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No One Baked Edition

Previous Thread: >>8714630

>LOCAL UI
reForge: https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-reForge | Stable commit: 6964ceb
Comfy: https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUI | https://comfyanonymous.github.io/ComfyUI_examples

>NOOBAI-XL
https://civitai.com/models/833294/noobai-xl-nai-xl
https://huggingface.co/Laxhar

>NOOBAI SHITMIXES
102d custom: https://civitai.com/models/1201815?modelVersionId=1491533
291h: https://civitai.com/models/1301670/291h

>PAID
https://novelai.net/image

>RESOURCES
4chanX Catbox/NAI prompt userscript: https://rentry.org/hdgcb
Easy booru tag export userscript: https://github.com/Takenoko3333/Danbooru-Tags-Sort-Exporter
Tags: https://danbooru.donmai.us/wiki_pages/tag_groups | https://danbooru.donmai.us/related_tag | https://tagexplorer.github.io/#/
Inpaint: https://files.catbox.moe/fbzsxb.jpg | https://huggingface.co/Wenaka/NoobAI_XL_Inpainting_ControlNet_Full
Upscalers: https://openmodeldb.info
Booru: https://aibooru.online
ControlNet: https://rentry.org/dummycontrolnet (OLD) | https://civitai.com/models/136070

>TRAINING
Guide: https://rentry.org/yahbgtr (WIP)
Anon's scripts: https://mega.nz/folder/VxYFhAYb#FQZn8iz_SxWV3x1BBaJGbw
Trainers: https://github.com/derrian-distro/LoRA_Easy_Training_Scripts | https://github.com/bmaltais/kohya_ss | https://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainer

OP Template/Logo: https://rentry.org/hggop/edit | https://files.catbox.moe/om5a99.png
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i'm shocked no one actually baked a new thread
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>>8721399
Everyone's fault
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>>8721399
that's a really long torso.

also, laziness. and the slider seems to have slid out of /h/(for now) so it's not like there was all that much pressure tbdesu.
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>>8721403
she's just tall
>it's not like there was all that much pressure tbdesu
sucks when anons would rather post in a schizo splitter thread, like how hard could it be
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>>8721399
yeah this is absurdly long torso lol
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We longtorsoposting now
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why are there so many threads?
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its noodlekek
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Noodleposting
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have you tried swarmui?
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now looking at /g/ldg i think we need to add something similar to the op

>>Maintain Thread Quality
>https://rentry.org/debo
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what causes this
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got the 291h, the dmd2 rank1+pso 0.9 strength, the cfg at 1, the (adversarial noise) negpip, the slight vectorscope, the lcm/ays+ at 12 steps
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BASED
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payment processor? smelt them in the pavement, professor
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migrate
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>>8721468
What ever happened to "ani" and comfy anyway? Wasn't ani supposed to make a new anime model that would btfo everyone? For that matter what about Jordach, neggles, B-chan, and that other furry faggot? All sizzle, no steak.
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I hate nogens
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:^(
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>>8721508
comfy is now this https://www.comfy.org/about
>ani
idk but seems like he's inhabited /g/adt
>Jordach, neggles, B-chan, and that other furry faggot
they don't post on 4chan (anymore)
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>>8721484
tf is pso?
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naisisters, how do we cope with no vidgen in 2025?
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kekjej
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Platforming is by far the hardest thing on silksong
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>>8721653
>unironically 45 degrees messed up some people
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i'm very confused why there's 2 generals..
but anyhow i wanted ask if there's any good website for img2vid with wan 2.2 even if you don't have the civitai loras, because my pc can't handle local.
yes i'm aware this is a local thread like the other one but wasn't sure where to ask.
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>>8721665
Oh I am not talking about early game little cute platforming made to teach you the way hornet move, I am talking about the act 3 shit you need to pull off while fighting flying monsters that quite literally teleport near you or the celeste tier pixel perfect long jump sequences
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>>8721670
schizos
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>>8721653
very true
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>>8721508
noob and illustrious updates finished ahead of them, and base model candidates for bigger than SDXL hardware are rapidly evolving, like Qwen
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>>8721399
bacause we reused >>8714671
honestly with the current levels of activity, being split between /hdg/, /hgg/ and a duplicate seemed like a bad idea
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>>8721670
Reason is idiots like >>8721816. The topic of both is the same, the posters in both are the same.
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>>8721850
>The topic of both is the same
It isn't until you start spamming, self-fulfilling prophecy-kun. But I've been advocating for a complete migration to a new thread on /e/ anyway
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sick of local being a piece of shit
subbed to nai
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>>8721677
they want the super metroid shinespark audience
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any new sampler/scheduler combos? I feel like I haven't moved away from DPM++ 2M SDE Simple in forever
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>>8721897
DPM++ 2M SDE CFG++
beta scheduler alpha & beta = 1.2
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>>8721908
very bright
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>>8721897
Try whatever sampler you have with AYS or Karras dynamic
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>>8721936
those are pretty bad schedulers for vpred models
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>AYS
i was about to post that this meme should be gone forever, because it was derived for the old eps sdxl schedule but i made a guess that this retard uses reforge and decided to look at it
>2 weeks ago
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>>8721949
>sigma max
how does pancho know my name?
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>>8721947
I know but those give me sometimes very good results on cases where Beta doesn't
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>>8721949
with this change you can't reproduce your old ays gens by the way
huuh, wonder why reforge constantly breaks, he didn't even bother to make a new sampler appear in the list with this change
>>8721955
just use noob eps 1.1 if you like ays
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>>8721897
dpm++3m 50 steps sgm uniform
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>>8721949
>he's actually sort of updating reforge again not really
ughhhhhh
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>>8721958
Now that you mention it I don't quite remember what was the last version of noob ESP that I used
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>>8721967
meant to write EPS but you know what I am talking about
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Adult woman sex
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>>8721994
Adult woman sex
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>>8721998
How many grades did she repeat?
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>>8721967
>noob ESP
genning directly into your mind
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>>8721653
this is another repost
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>>8721998
is being cummed on sex
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>>8722045
A like when another chattini aside the usual one keeps a record of my gens, we really are only 6 here
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>>8722055
tbqh it's easy to tell that was an old gen since the lines are a tad fried
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>>8722053
Yes. That means that every time you jack off and some of it lands on your hand you technically had sex. Grats on no longer being a virgin!
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>>8722060
nyo...
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>chattini getting tsundere again
how cute
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>>8722062
that's like a year old.
I remember because I also made a random gen of that vchuuba and it wasn't that long after illustrious came out.
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>>8721897
Frankly, I haven't even looked it up or what the fuck it's doing under the hood but I somehow misclicked on DPM++ 2M SDE Turbo a few weeks ago and everything I was genning was as good as it's gonna get for slop (not too melty, toes/fingers rarely an issue, etc). Finally realized I was on the "wrong" sampler but it's become my go to since. You can try it with Karras but because of vpred, you'll gen some body horror shit like once every 10 gens so just use it with SGM Uniform and you're set.
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>>8722076
>but because of vpred
it's not because of vpred though, karras doesn't work with ztsnr
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In other news, we did chat, the missing 5% is from 2 mask fragments and some tools but it's fucking over
100/10 Lace best girl
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>>8722101
ive never played the original either how was the game?

also can i get a catbox?
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>>8722101
run bricked. restart.
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>>8722102
>how was the game?
Everything I wanted as sequel and more, I didn't feel like this while playing since a long time ago shit was brutal but very rewarding, highly recommend both games

>https://files.catbox.moe/9oi75z.png
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>>8722055
be original, faggot
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>>8722114
what did chattini mean by this
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>>8722115
What is this avatarfag shit? I want a real schizo nickname not some cuckshit
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>>8722116
Chat, your meds?
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Can we not? I was enjoying the no activity.
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Drills.
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Too bad, I have a lot of gen ideas for the next days so be prepared chat
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>>8722101
just 15% to go for the secret hornet sex scene though
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>Bake a bunch of shit
>testing them and just enjoying the artist 0.9:1
Should probably just try to set up just pure artist lora without trying to shit mix it with 4-5 other stuff and just make it messy more often.
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>>8722236
I only mix innate artists these days. If I'm baking a lora it's because I liked that particular artist so why not just enjoy him in peace?
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>>8722237
Get too lost in the sauce sometimes and forget how good a simple seasoned steak is.
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>remove an artist from the mix
>gen looks way better
damn
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If the other bokogenner is still around, I'd encourage you go browse the furfag tags a bit. Get the proper boko size now, every gen, as opposed to the coin flip it used to be with only booru tags. The furs have a ton size specific shit that works on noob.
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>>8722325
Too many cooks in the kitchen. Try it at a low weight thoughbeit.
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>>8722327
>The furs have a ton size specific shit that works on noob.
I told you this since ages ago but you guys always go full retard on that because muh furries bad (they are but they know their shit)
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>>8722325
I have found the same case with some of the artist mixes I use. I remove all except one for men, leave them all for women. Some artists just don't draw men at all, so I get extra girlish shotas, no matter what I prompt.
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If I'm trying to gen an image with two different characters, without region prompting, how do you go about telling the prompter that you are talking about two different characters and to not smash two LoRAs together?
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>>8722328
They have specific tags for a bunch of creative compositions I try to stitch together like some autistic wizard with booru only tags. I've been resorting to their tags for about 2-3 months now and ooooooooooooooh buddy.
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>>8722328
if you inference aco furshit then you get aco furshit as a result
you cannot separate it. it will impact every part of your styling output. it's just how inference works.
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>>8722327
you mean like "larger penetrated" and shit? that barely worked for me when i tried it. box?
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!retard
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>>8722332
If is a copyright character just use the according tag if you are trying to put your two OCs together you are going to have some difficulties without regional prompt
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>>8722338
I attempted that once with Mahiro and Mihari from onimai and ended up with both characters looking like a mash between the two.
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>>8722336
Oh it works, anon.
>(smaller feral, small but hung), size difference, (micro), (smaller on top, larger penetrated), interspecies
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>>8722334
literally this. that's why you can't prompt large breasts for characters that are always drawn flat. model literally can't comprehend it! that's how AI works =)
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>>8722342
model issue probably? I don't have any problem at all putting the two together
>https://files.catbox.moe/renc2z.png
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>>8722347
"large breasts" doesn't have an inherent style bias.
something that only exists within a single specific set of a dataset will have a style bias and once inferred it will apply its style bias to every part of your prompt that also exists within its dataset.
this isn't complicated.
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>>8722348
https://files.catbox.moe/2de40t.jpg
I guess LoRAs aren't needed with this checkpoint. Searched through other images using the term BREAK which seemed to help.
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>>8722349
e621 tags don't necessarily have inherent style bias either, especially for tags with lots of entries. I never encountered furshit style pollution on noob or nai (dunno about pony though but not like it matters now).
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Have you ever worked on a gen just to not like it at all after you are done? how you guys usually cope with that
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>>8722373
i only do txt2img
fuck all that "artist" bullshit
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>>8722374
based slopper
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>>8722373
>how you guys usually cope with that
are you serious?
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>>8722376
somewhat, yes, it's not a big deal after all but I still feel a little sad everytime it happen
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>>8722376
cope harder
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>>8722379
well in that case, I feel mildly annoyed for a few seconds and then I delete the gen
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>>8722334
with how much gay furry art gets uploaded to danbooru these days it might as well be the same
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>>8722390
and vice versa, the main difference is tagging
danbooru focuses a lot more on clothing, backgrounds and art concepts, less on anatomy and sex stuff
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>>8722373
...what?
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>>8722386
>>8722477
I assume he means some effort gen where you manually inpaint large sections of the pic, think "5girls, 3boys, group sex, very wide shot, scenery". When I do that I usually lose sight of the end goal and it ends up kinda cool but not fappable.
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>>8722479
sorry my brain doesn't randomly shut off while edging so i can't empathize
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So what is the real difference between /hgg/ and /hdg/?
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>>8722508
d
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>>8722373
All of my gens are like that. I barely gen these days.
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>>8722508
None, there is some more tech speech here but at the end of the day it's the same people and the same shitposting schizos.
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>>8722544
I am only here doe??
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>>8722345
box?
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:^/
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I'm using ComfyUI and currently learning to use adetailers or inpainting to fix messed up faces or add extra detail. All the guides I've found show how to load an image file and use inpainting, but is there a way to take my generated image, draw a mask over it, then transfer it into an inpainter, all in the same workspace?
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>>8722582
if you want ui/ux that's not dogshit, don't use comfy.
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>>8722583
fuck off forge shill
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>>8722583
fuck off forge shill
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Huh first prompt ina while that I cannot gen

> mirror on floor, reflection, mirror floor,

or the like, seems no model has knowledge of it or I'm shit at prompting.
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>>8722582
Adetailer can be used directly, but for inpainting you have to interrupt the workflow to draw your inpaint mask. They can still be in the same "workspace" but not in the same flow, you have to save the image then load it. Right-click the Load Image node and go to "open in mask editor" to draw your mask in the app, instead of having to load a separate mask file.

https://files.catbox.moe/joeiv5.png
This catbox has the raw gen, upscale and inpaint, all separate. You can right-click an output node and hit "bypass" which disables that branch so it doesn't run.

>>8722583
Shill on, Forge fuck. Most people who use comfy don't really benefit from it.
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>>8722588
i think "mirror" is intrinsically tied to standing/wall/table mounted mirror, so you'll probably want "reflective floor," "reflection," or something like that. you could also try a hack like prompt editing a more reflective surface into the kind of floor you want.
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>>8722588
>or the like, seems no model has knowledge of it or I'm shit at prompting.
current models have the knowledge of it but it's a hard concept to get right
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>>8722600
pic unrelated?
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Does ANYONE use the "Save" button in (re)forge? Why the fuck does it save a zip files with a single fucking image in addition to image itself? So stupid
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>>8722582
I found this node a while ago, pretty neat
If you set it like in picrel, if there's no mask (an image has just been genned and you haven't drawn a mask) and you run your workflow again it won't do anything
But if you right click it and draw a mask, it'll pass the image and the mask to your inpaint workflow
Bit less of a hassle than manually copying and pasting an image imo
Can also pair it with a switch node so you can do both that or regularly load and inpaint an image
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>>8722590
I started by reflective floor, but it didn't work either, oh well

>>8722600
I've done mirrors other times, I was attempting to do the floor as a mirror

>>8722609
that comes from the original auto1111 UI, guess nobody bothered to remvoe it.
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>>8722612
>>8722608
>I was attempting to do the floor as a mirror
Oh, yeah, that also is hard to do especially if you are aiming to the entire or most of the body to be visible in the reflection
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>>8722610
but then you have to have your seed fixed
else running it again will give you a different image the mask no longer matches
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>>8722618
Yeah, I just use a global seed that's incremental instead of random to make things easier in case I gen an image I like
>different image the mask no longer matches
The "restore_mask" setting set to never will remove the drawn mask if a new image is passed to the node

It's not perfect but I like it better like this idk
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>>8722612
>that comes from the original auto1111 UI, guess nobody bothered to remvoe it.
yeah I know, was messing around with settings and was wondering if I could optimize my genning workflow. This feature as it is now really makes little sense
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>>8722612
glass_floor, reflection works for me
except the reflection is messed up and would need to be inpainted, and the glass and /or reflection tags tend to leak into the background walls as well
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>>8722639
Let's try, what model are you using?
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>>8722640
nai
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>>8722640
102d custom
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>>8722639
>>8722642
eh, I got kind of something
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Uhhh what were the right settings for tile controlnet upscale again? it look like fucking shit on my end
Control Weight: 1, Ending Control Step: 0.9,
Denoising strength: 0.8, model: noob-sdxl-controlnet-tile [576627e1]
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>>8722589
>>8722610
Cool, thanks for the help. I got a bit carried away just genning stuff, but I'll try that out later.
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>>8722693
Very pointless censor
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>>8722695
No. BBC needs to be censored
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>>8722582
You can do all of this in SwarmUI, using ComfyUI as a backend. Or you could even spin up multiple backends if you are gpu rich (webmrelated uses 3090 and 3060).
Although hooking your existing ComfyUI instance is kind of tedious.
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>>8722720
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>>8722722
Sure, but you might as well use Forge at that point.
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>>8722722
what the fuck is that UI how is that any different from reforge
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>>8722725
In forge, you can't
>use your own workflows
>edit automatically generated workflows
>access comfy ui
>use multiple gpus
not even mentioning it runs like shit
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Ah yes, in SwarmUI you can also do grids like you do in a1111-like, arguably it's even better. So there's basically no point in not trying it out if you already use comfy
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>>8722753
>arguably it's even better
seems to only have options from prompt add/replace, not all the other stuff. steps, cfg, sampler, checkpoint, lora on/off, etc

You can do all of that in comfy normally
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>>8722753
How do you personally like it? Serious question.
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have you guys ever changed those parameters? feels like they don't actually change anything visually but I am not sure. never knew GAN upscales could leave seams at all
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>>8722764
I didn't know these options existed.
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>>8722759
>seems to only have options from prompt add/replace, not all the other stuff. steps, cfg, sampler, checkpoint, lora on/off, etc
You can do all that, literally look at 7-8 second
What I meant is that you can do like 4 axes and then rearrange the outputs however you like
>>8722761
It's janky but it gets rid of most comfy headaches
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>>8722767
well yeah same, for whatever reason I decided to study what settings are there and found this shit
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>>8722769
only those three are marked with [grid gen], rest look like other stuff
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>>8722771
idk why only these three are marked [grid gen], other stuff works exactly the same
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comfyui questions, will accept a catbox workflow as an answer
>how do i set output file names beyond date/time
>is there a way to make it check filenames in a folder and increment a first number like a1111&co
>how do i make live previews work

swarmui question
>how do i import metadata from pictures generated in the comfy tab seriously what the fuck
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>>8722808
read fucker read

live previews are a launcher argument
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>>8722828
yeah i read that but how the hell do i find out what the tags are supposed to be, everything i've tried has failed
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>>8722830
%Empty Latent Image.width%
%KSampler.seed%
%Load Lora.lora_name%
You see the node names and the parameter names, it can't be any simpler. Maybe you have some weird custom node that's interfering with it?
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Why blacked bros have such a bad taste
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>>8722889
They minmax contrast and forget about the rest of their art
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>>8722808
if i were to explain swarmui, it operates in two modes: static and generated workflows
generated workflows are generated by swarmui backend from swarmui metadata, this is what you are going to be using 99% of the time
static workflows are created in comfy and its functionality in swarmui is """limited""" to the options you can tweak in comfyui with a few extras
>how do i import metadata from pictures generated in the comfy tab
you aren't supposed to generate directly in swarmui's comfy tab. you are supposed to go into the comfy tab inside swarmui, load the workflow and click "use this workflow in generate tab", then go to generate tab. this will activate "static" mode in swarmui
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>>8722847
Box?
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>>8722847
>>8722842

Artists?
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>>8722911
that makes sense, just annoying that it can't even parse the prompt
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Anyone tried this yet?

https://huggingface.co/AiArtLab/sdxl_vae
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>>8723021
I haven't but I am ready to get disappointed yet once again
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>>8723021
it's jaggy instead of blurry, if you zoom in enough
a tiny difference, not even worth a download
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>>8722551
https://files.catbox.moe/wg6t73.png
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Does anyone have a complete guide to generate pics locally? Especially about the upscaling and refining part
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>>8723043
it's a single click on any UI other than Comfy
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>>8723043
Refine is a meme and you need no more than plain hires fix to upscale things
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>>8722639
>glass_floor
Use reflective surface instead. It's still hit or miss.
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>>8722676
Strength 1.
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>>8722734
Can you automate shit like in comfy on swarm?
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>>8723056
On that note, mirror reflection is a goddamn nightmare, and only could get it done by inpainting the everloving shit out of two separate prompts.
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>>8722847
Is that shoeguy?
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>>8722889
Because I know you'll only focus on the cock so I had to make it extra juicy for you.
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>>8722343
>>8722327
Yeah I've tried them it's hit or miss. Size difference itself has a lot of weight with a larger male / smaller female even with weighting for opposites.
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>>8722327
>browse the furfag tags
board? general? link?
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>>8723079
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>>8723081
https://e621.net/
https://e621.net/wiki_pages/204
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I can easily see how to prompt each character and placing them, but how do you handle the grass?

https://aibooru.online/posts/133937
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>>8723107
is that not just the flower field tag?
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>>8723108
Look at it. Each character is properly behind the blades of grass, and it's not melty as fuck. I assume the guy used something else. Probably another tool?
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>>8723111
nah there's melting
look at all this over here
it was probably upscaled a lot to make it cleaner and then downscaled to a more normal size
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>>8723111
That's what happens when you prompt grass, I don't see the issue. And why would it be melty?
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>>8723113
>>8723115
This is what I mean.

I don't know if it is because of my shitmix of choice, but in that guy's image the grass isn't as smudgy, and you can see separate blades of grass.
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>>8723121
first try on 102d custom, no style prompt, no nothing
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>>8723121
yeah just looks like a bad shitmix or upscaling settings
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>>8723126
>>8723128
Ok, so the issue is my shitmix. Thanks.

I previously had this issue in other models, so I assumed this was a common problem.
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>>8723121
Holy moly. What abomination of a model was that, anon?
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>>8723133
One that is good when using artist styles, but poor if you define nothing: Nova anime. I know it looks like shit as it is, but I needed to see how it performed without an artist holding its hand.
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>>8723135
>but I needed to see how it performed without an artist holding its hand.
why?
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>>8723138
Some artists are better at some things than others. If I choose an artist known for making detailed backgrounds, it won't show me how good the model itself is at making the concept I want. Some artists, for example, refuse to generate men that look like men. If you used tottotonero to try to generate a scene, for example, you will get flat nonsense most of the time.
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Apologize to Mr Farmer immediately.
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>>8723151
>>8723153
Damn! That's really really nice! I love the feel of those videos, they're like a bridge that connect anime world to ours. While those are clearly anime characters, yes, it's so incredible and unique to witness how they move like real people and slowly become more and more realistic. A true synthesis of realism and anime which makes otherwise plain and boring medium so much more exciting and alive. Bravo WAN!
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>>8723161
the irony that answer feel ai generated kek q_q
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>>8723035
Thank you.
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>>8723154
that's some object permanence with the coom
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I hate social events so much chat
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what lilbro yappin bout?
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>>8723060
You can literally use comfy within swarm
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any new inpainting tech yet?
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>>8723369
Besides actually learning how to draw hands and clothing? No.
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>>8723376
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>>8723359
Yeah but I don't want to have to learn comfy bullshit. It's so unintuitive. Auto1111 was always the better UI it just wasn't "automatic" like comfy is.
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>>8723398
>i want to automate
>i don't want to learn comfy
what's wrong with you? you can just try it instead of asking
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>>8723161
>images are AI generated
>now responses are Ai generated
Ugh.
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>>8723401
Go away cumrag. Why are you assuming I haven't tried your slop? I'm just looking for something better.
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>>8723403
>i didn't learn comfy
>why are you assuming i didn't learn comfy?
i accept your concession, shitposter-kun. no one forces you to try anything and if you have a reason to learn comfy you'd have learned it already
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>>8723405
>you can just try it
>I told you I tried it
>jej you don't have a phD in it like me so you haven't "learned" it
Stop moving the goalposts you fucking retard. So sick of you people shitting up the general.
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i seriously don't understand why would you put yourself below drooling /g/ imbeciles when you claim comfy is hard
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do comfytards seriously have that much issue understanding the difference between people unwilling to use this piece of garbage (one of the worse UIs ever conceived, dude probably never seen actual node interfaces), and being unable to?
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>moving goalposts
how ironic
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Do either of your UI's generate the henti, SIRS?
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<3
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>>8723409
>>8723414
>no you don't understand you HAVE to use my UI or else ur retarded!!!
Fucking hell/
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>>8723423
nice strawman, now look at >>8723405
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just use comfyui only 25 a month its a steal honestly
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>>8723428
Yes I know that you dumb faggot. You are replying to >>8723060. I want something that isn't comfy specifically to avoid its retardation and I was hoping swarm is different. Rather than discuss swarm, you're here trying to induct someone into your cult and I'm not having it.
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comfy is still king for many use cases
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Today I will gen on cumfy.
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comfyui is really good, a1111 and its forks were always a failure and eventually stagnated
just use comfyui
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Comfy is only good if you are some content farm churning out fluxslop for scam facebook accounts
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>>8723431
let's spell it out for mouthbreathing retards then. if you are asking
>Can you automate shit like in comfy on swarm?
then the answer is yes. you can literally use comfy workflows inside swarm which let you automate your shit just like in comfy, and through the power of transitivity you can say that "you can automate shit in swarm like in comfy"
>I want something that isn't comfy specifically to avoid its retardation and I was hoping swarm is different
go read >>8722911
swarm offers extra options
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comfy is great for everything
honestly just the best interface there is
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this
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>>8723402
it's the just webm spammer samefagging his stuff
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>>8723443
isn't that exactly what he was asking for? before the whole argument started >>8723060
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>>8723420
man, it's /aco/ but i'm too tired to argue
whatever
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>>8723444
No you bottomless pit, that means it can't automate shit without its comfy integration. It doesn't actually do anything on its own according to you and you clearly don't use swarm since you link to someone else barely explaining what a "generated workflow" is. This conversation is going nowhere because you seem personally offended by someone not wanting to use your shit UI.
>>8723449
Yeah but I don't want to deal with nodeslop. Auto111 is much better in every way except that one aspect and in the end I'll just stick to reforge.
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>it's the [headcanon]
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>>8723452
>that means it can't automate shit without its comfy integration
i don't see any problem in using comfy if it means you can automate your workflows, swam just makes it significantly more convenient
>because you seem personally offended by someone not wanting to use your shit UI.
i don't care in the slightest, i'm just answering your stupid questions and correcting your wild fantasies. you, on the other hand, for some reason bear strong resentment and aversion towards comfyui specifically despite trying to play it cool, has comfy traumatized you to such an extent that you now attack people?
>reforge
it doesn't let you automate your shit at all, retard
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can local models like illustrious write text well? like say "this" in a speech bubble. I know some online models are pretty good at that.
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>>8723462
Can they? Kinda.
Well? Nope.
I believe Flux can thoughbeit.
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>>8723462
yes just use comfyui it might seem complicated but honestly absolutely worth it, much better than any other options and soon it will be available for purchase as comfy cloud. 20 dollar plan is a steal and is absolutely worth it.
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>>8723462
No, but you can stop being a lazy nigger and use paint
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>>8723462
illustrious can sometimes handle one or two words, but it's unreliable. I tried Flux here >>8722952 but that doesn't really have danbooru knowledge, or nudity. So it's at most good for inpainting then with Kontext. For manual work, Krita has a plugin to make speech bubble shapes automatically.
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I want some Hex Maniac breeding!
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>>8723468
I couldn't find a font I liked so I want the ai to make the decision for me.
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>>8723477
wait, I know her
from that succubus game that'll never get finished
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>>8723478
yeah i've made a bunch of energy drain/femdom pictures with the two of them.
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>>8723477
Just use cc Astrocity like every single scanlation team ever.
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>>8723161
The sad part is that WAN can actually look alright for realism and 3D renders. Issue is that it's still fucking atrocious for anime, I don't know how people can post that trash unironically, especially considering how much time is wasted on every gen.
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hey jeet neggers, is there any ways to get T-Rex's style without lora?
There's no tag for them on danbooru, as far as I know. Loras often fucks up perf on Noob in my experience, so if I can avoid using a lora for their style it would be great. There's no trex style lora for Noob anyway, well, I found one but it's focused on characters instead of the style itself and it doesn't look great when used that way.
It looks amazing on Illu with the lora like this, but I don't like Illu, much less using too many loras to fix illu so it does what I want.
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>>8723516
the hell's "perf"
performance is only worsened by the size of the lora itself, so like a hundred megs of vram

anyway if there's no tag on danbooru on e621 then there is no way, obviously
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Does anyone have a cookie cutter toml for NAI? Every bake I tried so far has not been very accurate. What I made so far does look like the style, somewhat, but very very rough.
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>>8723528
I meant the model's quality, the image quality, the ability to do complex poses/scenes, the face quality and ability to gen without massive fuck up, etc
I noticed some style loras even among those specifically made for noob vpred or eps just tend to reduce all the good things about noob.
So I just avoid most loras now except those I know for sure aren't just making it worse.
>if there's no tag on danbooru on e621 then there is no way, obviously
fuck
I'll keep searching for some not so obvious tag that hold the same style. I noticed slapping certain eroge series in the positive did get me their style perfectly, maybe the same exist for trex. Maybe some random artist draw in the same way.
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>>8723536
Oh yeah that's true, though to what degree depends on how well the lora was trained. Most aren't that terrible.

You could also use your lookalike artist and then enable the lora halfway though the gen, once the pose, anatomy, etc are already fixed and it's just filling in details.
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What's with all the cumragUI shilling out of nowhere lol
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because it's objectively superior?
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>>8723550
>>8723521
they're not even arguments, just shallow comments to make people react
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>>8723554
Just another retard throwing ragebaits at us? alright then
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>>8723501
there are wan loras for anime, people just don't use them
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>>8723574
It's not about style but movement, even the anime ones look rotoscoped
The difference between Berserk and Goblin Slayer
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>>8723554
i think you can distinguish between "real" arguments and the shitposting bot posting here 24/7 pretty easily
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honestly comfyui is just actually that good, whats the big deal if we discuss it a bit
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Hello, I come from the lands of /g/adt/. Does anyone know any news or have any traces of the anon who makes girls with big eyes and puffy faces similar to those of a baby/loli and big breasts?
He was our baker but last sunday he got banned 3 days passed... we havent know anything about him.
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>>8723609
I remember, he kept saying it's not pedophilia at all. Haven't seem him in a few days.
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lol, lmao even
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>>8723609
last seen here >>>/e/3002661
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>>8723609
looking for your fix huh?
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nyo :3
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>>8723620
>>8723613
Thanks I pinned hin in /e/!
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KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEKJEEEEJ
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Chat, you are not actually subscribed to another streamer, right...? I am your only one...
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Anons, i'm prompting some PVC-like anime figures and having good results overall, but the problem is that i'm having a hard time replicating an specific hair style (pic related). Tried controlnet with different models, modes and so on and no matter what i try i just can't get something even close. Checked my prompts many times and nothing seems to work. Any help is appreciated

Prompt/Results: https://files.catbox.moe/ruhw47.png
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>>8723670
Unrelated to your issue but I just want to point this out. There's only so much attention to go around (depending on cfg), so if you emphasize one tag it takes emphasis away from others. You should be using that on one or two things, not half the prompt.
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>>8723670
I have seen this same exact post before
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>>8723673
i tried using only a few prompts about the hair style but nothing seems to work and i don't know why.
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>>8723674
Did he get any help back then?

>>8723670
I think it might just be a limitation baked into the checkpoint. See if you can get what you want in regular anime style, and if so add "figure_(medium)" to that.
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>>8723674
It was me.

>>8723678
I'm gonna try that and see. Last time i posted here, i got a prompt recommendation and it didn't do anything, hair_bangs or something like that. I can replicate almost everything but the hair style... i just can't.
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should I spin it up?
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i pulled out my credit card and subbed to nai
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>>8723670
If you want to 100% recreate that hair type you are going to need to draw that single off braid and odd bangs yourself, I think the tag you are mainly looking for is "curtained hair"
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it's a fucking bot
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>>8723670
Aside from this anon comment >>8723687, I'd suggest looking for PC98 artists / loras as this style looks a lot to what was drawn back then
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>>8723687
I assume i need to do it on inpaint correct?

>>8723691
I even have and specific loras for the character but nothing seems to work, tried that at 1.0, 1.5, 2.0... nothing
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I see it now, all makes sense
>https://files.catbox.moe/4qfhap.jpg
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>>8723695
>I assume i need to do it on inpaint correct?
Correct, just draw some lines around and use a low denoise value (around 0.4) to blend it nicely
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Fucking what, do real artists usually charge this much?
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>>8723708
No, they charge much more. This person is actually on the lower end.
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how do I redeem the $25
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>>8723711
I know popular artists do charge way more but does your average twitter artist charge that? really?
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>>8723714
See this guy?

https://x.com/maitakesu

He charges 8000 yen/55US$ per pic.
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>>8723714
who do you think are the ones getting ultra pissy about AI art?
it's the bottom of the barrel garbage art grifters trying to get by on DND character reference commissions at $50-150 a piece.
also the other anon is right, that these are on the "cheap" end. There's a lot that try and do $50 for busts(read: cropped torso), $75 for legs and anything to do with color is $100+ minimum and if there's a second character it's anywhere from 2-2.5x the cost depending on the interaction level.

that said depending on the art quality the price isn't always really "unreasonable." Even if I were to do commissions on AI shit it'd end up being a minimum $50-75 for a full cleaned render just to be making $30-35/hour(which isn't unreasonable for something that can be construed as skilled labor with a skill/experience requirement). Whether that's worth it over someone just making their own generic slop is a different topic, though.
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>>8723708
>>8723715
Did artists that draw simple-as-fuck pics see any drop in revenue? I'm actually wondering, not in "artists btfo" kind of way, but it seems like artists' asking prices have not changed at all since AI became better. I see no logical reason to pay for mid pics like these unless you have extreme hate boner for AI.
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>>8723720
>>8723721
It's probably me being this absorbed on this hobby not knowing how long an actual drawing can take but even on the low end of real artists I think those are a little too expensive
I believe we should be more grateful with the slopmachine all things considered
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>>8723727
>It's probably me being this absorbed on this hobby not knowing how long an actual drawing can take but even on the low end of real artists I think those are a little too expensive
I mean, it's not about effort. WHY would a customer pay 60 bucks for a half-assed sketch when he can shit out something arguably better for free or for a price of a saas sub? Or pay 1/10th to a slopper. When it comes to high-skilled and popular artists, the absurd prices are understandable, but not so much with shitty artists.
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>>8723721
I think the hate was exacerbated a lot because commission demand went through the fucking roof during covid for all sorts of reasons. And I think that it started dropping really hard for lesser artists after AI started coming into swing.
And you can't really just drop your prices. You end up devaluing your work and things still take just as long to complete as they did before; it's the same as taking a pay cut. The real solution is for them to just get a real job instead.
>>8723720
oh and forgot to mention, once you do get large enough you get to inflate your prices out the ass since people aren't paying for a commission, they're paying for a commission from YOU specifically and chances are inflating price isn't going to stop all your slots from filling.
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>>8723721
It depends wildly on the artist with "simple" draw styles. I have seen people beg artists who draw cutesy simple art to reopen commissions, but those are only artists who tend to be rather likeable as people.

And then I see artists who make amazing art every other week never being available for anything. It baffles my mind.
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>>8723729
>The real solution is for them to just get a real job instead.
or start using AI, overtly or not. artist slopper is gonna be way more productive than just another paki grifter or a nodraw hobbyist
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>>8723733
they already learned one thing they're not smart enough to learn another.
and I mean that unironically. they learned to do things one way. A lot of them actually already learned a light amount of 3d modeling to shortcut and bang out traceable scenes. Having to drop that and learn how to wrangle image generation is too much for a lot of them to handle, especially if the only way it makes them more money is through the arcane and hard to calculate method of decreasing the time you spend on each commission.

also these kind of people are so high on their own farts that they'd consider it way too risky to try and actually execute on since if they fuck up somewhere and get found out then their entire social network is shot.
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>>8723046
Sure, but does everyone actually always inpaint each part of the body one after another, to make look good and consistent?
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>>8723764
Can't speak for everyone but I always do it
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nai just fucking losted lol
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local is great! [spoiler]its opposite day[/spoiler]
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Today I will post local gens
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>>8723708
Even basic stuff takes hours of work, for an hourly rate it's actually low.
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>>8723798
Why are you taking it as working hours when what he sell is a product?
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>>8723800
Well, a product is worth either the cost of materials and labor, or the price someone's willing to pay for it.
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>>8723805
you're replying to a fucking retard
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where/how do you install AA2 nowadays
it seems a lot harder than i thought itd be
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>>8723687
>>8723691
>>8723699
I did it, fucking finally. Used one loras and removed everything related to hair. That did the trick https://files.catbox.moe/dxyciq.png
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>>8723826
who even is she, unc?
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>>8723827
Chisa Sakurai from Lingeries Office, my favorite Hentai Anime ever.
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>>8723828
The MC in that took his job very seriously.
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>>8723830
As it should be my man. I fucking love that anime man, nothing comes even close, at least to me.
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>>8723516
I could remake mine for you but you'll have to give me a while. My gacha wife just released so I'll be baking for a bit. How does this look?
>>8723536
The worst "perf" issues you'll get is a loss of darks but that should be ok too in this case.
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>>8723530
Post an example.
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>>8723836
Where did you get this picture of my ass?
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>>8723838
How did you steal this post from my mind?
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>>8723609
kek
>baby
lmao
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>>8723837
https://files.catbox.moe/br1wzs.toml

I am fucking up somewhere.
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>>8723609
he's in my basement, we are drinking tea
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>>8723841
No I mean a picture. What were you trying to do and how did your lora turn out?
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>>8723708
Well those are very reasonable. Ive seen several that charge 100, 150 even fucking 200$+ for shit like that!
https://files.catbox.moe/af65rw.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/l0mxg5.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/scoygd.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/jwklum.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/mq247d.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/q58x56.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/op8art.jpg
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>>8723844
Character lora. No fanart, or even character design, only game screenshots. It worked for me with Illustrious with other characters previously, so I wanted to try to do the same now that I am moving on to NAI. A small test using this character before starting my heavier loras. No luck so far.

https://files.catbox.moe/nx3wbn.png
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>>8723831
This shit is exactly what AI is for. Now she will never be lost to time.
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>>8723845
i mean that's basically "piss off" price for this kind of quality
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>>8723850
Hmm there's another anon here that specializes in this particular thing but he uses SD scrips so I haven't been able to follow him. You have a couple choices if it's game screenshots.
>bake a style lora from the came with pics that don't include her; merge that lora into the base model; train your character lora on that merge and it should be fine
There are some settings you have to enable but I couldn't get it to work on ez scripts so idk. It should work fine in theory regardless though.
>use tag dropout at 0.5
Idk how to enable this since I don't see the option on ez scripts but allegedly it helps solve this particular problem
>use the character lora you've made now; img2img into several different styles to make a new dataset; bake again to add "variety" and you should be fine
If the current lora already gets her details correctly and you're only worried about the style then you can try this, otherwise bake for longer until all the details come out.
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>>8723852
Should barely cost 5$, even less Jesus. Then they start crying and whining about you being stingy like.... im not wasting 200$ for that piece of shit.

Anyway here actually quality
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>>8723850
please just cal it noob like everyone else
NAI stands for NovelAI
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>>8723708
Fellatrix charges $700 for one picture.
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>>8723865
he has fans willing to pay for it, so yeah understandable
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>>8723867
I mean yeah you're not wrong, but still. Even with that guy charging $70 it feels so strange to me as the consumer to pay that much for one picture. To the artist it's about the workload/time investment but the end product isn't worth $70, let alone $700. But maybe I'm just a filthy AIbro who's cheapened the value of art or something.
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>>8723859
Is easy lora trainer as ubiquitous as I was led to believe? Which one do you use?
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>>8723872
https://github.com/derrian-distro/LoRA_Easy_Training_Scripts
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>>8723845
>$200
Good lord. Please tell me you are joking. I saw a mexican street artist making ink portraits on the spot for $30. Good quality too. What kind of sucker pays for that? Seems more like a money washing racket to me.
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>>8723871
I guess it's like gacha. Eventually you'll find some whales who don't mind spending hundreds of dollars on their fetish, and in the meantime everyone else pays for their monthly 5$ sub.
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>>8723859
That "does look like the style somewhat" to me implies he's not trying to get rid of the style bias but the opposite.
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>>8723727
>>8723729
It's the old piracy argument. The people that weren't willing to pay those prices were never their target audience. Therefore AI isn't "taking their customers" just satisfying a need they were never going to provide. Now are some people swayed by paying a slopper $10 for 100 pics of the latest gacha slut instead of $100 for a big tits anime girl redraw? Yes but most who were already paying still are.
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>>8723877
He should've made ink furry porn instead
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>>8723817
Box? I fucking lost the artist that made those eyes and I've been trying to find him again.
>filename
Hmm...
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nai losted
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>>8723880
Oh if he's trying to get the style then he should put 3d in his tags and prompt 3d, then bake for longer. If worst comes to worst he'll have to use a 3d model rather than noob. >>8723850
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>>8723892
>he doesn't randomize his filenames
https://files.catbox.moe/11cgrt.png
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>>8723880
I have another lora that did get the character right, but it also allowed leniency when it came to art styles. I am trying to replicate the same effect here.

https://files.catbox.moe/8ohpya.png
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>>8723691
Grats on your success anon, now imagine if you could send that directly to a 3D printer.
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>>8723907
Ooops this was meant for >>8723826
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>>8723850
what game?
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>>8723907
>>8723909
>tfw I saw people make eroge figurines out of what can only be described as painted cotton and wires back in the 90s.

People would have killed for AI. Some guys were desperate for art and goods.
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>>8723912
Genshin Impact. I just like mob girls.
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>>8723835
Oh that looks great, will you post it on civitai? I don't lurk these threads too much but I'll be on the look out here if you're making it anytime soon, there's no rush ofc, all I'm hoping for is a style lora that doesn't stiffen poses and concepts too much.
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>>8723919
aren't all genshin characters already done to hell in civit?

Or is it the game look what you are missing?
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>>8723924
All the mob girls characters on civitai are done by me. So you are right in that regard.

I'm just trying to get it to work with noob though. My last attempt just yielded a black void, so I am not getting any closer.
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>>8723924
Playable ones yes, many even worked on Pony. But this looks like a sidequest NPC or a bystander.
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291H is really good for the stuff I've been trying to do, thanks to whoever rec'd me this one the other day, I would never have found it in the middle of all the other overhyped shitmixes that can't output anything remotely complex.

>>8723708
yeah that's too low btw.
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>>8723928
It's in the OP, in case you ever thought to read it. Along with 102d custom which has a weaker baked-in style, a bit closer to base noob.
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>>8723929
kek you're right, in my defense the thread that recommended me didn't have it then, for some reason.
>102d custom
that one was a complete failure for me. But I suck and definitely fucked up some settings for sure.
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What kind of artists can be used in this mix?
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>>8723934
>master1200
did you check the fullres for metadata? just in case
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>>8723938
it is from pixiv
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>>8723945
That "master1200" filename means you're saving the downsampled preview image and not the full size, on Pixiv.
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>>8723934
>>8723945
>shiny grey slop
it's WAI
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>>8723948
it's diffuse shine, not the usual highlights. WAI might actually struggle here
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>>8723946
I don't quite understand the difference, but okay. Btw it is NAI
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>>8723950
its probably an artist + vibe transfer
i know that grey from using it myself
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>>8723921
No I don't even have a civit account but I'll post it here within a day or two.
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Why does this creature want this ugly style?
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>>8723956
people just love shiny skin and haven't worked on AIslop enough to be disgusted at it and the grey filter, same way your mom can't immediately tell that the picure of Charlie Kirk bowling with Jesus her church group shared on Facebook isn't acutally real but made with Flux just by looking at the chins.
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>>8723929
Where were you when anons were shitting on people for posting those mixes in the OP? There was even a spitebake that returned it to the old template.
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>>8723956
it's nai
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>>8723950
>>8723945
>>8723934
Oekakizuki?
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>>8723950
It kinda reminds me of cham22, or chamchami on danbooru
the blush lines, face shape, and body type, but not the skin tone or ring highlights
must be mixed with something else
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>>8723956
Not everyone can have supreme god-tier taste like you, anon.
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>>8723958
...the chins?
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>>8723950
>>8723961
>>8723962
probably this guy:
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?tags=ai_love_higokko+&z=5

Bruh Danbooru turns into a trash can with a bunch of art created by AI
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>>8723953
looking forward to it
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>>8723859
>>use tag dropout at 0.5
>Idk how to enable this since I don't see the option on ez scripts but allegedly it helps solve this particular problem
except no, it doesn't help with this problem
>>8723850
consider this: during training, you are prompting the model. give the model such captions that would recreate everything except the desired character features perfectly. meaning you should tag the things you don't want the model to learn to produce without any tags. i.e. if you don't want 3d style to appear out of nowhere, try putting 3d in the captions
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>>8723969
What do you do when making a lora for multiple characters? They are meant to interact with each other eventually.
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local wonned
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>>8723973
nta but I would bake the loras entirely unpruned to minimize leaks, just tag literally everything. Then you can separate their effects using regional prompter.

another alternative is regional lora scheduling, bit of a pain for more complex interactions but doable
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the ugliest slop award
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>>8723973
i haven't made such loras myself but i imeagine aside from balancing datasets you would want to tag as much as you can + use aggressive tag dropout for character feature tags + never drop character names + tag and never drop the interactions the characters are involved with
to better understand what i mean, literally take some pic from the dataset and run the caption through the model you are going to train on (and don't build a snake oil house, use euler + no negs/zero negative conditioning), during training you would be correcting the model outputs to look like your dataset image
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It's crazy how there is massive, and I mean MASSIVE demand for loli/flat chest/small girl content and yet sites like Patreon ban you for giving the people what they want. There needs to be a loli-friendly subscription service. They would make so much money.
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uh oh
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>>8723982
except with the intention of using two loras you don't want any dropout at all
any time you drop a tag of her features you're biasing it towards applying to the whole image and not just her
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>>8723986
No one would be retarded enough to fall for such a blatant honeypot.
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its just a drawing
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A drawing of what?
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>>8723988
if you never the drop the character name, by occasionally dropping character features you are going to bind the features to the name
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>>>>>>>>/b/
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>>8723865
Are you fucking kissing me?!
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>>8723996
>kissing me
Fucking autocorrect
And 2, HOLY SHIT!
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>>8723996
*blushes*
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>>8723867
>fans
paypigs*
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>>8723877
The worst thing is there like dozen of those on twitter and im sure they are either the same guys because they ALL have the same artstyle
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>>8723877
>>8724000
>Shitter tumblr style nose artists
>$120 for torso crop / pinup
>+$50 for waist
>+$60 for legs
>+45 for color
>double for an extra chara
>No complicated poses, nothing lewd
The worst thing is the price point tells you their selling.
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>>8723836
catbox pretty please?
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>>8723877
>I saw a mexican street artist making ink portraits on the spot for $30
I have been doxxed, is so over chat....
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nai just wonned
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>>8723986
it's called subscribestar
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>>8723851
well said my dear anon
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is there a tag for this iris wobbliness on danbooru?
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>>8724043
wavy eyes
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>>8724045
thank you kind anon
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>>8723950
>>8723945
>>8723934
Reminder that if you fap to umas with hair accessories on their right ear, you're gay. That said, more scarlet horse pussy please.
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>>8724055
how about you gen your own bitchboy?
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>>8724056
no gpu, no $25.
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post cunny
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>>8724068
Why you want me banned again
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>>8724069
just box it
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>>8724071
Happy now?
>https://files.catbox.moe/hr6nxc.png
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>>8724069
Catch a ban for posting small breasted girls anyway has to be DD or bigger min.
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What are some good butt hole artists?
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>>8723708
That artist has pretty low prices. Pretty low quality, too.

If you want just some random image to look at for five seconds and then toss away, go nuts with AI Gen. But if you want something very specific with specific characters, best to find an artist with reasonable prices to do that for you. I've got a pending commission with an artist right now for a 3 character image with an MMO OC and two other characters. Went over several revisions to the sketch to get it exactly where I want it and I'm just waiting on final delivery now. And it's $220. Not a bad price for 3 characters with variants to the image.
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>>8723967
kek the guy actually made it into danbooru. A living legend. His stuff has always been sloppy but everyone loves it.
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>>8724094
ikuchan kaoru
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>>8724116
>But if you want something very specific with specific characters
AI can do that too doebeit?
>MMO
Even better if you have a reference pic rather than DnD shit or textgen words.
>Not a bad price for 3 characters with variants to the image.
It's particularly bad since you can just inpaint??
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>>8724116
Wasn't Miqoteanon's waifu his FFXIV's character? Pretty sure he based her out of his game character, and made a model out of it.
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>>8724149
I'm guessing I am not that person. I'm relatively new to these threads. This is my Miqo.
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>>8724153
Well, at least you are not a cuck like the other one so you are good
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>>8724153
Oh, I figured you were not. Miqoteanon's girl is blonde, lots of makeup, and huge tits (modded game, I presume). He is kind of a meme here.

Hah. I actually still kept an image from the pony days.
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>>8724158
I suppose that's true. I've never genned her getting railed in any capacity. But I don't think of her as a waifu either. She's just a dress up doll that is really easy to lewd with AI... and to make her super smug.
https://files.catbox.moe/0ty29g.jpg
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>>8724166
if i was paying 200 dollars for a commission id want an actual art piece wearing a transmog set
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>>8724168
That is what I'm getting. The images I posted here are just AI gens.
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idk what to gen rn
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>>8724173
Your black dude being a responsible, loving father.
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>>8724175
anon, I'm so sorry... I generate fantasies, not miracles...
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Cute and wholesome sex between people that love each other is my fetish.
Here are some other takes (one with extra fingers and two that should go in /u/)
https://files.catbox.moe/ciqrdo.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/w63fyf.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/xqi1g8.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/dbw9rn.jpg
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>>8724183
You get extra points for not genning shoggoth pussy fleshfiend.
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>>8724173
Oppai loli is the new hotness among the /hgg/ creatives
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>>8724189
The only one doing that is aimai tho
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>>8724197
No. You will notice that I never prompt for fat/ugly dudes.

I'm also far too vanilla.
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>aimai
Whomst
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whomstve
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>>8724197
There are t least three anons (myself included) genning Kanna, that's like 75% of the people ITT.
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>>8724238
would've been more if the threads weren't split
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>>8724183
Absolute degeneracy.
But also heracy for a different reason I guess. Nagisa is pure, though she did admit to her parents they were banging and she has a kid so actually canon.
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huh, found some really weird trick
positive prompt: <quality tags><break><your normal positive prompt>
negative prompt: <negative quality tags><break><your normal positive prompt>
this lets you do cfg over 10 on noob vpred 1.0, and the results are pretty cool
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>>8724259
cool now try this
<no quality tags><no break><your positive prompt>
<no negs>
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>>8724259
>cfg over 10
actually it only works for dark images for some reason
regardless, this reminds me of novelai's smea somehow, if you use cfg 4-9
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>>8724261
same seed, cfg and tag weights adjusted to not blow up
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>>8723931
It's all down to personal preference and how a bake handles your artist mix. Both 291h and 102d custom are top 2 shitmixes for sure. I relied on both for certain mixes but did give 291h the slight edge as a whole.
That said merged super sekret 291(non h) & silly greek letter shits on both of them.
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>>8723934
d-dios mio... el torso infinito..
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>>8724011
ledias nuked all his content relating to lolis on subscribestar and payment processors are putting the squeeze to them. It's really no longer about the platform, but the payment processor. You don't play ball, they freeze you out. Good luck hosting and paying your creators without income flow.
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>>8723609

He appeared! He is here again!!!
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Thanks to all who helped!
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what happened this time, sweetie?
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ban all naifaggots ffs
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the last one me barf a bit, could a human really shit that out?
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>>8724299
I think it's just a picture of British food.
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>food analogy
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>>8723836
>cute animu gril licking a fat bastard's hairy asshole
Why would you create something gross and wrong like this?
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>>8724307
It's hot.
The only issue with that pic is the 4 finger hand.
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>>8724308
It is not hot. Send that shit to /d/.
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>>8724309
What makes it /d/?
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>>8724309
Cry about it.
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>>8724312
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Her age, address and ssn?
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>>8724314
she is 18+
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wawaweewa...
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How many steps to train a noob lora?
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idk
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>>8724319
Really depends on your settings and dataset. Run 3K, save epochs along the way then do an XY chart comparison.
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>>8724326
That's more or less what I did. I ran for 2500 steps, about 2 hours. The details are still off somewhat, like her medallion and the decoration on her clothing.

Actual prompt.

https://files.catbox.moe/dtv4ez.png

Game screenshot.

https://files.catbox.moe/o1pms9.png
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>>8724330
Two things I can think of for those details, increase dim size or add close-up images. Either could help, depending on what the underlying cause is.
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>>8724376
wow absolutely amazing synthesis of western, eastern and realism. its beautiful and progressive
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>>8724330
if you want the details to be 100% right, your only way is to go full fine tuning
there are some things that make lora training not quite right, most notably it trains layers unevenly
except in your case it seems like just baking for longer and optionally lowering lr/increasing bs is gonna be enough
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>>8724376
did wamu draw that
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This place seems to have healed.
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>>8724431
Why do you say so, how was before, how it is now
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>>8724436
You're better off not knowing the history
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>>8724431
:^)
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>>8724437
Little chatter, I am here almost every fucking day, the only difference for the past week or so was my absence
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>>8724436
scat spammer moved to /e/ that's all
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>>8724442
>it's actually true
I was sure that schizo fucking died or something. Grim.
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>>8724445
How would he die if you're him?
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>>8724451
Well, I know that I'm not immortal so I could die, theoretically.
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>>8724376
>>>/e/3003558
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hihiiiiiii~ <333333
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kys <33333333
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Where can I find this lora? (sound warning)
https://files.catbox.moe/qyqz4f.webm
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>>8724480
That one is probably not local, but there was some anon here a while ago that trained some loras on rubens and the like.
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>>8724480
it's chroma
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>>>/e/3003578
>>>/e/3003579
>>>/e/3003581
what causes this
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Legally consenting adults aged 30+
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>/d/ shit
fuck off
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I fucking HATE bulgaria
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>>8724511
calm down kurumuz
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/trash/ still no diffs the stale uncreative slop that gets posted here
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:^(
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>>8724525
Oh but I thought /trash/ and /d/ were the only ones with creative effort posters?
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>>>/trash/77946860
catbox if local?
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>>8724525
Then you might wanna go back
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/trash/ - was always garbage, will always be garbage
/h/ - was one time good, now garbage
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48/96 dim/alpha/conv/alpha.
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/trash/ - was garbage, now good
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/h/ - was good, will be good in the future
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/hgg/ was good a mere 10 threads ago.
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>>8724533
I agree
>>>/trash/77947066
>>>/trash/77947100
>>
owowawow?
woaiwiwoaowo!!!
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trash never was good, isn't good and never will be, but it at least sometimes gets some decent posts due to sheer volume of stuff that gets posted there. unlike h where it's essentially just shitposting now
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cope and seethe :^)
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What model is this?
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Chat would rather engage on the same stale baits over and over again than talking to me on the discord :(
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>doing anything smut related on discord
would rather not get raided by the feds
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where the fuck is cathag though?
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>>8724550
he died 8 days ago
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>>8724540
what causes this
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kinda weird to have so many pictures of doodoo saved
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>>8724563
I am pretty sure he just talks to himself, and posts one NAI pics to justify posting them during janny sleepy time. He always does it at very specific times of night.

He is so consistent that I assume that he has a scat fetish.
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>>8724270
>merged super sekret 291
I searched around, couldn't find anything, I'd like some more hints anon
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>break
what's the comfy ui equivalent of this?
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>>8724634
conditioning (concat)
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>>8724636
welp, I see now why people prefer the other ui kek
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>a billion flies cannot be wrong about shit!
Yup, you should just use the "other" UI, you clearly lack the skill and character to use an UI that gives you actual power to define what you gen
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what ui is that lil sis yappin' about
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>>8724638
cool it, it's just a joke. I found a custom node that solves this issue in less than a min of research anyway. Now I can just use break on comfy
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How can I prevent a character lora from affecting other areas in a regional prompt?
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>>8724550
fuck you
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>>8724644
you cant because local is outdated shitware
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slop
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bro came back 50 minutes later to repeat the same bait :skull:
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Chat, I was working on my gen but it wasn't looking good so I ditched the whole thing, I think it is a nice gen idea so I'll try a different approach later
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>>8724681
You got this king, keep on grinding!
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>>8724681
Anon, you have to let us go. It wasn't your fault.
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>>8724682
Not really, there was a lot of things to correct, a little more than I was willing to do to the point that it made released that my initial way of attempt it probably wasn't the best

>>8724683
It's always my fault chat, hate my incopentence sometimes
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>>8724685
I know what you are trying to do and I recommend using layering and inpainting. Generate separately, then layer them inside a single image. Will be far less painful.
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>>8724686
That's exactly what I was doing lol
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>>8724687
Oh. Well then, keep at it and good luck.
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>>8724629
Chances are you're not going to get it anymore unless an anon seeds it again. I forget the details but an anon (maybe Pancho?) merged it with noob 1.0 and it was pretty damn good but a bit unstable (which is what 291h was trying to stabilize with loras) but since noob never released 29 to the public, no one wanted to upload it publicly so only torrents floated around in base64 encodes.
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How do I stop samefagging?
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>>8724692
Step one: Stop
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i finally quit local and subbed to nai
what a freeing experience
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i say thats
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i finally took a bullet to my head
what a freeing experience
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>>8724694
i see a lot of people saying this
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https://files.catbox.moe/3dx8g5.jpg
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no
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yes
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maybe
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I don't know
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can you repeat the question
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Top 10 /hgg/ moments
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what would cathag think about this
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>>8724264
box plz anon? I like the pose.
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Where's catfag?
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why is bro baiting this hard :skull:
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>>8724498
catbox please?
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help
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I've never seen a good nai gen except a few guys who are obvious putting in the effort.
yet my local stuff is still superior in many ways and I've only started 2 weeks ago
so I don't understand this shilling, it feels so desperate lmao I wonder if nai are gonna EOS soon
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a little close to being a good bait but is still lacking some sense, try again
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>>8723968
Here is the lora.
https://pixeldrain com/u/hzAXppyQ
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>>8724330
Gen on ΣΙΗ-1.5
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>>8724376
>asura
>asurauser
Thank you for posting.
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>>8724784
>1.5
Ruined
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>>8724781
>>8723835
What model did you use and how did you train it? That looks very close to the original art.
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>>8724794
>What model did you use
ΣΙΗ
>how did you train it
Anon's config. Bake for 30 epochs and test every 20 steps until I find one I like.
https://litter.catbox.moe/njxx2xahgshgzql0.toml
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>>8724804
Got it. Thank you.
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What settings do you guys use with 102d custom? Is CFG rescale necessary since it's vpred?
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i use novelai 4.5 and it works really well
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>8724742
based and true
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nobody is actually using nai
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I'm using it but never posting
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of course you are
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>>8724851
tsmt
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i actually do use nai because my friend gave me a scraped opus key but i wouldnt pay for it
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i think your a faggot
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>>8724644
There is a way to limit the influence of a lora to only one region. The "how"depends on your UI.
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>>8724847
it's slopped just enough to not need rescale anymore in most cases, you can just use euler or whatever but keep cfg lower around 4
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NAI should'nt be the easiest thing in the world?

if with simple stuff you get this bad shit, why would anyone use this instead of local AI?
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>>8724879
>why would anyone use this instead of local AI?
Character reference and complex compositions local just can't do consistently due to its lack of target#/source#/mutual# macros.
>make a LoRA
Too much effort, can't be arsed to first prepare the dataset then bake it then finetune the training settings then bake it again with better settings.
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have yet to see an example of such complex compositions though
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>>8724879
NAI just gives better outputs so once you learn how to artist mix it's the best option we have right now. After playing with it for a while local just feels so stiff with every angle you get for different sex positions. If all you ever do is pov cowgirl like everyone in these threads that gen locally then it might be hard to tell the difference.
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>>8724879
>why would anyone use this instead of local AI?
25 dollars is a lot cheaper than a gpu
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>>8724882
>learn how to artist mix
There's nothing to learn, the combinations are effectively random and in the first place reliant on you knowing the styles of hundreds of artists by heart. You either know artists and do it or you don't and have no clue where to even begin. The only artists I know are VN artists and they just don't mesh well at all.
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>>8724884
>I'm retarded therefore the tool is bad
What the fuck? So use artists the model is trained on, what kind of argument is that.
>Illustrious sucks because I tried to prompt Van Gogh and it didn't work!!
Like what the fuck are you talking about
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>>8724884
Wait, so how are you using local then? Without prompting artists?
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or you can use local and get any artist you want~~~
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>>8724885
What the fuck are YOU talking about? The artists I'm prompting ARE in the training data but they, unlike the more recent gachashitters, have been drawing for so long that their early and current styles are very different and usually average out to something terrible, and their styles are also fairly distinct so that might also be why they don't mix well.
>>8724886
I only prompt one artist at a time, be it in NAI or in local. At least I know what I'm prompting for there.
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>>8724888
you sound like you have crippling autism
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>>8724888
Prove it then. Post an image.
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>artist mixing is completely random!!
>oh but also I never prompt more than one artist ever so I'm not actually ever mixing anything...but it doesn't work uhhh just because!!!
Wow. Localtards are really not sending their best today.
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>>8724888
this sounds like a aging problem grammpa
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>>8724892
You're confusing the cause and the effect. I never prompt for more than one artist BECASUE my every foray into artist mixing resulted in garbage.
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ok where guide to NAI?
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>>8724891
gotta love second ballsack tits
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>>8724895
just... write
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>>8724895
just deposit more anals and write...
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give me good NAI prompts!
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naishills in full force today huh
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>>8724900
catbox please??
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>>8724902
it's...
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this thread can only improve if more people use nai
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the shitty truth is that nai is the best regional prompter that local has available right now
it is the only way to get decent images to i2i or inpaint. hate paying for this shit but it saves so much time when prompting 3+ characters
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>nai nai nai
kys kys kys :3
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>>8724906
Go back to /hdg/ if you want to sit and cry about people actually discussing image gen advancements.
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i surely AM paying for nai AND using it! i'm just not posting it!
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>>8724881
Yeah, every single NAI picnive seen posted here is either
>1girl, 1boy, sex
>1girl, absurdly grotesque anal prolapse
The only one that does something even remotely complex is the rule 34 hating autist using it for ffm strapon threesomes, since those would be way more annoying to do with local tools.
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>>8724905
funniest possible use of their model
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>>8724910
They somehow managed to bake a model with an uglier aesthetic bias than base noob.
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>>8724910
well im not going to inpaint with their model and the artist mixing sucks. but image composition is miles ahead of local in my experience. all regional prompter can do for 3+ characters is 1girl standing side by side or pov group sex
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>>8724913
why wouldn't you use inpainting? I don't care much about cool compositions but man I hate not having proper 1 denoise inpainting on local desu
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>>8724914
all the inpainting ive tried on nai has been really shitty, either leaving noticeable artifacts or completely fucking the style of the image making it more grey
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>>8724907
you lost naishill
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>>8724915
interesting, I thought its pretty great when I used it and didnt have much issues.
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>>8724916
I'm not the one who has to spam scat while throwing a baby temper tantrum. We won.
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jeeeeeek
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>>8724913
>all regional prompter can do for 3+ characters is 1girl standing side by side or pov group sex
Done a few different ones list time someone asked, it's not so bad. >>>/u/4468442
Not pictures but you could also combine it with controlnet if you're really struggling, draw some blobs for the girls' poses and it's easy from there.

Don't wanna bash NAI as I haven't seen or tried what it can really do. Most people seem content without, it's hard to even find an image using those capabilities.
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>>8724921
As I said, regional prompter is fine for a side by side pinup pose or pov group sex like that image. I'm talking about a more dynamic angle with multiple characters, even something as basic as a from side view of a spit roast or something. In my experience, regional prompter struggles the second you get out of pov angles
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i wanna preface this, this scat spammer does not represent us, local
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idgaf about NAI, im earning so much in my patreon with local and I will keep like that lol
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>>8724925
Yeah hopefully it's common sense that extreme schizos don't represent the group they're "for".
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>>8724912
it's not quite as bad but it's very ponylike in that regard
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>>8724929
its not cursed with sepia though, its cursed with sketch and very flat aesthetic, also very noisy. its possible to steer it away from that, but the newfag 4.5 images look absolutely abhorrent
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>>8724931
it might not be sepia but it has an ugly brown tint to it though, I'm not even sure I've seen a nai image without it
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>>8724932
I did see some decent images but yeah I know what you mean, most images do have this. I guess e621 really is fucking poison lol
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>>8724931
I wouldn't say innate sketch style is a curse though, it makes every output feel less like AI. I find it's way better than most innate local styles just being generic shine slop
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fuck off naishill
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>>8724934
nai v3 was peak "non-ai" though
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>>8724933
>I guess e621 really is fucking poison lol
local doesn't have that issue though if anything it's the opposite, their architecture is just fucked
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>>8724936
That was more thanks to SMEA (RIP) than anything else though
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>>8724934
I'd agree but its innate sketch style is ugly and dirty, also very bland. It doesnt look like ai in traditional sense, true, but that doesnt make it look good. like I said it's possible to steer away from this but nai's main demographic are computer illiterates, they won't bother, so the default aesthetic plays a huge role in resulting images, and they're pretty bad.
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>>8724923
Yeah maybe. I just don't see people doing those much at all, nai or local. Don't have a single attempt in my gen archive for the past few months.
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>>8724936
v3 was melty as fuck though?
nai still hasn't managed to really get anything that doesn't feel like AI. The only real way to accomplish that are real specific types of loras on local with, ideally, a lot of post-editing.
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>>8724942
I just want to gen two OC having sex and right now novel ai is way quicker to get working. Local id have to bake loras for each then fumble around with regional prompter
Maybe my use case is niche compared to others but this seems to be the best option
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>>8724936
after a while of being exposed to v3 images you start to see its style but honestly even with being recognizable they still look best. no doubt that was just a fluke on anlatan's part though, considering how 4.5 tends to look
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>>8724945
So you use character reference for both of them at once?
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>>8724948
Yeah, it works great in my experience. You can do 3 characters too but it does start to bleed a bit
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>>8724948
>>8724950
Wait no, character reference is that new janky feature they put out. I don't use that. For OC you can just prompt them directly as NAI allows you to specify character descriptions and split the prompt
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>>8724951
Well mentioning Loras confused me, you could prompt their features much the same way on local.
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>>8724952
But you can't separate them which is my problem. BREAK never works so you end up with all their features blending together. So you do it in regional prompter but then it goes back to my issue of being able to do more than just pov sex with them
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>>8724954
I wonder who started the urban myth that BREAK is supposed to isolate characters.
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why is this bot talking to himself
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>>8724955
If there's any other way to do it on local I'd love to hear it
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>>8724955
Regional prompter changes the BREAK behavior and it does serve to separate characters. But yeah without RP it's not useful for this.
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>>8724958
BREAK just resets the input register. It can very technically impact separation but it is in no way an actual function of doing so. It's about as viable an option as spinning around in your chair and doing a dance before hitting the generate button.

either way the "best way" of doing separation in local is to gen placeholders and then masked inpainting or breaking up the canvas manually and stitching the scene together.
>>8724961
>Regional prompter changes the BREAK behavior
I haven't used regional prompter since 1.5 days but wasn't BREAK only really used as a separator from the regional prompter mechanism? You basically shouldn't be using it at all except at the end before your lora spam or whatever. Everything else should be defined by ADDROW/ADDCOL and your defined zones.
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>>8724954
Like I said if you're struggling with compositions when using regional prompter you can always gen without it first, then use that image as a controlnet reference while focusing only on the characters' features the second time around.

>>8724963
addcol/addrow is forge couple I think, not regional
same thing under the hood, just a different way of defining regions
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>>8724965
nah addrow addcol is regional prompter, it just allows you to also use BREAK for separation depending on your settings. i never used forge couple but didnt it just use newlines?
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pic unrelated
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>>8724954
Think I just realized why nobody uses it for non-pov stuff. Either you're prompting a guy in unnecessary detail or it's yuri/futa.

It is pretty unreliable but I am not getting feature leaks, just unstable composition. So yeah gen without first and then controlnet cope, draw your region masks based on the reference image.
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>>8724987
Or I could just prompt each OC in NAI and spend a fraction of the time at the cost of worse styles. I get what you're saying and understand it's capable but that seems like such an unnecessary amount of work just to get a single image of two characters having sex
And yes it's yuri
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>>8724993
> at the cost of worse styles
fate worse than death tbdesu
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Or you could just kys
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>>8724995
Some of the mixes on nai are nice, I think people here doompost too much about it. Or it's just that one anti-nai schizo, which is probably more likely
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>>8724993
Right. Do what you want, just saying it's an option.
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>>8724997
pretty sure even the pro-NAI fags on infinite have admitted the only way to reasonably expect semi-consistent style output that looks remotely like how they want have to rely entirely on a few specific weird prompt gimmicks combined with vibe transfer.
that said you can take bland generic style outputs and upscale with cranked denoise to apply actual style to them on local. Just seems like kind of a waste at that point though.
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>>8724997
Part of it is the schizo of course but 4.5 is just legit very meh with styles, you have to put in effort into tardwrangling it to produce something that isn't very off-putting. Even then, the images are just *fine*, not actually very appealing like they were with v3 or how it can be with good local loras. It's a pity because it's actually really good in every other aspect.
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that's what you get for abandoning sdxl
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>>8725004
People said it's probably the text encoder. It not leaking concepts was supposed to be an advantage, but the same then applies to style mixing.
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>>8725005
style mixing is generally okay with 4.5, it's the model having an ugly style bias is the issue which is not a te problem. in 2 months i was using 4.5 i didn't have a tag confusion issue even once btw, clip is retarded
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baked
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>>8724884
An anon said he vibe coded a browser extension which helped give recommendations for similar artists when he saw one he liked. Naturally he never released it nor do the people that constantly search danbooru explain what their process is. All I can recommend is finding a particular tag you like, say "skindentation" or "mature female" and then searching that tag for hours until you find a couple artists you like. But yes, either you know artists or you're fucking screwed, especially if you're brand new.
>>8724885
This is some top-tier dishonesty. 4chan is really the worst place to have any serious discussion now.
>>8724888
The responses to this comment prove the above. Anyway, this is why anons here have started making loras for artists with their name as activation tag. A lot of them have improved since the early days so keeping that old shit really fucks up your outputs. Still, artist mixing is more about making sure to get all the features you want in one pic. "x does lines good but I want y's body with z's fluids" and so on but as anon said earlier don't get so lost in mixing the sauce that you forget how good a simple steak is.
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>>8724910
We used to pay to make loras out of their outputs back in the pony days so I don't see the difference. This one was funnier since I only had to pay occasionally when I wanted something rather than all the time like him.
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>>8724915
Someone said something about there being a new model or such but I don't use it so I don't remember. Have you tried switching inpainting models? Everyone always praised NAI's inpaint but maybe that's because local was particularly bad?
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>>8724993
>that seems like such an unnecessary amount of work just to get a single image
Welcome to local my friend. "Local is better if you don't value your time, NAI is better if you do." Words to live by ever since NAI v3's release. You could always technically do everything NAI did but at the cost of effort. Things are much easier now but still.
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>>8724934
>just being generic shine slop
I agreed with you until this since the entire point of this is that you've seen it too much, not that it's actually bad. See enough NAI outputs and you'll hate that too.
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>>8724936
>>8724944
kek
>>8724946
>no doubt that was just a fluke on anlatan's part though
We're coming to the plateau. Even the major LLM companies are admitting they just brute force everything until it works...
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>>8725025
>finding a particular tag you like and then searching that tag for hours
You can also use related tag search, to find artists that specialize and not just drew it once. Like this https://danbooru.donmai.us/related_tag?commit=Search&search%5Bcategory%5D=Artist&search%5Border%5D=Overlap&search%5Bquery%5D=mature_female+
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>>8725032
funnily the dude described the "process" for this pic and it literally just was ooga booga prompt 1girl and artists and hit enhance.
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>>8725034
Thank you this helps, but you still need to manually look at them.
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>>8725025
>This is some top-tier dishonesty
I think the dishonesty is someone complaining about artist mixing and then proceeding to say they only ever prompt a single artist anyway. For whatever reason people here can't accept that Novel AI does some things better than local so they constantly have to shitpost about it even though they themselves contradict their prior statements after only a single post. I understand we can't talk about Novel AI here anymore without schizos losing their mind but claiming everything you disagree with as dishonesty is hilariously ironic.
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>>8724918
>>8724922
>>8724924
Catbox? Thank god those aren't girls with small breasts, otherwise they'd be deleted by now (4 HOURS LATER)
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>>8725054
Did you report it?
I honestly just got tired after a while, what's the point if jannies and even mods are utterly helpless to stop it. Cleaning up after the fact doesn't help.
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it's fucking leleck
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isn't that a code gayass character
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>>8725051
Being new and asking for help is not dishonesty. Being new and hesitating to do something tedious for an unknown reward is not dishonesty. Being experienced and intentionally misunderstanding what someone says is dishonesty. Being experienced and pretending like you don't know what he's talking about is dishonesty.
>complaining about mixing then claiming he only prompts one artist
His meaning was clear in his original post and he said it again to clarify but you still parrot this now because you're trying to "win" an argument with me. I don't care about the argument or care about saving face, I want to return this general to a helpful place by being the change.
>NAI
It doesn't have anything to do with NAI. Artist mixing has always been a pain in the ass, which is why most people ask for catboxes and move on. Then you had one retard complaining about not sharing his prompts to freeloading nogens but he is not here.
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>>8725080
>His meaning was clear
His original post was a common shitpost that is always parroted here despite there being mountains of evidence contrary to the fact of people doing consistent artist mixing on NAI v3 and v4.5. Again, you claiming any dishonesty here atop your proverbial high horse is hilariously ironic. You aren't trying to return this general into anything but another clone of /hdg/ constantly flinging shit whenever anything non-local is discussed.
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>>8725085
Then what do you suppose we do?
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>>8725088
Stop having complete meltdowns whenever anyone brings up NAI would be a good start.
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>thread about lora baking
>let's discuss nai
no, make your own thread
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>>8725089
>respond earnestly
>more dishonesty
What the hell are you talking about bro? When did I even say anything about NAI? Yeah I don't give a shit about this.
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>When did I even say anything about NAI?
>constantly have to shitpost about it even though they themselves contradict their prior statements
kek
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naisissies scream like little bitches when they see a bit of scat lol
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"Nai is better than X at local" might as well read "I have a skill issue and need a dumbed down solution"
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I am a naisissy AMA
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>>8725100
This. It's not about what's "easy", it's about what's right. Stop using the easy retarded aislopper way and pick up the fucking pencil.
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>>8725100
SO MUCH THIS, no idea why people dont just load up a few loras, do an initial image gen, then manually sketch over it, then use it for controlnet then upscale it, then inpaint over it
it is literally easier than ever to get exactly what you want on local and people waste their time with a fucking SaaS like nai
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If you wanted to have a serious discussion about nai, you'd make a new thread with helpful op info and relevant links. By posting here instead, you're immediately admitting that you're ungenuine and a troll.
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>>8725080
Even though it might not seem like any sane anons are still around, I'm still here checking in every day. I also want to bring back the lora baking autism, since shitposters seemed to be quite allergic to it.
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>>8725111
Why not make a new thread specifically about lora baking then?
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>>8725111
that one lora nigga stopped baking and started shitposting
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>>8725094
4chan is 1 person btw
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>>8725114
Pretty much. I spent 2 hours this morning just replying to myself in this thread.
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>>8725112
Because back in the early days of /hdg/ lora baking discussions (technical discussion around gens in general) became the thread identity. That was the difference compared to /hdg/ where the focus was more on image posts.
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>>8725122
Genuinely asking here, if lora baking is the focus instead of posting any hentai images then why wouldn't this thread just work better on /g/?
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which snake oils do you guys like with noob vpred?
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>>8725128
rescale cgf but that isn't snakeoil. Also prefer deepshrink to hiresfix for inital upscaler
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>>8725128
Base noob vpred? single lora at low weight to stabilize and CFG++ samplers, shitmixes? none
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Chat, can we embrace tripcodes for this thread? I am more than sure this would avoid most if not all shitpost
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>>8725141
We could flee to another thread, just the two of us
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>>8725148
pretty nice
could use a part 2 on /d/, but still
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>>8725150
the fuck
someone stole my comment
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>>8724634
box?
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any tricks (or an actually good lora) for getting criss-cross halter bikinis? such as https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/9973019?q=criss-cross_halter+bikini for example
I downloaded https://civitai.com/models/518864?modelVersionId=1534086 but it fucks with style, posing and composition too much, and at lower weights it just does that without actually giving me the bikini, so it's just a shit lora
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>>8724882
what? I can do poses on local I've never seen any nai losers ever do
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>>8725165
can i see??
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She was caught stealing food.
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>>8725163
Try genning bare tiddies and paint the bikini over them before upscaling.
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>>8725165
same
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>>8725163
The tag for that is sling bikini top
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What's this style called?
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>>8725155
eh?
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>>8725177
catbox?
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>>8725178
what?
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>>8725179
eh?
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>>8725175
oh man thanks
unironically we need an LLM with knowledge of danbooru tags whom we could ask for prompts
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>>8725182
catbox?
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>>8725178
you mean you want my workflow? I literally started less than 2 weeks ago it's just basic bitch stuff. Using the 291h checkpoint and vpred fix, that's it really. I still haven't figured out how to do adetailer or proper high res fix on comfy lmao
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>>8724183
very based, unfortunately it's a rare fetish nowadays
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>>8725187
very samefag
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>>8725186
Post it
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>>8724634
You can install https://github.com/asagi4/comfyui-prompt-control to get BREAK control through prompting
>>8725186
and yes, he wants your workflow because your gen looks good
you can upload your image to https://catbox.moe/ and link it here, and it'll let others load your workflow thanks to the metadata
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>>8725164
Nice thong
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>>8725163
Hard to believe a 28K images concept would not work on noob, you're probably just prompting for it wrong. Pic is what I got first try with "criss-cross halter" and "bikini".

But if you're set on using this crappy lora... If it was just composition bias or just style you could use scheduling, only activate the lora for the early/late steps. Like this though, it's a long shot but maybe gen without lora first to set up your composition, then use controlnet while masking out the bikini area to be ignored, and disable the lora after the first 40-70% of steps to partially negate its style bias.

>>8725175
That's different, for when the straps don't cross over each other above her chest.
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>>8725194
Just prompt for both
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>>8725194
the issue with criss-cross halter and bikini is that it contains so many different styles of bikini tops
for example https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/9933149?q=criss-cross_halter+bikini
and I'm not set on using a shitty lora, I've already tried scheduling it, it's just a shit lora and I've dropped it
I think genning nude and just painting on the bikini I want is probably the best way as >>8725172 said
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>>8725199
criss-cross halter just describes how the bikini is held up, you need another tag for the cut like sling bikini or eyepatch bikini
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>>8725206
Is she surprised she's wearing underwear?
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>>8725209
she is surprised my BGC isn't inside her yet
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>>8725210
Gallic? Ghanaian? Guatemalan?
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>>8725211
german
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>>8725211
Greek
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>>8725211
Girthy
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cyka blyat volkswagen idi nahui pizdec
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>>8725211
Girl
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I am a girl
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>>8724862
Aren't they out of circulation now for a while?
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why
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honestly nai is incredible
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>>8725122
>>8725123
I don't see why it can't be both. This thread is supposed to be the managed decline of the glory days of /hdg/.
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>>8725257
100% agree
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what's with the brown tint
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here comes the scat posting
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Ska-badabadabadoo-belidabbelydabbladabbladabblabab-belibabbelibabbelibabbelabbelo-doobelidoo
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nai losted so fucking hard it's not even funny :(((((((
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>>8725281
>>>/pol/516562428
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>>8725309
Cool monster (?) girl and nice background, but a bit too shiny slop skin for me.
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>>8725032
the anatomy of that picture is all sorts of fucked up and there's a lot of weird tells it's AI if you actually know what you're looking for.
also they literally added film grain in post to hide the melty linework.
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>>8725309
cute levi
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>>8725313
>they literally added film grain in post to hide the melty linework.
my favorite hack so far
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>>8725122
the problem with lora baking is that it's hard-to-start, easy to become decent, and ***extremely*** hard to get past that.
first filters out curious newfags, second attracts and holds in literal retards, schizos and autists of sorts who can't wrap their head around such simple concept as "function" but brag about their success, and anyone making a breakthrough will be forced out of here because unless there's a braindead simple ui for the thing AND some confirmation from retards that the thing works, no fucking one is gonna even attempt to try it (not that they know how even spoonfed)
also
>b-but you're t-the i...idea guy
people like this must be shot on the spot
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>>8725332
I'm more of a midwit than a retard and I never brag about my results, I post pictures. You're free to criticize the results but you never do, except in a sarcastic, passive-aggressive manner like this, of course. B-but you're t-the—
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>>8724781
It's fucking excellent, thank you anon!
I'm new but this is really the first time I'm seeing a style lora that doesn't ruin everything unless at very low values, stiffen the poses and concepts or add 2 or 3 more heads or make dicks pop out of the girl's mouth. Or try to gen a paizuri when I never asked for it, like in the TRex loras I've tried (though tbf they were made for Illu and not Noob)
I kinda hope you'll make a deraua/motto haramase style lora too.. Or maybe I'll try learning to do my own loras because those people at Civitai must be doing something wrong.
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>>8725378
Even if it was made for Illu what you're saying sounds very bad. That lora doesn't do dark-skinned male or dark scenes well though, despite there being night pics in the dataset.
>deraua/motto haramase
I would need a dataset. I had to spend a lot of time scouring some sketchy site to find hires pics (not screencaps) from T-Rex studio but I doubt I'll get that lucky with any other hentai.
>Civitai must be doing something wrong
I guess so if it's that bad. I've seen some good bakers on civit but they're few and far between.
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>>8725309
Levi isn't a loli though. She is just small breasted (specially compared to most in the Nikke cast). Jannies are overzealous sometimes.
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:^)
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the pinnacle of genuine /h{d,g}g/ lora discussion past pony
>baking is piss easy
>*i'm posting pictures made with my new lora, take a look*
>a/b proofs or gtfo (no i'm too lazy to do it myself on my good datasets)
>it's just a 6gb lora isn't it
>your proofs aren't proofs and i won't believe you until you show something i like
>*graveyard silence treatment to a new trick*
>i spent 50 hours curating the dataset but this config werks better than anything i tried before
>yeah yeah this seems cool i'll test it (he never reported back)
>it will never work on my [ui/rtx 750ti/easy scripts/1.44 mb storage raid]
>is this supposed to look good?
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thats why we should all use novelai
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>>8725387
Doesn't have anything to do with jannies, just shitposters that are reporting him. Notice how long it took for the scat to get deleted.
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>>8725389
>baking is piss easy
trolls
>*i'm posting pictures made with my new lora, take a look*
Me but I never get (You)s
>it's just a 6gb lora isn't it
Refiner anon was a hero
>your proofs aren't proofs and i won't believe you until you show something i like
Accurate but A*
>*graveyard silence treatment to a new trick*
What? When did this happen?
>i spent 50 hours curating the dataset but this config werks better than anything i tried before
Everyone has has one of these moments.
>yeah yeah this seems cool i'll test it (he never reported back)
kek
>it will never work on my [ui/rtx 750ti/easy scripts/1.44 mb storage raid]
Something something linux paged lion 8bit anon
>is this supposed to look good?
Accurate see A* but these two always came together. It was yet another troll enjoying himself in a busy general.
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>>8725389
bakerkeks your response?
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just use GLoRA for styles and LoKR for characters or concepts
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>>8725396
What if I want both?
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just bake
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just sub
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>>8725399
>>8725400
c-c-checked!!
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>>8725381
>I had to spend a lot of time scouring some sketchy site to find hires pics (not screencaps) from T-Rex studio but I doubt I'll get that lucky with any other hentai.
that must have been hell. I doubt even sadpanda has a collection for that.
However Milk factory's CG sets are everywhere and easy to get, like sadpanda and sukeibei.
But wait, maybe you don't need to bother with that at all honestly, because just prompting the artists or the series itself on noob is enough to roughly get the artstyle anyway, though it's really not quite the same and the existing loras do get the style better than just the prompt, it's just that they fuck up a lot.
for trex there's no danbooru tag, that's why a lora was seriously needed.
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>>8725332
>the problem with lora baking is that it's hard-to-start, easy to become decent, and ***extremely*** hard to get past that
Even this is a silly take, since how hard a Lora is to bake in the first place is extremely dependent on exactly what you are trying to bake. Trying to bake a niche but animestyle character? Likely not too hard if you can get a couple of images together.
Trying to bake a completely foreign concept? That's going to be a completely different story, with more effort and time to bake in the concept without frying the model.
While there are some things that carry over that you can learn through reasoning and experience, the "best" parameters are often very different depending on what dataset you have and what basemodel you are baking into.
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just kys :3
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>>8725407
I think is point was that it's very daunting for newfags and pushes many away but once they get past that learning curve it's actually fairly straightforward. Then difficulty spikes on the really complex things which require actually reading the research papers. Seems like a fairly basic take.
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>>8724804
I assume you trained for more than 350 steps.
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>>8725470
500 for that one.
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>>8725313
>film grain
"real" artists also love this one weird trick
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>>8725473
I must be doing something wrong with my dataset then. I changed the batch size to 1, but the result was really poor. How many images did you use?
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>>8725485
>I changed the batch size to 1
This is your problem. That config needs high vram or else you'll have to do tons of steps at BS 1. It's 100 images. If you must use BS 1 then use this one.
https://litter.catbox.moe/bz9ne707x5tkvaw7.toml
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>>8725487
Appreciated.
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>>8725186
POST IT!!!!
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>>>/g/106639341
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>>8725562
what the FUCK
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Damn, not only kurumuz but chinkmoot as well? That's crazy.
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>>8725562
Well, I guess that explains why I keep seeing insults being flung for the most innocuous of comments.
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>>8725562
>this is who is calling you a retard on the 4chinz
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>>8725565
seconding this, where is it anon
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>>8725615
uh... our response blackedbros? none of the BBC in this thread can compare
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His hair is White-coded.
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>>8725615
HOT BOX?!!
>>8725618
fake TBP
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>>8725619
he has the barbaric aura. he will destroy them, they will be lucky if they survive the kahl drogo style snu snu
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>>8725618
box?
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>>8725562
Fucking kek
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>>8725615
>>8725618
Fags
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>>8721392
Hello, I havent been proompting for about a year, whats the best stuff right now?
Is it still reforge + SDXL? Are there any must have extensions?
Is comfy still a pain to use?
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>>>/v/721144640
can local stop losing for one second ffs
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>>8725726
okay? who is this for?
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>>8725722
checked and kek'ed
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>>8725722
>whats the best stuff right now?
vpred models
>Is it still reforge + SDXL?
yes
>Are there any must have extensions?
aside from tag autocomplete, not really
>Is comfy still a pain to use?
yes
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>>8725729
It's to remind you that we will all serve google in the end. They always win.
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>>8725735
thank you
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>>8725699
die
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>>8725761
thats a man
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>furry and scat
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established characters with lots of sample images do fine, but are there any tips for keeping consistency on "OC" characters? some sort of memory token or something? reforge local
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>>8725783
Prompt as many of her features as you can when creating her and you should be fine. If you want more, use one particular style mix/lora for that character to make it look more like "her." You're never gonna get things like tattoos and such consistently though.
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>>8725783
You can keep the hair and body type at some degree but if your OC has a very particular hair tone/gradient/multicolor the only way to keep consistent is going to be with inpaint
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Is there a way to edit lora metadata? It would be nice to add comments to the lora after I've made it instead of at the beginning.
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>>8725789
https://lorainfo.tools/
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>>8725791
Yeah this was the place I remember, thank you. This should be in the OP.
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>>8725783
If you really care about consistency, just gen a few images with her than train a Lora. If she's made up of tags the model already understands, it can be a super weak one that's done in ten minutes.
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I JUST PROBLEMATIC CONTENT, WHO DO I CONTACT?!
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>>8725803
>>8725804
EXPOSED!
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>>8725808
gay
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>>8725809
its not yuri if they're inviting you in right?
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its nai
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>>8725808
Nice pussy. Box?
>>8725814
>me
They're looking at the mirror, anon.
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>>8725808
>gay
nice
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>>8725722
>Is comfy still a pain to use?
yes but you can use swarmui
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What happened to lllyasviel? did she get hired by nvidia? did she return to chingchong land after trump said something stupid? did k*rumuz have her assassinated?
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I know it's not for the thread for this but is there any secret places for cosplayers' loras?
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>>8725830
how would we know, lil' bub? this look like comiket to you?
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:skull: :skull:
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>>8725833
You guys just know for sure. I also didn't forget about the guy who said up there that there are hidden superior versions of some noob models, too.
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>>8725838
>I also didn't forget about the guy who said up there that there are hidden superior versions of some noob model
kekmao, bro is on some hefty dose of hopium
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>>8725838
Whoever told you that was telling you to merge the models yourself.
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merge yourself
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>>8725847
*unzips dick*
Spread 'em
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TBP
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only good vidgen ive seen
https://files.catbox.moe/jvtel7.mp4
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>>8725856
KEK
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nai fucking suck
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>>8725856
yeah fuck lolis, fuck 'em all
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I've started generating stuff so degenerate I've never even seen this in either /b/ or /d/. Not sure if it's because the content is so off-putting or if no one has thought to gen it. Any other anons who can relate?
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>>8725487
Oh, now I see why you suggested ΣΙΗ. It is far more faithful to the concept than the model it supposedly trained on.

Thanks again.

https://files.catbox.moe/i7iu76.png
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>>8725877
The most degenarate stuff I have done so far is pure bestiality but on the vanilla side of it so idk
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>>8725883
Yeah I'm not sure if I told you earlier but ΣΙΗ is the model to use for 3d/game CG. It's the best I've seen for capturing the look of the dataset while still having good colors and tag knowledge.
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>>8725877
proof?
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>>8725884
Scenario I'm genning right now is a femdom alien scientist who's forcing her human captives to have sex with her eldritch horror monster pets. Guess it's technically... assisted bestiality?
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>>8725891
>>8725893
Still want proof of this?
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>>8725893
It's just another flavor of tentacles bro
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>>8725886
Did you train directly on ΣΙΗ, or did you use noob?
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>>8725897
Never train on mixes it does weird things to the output.
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>>8725898
Such as?

Using the lora on a mix weakens its bad features faster than its good ones I feel, and you'd miss out on that.
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>>8725915
nta but I tried training on 1.0 2d custom once for fun and the lora was completely fried from the very first epoch
maybe that'd be specific to 1.0 2d but I don't really care to try on others when loras trained on the base model work fine on shitmixes
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>>8725925
always train on the base model has been the general advice as long as I can remember
the only exceptions I can think of are realism shitmixes, because base illu/nooob noob really suck at learning from photographs
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>>8725926
now make her sex a cute young boy
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>>8725915
>such as?
Very hard to explain. Anatomy can be weird, style is learned in a way that makes little sense (learns 80% of the style then takes a sharp left turn into something else), prompt A and B will work but prompt X will explode. It's just not worth it when you can just train on base.
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>>8725940
based
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>>8725926
Cute girl but this much detail on the abs is a little gay anonie
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>>8725580
star saphire box please?!
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>>8725786
>>8725787
>>8725794
thank you
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>>8726019
Another thing that's overlooked these days is hair. Old anime made characters unique through their crazy hairstyles rather than busy outfits like today's gachasluts. Luckily Danbooru is very good at that so make use of "hair intakes, hair between eyes, swept bangs, ahoge" and shit you'd otherwise ignore and you'll find that your character actually looks unique.
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don't
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>>8726048
>warning /d/
Why did you post this here? I'm not even trying to be mean, I'm just trying to figure out what was going through you mind when you typed and posted all this kek.
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>>8726052
this is /d/
>>>8632235
too?
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I clicked :(
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anything else than 1man, 1 girl, missionary, is /d/
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>>8726054
I'm not saying I don't like gaping, or tentacles, or stomach bulge, or even bestiality, I'm saying /d/ is against the rules. Since I don't mind I won't report but don't be surprised if someone else does and then you become a new thread schizo.
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>>8726058
>wai shinyslop
>wan
>/d/
you know he's kinda crossed the line of not being a schizo already, or it's likely a bait
none of this is desired here
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>>8726066
nothing beside blacked shit is desired here i suppose
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>>8726068
go black or white somewhere else
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blacked is based doe
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>>8726005
幼いカラダで悩殺センセーション

https://files.catbox.moe/tgo06v.png

Onomeshin signature is very strong though.
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>>8726079
I still remember when pony hashed this girl. Such dark times.
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>>8726086
I'm aware. I was one of the first to make a lora for Daiyousei. Illustrious and other models do not have this issue, so I'm glad. I love my big fairies.
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I am so fucking sick of stable diffusion, is any of the new stuff ready?
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yes, $25
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>>8726275
tired of what
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>>8726275
its not ready but it's new
https://civitai.com/models/1790792?modelVersionId=2203741
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>>8726315
That's the faggot scammer who keeps shitting out "finetunes" for every single model under the sun.
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>>8726341
yes but whatever he does to it, which is likely just a lora merge of some type, does improve its stability somewhat making it easier to use
i wouldnt recommend it if i didnt think using it was a good idea, at least for shitting out a couple of gens and deciding it too slow to be worth it
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https://files.catbox.moe/zvdxmv.png
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>>8726354
he did actual training this time, neta even gave him access to their dataset
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fantastic anatomy and prompt comprehension high quality (10/10) everyone move over nao
https://files.catbox.moe/hsa76a.png
>>8726363
good to know
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Idiot here, you can't extract any kind of metadata from jpeg or jpg, right?
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>>8726393
The stealth png extension saves the meta data in jpegs as well in the "comments" field. Of course, those get stripped most of the time.
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>>8725971
Sounds like something a tranny would say.
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I do not understand the appeal of straight shotacon.
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>>8726407
Sounds like you are a little faggot who didn't grow up surrounded by hot older women and had his balls drop when he had already graduated high school.
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>>8726409
Nah by the age of ~12 I was basically gigacoomer-tier, and I was dreaming about seeing my classmates' panties, also liked maybe late-teen girls, but that's it. I have never been attracted to hags.
Anyway, why not just gen a normal dude with a hag? Do you actually self-insert as the shota?
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That's why CatHag is based.
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>>8726407
I'm only okay with it when it's a JK(preferably a flattie at that) with the shota, which by and large has been completely pushed out of the genre.
I've got no interest in what you'll generally find of it now because I'm not remotely interested in cow-titted hags.
>100yenMoFA hasn't had a release in 5 years
I hate everything.
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>>8726415
I miss that lil nigga like you wouldn't believe.
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>>8726414
Good point, I never understood the appeal of shota unless you're a little kid yourself, or a hag.
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I'm doing some hucow / massive breast gens w/ illustrious.
Can an anon get a recc for a massive breast lora?
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>>8726461
/d/
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>>8726461
First off, use noobAI instead of illu.

Second, you don't need loras for basic concepts. https://litter.catbox.moe/uldkkxplf7v69hvu.png

Third, size stuff is /d/ not /h/, as is transformation
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>>8726492
that's a lot more than 10 inches
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>>8726492
it would be extremely painful
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>>8726492
>>8726495
>>8726500
samefag
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>>8726501
meds
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>>8726501
meds
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>>8726501
meds
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catfag is where?
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What caused it
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>>8726549
Where did your homegrowns show up?
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>>8726506
highest IQ ITT
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Do you guys know any website with loras listed with no restriction? Since civitai doesn't allow anything looking like loli...
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>>8726604
>do you guys know any unbased websites?
no we don't
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>>8726604
they all implement the same rules once they get big enough, after Civit it was the same with tensor.art
Soon enough it'll hit seaart.ai and shakker.air, not yet afaik
there's also civitaiarchive.com which claims to have an archive of the deleted stuff
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>>8726604
I mean, you might not be able to post loli content on civitai, but there are LoRAs of characters that are loli that don't have a block on generation of R-XXX content on them. If you avoid using loli style tags like flat chest, it won't trigger a block. Just let the LoRA do the work.
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truly the most oppressed class
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this guy is way ahead of the nightshadecucks https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/10000876
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Imagine not having at least 2 dedicated cunny styles mixes at this point
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>>8726403
Fuck, I hate that now every single pic has all the metadata stripped out becasue muh patreon bucks. I just want the damn style
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What Checkpoint should I train my loras on? I mainly use 102d custom
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>>8726656
>I just want the damn style
And I just want money. If you want a style then figure it out yourself like everyone else did.
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>>8726656
Why don't you ask for a box instead of sperging out at imaginary patreon grifters?
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>>8726638
Yes, but I was talking about style loras, not character loras. I should have specified it earlier :/
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>>8726664
Oldfags got their artists and tips and skills from sharing and communicating in those threads back when they weren't shit, and after getting what they wanted, kicked down the ladder and gaslighted retards into believing there are patreonfags watching every fucking catbox link posted.
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>>8726682
bro thinks everything is an allegory of the american economy :skull:
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>>8726682
>Oldfags got their artists and tips and skills from sharing and communicating in those threads back when they weren't shit
geg, sharing a few unknown tags? also everytime I shared some of my mixes, for a few posts later some n-word posted horrendous gens with it
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>>8726688
still feels better than a (you)
for the horrendous part, depends on whether it's a skill issue or terminally bad taste
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>>8726690
Yeah, I miss it. These days even if someone asks for box they do nothing with it. Probably where that thought of "they're just wanna steal it for their patreon" comes from.
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>>8726690
>still feels better than a (you)
not for me, in fact I always think they did (do) it just to get a reaction out of me
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>>8726692
>they do nothing with it. Probably where that thought of "they're just wanna steal it for their patreon" comes from.
there's like 2.5 images posted per day here now
this general is literally dead.
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>>8726692
>even if someone asks for box they do nothing with it
That you know of. I've started at least 2 new Patreons with mixes I've gotten from here. Just because people don't spam images doesn't mean they aren't thankful for the catboxes.
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>>8726682
>Oldfags got their artists and tips and skills from sharing
I'm a newfag here and this shit ain't that hard to figure out, you can find guides and tips elsewhere too. I still sometimes ask stupid questions and get decent answers here. That's more than I expected out of an ai nigger worthless jeet thread honestly.
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i stopped posting gens and boxes because of pedo hysteria
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any askers in the chat?
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/hgg/ worked for a short time but nowadays this general does much more harm than good. Content and posters are identical but the activity is split between two threads for no fucking reason.
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>>8726709
I get twice as many (you)'s on my images being able to post them in two threads though, so that's good.
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>>8726709
you want more scat spamming centralized?
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>>8726709
The activity isn't split, you shitpost starved n-words came here because you didn't get any response anymore on your shithole
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novel ai won by the way
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I just want maximum seethe
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>>8726688
>also everytime I shared some of my mixes, for a few posts later some n-word posted horrendous gens with it
This literally never happens though
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nothing ever happens
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>>8726682
Welcome to 4chan, unfortunately. We're in the era of "the decline" and all AI generals are at this stage. Good luck to you, anon.
>>8726721
Of course not. See the "gaslighting" part of anon's post.
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>>8726692
>These days even if someone asks for box they do nothing with it
When did anyone "do anything with it" back in the day anyway? A thank you was enough for people back then but nowadays you need to be jerked off by anon to feel needed?
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>>8726650
i've been staring at this thigh for a few minutes trying to understand what the fuck is going on
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how is futa not troon coded?
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>>8726733
https://www.frandroid.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/pam-the-office-they-re-the-same-picture-2.jpg
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>>8726730
Honestly a "thank you" is more than enough, and more than I usually get. It's just one of many things that kept the thread more alive.
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tfw using ai to learn how to prooompt better.
I will soon smell like literal poop.
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>>8726735
Box???
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waow...bbc...
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>>8726733
your underage ass wouldn't know but futa existed way, WAY before any troons/trannism ever existed (if we assume they exist, because they don't, trannies will never be a real woman but futa are real women within their fictional world)
you can't retroactively just say it's tranny shit just because a delusional cult claim it's made for them. They also claim everything ever is about them and I hope you're not retarded enough to just believe them.
also
>coded
using the language of your enemies really isn't smart to say the least.
nig.
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Chat, you are responding to stale baits again...
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I am Chad
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>>8726769
women can't have a penis, bucko. doesn't matter when or where or by whom they were dreamt of
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*delusional schizo babble*
What?
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>>8726769
Your entire argument hinges on
>but futa existed way, WAY before any troons/trannism ever existed
But you won't tell us when either first appeared. Regardless my point was that hermaphroditism IS trannism. It is the birth and original sin of trannism, but it seems I upset a futafag.
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>>8726769
Why, dude? It was about as low effort as baits go.

Since you brought it up, the main difference is in the olden days futa had a dick and pussy, they were an excuse to not draw a male cause some artists hate doing that; or a way to have lesbian sex with penetration. Since trannies took over the fetish they all have balls instead of pussy, and far more scenes are now futa on futa instead of futa on girl.
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>>8726794
>or a way to have lesbian sex with penetration
Yeah that's how I interpreted it when I watch bible black back in the day. He'd drawn all these hot girls but still wanted penetration rather than just tribadism so boom, cock. Still my question was honest, not bait. Two genitals is still a troon as far as I'm concerned. The current political movement used hermaphrodites to legitimize themselves as "intersex."
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>>8726797
>Two genitals is still a troon
When a guy has his dick chopped off to get a vagina made, they use the flesh from the penis to make said fake vag. There are no troons with both sets of genitals. The only people you will see that genuinely have both sets are people who were born with both as a birth defect. As opposed to the mental defect the people who mangle their own junk have.
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>>8726799
In the end it's a fetish, as long as it stays digital you only have to justify it to yourself. Some people fap to scat or snuff without a second though.
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>>8726799
That's what I'm getting at with "hermaphrodites." You have the futanaris like that but then you had genuine female appearing people with large breasts, wide hips, feminine skulls, but dick and balls. You'd also have the ones with functional pussies but no cervix or womb and testicles in their abdomens. These are the "intersex" the ones with the birth defects. However, troons used these people to claim you could be "woman trapped in a man's body" and so there was no mental illness but a real biological condition. Hence the whole thing is "troon-coded."
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new
>>8721640
>>8721640
>>8721640
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>>8722568
kek I really am only here doe.
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>>8726810
Are there still highlights in the other thread?
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>>8726811
yes
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>>8726797
>bible black
escalayer, angel blade, viper gts
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>>8726813
Then this place is still justified
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what has to be made so that the anons finally stopped talking to a
>what is the difference between /hgg/ and /hdg/?
>more tech speech here
>the same people in both
bot?
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>>8726817
What do you mean? I opened the thread and saw I got a (You) so I read it and posted. You would have done the same.
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>>8726766
box?
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>>8726816
Yeah I don't see the need for highlights since it breeds resentment. Picking one anon's pic for the OP is the better way to do it.
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>>8726820
Doubt anyone "sees the need" other than the fag posting them, but that won't make him stop.
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ngl this is kind of funny
>>8708922
>>8708934

>>8722508
>>8722509

>>8719043
>>8719034
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Funny funny funny funny, funny and cute.
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>got 6 yous
>brought cunny
wowzers
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very funny, anon. very cute
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only this is funny >>8708934
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>>8726904
Man that all looks terrible. Could have at least put up a painting or window or something. The store is nice though.
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>>8726917
That wall*
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>>8726930
Tilecoomer...
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>>8726904
I'm scared of the pink thing. I don't wanna know how or where it would fit.
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>>8726934
She's so poor she'd rather spender her money on fancy sex toys instead of some nice wallpaper. Cheaper than air jordans I guess.
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>>8726917
Drove me crazy. Does putting up a painting or window prevent the walls from becoming cosmic horror? I tried fixing and fixing it but I kept getting worse results. Until I finally just had to fix what I could in GIMP
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>>8726960
Just prompt some shit for the room. Even lamp goes a long way. Do painting, potted plant, window, curtains, night, starry sky, cumulonimbus cloud and then you'll have a nice bedroom.
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>>8726960
backrooms looking ahh
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>>8726960
If you need to care about backgrounds then your image is not fap worthy to begin with.
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>>8726966
Well, it looked like this at the start. Upscaling it was what turned it into f-ed up. Sorry for taking so many image slots but thread is almost dead anyway and learning what I'm doing wrong is helpful.
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ayo? ass to mouth?
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p-please sir.. the cfg.. c-can you spare just.. a little? *cough* j-just a smidge..
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>>8726974
>>8726977
very nice
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>>8726977
ayuss tuh ayuss
>>8726978
looks fine to me
>>8726982
can't believe I still haven't done anal beads with my wife yet
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>>8726985
you're missing out bro
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I fucking hate women
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>>8727001
Agree, fuck women
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>>8727003
DARK CHOCCY
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>>8727001
faggot
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>>8727003
zesty ass nigga
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>>8727013
nah that's you
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>>8727030
:'(
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why is it so shiny?
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I wish I was as good as jap sloppers
>https://x.com/zhongjoji00000/status/1969748452172275919
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>>8727090
waow..........
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>>8727090
there is no way in hell that is an AI
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Do you guys also get spammed by this guy requesting fushigi yuugi art? I swear this guy makes an account, spams requests, gets banned, and does it again the next month.
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>>8727090
Temu noodle-kun..
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>>8727090
>25k followers for sd1.5 slop
weird
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>>8727097
qrd
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>>8727099
No no, it's not weird, a bunch of people follow and like his slop that means he is goated with the sauce
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>>8727099
Nips always have an eye of aesthetics. You can't take that away from him but yeah, 1girl, standing, pantyshot. kek.
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>>8727101
I think it's only working on absolute pure volume
the dude has 1637 image posts in I don't even know how short of a period in time.
still weird that anyone would actually willingly interact with the shit though. Even if I like the content I'd refuse to follow that account just because it would completely flood my feed and bury everyone else I follow.
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>>8727108
B-but big number means better b-bwo...
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>>8727110
imagine if ay*kon could learn this power
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Catfag-chan..
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>>8727100
A guy sends you a message in pixiv.

"ふしぎ遊戯の本郷唯をリクエストします。シチュエーションは任せます"

So far he has sent me 5 of them.
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>>8727122
>le line... goes le UP!!
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>>8727137
imo it's interesting that shortly after 2020 there's an increase in growth rate, and past 2022 danbooru doubled its post count in just 3.5 years
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bro is a data analyst :skull: :skull:
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>>>/b/940139350
incredible
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>>8727122
and this is a site that bans fully ai-generated content (though still keeps stuff like shexyo's slop)
sites like rule34 probably have a practically vertical exponent
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>>8727148
They also allow western furfag/troon shit, but we don't have many other options.
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>>8726960
You should try and find out what's causing it, that's not normal.
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You have no right to criticize Japanese people. Look at /h/. Western-style Black content is everywhere. At least that Japanese guy is consistent and doesn’t post those low-rated ones to his followers.
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>>8727141
Nobody knew about Danbooru, but thanks to AI it became known even to people who weren't interested.
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>>8727090
>93 retwets but 1.7k likes
That shit has to be botted
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>>8727183
That would explain an increase in usage/visits, but that's post count we're talking about. People aren't going to draw and upload to Danbooru more just because they found out their AI models used it as training data.
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>>8727188
>draw and upload
Nah, but just uploading though? Could be genners uploading more and more to danbooru hoping it'll make future models better
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So, what's the point of having two threads if both go to page 10 before getting anywhere close to the image cap and both are infested by the same tired schizos?
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>>8727267
I have asked the same question four times over /hgg/'s lifespan. Most recently got strawmanned into a bot >>8726817

If I were to guess, some people enjoy the cope of "at least our thread is not as bad as /hdg/" even if both are the same.
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>>8727267
at least this thread is better than /hdg/
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>>8727267
initial point was to escape shitposters and spam, now it's just inertia
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>>8727269
>I have asked the same question FOUR (4) times
>got strawmanned into a bot
fucking kek
also go back and never look here again, don't turn this thread into /hdg/
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Case in point.
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can anyone give me a good nai art style so i can start my patreon please? just looking for a little money on the side
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>get break node for comfy
>not only break does nothing but now random {|}prompts no longer seem to work
>no info about this available
wow I hate everything about this.
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>>8727363
I don't use comfy and think it's a shit awful garbage UI but wasn't the comfy way of doing "break" just inlining another prompt noodle or something like that?
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>>8727366
Yes, and it's shit, but there's custom nodes that just gives comfy the BREAK function and many other features. But I tried 2 such custom nodes and none of them seems to support random prompt the way the core comfy can.
And it's hard to know if it's because the syntax changed or there's more limitation or if I should use A1111 style syntax.

I could go with proper wildcard set up instead but man
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>>8727363
>>8727366
>>8727369
just put <break>
better yet, use swarm
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>>8727373
Better yet, stop pretending like you need to break up your prompt.
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What do you need BREAK for in 2025 again?
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>>8727378
If you're genning on local there isn't a way to separate any of your prompt like how you can do with more SOTA models such as Novel AI v4.5.
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>>8727381
There is no purpose to that separation other than perhaps making it easier to read, for which you can just use newlines.
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>>8727382
People have been tricked into thinking there is some type of segmentation when including in their prompts. You can't really blame them when the majority of local users just copy prompts from others on Civitai.
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>>8727381
that's not remotely close to what it does or what it gets used for.
>>8727378
resetting the input register priority is useful for specific things.
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>>8727385
>is useful for specific things.
like what
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>>8727386
it's an easy way of wrangling dealing with quality tags and/or a bunch of aesthetic tags without fucking up priority of your actual prompt.
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>>8727385
>>8727386
This is an old meme, but it's actually worth explaining what break does for the newfags and then putting it in the FAQ.
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>>8727267
Gay. Dicks are touching.
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>>8727397
>it's an easy way of wrangling dealing with quality tags and/or a bunch of aesthetic tags without fucking up priority of your actual prompt.
Ok but does it actually do something noticeable.
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>>8727386
nta but it's pretty niche. I don't know whether it's because of v-pred, or noob itself, but the effect is much weaker than it was on on Pony or 1.5 models. I often find it barely noticeable.

Tags near the start of the prompt are stronger than tags near the end of it, a clean gradient, and the difference is greater the longer your prompt is. Now, a single BREAK splits your prompt in half, meaning the strength of this effect is halved but you get to have two "starts" and "ends". I've seen people use it to keep both their artist mix and pose/composition prompts up front, because character tags are usually strong enough even in the back of a long prompt.

Also, very long prompts have to be split because the SDXL text encoder can only work in chunks of 75 tokens. So your UI of choice will insert a BREAK without telling you if you exceed the limit.
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>>8727398
>but it's actually worth explaining what break does
All it does is reset the input register. Literally. That's it. If you do
<tag1>, <tag2>, <tag3> BREAK <tag4>, <tag5>, <tag6>
All that BREAK is doing is resetting the register and having <tag1> and <tag4> operate at the same weight/priority as eachother, along with <tag2> with <tag4> and <tag3> with <tag5>. The reason this does anything at all is that tag order matters in inference. Tags that appear first have a higher priority/weight than tags that appear last. The usefulness of this could be argued to be subjective and mostly comes down to "do your own X/Y tests you fucking retard" on if you want to be doing it or not.

Oh there's also a super niche scenario where if you're conscious of it you can use it to prevent splitting up tokens from a tag if it were to go over 75 tokens, since it resets the register after 75 regardless.
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>>8727401
Balls not touching = not gay
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>>8727412
>"do your own X/Y tests you fucking retard"
My point was that the purpose of a general is to avoid every single individual doing this tedious work since we can pool our experiences together. Still, thanks for the explanation. Hopefully we can just point people to the FAQ when the trolls show up asking this question for the 90th time.
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I've generated 1.15TB of slop. I wish there was a machine that would sort it for me, deleting all the trash
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>>8727417
it's an "advanced prompting technique" that isn't going to have a solid yes/no answer.
>>8727408
>Ok but does it actually do something noticeable.
If you're using random flavor of the week shitmix that goes "nooooo don't use quality tags uhh ummm just don't!" ? probably not, unless you're spamming a ton of artist/aesthetic tags, in which case using it to separate those from your actual prompt may in fact help coherency to a degree(unless they take up exactly 75 tokens in which case it won't matter it'll be resetting the register anyway).
again though, just do your own fucking testing. It's not like it takes that long to set up x/y and compare on fixed seeds.
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>>8727429
You don't think >>8727409
>>8727412 suffice as good answers to that question? Seems like a good simple explanation and gives the prompter an idea of how they should use it.
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>>8727382
there is, to avoid tags getting split in chunks but nobody cares, i think it got taken care of by UIs anyway
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>>8727433
it's contextual and people are shits that don't even like agreeing to disagree.
And I'm not saying that the explanations don't work, they do since that's exactly what the function is. But whether someone should use it or not can only be answered by their own testing because people try and use the absolute dumbest fucking shit.
Dropping the "neutral" façade; In a perfect world using a base model, setting your prompt up as
<quality tags> BREAK <prompt>
is generally going to be ideal. If you're doing a lot of heavy in-model artist aesthetic mixing then
<quality tags> BREAK <artist/aesthetic tags> BREAK <prompt>
is probably going to be ideal.
Using BREAK to reset the register prevents the dumbass quality tags from taking highest priority and tainting everything into shit and bleeding out the style. And resetting after spamming aesthetic tags can bring it back in and prevent them from drowning out your actual prompt. It can also help prevent your actual prompt from being split by the 75 token limit arbitrarily so you don't end up with something retarded like "table" as a high priority tag.

but again. this can all be argued as subjective. doing your own testing and finding out what works best is the real way to go about this because what might be correct can change from one situation to another and there isn't a possible way to do a write-up that can actually point out exactly when or where these situations might be.
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prompting is placebo anyways
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>>8727456
>leave prompt blank other than loras
>get a bunch of flatties in microbikinis
you know, you might be on to something here.
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can we get uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh more dp pics?????
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>>8727499
Regular DP, DAP or DPP?
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>>8727499
If you are talking about vaginal + anal, the last one I did was a cunny one so have this one instead
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>>8727503
i have no idea what any of those other two are
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>>8727507
Double Anal Penetration
Double Pussy Penetration
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>>8727510
sounds like a lot
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>>8727511
DAP is pretty much normie porn tier nowadays.
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>>8727503
>>8727510
I would like a combo platter of DAP and DPP please
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I'm trying to prompt a futanari and a female but Reforge keeps insisting on giving them both dicks. Any special tag or negative to avoid this? Inpaint barely helps.
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>>8727515
futa_with_female, and maybe mention a pussy somewhere, btw /d/ickgirl stuff goes to /d/
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>>8727515
try futa on female tag
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>>8727515
https://danbooru.donmai.us/wiki_pages/futa_with_female
But futa sucks on local, I've had less issues on novel ai unironically (no this isn't a shitpost, I use both but futa x female really sucks on local for that exact reason)
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>>8727457
Nice.
>>8727498
Not the same if you can't see her thighs in the shot.
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>>8727518
Works fine for me, the only issue is getting the correct character to have a penis.
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>>8727516
I'm using futa with female but since they're both clothed I can't use the second tag. I wish there were a Reforge tutorial to fix images with inpaint I actually got a couple of usable ones but since they both have dicks it's worthless to me.
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>>8727520
>the only issue is getting the correct character to have a penis.
Which is the single most important part of doing futa x female hence me saying fuck it and just opting for NAI
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>>8727521
Read the fucking OP
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is there a particular reason why we can't do character 1: blah blah blah, character 2: blah blah blah on Reforge?
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>>8727525
Novel AI only feature unfortunately. If you want that you have to manually inpaint everything to fix it or fumble around with Forge Couple
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>>8727527
>If you want that you have to manually inpaint everything to fix it
I'm willing to try this option. I'm doing inpaint over a potential image but it's still asking for tags. I only write what I want on THAT particular area I want to fix, right? Not the entire thing I used to prompt the first image?
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>>8727528
>I only write what I want on THAT particular area I want to fix, right?
Correct.
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>>8727528
>I only write what I want on THAT particular area I want to fix, right? Not the entire thing I used to prompt the first image?
Depends on your inpaint mode, in case you are doig "only masked", you want to prompt only for the things you are painting over, if you are doing "whole picture", you can keep the entire prompt. Generally, you want to use the first option.
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>>8727529
>>8727530
thank you. I'll also check out Forge Couple and see if I can get it working since it sounds extremely helpful
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>>8727533
People also recommend regional prompter but I honestly have no clue if that is better or worse than forge couple at this point
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what's the best model for someone that wants to cum so hard they go retarded?
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>>8727545
what kind of question is this
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>>8727480
>put 1girl in negatives, remove everything from positives
>get a bunch of 1girls
>captcha: WHH0A
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>>8727546
sorry let me rephrase:
what's the most versatile model right now for someone that isn't really interested in one particular style, and simply wants to mess with very extreme poses like in yoga or combat sports where you have a lot of foreshortening and various composition shifts?
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I haven't touched anything in over a year.
Is reforge still the way to go? Do I use the newest one or the commit from the OP?
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>>8727506
That's interesting. You obviously used disembodied hands and penis, but how did you get it to use the same ghostly color for them? You drew and painted it yourself?
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>>8727536
couple is better
regional is just more involved photobashing
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>like pretty much everything about an artist but prompting him shits up gens with desaturated sepia
i cant sneed
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Had given up on good female pov, only to get pic while trying to gen something completely different. There are danbooru tags for more specific scenes, but they don't have many images. Anyone had any luck making anything specific from this angle?
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>have a /d/ futa question
>/d/ seems like the wrong place to ask, i'll ask /h/
>have a /y/ yuri question
>/y/ seems like the wrong place to ask, i'll ask /h/
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>/y/
>yuri
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>>8727577
sorry my bad, cant keep track of all the fag boards on this site
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Do lower resolution images incur more errors? I'm trying to do 512x512 to try something out and holy shit it's just doing whatever it feels like.
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>>8727583
Depends on the model, I'm assuming you are using SDXL, which was trained at 1024x1024 and will fuck up badly when going at a quarter of the resolution like you are doing.
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>>8727558
Pure prompt and inpaint as always
>https://files.catbox.moe/99yug1.png
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>>8727585
he said half not quarter retard
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Are we really pretending to not know grade school geometry for the sake of trolling?
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>>8727586
I have resorted to building assets and environments on UE5 for my scenes. I assume you used something similar for your pool there, or did you draw it? Trying to keep consistent tiles and wall features is such a hassle, but I hate seeing a wall "empty".

Really nice effect with the hair there.
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>>8727607
Sorry to be like this but it's just pure prompt again
>https://files.catbox.moe/h53dgh.png
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>>8727613
Hahaha, in my case it either has the character right in your face or a nonsensical jumbled mess of a background.


I am envious. Still, glad to see someone is being smiled upon by the Chaos RNGods, for once.
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>>8517604
i once again request box
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>>8727457
box?
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>>8727614
Perhaps you just need to train your prompt-fu a little more, "detailed background" really do make a difference when trying to get something nice and somehow coherent
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>>8727551
I've been doing a lot of downward dog lately but I'd argue NAI is best for composition. You can do it on local with controlnet though but you'll need a reference pic.
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>>8727626
I thought that tag was placebo.
>>8727614
A lot of the issues you're having are model based. Use 102d or 291h.
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>>8727627
yeah i figured NAI was pretty good but i'm doing most stuff locally. i was mainly aiming to find a model that can do extreme poses well with just prompt adherence alone, but i guess i could mess with painting/sketching poses in krita and feeding that to the control layer. i looked into lumina a bit but it seems to be a wip still.
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>>8727572
>triple eyebrows
I hated this back on pony.
>female pov
I made picrel but it was rng.
https://files.catbox.moe/lwk3tu.png
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>>8727629
>I thought that tag was placebo
It is not, I have thoroughly tested that tag, including it along with other background related tags really improve the background
>>8724343 is my most recent example of this
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>>8727629
>I thought that tag was placebo.
E621 has a lot of "detailed" tags that work just fine, including that one
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>>8727634
Base weight? Done after break? Used scenery tag? I need more details here. I'll go test it in a bit but still.
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>>8727636
Well that was my point. I went to e621, looked through the stuff tagged as "detailed background" chuckled, and left. I guess I should have done some x/y grids too.
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>>8727427
That's why I turned off auto save and only save successful gens I like into specific folders.
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>>8727637
No, no and no, here is the catbox for base gen
>https://files.catbox.moe/lf9vb4.png
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>>8727638
Don't make the same mistake as oecuckie, the model will generalize that into something better because of the danbooru data
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>>8727639
catbox?
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>>8727642
Warning, very schizo prompt with lots of (). I feel like it helps my gens, but I'm too lazy to delete them all to actually check https://files.catbox.moe/ehezz3.png.
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>>8727647
Huh. Thanks.
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https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?tags=sakura_m_fsn&z=1
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?tags=poriuretan+&z=5
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?tags=shinjiro+&z=5

any similar artists?
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>>8727514
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>>8727656
wow box please
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>>8727652
just add the tags "netorare" "shota" "dark skin" and it will default to that style
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>>8727661
doesnt work
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>>8727656
based contrast enjoyer
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>>8727656
>>8727674
>>8727003
choco karin>gray karin
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Forge Couple question: if I want the characters to interact with each other should I overlap the boxes in advanced mode? or will having their edges touching each other like the sample image be enough? ie. hand over shoulder
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Do you guys know of character lora creators that put several characters into a single lora? I've been looking through the ranks and only found 1 that does it well.
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>>8727693
No need to overlap as far as I know. You could also make a base image and then fuck around with img2img perhaps?
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>>8727698
There was an anon that did that here but idk how well it worked or if he was exaggerating about this success. It's typically a bad idea but apparently it's easier to do on noob than it was on pony.
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>>8727699
I could try that, but how would I create the base image? Some free online 3D poser?
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>>8727702
Bro just use the tags for it
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>>8727702
Once again, pure prompt.
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>>8727703
Catbox? Not really for the style but for the composition. Would solo focus be enough to make the girl take up most of the image? I don't get why I can't get this composition.
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>>8727700
The model I use can do 2 or even 3 girls pretty well with just the base prompt and a lora, so I was hoping for more creators. Oh well.
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>>8727710
satoko boobs are too small....
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>>8727586
Well, I'll be damned. That artist combo is pretty nice.
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>>8727656
very based
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>>8727761
I don't know, that latent noise skin almost looks worse than birdschzo's style.
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>>8727763
it's a lowres gen, idk what you expected
weird he didn't upscale it though
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>>8727763
>>8727764
I was just running quick and dirty tests with the prompts.

Not a fan of not posting anything when making a post, so I posted what I got from running them.
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>>8727708
it's nai (non shitpost) and the composition is mostly a side effect of the vibe transfer I used and some cropping. I've had some success with tags like close-up, solo focus, female focus, etc. and using tags like partially out of frame, lower body, etc for the dude.
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>>8727768
Yeah close-up is nice but sometimes it does cut-in kek, which is good but not what I was trying to do. I'll give it a try to day if my waifu wants to fuck in that position tonight.
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>>8727710
a-anon i think your adetailer turned boobtoko into rena
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I have a slightly stupid issue. I was using Reforge and everything was working fine. I installed Forge Couple but now the user interface is all misaligned. How do I correct this?
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>>8727819
nvm fixed it, just got the files from the reforge github as a zip, extracted them into the Reforge folder and the UI is aligned now and everything seems to be working fine again
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>>8727806
Oh fuck, how did I miss the hair!? Lolis in cow-print slingshots fucked my checks, I guess.
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this is how we end racism
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>>8727819
reminder >>8713571
the regular forge couple apparently leaks prompts all over the place on reforge
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>>8727845
Make sure to take note of which one adetailer detects and use the SEP command.
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>>8727656
if that's local I would really like to know how you did it
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>>8727871
I'm sure you could crop the pics, throw them into tagger and see the tags. 2 boys, double anal/vaginal, sitting on person, double v/heart hands. Doesn't seem that crazy of a prompt.
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>>8727873
That's what I've been doing for over 2 weeks on noob, and it just has no concept of stretching pussies or buttholes like this in those particular situations, sometimes it can manage but it's very rare in my (very little) experience
At least no without inpaiting or using adetailer I'm guessing, but that's 2 things I don't know how to do yet (but I would really prefer if the model could just do it on it's own)
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>>8727851
If only we could show niggers, jeets, jews and the other that we want to do is be at peace with them and fuck their (sometime) beautiful women
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>>8727877
yes, but real life is unfortunately complicated...
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>>8727884
Sadly :(
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>>8727012
wish it was blacked...
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Man, some western artists have nice ideas and compositions but I feel like they don't translate too well into anime styles with "normal" proportions
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>>8727875
Fitting the dicks inside is the easy part, just put more emphasis on double_vaginal or double_anal, the hard part is convincing the model that there should be two guys instead of one guy with two dicks, especialy since it hates hiding any part of the girl behind another person unless it's very specific tags like mating_press.
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>>8727871
<https://files.catbox.moe/z6t83a.png>
<https://files.catbox.moe/xhfnzv.png>
First one had to be inpainted to make the guy appear.
Stuff like plump_labia and big_anus can help by making the genitals bigger thus allowing more space to fit the dicks.
In general, DAP and DPP have pretty rigid composition that is hard to change with prompts alone.
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I'm new to training loras! Whats the easiest way to remove sfx from a dataset? I'm working with digital doujin panels! I'm trying out iopaint with what i have right now
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>>8728037
I assume this is about controlnet or img2img, it really depends on source and destination artist. There's all kinds of bodytypes on both sides.
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>>8728062
Literally inpaint them away.
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>>8728064
Yeah, I was talking about using them as controlnet reference
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>>8728067
I mean some artists literally just trace photographs. Including guys like rustle, or tsukasa jun, not just /aco/ ones. And there's a bunch of chibi-adjacent ones on both sides too.
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fuck off
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>>8728094
i wish this was futa
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>>8726974
>>8726977
Wish I had the patience to do this type of inpainting before-after. It really does turn even mediocre gens into a really nice set.
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is this the thread schizo trying out new stuff?
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>>8728046
right, that's very annoying. There's loras for this, but for illu only which makes no sense since it's noob that's better for this type of uh.. content. Honestly I'm thinking of learning how to make Loras mainly to fix this specific issue.

>>8728049
thanks!
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>workflow just doesn't load
oh I love comfy so much.
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>>8728094
Nice. I need to make more freckled girls.
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How do people bake with 8 or 16 dim? Anything below 32 gives me awful hands and I honestly prefer 48 or even more. Is it just style dependent?
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>>8728250
Stop training the TE
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>>8728253
I'm not
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>>8728254
*training TE
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>>8728250
I have not seen this correlation between hand quality and dim size, even with dim 4 styles.
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>>8728250
you don't need to bake all your loras half to death
anything simple only needs 8dim
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Bakers, I have a request
>https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?tags=christian_young&z=1
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>>8728296
>young
take it to /b/
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>>8728296
Here, no need to train a lora.
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Bakers don't post their bakes here anymore anyway :(
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>>8728306
He's christian so it's fine.
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>>8728307
get fucking doxxed idiot
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>>8728296
Do you want it with or without the microsoft paint (software)?
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>>8728250
Do you test every epoch? This type of weirdness is something I noticed when I started saving every 20 steps and testing those. Some epochs end up fine while others have monstrosities for no apparent reason, regardless of step count.
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>>8728312
adding the MS interface on post would be dead easy so bake it with it just to see how it goes lol
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>>8728309
Why wife's tits are for my eyes only.
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>>8728319
Cool, are you going to crop every single butiful painterly landscape picture this guy uploaded or are you hoping that someone in the /h/ thread will do it for you and tag it before baking a lora for your enjoyment?
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>>8728322
yes
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>>8728322
"post your dataset" is a banishing spell on /h/ for a reason anon.
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>>8728322
He said bake to it with the menu, anonie
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is the catbox extension not working for anyone else? I can look at metadata but pics don't display.
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>>8728332
>I can look at metadata but pics don't display.
same here
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>>8728332
Same.If there is no "embed" option, it just doesn't show up.
https://files.catbox.moe/fo6lxw.png
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>>8728334
Oh wait I clicked on the tiny image and now it displays when I hover. I think the guy changed it because poeople were seething about being "forced" to see pics in catbox.
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>>8728316
I usually save and test the last five, but I train with annealing schedule and no restarts, so there aren't any huge differences.
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>>8728094
Still gooning to this pic. It hits just right for me for some reason.
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which shitmix has the best Lora compatibility overall? Apparently some of them are meant for this purpose? However when you call that mix "NTR mix" then I don't really want to use it..

As much as I love noob, I'm starting to hate how bad it handle illu's loras and noob doesn't have enough loras yet (and they aren't even that good most of the time)
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>>8728356
What loras are you even looking for? Illu loras aren't supposed to work on noob, they only kinda work and will give you some splotchiness with gray colors.
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>>8728356
90% of the time there's no difference between inbuilt artist tags and loras on 102d it just swallows all details, good and bad. Make of that what you will
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>>8728356
"lora compotibility" means they merge in bits of pony. If you use loras meant fir illu/noob you get better compatibility the weaker the merge is. Hence the recommended checkpoints in the OP, or better base noob itself.
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>>8728361
Because 102d's mixed-in loras are already stronger than whatever you are adding on top.
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>>8728365
it's a lie anyway
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Open to suggestions but 102d custom is the merge closest to base noob that I know of.
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>>8728369
Just use base noob if you are going to use loras for the artsyle anyway
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>>8728369
>merge closest to base noob
ChromaYume v1 and manticore v4
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>>8728379
>manticore v4
nigga invoking metal gear up in this mf
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>>8728359
Poses and character loras, mainly, the style I can do with artist tags alone

>>8728361
>>8728362
I see.. I'll give 102 another try (though I don't know if it'll work I like going for 2D art with realism mixed in, but as long as fetish lora works..), I found 291h really fucking good but most lora I used on it was hit and miss.
and I'll give base noob another try too, I always liked it too but sometimes it goes insane, so I have the colorfixed mix as well.
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>>8728379
chromayume might as well be base noob, it doesn't improve anything
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>>8728386
yes, but it is a merge and it is the closest to base noob
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>>8728390
yeah...
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the closest thing to base noob is the sekrit v29+1.0 shitmix made by me back in january
recipe: https://files.catbox.moe/yrqwdr.png
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Been in a super simple flat(ish) anime style lately
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>>8728492
I don't think it counts as a shitmix f it's not mixing in shit, just two adjacent versions of the base model.
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i hate anime screencap!!!
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>>8728496
this is flat >>>/e/3005034
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>>8728500
>flat
You spelled boring wrong
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>>8728492
>made by me back in january
I KNEEL. sekrit 291 + silly greek letter merge is possibly the longest I've ever used a model without getting the itch to find another one 'just because'.
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>>8728492
cute hanabi, I should do more of her it's been a while
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After detailer makes the faces of my generations look really nice when it works but half the time it fucks everything up and generates monsters with double faces or all kind or abominations. ALL face detailers included in reForge do this, what obscure setting I'm supposed to move to avoid this? Or should I be using a detailer model not included in reForge?

It happens with or without hires.fix and with or without a refiner. Probably Forge Couple has something to do with this but I NEED Forge couple.

Please halp.
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>>8728497
it's a shitmix because you aren't guaranteed to get a usable model by merging two adjacent checkpoints because the weights themselves aren't linear and there's no gradient descent involved to help guiding the model
think of some function f(x, w) = x * w^2 where x is input and w is a weight
if f_1(x) = f(x, 0) and f_2(x) = f(x, 10), where w_1 = 0 and w_2 = 10 then
f_12(x) = f(x, (w_1 + w_2) / 2) = f(x, 5)
if f_1 is good for features X, f_2 is good for features Y, then f_12 will be good at neither because:
f_1(x) always outputs 0 no regardless of the input which may or may not be good for some things
f_2(x) outputs x * 10^2 = x * 100
f_12(x) outputs x * 5^2 = x * 25 which is not necessarily a good middle point between the two (nor is the result linearly scales with w, despite merging using 0.5 ratio (just mean), the good Y features are supposed to be 4 times larger than what we are getting)
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>>8728534
>what obscure setting I'm supposed to move to avoid this?
...denoise?
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>>8728492
That model is such incredibly hot garbage I wish you'd people would stop shilling it. The backgrounds are absolutely atrocious, it shits all over most loras, it's telling that you did white background for that pic. Whatever slight style penalties 102d has compared to this are greatly overshadowed by everything else it gets wrong.
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>>8728538
>muh backgrounds
Good morning saar
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>>8728535
How could you possibly determine what model outputs "good" pics by math alone? It would be better to actually look at the pics and compare them, no?
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>>8728539
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i like r3mix
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>i like to gen white rectangles
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>>8728492
it's not that close to 1.0 but it is solid
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I like kanikananika lora and hope bro delivers more quality stuff in the future!!
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>>8728555
I've never seen anybody using it besides me so I'm assuming you are being ironic.
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>>8728538
>The backgrounds are absolutely atrocious
the issue of skill, it isn't worse than 102d at least
>slight style penalties 102d has
it literally turns everything into grey blurry slop
>>8728542
i have no idea what are you trying to ask about
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>>8728558
Maybe you're using a different 102d and not custom? Or maybe you're comparing it to ones that boost contrast over base noob? Doesn't make sense otherwise.
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>>8728557
I like smol booba and erotic lower body, so this whole posting thing... it's just not meant to be.
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>>8728558
This response is why I don't take advice from anons here.
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>>8728559
you are probably biased towards blurry styles and bright content and don't find this bias annoying, that's much more likely
yes i've used 102d custom (pic is 1.0+29 though)
>>8728561
so what triggered you this time?
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using anything but wai or prefect illustrious just makes you look like a pretentious retard
there is a reason those are the most popular models
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>>8728564
This, a billion Indians can't be all wrong.
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>>8728564
I also listen to J.S.Bach instead of negroes yapping in microphone, sue me!
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>>8728537

There is not denoise option on the Adetailer section of reForge.
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>>8728567
>J.S.Bach
Wow dude you are so cultured and sophisticated, I bet you are the kind of music geek that even listens to Mozart or Beethoven.
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>>8728570
I don't, just Bach!!
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Mozart and Beethoven are very good. The music is great, but it's 20% of the way from Bach to negroes yapping.
Then Chopin is like 50% of the way.
Have to keep it pure...
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>>8728569
Yes there is, anon. Look again. It's under inpainting.
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>>8728534
ditch adetailer, learn to manually inpaint
>b-but
no, just do it
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>>8728582
this is a repost
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>>8728564
wai is popular by a mere chance
there is a fuckload of models that could took its place but people just use whatever the guide recommends
same reason normies don't use linux, lmao
any sane person with a sense of taste will quit this bullshit hobby instantly because of this
anything v3, aom, anylora, autism, illu, etc etc they all spread by a word of mouth but for some reason no one ever attempted to unironically recommend something more or less neutral like base noob, base pony, base nai1
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>>8728585
Damn I even checked the archive to see if I had already posted it before.
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>>8728588
Maybe I'm remembering something similar to it instead but I remember this picture.
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>>8728587
People did recommend base pony, but it's literally the same as 102d/wai vs base noob now. Autism was just easier to use. Plus we had that "don't shit where you eat" mentality so no one would ever criticize autism, only base pony which scared newfags away. Normalfags don't use linux for the same reason, too hard.
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>>8728589
It's definitely possible, I had made a bunch of similar pics and probably posted one already.
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>>8728575
Oh, fug. You were right.

>>8728576
What are the advantages of it?

Also, is UncannyValley 3d VPRED v1 the best model for semi-realistic lewd anime girls? I have tried a couple of photo-realistic models but they don't generate utterly perfect faces and bodies like UV. But I don't test them much, maybe I just need to prompt better.
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>>8728587
There's more to it than that. Most of the popularity on Civitai comes from it being enabled for online gen, and they changed the rules for that after WAI was already established. It's very difficult now to get your checkpoint enabled for online gen.
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>>8728602
>What are the advantages of it?
more and better control over the parts you want to change and no, it's not like you have to entirely learn a new thing, most of the time you can use the same prompt and settings you used for your base image while inpainting
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>>8728587
>illu
illu shitmixes*
i've never used one but whatever
>>8728591
>People did recommend base pony
no they fucking didn't, especially early on, they defended autism like it was a godsend child, putting a knife to a throat of anyone who dared to unironically criticize it
>Autism was just easier to use
it isn't easier to use, it's just acoslopped and outputs "good" anatomy by default (it produces outputs without any signs of variety, similar to how 102d, greek letter slop, flux.1 dev-schnell and so on do it when compared to base models)
>>8728603
that shouldn't matter all that much, all you need to do is to get your shitmix into early guides
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>>8728605
Anon I don't understand, you basically repeated my comment back to me. There were people who recommended base pony, just like there were a few that recommend base noob. However most people stuck to the shitmix. 102d or 291h shilling isn't as intense as it was with autism, but that was because autism was all local had at the time which was decent and could somewhat compete with NAI. Otherwise back to fluffyrock and 1000 loras.
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>tfw I shared on this same thread a big grid comparing noob and it's mixes on various settings and resolutions just for to be complete ignored and forgotten to the point we have the same exact """discussions"" every now and then
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nobody cares
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>>8728607
You mean the one with very awa?
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>>8728606
>There were people who recommended base pony
no one recommended pony over autism back then, anon
well if you don't count that one maybe sensible person who is now known as oekakischizo
>[autism] could somewhat compete with NAI
kek, lmao even
>>8728607
literally nobody cares about your 100500 column grids
if you are comparing the variety you must compare the outputs on many seeds
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Why is xhe talking about xerself? Promoting avatarfags should be against the rules.
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struck a nerve?
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I'm talking to myself
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i'm just glad arti bloomed into noob
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i'm just glad that novelai continues to innovate the tech more than anyone else
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everyone is saying this
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Hey anyone know what going on with catbox? My images doesn't show, but are there after I reach page 96, then nothing on page 97 and onward
https://files.catbox.moe/v4spjg.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/luv0rt.jpg
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Is there any way to do inpainting/masking on Civitai without needing to use a local interface like ComfyUI or A1111?
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Aaaaaaaaaaaaa my eyes:(
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How is fellatrix able to charge so much for this?
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hyper goes to /d/
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it's nai
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only 25 dollars for nai??
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absolute localslop
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at least it's not 102d and 291h, right?
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>>8728636
Fellatrix' main customer base are unironic black men loving proud cuckolds. They are not known for being conservative with their expenses.
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>local
>slop
absolute skill issue
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I can no longer tell where it ends and where it begins anon's
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>>8728550
i like you too, bwo
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I like r3mixanon but not his shitmix.
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>>8728790
what do you gen on?
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I’m having a tough time on mage trying to get clitoral stimulation gens, does anyone have any advice?
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I am going to continue to spread my degeneracy and there is nothing you can do to stop me.
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Never occurred to me how much I would enjoy genning images of these particular two banging. Too many anime couples, not enough time.
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>>8728802
Sekrit Greek
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>>8728864
That's a lovely rendered abat-jour lamp.
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I just figured out upscaling, how did I do?
https://files.catbox.moe/xx2eze.png
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https://files.catbox.moe/fb2eru.png
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>>8728894
Those look great
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>>8728790
<3
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>>8728894
Do you happen to be the anon who posted a two-headed SEAF-chan in /vg/hdg/ yesterday during the paintpig vs AIchad chimpout?
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>>8728911
nope
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>>8728914
That has to be the weirdest coincidence then, that guy was also trying to figure out upscaling, also used a similar retro style with hieroglyphs in a corner and also used Comfy.
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>>8728915
Yes, it's just a coincidence and not me just panicking after someone recognized me on another board, leading me to try and cover up my trail so I could keep on posting meme pic sloppa of SEAF-chan, without people starting to make snide remarks or such.
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>>8728911
/vg/ has a /hdg/? You can post hentai there?
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>>8728920
the pics look gud
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>>8728937
/hdg/ is helldivers
but there is a hentai games general where you can skirt the blue board rules a bit, as long as it's a screenshot directly from the game
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>>8728947
>hentai games general
Hmm there's one on /v/ too. 4chan is a strange place.
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>>8728952
Well, many of them are far more games than they are hentai. Just a classic jRPG you could play for hours without seeing a single scene. Like the Sequel series (what a dumb name), or Demon's Roots.
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faggots
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>>8728964
>RPGmakerslop
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>>8728984
Those mentioned are some of the best out there, in terms of having an actual story and well balanced combat.
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Horse girls riding horse dildos
Wolf and dog girls having sex with werewolves
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>>8729040
>>>/trash/ we can't have fun like that here.
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>>8729046
I'll rather have fun on my own tbqh
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>>8729046
Dildos of any shape are fine afaik. At least I've posted before a few and there were no issues.

as for the girls, it depends on the level of furry. Ears and tail are normie tier, furry feet or hooves are risky but still fine usually. Just don't deform the face.
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Final chapter of the Saint Dorei Trilogy, info about it:

Description

link:https://vndb.org/v51465/chars#chars
St. Lilium Academy.
Under the school motto of "Be noble as a lily," this prestigious academy values the independence and self-reliance of its students.
The academy has long produced many outstanding students in the fields of academics, sports, and the arts, but it has a hidden side that must never be revealed.
The Nanjo family.
An illegal continental organisation that engages in various evil deeds, including human trafficking, is said to be controlling the academy from behind the scenes.
The Nishiki family is in conflict with Nanjo.
To the Nishiki family, who have built up strong connections in the political and financial world through the sale of sex slaves, Nanjo, who also engages in human trafficking, is a troublesome fellow businessman.
In order to weaken Nanjo's power, Nishiki sends a man as an assassin to St. Lilium Academy.
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>>8729059
Looks like every other ero-VN I've skimmed the past five years.

wrong thread btw
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very advanced shitpost
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nyatorase is the only decent eroge in recent years
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>>8729118
box if local
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>>8729122
I hope you like spaghetti
https://files.catbox.moe/2mj7de.png
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>>8729144

that's a lot of nodes
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>>8729189
yet is still 1girl pov fellatio, very funny don't you agree
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>>8729192
That and a couple other tags bus essentially, yes
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>>8729192
*1girl, pov, fellatio in a fried AIslop style
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what triggered oekakifag this time?
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https://files.catbox.moe/z559js.webm
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>>8729212
we really should have taken this logo
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>>8729216
No, I already told you we need something better
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>>8729226
no you didn't
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>>8729227
yes I did, now get to work
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>>8729227
He told me tho
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>>8729228
but you really didn't
>>8729229
now there's two of us
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here is your logo sirs
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>>8729236
It's fucking shit bro, where are the QoS and QoH?
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has anyone tried quen image edit?
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>>8729249
Didn't see the need, Flux itself is already pretty god at inpainting. And also too slow to be practical for anything.
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>>8729236
I think you mean saar
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novel ai
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losted
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>>8729090
OUR wife
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>>8728998
Not him but story matters way more to me than combat, which is why I never liked the Sequel games. Far too much yapping and very little H content. The best games integrate the H content into the story like Kunoichi Botan or RJ236651
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>>8728563
>so what triggered you this time?
I think we got off on the wrong foot. Can we shake hands and be frens?
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Chat isn't allowed to be friends with anyone but me
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>>8729059
I love how skirts below the knee are way more erotic than tiny miniskirts these days. It's just way too common I guess.
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>>8729144
Oh catbox has started displaying pics again.
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>>8728909
sexo
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Why the /u/ must be this dead
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>>8729465
transsexuals have high suicide rate
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Chat, I went back to inpainting with Euler Ancestral CFG++ again instead of using the same sampler as base gen because for the last 4 gens or so I didn't like how my shit looked in the end
Now I am a little more happy with the result, in fact, I don't remember why I stop using it
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this thing is haunted how the fuck do i make it so the girl i'm making isn't merged with the characteristics of the character that fucks her.
it worked well when i was making an orc or goblin fuck her but i tried onis and male characters and now it's mix and matching and giving her a dick.
using stability matrix
stable diffusion webui reforge
i have no money do not reccomend me paid sites
i'm using the plantmilk model i got from civit
it creates standalone characters well


send help im so sick of dickgirls and the girl becoming a furry
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>>8729486
i just want a furry twink from arknights fucking faust, man.
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>>8729482
For me it's because differential diffusion inpainting doesn't work with cfg++.
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>>8729486
>>8729488
I am confused, you want a furry twink or faust to fuck a girl or you want the furry to fuck faust?
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>>8729494
the latter

apparently there is something that has this feature, separate prompts for separate characters

novelai

it's

PAID

AAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>8729496
>gay shit
yeah, hopefully the miquellabros can help you out on this one
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>>8729491
>differential diffusion inpainting
neat
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>>8729496
i checked novelai and it made me hate capitalism. at least it tried to get me what i wanted. it just looked baaaaaaaaaaaaaad compared to what stable diffusion pumped out, anyways i don't know what a miquellabro is.
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geg?
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I don't k
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I have been trying to get a prompt to work correctly. I want 1boy to be groping 1girl's breast while 1girl is holding his dick, and they are hugging. Why is this concept so hard to get across to a prompter?

And then of course as I'm typing this, I got a semi-decent render.
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gay retard faggot
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>>8729523
Is it still too hard to get her golden eye to show up?
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>>8729571
No, but this dude isn't even trying.
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>>8729571
Oh, I wasn't even trying for that. She doesn't wear the contact to bed.
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Neither. Nordic and French.
How dark are you nogen?
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>Nordic and French
Oh look an amerimutt larping as an actual ethnicity, how novel.
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Okay Pablo. I know it sucks to not be white but this isn't the thread for it.
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i comed
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>>8729572
No he just seems to be new. Why can't you help him?
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it's kinda rough to get 1boy sitting on the edge of the bed like this.
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>>8729666
Box? How did you do it?
>satan
Oh... never mind.
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>>8729666
Sloppers would rather roll the gacha 10000 times rather than just draw a pink blob and inpaint.
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>>8729672
>just inpaint
Nyoooo!
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But can NAI do the kanikananika style?
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>>8729655
Because he's an ungenuine shitposter trying to bring the thread down with the same shitty bait pretending to be a clueless noob
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>>8729728
How does posting >>8729523 bring down the thread?
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>>8729726
I remember you, you also posted something like this in the illust era, good shit
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>>8729744
>illust era
You mean pony? I posted a pic of this character (random) when I was testing the lora the first time, then another a long time ago when I rebaked it on illu and turned her into an OC. Now again after I rebaked it on vpred.
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>>8729745
I don't remember the one you did on pony but remember the one you did on illust because I asked you to share that lora at that time
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>>8729747
Here is the new lora. No activation tag or anything.
https://pixeldrain com/u/jSg2kfiQ
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>>8729755
I wasn't asking for it but hey, thanks, I'm probably going to take it as excuse to do some gens later
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>>8729784
mid
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>>8729786
or feed?
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Feral Amazon women anyone?
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>>8729782
This is a repost.
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>>8729792
bulky arms are a no from me dawg
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>>8729758
Nice. I remember this style from a while back.
>>8729784
Catbox? I may gen a few pics like this later today.
>>8729792
Too strong. Toned is much better.
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>>8729795
My chatters are so loyal, make me heart go doki doki, remember to vote in the discord for the next blacked set btw

>>8729799
>https://files.catbox.moe/lk3obk.png
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>>8729796
>>8729799
Better?
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>>8729833
it's alright. little too western for my taste
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>>8729807
>no implied fellatio
Oh. I guess you did it the old fashioned way.
>>8729833
Better, but not best.
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>>8729833
So if NAI can do text perfectly now, why can't it do signatures and logos perfectly too?
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>>8729792
This is close to my limit I think.
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>>8729849
tits look fake
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>>8729851
Way less than >>8729792, but yeah. I like them firm at this size.
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>>8729849
Best
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>>8729833
>elves
>not sluts by default
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>>8729834
(  ̄▽ ̄)
>>8729835
Oki
>>8729836
Maybe its a censored thing or something.
>>8729874
I haven't even specify her as an elves, it did it itself
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>>8729849
Very nice!
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>>8729758
boxo?
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>>8729956
https://files.catbox.moe/tb1a2f.png
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>>8729967
Thank you.
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>>8729732
I have no idea. I'm trying to contribute to the thread, but people seem to like to nogen and argue about things more than posting stuff.
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>>8730014
The issue is that people don't like Wai but other than that it's good to get some more pics and some discussion every now and then.
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>>8730015
Huh, well none of my images are using Wai. I am using another illustrious base though. I guess that's just semantics though.
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>>8730017
It's just the usual people grumbling about 2.5d shiny skin who also don't like to post images.
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>>8730035
Based but a little weird ngl, is she getting off to the idea of getting scolded?
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>>8730040
Women
https://files.catbox.moe/mpc9bu.jpg
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Men only want one thing and it's fucking disgusting
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>>8730126
You have no idea. Why are robot waifu stories so sad?
https://exhentai.org/g/3118944/b3658a2802/
https://exhentai.org/g/601371/4a2823690b/
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>>8730153
Oh sweet, more material to fuel my delusions
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>>8730155
You'll need a box of tissues, but not for the reason you think.
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>>8730155
How did you get it to come out so clean at that res? Especially with shitty dino.
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>>8730172
Could always upscale at low denoise to not have it become dirty.
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>>8730172
upscale and inpaint, you are never going to escape from those, chat
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>>8730348
Yeah yeah but what's the process? How is indrawing going to fix the lines generally?
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>>8730383
>How is indrawing going to fix the lines generally?
Everytime you inpaint you "inject" pixels into the image, if you inpaint the blurry/melty areas using a low padding and high resolution what do you think it's going to happen, more injected pixels more detail
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>>8730397
>yeah but what's the process?
So you go through the image, look for blurry areas, then inpaint with the full prompt or just what's in the space? Quality tags?
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>>8730400
>So you go through the image, look for blurry areas, then inpaint with the full prompt or just what's in the space?
Exactly that, yes, I adjust my prompt removing or adding tags according to the area I am trying to inpaint
>Quality tags?
Only the ones they already were in the base prompt
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>>8730412
Ok I'll give it a try, thank you.
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By the way, someone should bake a new thread, it is time
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Are we making changes to the OP?
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>>8730431
yes
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>>8730432
What changes?
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>>8730433
use this >>8714634
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>>8730435
Don't forget to remove the (embed)
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>>8730435
Don't forget to add the link to https://novelai.net/image
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>>8730436
>(embed) (embed) (embed)
I like stacking, doe?
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>>8730438
>novelai
>>/hdg/
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>>8730435
you couldn't figure template or something?
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>>8730442
thought that lora rentry guy would stick around for a little longer and maintain his own
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>>8730444
i'm still here and reading hgg though
template in the op is the updated one
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>>8730445
>nai and shitmixes linked
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>>8730447
>shitmixes
it's better to link them and call them shitmixes, not "recommended models" or whatever
>nai
don't see any point in removing still relevant paid service just because it makes some schizo a little upset
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>>8730452
>it's better to link them and call them shitmixes, not "recommended models" or whatever
put them in the faq or something
>don't see any point in removing still relevant paid service just because it makes some schizo a little upset
make a separate thread for it. this one is for local lora baking
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you need to go back
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>>8730457
make a separate thread for local lora baking without nai in the op and be done with hgg then
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>>8730467
check /hgg/ #001 retard
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>>8730469
check it for what?
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>>8730481
>>8730481
>>8730481
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