>WE GOT CONQUERED BY THE NORMANS TOO WHY ARE YOU ONLY TALKING ABOUT BRITAINwhy are they like this?
>>16529054a severe case of germanic envy.>please accept us into your subrace you blond beasts!
>>16529054The normans only conquered the south though, and southern monkeys are not italians.
>>16529054>>>/int/
>>16529065This, and it’s really odd how the browner meds such as the Iberians and Southern Italians have so much hatred for the Germanics yet claim their ancestry whenever they are called swarthy. No other people do this; the black Americans spit on their Anglo blood and hate the whites yet never seek to larp as them, the Finns spit on their Swedish and Aryan blood while also being indifferent to any larp involving them. It’s very strange imo
>>16529054Sicilians? Yeah they do. Not North Italians though. North Italians KNOW they are white and they don't have to boast all the time about some whites once conquering their land; Terroni from South Italy on the other hand be like:"Oh mamma mia scunnizz, did you know that once-a 1000 years-a ago some tall blonde Vikings conquered-a my Arab village and-a the Norman feudal lord appointed to rule-a it might've fucked-a some serf prostitute ancestor of mine? Ah Mamma-mia I'm-a so fucking white-a, my grand grandfather had-a blue eyes, I'm-a Norman Luigi!"
>>16529054To be fair Robert Guiscard, Bohemond, etc were cool as fuck. I love what an absolute menace they were to the greeks
>>16529093>I love what an absolute menace they were to the greeks
>>16529202Many people believe byzantine humiliation began during the crusades but it happened much earlier
>>16529054nobody cares or larps as normans>>16529073>southern monkeys are not italiansreally? Keep learning new things on /his/ everyday>>16529091nobody cares or larps as normansITT amerimutts gone wild
>>16529259>nobody cares or larps as normans Yeah they do. I heard that a million times.
>>16529081>Iberians and Southern Italians have so much hatred for the Germanics yet claim their ancestry whenever they are called swarthy.Only in your feeble nordcuck mind, my pale friend.Nordicism is the biggest cope ideology of all time. You looked at the Mediterrenean empires of old and saw that your kind was lackingEven Hitler admitted this A race of plagiarists
so what's with the anti italianism here? what did the italians do to you, stole your lunch money or something?
>>16529259>nobody cares or larps as normansliar
>>16529259>>16529263There’s been a Spaniard making his daily Roman larp thrwads for over 3 months now. Some people on here either just are beyond oblivious or they’re only pretending to be retarded so their seethe narratives dont fall apart
I've never heard any Italian trying to bring up Southern Italy getting conquered by Normans, is this another episode of OP making shit up to get mad at
>>16529081>the Finns spit on their Swedish and Aryan bloodFinnish autists on 4chan do, but Finns IRL love Sweden.
>>16529259>really? Keep learning new things on /his/ everyday>North vs south italian banter is new We had a northern independence party until a decade ago, duh
>>16529276>>16529073>>16529091>muh northern italyshut the fuck up luigi southern italians are part of your country deal with it
>>16529091>>16529054Yes the terroni LARP as Germanic is very pathetic. Almost as much as the Portuguese LARPing as Suebi, an irrelevant germanic hobo kingdom nobody ever hears of.
>>16529287i'm honestly quite proud of it. southern italy is beautiful. what do you have? post soviet suburb blocks filled with turks?
>>16529299I'm not the one calling them subhumans you are
>>16529054I've seen historians talk about the southern normans in a similar fashion
>>16529303me? who said that? i don't think terroni are subhumans. i think they're vulgar, ignorant, and opportunistic, but that can be solved with some proper education. they're italians, from an ethnic pow there's nothing i can argue about it.
>>16529310you were crying over the OP not specifying south italy. stop trying to backpedal. Even now your post is passive aggressive towards them
>>16529299>post soviet suburb blocks filled with turks?Yes, but there's also plenty of shitalians living in them.
>>16529293Didn't spain and sweden start a fight over the visigoths in some church council? At this point I wouldn't be surprised if there were greeks who claimed descent from their 1206 latin conquerors and rulers
>>16529323No thanks, we might be extremely retarded, but even we have limits.
>>16529284yes a northern separatist movement who wanted to LEAVE Italy (and crashed and burned when nobody wanted to actually leave), hence why I find the statements above perplexing>>16529293nobody larps as germanic, there's some greek and gallo-romance larps, which are not really larps since they are still living traditions
>>16529293>Suebi, an irrelevant germanic hobo kingdom nobody ever hears of.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_o6XPPxARmY&ab_channel=TheHistoriesIs this the new cope? Claiming that Iberians LARP as Germanics? And in the process, denigrating their own? Holy shit, the derangement knows no bounds
>>16529323Well I think that's rare among Greeks, they've always hated them, both Byzantines and later Venetian ruled Greeks like Cretand or Cypriots who constantly protested or even rebelled against their rule
>>16529293>Portuguese LARPing as SuebiThat's a Galician LARP, in Portugal nobody knows or cares about the Suebi, or even the Visigoths for that matter. If you ask the average Portuguese for a chronology he'll probably say Lusitanians followed by Romans followed by Moors and then Portugal. The Germanic Kingdoms are extremely irrelevant.The Galicians took up the Suebi LARP as a counterpoint to the Castilian Visigothic LARP.
>>16529316or maybe i'm another person, ever thought about it?
>>16529332>Is this the new cope? Claiming that Iberians LARP as Germanics? And in the process, denigrating their own? What did you want to say in English, Juan? I can't replay to a post that doesn't make sense semantically. "Their own?" Their own "what"? Maybe in Spanish the literal translation of this phrase has some meaning but what you said doesn't make sense in English.
>>16529347germans, nigger
>>16529293The Portuguese LARP as Portuguese
>>16529287>luigiThat's a southern italian name you fucking retard>>16529331They weren't as enlightened as I am
>>16529323>Didn't spain and sweden start a fight over the visigoths in some church council>The Spanish and Swedish claims of Gothic origins led to a clash at the Council of Basel in 1434. Before the assembled cardinals and delegations could engage in theological discussion, they had to decide how to sit during the proceedings. The delegations from the more prominent nations argued that they should sit closest to the Pope, and there were also disputes over who were to have the finest chairs and who were to have their chairs on mats. In some cases, they compromised so that some would have half a chair leg on the rim of a mat. In this conflict, Nicolaus Ragvaldi, bishop of the Diocese of Växjö, claimed that the Swedes were the descendants of the great Goths, and that the people of Västergötland (Westrogothia in Latin) were the Visigoths and the people of Östergötland (Ostrogothia in Latin) were the Ostrogoths. The Spanish delegation retorted that it was only the "lazy" and "unenterprising" Goths who had remained in Sweden, whereas the "heroic" Goths had left Sweden, invaded the Roman empire and settled in SpainLMAO
>>16529065>>16529081folx here percieve normans as french not germanic thoughever, thread is really baffling
>>16529424Central and North French and Germans have the same genetic cluster, they got thoroughly boinked by the Franks and Normans. And who gives a fuck what country bumkins in Italy think lol
>>16529457Seriously, why are S. Italians so far apart? It can't just be the Moors
>>16529480>Seriously, why are S. Italians so far apart?Imperial era Roman slavery. Along with Tunisia and Egypt, Sicily was one the breadbaskets of Rome, along with being a major producer of other agricultural products like wine and olives.
>>16529490Southern Italians are basically Greeks. Is that why Northerners hate them so much? The Greek East and Latin West rivalry is alive and well in Italy
>>16529409jesus
>>16529518 No they are not.
>>16529293Why do nordcucks think people larp as them? even the goth larp in Spain is some fringe far right thing and actually centered around the argument that the worthless and cowardly goths stayed in sweden while the worthwhile ones moved to spain. Obviously it's a larp as spaniards don't have germanic dna>>16529081>how the browner meds such as the IberiansIberians are factually genetically whiter than north Italians
>>16529654They pretty much are
>>16529270Germcucks are seething 24/7 because they don't have any ancient histories and now they like to pretend that people larp as them.
>>16530527Yeah but not skin color wise, genetics mean fuck all for visual appearance, also the South Italians have more modern scientific achievements than Iberia put to gether
>>16529457>And who gives a fuck what country bumkins in Italy think lolfirst posts claim folx want to larp as norman to be in some germanix club when normans aren't even perceived as such, just pointing out the retardation
>>16531489Meds are beyond retarded so I dont fault either of you for not being able to understand plain English
>>16531496nord folx have their heads so up in their asses that they miss the relevant points of the discussionz
>>16531460>Le nobel meme
>>16531694Which other metric would you like to use? Italians mog you in every thing but abortion rates lol
>>16531711Italy, north and south, was ruled by Spaniards for centuries. The opposite never happened. Also olympics is also a meme. In the relevant sports Iberians are more succesful
>>16531773Like which sports?
>>16531773>>16531795Like really please list them because it sure as fuck aint soccer
>>16529054Who are you quoting?
>>16531798>SoccerItaly has a higher population so of course they have more world cups. Italians never produced palyers on the calibre of Cristiano Ronaldo. In tennis and F1 we mog you as well and that's it for the three most relevant sport today.
>>16529081>the Finns spit on their Swedish and Aryan blood while also being indifferent to any larp involving them.It's not really "Swedish" blood, rather it's ancestry from some older Germanic source.>>16529279Don't think this is true. I think i myself am quite positive towards Swedes compared to other Finns in real life. I don't say average Finns hates Swedes, but the relationship is not as neutral as with Norwegians or Danes.
>>16531814Does Itay have 4 times your population too? Italy produces more on average for f1 drivers too which is legit white nigger tier in any case
>>16531773>The opposite never happenedThe roman empire just didn't exist huh?
>>16531989Romans were more akin to Spaniards than to Italians
>>16531989He’s going to reply to you with a massive cope that the Roman empire was actually Spanish and claim that all Romans were Spaniards
>>16531992Kek, you got it
>>16531973>Does Itay have 4 times your population too?Retard. Bigger population mean they have a bigger pool of players to draw from.For the F1 drivers there's barely any difference and their titles were won in the 1920s where the sport was still very young.
>>16531992>>16531996yeah well i'm sorry but that's science
>>16532010>Of individuals associated with the first time interval, the vast majority (40 of 48) form a genetic cluster here named “C.Italy_Etruscan” that overlaps with present-day Spanish individuals in a principal components analysis (PCA) built with West Eurasian populations from the Human Origins datasethttps://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.abi7673According to your logic the WASPs have more in common with Geronimo than a random injun in Canada.
>>16532001So why doesnt China have that many more times your cups? Why does Italy have the same as Germany despite having a small population? You cope so poorly for someone who does this daily for hours
>>16532019>So why doesnt China have that many more times your cups?Because chinks don't play football or didn't until recently>Why does Italy have the same as Germany despite having a small population?Italy got two of its cup in the 1930sFucking Uruguay won 2 world cup during that era too.
>>16532030>Fucking Uruguay won 2 world cup during that era too.Because they had a very good team.What are you not understanding?
>>16532030>>16532033Uruguayans are also predominantly Italians, Spaniard bros keep losing sad
>>16532033Relative to the standards of that era. Of course, in general Italy always does well enough as ranking, it's kinda silly to just look at who won 1st place only.In fact this whole thread and all threads like it are retarded and are often done by pajeets or nafri mutts.
>>16532037>Uruguayans are also predominantly ItaliansWrong.>>16532040>Relative to the standards of that era. Of course, in general Italy always does well enough as ranking, it's kinda silly to just look at who won 1st place only.I'm not the one who started shit here. The other mad wops got angry for mysterious reason.
>>16532010>>16532017Shitalybros? We wuzzn't Romans after all?
>>16532040>Of course, in general Italy always does well enoughThey failed to qualify for the WC two times in a row now.
>>16529065>blondDaily eye-hair cope spam
>>16529480East med migrants.>>16529518Sicilians are 15-30% levantine.
>>16533281>20-30%
>>16532048we are, but we mixed with greeks which makes us even more superior
What race am I? My ancestors were Italian, Greek, German English and Scottish. I don't belong anywhere and these regions were always opposed to each other religiously and culturally. I've already been bullied off multiple sites for being pale yellow
>>16533345mere mestizos chimps
Imagine not being I1
>>16533281>15/30% That's a very low estimate
>>16529424Don't speak for all of us you faggette
>>16533487Couldn't be me.
>>16533416cope
>>16533281Bad modelIron Age Lebanon has about 30% Greek/Anatolian DNA from the Sea people. Add a Nafri population as well.
>>16533605In a 2020 study published in the American Journal of Human Genetics, researchers have shown that there is substantial genetic continuity in Lebanon since the Bronze Age interrupted by three significant admixture events during the Iron Age, Hellenistic, and Ottoman period. In particular, the Phoenicians can be modeled as a mixture of the local Bronze Age population (63%–88%) and a population coming from the North, related to ancient Anatolians or ancient South-Eastern Europeans (12%–37%). The results show that a Steppe-like ancestry, typically found in Europeans, appears in the region starting from the Iron Age.[73]
>>16533579Based
>>16533494this, iberians, greeks and italians are half anatolians
>>16529081>This, and it’s really odd how the browner meds such as the Iberians and Southern Italians have so much hatred for the GermanicsThey don't hate Germanics. Sicilians love the Normans and LARP as them all the time. They hate the Northern Italians who LARP as pure Germanic Lombards.
>>16535002They're literally larping as Romans right now
>>16529490>Imperial Era.Late Republic, actually. Get your fucking dates right, faggot.I agree, but come on, have some dignity.>>16533281I need to read this satire. Sounds very interesting.
>>16533413are you savitri devi? kek wtf is that mix
>>16533679Based
>>16533679>>16536429Greeks obviously, but Italians and fucking iberians? Are you misaligning whatever small african sample into anatolian because of common flow?
