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Was he right or left wing?
>It's more complicated than that blah blah blah
Fuck off nerd. Everyone knows left and right wing are simplifications. Just answer the question
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>>16550536
I'd say left wing for his time, but you really are discussing a dichotomy which not only depends on the country one is discussing, but also the time period. Teddy wasn't a socialist, but he stood up for the working man and yet was an imperialist in spite of all that. He loved his country, his people, and his land, simple as.
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I'm from Spain and I hate what this jewish cunt and his nephew did to my people
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>>16550536
>Fuck off nerd. Everyone knows left and right wing are simplifications. Just answer the question
go back
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>>16550590
You are a quadroon from morroco
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>>16550536
Right wing in his day, utra socialist leftist today for being an environmentalist.
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>>16550595
Rather that than being American tbqh
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If you were a politician in America you were right wing, simple as
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>>16550590
remember the alamy
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>>16550631
kek
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>>16550536
>Everyone knows left and right wing are simplifications
No, they dont. As an unitedstatenese, your whole mind structure is determined by the system you live in, your politics are a fucking joke, with votings that make 0 sense, and your freedom is nothing more but choosing between red or blue, the 2 alternatives the system already decided for you.
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>>16550545
so he was a nationalist and a socialist?
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>>16550647
Red, Blue, and BVLL MOOSE
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He was a benevolent dictator.
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Right wing, he was pro-eugenics and racialist
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>>16550536
Masonic jew cocksucker like every american president
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>>16550657
Literally said he wasn’t a socialist
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>>16552270
TSMT
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>>16550536
He was pro-genocide of the 90% of US Indians

Which of the two wings loves genocide the most?
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>>16552711
>Which of the two wings loves genocide the most?
both
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>>16550536
He existed at a time before the direction brainrot when presidents were less directed by party affiliation.
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>>16550536
He was an authoritarian dictator and imperialist. I don't use any of those terms with the intention of painting him negatively, that's just what he was. He was America's second dictator, after Lincoln. He was confident that the power of the presidency should supersede all else and that checks and balances were more like guidelines. He's unironically very close to Hitler politically, so top center of the political compass, only with far less race-based ideology. He was anti-free market economy in one sense but the market should also be prevented from becoming a pseudo-government itself, because that isn't a free market either.
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>>16550590
have you seen any history nerd fascinated by this guy?
I swear those guys are the most obnoxious people i've ever met they seeth about france and other countries but always come up with the fact that he survived an assassination attempt and two other pop culture facts about this guy, worst part is i met one and he wasnt underage
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>>16550536
TR defies your gay little spectrums. Why do we have to shoehorn all political leaders into rationalizations of what happened in France like 200 years ago again? None of that shit really applies to the US in the early 1900s. There was no clergy or aristocracy, and if there was the Roosevelts were a part of it.

>>16550590
Teddy was from New York and everything he did was based, especially wars with Spain.
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Progressive for his time mixed with warhawk nationalism and center left economics

So for right wingers he should be a communist as he goes against the sacred mantra of the free market
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There is no American right or left. It's a complete mockup for lobbying and financial consolidation, the main industries of the US.
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>>16550536
Left wing then, basically,.But not very left wing, moderate left.
Nowadays he is extreme right. Literally an Eugenecist.
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>>16550590
Spain struck first.
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>>16554265
Why didn't they ever make these for the USS Liberty?
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>>16554381
Anon, its because nobody gave a shit about some random surveillance vessel until retards made it a cause to rally against Jews for. The Maine on the other hand was literally an armored warship
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Flabby New York Rich Boy with compensatory masculinity manifesting as an obsession with warfare.

I cannot remember the number but Gore Vidal pointed out how much he spent per year as a college student and it was totally obnoxious, he was a rich rich RICH kid.

A good critic of the corruption in politics but a savage imperialist.
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>>16554386
No one cared about American sailors being killed by an alleged ally and the media suppression thereafter? Things like that get met noticing.
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>>16554381
I was thinking the Maine, the Gulf of Tonkin Incident, and the USS Liberty all make for interesting cases of cassus belli, as far as what will be used for war and what wont.
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>>16550657
The socialist vermin hate workers and love criminals, you moron.
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>>16554402
Smoke and mirrors all around
Nobody picks a fight with the top dog
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>>16554381
Because Randolph Hearst ran stories about one because it was in his favor to so he shilled for war against Spain in all the newspapers of the time. Watch citizen Kane.
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>>16554265
Spain never sunk the Maine retard-kun
>>16553801
>Teddy was from New York
Don't care, a mutt is a mutt
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>>16555238
In public consciousness, Spain attacked the Maine and that is what counts. It’s like the gulf of Tonkin incident. The actual facts don’t matter.
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why is spaincel chimping out about losing 45% black cuba as a colony again? franco's lost opportunity to use afro-cubans to rape spanish women along with the moroccans he had raping them?
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>>16555242
I don't care about losing Cuba and PR who would have been lost regardless of the US intervention and nobody really do
That's why nobody in Spain held a grudge against the US like France did to Germany for Alsace
>>16555241
Yeah just like the holocaust is real in public consciousness but the truth always triumph eventually, see all these pro palestine protests in your universities
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>>16555250
"I don't care" doing a lot of work in this post lol
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>>16555238
>Spain never sunk the Maine retard-kun
We all know those perfidious and black-hearted Spanish would stoop to such infamy as to slay our herioc seamen. Have you not read in the Journal about their sailors sulying fair maidens on the high seas? Not to mention their barbarous treatment of the noble people of Cuba.
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>>16555292
I don't care about losing PR and Cuba but I care about American treachery.
But we will have our revenge. The Reconquista succeeded against the Muslims, you will be vanquished by it too.
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>>16555301
>Not to mention their barbarous treatment of the noble people of Cuba.
>NOOOO YOU CAN'T TREAT LE NIGGERINO BADLY
Get a grip Cletus.
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>>16555302
And you've asked those latinxes their thoughts on reunifying with mexico under the benevolent overlordship of spanish-born peninsulares?
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>>16555305
It is the duty of all men who hold the song of freedom in their hearts to abrogate the suffering of all races, and none suffer more than those of the Imperial Spanish crown.
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>>16555314
>spanish-born peninsulares
Mexican elite is de facto Spanish. Even AMLO grandparents are Spanish republican refugees
>>16555316
Yeah we get it you love niggers. Can't say I'm surprised
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>>16555345
>Yeah we get it you love niggers. Can't say I'm surprised
Come on man you aren't playing along.
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>>16555238
Then fix your confused meme, stupid fuck
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>>16550536
Radical centrist
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>>16555398
it isn't confused. It's just celebrating a hispanic bvll who sank a few confederates ships
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>>16555642
>born in the US
>couldn't speak a word of spanish
>he's le based hispanic bvll because his dad was spanish
so he was nick fuentes if he was an admiral (and not a homosexual catboyfucker)
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>nationalist
>eugenicist
>conservationist
he was literally hitler
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>>16555649
>he's le based hispanic bvll because his dad was spanish
Yes? Someone who is half spanish on his paternal side and half french, born in France and who doesn't speak Spanish is still Spanish to me. On the other hand a dude who is English or German on his dad side and born in Spain and speak only Spanish is still a foreign subhumans that need to get his head removed of his shoulders at most or at least get the fuck out of my country
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>>16555653
He liked Jews and gave them prominent position in US gov which set a precedent. Also a massive Zionist shill.
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>>16555659
Your country legalized fag marriage like a decade before the UK did, who do you think you're fooling with this edgy shit lmao
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>>16555662
Canada is an Anglo country and legalized it before Spain. Argument rejected.
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>On the other hand a dude who is English or German on his dad side and born in Spain and speak only Spanish is still a foreign subhumans that need to get his head removed of his shoulders at most or at least get the fuck out of my country
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>>16555662
Also you're deflecting the point. What matters is not the language or culture which are irrelevant. His father was Spanish so he was Spanish. End of discussion. Likewise a half American half Spaniard would never be Spanish even if he speaks the language and is completely assimilated into Spanish culture he would still be foreign.
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>>16555665
>American making overweight joke
really now?
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>>16555667
I highly doubt anyone in spain would consider some american that couldn't speak a word of spanish a trve blve spaniard because his dad was born in a spanish territory. Stick to the pivot tables and haploautism anon
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>>16555672
What "anyone" thinks is irrelevant.
Also the guy got a small statue is his dad native town so you're wrong.
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>>16555676
Beside Spaniard literally CAN'T be American according to your own law. We're Hispanic or something like that. It's a privilege we and no other euros have
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>>16555676
>paying for a statute of a guy born in another corner of the world that never stepped foot in your town just because he was famous and his dad was from your town
God that's pathetic
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>>16555685
>that never stepped foot in your town
He visited it twice, the statue was made on the occasion of his second visit.
anyway WASPS are the only real americans. German and swarthoid french Hugenots get a pass. All the other are fake Americans.
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>>16550590
Thoughts on Franco?
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>>16555831
Mostly good, some very bad.
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>>16550536
He was a liberal by the standards of his time; his faction of the GOP (the Progressives) were very much centre-left and most ended up in the New Deal coalition.However he was more right wing than the likes of Upton Sinclair and William Jennings Bryan; his white supremacist/imperialist views were standard for their time but more conservative than other liberals/leftists.



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