how will china recover from this? have their already maxxed out at a brazil tier HDI/incomewas burning down a 3000 year old civilization and turning it into a strip mall worth it?
>implement 2 child policy>birth rate CRASHES>implement 3 child policy>birth rate CRASHES to new levelsThey need to move into taiwan as soon as possible, dependency problems will kill them soon if they don't
>>16804034>how will china recover from this?AI and automation will make population numbers meaningless>have their already maxxed out at a brazil tier HDI/incomeThey're only getting started
Mass African immigration will solve everything
>>16804171>AI and automation will make population numbers meaningless How so?
>>16804361Production hasn't been linked to birth rates for literally a century. As long as you maintain production improvements, population shouldn't really matter.I'm the west the reason demographics are such a big issue is because of monetary policy, Neoliberalism relies on immigration and rampant population growth to provide deflationary pressure on wages. In China, a more planned economy, this is far less of an issue.
>>16804387On a purely economic level you might be right but human beings are not simple economic units or farm machinery . China is hardly a benovloent society even towards its own people. Is it just going to tolerate millions of people sitting around with nothing to do all day? What is the plan?
>>16804361An Iowa class battleship needed ~3000 crew to operate in WW2. When retrofitted in the 1980s that number went down by half due to the computer systems being introduced. That was with 80s computer tech. It's just one of countless many examples of how introducing even some automation/digitization can cut the required labor force.In fact numbers rarely dominated historically. Force multipliers have always been what mattered. Just 100 000 Englishmen ruled over 350 million Indians.
>>16804138Pretty much all of Chinese development is concentrated along the area of coastal cities. Of course, they were too retarded to realize that as soon as the next generation finds out that money and physical pleasure is not all it was made out to be, they would become shut-ins in accordance with their Buddhist tradition and cease having children. On the other hand, people in the countryside are still too poor to have children. They didn't eat their cake but they don't have it either; they threw the cake to the floor.
>>16804171AI is only useful to humans who want to scam other humans. Your robots are useless, they can't even stand on two legs and walk a few steps with just their own sensors, something every healthy child learns to do in the first few years of their life. There is not going to be a utopia where computer programs and machines take care of every human need. That much has been proven at this point.
>>16804413>Just 100 000 Englishmen ruled over 350 million Indians.Because a lot of those Indians hated other Indians more than they did the Brits and were happy to help them when it benefitted them.
>>16804477Robots can stand on 2 legs. Look up a thing called Boston dynamics.Most useful robots, though, don't need legs. A simple arm end effector is enough to get the job done. As a result, many existing factories already automate 95% of the labor that used to be necessary.AI is already replacing countless artists. Goldman sachs was able to replace teams of hundreds of accountants with 2 computer scientists. This happened years ago.Technology has been repeatedly underestimated at every turn, especially by political minds who lack any understanding of technology, business and other real world things that create value.
>>16804487Just proving my point numbers don't matter, brains and culture do.
They need to import sirs immediately
>>16804464>They didn't eat their cake but they don't have it either; they threw the cake to the floor.China might just start giving out the houses for free to these people or something who knows cause a lot of the new cities are completely emptyTime will tell, but I don't think the core issue can be solved
>>16804138>planned economy>went from 1 child limit to no limits at all within 4 years>shitting their pants all over the internet to the point they're botting boomer tier chinese tiktoks on normalfag american websitesI have never seen something like this from them, something internally has gone wrong especially in the last year but outsiders don't know what
>>16804533Yes. They can stand on two legs. And even walk for brief periods of time before they inevitably fall over and cannot stand back up without outside help. Those Boston Dynamics presentations? They take dozens of attempts to get right.>Most useful robots, though, don't need legs.See, the problem with this kind of thinking is that legs keep animals and humans very universal. You might have many specialized machines, but manufacturing those is in of itself costly and becomes a problem when the previous ones suddenly become useless due to changing circumstances. How much resources do those steel arms require to manufacture? And I'm not talking about the raw materials. I'm talking about energy. How many tons of coal are needed to manufacture a single steel arm? Who dug that coal up? Can a machine that digs up coal make up its cost? How long can it continue to do that when we will end up going deeper and deeper towards deposits that are harder and harder to explore?>but muh nuclear!Ignored by pretty much everyone in any serious capacity + uranium is also a finite resource. See, the huge advantage that humans have is that they run on resources that are very easily renewable, that being food.
>>16804034Invite my white American ass over there and I'll help populate the country.
>>16804534>brains and culture do.Not as much as you think.
>>16804464>too poor to have childrenThis has been repeatedly demonstrated to not be a thing
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>>16804571>something internally has gone wrong especially in the last year but outsiders don't know whatweren't they supposedly having a ton of rioting because of pooh bear "grin and bear it" stance
