Tell me, does morality come from God or does God follow what's moral?If God commands something that's immoral is it suddenly moral?Who chose the laws of what's moral or not? Is God bound by them?
>Tell me, does morality come from God or does God follow what's moral?The existence of the "without God why don't you kill people" argument proves it's the latter. Morality precedes God.
God determines what is good or evil, humans must get in line. You can't play word games (ie moral philosophy) with the Almighty.
>>16552577Reading Euthyphro?
>>16552577Omnipotence and omniscience has nothing to do with morality. Omniscience means God can identify the world that would be maximally satisfying to him and omnipotence means he can create the world that would be maximally satisfying to him. The fact that the world he created is a retarded miserable world of suffering is proof that God is an evil sadist because that's the world that he identified as maximally satisfying to him.
>>16552577That is the point of the story of Abraham and Isaac on the mountain.Abraham should have said no, but his fanaticism to follow whatever God says led him to follow an idiotic order.To this day you have people who say it was a test of Faith.Faith in what? Kill your son because God somehow needs him?Moral is inside all of us a as a group, we fall and rise and find what is good or bad, as men and women, as humas, with the help of God, but no his word, because in the Bible, that God of the Bible used words to ask to Moses and Aaron for too much gold and blood at the Tabernacle. God asked for idiotic things like part of your penis in exchange of power and lands.That is no moral, that is no God, that is the word of greedy and degenerated men.
>>16552686God wanted to know if Abraham truly feared God because he was about to hand over the entire world to his children and make them the most blessed people above all other people. God was the one who gave Isaac to Abraham, Abraham knew this for a fact because God waited until he was a hundred years old to go personally to him and tell him that he was going to give him Isaac by his 90 year old sterile wife and that he was going to turn Isaac into a great nation.Abraham had already seen God's power, saving him time and time again, keeping all his promises and blessing him for 25 years, making him super wealthy and famous trough all the lands of Caanan and making him prosper in everything he did. Abraham had many reasons to trust God, He was the one who gave him his son and he made him a promise that requires his son to be alive, so he decided to trust God. And it paid off.
Morality is just personal judgments about how people should universally behave. This isn't any less meaningful or significant than "God says it's wrong" or "somehow moral facts just exist like math truths".Never understood people's existential crisis about moral truth.
