Was antinatalism refuted yet?
It was self-refuted on spawn
yes, pic related disproves it
>>16532677Antinatalism is ultimately pointless as the core function of life is self replication. It misses the mark in focusing on the immorality of creating life. The creation of life is inherent to the existence of life, that’s the point.In other words, you’re never going to convince people to stop having children.That’s what makes life so evil. It is self perpetuating, infinitely growing, all consuming suffering for the purpose of additional suffering.
>>16532677most of the population is antinatalist
>>16532677I want to breed big tiddy gfs. There, you've been refuted.
>holds a position>expects others to refute it instead of proving it>others rightfully ignore his position
>>16532700but everyone has their own a priori rules and arbitrary frame and they're different between peopleantinatalists have their own as well, and they're not any more or less valid than their detractors
>>16532677The Christian answer:Suffering was defeated 2000 years ago. You already have victory over it The Non-Christian answer: There's no such thing as objective suffering. You can
>>16532677anti-natalists continueing to live is its biggest refutal since the tree is known by its fruit, so is man by his actions not by his words.
>>16532955I suffer, so clearly Christianity is false
>>16533263I'm sorry anon, but you seem to have once again confused antinatalism with prosuicidism.
>>16533263Is the anti-natalist's position that they should kill themselves?
>>16533287It's not that suffering is gone. Its been defeated by the death and resurrection of Christ. Now you can walk in power, knowing you already have the victory over your suffering.
>>16533377they believe so and want to do so but don't have the balls neither to embrace oblivion nor to live fully.>>16533311only you are confused here.
>>16533583>they believe so and want to do so but don't have the balls neither to embrace oblivion nor to live fully.[citation needed]
>>16532677It's premise relies on variables we can neither prove not disprove, that non existence is a more pleasurable experience than existing. I could make the opposite argument (non existence is the most painful experience ever when compared to existing)and I'd just be as correct, which is we can't prove it. It's like saying the current king of France is the happiest man alive, which is a nonsense claim because the current king of France doesn't exist and I am giving him properties that. There's nothing to disprove because neither side can be right or wrong by definition and it's just opinions.
>>16533583Wrong. That is not the anti-natalist position.
>>16532677animals just don't cognize suffering the same way dysgenic first world cucks like you do. misanthropy is a far more coherent position than anti-natalism.
>>16532677The human race will go extinct whether we reproduce or not. Antinatalism is just another word for depression. It's one thing if you yourself don't want to raise kids or can't have kids, but to say the entire human race should stop reproducing because you are zogged and pozzed to high fuck is nothing short of retardation
>>16532677No it's impossible to beat the consent argument from analogy of someone gambling away the life-savings of a man in a coma even with the intent to return every penny gambled.
>>16534499You are a moron high off the farts of utilitarianism. Antinatalism is just a personal commitment to a particular virtue by a person capable of pursuing it; not a hylic like yourself. And I enjoy life here well enough and haven't been depressed since I became a philosophical pessimist actually. Since my scales seem much more in tune with reality, I feel much less disappointment and self-destructive tendencies. For me, my antinatalism stems from the dangers of consciousness not only on this earth but on through eternity. It seems anything can happen to you by virtue of your existence. I don't buy atheist pablum that it all just ends here after 80 years.
>>16532702Anon there is beauty in this world. It's not all suffering.
>>16532677It's irrelevant. The people vulnerable to anti-natalist memes will remove themselves from the gene pool and thus make the next generations more resilient to anti-natalism.
>erm you stupid chud there's actually no difference between growing up as the son of responsible middle class office workers, and being a Congolese cobalt miner so it's always wrong to have kidsit's impossible to refute by virtue of being so absolutely retarded that it can't even be futed in the first place
>>16534687>I've haven't been depressed since I became a pessimistYou are retarded.
>>16534877You are just seething about the freeing effects of negativity.
>>16534880There's nothing liberating about being a miserable bastard.
>>16534907I'm not miserable! You are the one angry and using harsh language. Just stop expecting so much out of life!
>>16534912Stop expecting nothing out of the short amount of time you have left you miserable bastard.
>>16534925Keep on seething