all but can v4 finally do actual porn as well as local? i will not concede until i see that
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>>8353762
Sorry anon, best we can give you is 1girl standing with multi colored cubes. Enjoy!
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>>8353762
it's not using e621 so it probably can't do farting on prey or reverse suspended underwater dubstep congress
why even bother
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after seeing the furry model and their text models I'm surprised people even have faith in naiv4 lmao. everything has been a complete dump since v3 and even that falls short in a lot of ways everyone just casually glazes over. for the amount of resources Nai has, they're still on the lowest tier by a far margin as far as local goes. It's only redemption is being Saas that allows NSFW, it's kind of shit when you consider it fully. not that local is surpassing it, but the difference is I don't have to pay for local
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>>8353764
>Izutsumi gens wont have 8 nipples
dead in the water honestly
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>>8353765
>as far as local goes
as far as Saas goes*
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>>8353765
Honestly they are kinda banking on no one figuring out how to finetune flux.
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>>8353692
Threadly reminder that this is a model and architecture that's as smart as FLUX but has same hardware requirements as of SDXL's. AND it also uses FLUX VAE. Yes. It is Indeed possible to optimize and make things so incredibly efficient to the point where there is no need to throw a quite some billions of params and to use 7 text encoders (and make it insanely heavy in terms of hardware requirements) just for the sake of making a good, smart model.
Work smarter, not harder.
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>>8353690
Fuck I didn't make it, time to go on a break
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SaarS...
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>>8353773
Let it release before saying it's powerful as flux kek. The details leave a lot to be desired
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How much does renting a server with capable GPU to run SDG cost?
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>>8353773
blah blah blah
>hardware requirements
it's fucking saas
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>>8353773
meanwhile localsaars can't even figure out vpred lmao
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it doesn't matter how good [any] model is, 90% of posters in here can't prompt for shit anyway
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>>8353765
when they first got into text they were pretty good, but then everything else scaled to a size they simply can't compete with. their shitty 7b 8k context model is simply too small and underwhelming compared to even jailbroken saas.
image is where all their talent is. nothing they do regarding text is even worth a mention, yet with image they seem to be ahead of the curve. They managed to fix SDXL while a year later local is still banging their heads against the wall over the same issues. their text models still use llama as a base while their image is a custom architecture.
they should really rebrand their focus to image as it's the only thing they've got
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>>8353781
based and true. if you don't have a skill issue then cascade 1b is all you need!
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>>8353781
all i need is 9 loras stacked on each other
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>>8353764
Yay, another vanilla model!
Here it comes another AOM upgrade!
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>>8353781
All you need is INPAINT my boy.
When you learn to dominate external tools you open your third eye.
>NOOOOOOOO THE AI HAS TO DO EVERYTHING FOR ME. INPAINT DOESN'T COUNT
kwab
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>>8353782
local easily beats them on LLMs because corpos can provide us with very good LLMs and if you want to gen porn a finetune is cheap. Good anime finetunes are not as cheap (10-20k$) and people here don't seem to want to organize toward doing anything to beat turk's shit. There's some good work recently on decentralized training (DeMo, INTELLECT-1's setup too), that it will be quite feasible to do decentralized training this year, but will anons stay disorganized even with such gifts?
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>>8353788
that give me a linkxzelda vibe for some reason
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>>8353765
Yeah it's not like local has not been chasing NAI for a year and a half
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>>8353698
NAI would then just block child-suggesting tags. You'd have better luck filing a class action lawsuit against NAI for intellectual property infringement, supported by lawyers of notable IP holders. NAI will be crippled without the ability to generate copyrighted material.
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>>8353773
Everyone knows that
You act like its easy to "just build a good arch bro?", people smart enough to do that wont do it for free on local, thats why local is stuck with the scrap from saas since there is no money to be made with local
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>>8353787
decentralized is still a year away. every single test done with it had an 8xh100 'entrance fee'. the amount of overhead to process data to 200 different IPs each running a single 4090 at best would result in a complete clogging.
the other time anons tried to 'collaborate' was with cascade, and what happened with that money?
right now them trying to fix noob is still the best bet. it's sdxl but if local can't solve sdxl you can't really expect them to move on to flux, or a whole custom arch. the local community isn't massive. it's the same people again and again. who really do you expect to lead the charge towards making the next best local finetune?
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>>8353787
>People here don't seem to want to organize toward doing anything to beat turk's shit
Just look at the state of noob. No one is going to fund a project for a team that has no idea what they're doi ..... oh I totally forgot about that jordach guy
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>>8353781
hey 90% is a good ratio considering 99% of people outside of here cant prompt at all
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>>8353791
I hate turk as much as anyone else, but why do some anons have this mentality of "not enough that I must win, others must lose"? Just don't give turk money, that's all, he's free to train whatever he wants, same as us. On the other hand, every anon that gives him money...
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>>8353792
that's exactly the problem why local sucks
somehow nai fucks dodge all lawsuits and controversies, it shouldn't be profitable, like all saas ai stuff
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>>8353797
No one wants to sabotage the best model, especially one that does loli
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>>8353787
>people here don't seem to want to organize toward
You cant expect people here to organize toward making a proper thread so dont expect anything for something more complicated than that, only the furries are autistic enough to organize themself but they have shit taste, maybe its their animal instinct to gather in a pack or something
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>>8353798
the point still stands, profitable ai is the sole reason local will always suffer
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I love nai!
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>>8353793
>decentralized is still a year away. every single test done with it had an 8xh100 'entrance fee'. the amount of overhead to process data to 200 different IPs each running a single 4090 at best would result in a complete clogging.
I know it's not quite there, and won't handle malicious nodes either, although might handle some hundred anons renting a few h100s on runpod or vast.ai. Doing it with 3090s might work too, there's people in /lmg/ with 4x3090 setups, but I don't know if enough of them. Different hyperparameters as to when to merge and more async stuff may avoid the clogging to some degree, it's still early research, but likely doable.
>the other time anons tried to 'collaborate' was with cascade, and what happened with that money?
I actually don't know much about this.
>right now them trying to fix noob is still the best bet.
that's fine, especially since they're getting "free" compute, but at some point a refresh of illus or noob on new content or some NLP anime finetune (flux or maybe hunyuanvideo or some other one, like that nvidia thing was really small (1-2B) model, let's just ignore the non-commercial license given it's just anons tuning?) may be a good idea. However, anime tunes of that sort have a complicated pipeline, you need to generate good caption
>who really do you expect to lead the charge towards making the next best local finetune?
I don't know anon, if anyone has the passion to work on it for a few months or more. I think in the case of noob, they went conservative because they had a specific timeframe. if you're going flux or other nlp, you will need to spend months doing research first before you go for the real training run, and probably also months on captions too before it.
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>>8353794
Maybe they don't have to fully fund it, maybe a few people donating compute here and there for experiments and then eventually gathering up for a larger run (see the decentralized training stuff I mentioned). I know people expect results right away, but if you're doing something new, it's also research. However, anime tunes of that sort have a complicated pipeline, you need to generate good captions, itself not an easy task, I'm skeptical that NAIv4 will have done a stellar job here either (if you mention a character name in the sentence, will it know to use it right?).
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>>8353797
Thats not a problem thats just the nature of things, people could pool knowledge and labor together to make a good model but that require effort and talent and the medium is too new/complicated/expensive for some retard to just try things until it works
Nai dodge controversies because they are not advertizing themselves everywhere as a porn model, the biggest exposure they got was due to the flood of BBC porn with the grifter mix and that wasnt up to them, they are either waiting for openai to settle their lawsuit or they are just gonna keep it low until ai is less frown upon in the public mind
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>>8353797
midjourney was hit with the same artist lawsuit as stablediffusion. emad cucked, midjourney didnt. sd3 tanked into irrelevance, mj turns a massive profit. its quite simple to choose not to bend the knee, it's just localtroons are too sensitive. local chooses self-sabotage at every single turn. i'd actually say there hasn't been a SINGLE instance of local fumbling that wasn't of their own undoing. you can start with sd 2.0 all the way to noob's dataset
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How far have anons been able to push NOOB not looking for tips but want inspiration
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>>8353808
Base noob?
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>>8353581
No that's Hilda.
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>>8353807
What's wrong with noob's dataset? the e621 inclusion? I don't think he censored loli or anything like that.
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>>8353805
If you want to actually improve local model on a simple scale without going all the way to make a full model on an outdated architecture then the best and most lasting community project you can make is to do a publicly available dataset with really good tagging that include every website you can think of, only issue is that if you want to tag stuff properly on such a scale you need a way better auto tagger than what we currently have
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>>8353806
see >>8353792
you think ai research would stop if there were no money to be made with it?
>>8353807
i think usage of actual artists styles to create uncensored loli porn is quite different from mj example.
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>>8353796
I detest the idea of a universal good being locked behind a subscription. I'm aware of how communist this sounds, but there's a limit to how much Jewry I can handle.
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>>8353749
masterpiece, best quality, very aesthetic, very awa, absurdres, explicit, uhnsafe, uncensored, I don't know about you guys, but I'm perfectly fine with Pony as it is right now
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>>8353811
A compressed e621 inclusion and the unfreezing of the TE
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>>8353809
There's more than the pred models I've been out the game this is what i can squeeze from 1.1
I don't really do hardcore stuff but this board makes the best stuff and is in the know.
Eye color got changed because of adetailer but if there are other models which ones do people use?
But I'm mostly curious to see what people cook up don't need a gen just inspiration
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>>8353766
Wtf, that's my image lol. Could never have expected to see it again like this. It's been 1.5 years since I made that.
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>>8353804
>I don't know anon, if anyone has the passion to work on it for a few months or more.
idk what you'd want people to do. nobody is going to work on a project without a leader and without compute. the reason noob got so much attention is because they went around saying they had ungodly amounts of compute. renting is a joke. renting compute prices are a complete scam if you don't have connections. the amount of compute noob spent on test bakes is easily over $10k. you'd be pissing all that money away on failed training runs.
there is a reason madman/a/b-/yoinked sit there wrangling euge instead of just making their own model and it's because they have no compute.
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>>8353815
I mean I agree with you anon? I also don't like altman and anthropic for keeping their older models closed despite having removed/"retired" them from use, it's absolutely evil. Of course turk is going back on his naiv3 open sourcing promise as well, because he realized that v4 will be worse in some respects and he doesn't want to compete with himself, even if illus/noob are close enough to it in most respects. Either way, fuck him.
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>>8353818
Haven't tried noob 1.1 but my favorite eps model is personalmerge, shit just werks most of the time
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you think they'd just scrape the model if they couldn't make money with it? just sayin'
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>>8353821
literally nobody promised open v3 ever
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>>8353825
it was real in my head
it was my truth
they betrayed everyone
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>>8353823
I'll look into that the just works aspect is important noob requires you to go off the reservation
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>>8353811
recompressed datasets of already compressed jpegs that get even further artifacted when rescaled, awful bottom-tier NLP applied to random parts of the dataset without any confirmation of how that interacts with shuffle or dropout, 16mil+ images BEFORE adding in cosplayers, so 4m images of undisclosed slop (dan+e621 is only 12m max)
taken from euge's announcement at the end of september:
>Here are the questions we are asking for help: 2: Dealing with low-quality data: There are a lot of low-quality data, e.g. low aesthetics, jpeg/scan/compression artifacts, watermarks, morbid etc., in our dataset.
this was simply never addressed, and it just sits there in the dataset. euge's solution was asking a vlm if "this image contained watermarks" and the results were just completely hallucinated. their dataset is an absolute mountain of slop
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>>8353825
I do remember a long while ago them saying something about open sourcing older stuff once they have newer, but they did go back on it. Was it about v2? But if v4 comes out, it makes sense to open v3 sometime, anyway he won't do it, out of claims it's "inferior" and he wouldn't want people running "inferior" models lmao - no it's just not wanting to compete with himself, needing to milk every last paypig penny.
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>>8353814
>you think ai research would stop if there were no money to be made with it?
It would not stop but it would slow down heavily, people are not spending hundreds of thousands just for fun
>>8353824
Who said it would have been done to begin with if there was no money to be done
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>>8353818
>this board makes the best stuff and is in the know.
Mm.. nyo~
>>8353823
Too bright.
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>>8353829
yeah, base noob always felt hard to use for me but that personal mix solve all the problems I had with it

>>8353834
>Too bright.
wydm
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>>8353830
Lol, that sounds pretty bad, but I think you have to remember that they only had compute until the end of this year, was it to christmas or so? They were in a rush, these things take months of work, and you really have to sit down and look at the data and see what the model will "eat", it's unfortunate that due to time constraints not the best choices could be made.
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>>8353831
im also frustrated but when their main source of money is image gen, its gonna be super risky openly releasing anything and obviously they arent google or apple with 50 gorillion different streams of income
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>>8353823
fuck personalmerge
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>>8353836
does it take months of work to prevent yourself from downloading all of e621, a bunch of compressed anime screenshots and cosplay images and to add joycaption to random parts of the dataset? that's crazy
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>>8353836
one thing is not processing dataset
another is using webp versions of those datasets when full versions are freely available
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>>8353836
yes i agree, but the reason i put it under 'self sabotage' was specifically because of the nlp. ripping all of dan+e621 indiscriminately will be slopped sure, but tacking on broken NLP to try and wrangle SDXL into flux is a baker choice.
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And while you all are doing your thing about some new SDXL model and whatnot I'm here wondering what the fuck this mysterious lora/lycoris named PM-MAnon-XLV11.3-000017.safetensors is doing to my pony gens
It has no fucking metadata
No presence on Civit
It apparently used the lycoris kohya module, the metadata has that much, but I haven't found any scripts that can prod it for any potential words
So far it seems to react to 1girl, solidifying it into the anime sphere (we're talking the lora, blowjob, 1girl, pov prompts, with two undesirables as negatives) while the minimalized base pony spills its gooch all over the tiny prompt, and it seems to lean towards smaller girls
what is this
strange thing
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>>8353843
>pony gens
fuck off
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>>8353819
You made some nice, Hot and bothered backgrounds, anon.
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>>8353836
Anon. They had a plan. Then they deviated from that plan as soon as local started the infighting over what each individual wanted (e621 / furry / etc)
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>>8353841
sounds like incompetence or rushed. illus has their image scaling issues too (lanczos). you'd expect people to do better, but...

>>8353840
I don't know why he even went with e621. I think some anons here shilled it because they wanted dicks to look a certain way, maybe they were too used to pony. I like the way genitalia look in illus, but for some reason anons hate it, I never really liked the way they look in pony and even in animagine some things looked kinda bad. I guess you can blame whatever discord people convinced him into that.

>>8353842
illus 1.0 supposedly tried to do nlp like this, but I'm skeptical how well you can wrangle CLIP to do good nlp, seems unlikely to work too well.
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>>8353846
Maybe they shouldn't have asked for "help" on discord...
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>>8353848
It just baffles me how much shit is being thrown towards the wall over things that just works. NAI throws danbooru into a blender. It works. Illustrious throws danbooru into a blender. It works. Doing anything else has proven to be a bad turn. The only thing that's worth investigating is vpred.
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>>8353847
e621 was planned from the start. LAX is just a turboslopper, the kind of guy who downloads every skyrim mod and enables them all at once, the kind of guy to put every salt, pepper, sugar, and sprinkles on the same dish, the kind of guy who wears headphones on top of earbuds because it gives 'more music', the kind of guy who decorates every square inch of his lawn with the ugliest christmas inflatables he can find.
he sees data, he throws it in. the dataset will continue to grow to 40m+ images and not a single one will ever be deleted. that's just the kind of guy he is.
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>>8353849
>Illustrious throws danbooru into a blender. It works.
And is this "working" Illustrious model in the room with us right now?
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>>8353850
Fine, if he wants to do that, he better also add all of pixiv (with proper quality tagging and a very good nlp and booru auto tagger, otherwise it's useless), and kemono party too, there's a lot of good art on kemono?
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>>8353766
>>8353845
where's the /h/?
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>>8353852
It got most people off pony
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>>8353853
is there an ready-to-download 80% compressed huggingface dataset of them? if so just send him a link and he'd probably add it.
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>>8353852
NTA, but I'm using it now? Illustious with good prompting isn't considerably worse than Noob?
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>>8353853
he would need to scrap and tag those
too much effort
>>8353856
no, thats why we need someone to use compute on making a dataset instead of a shitty finetune
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>>8353856
No, and kemono might be of questionable legality (paid content), but why would anons give a fuck about that.
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>>8353859
Lol, if legality was a concern we wouldnt have any ai
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the leeching furfaggots have once again sabotaged local huh
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>>8353857
How many gacha pulls does it take until it produces a halfway coherent image?
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>>8353863
im getting a way better rate than with pony or noob for the matter
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>>8353338
Previous Thread Highlights

>TH_24-12-06_-hdg-_a.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/fa990t.jpg

>TH_24-12-06_-hdg-_b.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/kys123.jpg

>TH_24-12-06_-hdg-_c.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/d1ek3k.jpg
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https://x.com/lianyaneko/status/1861024026518519853
nai is pulling off stuff like this which looks incredible
imagine v4 jesus christ bros
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>>8353878
>melted to fuck eyes
>still isn't doing armpit spread properly
lmao
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>>8353832
>people are not spending hundreds of thousands just for fun
Not everyone is poor, there are _millions_ of people with net worth over $10 million dollars. If not a single one is spending that much, the problem is probably that the thing is just not fun enough.
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>>8353878
wait, 'nyalia' uses nai? i thought it was just another meme artist like blushyspicy or incase. local is actually training loras on nai outputs to cope? that's actually sad...
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>>8353878
Why is it so blurry?
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>>8353878
Its not nai tho
Also kek
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Isn't it actually better to start developing a better architecture that is smarter, more optimized and efficient in every way while priorizing quality output, instead of trying so hard to get hundreds of thousands of dollars for funds to train a brazillion-parameter model using old heavy slow tech that only people with at least an H100 can run it? I don't get it
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they just took flux-like arch and applied moe to it, why is it so hard for localturds to realize that
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NAI might be the only company to develop a state-of-the-art model and have it hold the title long enough to have it be dethroned by their next state-of-the-art model. Not even OpenAI can remain at the top for so long. Bravo!
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>>8353884
Yes it is
Who can do that? The best team cant get vpred working properly and you expect them to build a new arch from scratch without throwing some retarded shit that will break everything into it halfway through
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>>8353877
nyo nyo!
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>>8353884
don't use your braincells
stop asking smart questions
we don't do that here
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*cough* bros.. spare a little gen? *cough* p-please.. just one g- *cough*
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>>8353884
the person capable of developing said architecture is worth more than hundreds of thousands of dollars in compute. brutal blackpill to swallow, but that's why the work for saas and not for you.
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https://youtu.be/2aW7HweAf3o?feature=shared
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>>8353845
Thanks anon.

>>8353854
It's where it is when you inpaint it with a girl of your choosing. Look, the scenes are framed in a way that highlights the center of the image. These backgrounds were made for /h/. :^)
[spoiler]Originally there actually was a girl in those images but someone edited them out. They weren't /h/ though, just boring 1girl standing sfw since I wanted to focus on getting interesting backgrounds and not spend much time on rolling good anatomy back then with SD1.5, which if you remember was not great at that.[/spoiler]
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I've discovered ADetailer and it could be incredibly useful to me if only you could generate a batch from it. I usually manually send to inpaint, paint the face, change the prompt and generate a batch, then pick my favorite. ADetailer seems to only output a single result. Is there a way?
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>>8353884
24GB should be a minimum
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https://files.catbox.moe/1ypls9.png
https://files.catbox.moe/gdnese.png
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>>8353898
Didn't even take half of schizo'd thread for good gens to arrive.
A bit of personal request, can you do a standing split with the :3 expression? Preferably with high-leg leotard.
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>>8353884
implement this into your new cutting edge local architecture and you'll be ahead of nai
https://compvis.github.io/cleandift/
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>>8353338
God I love K-on girls
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>>8353901
more snakeoil!!
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>>8353900
I already posted some dumb tier meguca stuff earlier tho
https://files.catbox.moe/4ygsns.png
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>throw images into the civitai trainer, slap auto tags and select Prodigy
>it just works
>do the same locally with /hdg/s latest and greatest toml presets using all the REX CAME RAWR UWU AWA BBC VPRED SNR snake oil
>it's shit
You people really aren't as smart as you think you are.
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but can civit train on vpred though?
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>>8353911
bluvollkek...
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>>8353877
based based
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>>8353910
Noticed in hindsight. Good stuff.
What are your sources for ideas? Rewatching titles or they just manifest occasionally? Maybe some real-life inspirations? For instance, I saw a huge peppered moth on the wall one day, and thought "it's so fluffy and fuzzy, I'd fuck in a heartbeat if it was large enough". Been genning moth-girl lolis ever since.
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After looking at Illustrious gens for a while, I realized that it has a strong tendency to put eyes too far apart. Unfortunately, most of the artists I know of that draw eyes closer together are too /aco/ for my taste.
Didn't someone make an image library of all the Illustrious artists at some point? Does anyone have a link?
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>>8353915
anon you unironically need help.
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How fried is the christmas tag
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>>8353916
are you talking about base illu or noob? because on noob it's even worse
(it's also usually just one eye)
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>>8353915
technically speaking I'm a "creative" so dumb weird things isn't all that hard for me to come up with a lot of the time, provided I know of/am familiar with established characters. I randomly drifted into meguca because I saw a dumb homerun macro and just leaned into it.
and this set >>8353898 was done primarily so I had an easy way to fit in a signboard in a vaguely interesting and progressive way. And it's also missing an image, which is this
https://files.catbox.moe/zu3an5.png

Also probably helps that I'm not really into this to jerk off. Only reason I do so much porn is because porn is significantly easier to get feedback from - even moreso with AI shit.
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>>8353347
I don't think I've ever seen such quality gens in the highlights since the sd1.5 days
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>>8353916
Base Illustrious. Are you saying the eyes become asymmetrical on noob? To be honest I was already not convinced that noob brings any reliable improvements over Illustrious.
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Chunny-Li is enjoying her first winter
https://files.catbox.moe/tjkx0g.png
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>>8353919
>>8353924
Linked wrong post.
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>>8353925
Did her liver fail?
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What the FUCK does NAI "vibe transfer" actually do?
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>>8353929
it's ip-adapter
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>>8353921
So you do this shit for attention? Man... what a disappointment.
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>>8353921
>technically speaking I'm a "creative"
My second hand embarrassment/cringe at this statement is so deep that I'll probably lead the rest of my day in shame on your behalf and then kill myself
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>>8353929
expect local to figure it out in about 2 years
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>>8353936
Huh so it's basically magic.
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>>8353936
even if there was a paper on it people would just not read it anyways
just like vpred
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>>8353936
it's called ip-adapter
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>>8353933
it's in quotes for a reason.
I've got a background in digital design. Which is, quite literally, a "creative" field where you are actually taught to do sporadic dumb shit(lest you fail out before you even get anywhere).
It's not like I'm using the label in some hipster holier than thou way.
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>>8353933
FYI friend, when people put quotation marks around a word it's usually meant as ironic or to be read with skepticism
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>>8353933
I work in a creative field too, how else do you want to call it?
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>>8353940
>>8353941
nta but its still extreme cringe and quotation marks don't salvage it at all
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IP adapter
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my pee adapter
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>>8353940
>>8353941
>>8353941
I genuinely can't tell if there are this many anons with asspergers showing how they are "creatives" or if a single ESL retard is samefagging his own defense this hard. literally just say
>I work in a creative field
you absolute speds. the quotations do not work for ironic posting in this instance, lurk for a thousand years more if that's how you think it's done
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>>8353940
>i-i'm totally not some neurodivergent (read: retarded) zoomie genderblob faggot!
kys you're embarrassing
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>>8353940
>>>/reddit/
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>>8353947
omfg kys you fucking schizo might as well start spamming like you did in previous thread
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>>8353728
> to quietly exit the scene
> by spamming ****oids in /hdg/
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>8353950
Weak bait, try harder.
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>>8353947
Saying, "I work in a creative field," doesn't sound any less pretentious but ok
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>>8353953
no one cares about you or your spam, as usual
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>>8353954
I can tell you have some flavor of autism because you don't get it. this just makes it even cringier
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>>8353954
it does
still cringe but less cringe than the shit you wrote fucking sperg
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i bet birdfag is behind all the spam
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>>8353956
>>8353957
Says you two who can't even understand that the reason he used quotations is because he doesn't take himself seriously. Look in the mirror tards
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>>8353959
Is he your boyfriend or something? Kek
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>laying in bed
>can't fall asleep
>instrusive thoughts
>top most embarrassing memories
>"technically speaking I'm a "creative", m'lady"
>cringe myself into deaths sweet embrace
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>>8353960
I can only dream he'd notice me
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isn't it technically
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>>8353963
it is, whatchu gonna DO about it?
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If you work in a creative field you should just resign and live on the street, thats way better than being called cringe on 4ch
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We are all "creative" here
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>>8353968
Ackstually, it's technically a "creative"
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>>8353342
>3dgenning
What model? idk what
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smells like j-slurs in here
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>>8353969
ARIZ/TRIZ
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>>8353972
I identify as an egg, thank you.
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>>8353973
already cracked teehee!
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How much longer until euge tells the vpred channel he didn't listen to any advice, took the least logical next step and is just going to shitmix the remaining models instead of fix it?
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>>8353974
(testicular torsion)
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I am "based".
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>>8353975
dude has exams, cut him some slack
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>>8353369
do a finetune extraction instead
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>local bakers read the nai paper
>"pffff i can do better"
>BRRRRRRAAAAAPPPP
>model is shit
every single time
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>>8353973
ARIZ/TRIZ.
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>>8353980
He was like this before exams, too. How many excuses are you going to make while our best potential model continues straight down the toilet?
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>local bakers read the nai paper
>it's a fucking nothingburger
>thanks for nothing, nai
every single time
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>>8353979
"based" on "what"?
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>>8353984
what are (YOU) going to do about it doe?
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>>8353985
>Nai promised paper
>Can't write paper
>Don't even know what they did
>Make some shit up that sounds plausible
>Never expand beyond that by pretending it's just that local couldn't understand their mastery if they tried
I fully expect v4 to be an utter failure. for all the money they could throw at things they're barely more competent than local, and that's saying something
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>>8353765
> the furry model and their text models
???
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>>8353988
Bitch and cry about it here.
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>>8353990
what rock have you been under
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>>8353786
> all you need is paper and pencil
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>>8353989
cope
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>>8353367
Glad that kind of thing is in the works. I'll have to wait for a well-tested comfyui version.
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>be nai
>promise paper
>hate local utterly
>wait a year
>write a "we used gazillion gpu hours and tech you've all known and used before kek" 'tech' paper
thanks, nai
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>be nai
let the seethe begin
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>Check v predator channel
>It's nothing but a talking to himself about schizo ramblins, lost and confused like an elderly man with dementia
What was I expecting to see
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>Check noob channel
>EPIC pretending he knows calculus
Kek today has been humorous
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The whole site is laughing at us...
>>>/g/103432820
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>>8354001
Effort posters left half a year ago, this is shitting grounds now
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hdgbros why are we so retarded... why can't we just get excited for shitty-looking trash "animations" despite the mentally ill troon trying to shill it for 2 fucking years at this point????? yeah it looks like garbage but so WHAT?
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>>8354001
everyone is waiting for
a) something better than SDXL to save local
b) noob team to miraculously pull a semi functional vpred model out of their ass because it's not worth salvaging .45678 of a release for the 50th time
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>>8354005
but muh videorinos?!
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>Check PSmart AI's platinum V7 preview channels
>Scholarly discussion all around
>CivitAI researchers collaborating on new detection systems
>Dataset safety team hard at work
>Athenian debate being held over ExpressiveH vs Disney Princess XL LoRA
>All while being mindful of ethics
feels good to be ahead of the curve
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>>8353702
>we illegally fine-tuned on Flux
>we finally fixed the self-inflicted wound of tag-based prompting
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>>8354004
I appreciate the effort/attempts of the .MP4 poster, but I looked at his video of the cream pie that looked like the girls pussy was doing one long queef at Mach speed, felt my sides go into orbit and decided I wasn't interested in video models yet after all
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>localsaaaars too pathetic to admit nai's top-tier researchers developed a cutting-edge revolutionary architecture
>assumes they just stole flux
>causes local to finally get the fuck off sdxl and tune flux instead
odd angle, but it might actually work
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>>8354007
I don't know what their plan with Auraflow is going to be. Knowing it's pony, you'll probably going to stack loras but it also requires 24GB just to run the model.
If they're hoping for civit to carry everything for the model then that's devilish
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>>8354001
not our fault we have no janny and anyone wanting to shit the board is free to do so
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>>8354011
He wants to monetize it through his discord bot, it's that simple
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>NLP fagot still pushing his NLP grift
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>>8354012
saddly this
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>>8354012
wdym we have a janny, he comes by to spam the thread with low quality blacked images and ban the dangerous and foul criminals who utter j-slurs
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^ gen by janny
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>>8354019
Kek beat me to it
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do you guys think that janny is technically a "creative"
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>>8354016
it obviously wasn't him, he deleted 4 of the images and saved the thread
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>>8353917
Do fear not. I am a self-sufficient man, with plenty of undiagnosed heart conditions and 8mg of epinephrine stashed away.
>>8353921
Thanks for explaining, although I'm not sure how much of a quality feedback can be received here, or from dedicated lolicon audience. Both are usually the bottom of the barrel in my opinion, unless you count on collective brain or something along those lines
>>8354010
>finetuning a distilled model
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>>8353925
>glasses back
Based
>>8353927
Does he know?
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yeah i guess you could say i "speak" the american language
my family was rich enough to afford a tv
were kind of a big deal in our village
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>>8353369
simple answer: retain IN07/IN08/OUT00/OUT01/OUT05
proper answer: every lora is different, slice carefully, python scripts exist to edit lora layers:
https://archiveofsins.com/h/thread/8142246/#8142916

>>8353910
best girl
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negs in noob are a joke
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>>8354027
>Thanks for explaining, although I'm not sure how much of a quality feedback can be received here, or from dedicated lolicon audience. Both are usually the bottom of the barrel in my opinion, unless you count on collective brain or something along those lines
Feedback is feedback. Without any feedback you can't really improve.
And if nothing else, porn provides feedback of numbers going up, which can allow you to pretend to extrapolate. Meanwhile SFW won't even give you that(unless you try and parade it as non-AI - but that's going to require you to hit a bare minimum level of quality to begin with)
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>>8353995
Why do the colors look so fried?
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>1 minute gens
>locked behind anlas just like upscaling and more steps
>server outages
The future of v4.
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i see the cope has already begun
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seems like v4 is angling for a more efficient model, might be able to finally get over their nonstop Coreweave issues or dropped gens
it doesn't seem more capable, 16ch VAE or not, the results look like regular v3/furry
they've probably got something cooking, but they could just show results if that were the case. what they're showing is kinda bland.
nobody's out here clamouring for NLP, but having a more clever model is nice. that being said, for a visual product they're not doing a whole lot of visual communication.
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>>8354044
its a preview from an unfinished epoch, stop speculating about what the model might do or not and wait for it to finish to properly judge it
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>>8354045
it's a relevant point of discussion, and they themselves have deemed what they have as worth presenting at this stage, nobody put a gun to their head.
you can opt out of the discussion but I'd hardly call it speculation, extrapolation and assumption maybe.
I'm looking at the image generation space as a whole, and there is a wall for sure, I don't think NAI's gonna be the one to leap over it.
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i can't wait for v4 bros
>1girl, {{{{loli}}}}, 1boy, {{{{dark skinned male}}}}, vaginal, There are four sets of text of the word "plap." One floats to the top left of the vagina. The second floats to the middle right of the vagina. The third floats to the bottom left of the vagina. The fourth floats to the bottom right of the vagina.
it's so over for local
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they are showing how their model handles space prompt and character separation, of course it looks like shit, it wasnt a showcase of aesthetic ability.
Its not a relevant point of discussion because you are judging something and completely missing the point, what they were trying to show was exactly what they wanted to flex about and i really doubt any model besides Flux could do that consistently.
you can be critical of nai for plenty of valid reasons, but every innovation local got was due to putting together the junk they left behind, if anyone can jump over your wall its probably them.
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>>8354049
>>8354047
Im retarded
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>>8354048
This but unironically.
Local still trying to catch up to v3
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>>8354049
>but every innovation local got was due to putting together the junk they left behind, if anyone can jump over your wall its probably them.
>i really doubt any model besides Flux could do that consistently.
Pioneers of the industry, truly.
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When do they release NAI v4?
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>>8354053
Any dit model can do that
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>>8354036
its pony
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>>8354059
wtf v4 can do papyrus typeface?
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>>8354053
1.5 was a nai leak, they made a vpred model more than a year ago and local still cant figure that out
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>>8354053
This. There's barely any difference between a local group and NAI, and there's an abyss between them and OpenAI, SAI, BFL, etc.
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>>8354067
>SAI
please go back
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>>8354068
where?
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>>8354067
considering emad's shitbaking was the entire motivation behind v4, I'd hesitate to put sai a tier above anyone. maybe in 2022 sure.
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which has better hands, Illustrious or noobai?
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>>8354071
V4 uses mmdit which is first mentioned in the sd3 paper. anlatan is still lapping up stabilislop and that will never change.
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Check this shithole about every three months and the nai vs local autistic screeching never changes lmao. Anyway have a nun.
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>>8354072
pony
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>>8354079
hands, not paws
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jordach was the only one doing actual research.
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>>8354081
>doing actual research.
into retarded optimization measures
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>nyalia
youll never be a creative like me
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>>8354078
>nuns

based
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>>8354082
>jordach looking into maximally optimizing his model
>tree gets assassinated
>nai announces their v4 is so optimized it can run both bigger and faster
see how they steal from our king
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>>8354085
Another one just for (you)
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>>8354086
>tree gets assassinated
by his own genes
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>>8354077
lesbox?
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>>8354084
I legit cant gen anything I like without using the nyalia lora at 0.4, im getting expressivH
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>>8354046
>>8354028
me likey, box?
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can anybody find prompt inside this png?
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>>8354094
sure
>n****r
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Is there a way to gen on the same seed with the wildcard still rolling? I want to test some artist
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>>8354101
yes
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>>8354074
dit was first achieved by the Chinese, an individual (simoryu's lavenderflow/auraflow/etc.), and many others before nai
they are by no means leading.
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>>8354102
how?
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>>8354104
check unlink seed from prompt
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what's the correct version of anytest?
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>>8354106
doesnt work, it make the seed work as usual when I toggle this
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>>8354087
still based

needs more shame
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>>8354108
Some issue on your side then. Worked perfectly fine the last time I tested it
https://litter.catbox.moe/jc34gp.png
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>>>/g/103436769
How dic /hdg/ become the laughing stock of AI generals?
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>>8354111
ugh what the fuck could it be
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>>8354112
>How
uh, good morning sir
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>>8354059
Cute!
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>>8354112
Why are you trying so hard to signal boost your crossboard shitposts?
You did this here too >>8354001 and got ignored then too. I don't get it.
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>>8354097
No. I will not use your cuckmix, chudmix, personalslop merge, etc. n40 for the homies v2 is all I need.
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>>8353930
It's an IP adapter model specifically trained for a single finetune checkpoint. Just like the IP adapter we have on github works perfectly with 3d generic SDXL checkpoints, the one NoobAI releases will work perfectly with NoobAI checkpoint.
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so which negs should i use with noob?
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>>8354122
>the one NoobAI releases will work perfectly with NoobAI checkpoint.
It was released earlier this week. Vramlets can't use it and 24gb chads would rather train a lora. zeroshot is a meme
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>>>/g/103436769
>>>/g/103436826
Why did /hdg/ become the laughing stock of AI generals? Is it really because of NovelAI shills?
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>>8354126
>Vramlets can't use it
I've been using the regular IP Adapter with the regular SDXL models though? What changed?
Also I saw
>the initial version of IPA has been uploaded to Hugging Face
on Civit for 1.1 but couldn't find it on HF. Link please?
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>>8354130
It's because we're not allowed to split
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>>8354126
>Vramlets can't use
it works on 8gb
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>>8354132
https://civitai.com/models/1000401/noob-ipa-mark1
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>>8354111
I found what the issue was
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>>8354136
Still not on HF, shit. Thanks, gonna see how to set it up in comfyui.
>>8354135
Forgot to mention my own vram but yeah same, 8GB and ip-adapter-plus_sdxl_vit-h works fine with 3d.
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>literally any saas model
>look inside
>stable diffusion
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>>8354128
box me up please
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Fuck v4 can't come out soon enough
Nothing will ever beat the freesissy meltdown from v3, but I can already feel it's gonna be fun as fuck too :D
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>>8354100
The thumbnail I thought she had those big googly eyes.
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5k textposts for v4 release, screencapshot this
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new epoch or vpred this weekend euge-chan please...
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What's the best model for photorealistic porn rn? Last time I checked, it was some Pony mixes, which were okay at best.
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>>8354157
real life
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>>8354151
>We finetuned eps 1.2 for you this week to better capture kurumuz farting on local theme.
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>>8354160
SD1.5?!
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>>8354157
>>8354162
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>>8354148
Interesting..
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>>8354163
I'll try that.
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>>8354165
jesus wept
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>>8353517
> Is there any videogen that can run at home yet?
There are multiple, some are a bit dated (animatediff) others newer and better in most regards (hunyuan, ltx, ...)

What I posted was made locally with hunyuan.

> Does any videogen allows the creation of loops?
I think so, but I actually don't know if those were local.
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>>8354165
Surprised he stayed hard if she was wearing those.
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>>8354169
your vid is trash compared to ani's. the aom slop style should just be left buried
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>>8353898
>>8353910
>>8353921
You used to see twitter accuse people of passing AI as their own drawing, but now I have to accuse of the opposite: did you draw this or was it genned. It looks rather clean for a gen, background and everything, metadata obviously shows it's photoshop on all three, so maybe cleaned up or traced over an AI gen? I've had very flat gens before with some artists that draw sketches often, but usually it's slightly more noisy. So which one is it? Anyway, cute loli, reasonably consistent, is it some character, since no prompt in your catbox links.
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>>8354180
you new here? he has always used artstyle like that
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>>8354180
>background and everything
those are just white backgrounds though, what
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>>8354181
>>8354182
I haven't seen his posts before, but perfect white backgrounds are not as common with image gen models, I've had it happen sometimes, but his stuff looked a bit too clean, so I thought he probably cleaned up the gens after in photoshop (every image is saved as such, and there's never any prompt info in them).
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>>8354183
>but perfect white backgrounds are not as common with image gen models
your vpred, bro?
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>>8354183
He is one of this general's best posters as he is an actual creative type. A lot of manual work goes into his gens but most of it is AI generated. He does a lot of touch-ups though, I wouldn't be surprised if he spent a couple hours on each image.
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>>8354151
https://files.catbox.moe/7e1u1j.jpg
empty promises
still struggling a lot trying to implement vpred correctly, or the model is unsalvageable already as was like this since long ago
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>>8354183
>white bgs aren't common in ai gens
yeah because vpred zsrn whatever models aren't common and most xitters still use pony - or worse - some naileak shitmix
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how do people even make money off patreon with hentai diffusion? how did they get started?

I'm about to have my second child and some extra money every month would really help
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not even edm2 will save you now, local.
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>>8354185
This. Creatives rock!
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>>8354192
save us from what?
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>jordach comes along
>successful fundraiser
>local is saved, praise b--
>localtards *further* sabotage it by giving baking "advice"

>angel comes along
>local is saved, prais b--
>localtards sabotage it by emailing his boss for gibs
>shitposters justify this with the tried and true ”muh saas scraps" FOSScuck freetardation

>euge comes along
>local is saved, praise b--
>localtards COMPLETELY sabotage it by teaming up with the furfaggots and giving worse baking advice than fucking bluvoll
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tldr?
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>>8354196
brrrap
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>>8354196
We need a finetune of sd 3.5 to be in the running again and all the current projects with that goal are kinda underwhelming
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>>8354191
congrats anon but with all due respect you should've dropped all porn when you got your first kid
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>>8354191
stop playing with porn and actually do something worthwhile that will get you cash? the fuck? how did you get a first kid in the first place?
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>>8354194
from the incompetent failbake that noob is
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>>8354200
>how did you get a first kid in the first place?
youd think a general revolving around porn people would already have a basic grasp on procreation and how it works
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>>8354201
in the 1% chance this is the real turk
release it before Christmas I'll be too busy to use v4 after that
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>>8354202
back of the knee maybe?
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How do you control body proportions better on NAI? I tried putting loli in the negs but it doesn't help much.
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>>8354206
Just gen loli.
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>>8354206
https://danbooru.donmai.us/wiki_pages/petite?z=1
petite/skinny/loli/child
curvy/plump/shortstack
tall female
etc
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>>8354206
What are you trying to gen?
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>>8354211
A sexy horse.
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>>8354211
adult female
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>>8354211
My mother
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>>8354213
Ewwww!
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>>8354195
aren't all of those bakers retarded for taking bad advice in the first place?
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>>8353342
anyone else learning blender because of AI?
Textures are pretty shit in trellis but it's better than other 3d gens for getting most forms right imo
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>>8354218
unironically why would you do this for an actual use case (and not just messing around) when hs2 and koikatsu just werk?
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>>8354217
people usually ask for advice when they can't figure shit out themselves and it's hard to figure out what the digital equivalent of a black box with a gambling addiction and schizophrenia wants you to do

you can shift some of the blame on them, sure, but not even close to half
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>>8354223
then how tf do they get funding?

>>8354218
try the sf3d thing ani mentioned >>8353715
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>>8354195
at least make your shitpost factual sar
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>>8354224
investors (read: retard with a money to intelligence ratio of 100k:1) LOVE anything AI and ML spergs in general, it's never been easier for startups and randoms to get funding, all you need to do is mention AI, just look at the rabbit r1 (it's not a coincidence that most of these are either grifts for barely functioning products or outright scams)
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>>8354226
no lies detected
fact-checked by the guy who made the post
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>>8354228
i just deboonked it
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>>8353831
They open source models once they retire them from the website. The next in line would probably be V2 at some point.
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>>8354231
Did they release v1 weights officially? If not, why? Because the leak made it redundant? Or do they only open source the code and not the weights?
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>>8354219
creating models without the base proportions of hs2/koikatsu? what about males? those are pretty shit from those games

>>8354224
stability fast 3d is way worse (from 4 month ago?) unless I miss something?
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>>8354231
then shouldn't we retire their whole website?
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>spitefags
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>>8354233
They did.
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>>8354218
how did you animate
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>>8354239
blender retard
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>>8354240
>ask innocuous question
>tells me to kill myself in a blender
okay fuck you too i guess
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>>8354236
Well, go do it then, sissy. Or just keep kvetching in every AI general, lmao.
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>>8354242
>>8354240
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>>8354236
If they go under they have no reason to release anything at all.
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>>8354197
Excuse you?
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>>8354001
>baiting with my post
Fuck you.
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>>8354059
Amazing
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>>8354248
requesting farting lora for illu/noob sars
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>>8354255
It's in the oven, just hang in there!
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>>8354258
>>8353692
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>>8354260
Sorry I am retarded
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>>8354260
lol
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I've heard that in Murrica you can sue anyone for any minor inconvenience. Why you still didn't snitch kurumuz csam generator website to the authorities?
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>>8354174
don't know either of these. the slop will progress
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>>8354267
nyhahahaha
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>>8354130
This anon nailed it >>>/g/103436826
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>>8353389
I use parsec to gen at work
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>>8354273
where do we go
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>>8354275
finally some good fucking food
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>>8354276
The 'cord ;)
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>>8354276
lora training general
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>>8354276
migrate to /fart/
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>8354264
this is why chileans don't deserve internet access
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>>8354276
Wherever you go, I'll follow :3 Don't worry, I will not let you forget about NAI's existence.
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Why does Illustrous often give the girl only 4 fingers? Any prompts to stop?
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>>8354286
the only way is to purchase an NAI subscription, sorry man
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>>8354037
nice hair
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>>8353927
It's her natural skincolor you racist
>>8354029
She has different colored pairs
https://files.catbox.moe/4eflj0.png
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>>8354288
>>8354291
Tasty
Post some thighjobs
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>>8354275
box?
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>>8354289
Be serious. I ain't gonna inpaint fucking fingers in 2024!
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>>8354296
illustrious is overtrained on digital art, which is by design of course, but artists fucking suck at hands
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>>8354295
stealthdata
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>>8354294
genning some rn
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>>8354298
ah didn't noticed, thanks anon
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>>8354297
The issue is that it actually just forgets to gen the 5th finger like half the time. The hands and fingers look fine for the most part, it's just one hand is missing a fucking finger too often.
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Any other users of the new easyscripts fork here?
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i use naifu
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>>8354301
this is pretty common in real art, the pinky can often not be seen
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>>8354157
I used this
https://civitai.com/models/80473/pornmaster-pro

for this
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gd1qykAXsAAo2Ru?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

I did a big grid of all the pony realism mixes and I like the look most
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>>8354311
oh he also added an illustrious based one for this shitmix, I used the pony one
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>>8354163
Do people really use 4 different models and 6 different checkpoints to generate a single image?
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>>8354309
>>8354315
Good, nice
I really appreciate your gens cuz of the body shape, small breasts + sexy toned thick lower body is so damn good, you have great taste anon
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>>8354316
short small breasted bottom heavy tiger girls for life
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I tabbed in to this and honestly got scared, what the actual fuck.
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>>8354320
me on the left
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>>8354320
me on the left but latino
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>>8354142
>>8354225
>>8354266
is this suppose to be a recreation of that one doujin
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>Be comfy user
>Be linux user
>Get crypto miner
https://blog.comfy.org/comfyui-statement-on-the-ultralytics-crypto-miner-situation/
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>>8354320
>dark skinned male
Get him boys
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>>8354323
Nah, I'm just on my jirai kei phase and prompting whatever comes to mind.
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>I-I don't need NAIv4, it's basically just regional prompter!
>$25 a month for porn is too much!
>Overcooked gookslop is good enough for me!
God, you people are so pathetic. I feel secondhand embarrassment just from reading these threads.
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>>8354329
dude just say "cringe"
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>>8354329
>poorfags who cant even afford a graphics card to gen local bitching about $25 a month
its almost like nogen opinions dont matter
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Use this post to call out any nogen complainers
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>>8354311
Thanks.
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Where does that new easyscripts fork save the loss/validation loss metrics?
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>>8354334
tensorboard/wandb?
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>>8354329
NAIv4 is just an anime fine-tune of SD3.5. All it takes for NoobAI to catch up is to replace a path in the config.
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>>8354319
Fuck yeah
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>>8354325
Can you gen some footjobs please?
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Typing bracket escapes is annoying. There's no natural flow for putting your fingers into that position.
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>>8354341
Skill issue :D Use the tag autocompleter, it does it for you.
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For 25 a month I could rent a supercomputer from Nzxt. Maybe even win a Fortnite tournament, get all my money back.
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>>8354336
sd3.5 doesnt use flux vae sar
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>>8354344
kek didn't think i'll see that here
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Ah yes, 25$. My best investment into an online service
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>v4 isn't even out yet
>schizos are already melting down about le 25 dollarinos
Grim
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>>8354351
stoopid grimposter
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>$25 a month to make $5000 a month off patreon bux
lol retards
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>>8354326
using comfy on linux and I am unaffected by this.
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>>8354361
NAI GODS
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>>8354344
best of all - NO STRINGS ATTACHED!
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its pony
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>>8354362
? This is local.
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>>8354373
Why is she pale while?
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>>8354374
>He's never jacked off to wii fit
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>>8354374
Are you new to the internet?
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>>8354375
>>8354377
Never had a wii, that's why. Now it makes snse.
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>>8354358
proof?
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>>8354378
you missed out anon, the wii has as many great games (xenoblade chronicles isn't one of them btw) as it has shovelware
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>>8354380
read the link that was posted. Comfy didn't include it, it was some custom nodes things that did (which I don't have)
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>>8354378
Bro porn of her has been made by the dozens. If you have not ever seen her visage, I can only assume that you've been living under a rock, or some kid finally getting unsupervised internet access or something.
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https://files.catbox.moe/yp5h76.png
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Sooo uhhh, localusers haha... Am I right?
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Local more like locust.
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>v4 is exclusive to our new tier: NAI Pro
>only $200 a month
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>>8354320
His breasts are even bigger than hers... gen more of him?
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nobody is even talking about nai atm and claudefag still keeps melting down about it
honestly him being an unconventional nai shill doesn't seem that unlikely
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>>8354404
They already make more than that a month by charging for extras.
The f2p of saas truly.
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>>8354329
$25 to have 1% of the control over the creation that local has is too much.
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>>8354410
anon we both know you don't even have adetailer installed, let alone fucking regional cope
you've never inpainted once in your life either
>b-but muh potential
local truly is the digital equivalent of a shitty rusted abandoned quarter-finished mazda shitata project car sold on craigslist for 50k
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>>8354266
box please
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>>8354345
SD3.5 also has a 16ch VAE.
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>>8354404
id pay up extra anlas if they added higher res options
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Anyone genning anything today?
https://files.catbox.moe/t420lc.png
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>>8354425
v4 has a 16ch vae, no ridiculous resolutions needed anymore
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>>8354425
do you really need them though? v3 shines at 1.5k res, anything above that is just diminishing returns even if you take the cost out of the equation
why not just scale them up with some GAN upscaler?
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>>8354426
If you insist
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>>8354426
We hate gens here
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>>8354091
https://files.catbox.moe/86pn2i.png
https://files.catbox.moe/kin7f6.png
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>>8354433
ty
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>>8354426
nyes
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>>8354419
Not only SAAS will never allow the same level of control that local has because its dangerous for them but they are as trustworthy as every form of entertainment in the current day.
Either you are a NAI employee or you are one of those that say "You will own nothing and you will be happy".
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why does she have a cow bell
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>>8354449
probably ganyu's fault with a shared tag
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>>8354448
i understand people not being willing to pay for ai masturbation aid or are only interested in training loras but this "muh control" argument is garbage. what control do you need? being able to test 100 shades of euler heun cfg+++++ samplers? all those complicated workflows get thrown into the trash when a more capable model releases.
localfags were coping with controlnet being a solution to every fucking issue when v3 was released, and still immediately tossed 1.5 into the trash when pony they got pony despite it lacking controlnet at that time.
i mean i guess it's an issue if you have some extra-obscure waifu that models don't know out of the box but that's it.
i
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>>8354453
i don't think that that would effect the official art
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https://files.catbox.moe/av5s0n.png
>>8354431
faceless slimegirls is a fun concept

>>8354432
we must stand against the nogen menace

>>8354444
this a new bratty BA girl? Stopped playing so long ago now.
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>>8354454
control is about owning your workflow you soulless cretin, nai being able to pull the plug on you at any time makes it worthless
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>>8354449
¿box?
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How plausible is that Anlatan actually trained an AI to shitpost on /hdg/?
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>>8354462
https://litter.catbox.moe/mf9n5s.png
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>>8354458
Professor Nya.
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>>8354464
the mentally ill do it for free.
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>>8354459
Do my NAI images disappear to after they pull the plug? Am I not allowed to switch to local if NAI disappears?
Also, you seem to be angry. Why?
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>SaaS
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>>8354170
Nice Klaras
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god i want to lick the sweat in between her breasts so much
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>>8354419
who the fuck doesn't have adetailer in the workflow in 2k24? lmao
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>>8354469
If their payment processors tell them to cut your dick, they will ask "how small?".
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>>8354480
everyone with more than 8gb of vram?
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>>8354482
good post
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>>8354480
>who the fuck doesn't have adetailer in the workflow in 2k24? lmao
NTA but has been ages since I ditched adetailer
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>>8354481
fucking owned
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>>8354180
https://files.catbox.moe/0agb7s.png
https://files.catbox.moe/dcw2r9.png
https://files.catbox.moe/yn43lm.png

my 'gimmick'(if you want to consider it one) has generally been to make AI output... not look like AI. And I achieve that end by doing a chunk of cleaning/redrawing in post to get rid of artifacts and fill in details that aren't really possible. Also generally a lot of composites for image set stuff, with an emphasis on making sure as much of the image remains as static as possible(you know, like 'real' image sets),
If you know where to look there's still signs of being AI but if you have to get to that point I've basically already "won." That said I don't try to pass things as non-AI.
> Anyway, cute loli, reasonably consistent, is it some character
it's just the OC donut steal I've ran with for over a year and a half at this point. I don't post her all that much anymore, though.
>>8354185
>I wouldn't be surprised if he spent a couple hours on each image
Workflow can be anywhere from 5-30 minutes in photoshop depending on how complicated things are. If I "take" hours to do something it's only because I'm doing other shit inbetween.
>>8354184
>>8354187
I'm on eps tho :^) (even pony could get flat white backgrounds with no noise)
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>>8354483
You mean with less? Adetailer takes ages to gen on 8gb, I had to stop using it because of that.
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>>8354485
What are you using instead? Just inpaint?
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>>8354489
It's still a lot cheaper /faster than simply upscaling the whole image. If you can gen with deepshink at 1.5 base res and then scale it up further with conventional hr-fix for a low tech iterative upscaling workflow, you really don't need adetailer anymore.
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>>8354459
you're saying this as if image generation is an activity that your whole fucking career depends on and not just a fun activity you do in your free time
true freetard brainrot
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>>8354492
>deepshink
What's that?
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>model : nai
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>>8354491
Yeah, plain inpaint after I upscale the whole thing
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>>8354499
>chrome
>adblock
hmmmm
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>>8354495
You're shitting up these threads like your life depends on it instead of having fun with image generation while your sub is still up.
True NAIkek brainrot.
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>>8354500
How come the spic is the only one that understands that you upscale before inpainting? (for details at least)
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>>8354506
i don't shit up those threads and i am not subscribed to nai, just calling out freetard bullshit
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>>8354508
nai is also just shit compared to pony, you are paying for an objectively worse service
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>>8354509
true, pony is the pinnacle of imagegen
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>>8354509
NoobAI, on the other hand..
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Now how do I get that fancy loss/validation loss graph that tells me when my model is done?
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>>8354513
go spank kohyas ass
https://github.com/kohya-ss/sd-scripts/pull/1165
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can't wait for v4 to come out and there's only 3 people posting images from it, because everyone else sucking corporate cock are j-slur larping trolls that can't afford the $25
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>>8354516
The new easyscripts fork already has that implemented. I'm just clueless about tensorboard and how to combine the two curves
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if Nai is so good, why does no one post Nai gens?
Check and mate, kurumuz
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>>8354517
i hope they don't
this shithole doesn't deserve noob gens either really
it deserves pony forever
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This so much this
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>>8354520
Wonder why you continuously hang out here when you hate it so much
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Long time break
Can someone please tell me whats the differance between Forge and reForge?
Also, is AutismMix SDXL not the "main" model anymore?
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>>8354526
Noob is the model now, reforge is old forge with updates by a guy here, forge is illya's shitting grounds that he breaks and doesn't care about quality updates on now. if you plan to use flux use forge, if you don't care about flux use reforge
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>>8354526
Forge has a nice inpainting tool. Reforge has more samplers and schedulers to choose from.
Model wise you might want to check out NoobAI finetunes.
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>>8354524
nta but your question is like asking why people go to zoo
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>>8354526
autismmix is still on par with everything, some autists will tell you illustrious based models are a step up but it's just same generation quality but a bit different
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>>8354526
Reforge is a legacy version of forge that comes pre-bloated with unnecessary snakeoil that won't make your gens better. Best models at the moment are noob eps0.5 (stable) and noob vpred 0.6 (unstable)
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>>8354529
>goes to zoo
>I fucking hate these animals, they deserve nothing
>lol anon why do you go to the zoo then
>REEEEE
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The zoo is AAAS since I can't own it
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>>8354537
is the zoo Nai now
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>>8354533
more like
>goes to zoo
>look at some retarded apes screeching and throwing shit at each other
>throw them a banana
>leave
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>>8354513
i think these are computed at the end of each epoch, you will not get a smooth graph with a small number of epochs
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>>8354537
>>8354538
https://youtu.be/3IC76o_lhFw?si=4MJ3OxIGvR9jEf4X
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>>8354537
This, imagine being a retarded goyslave cattle who buys things
we die either way fucking retard
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What's the best NoobAi merge right now?
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>>8354528
What inpainting tool?
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>>8354543
whatever shitmix euge craps out tomorrow since they haven't applied the basic fixes provided to them yet
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>>8354544
the img2img one, let's you zoom with scroll and pan with right click for better control over the mask
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>>8354540
I could just set it to calculate validation loss more often for a smoother graph if I wanted that, but my problem rn is that I don't know how to display the average loss curve and average validation loss curve in the same graph
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>>8354527
>>8354528
>>8354531
>>8354532
Thank you guys
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>>8354542
>Buy a season ticket for the zoo
broke
>Buy a cat
woke
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>>8354552
Cats are inherently superior to all of the animals in the zoo so this adds up
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>>8354469
NTA, but it's obvious that if you got used to doing things one way, you will hate it if you have to do it another way. In this case, v4 will have NLP so you will get used to that and you will find it unsatisfactory to not have it.
We'll eventually have models that can do NLP as well, but it depends on people doing the work and a few dozen thousands $ in compute being spent, which could be a long while or a short while depending on effort people put in.
The problem is similar to locusts that really missed when Claude Opus was gone (aicg), local is certainly much closer or if you're willing to shell out for about 1 terabyte of VRAM you can runn zuck's llama-3-405b (okay, I'm kidding, some 256GB of RAM might be okay, and it will be painfully slow on CPU), of course most people will settle for 70bs, and some sub-130b's that are quite good and only need 3-4 3090s to run well.
But you get what I mean, you will want the same thing as you had before. I know this because I played with GPT-3 (davinci) when it first came out and missed it for a while, and now you know what, OpenAI killed it, retired it and never released the weights. Now we do have a lot of good LLMs, but even if you had something equivalent, you can't get it back if it's a SaaS and they never give you the weights, you're under their control, it doesn't matter how "good" their intentions may be.

>>8354488
Thanks, makes sense. I've gotten noiseless backgrounds before, but often there's ways to tell it's AI even then. The character seemed somehow familiar, thought it was something I may have seen, but I guess it's OC!
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>zoo filled with busty catgirls
get genning
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>>8354552
>gen catgirls
woker
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>>8354537
Animals as a service?
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>>8353894
Do you still have the others? I only saved/edited those two.
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>>8354548
>how to display the average loss curve and average validation loss curve in the same graph
you simply don't? why would you want that anyway? tensorboard only logs a single metric for each graph, you'd have to take the data and plot it manually if you want to combine two graphs
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>>8354389
Oh nyo~. Anon, she'll catch a cold.
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>>8354509
if nai is so bad why do you cope so much?
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>>8354561
>why would you want that anyway?
Idk, all explanations on val loss I found included some graph like this and I was hoping there was some automatic way to get something similar.
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so no vppred again this week huh

owari da...
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>>8354555
>I've gotten noiseless backgrounds before, but often there's ways to tell it's AI even then
Noiseless white is mostly a training issue(I do all of my own lora training and know how to get around that). But even without that it's usually a pretty easy fix by magic wanding the background color, masking out a levels layer and adjusting to flatten out the white(or black). For other colors you can usually get away with using a paint bucket at 3~ tolerance(you might still end up with some fuzzy jpg looking artifacts around the character but the background will at least be flat).
>The character seemed somehow familiar, thought it was something I may have seen
She lives in my lora previews, so if a girl in a brown serafuku with black hair, black eyes, hair over one eye and a side ponytail sounds familiar it might be from those.
otherwise the closest named character I can think of is probably ame-chan from needy girl overdose.
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>>8354170
thank you anon,
klara is truly one of the best pokemon characters ever created
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>>8354564
you don't need to compare val loss to train loss, in most cases you can judge how well the model performs by simply looking at the validation loss and finding its minimum
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>>8354559
where is my government issue breedable catgirl/bunnygirl/wolfgirl
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>>8354570
>hyped new feature
>you don't need it
alright then
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>>8354560
I mean, I do still have them, but I don't think they're very good now. I'm fairly certain you could do better nowadays with Flux, and then as usual inpaint with Noob or something to get your /h/.
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>>8354573
retard
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>>8354564
literally just screenshot the charts and paste them to chatgpt or Claude and it'll read them for you or teach you how to read them
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>>8354577
nah, I found an answer on stack overflow. I'll have my multi-curve graphs, just you wait!
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Does anyone remember an extension that allowed you to play around with various values that let you affect the artstyle greatly? Even letting you randomize it
I think it was called
>Style components xl
But i cannot find it anywhere
I swear im going crazy i've been using it 8 months ago just fine but now it's gone
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>mfw I only just now realized var strength doesn't change the weight of a tag
I'm a fucking idiot
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>>8354579
dementia
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>>8354579
Was coolio still alive in your world line?
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>>8354579
Civitai, literally the first link. Next time ask chatgpt.
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>>8354582
fuck, i forgot he died.
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>>8354542
You can't take your money with you either way, so why not spend some on fun shit?
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anyone tried this?
https://github.com/asagi4/ComfyUI-NPNet
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>>8354584
My bad.
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>>8354595
>it's not your usual noise, it's GOLDEN noise!
fucking kek
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>>8354599
why does golden noise sound like some pissfag fetish term with a 3 letter hash on pony
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>>8354601
you sound like a latent pissfag
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>>8354595
the paper:
https://arxiv.org/pdf/2411.09502
installed the extension, truncates the prompt if its more than 77 tokens, also it complains about the latent not being square but works fine nonetheless. On first glance it doesn't do much, will test more.
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>>8354582
>>8354585
Damn RIP brother. At least he lived to see 24.
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>>8354444
box?
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anyone tried offering a live chicken as a sacrifice before hitting gen?
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how would you explain the fact that people are intentionally creating this >>8354609 and posting it here
the problem is not with pony, not aom, not noob, it's with the people's taste being absolute trash-tier
they will gen the same shit no matter which model they are given because they have brain damage
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>>8354613
i'm trans btw
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>>8354612
uuhh what
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>>8354615
fuck off to /aco/ already retard
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>>8354612
I was plucking duck feathers yesterday while i was training a lora, does that count?
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>>8354619
Did the lora turn out well?
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>>8354609
box?
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>>8354622
no
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>>8354618
hm..... nyo!
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>>8354613
You gen generic anime sameface 1girls in order to fit in on an anonymous FBI honeypot while everybody else just makes things he enjoys. How sad.
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>>8354612
the southern hemisphere genners are in the thread again, i see.
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>>8354623
https://files.catbox.moe/rflppu.png
i was surprised she had even 100 results on danbooru, let alone 800
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>>8354629
>more loras than prompt
Impressive. Very nice. Let's see Nyo Anon's catbox.
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>>8354626
>generic anime sameface
holy kek
for posting generic western troon woman sameface there's /aco/
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>>8354634
>over a dozen artists
>two dozen loras
I'm glad we escaped Pony's clunky score tags.
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>>8354629
based, ty
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I got a question about LoRAs. Will stacking a whole bunch of style LoRAs lead to instability? In that case, shouldn't I combine all of these styles into a single lora to prevent that?
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>>8354642
moreso depends on total weight from all of the style loras used, using two loras at 0.5 will produce the exact same image as one at 1.0, and 1,000 at 0 won't affect it at all
having a lot only really runs into problems when styles begin to clash with each other
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>>8354458
seems like she's your Gen muse bro kek
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>>8354574
>I'm fairly certain you could do better nowadays with Flux, and then as usual inpaint with Noob or something to get your /h/
Interesting. Looking forward to that if you have the time.
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>>8354642
merging the lora blocks has more control than shoving the stack in on top so you can massage things into something that works rather than coping with balancing strength and clip strength until it converges properly. only worth doing on a combo you are committed to
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>>8354642
>I got a question about LoRAs. Will stacking a whole bunch of style LoRAs lead to instability?
I stacked 3 different loras while using pony, didn't have any problems whatsoever
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>>8354609
giving this one a based due to also being a venat fucker
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>>8354649
>I stacked 3 different loras while using pony,
Whoa
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https://files.catbox.moe/67eyo6.webp
Why is the Civit trained version so damn smooth compared to my locally trained slop? What snake oil settings are they using behind the curtains? (V2 is a Pony version I downloaded just to see if it works, not mine)
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Do we still need to search for funny tags and score_9s or is there a decent model that's not pony?
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>>8354656
its called illustriousxl 0.1
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>>8354655
Sorry, which version is supposed to be best?
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>>8354644
Makes sense
>>8354647
I'm thinking of just curating 10-20 styles I like using and just making a giant lora out of it. Even when Noob knows styles, it tends to be weak at replicating them.
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>>8354662
The one that is most accurate.
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>>8354676
kinda hard to judge without images from the training data
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not quite 2D hentai, but does anyone know the exact terms to prompt Dead or Alive's artstyle? It's like a 3D render.

I'm guessing the terms might be something like "3d style, render"
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>>8354682
https://hitomi.la/artist/takatsu-all.html
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>>8354686
If you are on illustrious/noob, it actually can do a pretty decent impression of DoA's style by prompting "3d, dead or alive"
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>>8354655
what's civit's training resolution?
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>>8354692
1024
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>>8354686
You're better off looking for a jeetmix which focuses on 3d or 2.5d. Base illu/noob and its anime mixes will struggle. Even with loras is still not quire right. Just better to run a model for flat and another for 3d.
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>>8354432
boxu?
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shower time
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Can anyone share their reForge settings?
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>>8354706
What did they mean?
>>8354707
What did he mean by this?
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>>8354707
No.
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>>8354708
shower talk obviously anon
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>>8354707
euler a
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>>8354707
euler, hold the a
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>>8354655
can you share settings for civit? have some spare saarcoins, so i can try it
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>>8354718
Everything default except with Prodigy @ 1.0 LR
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>>8354720
ty
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>>8354714
why so blurry
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>>8354723
e
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>firefox through vpn, catbox doesn't work, can't open any links or even the frontpage
>any other browser with the same vpn and server it works fine
>no interfering scripts installed or anything
???
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>>8354707
skip clip 2
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why are there 4 ai threads and why are they literally exploding in activity? what happened?
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>>8354449
she has one by default officially?
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>>8354744
why though
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>>8354534
damn camellya sexo, forgot what those flowers are called but they works impressively well, box?
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>>8354746
she yearn for the milking machine
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>>8354742
sir? your groid spam image limit of 300?
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>>8354742
this board is fucking dead and takes literal weeks to have a thread die
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>>8354747
https://files.catbox.moe/qwymrb.png

I just put flower field and spider lily, the other 5 petal flowers are likely influenced by the one in her hair from her lora it looks like
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>>8354758
Ty, yeah that was spider lily flowers
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>>8354762
>not a groid
fix that asap
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Rough day at the office
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>>8354680

Catbox please?
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>>8354758
Interesting, when I run your workflow I get this
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>>8354767
No idea about comfy configuration, I'm on reforge ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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>>8354772
Ohhh that's interesting that an image made in reforge can create a comfy workflow. Learn something new every day
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>>8354762
>rin
brave anon actually posting them wholoids
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>>8354773
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>>8354562
It's worth enjoying the snow for

>>8354645
I'm trapped
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>>8354758
Thanks for the inspiration
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what's the better vpred now? 0.6?
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>>8354789
the unreleased one
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>>8354714
https://files.catbox.moe/t4bvsx.jpg
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>>8354794
kino
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>>8354794
why naiv4 when you can just inpaint hard? you just get a 4090 and do rerolls at the speed of light and done
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>>8354799
Whoops, meant for >>8354422
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>>8354800
but anon I need to gen a red circle on a green box on a blue triangle in ainiwaffles style
I need v4 for that
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>he still believes in the vsmeg snakeoil
crazy how a fake paper made by a single turk in chatgpt managed to sabotage local and set it back months
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>>8354805
your grey sepia sir?
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>>8354802
train a lora with your 4090 using outputs that has the style of ainitroon and then inpaint the red circle on a green box on a blue triangle using the lora you trained
youre welcome
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>>8354801
neat, thank you
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>>8354808
my oversaturated color burn? what about it?
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>>8354816
No problemo
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It's just $25
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>>8354782
classic
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>>8353473
>https://files.catbox.moe/s3xosu.png
>https://files.catbox.moe/06cv0q.png

>>8354701
https://files.catbox.moe/zr22hr.png

>>8354794
based, inpaint god, etc etc
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it's out
https://civitai.com/models/550017
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>>8354826
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS?
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>>8354826
Do you think god stays in heaven because he fears what man has created on earth?
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>>8354782
I recently saw those loras while browsing myself. Based taste, anon.
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>>8354762
sexy pose, but I think her proportions are scuffed
https://files.catbox.moe/du621r.png
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>>8354836
I was also going to point that out but got sidetracked and forgot to.
illustrious derivatives in general seem to have very slight proportional wonkiness when doing landscape aspect ratios and can occasionally do weird anatomy like that, among other things.
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>>8354191
cute sona, box?
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>>8354373
catbox?
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>>8354191
You can take the scummy approach I see some Pixiv artists take: make a set of images, some clothed, some nude. Post the clothed ones along with previews of the nude ones to Pixiv. Link your Patreon in the description of your post and tell that the nude images can be found there.
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>>8354844
>tell that the nude images can be found there.
nude is probably safe but just dont mention anything about censor/uncensored because thats a ban
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>>8354845
Yep, good tip.
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Really? right in front of migu?
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Oh shit boys here we gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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I wonder how and why the bot just randomly seems to stall out and other times it goes hard across a minimum of 4 IP's.
Sure is quite the mystery.
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>>8354864
Really sure is not a bot but a single bored anon doing it
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3k post NEVER EVER meanwhile groidbot-sama is around, textchuddies.
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So it has begun
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nogens cant stop losing, /hdg/ is so fucking back
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Bro, don't forget to add some 2hoes to your wildcard
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Is he still melting about naiv4?
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ngl, I'm not bothered with the art EXCEPT for the lips, come on man.
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>>8354608
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>>8354869
I'm more comfortable with some autist spending hours creating a shitty bot that coordinates across multiple machines hooked up to a vision model to solve captcha's and spam than I am with someone actually wasting their life looking at 4 vm's and manually selecting and uploading files one at a time while typing in the captcha themselves.
The first is at least FUTURE tier with a barrier of entry. The later is just sad and disappointing.
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>>8354889
We are hitting heresy levels that shouldn't be possible
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>>8354836
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>>8354837
inpaint on mating press really wants to insert the 1girl
pretty sure I had it removed, but it must have snuck back in like how his other calf went wonky
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>>8354881
i kneel to groidbot-sama
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>>8354896
Wonder if this is the same autist who has melties on /trash/ when someone posts Sailor Mars. Guy is unhinged.
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The black cock... Ah, that takes me back
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>>8354826
Funny how I have seen this fetish before and there is even a vn with that theme but the male vase is kinda new to me.
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>>8354909
A-anon?
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>>8354909
please be feminine
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>>8354909
when you were in your mothers womb?
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bros... did we lose? how do we combat this? haaalp
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Icantbelieveitsnotfece
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>>8354929
go bitch at a mod on IRC
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>>8354929
just post naiv4 gens
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the power of posting one (1) migu
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>>8354908
Could you throw out a box on one of these genuinely curious what the base prompt is. Also you are using wildcards, right?
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>>8354929
Fuck if I know. I tried reporting it last time and only the particular post I reported was deleted. Guess it didn't occur to the mod handling it that if a post is being reported for "spam/flooding" it might not be the only offending one.
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>>8354948
precumn
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>>8354948
Thankies~
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>>8354951
the funny thing is that, supposedly, for spamming/flooding you're only supposed to report one post and if you do any more than that you get banned for abusing reports.
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0.75S is up. Dunno it's the one from huggingface.
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>>8354948
I kneel, gen+catbox chad
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>>8354969
>0.75S
hori sheeet
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>>8354969
>ANOTHER vfried instance
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>>8354969
the 's' stands for shitmix
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Why sudden stop?
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>>8354975
check the image limit bwo
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https://civitai.com/models/833294
0.75S is out
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>>8354974
more like stop
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>>8354969
is it just me or are the eyes starting to look like cascade
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>>8354976
Image limit is just a number. We need to go even further beyond
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>>8354977
>those samples
YIKES
We are reaching levels of downgrade never thought possible.
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Hi my name is Neggles
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kewl new oil from a snake
https://x.com/dreamingtulpa/status/1865316587269689486
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>After a two-week interval, Laxhar Lab has updated the NoobAIXL-V pred version to 0.75S. We have noticed that NovelAI v4 is already in training, and we are very grateful for their work. This also indicates that our fans' urging for updates has yielded some results. Everyone is looking forward to something new for the anime model. Speaking of which, the new developments in version 0.75S are as follows:
>the massive amount of LAX fans are what convinced NAI to start work on V4
just how powerful is he??? a true man of the people
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>>8354983
>>8354977
>shit hands on most of them
>just melting clothes and body everywhere
>(ai:1.3) eyes
At least we have a nice timeline of the de-evolution and downgrade of the model from 0.5 forward.
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>>8354977
>We have noticed that NovelAI v4 is already in training, and we are very grateful for their work. This also indicates that our fans' urging for updates has yielded some results.
Based noticers. v4 is only a thing ow because of LAX.
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>>8354973
kill yourself
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>LAX
How can one man be this based?
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>>8353728
told you. it's all a part of his plan. noob will finish right upon the release of v4
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>>8354990
Right back at you, shillman
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alright, 'roid spammer, continue
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Is no one going to bake? lol
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bake? in 2024?
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>>8354996
>PLEASE bake a new thread so i can threadshit spam even though catboxes let me post images just fine!
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>>8354995
>>8354996
>>8354998
>>8354999
vpn samefag
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>>8354454
>>8354419
>>8354495
basado
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>>8355000
kill yourself
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https://files.catbox.moe/us21xo.jpg
0.65 0.75
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>>8355003
it stabilized colors that's for sure but it killed hands and eyes
it's over
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>>8355002
no u
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Can't local and saas just make peace and ask kurumuz to help Euge and LAX with the bake?
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lax only has one node right now.
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>>8355004
You can always inpaint those, not a big deal tbqh
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>the I word
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>>8355000
Trips of truth
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>>8355007
can't kurumuz and these shitasses >>8355005 >>8355004 >>8355008 just kill themselves?
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>>8355012
I am kurumuz
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>>8355012
>>>8355008
i'm fucking leaking you private info, dumbass
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>turbo samplers work once again
lesssss fokin goooooooooo
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https://files.catbox.moe/hmt9k5.jpg
>1girl, simple background, black background
GIVE IT UP FOR LOCAL VPRED EVERYBODY!!!
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>>8355017
>YAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSS I CAN FIANLLY PROMPT PURE 100% BLACK
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>>8355017
>>8355018
back to pony, retards
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>>8355017
>there's a random noise ghost in the bottom left
https://files.catbox.moe/8ua6dr.png
spoopy
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bravo!
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Is local saved now?
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>>8354885
BBC is NAI and NAI is BBC
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>>8354970
need more red winter girls in these
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You're laughing. ponysissies are getting mighty uppity about our checkpoint failing once again and you're all just laughing!
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>>8355003
can u box styles?
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>>8354977
This release stopped the spam very fast, this proves that the spammer is watching the thread and reading posts.
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DO NOT BAKE UNTIL JANNY SEES THE SPAM
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>>8355030
bold of you to assume they give a shit.
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>>8355028
retard
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DO NOT REDEEM THE BAKE
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https://files.catbox.moe/ji2d4w.png
noob 0.75s vs nai
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Okay, okay, but where's my vped 0.75 that is not s(shit)?
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is 0.75s cyberfix out yet
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>>8355038
>>8355036
I thought the cyberfixes added (ai generated:1.2) in exchange for better hands/feet/eyes?
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>>8355039
every faggot in this shit thread loves (ai-generated:1.2) though
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>>8355039
people seem to like that compromise i guess
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>>8355041
Why is it so sad, jealous and angry?
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>>8355041
I only love you...
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>>8355043
why is it so retarded?
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>>8355045
why is you?
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>>8355045
Who hurt you?
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>>8354985
cool
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>>8355036
25$ sir
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>>8355051
No, i meant literally 0.75, they released two models past week 0.65 and 0.65s, also
>>8355034
NAI mogged hard, kurumuz in shambles
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https://huggingface.co/nyanko7/nyaflow-xl-alpha
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>>8355054
Hm.. nyo to nya~
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>>8355054
VPRED BROS THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING
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>>8355054
Merge it with noob, HURRY!
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>>8355054
qrd?
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>>8355054
it's bad. just try it
https://huggingface.co/spaces/nyanko7/toaru-xl-model
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>>8355061
>knows hibiki ryouga even less than noob
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>>8355065
noob is a finetune you moron
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kek only 1 image deleted
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>>8355067
Janny, probably: my job here is done
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>>8355066
Take your meds? I'm just surprised that another model hasn't picked up on a character with 500 entries so I'm wondering if there is an issue there in general. I tested a character with less and it worked.
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>>8355067
dont want to overwork the janny he is already doing so much...
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>https://civitai.com/models/1001795/noobaicyberfix-updated-vpred-eps?modelVersionId=1140938
Pancho anon dropped cyberfix. Guess I gotta take the ai generated trade. Fucking hands and toes are falling apart with the base model.
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>>8355067
>it was an ***kon image
I mean, based, but that also lmao
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>>8355072
I was about to ask for this lmao, godspeed
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>>8355074
lmao why was it even deleted
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>>8355076
probably /aco/ if I were to guess
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put one of these into the negatives for 0.7:
anthro, furry, paws, pawprint,
or
anthro, furry, paw, pawprint

paws changes the compositiion the most, but i almost always get good hands.
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>>8355080
>needs this many negatives to EVEN properly function
YABBA DABBA DOO
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Okay, i'm gonna say it: 0.75 is actually good. We won.
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>>8355083
without anthro, furry, there is some kind of pastel look baked in, without paws, pawprint, hand rng is wild. otherwise it's good
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>>8355078
since when is that rule enforced
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>>8355086
it's usually enforced if the character is from a western IP
the art style is a separate matter that's more miss than hit.
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>>8355089
This but opposite
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>>8355090
?
No, really, characters are more likely to get your shit removed.
the jannies/mods are completely retarded and are art illiterate. But they can actually recognize western characters some of the time and those aren't allowed, either.
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>>8355089
but league of legends belongs to chinks no?
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>bakasiroSARs all-styles lora baked the style of the oekaki anon
>the name of the trigger word for the style is "oekakischizo"
roru roru mao mao
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>>8355107
kilu kilu selfu selfu
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>>8355107
could have been oekakyschizo
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>>8355107
who in the what now
link? I have a morbid curiosity
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bakasooor is watching these threads
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>>8355115
can confirm im the bakasaar
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File: 00005-2359371321.png (3.81 MB, 1536x2688)
3.81 MB
3.81 MB PNG
Artifacts are still there but not as much, vi von
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kill me
https://files.catbox.moe/3qki34.jpg
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>>8355107
>it's true
Holy fucking kek
>>8355114
https://civitai.com/images/44176749
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>>8355119
PROOOOOOOOOFFFFFF?!!???!!!??!!
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>>8355125
trust me bro
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>>8355122
leaking dms in bad, man
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>>8355129
this is not dm, this is a chat with lax, euge and others
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>>8355127
okiii
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>>8355120
BRO? HER LITTLE FINGIES ON HER LEFT HAND?
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>>8355120
Is this the cyberfix version or the normal one?
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current negatives: anthro, furry, paw, pawprint, mammal, pawpads, handpaw,
if you have to put the entire dataset in the negatives to get good hands, then why was it used in the first place?
from this, i have only one conclusion, the model is definitely defaulting to furry and is hitting hands and joints first.
if someone is brave enough to test all of these, here is the link:
https://e621.net/wiki_pages/1838
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just ask kurumuz for help, but before you do that, convince him that his v4 bake is so insanely good that there is no way for local to catch up so he feels sorry about the state of local and then goes to help lax and euge with vpred issues out of pity. and then we rape him

no but seriously, i can't stand the retardation on euges cord, they have no fucking clue what to do
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>>8355120
Hair is ugly/melty/ai-generated. Rest of the image is average.
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>>8355120
it's trying to become a paw of sorts, the finger splits in two like a hoove, tentative workaround here >>8355136
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>>8355138
it's an ai-generated image
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>>8355122
wait a is based?
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>>8355139
meant to reply to >>8355134
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>>8355120
pretty sure you can do the exact same picture on 1.1
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>>8355124
>it is in fact listed on artists v3.1.txt
fuck now I have to download 1.1eps to see how bad this garbage is
also there's ***kon and brittle listed lmao
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>>8355147
how the fuck is this guy in here lmao
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>>8355147
>also there's ***kon and brittle listed lmao
post ***kon images when you download lmao
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>>8355122
>>8355131
the state of v-pred is grim...
https://files.catbox.moe/408lih.png
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New Thread:

>>8355153
>>8355153
>>8355153
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>>8355030
they only ever care after there is a number of /hdg/ threads in the board
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>>8354569
Klarabox?
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>>8355080
>anthro, furry, paws, pawprint
example full negative? also what quality tags are actually useful in pos?
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>>8355216
here you go anon
https://files.catbox.moe/doc1x5.png
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>>8354698
Macross 7?
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>>8355003
can you style box?



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