Alley Zone EditionPrevious Thread: >>8806907>LOCAL UIA1111: https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webuiForge: https://github.com/lllyasviel/stable-diffusion-webui-forge | Alternative version (reForge): https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-reForgeComfy: https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUI>LOCAL MODELSIllustrious: https://civitai.com/models/795765 | https://civitai.com/models/1232765Noob: https://civitai.com/models/833294>RESOURCESWiki: https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/wiki | https://comfyanonymous.github.io/ComfyUI_examples | https://openart.ai/workflows/templatesTraining: https://rentry.org/59xed3 | https://github.com/derrian-distro/LoRA_Easy_Training_Scripts | https://github.com/bmaltais/kohya_ss | https://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainerTags: https://danbooru.donmai.us/wiki_pages/tag_groups | https://danbooru.donmai.us/related_tagControlNet: https://rentry.org/dummycontrolnet | https://civitai.com/models/136070IOPaint (LamaCleaner): https://www.iopaint.com/installUpscalers: https://openmodeldb.infoBooru: https://aibooru.online4chanX Catbox/NAI prompt userscript: https://rentry.org/hdgcbPony-related: https://rentry.org/ponyxl_loras_n_stuff | https://rentry.org/ponyxl_lora_previews | https://lite.framacalc.org/4ttgzvd0rx-a6jfIllustrious-related: https://rentry.org/illustrious_loras_n_stuffUseful Nodes/Extensions: https://rentry.org/8csaevw5OP Template/Logo: https://rentry.org/hdgz/edit | https://files.catbox.moe/xk99gy.png | https://files.catbox.moe/35bdt5.gif>Related>>>/aco/sdg>>>/g/sdg>>>/g/ldg>>>/d/ddg>>>/e/edg>>>/c/kdg>>>/vt/vtai>>>/vg/aids>>>/b/degen>>>/trash/sdg>>>/u/udg
>>8824181Actual Previous Thread:>>8815424>>8815424
this one because it's not tbp
using this one since it doesnt have feces in the OP
I'm just so tired
>>8824188still snowy over there?
>>8824193there's like a foot of snow on the ground that isn't going to go anywhere for a solid week and a half at best because it's so damn cold. For the past week it's been bottoming out around -11f~ with daily highs in the teens. I basically have to live wearing long sleeves and pants with a space heater directly next to me and it sucks. At least there isn't more snow coming to pile on top of everything else(well technically there is it's just so miniscule it doesn't matter).
>>8824200>well technically there is it's just so miniscule it doesn't matteryeah. at least it's not getting more deep but what there is now is going to stay there for a while.
wher eis highlit??
>>8824209f*ck off nai troll
Comfy won./ldg/ won.NAI lost./hdg/ lost.
whormetstreve??
>>8824209Huge win for NovelAI today. Looks like localsissies are still coping.
>>8824209why was this deleted???
>>8824252Was the ring on purpose
>>8824253Yes. Wedding ring. I had to inpaint it out of the girl's hand, too.
>>8824253was the noise and blur on purposethe image looks like it's about to shake apart
>>8824256Yeah, that was also on purpose, I like the old hentai look. Unless you mean something else, then I can't see it. Maybe you can say more.
>>8824254I hate that my slop always wants to make my fat ojisan and way out of his league mature female a legitimate married couple.>>8824256For me? The half-fu manchu.>>8824258nta but that's not it. I get the style you're going for but the composition is falling apart. It's just a step away from breaking back apart into noise.
>>8824261>It's just a step away from breaking back apart into noise.What do you mean by that? Can you give another example? Sorry, I'm not trying to be confrontational, just trying to understand this.
>>8824263Your image is lathered in packets of noise splotches. Up the CFG basically unless it's a CN gen which might require some weight and end step adjustments.
>>8824264This doesn't really explain it, but thanks for the tip, I'll try it out.
>>8824263It looks like it was originally made of stained glass, but somebody ran a strong blur filter on it to make it look anime.
>>>/v/732028930chat is this real
So? No one have tested Anima for henti?
>>8824292I couldn't even get the example image to work some torch size error.
>>8824292https://files.catbox.moe/7r9gts.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/33dwhe.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/zk6w85.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/jnr8d1.png
>>8824292I refuse to deal with cumragsoft.also even if it gets patched to a forge variant I won't bother unless it's trainable on kohya.
>>8824300All them only load a third for me.
>>8824300>>8824303We love partial loads around here.
>>8824300>>8824303>>8824304https://www.mediafire.com/file/wfa7h2y1y0zy8we/anima.7z/file
>>8824264I don't think it's CFG, looks more like a burnt lora maybe.>>8824265Zoom in on the guy's pants, it's the most apparent there. Even on a bad scan you would only expect to see shades of blue and maybe grey, but this has green and purple splotches all over. Usually means it's not denoising the image properly and something's wrong on a technical level.
>>8824292It's a preview of a base model, so it's rough but so far, I'd say I'm optimistic. I need to reroll a bunch and aesthetically it's not quite there yet. But prompt coherence and knowledge has been good.I think the big thing with models for me is how well it can manage details for characters. Right now, I'd say it's a middle ground between Illustrious and NovelAI's 4.5 model. Belle as an example, it usually gets there should be a green zig-zagged bracelet and necklace but regularly mixes up the shape and size. It knows it wants 3 stacks of repeated text on the shirt, but can't quite nail the 元オ子 text. Stuff like that.
>>>/v/732040461what caused this
What can the bwos tell me about this SA-Solver sampler? Recently switched my workflow up a bit and ol' reliable dpm++ 3m sde just didn't look quite right with some mixes. Tried a few and really gacha rolling some great pulls with Solver.
Anima NSFW gens?
>>8824305huh
is this da thread bwos?
>>8824426it's troll dupe
>>8824410eh, I had to update comfy to get the qwen v6 TE working and it broke my install, as updating always doesapparently Transformers itself now requires huggingface-hub library to start, even if you're using it offline
>>8824410In general, it seems a bit worse than WAI. But its prompt comprehension is better when it works. It doesn't work every time though. It prompted for full body from above.
>>8824432So what's the point? Why even waste compute on crap that's worse than what we already have?
>>8824433The guy is still training it. The preview version is trained only on 512px images. Seems like he plans to do 1024px as well.
>>8824432WAI is not a finetune, not a valid point of comparison
>>8824434I mean even if the training finishes it'll still be SDXL with slightly better prompt comprehension. Why not spend the compute on something with actual promise like ZIT or Klein, or better yet wait for a base model of that caliber and speed but with visual reasoning (aka the thing that makes Nano Banana Pro so ridiculously good) and finetune that?
>>8824437The more parameters, the more compute needed, the higher it costs to train. The anima guy apparently wants to recover some money from this model because it's non-commercial. Also, why release preview? I bet he's already quite constrained in money and wants to get at least some attention to justify additional investments.
>>8824429it just feels deader than usual. i wonder if it's the captcha or the random ip bans.
Do you think big J would have posted here if his handlers didn't suicide him in prison?
>>8824437>it'll still be SDXL with slightly better prompt comprehensionsounds good to me
>>8824448Ep-kun was /u/fag, doe
>>8824449You're thinking WAY too small if that sounds good to you, SDXL is downright archaic by today's standards.
>>8824451NAI v4.5 is also a 2B model.
>>8824452I'm talking less about size and more about using 4B or 8B LLMs for TE instead of CLIP or sub-1B lobotomites, native image reference/edit and visual reasoning. By those standards, NAI v4.5 is barely above SDXL (it only has image reference over it but it's implemented in a hacky and restrictive way that degrades both performance and quality).
>>8824448he would be all over /ddg/ and trolling /edg/ like the best of us.
>>8824410Some same-prompt comparisons, with noob v-pred 1.0 on the right. so at least the booru knowledge is alright and it follows prompts, and visuals are okaymight try something more interesting laterif >>8824434 is true then its biggest potential advantage with the VAE won't be visible until the full res train, half res entirely negates the lower compression
Why don't we just train our own model?
>>8824468Training is exceptionally expensive.
>>8824468Training a single 2B model from scratch costs about $250k in compute only. And you won't get a good result from one shot. AceStep guys wasted 5 million for their 2B music model and had a dozens failed runs.
>>8824439Comfy org is funding it, I think he will be fine moneywise.
>>8824474But I'm angry now, not when I have 250,000 American
>>8824468why is it so grey?
>>8824468can i haz ur compute? :3
>>8824452>>8824455How do you know all that. You got the v4.5 source code or what?
so sick of this... why are these faggots still talking about epstein?
>>8824484You can have my 5090 if you give me the dataset.
>>8824465How are sex scenes and prompting multiple characters with distinct features? Like a cooperative paizuri with two very different looking girls and features not blending together?It's like the only thing I'm missing on SDXL as regional prompting or Attention Couple are a pain
>>8824451What are you missing on Illustrious/Noob?
>>8824533Mostly just the three things I mentioned in >>8824455. Basically, an NSFW-capable Nano Banana Pro that understands booru tags in addition to NL. This might sound like a big ask but ZIT/Klein are pretty close to non-Pro Nano Banana and Klein specifically is only really missing visual reasoning. These would solve the three main problems with the current models:>bad prompt comprehension the second something complex is going on (tag bleeding, who's doing what to who, where on the image, etc)>need to rely on LoRA crutches for styles/characters/concepts the model doesn't know (good luck generating obscure stuff; no I won't waste hours of my time and effort on training LoRAs myself)>no innate understanding of or ability to reflect on and steer what it's generating
>>8824533burnice white
>>8824255Damn I wish some monster cumslut drain my balls out
>>8824546https://litter.catbox.moe/5k1fcugbqrcxo3zq.png
>>8824468Great idea. I'll start working on the logo.
>>8824449the NLP understanding of this model is VERY good, it's a lot more than just "slightly better" relative to XL
>>8824558The lack of edit mode and visual reasoning make it only a minor upgrade in the grand scheme of things. Keyword "and" because edit mode by itself is just a gimmick and visual reasoning can't exist without the edit mode, but together they're insanely powerful as proven by Nano Banana Pro and how mediocre base Nano Banana is in comparison.
>/ldg/ made the most popular UI>/ldg/ trains their own anime modelWhat did /hdg/ do?
>>8824597schizomaxx hard
>>8824474>and had a dozens failed runsand he got lucky
imagine if you had a dick that was taller than you.
how are you actually supposed to find good artist mixes. do people just stick random names together until they find something that they like
I'm angryangry about GOBLINS
>>8824613Or like an artist before using AI and then just try him out. Or find something cool looking and train a lora on that, artist or not.Also, after a while you sort of get a feel for how styles tend to mix and if a style is likely to work well or not, just by looking at it.
>>8824532Do you mean without using regional? And not named characters, since I already showed that.Tried boomer prompting despite the cringe:>girl on the left has red hair and blue eyes, girl on the right has green hair and yellow eyes10/10 success ratenoob failed twice in a row so I didn't continueI'm guessing it's the Qwen TE doing this.
>>8824613start with some yd_(orange_maru) then add a little yd_(orange_maru) and top it off with yd_(orange_maru)
where are the hi lites?
/hdg/ was the cradle of early AI model development, and now its quality pales in comparison to literally every other AI general. The decline is so bad it's not even funny. I miss the old days. I'll take everyone Emma Watson-ing again and take greasy, sloppy Waifu Diffusion back if it means we'll get quality discussion again.
why is g-forcefag like this
>>8824641>if it means we'll get quality discussion againdiscussion on exactly what?
why has image quality here gone down in recent months? arent anime models getting better?
>>8824694>arent anime models getting better?Nigger our current best model came out in late 2024 on a late 2023 architecture, shit's been stagnant for YEARS.
>>>/v/732079224when vidgens will be on the level as the real japanese animas?
>>8824589Ah, yes, the ninja hole technique
>>>/v/732079812What causes this?
lets discuss everyone's favorite themes for bbc gens
>>8824734for me it's Sailor Mars, Tifa Lockhart and Hakurei Reimu
>>8824613you can tell after a while experimenting with some artist tags and mixing which are their strong, overriding elements, like, some tags will impart a lot to the scenery or contrast and color without changing the "style" too much (face, eye shape etc), while others are overpowering and will dominate a mix even when used at low strength (like ciloranko, bullfalk, ixy are all example of tags that dramatically alter the mix and will remain highly dominant vs other tags even when used at very low strengths). Some alter composition a lot (guweiz, alphonse, as109, boris for e.g)after a while you just know the sort of impact some tags have when mixed with others and what "utility" you want to combine. Want to make a picture both a little warmer and with thicker line art? bring in some "epm". Want some very flat coloring and simplification of style? bring in some "noruren" or "eluthel". Want to add a lot of painterly-ness to a mix that doesn't have an overpowering style ? add "hjl" (it doesn't alter basic shapes as much as ciloranko and has become my go to painterly mode). Need some high vibrancy coloring? ICHIMI. Like em big eyes? (ishikei:0.8)it's an autistic endeavor, you need to spend some time on this to develop your repertoirealthough, all this time can be spent for nuffin, these days I mainly use just one tag (akamirai) with nyalia lora at 0.2 as a stabilizer, that sketchy style really gets my dick hard just by itself, you don't have to artist race mix, one tag with a style you like and a low strength lora bludgeoning the model can do it finethough some style are highly unstable without some serious mixing on noob, ogipote for example is borderline unusable without some mixing alchemy.
>>8824742>even when used at very low strengthsI hate this so much. I'll have x other artists at like 0.7+ and one fucker at 0.2 and STILL be the one dominant style. Go any lower and it just might as well be removed. I need really need to stop wasting time shifting weights around so much and just delve into the prompt scheduling autism.
>>8824641/hdg/ was always a cesspool and made zero (0) contribution to AI model development and AI development in general.
>>>/v/732081875chat is this real
>>8824753The real pillarinos kept it tolerable. Once they left, (You) civeets had carte blanche to turn into the designated roadside squat zone that it now is.
/hdg/ is the cradle of bibici genning
for me it's the bobbleheads
>>>/pol/527544749what causes this
good morning sires
>wh*tesigh...
i dont like poop *shrug*
is the constant cross linking of other boards just some esoteric shitposting method or what exactly is the purpose of it
for me it's esoteric belly and chest
>>8824808yes
>>8824808no
>>>/out/2859885is this AI
any business ideas?
is jesus /aco/ or anime ("Eastern")
>>8824814blacked touhou sluts
>>8824816one blacked 2hu slut coming up!
>the creature (you)ed meeww
grawr >:3
>>8824753There were a few good loras that came out of here back in the day at least
wawaweewa...
>>8824839can local do thats?
>>8824845
>>8824853
>>8824856
>>8824664I had AI technology and LoRA/model discussion in mind specifically, but I guess that's more /g/'s thing now.>>8824753NAI was birthed from /hdg/, mind you
lollmao
This guy a prodigy. Wish he didn't have good opsec and I could copy his style
>melting dogshit with random butchered sfx>prodigythe absolute state of /hdg/
>>8824883How the hell does one even gen this???
>>882488625$
>>8824885>it's bad because.... because I say so!!!
>>8824893This can be AI. I refuse to believe it without a catbox
>goblinsgrrr...
ai has gotten insanely good recently
>>8824899>novelaithey have loras now?!
>>8824903highlights material
>>8824903such butiful background...
>>8824862>NAI was birthed from /hdg/, mind youakshually it's from /aids/
>>8824883Well I tried
>>8824911Her nipples are going to fall off...
>>8824911try geulimykun, seura isago, maron maron instead.
getting really fucking sick of seeing how much better novel ai is than local
how can we reverse the local decline and novelai incline?
seriously, where the fuck are the bobbleheads
didn't he move to /g/
who tf has 25 dollars these days
business idea: females if attractive (lolikon)
>>8824928Her age?
>>8824928This but getting the BBC
>>8824928and blacked
>>8824237I'm still waiting for an answer...
>>8824934yes, my nano banana gets hard to fizrotart
>>8824934I didn't read the conversation fully and thought you were asking about NAI's vibe transfer.
>>8824620impressive, and yeah, that's exactly what I'd been missing with SDXLlooking forward to full Anima model now
>>8824410>>8824465>>8824942P-pancho.. *cough* p-panchito.. we're starving out here.. onegai..
>>8824945pancho would rather shit on your faces. rightfully so
>>8824946Enough with the bbc posting.
>>8824809TOT https://files.catbox.moe/8psute.png
>>8824507hmmmm, nyo.
>>8824935look at this guy, his banana is nano sized lmao kek
yep, anima is peak and future of local hentihttps://litter.catbox.moe/0kk76d10ump9x8od.jpg
Least ugly lolipedo gen be like
>>8824620Can it do something like this NAI demo?>1girl, white background, sundress, light, looking at viewer, full body, top aesthetic. There are five objects. A single red cube made of rough grained wood. A single blue ice cube is placed on top of the red cube. A purple metal cylinder is lying on top of the red cube, next to the ice cube to the left. A shiny golden pyramid is placed on top of the blue cube. A single translucent green jelly blob with dot eyes lies to the left of the red cube, just next to it. The girl is standing on the white ground to the right of the red cube. The image is titled "Composition" at the top center. Highly finished. Still life. Character Study. rating:general, amazing quality, very aesthetic, absurdres. Text: Composition
>>8824968here you go, first genfailed the pyramid on top, but still not bad for an undertrained preview model. has potential
>>8824971That's pretty good, yeah.
>>8824971>for an undertrained preview modelThat may even be helping things. It will not be trained on geometric shapes but anime porn, we'll see if this knowledge/ability remains intact.
>>8824971Could you try reproducing this one too? I guess you'd have to rewrite the prompt in a different way though.>2girls, text, english text, location, -1::monochrome, speech bubble, simple background ::, looking at another, masterpiece, best quality, rating:general. The blonde girl is excitedly asking "How are you?" and the purple haired girl is responding "Fine, thanks" with a bored expression on her face. Text: How are you?>Fine, thanks>| 1girl, purple eyes, short hair, ruffled blouse, red blouse, blonde hair, green scarf, blunt bangs, fang, small breasts, long sleeves, bob cut>| 1girl, very long hair, purple hair, curly hair, golden shirt, full body, green eyes, turtleneck sweater, sleeveless turtleneck, side braid, medium breasts, sleeveless
>>8824977quick slop test. didn't bother to add any artists. also didn't add "2girls" so maybe that's why it's a 2koma
>>8824979Cool stuff.
>>8824613just imagine them blended in your head then test
nai shills got real quiet all of a sudden
have fun with your preview model for the next 6 months localkeks
>>8824966Maybe Anima is good, but pedo hentai is bad in any case.
>>8824979not bad... for local! but nai's advanced character architecture is above everything else out there. see: failed to get side braid right
>>8824992Comparing this with NAI is an insult for NAI.
>>8824992>above everything else out thereNano Banana Pro mogs the shit out of NAI for anything that isn't NSFW while not even being a dedicated anime model.
i may be a retard but how the FUCK do i download the anima preview
>>8824995nope because it doesn't have a dedicated character architecture. unless the latents are properly sorted you cannot guarantee no bleed. nai guarantees no prompt bleeding because they have a specialized architecture to prevent it.
>>8824997You haven't used either Nano Banana Pro or NAI, or you're just trolling. I've been using NAI since v3 and tags still often bleed between characters, whereas Nano Banana Pro does exactly what you ask of it with minimal prompting and just basic reference images thanks to its visual reasoning.
what activated the NAI shills
>>8824967what's the ugliest?
>>>/g/108039484Is this true?
why does this guy keep trying to shill nano banana pro on a hentai board when it cant do nsfw? is this a joke or something?
Nano Banana Pro is probably the best model in the worldbut NovelAI is still in the top 5
>>8825008NBP is good, but I'm pretty sure it's just ironic shitposting, just like >>8824997 is.
Can we get an update on the training status of Cascade?
>>8825008I'm not shilling the model, I just want people to realize that any model that isn't aiming to match its capabilities (specifically visual reasoning) would be obsolete on arrival. Why bother with preparing datasets for and training LoRAs when simply attaching a reference image does the same in the fraction of the time and effort? Why reroll dozens of times till RNGesus blesses you when the model cold iteratively evaluate and fix its own output? We shouldn't be aiming for or be satisfied by "SDXL but slightly better" when we could be aiming for an actual generational leap.
>>8825009>but NovelAI is still in the top 5Wrong.
>>8825014w-where are the local models????
>>8825014>no good anime modelsuseless
>>8825018Flux is on there, have you seen how well it can do an anime girl holding a sign that says various sentences?
>>8825013>when we could be aiming for an actual generational leap.but its not a leap at all if it cant do hentai, thats what we call a regressioni dont give a shit how well a model can do various geometric shapes stacked on top of each other, that does nothing to help make me cum
>>8825018Nano Banana Pro is there. Have you seen what it can do with reference images?
>>8825021I'm not telling you to go use NBP to generate NSFW, my point is that new NSFW models/finetunes should be aiming to match its capabilities instead of settling for archaic 3-year-old architectures. Klein is most of the way there already, only missing visual reasoning at this point, so why not wait for it or some other model to implement the last missing piece and work off that?
>>8825024>so why not wait for itbecause i use novel ai so i dont have to take this standard advice that everyone on local has been coping with for the past 3+ yearstwo more weeks for that perfect anime finetune!!
>>8825025NAI is barely better in the grand scheme of things and I say this after having extensively used it since v3.
>>8825024there isnt even a local model that good to serve as a base, and 99% of local either gens through civitai or their 3060. local can't even come together to tune a model bigger than 6b like qwen, and dont get started on klein 9b because localkeks are absolutely terrified by bfl's licensing. 4b is dogshit btw
>>8825024lol
>>8825028Klein 9B runs perfectly fine on my 3080, about as fast as SDXL with upscaling. If its TE was Qwen3-VL instead of the non-vision base Qwen3, enabling visual reasoning, it could've served as that good base.
honestly its way more enjoyable to wait for the prospect of a good hentai model than ever actually genning any hentai
>>8825033frfr
>>8825033this and shitposting about nai too
>>8825032local is poor, have you not seen the absolute state of finetuning? name the local bakers right now that you think will finetune klein 9b. lax? he's still making grey eps sdxl finetunes like chenkin noob. the chroma furry lodestone? he's training right now at 256x256 resolution because he's that broke. there are plenty of 'good base' models but nobody will ever have enough funds to train them, and that's not even getting into the part where nsfw edit datasets are basically nonexistent so the entire edit part of klein would go completely wasted
>>8825022I'm still waiting to see nano banana fizrotart.
>>8825033>y-y-you don't gen anything!!!It's precisely BECAUSE I gen every day and have to put up with simply not being able to do certain things that I want something better than a meager improvement over the shit I've been stuck with for the past 3 years.
>>8825037We have comfy now. He unironically has more money than NAI.
>local NSFW textgen 3 years ago>7B lobotomites at 0.5 tokens/s>local NSFW textgen now>30B MOE behemoths with vision and tool usage at 30 tokens/s>local NSFW imagen 3 years ago>SDXL>local NSFW imagen now>SDXL... but slightly less shit... in two more weeks
>>8825043>text gen is less complex than image genholy shit...bros this anon might be onto something
>>8825043It's qwen in all but the tiny Unet. What's the base model underneath anyway? Or is it actually trained from scratch.
>>8825044wrong, the actual reason is that text gen isn't censored the same way image gen is. nobody needs finetunes for llms, you can get smut even out of api ones. but image models are dependent on finetunes which is why they're dead.
>>8825046Suppose if you wanted textgen of specific anime characters and keeping them in-character, that would be the equivalent.
>>8825024Let's say you have compute and a small open source visual reasoning model that you want to finetune. You finetune it on the usual danbooru dataset. Now it has catastropically forgotten most of its reasoning abilities, because you didn't have any data for that in your finetuning dataset, and you had to train it a lot so it actually learns styles and characters.
>>8825043>NSFWThis is your problem. Remove that and you will see the great leap forward that models have been doing in these years.If all you know is NAI, then yeah, you will think we're still with a slightly less shitty SDXL.
>>8825049You can just dump an episode script and wiki entry into context or whatever.
>>8825051>Remove that and you will see the great leap forward>remove literally the only important part of any image gen model???
>>8825051Anime then? Do these models know many characters and styles? Yes? No. They are not relevant for /h/.
>>8825049you just describe the characters to it really, that's how it always worked. the llm community has never begged for finetunes or sat around waiting for 2 years still using llama2 or w/e because there are always new nsfw-capable models being released.
oh, is it time for another round of /hdg/ retarded faggots using slop shitmixes like wai to give their opinions on how to create a perfect anime diffusion model?
>>8825056Feel free to give your own opinion.
>>8825053Yeah, how is fine-tuning on anime a technological advance? It's just serving a niche and nothing more.
you're still using butter knives to spread your pb on your sammich??you guys lmaowe have these things called chainsaws nowthey cut much fasterfucking butter knives lmaoso dumb
them fuckin localkeks man
local cant even advance past where novel ai was a year ago and these kids are talking about huge leaps in tech lol
I'm gonna bait... and it's gonna be epic...
>local image gen general>no image gen happeningpoetry
why does hdg
Did anyone else notice that the troll farm has a pro-NAI bias?
>local image gen generalwhermstve?
bbc?
noticed how nai is inherently jewish?
>>8825071>>>/g/ldg
Anima is the first time I'll buy into the "next illustrious" hype.The preview is actually incredible.
>>8825075>"next illustrious"What an astutely apt description, just not in the way you intended.
can you guys fund illustrious 3.5 already
>>8825075yeah anima is pretty great, just wish it was slightly faster. SDXL gens take 15 seconds, anima gens take 40 despite the model being smaller
>>8825075Stop pissing off the local NAImelties, this general was just starting to die
local is having an NAImeltie? i can tell
I got banned from fbi.gov websiteShould I worry?
Can't wait for Anima to destroy NAI, just two more weeks until total local domination!
>>8825097rip
um....gens?
>>8825111BASED BASED BASEDive been waiting for 3 years already for local to beat novel ai so whats another two weeks
Anyone with Anima set up mind testing a little something?>portrait aspect ratio>guy is sitting on the edge of a bed>girl #1 is kneeling on the bed behind the guy and pressing her breasts into his back/elbow while hugging him, his head is turned back and he's kissing her>girl #2 is mostly off-screen, lying on her stomach on the bed, her head is on the guy's lap and she's sucking his dickShit was impossible to prompt on SDXL derivatives, tags alone are just insufficient.
>>8825118is it possible on NAI?
>>8825124Everything is.
>>8825113Go to /edg/ if you are so easily entertained, we are discussing how local will finally destroy NAI v3 once and for all.
inc novel ai seethe
it only took 8 loras and 10 hours of rerolls but we finally got some rotoscoped slop
CALLED IT!!!!!
>>8825135Only 1 LoRA, 562 seconds and 1 try, actually.
>>8825132>>8825134>>8825135>>8825136why would he samefag like that
It's still shitposting, even if you're being ironic.
uh ohI'm blue balling again
which character should i blacked today
>>>/g/108026070Where were you when this happened?
where are the dicky drippy gens
>>8825149can you please gen Asuka and Marge Simpson getting blacked together thank you
>>8825155okay which one do i make the black?
>>8825151hehe
>>8825118>Anima set upjust install Comfy and it worksAnyway I tried your "prompt" as-is and even the big Qwen couldn't do it, this one just makes deformed non-humans. Fixing it up and adding in some relevant tags got me close, but it's still a mess and very unreliable.It's way faster and easier to doodle some human-blobs for img2img than to narrow down a prompt like this, even if id did end up working in the end.
>>8825172A complete nothingburger of a model then, just as I thought.>It's way faster and easier to doodleNigga I use imagen so I DON'T have to draw.
>>8825040pick up a pencilrino
>>8825220I wouldn't need AI if it was that simple.
>>8825051>better A.I generated cat videos and wizard hamster! oh heck yes.
>>8825222come on bwo. it's easier than ever before to create any kind of sexy henti.draw > img2img > inpaint gen > draw > inpaintdraw > gen > photobashdraw > inpaint > owl meme
>>8825172>anatomy
COWGIRL POV ME ONE MORE TIME
>>8825273do it yourself
FINE, geez...
It's out! https://blog.novelai.net/precise-reference-release-character-style-references-reference-inpainting-175d69e44cfa
>>8825295this is such fucking bullshit
>>8825295Oh and you can now inpaint while using character and style references!
>>8825295>something that's a native consequence of edit mode in any modern imagen model is touted as an exciting new feature by naiggerslmao...
>>8825303Can your precioous modern imagen model do hentai or does it have an extensive innate knowledge of arttist style? Huh you actually means that it's sanitized slop for normgroids and it can't even put girls in bikini or replicate styles and characters protected by IP laws??? That's wild!
>>8825303>edit mode in any modern imagen modewhat the fuck is edit mode???
>>8825303Still waiting for that Nano Banana Pro fizrotart style.
>>8825306A replacement for LoRAs. You can attach from 1 to 3 pictures to your prompt and tell the model what to do with them. Transferring styles, swapping/adding characters - whatever you can think of can be done with just images and ZERO LoRAs or crutches.
>>8825303noob has edit mode? how do I use it?
>>8825310>image2image and ipadapter are touted as exciting new features by localpoorslmao...
>>8825313These are the crutches I was talking about. They're clunky to use, degrade quality and are limited in what they can do.
>>8825316waow just like every local snakeoil!
Ok, I concede to you, anon. It does show promise.https://files.catbox.moe/uskunt.png
>>8825318>1girl, standing:\>1girl, standing, holding sign:o
>It can easily make instant loss with little effort out of the box.Interesting.>>8825323I know, I know. But what I meant is how obedient it is. Style leaves much to be desired, but that's what lora training is for.
>>8825324Instant loss is pretty easy to do on noob too.
>>8825326nice butthole >:)
>>8825310Did you manage to get any use out of the local options? I've experimented with Qwen Edit but it usually just returns the input image. Have yet to try Flux2.Judging by what the big saas models are capable of it's definitely the right direction to go in, but still pointless without a nsfw finetune of an uncensored model
>>8825340Flux 2 Klein 9B is ok-ish. Does well enough with simple stuff ("Replace girl A on image 1 with girl B from image 2 while keeping the pose and clothes") but sucks at anything even remotely complex due to the lack of visual reasoning, see >>8823245. If only it had Qwen3-VL for TE...
>>8825344Using a VL as TE won't give you visual reasoning for free. To do reasoning, you'll need to do sampling on your VL, and it needs to be trained to do reasoning that's useful for image editing.
>>8825346In the end it still just produces a prompt for the imagegen model, one that a zen prompt master could have produced by hand.
>all this technobabble and all the hours wasted trying to get it to work when you could just spend $25
>>8825347>imagegenEdit, not imagen. Though in modern models these are one and the same. And the whole point is to make output more consistent out of the box: instead of doing the fixing manually, you offload it to the VLLM.
>>8825309kritty lives and is Epstein confirmed.
>there's a goblins general-.-
Is anyone still noticing that the troll farm is very single-minded pro-NAI?
>shills already have been deployed to /trash/ and /v/*sigh*
>>8825392Oh. Oh yes. Very good. /hdg/ does be healing.
>>8824181hey is there a board here for working on hentai games? i remember there used to be a Slave trainer general on /aco/ a while back, finally getting to work on it and need some people to actually talk to and bounce ideas off
>>>/v/732169170what caused this
the cause? lack of bibici
>>8825416>leaked picture of g-forcefag
giving them access to the internet was a mistake
>>8825424she's my pillar
anima reps
>>8825427why is he white
>>8825427ok but can you try to do something that we can't on any SDXL shitmix
g-force anon is a... GIRL?!
if it can't make the juiciest most suckable bbcs it's not a real advancement
do you need to use comfy for anima or can you just use reforge, i'm having errors loading the modeli hate using comfy it's so annoying
>>8825427pretty impressive saliva and precum strings
>>8825434Yes it's only available on the state of the art image gen platform, ComfyUI.
>>8825434you need a very recent version of comfy, to support the new Qwen TE it's usingI have not heard any mention of forge support
Benchod basterds :D
>>8825441hell yeah dude
>>8825441good old amazing sdxl shitmix
ded thred
>my pillar has been posting gay content on his non gay twitternyoooo...
>>8825464she was never a pillar
who are you talking about, post link!
>>8825468goatfag probably
Holy shit it's called anima, like anime but with an A at the end!
ywnbap
nobut I can be a cater-pillar! ~~~~~~:s
kys darknesssubhuman
how did you know it was me? what the hellget out of my walls
Clitty monthly status?
>>>/v/732180718chat, is this real
ded
>>8825295mr metachs please do the needful
>>8825295aaaaand just like that local is dead againNovelAI proving they can demolish local any time they want. This is why I sub
>>8825538This, I don't even gen that much anymore but knowing that my money goes towards actually pushing the boundaries of anime hentai image gen tech instead of threading water on the same antiquated failbake is why I keep my sub active.
>>8825538>>8825539these but unironically
Is it over for me if I have a gtx 1070?Would Anima not run on that all?
Anima seems like a pretty alright middle ground between V3 and V4, I'm happy for you localkeks.
>>8825550For me running it takes up 7.1gb vram, including Windows11 crap. Should be fine.The Unet is in fact smaller than SDXL was, but because of the lower VAE compression it's like you're genning in double resolution at all times. The text encoder is larger, but that can be unloaded after encoding the prompt.
>>8825555I'll give it a shot then, thanks
business idea: nihongo animas
Anima is fun and shows promise, but it takes me 3 minutes for one gen :)
>>8825588How little VRAM do you have?
>>8825593only 8, this is me >>8825550my gtx 1070 is having it roughI should probably get a used 3060 with 12gb
the prompt adherence in anima is quite good
>>8825588With fp16 patch?
>>8825604I've not tried thatthis one? https://civitai.com/models/2356447?modelVersionId=2652286
>>8825605Probably:>>>/g/108046858>>>/g/108046861>>>/g/108046918
Lumina looking pretty good so far, excited for full release. Will probably try it out tomorrow myself. Got a tensor error on the example image so may need to do an update which I hate.
>>8825606I'll give it a shot
it's over, I can't get assisted paizuri to work on animaI got this on ONE seed and it's not even entirely what I wanted, other ones it just gives me one character
>>>/g/108033507Can I get a source for this claim?
>spend all your money on a troll farm>forget to release a fine-tuneThis is getting sad.
>>8825606tried it but it didn't do anythingI don't think the 1070 has support for fp16
>>8825609don't know what you wanted, quick slop prompt
>>8825625very nice, something in that vein yeahmind sharing your prompt? maybe my prose just sucks
>>8825627i feel like you need to be quite literal with model like this.https://litter.catbox.moe/bedvhfxw0v4ski1n.pngthis model feels like a breath of fresh air.
>>8825630ah your prompting is so much cleaner than mineand yeah it is so much fun being able to experiment beyond static danbooru tags
>>8825625What about guided penetration or fellatio?
>>8825635funny you asked
>>8825636holy fucking shit did local finally win??
>>8825636kino expressions
>>8825630What does the ModelSamplingAuraFlow node do?
>>8825640it does... something? i don't think you're supposed to use it with anima. but it changes seeds. if i understand it correctly, in sd3 or other dit models it gives the model more time to get the composition right, sacrificing the details. don't know if it even works for anima.
>>>/v/732203608chat, are japs the jew of anime?
>>8825630That's not terrible as far as NL prompting goes I guess, beats LLMslopped walls of text so many other models require.
what is the nai shill cope going to be this time?
>>8825641I see
>>8825657Their dogshit style/character reference hack.
>local keeps getting new models, finetunes and a bunch of things to look forward to:^(>nais gets a broken paid controlnet + inpaint:^)
Kurumuz stay winning and yall keep seething!
new model out and you faggots continue to stir shit instead of playing with it.insane.you guys don't have a gpu?
>>8825682I don't want to use cumragUI, I'll rather grind materials on MHW tbqh
>>8825685eh, fair reason.
>>8825682I'm waiting for the full release. I don't use no half-baked models.
>>8825687This. Using Anima now is like using Illustrious pre-Noob. I mean you can but why the hell would you past the initial inspection?
fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck, it's sooooooo anime
>>8825696I fuck like this
where are the gens
>>8825696Ficale indeed
>>8825682I don't use comfy and I never willI'll use it if it is ever usable on actual GUIs built to be used by human beings
I haven't been focused on local image generation in a while, can someone give me a quick rundown about Flux/Z-Image and how that compares to alternatives? All I know about Flux is that it works with natural language prompts.
Good morning sirs! :^)
>>8825736More of Him?
>>8825733>Z-ImageSDXL but way better and somehow faster. Nothing fancy though, just a much more competent imagen model.>FluxSlower than Z-Image and of arguable quality but one step closer to SOTA imagen models thanks to one nifty feature - edit mode. It's i2i, LoRAs, ControlNet, IP-Adapter and countless other sorts of snake oil streamlined into one easy to use, native feature with no jank - you just upload between 1 and 3 images and describe what you want done with them. But on its own it's just neat and not much more, real power comes from combining it with VLLMs to achieve visual reasoning where the model sees, evaluates and steers what it generates in a feedback loop of sorts as it goes to massively improve the quality and consistency. Klein is still missing that piece of the puzzle.
>>8825739> FluxAnd next level vae.
>>8825739Thanks, I'll probably give both a try and see how it goes. I've only got 12GB of VRAM though so doubt i can run anything but Klein for Flux.
/visual reasoning/i
>>8825750Yeah, that guy is retarded.
>>8825751Explain why visual reasoning is le bad without sounding like a butthurt NAIgger shill.
I've been testing the quality tags on Anima and masterpiece, best quality and good quality seem to be worth usingThe score tags just seem to add smooth shading>>8825759sexo, very nice and smooth motions
>>8825758It's not bad, you just don't understand how it works.
>>8825770Really? Isn't it the VLLM looking at the imagen model's output and correcting it/focusing on certain aspects? I mean that's what the reasoning transcripts imply. Obviously the two are one model and are quite a bit more closely integrated than separate models would be but that should be the general gist.
>>8825772The "reasoning transcripts" you see are purely cosmetic...
>>8825777Proof?
>>8825778ask gemini about it and it will straight up tell you
>>8825779>ask an LLM about how it itself worksAnon I...
>>8825772Another funny aspect, at least with Nano Bana Pro, is that it can't even see the fine details during reasoning, because it processes everything at a very low resolution first for performance reasons and finally upscales. That's why pixel level details always change.
>>8825778People kept distilling reasoning traces, so all big labs have started replacing them with cosmetic ones that don't really show you what's going on. Some are more cosmetic, some more like summaries of the actual reasoning.
>>8825781That's fine though, it's enough to consistently get compositions that make sense instead of having to roll the dice over and over again.
You could just do agentic visual reasoning yourself if you can run a VLM and an edit model. It doesn't need to be part of the model.
>>8825786That's a hack, not a solution. You need to load two LLMs at once (VLMM and the edit model's TE), it can't work with the latent space so the performance would suck as you'd need to complete a full-res gen at each step and there's no guarantee it would produce good results in the first place since they would be two completely unrelated models duct taped together rather than a coherent tandem built from the ground up.
You could just pay 25 dollars.
>>8825788NAI has none of what's being discussed, not even an edit mode. You can ONLY reference characters and styles. Not poses, not concepts, not anything else.
>>8825789That's true, you don't need an edit mode when your images come out great every time.
>>8825790They simply don't, I've been using v4.5 to gen all sorts of complex compositions since it released and the only way it's better than local out of the box is regional prompting and source# target# mutual# macros. It's still a small unthinking unseeing SDXL-sized model that can do imagen and absolutely nothing else at its core. Anything more complex than 1boy, 1girl takes dozens of rerolls.
>>8825791>Anything more complex than 1boy, 1girl takes dozens of rerolls.So you haven't used Novel AI at all.
>>8825793Is that why searching for CHAR_ in my gens folder gives nearly ten thousand results? Or what's the next cope gonna be, it doesn't count if it was genned through the extension/API instead of the dogshit website?
>>8825801>uses illegal 3rd party tools>complains that the gens aren't perfectretard
>>8825804There's literally no difference.
>>8825805There literally is lol
>>8825806Make a gen through the extension, then make the same gen with the same prompt, the same seed and the same scheduler on the website. They will come out EXACTLY identical. If they don't, compare the metadata with the PNG Info tab and see what's different, then fix it and do it again. But we both know you won't do shit because you're a gaslighting troll who doesn't actually use NAI.
>>8825787Visual reasoning is unrelated to latent space/TE, retard.
>>8825801When someone says "great every time" or any other obvious hyperbole like that they're baiting.
>>8825801>I USE NOVEL AI ALL THE TIME>hasn't genned an image since before v4.5 released>pretends he is an expertlol you cant make this shit up, you really are a retard and you are too stupid to even realize how you just owned yourself
>>8825814they're european. that's november/december, just 2-3 months ago.I understand they have a significantly worse date syntax but please use context clues and learn how to fucking read, retard.
>>8825816>immediate goalpost moveyup, its a local troll
pancho do the needful and make anima work on your GUI plox
>>8825811>unrelated to latent spaceThere's no way NBP does NOT see the latent space, or else it would be way slower if it had to wait for a full image to be generated on each step. It's not like you need much more than latent space to make coarse adjustments, the composition comes out pretty clear after just a few steps as can be seen in both WebUI and Comfy if you enable previews.>TEThe TE IS the LLM in modern imagen models, even Anima uses a tiny Qwen quant. Make it a VLLM instead, train it on how to do editing/reasoning and it'll be doing the reasoning itself without the need for another LLM.
let me know when anima has the equivalent of vibe transfer
> #777.20w14∞What causes this?
>>8825822There's no need for it to see latent space. It just runs on a very small image. Sure, if you already have a VLM, you can use it to make your TE too, but you don't have to. It doesn't give you any specific benefit.
>>8825824Vibe transfer is a shill phrase.
>>8825833vibe transfer is incredible and im glad more people dont use it so i can make more money on patreon
>>8825841Normal people call it by the non-shill phrase: style transfer.
>naigger is a griftniggerMany such saars.
>>8825831>There's no need for it to see latent space. It just runs on a very small imageThat would only work if the denoiser (or whatever else they're using if it's not a diffusion model; I know GPT uses a different architecture) is resolution-agnostic (assuming the same aspect ratio). On SD-type models, just changing the resolution while keeping every other setting the same changes the image wildly so it'd NEED to see the latent space if you want it to run reasonably fast and are content with reasoning on only large-scale details/composition (which is all that matters, small details can simply be inpainted with little problem).
>>8825853You shouldn't project SD-based skill issues on NBP. That aside, its higher resolution outputs are very clearly upscaled by a lot, which is done after the image is done generating.
for what it's worth, I'm glad we're talking about the tech again instead of the usual bait
fuck off to /g/ this is a thread for bibici hentai gens
Yeah, that kind of usual bait.
>nooo, you have to engage in off topic discussion!>le heckin baiterino!!!kys
i just bought a years worth of novel ai anyone have a list of all the best art mixes and prompts???
Anima is fun
>>8825893that shadow doesn't even look like a peeny...
>/hdg/ left 2 hours unattended...it's nyoveruuu~ u.u
>>8825920novel ai?
>>8825536
Summoning Metachs please send me your energy.
>>>/v/732236605what caused this
>>8825893this, finally we can get consistent futa gens locally. no need to pray for the model to give the dick to the correct girl.
year 2025, newest, highres,1girl, solo,@aoi_ogata, @nixeu, @poper_(arin_sel), @banana_oekaki, @mossacannibalis, painterly, impressionism, 3d, artist_collaboration,frieren from sousou no frieren, big breasts, mature female, she is holding a monster energy can in her left hand and a condom wrapper in her right hand, she is slightly chubby with white thighhighs and skindentation, looking at the viewer, she has red arm warmers, a choker, white hair, and a soft smile with a blush, her breasts are perky, and her pussy is wet with a cleft of venus. Behind her is a computer desk with a monitor, on the monitor is green text that says /hdg/, the text is only on the monitor. She has a keyboard and mouse, the perspective is close-up and she has a mole on her cheek. The wall has a clock.white border, letterboxed, outside border, red lighting, green lighting, subtle lightingAnima prompt adherence test, 1344x1024 raw gen no upscaling
>>8825957Rough, but it really is promising.
>>8825957Same prompt with Modare as the artist
holy shit i can't stop masturbating. anima is actually really fucking good bros. i think the decline is over.
business idea: western animas
>>8825789>edit modeis this what localkels call i2i/adetailer nowadays?>you can ONLY do everything you'd ever needyeah? yeahif you want to reference poses you can just i2i or sketch or inpaint. you don't need to reference concepts because they're baked in the base model>not anything elseyou don't even know what that anything else is lol you tried to move the goalpost in real time and failed that's hilarious
>>8825965don't you worry! degenerate furfags are already at the stage of pre-finetuning anima on your beloved e621 dataset!
>>8825801>none of that is proper NovelAI syntaxuh oh caught in whatever shit resolution local still upscales from like what, 768x?
>>8825968really?
>anima will be a saas model once it's done baking>local will only get the current training scraps >furries will pick it up and "finish" "training" it>local will eat it up and the cycle will repeat just like with noob and illustrious
ok but how are the bigs and blacks?
>>8825968speaking of, can anime do rusty trombone?
anima gopro finetune doko
localsissies how do we stop nai???
>>8825975yes, nigga
>>8825978from self-destructing themselves? why would we do that?
>>8825964>>8825935Also, way easier to gen ugly man sucking otokonoko's dick
>>8825981proofs
>>8825981retardedly easy now
why are the gays like this
>score_9, score_8what caused this
>>8825987completely subjective aesthetic scoring from a blind pontyfurfaggot
>>8825994yes, and why anima is using it
but can anima do bbc?
>>8825999can you fuck off?
man, ai trying into 2.9d is so uncanny and ugly. you either do 2d or real realism.
>>8826000answer the question
>>8826021i will not
:^(
>>8825969Insane cope lmfao, CHAR_ is the extension's syntax.
>>8826002Ayy lmao
>>8826026nice double clitoris retard, stop making fake metadata for your local slop to try and smear NAI
>>8826034Keep the cope up shill, I fucking wish FFM like this was at all possible on local.
gay
>>8826035local has better MMFs and gangbangs, tho
you can clearly tell it is NovelAI, because it's so fucking ugly
https://civitai.com/models/2256925?modelVersionId=2658495First Anima lora dropped, and of course it's from the goat Bakariso
>>8826042I'm not a cuck so I give absolutely zero shits about those.
>>8825957>>8825960based and sex
>>8826044he must be shitposting at this point, kek
>>8826044>https://civitai.com/models/2197517Is this a meme or something worth keeping an eye on?
>>8826048anima is the best local anime model rn
proofsd?
>>8826048We've tried the december version, check threads around that time. Json prompting is a pain without a custom UI element to support it, but those are out now. Main issue is it's undertrained and doesn't offer anything else. This character prompt thingy is useless for 1girl or for named characters, which is what most people gen.
>>8826053Dawg, you're thinking of an entirely different model (I'm guessing Newbie)
>>8826053>This character prompt thingy is useless for 1girl or for named charactersOn the contrary, I find it to be the best part of NAIv4.5 as it makes FFM gens possible, albeit still not very consistent. Does it also allow you to specify where on the image the characters should appear like NAI or is that still up to RNG? If so, it would be a damn shame for Anima to get all the attention when it still can't do complex compositions and for this to remain undertrained from the lack of interest.
>>8826055he linked newbie, so yeah
>>8826056anima has nothing like NAI's character thing, and 'natural language' prompting like "the girl on the left is wearing" collapses under pressure when you start scaling the tags and getting really specific. it's still better than XL at least
>>8826062>abysmal dogshit gets all the attention while actually promising stuff gets left in the dustMANY such cases, and grim.
>>8826066You're free to start funding newbie training, anon.
nothing ever happens
requesting yvonne (arknights) riding a huge bbc cock ty
Arknight Enfield
>>8826072can you fuck off?
>>8826076go back >>/hgg/
>>8826076why so upset?
why are tbpcels like this?
just two more weeks and a couple more finetunes and novel ai is finished, this time for real
https://litter.catbox.moe/b0reu9.webm
Not too shabby, I'll look forward to this model's career with great interest. This score shit is really stupid though if you're not going to explain what they are.
he should be black
what are you talking about, bbcjesh
>>8826088from my testing the score shit is entirely avoidabletry genning something simple with no negatives and doing one score tag at a time, and compare them to one quality modifier at a timescore 9, 8 and 7 are pretty comparable to best quality, good, quality and normal quality in that they improve anatomy and consistency, they just feature a different aesthetic quality modifiers seem to be more traditional anime with flatter shading while score tags come with softer shading
Cumrag is 100% required to use Anima right?
>>8826093currently, yeah
>>8826094Guess I'll have to wait. Or maybe try swarm.
you won't be convincing anyone without some dick dripping bibici gens
>>8826092then repeat the comparison with an actual style prompt in therein that case they don't do much at all
>>8826092>>8826101what the best neg for anima? >>8826096can you fuck off?
>>8826101that's probably true and I didn't think about doing thatI just wanted to see what was inherent to the tag>>8826103I just use>best quality, masterpiece, newestin pos>worst quality, censored, mosaic censoring, bar censorand in neg
why lil ytboi so angy
Anima really is fun
>>8826108Can you make it more ugly and grotesque?
>>8826109no, post some yourselfhttps://huggingface.co/circlestone-labs/Anima
can you make him more big and black
>>8826109epstein diddy ahh coded post
>>8826044Now that's a proper cringe
>>8826117How so?
does anima know burnice white?????
business idea: burnice white blacked
>>>/v/732200148what caused this
>>>/g/108057861>ChenkinNoob-XL-v0.2 Rectified Flow is officially released!NAI bros? It's over.
>>8826134that list of advantages sounds just like what I've been doing with v-pred for the past year and half
>>88261340 reasons to use this over anima
>>8826134>faster convergence!>better colors!>no greys!>better quality!!>with less steps!!!this just reads like snake oilthere's always a catchand with Anima being so good anything involving SDXL just feels like a waste of time and a downgrade
>>8826124>>8826127Yes it can do Burnice, and additionally I am feeling generous today
>>8826143im starting to see the potential...
Important news Anime people, new NoobAI update, very cool. 3/4>>>/g/108058302>>>/g/108057861
>>8826148we're in for some kinoSDXL always felt rigid
>>8826148Try doing something more complicated, like >>8826035. 1girl, 1boy is just not very impressive after so long.
>>8826151irrelevantsee anima
>>8826134give the gpus to the anima guy fags
>>8826154stop trolling, fucking retard>>8825636 (me)
>>8826148I remember genning this laying in bed, but maybe standing is impossible
>>8826151it's trained from noob eps on bluvoll's cherrypicked dataset, not even full danbooru
>>8826156why it's deleted
>>8826154>>8826158I tried it tooI love Anima
>>8826172Very nice, maybe it's not completely hopeless after all. How many attempts before and after finalizing the prompt?
help
>>8826173it was the first try actually, so maybe I just got lucky as I didn't do any other seeds>best quality, masterpiece, newest, @re0n,>2girls, threesome, 1boy, >one girl is juri \(part-time\) \(blue archive\) with her pink hair in a bun and brown demon horns. she is wearing a maid outfit with a low neckline. she is lying on her back getting her pussy fucked by a man with a thick penis, the second girl fuuka \(blue archive\) is kneeling next to juri and is grabbing and sucking on her exposed breast. yuri is orgasming with an expression of satisfaction and arousal on her face as she is getting fucked and her breast sucked, the composition is that of a pov from the man fucking juri looking down on both the girls, the setting is indoors in a kitchen with juri lying on a dinner table with fuuka kneeling beside her on the flooryou know, sharing boomer prompts is actually more embarrassing than danbooru tags
>>8826182Damn, that's impressively good for a first try. That NAI pic took me 66 tries over the course of 25 minutes including unfinalized prompts.
i fucking hate CFG
i hate anime
Did anyone figure out the hiresfix issue with anima? Only seen it mentioned in /e/ so far.
>>8826188that's a given on /hdg/
>>8826188same, except FF7 Remake and Expedition 33
>>8826189I still don't even know how to upscale on comfyui, does anyone know how to tile upscale with controlnet on comfyui like on reforge?
i hate lolikon
>>8826194fuck off
How long are anima gens gonna take on an 8gb card?I don't really mind if it's long I just want something new
ok
i love blacked
>>8826196vram doesn't matter. model is tiny. but expect x2-3 slowdown from sdxl
>>8826193You take your gen, do a Upscale Image (Using Model) and then lead that image through a tile controlnet which feeds into a second Ksampler that will sample your upscaled image with the help of the tile controlnetSort of like pic relYou set Cnet Strength, start percent, end percent and Ksampler Steps, CFG and denoise to taste>>8826196>>8826199this, it uses like 7gb for me, you can get the smaller model on civitai that only uses like 6 and you can get it to use 5 if you use the fp16 patchit's stupid slow regardless though as anon says, on my gtx 1070 it takes me almost 4 minutes to do 25 steps
>>8826199NTA but that would put the base gen time squarely in the ballpark of SDXL with Hires. fix by 1.5 times. Question is, do you NEED Hires. fix with Anima? Or rather will you need it by the time it finishes training, because you clearly do need it with the current underbake.
>>8826201oh and to add on the upscale topic, I have no idea how to upscale on Anima and if it needs its own tile controlnets or not, I'd assume so
>>8826196on a rtx 4070 ti super with 16gb, it takes around 17 secs for each gen.
>>8826202the current model is 512px. so if final is 1024px i don't think you'd need hiresfix .>>8826201>almost 4 minutes to do 25 stepsthat's rough. 2070 is 35 seconds.
>>8826205>that's rough. 2070 is 35 seconds.yeah, I'm looking at used gpus and shit is too expensiveAI is both a blessing and a curse
>>8826193Why is your first thought to go for tiled upscaling
>>8826205>the current model is 512px. so if final is 1024px i don't think you'd need hiresfix .That's reassuring to hear. I guess that's a much better VAE for you. Shame it was so compressed on SDXL that it just shat itself at small details so seeing an uncompressed VAE, by all accounts an average and unremarkable thing, seems impressive and groundbreaking.
>>8826201Note that this is Hiresfix supported by tile controlnet, not tiled upscaling. Completely different things.You also want to add an "Upscale Image By" set to Lanczos and ratio 0.5, if you only want to upscale by 2x and you're using a 4x ersgan model like in that pic. And lower controlnet strength/end step unless the CN was trained specifically on your model (it wasn't)
>>8826201thank you, anon. >>8826209that's how i've even upscaling on reforge for more than a year, so i'm used to do it that way. i know there are other methods like hiresfix but haven't used it for a while and have no idea how to do it on comfyui either.
>>8826148It is possible, but it takes some rerolls and some unintuitive prompting.
>>8826215but which is it >>8826214
Good morning sirs bloody benchods ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ
>>8826202Alright yeah I just decided to download comfy and try it out myself and you're pretty spot on. Takes about 30 seconds per gen but this is without any patches or tweaksFinally some new fucking models
>>8826194
>>8826233based
bee
>>8826235\(deadflow\)
I've been doing all of my Anima gens raw at 1024x1024 up to 1024x1344 and it's still working fine (for the anons asking about upscaling).
>>8826247Even when upscaling, it seems to be fine up to about 2mpix. Then it starts to break apart, even at very low denoise.
https://old.reddit.com/r/comfyui/comments/1qvt40c/comfy_1m_open_ai_grant_and_anima_model_launch/
>>8826258does this mean we are finally healing?
>>8826258holy based comfy
>>8826258>>8826262>$1mil later>nobody would care about this model at all if the weights weren't availableMASSIVE victory for NovelAI
>>8826258>>8826262Wonder about the timeline though. Days? Weeks? Months?
>cumfysigh... into the trash bin it goes
>>8826272Who cares who trains it? The best local model has been some zoophile's bake for a year.
do not suffer a cumfy shill to live
When is pancho getting off his ass and adding anima support to his UI? I don't wanna use c*mfy
>>>/v/732267653what caused this
>>8826235nono more bees u.u
where are the anima cowgirl pov gens????
blacked gacha whores, anima edition
let's not
So Anima knows more poses/concepts? What other advantages over Noob so far? Looks pretty sloppy (just like Noob) in terms of general gen quality and backgrounds, based on those gens.
anima if real
can anima do final fantasy 7 remake style?
anima screencap is the future
>>8826334It knows fewer poses and concepts by name, booru knowledge is somewhere around noob eps level and it doesn't have any e621.What it has is Qwen's TE, so natural language that actually works >>8824620And Qwen's VAE. It works like any 1024 trained model despite only training on 512res, because of halved compression. The full bake is to be at 1024, which should in theory remove the need for hiresfix and adetailer in most cases.I'm not sure about the looks, might be too early. We'll see in a few days as people figure out how to use it properly.
for me it's the jrpg screencap
>>8826342>so natural language that actually worksThat's nice, I'm sick and tired of tag prompting lol.
>>8826342Adding on to this, it's also trained on nearly one million images not from Dan/Gelbooru. It's noticeable when it comes to knowledge that falls outside of what you'd find on booru sites. I do wonder if these additional images had NSFW, because I'm getting some crazy concepts to work that definitely aren't something that's tagged on danbooru.>To improve style and content diversity, the model was additionally trained on two non-anime datasets: LAION-POP (specifically the ye-pop version) and DeviantArt. Both were filtered to exclude photos. Because these datasets are qualitatively different from anime datasets, captions from them have been labeled with a "dataset tag". This occurs at the very beginning of a prompt followed by a newline. Optionally, the second line can contain either the image alt-text (ye-pop) or the title of the work (DeviantArt).
>deviantart
anima nsfwhttps://www.turboimagehost.com/album/382405/animaaaaaaanima nsfw (flat)https://www.turboimagehost.com/album/382406/animaaaaaaaasome images should have metadata if you want it?
virus
>>8826355it is the new model? sucks that is comfy only, that program sucks
>>8826354based, i want 2000s emo style anime girls
>>8826355ip grabber
>>8826358They took only all the recent vore pics.
>>8826357Calm your tits, real UIs will implement its support soon. The sd-webui-classic guy is working on it already.
More schizo testing with Natural Languagemasterpiece, best quality, good quality, newest,@sattinittas, anime artwork by an artist,ubel_(sousou_no_frieren), fern_(sousou_no_frieren), faceless_male, 1boy, 2girls,uncensored explicit image,ubel_(sousou_no_frieren) has green hair, is squatting on the mans face, and she is wearing green panties with a white hoodie. fern_(sousou_no_frieren) has purple hair, she is performing fellatio on the mans penis on all fours, and she is wearing a blue bra with pink panties. The image is viewed from the side, and the mans chest is visible near the middle of the image. Both girls are slightly chubby with thick thighs and toenail polish.The scene takes place in a bedroom on a bed, in the background there is a computer with a monitor, chair, keyboard, and a kirby plushie stuffed animal.soft red outline surrounding each character in the scene, the wall in the background is greener_sde, 4.5 cfg, 30 stepsNegative:bad anatomy, film grain, jaggy lines, scan artifacts, worst quality, bad quality, jpeg artifacts, very displeasing, chromatic aberration, zoom layer, dithering, halftone, screentone, multiple views, comic, logo, too many watermarks, negative space, blank page, nostrils, @_@, glowing eyes, crazy eyes, mismatched pupils, muscular female, abs, ribs, text, patreon, artist name, web address, artist logo, watermark, signature
>>8826364>soft red outline surrounding each character in the scenethis is genuinely impressive
>23 seconds on a 3080Not too shabby, that's almost 50% faster than SDXL upscaled by 1.5 times (30 seconds).
So glad I stopped listening to hdg schizos and at some point finally swapped to Cumfy. Wasn't as hard as I thought really. No need to keep begging for days/weeks for the authors of all the other abandonware UIs to implement yet another compatibility anymore.
>>8826366damn that's niceI should get a used 3080, are you using a 10gb or 12gb one?
least obvious cumfy shill
>>882636912 GB, of course. I couldn't get it at launch due to the mining boom pricing me out of it and by the time prices stabilized in 2022 the 10 GB model was already superseded.
>>8826352Saw a guy on /e/ complaining that "dark skin" gives girls nig features because of the realism dataset.
>>8826372I see, I can barely find any 12gb ones, most I see are the 10gb version and they go for like 400€
>>8826374Common TBP fail.
the birate pay
full version of Anima + a couple months of loras, finetunes, and shitmixes from the community unironically kills NovelAI
but its already dead
>>8826374doesn't really matter, no one likes brown women anyway
that's alrightmore brownies for me >:)
there better be some tasty bibicis when im back u.u
>>8826397It's one of those fetishes that only work in hentai
back from where
>>8826397i'm No One
>>8826404just like blacked
It's really not as consistent/good at compositions as I would have hoped, took a good several dozen tries. Feels really finnicky, not sure if the finished version will be much better in that regard. The character knowledge is also just not there but that much is to be expected at this stage.https://files.catbox.moe/heptyv.png
>>8826368if you ever step foot into /ldg/ you will find its mostly 1 guy (ani) sperging and samefagging over it nonstop every day and he comes here as well
>anima completely lacks knowledge of any scat related tagHow am I supposed to fap to this?
>>8826432doesn't look like danbooru allows it
>>8826434Then they better train on the e621 dataset on top instead of wasting compute on fucking deviantart
chat, i miss farting on prey
i miss jordach
anime bias fix status
>>8826441>To improve style and content diversity, the model was additionally trained on two non-anime datasets: LAION-POP (specifically the ye-pop version) and DeviantArt. Both were filtered to exclude photos. Because these datasets are qualitatively different from anime datasets, captions from them have been labeled with a "dataset tag". This occurs at the very beginning of a prompt followed by a newline. Optionally, the second line can contain either the image alt-text (ye-pop) or the title of the work (DeviantArt). Examples:Avoided
>>8826292nyo can do
>>8826453holy shit anima is good
>>8826435True. It's missing pectoral bulge too, so I can't do vaginal cowgirl and paizuri at the same time
>>8826293Well I didn't even bother to use a new model for something so banal, but if you insisthttps://files.catbox.moe/355loz.png
who here waiting for the metachs
>Coming back to this this thread after a while>Still Nai vs local fightingWhy not just have a separate thread for each? Is that what the difference between hdg and hgg is?
>>8826469It's just shitposting.And no, it isn't.
https://files.catbox.moe/htv8aa.png
>>8826471Oh that's nice, now try a cunt burst
when NAI gets visual reasoning, pixel diffusion and vidgen this year what will localkeks cope with?
>>8826471don't hit the anime girl >:(even if she enjoys it
>>8826478>even if she enjoys itWhy are you so mean?
>>8826471>spanking, slapping, whippingbased>punching and bloodcringe
>spanking, slapping, whippingnormgroid slop your irl uncle masturbates to>punching and bloodryona kino for true gentlemen
i'm unc
So anima good or nah?
>>8826485it'll probably be pretty decent/okay. right now it's just a waiting period for it to finish training(which will actually happen), get proper UI support and for it to get proper controlnets.
>>8826485It's ok, once it finishes training it will probably become the new standard local model.
>>8826453those nipples look yummya shame it looks fried as french fries
