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PLAPkame wa PLAP Edition

Previous Thread: >>8781529

>LOCAL UI
A1111: https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui
Forge: https://github.com/lllyasviel/stable-diffusion-webui-forge | Alternative version (reForge): https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-reForge
Comfy: https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUI

>LOCAL MODELS
Illustrious: https://civitai.com/models/795765 | https://civitai.com/models/1232765
Noob: https://civitai.com/models/833294

>RESOURCES
Wiki: https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/wiki | https://comfyanonymous.github.io/ComfyUI_examples | https://openart.ai/workflows/templates
Training: https://rentry.org/59xed3 | https://github.com/derrian-distro/LoRA_Easy_Training_Scripts | https://github.com/bmaltais/kohya_ss | https://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainer
Tags: https://danbooru.donmai.us/wiki_pages/tag_groups | https://danbooru.donmai.us/related_tag
ControlNet: https://rentry.org/dummycontrolnet | https://civitai.com/models/136070
IOPaint (LamaCleaner): https://www.iopaint.com/install
Upscalers: https://openmodeldb.info
Booru: https://aibooru.online
4chanX Catbox/NAI prompt userscript: https://rentry.org/hdgcb
Pony-related: https://rentry.org/ponyxl_loras_n_stuff | https://rentry.org/ponyxl_lora_previews | https://lite.framacalc.org/4ttgzvd0rx-a6jf
Illustrious-related: https://rentry.org/illustrious_loras_n_stuff
Useful Nodes/Extensions: https://rentry.org/8csaevw5

OP Template/Logo: https://rentry.org/hdgz/edit | https://files.catbox.moe/xk99gy.png | https://files.catbox.moe/35bdt5.gif

>Related
>>>/aco/sdg
>>>/g/sdg
>>>/g/ldg
>>>/d/ddg
>>>/e/edg
>>>/c/kdg
>>>/vt/vtai
>>>/vg/aids
>>>/b/degen
>>>/trash/sdg
>>>/u/udg
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>>8785494
What happened? Didi the slider get his own threads deleted again?
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>PAID
NovelAI 4.5:https://novelai.net/image
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>>8785494
AniStudio(WIP):https://github.com/FizzleDorf/AniStudio
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highlights???
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>>8785524
Maybe next thread.
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wawaweewa...
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>>8785284
>>8785286
at least they are getting deleted
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novel ai
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losed
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hdg decline
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there IS no decline
it's a cozy lazy sunday is all
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can you do sailor mars next
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and make it blacked
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Is reforge still the best option? It seems buggy now.
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>>8785710
I've been strugging getting decent speeds with my rx 9070 xt finding a working rocm way to gen images. Switched to sd-next and honestly sd-next is really good supports rocm and cuda and has tons of features.
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>>8785693
one blacked sailor marks coming up!
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oops, typo >///<
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>>8785763
nai wonnered again....
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hmm...
I should gen sex with santa hats on...
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just 1 catgoddess gen please
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the cat fag where is?
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he's restin'
he'll be back I'm sure.
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>he
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THAT'S MA'AM
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which gacha whores should I gen rimming dogs today?
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>>8785864
ur mom
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butiful 4ch VAE residual noise
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now that's autism
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as a former golden age /hdg/ poster i came here to say this: you deserved all of this. fucking ruins of a great thread.
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>>8785879
Newfag here. What happened?
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its pony
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>#773.12
What causes this?
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>>8785887
CCP Noob shills started harassing everyone who wasn't using their chink failbake built on stolen code, turning this place into a toxic wasteland.
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so true, i'm on pony v7 myself
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>>8785895
Ahh, I see. I was wondering if all of that was normal for here, but I guess it wasn't until recently. A lot of ragebait, too.
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>>8785900
That's a minors.
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>>8785903
There's a smidge of lipstick on the lower lip, which means she's in her 30s now by anime years.
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>>8785903
>BBC cup tits
>childs
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mmmm, fried childs...
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>>8785867
Feeling nervous about your waifu licking dog donuts, gachacuckie?
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>>8785915
no, post it
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>>8785915
Mikazuki Munechika
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why is it so
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it's not noob
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Been gone for a few months. Is Illustrious/Noob/Wai still the meta?
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>noob
>meta
lol
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wai is literally the best. only base style though
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netayume chads run this general
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netayume chads cream their panties over 1girl standing
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>>8785938
Be better if he had a police uniform. Like he arrives on the scene, there's a naked woman, and she just takes him somehow, and this one frame is all we get to see.
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>naked woman
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ewww women
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>>8785962
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>>8785972
Well now some cops are just about to fuck in the street. Which isn't bad, but it just raises questions instead of telling a story.
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i hate to say it but i think nai wonned
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waow
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nai wonnered?? guess i have to scrounge up 25 dollars somehow...
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this kills the nai creature
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it killed me too
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that one looks really rotoscoped lmao
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>>8785976
sounds more like you enjoy saying it repeatedly
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i love to say it but i think local wonned
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you cant beat wai base style
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>>8786001
This.
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>static
sigh...
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feel free too make a vidgen thread :)
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stfu nigg/e/r
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how can anyone think all the various styles novel ai can perfectly replicate look anywhere near as good as the default noob and wai styles
are they ungenuine troll?
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so much thats
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even zit finetune won't save hdg now :( it's over
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good
let this shit hole rot
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even with a new sota model hdg would still just gen the most boring 1girl pov cowgirl slop
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there is nothing wrong with pov cowgirl
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>the newest version of WAN is behind SaaS
its over
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fuck off to civitai
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so theyre even keeping rotoscoping behind a paywall? grim...
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there's no way that's an ais?!?
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>>8786038
Retarded goycattle deserve only to be exploited until they die.
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>all the shitty saas free services like civitai start banning nsfw
>all of a sudden the bastion of local genning, /hdg/, comes to a screeching halt with the lowest amount of gens in history

curious! was this place only pretending to brag about local's superiority?
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when I jack off to pretty boys I say no homo
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>>8786042
Then why is darknessfag still posting his shit?
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why is noodlekek like this?
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truth is that most oldfags except for the most autistic ones got bored and newfags go to /slop/ and /ldg/
hdg is like the ruins of Rome now. the decline already happened and now we can only reminisce the old times of hdg glory...
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there is NO decline
everything is FINE
thread is BETTER than ever
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>>8786049
I don't think he even bothers with this thread anymore. You need to go and bother him at /hgg/
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nai won too hard
you could at least meme on v3 for being blurry
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it's fucking noodlekek
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>>8786056
lil bro acting like V4 wasn't a hilariously bad failbake so terrible that they had to release 4.5, which still looks like hot garbage and randomly fucks up artist mixing.
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uh oh the creature got angry this time
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>I don't think he even bothers with this thread anymore
>noodlekek posted already itt
what did anon mean by thats?
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I bet noodlekek baked this thread so you didn't bother him in /hgg/.
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>nai out of nowhere
stfu shills
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why was this deleted
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what is the purpose of hgg
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should I do it?
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>>8786074
one of the many tactics of novel ai shills to destroy the forefront of local image generation /hdg/
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>>8786078
well either way, it's working
no one wants to post in a half-dead thread, and now we have two instead of a single normal one
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fyi I tried out diffusion-cg on base v-pred and it still works, shouldn't noise fuckery fail on v-pred and/or z-snr? Guessing Vectorscope would work too then.

Not that it's needed when you can get an overly dark or tone-tinted pic without it, just a bunch more sliders to mess around with.
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>>8786080
I'd kill for it to just be a half-dead thread. that'd be perfectly fine and comfy.
but that isn't the problem. the problem is endless garbage off-topic schizo text spam that mods do absolutely nothing about, slider-kun molesting the entire board and then you get hit/run spam by catfaget, kr*ta and darknessfag and who the fuck wants to bookend that?
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>>8786089
seethe harder oekakischizo
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it's noodlekek
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>>8786090
it's not him, noodleick
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Noodlekek is working hard on his 2536th fully upscaled, inpainted and cleaned up gen, he doesn't have time to shitpost with you plebs.
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>>8786089
I consider it dead, those posts might as well not exist. Easy to filter too if you felt like it.
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>>8786095
does noodlekek have flourishing twitter account?
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>>8786095
lmao imagine wasting that much time on AI goonslop instead of just downloading a bunch of wildcards, oof.
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what's a noodlekek
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this thread is great when you filter all the remaining gens
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fuck you rapeape
this shit does nothing to stop ecker shitposting
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uh oh noodleick meltie
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I just filter all posts
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I closed this tab a year ago. Never been happier.
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sames :^)
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WAI no longer works on my setup and I refuse to pull
What do I do?!
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$25
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shalom
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COWGIRL POV ME ONE MORE TIME
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hmmm, nyo n_n
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Can I get some 1boy, trap (formerly otoko no ko), huge ass, small penis, foreskin?
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>>8786210
cathag does that a lot, just wait for him to come back.
any moment now, just hand in there.
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cathag has unfortunately passed away :(
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xer spirits lives on in every grey /aco/ gen
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>>8786222
Grey? Maybe the old pony ones, grey and yellow. The more recent ones I remember as overly high contrast.
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>>8786219
no
no no no
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>>8785985
I think it's time for you to start to seriously consider salads.
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I'm genning 1boys... https://litter.catbox.moe/fvja2eu5a6slq5m8.png
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>>8786268
skinny, thin thighs, thin legs, no fingers, featureless hands, featureless feet, full body, contrapposto, pigeon-toed, skirt lift
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>>8786210
monkeypaw
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>>8786275
why it's deleted
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what causes this
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not fried enough
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>>8786314
we know, colonel
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waow
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>>8786322
based if loli, cringe if shota
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>>8786322
no fr*aking way in h*ll that's AI
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hehehe
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Any NTS gens?
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I'm the decline
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>>8786351
hello, my son.
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>>8786335
that's a gen, i can tell by the pixels and having seen many gens in my time
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>>8786348
Check my patreon
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kek'd
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man, I need to work out
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>>8786372
straight shota pipeline
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>>8786395
very painterly brat
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>>8786395
why is she so smug >:(
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I am back, saars! :D
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>>8786417
sailer mars pls?
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>>8786421
dozo
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poopoo
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>shitmuncher is back
great...
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>>8786395
reminds me of ashley jones's old room
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back from where
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missclick :D
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>>8786421
=^)
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>500x500
is thats NAI?
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back from india
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gonna need more than a shower to wash away that much poop
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I just got here how can I tell genuine posts apart from troll posts
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troll post
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every post is troll post
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troll posts are the ones with images
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troll posts are the ones with no images
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base
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>>8786477
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see
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>>8786450
krita diffusion, i don't have enough vram to use higher resolution
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a
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wawaweewa...
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ooh lala...
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did he drawned that?
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I'm getting ready to train a lora... something I attempted with mixed results ~2 years ago.
I'll use noobvpred as the base model, and have ~60 ref images to work with.
Is kohya_ss still the best application to use for this, or are there better options now?
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>>8786526
Doesn't matter when you're using a 2 years old config. Just tick v-pred and z-snr, and disable noise offset if you had it on.
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>>8786539
Thanks. Last run was on an SD 1.4 base model. I removed the instance once I was done with project, so will be starting from scratch with a fresh install.
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>>8786526
I recommend this fork of easyscripts for training loras:
https://github.com/67372a/LoRA_Easy_Training_Scripts

Also if you need more lora training advice, I recommend you head over to Laxhar's Noobai server:
https://discord.gg/j6WxRTJz

ALSO
this thread needs a hero, so I updated my D-Art Lora :))) this time no otoko no kos that are preg-nante in the first picture this time:
https://civitai.com/models/2106831?modelVersionId=2460651

all previous watermarks in the training images were removed using IOpaint, a fantastic piece of software i can recommend for any lora baker.

still, i wonder why my D-Art lora is one of the most popular amongst my other loars on civit. hmm.
kind regards,
gforce anon
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less talk more gens
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hmm, I should buy some baby oil...
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>>8786640
not enough cum
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not enough cocks
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Lamp my beloved
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>>8786721
for me it's the wooden interior
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why
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>>8786739
no no no
"WAI" ;)
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>>8786685
Why is she so old?
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business idea- gacha sluts but aged down
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bbc
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>>8786603
>easyscripts
Thanks; I'll check it out. Looks like it uses kohya_ss install; it's an alternative frontend that does configuration?
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what a coincidence, i'm new too!
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>>8786853
mine shitcoins
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>>8786871
nice breast implants WHORE
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Scat + bibici enjoyers WW@ :D
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>>8786875
FGO + BLACKED is too fucking good. They need to do an official collab already.
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sirsisters?
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( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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>>8786884
repost >:(
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anyone got any gens of Shigure from histroy's strongest disciple kenichi?
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where bbc
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>>8786848
nta but yeah
easier to set things up, don't need to rename your dataset folders, etc.
and it has over-over tooltips for almost everything which helps a bit too
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>>8786873
All anime chicks have natural melons.
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bwc doko
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ohh rotoscoperuu
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This obviously isn't gay because balls aren't touching, but isn't it bordering on it?
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>>8787096
Oh, wow! That's really nice. What loras for that style?
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>>8787114
harada takehito, (tenk:0.9)
on 102d custom, no Lora
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>>8787103
I think the worst part is you're staring another dude in the face.
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Been a while. What's this Z-Image thing? The next hot model?
Or is it for realistic gen only?
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geg
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>>8787125
it is locals response to novel ai
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>>8786603
>using trigger words for a style
You are maximum retarded, as the other anon said, you should kill yourself.
There is literally no valid reason to have styles or concepts use trigger words, just makes it more difficult to use with 0 gain.
Only time trigger words should be used is when a LoRA can do multiple things and you want to pick out what parts it should do, like a multi char LoRA.
Like why the fuck should I prompt this random ass "jz235" word just to use the LoRA? How the fuck am I gonna remember it?
The only thing I should have to do is prompt <lora:d-art:1>
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>>8787129
Is it better than Illustrious or NoobAI for anime gen?
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>>8787133
no, but it has potential as a base for finetuning
better than base SDXL in understanding natural language, and doesn't need much more hardware
sort of a compromise between the current arch and Qwen, which is far too heavy to get a finetune
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>>8787138
Thanks, seems promising
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>>8787140
Everything seems promising until it arrives. Expect nothing good out of it like the rest.
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>>8787144
https://noprestige.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/e3_2_1.png

Anyway the closest thing is NewBie which should come out at the end of the year, they said 31st. Lumina unet, Flux 16ch VAE, full danbooru +1mil e621.
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>>8787147
>1mil e621 only
Pathetic lmao
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Got any Ateliers lying around?
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taking that as a no
well it would've just been Ryza anyway like always
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geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeg
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>trying to make an "adult community" on a voip platform for literal children
lol
lmao
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/slop/ is talking about us again
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What should I prompt today?
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>>8787194
why? you're not worth talking about
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why is noodleick like this?
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>>8787161
If you're going to advertise, at least make it good, not this SD1.5 slop
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>>8787288
its wai
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>>8787338
huh...
that is one happy lamp.
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geeeeg
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fried waislop hours
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>>8787390
SDXL trying to render some texture with it's 4cucky VAE will never not look funny.
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>>8787355
good taste in nipples, not puffy at all, very nice.
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>>8787408
they look painted on
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>>8787410
shut up and start suckling >:)
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guys guys, Z image turbo could actually be a thing, people are already making loras in anime style and it acually handle the styles decent, it just needs a good train. And the shit can run even on 4-6gb vram, and is 8 steps.
The prompt adherence and complexity is way better than xl with illustrious or noobai. This could actually be a happening more than before since how easy it's to make loras some guys are just using 12gb.
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>>8787418
Flux could handle anime loras too. Don't get your hopes up.
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>>8787430
doesnt it hurt your bottom line providing us with so much free content from your patreon?
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>>8787421
Chinks promised the base model though. But it's getting delayed (probably because they're censoring it)
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>>8787132
>How the fuck am I gonna remember it?
this is why I rename style lora with triggers words to their trigger word and have them in a "trigger" subfolder so when I autocomplete a lora in the lora loader node I remember to copy paste the name in the prompt
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>>8787471
What you should do instead is beat the shit out of retards who train LoRAs for making things complex for 0 reason.
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>>8787397
this. nai won bigly
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>>8787475
It won lacklusterly. The VAE is alright, but now you can only generate sketches. Sugoi. Sugoi.
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nah
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nai keeps loosing
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sketches > shiny ai slop
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>>8787132
>There is literally no valid reason
except for the cases where the style trains 3 times as fast with no other changes
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>>8787476
>if your picture doesn't look like >>8787430 it's a sketch
what causes this
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>bump limit reached
new thread whendooru~
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>>8787495
Bobblehead cardboard cutouts just aren't sexy.
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>bobblehead out of nowhere
noodleick...
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>>8787532
Noodlekek loves them too. Proofs: https://files.catbox.moe/nbub36.png
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back to ur containment thread noodleick
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>>8787538
nice sketch
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>>8787544
This is called soulless ai-generated outline. Sketches are available for $25 which noodlekek refuses to pay.
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>>8787548
noodlekek has been shilling nai for years
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>>8787551
Had been.
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not shiny enough
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>>8787508
Ideally it should be capable of both.
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>>8787558
No, it really doesn't have to be capable of reproducing that patreon slop, but believe it or not, there are styles that aren't that and aren't sketches. NovelAI team doesn't want you to know that, but they exist.
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novelai team, how do we silence him?
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If NAI is so great, why can't it do pony slop style?
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because its really ugly
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>>8787561
Is patreon slop not a valid use case? Clearly many people only paid for naiv3 because of it.
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>>8787565
It's v4.0 default style, with quality tags without artists.
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MIQO!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>8787575
Oops sorry, I forgot to clean out 4.5 negs from previous gen, so it's not exactly default style, but close enough.
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>>8787577
almost
needs cat_tail in there, this one is too thick and fluffy
and she's missing the ponytail

Also, is that really "huge nipples, hyper nipples"? They look slightly above average.
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>>8787580
it's nai
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>>8787132
I see your points, and I'm happy to test them out. I'm currently training my 2n5 LoRA without a trigger word, using a slightly higher learning rate to compensate (0.0005 vs. 0.0004 for the unet, and 5e-05 vs. 4e-05 for the text encoder). All other training settings are identical.

I'll create a 2x2 grid and post it here, comparing results from prompts like 1girl/1boy using the LoRAs trained with and without the trigger.

My hypothesis is that the LoRA trained without a trigger will apply the style to 1boy/2boys easily, but will struggle to apply the same style to 1girl/2girls compared to the LoRA trained with the trigger.

I base this on the fact that there are almost no images of girls in the training dataset. I believe the style will become bound to the most prevalent subjects (boys), rather than being a universally applicable style triggered by a specific word. But let's wait for the training results and let them speak for themselves.
Kind regards,
G. Force Anon
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>>8787583
Ass worms crawl out from this post...
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>>8787583
Could you add a third case? Reuse the danbooru/e621 trigger tag when one already exists.
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>>8787584
>Ass worms crawl out from this post...
what
what does that have to do with anything

>>8787586
>Could you add a third case? Reuse the danbooru/e621 trigger tag when one already exists.
I can do that too later if time permits it, good suggestion.
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>>8787590
Just had to mention it. Not pleasant to be around that sort of thing, you know?
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>>8787593
>Just had to mention it. Not pleasant to be around that sort of thing, you know?
why, are you talking from experience?
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it's mai
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>>8787595
Yeah, IT is right in this thread.
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>>8787583
kys troon
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why bro posting glazed images
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>>8787609
It's painterly with 4ch VAE >:(
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>>8787505
Having a completely random trigger word doesn't make a LoRA train 3 times as fast lmao. Wtf are you smoking?
>>8787583
If there's any difference it will just be RNG anyways.
>I base this on the fact that there are almost no images of girls in the training dataset. I believe the style will become bound to the most prevalent subjects (boys), rather than being a universally applicable style triggered by a specific word
The LoRA itself is the trigger, when you use a LoRA, you're using the entirity of it. Having a seperate trigger word attached to every image of the dataset doesn't change anything.
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>>8787610
well it looks like doodoo stop it
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new thread/migrate?
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>>8787616
Sorry but I'm not the one doing it ._.
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kys
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keep yourself safe anon!
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>>8787617
Sure, make one.
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kys
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>>8787611
I am smoking the results of two years and half of lora training. For whatever reason, sometimes having any trigger tag makes the lora work far better than none.

I suspect it's closely related to how mixing innate artists works vs mixing style loras. Without a trigger, your lora is only affecting the base style of the model. Which can then be pushed off-course by tags you prompt for that have their own style bias, most notable quality tags and quality negs, but also others. Having its own tag seems to help it oppose such biases.

Just guessing here, obviously. But the effect itself is easy to see.
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migrate
>>8786829
>>8786829
>>8786829
>>8786829
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hmm..nyo :3
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haha what if i posted the link to the QoS general next haha wouldn't that be epic ???
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I'm gonna do it
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i said gas the kikes race war whendooru!
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>>8787611
>>8787627
Have some preliminary results. I picked the best epoch from the training run with no trigger word (and a slightly higher lr), downsized it like i did with the lora with trigger. in the catbox is the comparison betwen the one i have on civit and the one without trigger:
https://files.catbox.moe/85iqyu.jpg

I will test with different checkpoints to see how mixes affect the lora with and without trigger word. Open to suggestions as well.
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hmm...
I should gen some jewish anime girls... myes...
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>>8787648
to add, i also added a comparison with and without quality tags to see how they affect the style in the two loras.
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>>8787648
>almost 2026 and retards still use quality tags
LMAO
>not even the same epoch
>and a slightly higher lr
Okay so you didn't even train them 1:1, your "tests" are useless lmao.
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why is the nogen so angery?
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>>8787656
I am the gen
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>he doesn't use quality tags
lmao
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>1216x832
of course kek
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I use quality loras instead!! detailedEyesXL is my favorite
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>>8787655
I can train it with the same LR if you want, I assumed it was fine since no one protested earlier when I said I would raise the LR a bit to compensate for lack of trigger word. But IMO I think it will put the lora without trigger word in a worse spot compared to the one with.

also have a another comparison between checkpoints:
https://files.catbox.moe/gcahr9.jpg
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>>8787660
Yeah I don't upscale them unless they're worth it. Where's your gen?
>>8787663
Yeah it's just "different", so like I said, RNG. Especially on good models like 102d. Either way, shitty tests and only 1 comparison per model.
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>another nai shitpost
sigh
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>>8787666
>ither way, shitty tests and only 1 comparison per model.
how would you do the tests then?
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>>8787663
imo only the quality of the end result should matter, having to adjust training settings is fine as long as it doesn't burn
testing them is the main trouble
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:3
https://files.catbox.moe/vzbyq9.png
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>good models like 102d
kekmaoing
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>>8787670
Can you not read retard? I've already explained most of it. Train same way, don't use shitty models, compare across 10 random seeds instead of just 1 and don't use shitty euler.
>>8787673
>nogen
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>>8787674
>don't use shitty models
like which ones?
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>>8787676
local models
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local modes won
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what did they wonned
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have a trap (otoko no ko formerly) while we wait for the lora with same lr to bake :)
https://files.catbox.moe/lhdepu.jpg
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gays go to >>8786829
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traps aren't gay
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>>8787686
more you say? you got it! have 2 traps (formerly otoko no kos) + 1 male while we wait :)
https://files.catbox.moe/pavatx.jpg
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your mother regrets not aborting you every day of her life
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thats futa on male not traps
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>that's fagshit not fagshit
no one cares. kill yourself
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full package futa on female is very straight (and hot) albeit
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1girl
standing
seductive smile
contrapposto
beach

huge penis, precum
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post bbc
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>>8787705
you see any females in those pics
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>>8787701
A futa has a pussy, do you see one? I don't.
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if you want to see a pussy just look in the mirror
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>>8787708
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>>8787714
hehe
anon ur funny :3
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>>8787714
is this the Sailor Mars playing with Big Black Cock?
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>>8787691
Yeah yeah, lash out at the thread for not being faggots like you. How dare they. On /h/? Retard.
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>>8787720
but girls can't be gay, anon
and trans women are real women
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uh ohhh meltyyy
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not as melty as your gens lmaaaaooooo
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ok but aside from normal noob vpred and nai_custom, what other checkpoints would you have me use in testing the difference between trigger and no trigger?
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wai
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>>8787731
sure, why not, even though i know i you are shitposting
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we love wai here
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>>8787734
I guess that tests backwards compatibility. Which shouldn't even be a concern, but it's really only those three checkpoints that people use around here.
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>>8787738
I use 291h with gopro lora though.
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why bother with any of that gay shit when you can just use 4.5
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>>8787741
Bobblehead sketches get boring fast.
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i think everyone is saying this
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>>8787738
mm fair, just use the newest wai then?

>>8787739
what is the link to the 291h checkpoint again? i know which checkpioint you are talking about, i just can't find it on civit.
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wowelai
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>oekakischizo still manages to be popular on social media
I am going to scream
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no one cares about bobblehead pedo
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the pajeet slopper fears the oekakichad artist
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>>8787752
patreon status, AYAKON
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ayakon is back?! :DDD
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waow
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sad state of affairs when subhumans would rather spend money on nai than ayakon's patreon
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please just 1 (one) catgoddess gen!
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>>8787765
Isn't that other fag doing the double shift for catfag as well? I don't even see the difference tbhsenpai.
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>no kritty
*sigh*
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i wish catgoddess were real
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can we nuke both generals?
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some preliminary results, this time where lr and epoch and everything else is EQUAL -
EXCEPT for the trigger word in the dataset (or lack of).

also in previous x/y grids, there is a mistake where the lora w. trigger says it's a merge of epoch 50 and 60, not 56/60 - this is a typo on my part, when i edited the name of it in the metadata before uploading it. I have now corrected the name so it shows correctly in the following x/y grids.

Anyway:
10 different seeds over the x-axis, lora trained w. and without trigger word on y-axis. top is with trigger, bottom without.

NoobAI-XL-Vpred-v1.0:
https://files.catbox.moe/othbd4.jpg

naiXLVpred102d_custom:
https://files.catbox.moe/fzz6wa.jpg

ΣΙΗ:
https://files.catbox.moe/g1hohn.jpg

waiIllustriousSDXL_v140 (its base style seems to overshadow both loras):
https://files.catbox.moe/5scc21.jpg

what do you amigos think?
also anything regarding unaliving myself or calling me trans, etc.will be ignored, so you can just stop now :)
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>>8787754
>screams unendingly into the void about <thing>
>proclaims to not care about <thing>
[x]doubt
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>>8787776
>bottom without
Doing the good work.
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>>8787777
tsmt
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>>8787776
You mean faggot right? Trans people don't even exist.
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>not using z-image with uncensor and hentai loras
lol
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>>8787783
It's too melty. Probably because of loras, but even 4ch SDXL can be solid after upscaling (if you are noodlekek especially), but not Z. It's always melty.
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>>8787780
>Doing the good work.
thanks!

and just to avoid confusion - the bottom row in the x/y grids are results from the lora trained where there is NO trigger word in the dataset.

>>8787674
are my tests good enough now?:
>>8787776
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why is noodleick like thats?
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>>8787788
we love rotoscoping
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gen me up
before I go go
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Genning
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why does he call it rotoscoping, when infact, it isn't rotoscoping
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>>8787727
102d final is all you need. I don't get why anyone would use anything else.
>>8787776
Yeah as I said, it's only different due to RNG. Train with the trigger word but change it to something else and you'll see the same amount of difference.
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baking
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>>8787799
it's one of the funny words the cool guys say, just like snake oil
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>>8787802
Can you bake a thread without the stinky worm-infested fag in it?
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>>8787799
someone said it once and the bot picked it up
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>>8787799
just another excuse to text spam
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slidin'
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slide faster. this thread is WAY too icky
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>>8787799
it doesnt look 2d at all or even live 2d
so what do you call it?
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>>8787800
>Yeah as I said, it's only different due to RNG. Train with the trigger word but change it to something else and you'll see the same amount of difference.
I dunno, have you looked at the first x/y graph for NoobAI-XL-Vpred-v1.0? Notice in the bottom row (no trigger) how the plugsuit in general more often has pure white shiny spots, the skin is more pale and the eyes look less like how 2n5 would draw them.
Imo it seems to me that adding a trigger word reduces the amount of overfitting/fryness some characters have, at least on NoobAI-XL-Vpred-v1.0. Asuka esp. suffers from this problem.
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>>8787800
bold of you to think he's smart enough to manage a token combination for himself(he stole the one he's using from oekakischizo).
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hmm...
>>8787628
>>8787728
...mmh
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nothing to see here
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>>8787817
> >>8787628
Erotic lower bodies in OP image
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wtf that's crayz
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>>8787814
this, never share anything in here gforcefag will steal it and put it on their patreon:
https://screenshare.pics/5D78W6.jpg
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virus
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>>8787827
wtf virus, use litter
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OH N-
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>he clikt
rip
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wtf he stole my ip
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>>8787835
hey bro
nice dick >:)
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>>8787733
>>8787762
>>8787835
bot posts
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it's not a virus retards
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why is my computer spewing mustard gas all of a sudden
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nice final url, bery nice
well hopefully he's doxxing the fag, he kinda needs to get got if you know what i mean
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>>8787842
do you really fap to this?
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i clicked the link and i got pink crystals
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>>8787842
Now it's also washed out as fuck on top of the usual melty. Get a grip bro... Pull yourself together.
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>https
>virus
retards
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vidgens, whatever happened there :^)
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>>8787852
Trueeeee, didn't you know s in the end means SAFE?
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>>8787854
it's still going. 2 more weeks and you're gonna regret mocking me
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bidgens :DDD
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>>8787855
secure, actually
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>>8787851
(((((painterly)))))
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secure connection to the ip grabber
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what caused?
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I did NOT cause it this time
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>>8787860
I think I'm going blind, is this just old age? Everything is fading out >:(
But anyway, that cum splatter is very unnatural. Why would it shoot downwards in every direction like this? Makes no sense.
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>>8787865
Don't make me crank it up further, old timer
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>>8787865
That's the cum being ejected out of her cunt at high pressure.
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>>8787870
Not even remotely realistic. Also the cum is from this meme https://litter.catbox.moe/17hdgnqeio1wufbf.jpg
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i clickerd da link :(
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STOP CLICKING LINKS goddammit
this is a gen thread.
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it's not supposed to be realistic though
it's an expressive oil painting of a 1girl, 1boy, hetero, reverse upright straddling, vaginal, ahegao
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racisms will not be tolerated
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4chan.org
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ids mirguuu :DD
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virus
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>>8787877
>it's not supposed to
Not acceptable!
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>>8787893
now fix the colors and the meltiness
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>>8787905
Should be yellow. It's piss after all.
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>>8787906
my piss is almost colorless, tho
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>>8787910
Yeah but blueish spring water crystal clear? That's just too much...
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>>8787906
It should be white, it's not even coming out of her urethra. Have you never seen a pussy before?
With where that liquid is coming from, it must be cum from the guy.
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High. Pressure. Ejaculate. It has nowhere to go so it has to be squeezed out at high velocity. Believe me I've done this with anime girls before.
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you've been btfo'd six ways to sunday over and over. it's time to pack it in rakesh
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>>8787915
>SDXL is retarded with piss
Well that's not new.
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takes 5 seconds to fix. just fucking stop dude lmao
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stop pissing up my general
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I'm Australian
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finally some good henti
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wow hey there
*two* lamps o.o
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everyone else just 1 :(
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https://files.catbox.moe/ojy1z7.png
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>>8787934
isn't minecraft /aco/?
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>>8787934
Virus in meta!
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argh
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>>>/trash/79647144 navel cutout erotic...
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>>8787939
that post is the only decent one in that and the previous thread
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>>8787942
That's why I linked the post and didn't say "hey anons quick! check out the last 2 threads, they are full of win"
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is illustrious dead? The blog hasn't been updated in 6 months and they never released any model after 2.0
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very noodleick
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>>8787945
Bro and sis are really into it. If only their skin wasn't so WAI >:(
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>>8787944
you can't never know what you will get at /trash/
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Wait a minute that's it, I just read the pinnacle /slop/ post.
They will never top this one: >>>/trash/79647796
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Hopefully one day we will also have a quality general like /slop/ here.
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why are you melting?
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>>8787955
Why are you defensive??
>>
no one likes his melted slop
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>>8787952
at least they are having fun :)
>>
I think the first step to making this general a bit closer in quality is being inclusive towards g-force faggot. He's the first step in our necessary transformation, and without that transformation I'm afraid out general will not survive...
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/slop/ won, yeah...
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this, i want transition like centrifugesis
>>
https://files.catbox.moe/eytufn.png
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>>8787956
why are you melting?
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heads too small
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where is catgoddess?
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>>8787966
Why are you defensive??
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>>8787970
why are you melting?
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>>8787971
No reason...
>>
what causes this
>>
Do you think they will ever find cure to adipophilia? It's yucky as fuck, I don't get how so many people can be sick with that crap.
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Oh wait, false alarm, I was just browsing trash.
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what we need is some tasty bbc
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>>8787976
follow the chain >>8787952
>>
who
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>>8787969
Genning boys I can't post here u_u
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What should I eat today?
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nah
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>>8787983
why she so angry
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>>8787987
she's trapped in fried jeetslop
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>>8787985
nice butthole >:)
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https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1995929514824839201
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>>8787994
indians are whiter (aryan)
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I'm waiting
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blue haired girls...
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>>8788017
for nai to catch up*
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>>8788017
https://youtu.be/QTk7AZV2OB8?t=47
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>>8788007
butiful lamp
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https://files.catbox.moe/rryi84.png
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>>8788037
what are those brats smiling FOR?!
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wawaweewa...
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>>8788037
berry cute for once
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samefag...
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there are no samefags here...
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>style shit enough to be oekakischizo's
>heads disturbingly small for his standards
i'm confused
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why is the shitposter so obsessed with oekakischizo
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must be the same guy obssessed with the other namefags, it's like he's in love with all of them, teehee
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>it's one person
heh
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>>8787965
oh yes. mm hm. this one is very good.
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is nais :3
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zimage kinda sucks why are redditors so excited about it, it's like qwen but worse
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bbc...
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https://files.catbox.moe/yyxt9r.png
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>>8788097
Why is the res so low by the way? Feeling like genning for ants today?
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>>8788083
>>8788089
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>>8788097
nice anthole >:)
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>>8788098
because I want crunchy aliased lines and the easiest way of accomplishing that in a way that makes cohesive sense is to upscale for higher detail and then downscale manually with nearest neighbor.
this isn't the first time I've done this sort of thing.
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>>8788097
secondary sexual characteristics doko
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>>8788109
bloat
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you can stop now, we get it.
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what even caused this
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nothing caused anything. it's fine.
I'm going to bed now, see you guys and your... gens later.
bye now :*
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friendship ended with bobbleheads, now bobbleheads but minecraft are my best friend
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>>8788159
can you make the head more rectangular?
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it's 3boys, onii-shota, ancient-egyptian smartphone https://litter.catbox.moe/ne3j0im1g72qbrgc.png
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what caused this thread
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>>8788183
doubt anyone remembers, it's been years
maybe just a natural response to the SD release
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>>8787132
You need trigger words if you train multiple things/styles/concepts and want those things to either, show or not to show in the gen.
If training solely a single style, trigger word is not really necessary, but it does "boost" the style.
Also If you have a dedicated trigger word you can apply weights to it in the prompt, which behaves differently than increasing weights of a lora. A good single style loras are trained with triggers, but usually don't require it, unless you want to boost the style.



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