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Any particular reason why Portugal is so small compared to Spain? Also why France has less than English when there are more Francophone Arab countries and migrants in France?
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>>16591064
What is this ESL babble? Not the point of this thread.
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>>16591049
My guess is since portuguese derives from galician and galicia was reconquered very early on the arabic influence in the vocabulary and culture didnt have proper time to develop as opposed to genetic influence. Meaning that despite being the most genetically impacted by al-andaluz it was one of the least culturaly/lingusticaly impacted
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>>16591064
>>16591093
>>>/int/
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>>16591049
900 is honestly suprisingly low
loanwords sneak their way into general conversation
like "alcohol" is an arabic loanword even though arabs hate alcohol
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>>16591049
Most of these "Arabic" words are actually just Greek words that Arabs took up and added "Al" in front, while Europeans actually still derive it from the Greek in the modern versions.
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>>16591064
Mental illness, go outside
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>>16592024
They made perfume
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>>16592024
Also algebra
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>>16591049
It is funny but this "map" does NOT show Italy because if they did they would realize that most of the ""arabic"" influenced words are in fact PHOENICIAN or persian and not "arabic" in the sense of muslim.

American English have a few hundred of Spanish words yet nobody say a thing.
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>>16591049
>Why is Portugal smaller
I think it's because the core region of muslim Iberia and it's main cities became part of Spain, not Portugal.
Also, Castillan and Arabic merged at some point to create the Mozarabic language, and later its lexicon got swallowed back by mainline Castillan (modern Spanish).
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sicilian is an arabic language
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>>16591092
>the most genetically impacted by al-andaluz
The islamic period left no genetic impact in Galicia. It's commonly agreed that the African DNA present in modern populations has its origins in a pre-historic Iberomaurusian migration and a later north African migration during the Roman Empire.



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