Did Judas go to hell, even though he was necessary for God's plan?
>>16591587The bad guy still needs to be in the story, even if he's ultimately destined to be defeated.
>>16591587Rather than seek forgiveness, Judas killed himself. Judas is ultimately the one who condemned himself.
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>>16591625ThisChristianity (along Catholic lines) is absurdly easy to cheese - just seek forgiveness even after doing countless horrible things, and all will be forgiven and you can move on.
>>16591587Judas went to hell, because he deserved to.
>>16591590>>16591625>>16592776You know absolutely nothing about Christianity. Judas believed Jesus was God. He went to heaven, no questions asked.
>>16592779>Judas believed Jesus was God.Clearly no, since he betrayed him.
>>16592779Read the bible
>>16592872Then felt such horrible regret for it that he hanged himself
>>16591587Dead people are dead.
>>16592878I did. It agrees with me.
>>16591587Earth is hell so Judas went to heaven. Same as every creature. Firmament is betwixt heaven and earth. Genesis
>>16592891The damage was done.
>>16592896You sure did. Cheers.
>>16592896The bible says the flood was global. It was intended to "destroy all flesh", and it covered the peaks of mountains. Why do you care more about heathens calling you names than the infallible word of God?
>>16592912The damage was supposed to be done
>>16592916Wrong thread, but fortunately 4chan is a broken third world website so the delete post function never works
>>16592919I would have been better for Judas not to be born.Remember?
>>16592912Lmao. Judas won an Oscar for performance. Best actor of 27 BCE.
>>16592928>27 BCE.wat
>>16592926Then Jesus wouldn't have been the ultimate sacrificial chicken for yahweh
>>16592912Well, yeah? If damnation was based on your evil having done damage we'd all be damned
>>16591587How many sheep did Gandalf count before he went to bed on the night before the Battle of Minas Tirith?
>>16591587How could he make the devil so much stronger than a maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan?
>>16592953>If damnation was based on your evil having done damageIt is, the difference is that we repent, Judas, we can't know for sure what was going through his head.
>>16593410True but it seems like he really did deeply regret what he'd done as much as it could be regrettedOf course he responded to that in one of the worst ways he could have. Can you imagine if we had a Gospel of Judas? It would be one of the most moving things ever written by a human being. A replay of how all of us betray Christ and crucify him with our own sins but he still chooses us and accepts us back to him regardless.Instead we got a bloated corpse in some field. Great work, Judas.I will VGH about this sometimes
>>16593530Judas' suicide is his gospel, retard-kun. If you weren't a tradlarper you'd understand this
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>>16593543>Judas' suicide is his gospelYeah bro lemme just turn to chapter 4 of Judas' dead corpse up in the tree, verse 5 is real deep
>>16592891Suicide is a sin
>>16592774Remind that an ingenuine prayer for forgiveness is a lie, and thus also a sin.>>16592779Judas never repented.
>>16592916The Flood was a metaphor.
>>16591587JUDAS DIDN'T KILL HIMSELFHe was killed by the Jews because he knew the truth
>>16591625Why did he need forgiveness for fulfilling Yahweh's convoluted plan?
>>16592912The damage being all of mankinds sins getting absolved?
>>16594806I'm not a Calvinist, but why wouldn't he? He still did it.
>>16591587The reason Judas went to hell isn't because he betrayed Jesus, which is the foolish classical tragic poeticism that Renaissance humanists obsessed over in their worship of the martial ideals of the Roman Empire, it is because he despaired of salvation, a form of pride; he believed the magnitude of his sin to be so infinitely great, that not even God - whom he believed Jesus to be - could forgive it, and thus hanged himself rather than humble himself.
>>16591587"The Son of Man will go as it is written of Him, but woe to him by whom the Son of Man is betrayed."Yes, of course he did, anon. Can you people just actually pick up The Book for a change?
>>16594857I think this is wrong, but ultimately it doesn't matter. He's in Hell.
>>16591587No he got 72 virgins for his reward
>>16594788The death and resurrection of the Son of God was a metaphor