The Saxon vs the Anglo-Saxon, whose power level is higher?
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>>16527965Doesn't the average Englishman have only around 30% anglo saxon heritage?
>>16527977Depends on the study. In some it’s 30%, in others it’s as high as 70%
>>16527977>Doesn't the average Englishman have only around 30% anglo saxon heritage?iirc, no. It's 30% Continental North European, that is ancestry from Iron Age Scandinavians. Saxons and Angles were pretty much the same as Continental North Europeans. Anglo-Saxons, especially from around 700 onwards were not as similar to the CNEs as they also had ancestry from Bronze Age Britons and Iron Age Gauls. So far as I know those other 2 ancestral components were mostly via the descendants of Roman Age Britons.Could be wrong about this though.
>>16527996Which study shows 70%?>>16528000Aren't most English people majority celtic briton?
>>16527965Most German dynasties were south german (Alemanni and Bavarian) in origin. Saxons were raped by French in both England and Germany
>>16528004Anglos are mostly celtic yes. 14-47% germanic, depends on region.
>>16527965Only parts of northern germany is saxon Only england anglo saxon
>>16528004>Aren't most English people majority celtic briton?I think so, or at least they have a higher amount of ancestry from them than the Continental North Europeans.
>>16527965The Anglos were smart enough to colonize empty lands instead of killing all of their neighbors for lebensraum.
>>16528017>steals your nameNothing personal kid
>>16528332Historically Polabian clay
>>16528341Sorbian at best, at least they still have like 5 containment villages
>>16527965We are both of equal footing.t.Englishman
>>16527965The Saxon is actually a Saxon while the Anglo-Saxon is a larper whos absolute peak is 44% Anglo-Saxon and only a very number of people in the UK actually reach that, the vast majority of them have about half that if not less, and a significant number of people in England itself have 0 Anglo-Saxon.The Saxon is superior, naturally, the Anglo-Saxon has never once won a 1v1 against The Saxon nor has the "Anglo-Saxon" ever vanquished someone the Saxon has vanquished also in a 1v1.>>16528000>Anglo-Saxons, especially from around 700 onwards were not as similar to the CNEs as they also had ancestry from Bronze Age Britons and Iron Age Gauls.Those arent true "Anglo-Saxons" and Middle Ages English DID reach 80% CNE on average in the eastern parts of England, the modern English do not even resemble the middle generation of rape babies, that is how far the English are actually removed from Germanic people.
>>16528298Ireland is far more densely populated than Slavland.
>>16528389The Saxon is a 30% Germanic larper and 70% Celt, bongs have so high Germanic blood from the hundreds of thousands of Nordic settlers. Even Hitler and all nazi academia relented to the fact that the bongs not only had more Aryan ancestry, but of a higher quality as well. Now cope more Hun, the propagators of your larp thought you were inferior
>>16527965British trounce Germans every day of the week, and it’s obvious why. The British, and English in particular, are partly descended from Germanic conquerors who defeated and assimilated valiant foes. Their ancestors went out into the world and put their mark on it. Germanic back in Germany and Scandinavia are the equivalent of townies: a bunch of losers who never left their hometown and never did anything with themselves. It’s as simple as that. The British are real Faustian niggas while Germoids are living-in-their-mom’s-basement nerds.
>>16528389>the Saxon is superior >LosesWild that>muh 1v1In other words, you’re too retarded and autistic to make friends
>>16528389>Middle Ages English DID reach 80% CNE on average in the eastern parts of EnglandWhat time are we talking about here, exactly?
>>16528497based
>>16528523>losesto Slavs and Americans - both nations with substantially higher Germanic minorities and more Germanic admixture than the English.The British performance in the world wars was comical.The English have a terminal fear of fighting fairly especially against the Germans because they instinctively know their insularity has allowed the weakest of them to procreate whereas in continental societies such weak links were destroyed.>>16528544900s.>>16528402>Saxon is 30% Germanic larpernope. The Saxons of Bremen are a 1:1 with Iron Age Anglo-Saxons, the first men who arrived in England to subjugate the proto-Nigels.>hundreds of thousands of Nordic settlersL O Lnot even close. Germans have more Scandinavian admixture than the English. Scandinavian admixture among the English is at noise levels for the majority of the population and the genetic maximum for Scandinavian admixture is... 10% HAHHAHAHAHAHHAASource btw>Margaryan, A., Lawson, D.J., Sikora, M. et al. Population genomics of the Viking world. Nature 585, 390–396 (2020).The Irish and Scots have 2x the Scandinavian admixture of the English.
>>16528661Massive cope, there no more Saxons in their original homeland, Charlemagne imported a massive amount of med frogs to repopulate the area after their conquest, modern Saxon descendants are only fount in Jutland Denmark, "Saxons" in their ancestral homeland are actually less blonde than most of the surrounding lands, with the blondest region they can claim being Hannover... Which was ruled and settled with large amounts of Bong seed because their garrison were from the British isles and their troops were sent overseas to the colonies to die lmao
>>16528332Saxony is in northern germany
>>16528706Uh oh "Saxon" bros lol
>>16528715You can even visually see how bleached the mutts in this region got bleached by the bongs too
>>16528000There were definitely areas settled by groups from southern Denmark and northern Germany whose DNA markers are rare in France. The Angles settled in Northumbria and East Anglia, pic related, the Saxons in Kent and Essex.R*ddit would call this initial wave "settler colonialism" with large numbers of farmers displacing the natives. Subsequent invasions of the Britons seemed to involve the warrior class with Briton peasants ending up subjects rather than being driven away.
>>16528736How did the Dutch manage to remain the most similar to the original Anglo Saxon stock? It fell sharply in Saxony and it appears to only be strong in the Netherlands and Denmark
>>16528706>there are no more Saxonsdemonstrably false.As the 2022 study has demonstrated, Germans from Bremen are an unchanged isolate from the Migration era being a 1:1 with the Anglo-Saxons who invaded Nigelland.Rest of your post is cope because you have to justify firebombing your rapedaddies.
>>16528715>>16528717>>16528750Anglo Cope.>https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-022-05247-2Modern North West Germans are a 1:1 with CNE.Dutch have non-CNE admixture, Danes have substantial non-CNE admixture.The North Western Germans of Bremen are literally identical to your vaunted ancestros Nigel.You are obsessed with diverting attention away from this because it is humiliating as you always imagined yourself above Germans but now you are faced with indisputable proof of the superiority of Germans over your EEF rich Briton tribe.You literally could not pass as a local in Scandinavia or Germany or anywhere humans live. You could however pass as a local in Ireland.>NOOO I SWEAR I COULD PASS AS A LOCAL no you couldnt and anyone with a modicum of experience can tell the English have those classic insular spade heads they share with the gaels.>I could pass in HollandNo you couldnt and you will delude yourself into thinking you could you will say anything to divert attention from this.
>>16528389>>16528661>>16528769>>16528792Seething american ethnoLARPerYou will never be german. Anglos are closer to Scandinavians than g*rmans will ever beI know you larp about your pennsylvanian german ancestry and seethe at anglos because they bullied you in school but that won't change the fact that germans are literal mutts compared to anglosGerman soldiers in ww2 thought more highly of the british soldiers than they did the americans
>>16528750Founder effect, both were settled by the same group. Remember Frisia was mostly swamp at this time, then in later eras when the swamps were drained this small population increased along with the haplotype.
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>>16528823You can tell the Saxon larper is a mutt by how he seethes on and on about “fitting in”, normal whites don’t do this because we have never had to worry about not seeming out of place in any Nordic land, but his block head self is always wondering if he’s gonna get laughed and mocked
>>16528887>gets disproved>seethesYou're literally an american with an inferiority complex towards anglos who LARPs as a german despite your own self-confessed anglo ancestry and saves photos of welsh and irish rugby players to your computerYou're a mentally ill LARPer with an inferiority complex towards anglos due to getting bullied by them and now you LARP vicariously through people who would make fun of you if they saw you in the streetMental Illness
>>16528887>>16528916And there's the fact that our resident anglo supremacist is more nordic and more german then your swarthy american ass
>>16528497That‘s completely ridiculous and false.Germans had such an over-abundance of the Faustian spirit, they were settlers, colonists, merchants, warriors, nobles for many many other nations in all directions, north, south, east and west of their homeland. DESPITE their own homeland never being politically unified and united and thus there was no one to encourage it, except their very own spirit. Then eventually they did unify and almost became the world‘s most premiere Superpower and failed spectacularly. The English on the other hand cannot claim to be defeated or bested by an enemy and degenerated into their current state with no one fighting to stop it, no great uprising of the Anglo-Saxon gentleman. No, it‘s just a sad withering away as opposed to the catastrophic shattering of the German body against the might of the entire world.
>>16528916>>16528925You got a bit worked up there pal, i’m the Anglo itt lmao. I have no idea how you misconstrued what i said, but it happens i suppose
>>16528497Dude the actual Dr. Faust was south german/swiss... You fucking Anglos don't even reflect on the words you are using. Nothing but chatter...
>>16529080+the most influencial adaptation of the Fauststoff is made by Goethe (german)+the word Faustian is coined by Spengler (german)
>>16529026Historically speaking, the only way for the ANglos to win any battles was to be either far superior in terms of technology and numbers, or by betrayal or scheming.
>>16528823Germans are literally closer to Scandinavians as your own chart demonstrates.Those samples are literally 80% North West German L O L.Someone from Bremen today shares 80% of their DNA with the samples you posted.(You) share less than 50% of your DNA with the samples.>Anglos bullied you in schoolWhy is this the go to insult for Anglos? Weird projection. Do Anglos really abuse each other as children at the cultural level?>German soldiers thought more highly of the British than the Americansand look at how the British thanked them, nothing but unwarranted ethnic revanchism by an ethnic group in denial about their irish-like heritage and praising their literal continental German ancestry while profaning the Germans.>>16528887>seethes about fitting in????Struck a nerve. Britfeel and Britpol apes always fall back on "yeah well I could still pass as (insert actual Germanic ethnic group)". You are just mad I called you out on it before you could use it.>Nordic landHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAAYou are the furthest from actual Nordics in Northern Europe.You literally have the most EEF of any North Sea Adjacent ethnic group and the least Steppe/WHG of any North Sea ethnic group.>>16528916>>16528925>>16529052seething Trinovante.I have the genetic profile of a medieval Mercian. Bow to me.
>>16529121alri Woj
>>16529121>all this swarthoid amerimutt copeAnglos are closer to scandinavians than germans are as has been shown in the images posted in this very threadPost face or youre brownGuarentee you wont
>>16529121>BritpolOnly bongs who use /pol/ are poojeets, same applies to Americans who are all chicanos on there
>>16529144Also to add; white Brits mostly browse /sp/ and white Americans mostly browse /k/, just how it be bros
>>16529136The image you posted is literally of people with 80% continental German DNA and they are closer to Scandinavians than the samples that resemble you.>>16529144>>16529152K is nafo troons./sp/ is asiatic brits.I should have mentioned the Brits on /int/ also do this.Furthermore britfeel on R9k is almost exclusively White English complaining (with good reason) about shitskins in England behaving like apes.
>>16529189>still hasn't posted faceBrown mestizo LARPer detectedGuarenteed that you have brown eyes and black hairBow down to your blond anglo god
This will make der Ewige Anglo seethe with rage but it must be said. The arrogance and revanchism of the English people you see today, which is totally unwarranted, is an echo of the Normans. It is a Norman psychological culture that dominates the English people and so instead of the Medieval Saxon who called himself 'English' having close ties to his Norse and German kin across the water, the modern Englishman looks with disdain towards his kin across the water in the same way the Normans of England looked with disdain toward the Normans of France who remained.Nigel your mind is literally suffering a thousand year psyop.Embrace Greater Germania and liberate yourself.It was the Normans who looked at the continent as some hostile foreign land to plunder. It was the Saxons who look at the continent as the land of their kin and forefathers.It was the Normans who let in the jew.You must embrace Germany once more - as your ancestors did.
>>16529216Here are his closest genetic populations for good measure
>>16529216isn't samuel from Edinburgh?
>>16529216Dude has really nice eyes, hopefully he breeds and makes cute girls with those same eyes for me to fuck
>>16529222Nta but Scotts plot closer to Vikangs than English usually do, they got thoroughly raped by both the Nords and the incoming Norse-Gaels that populated about half of Ireland
>>16529222>>16529224>>16529231Stop ethnoLARPingSamuel is English
>>16529217also - as an alternative to this you could drop the larp and recognize your primarily insular descent and build a nation based on being indigenous to North West Europe rather than these dubiously substantiated tales of Nordic, German, and Norman descent.
>>16529238why do you have this many photos of this dude?
>>16529238Yeah he gots really nice eyes bros, the closest i’ve ever dated was some half Welsh girl I messed around with for a few years
>>16528661All cope
>>16529080>>16529090All you can do is sit in your basement and talk about doing things and make up imaginary stories. Anglos actually DO it
>>16529308But Anglos lack the introspection to even realize what they are doing. They might as well be automatons.
>>16529368Too much introspection is harmful and causes you to think yourself into a corner you can’t escape. Sometimes you just have to do what you have to do.
>>16529216You have the eyes of a broken bitch
>>16527965I wonder where the French Gauls fall into this power level competition. They have some achievements themselves.
>>16530588They're not too far behind.
>>16527965gee i don't know, the ones that colonized half the world and had the largest empire in history or the ones who stayed within the confines of their borders for their entire history apart from two times when they were promptly sent back into minnowhood by the former and its colonies? That's a tough question /his/.
>>16529217>it was the normans that let in the jewjews were expelled from england, it was the continent that had a jew infestation problem.
>>16530777And despite all that Germany still has a higher GDP per capita than the UK, keep coping and seething
>>16528750The English word 'boss' is derived from the dutch word 'baas'
>>16529114>Anglos lost battles sometimes>that means they can't fightCope more
>>16528014"Celtic" doesn't mean anything. Germans are genetically closer to iron Celts than anyone in the British isles (yes, that includes the Irish and Welsh LARPers).
>>16531475British and Iberian Celts are only culturally Celtic and not ethnically. Ethnic celts are from Austria and that's where they're strongest
>>16527965Historically the Saxons (who developed faster and bullied Danes instead of vice versa), buy since the industrial revolution Anglo-Saxons steamed ahead and Saxons, too distracted by idealism, never caught yp.
>>16531481>>16531475What even is the deeper lore behind the Celts? I always thought they were just western Germanics.
>>16532060Genetically that’s what they pretty much are, just like the Slavs are basically just western Scythians genetically
>>16532060It's more that Germanics are just Celts or rather that Celts never really existed and it's just a word meaning foreigner. Iron tribes of Central Europe now called "Celts" came before Germanics, though "Celt" itself is exonym and only one small tribe in Southern Germany actually called themselves "Keltoi", the Keltoi eventually become a universal word for foreigner. Greeks and Romans refered to essentially all central Europeans as Celts, AND Germanic tribes also used the word to refer to Romans (yes).You might ask what about "Celtic culture", "Celtic language groups" etc. The former was just continent wide early Iron Age culture (e.g. "Celtic" oppida cities were from Spain all the way to Scandinavia), the latter is mostly speculative reconstructions of unattested languages. Of the attested words that were assumed to be in "proto-Celtic" over 280 words are shared by proto-Germanic which is a huge portion of the lexicon.
>>16528497Based
>>16530819and? normans literally brought jews to England.jews were expelled in 1290, but they were let in first by William of Normandy who established Old Jewry.They were let in a second time by William of Orange who's Glorious Revolution was funded by Francisco Lope Suasso, a jew, in 1680.Your vaunted Dutch brought the jew in as well.
>>16532701>>16532065So my suspitions were mostly correct.
>>16531475>>16532701Celt was used by the Greeks to describe the people of Western Europe descended from South Western Beakers. Germanic was used to describe the North Western Beakers.
>>16534885Celts are not from beakers though, they are also from CWC, beakers were not IE speakers, but did mix with incoming CWC.
>>16535490"bell beaker" is what the Western offshoot of early CWC are referred to in the literature.