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Matthew 27:46
>About three o'clock, Jesus shouted, “Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?” which means, “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?

Isn't Jesus supposed to be God (John 10:30)? I get he's quoting Psalms, but that doesn't exactly change the context of why he's saying what he's saying.
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>>16880460
He is God, but he's not God the Father. Furthermore, Jesus isn't just God, but a human, which means he has to worship God.
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The original christianity was adoptionism, see how Jesus says that he's with the father and others can be with the father too in John
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>>16880551
John also literally says that the Word was with God in the beginning and became flesh.
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>>16880460
That's because, as a human, Jesus felt given up by God. That doesn't mean He literally was, but by saying this, He was basically expressing His deep sorrow to His Father.
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>>16880460
>that doesn't exactly change the context of why he's saying what he's saying.
yes it does, he said the entire psalm. the authors of the gospels only wrote the first verse because they're jews and that's how jews refer to all the parts of their scriptures, by first words/phrases, eg
>b'raysheet ("in the beginning")
>waiyickrah ("and he called") (exodus)
have you actually read the entire psalm? it massively changes the context
>All the ends of the earth shall remember
and turn to the Lord,
>and all the families of the nations
shall worship before you.
>For kingship belongs to the Lord,
and he rules over the nations.

>isn't jesus god?
isn't he a man also?
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quoting an OT verse retard
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>>16880460
We have to see if Elijah will save him.
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>>16880460
He was actually begging Ali to help him
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>>16880460
Jesus is that Serpent of old; Lucifer, the Devil, and Satan; he tried to be God and failed.
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>>16880460
I bet while he suffered sudden realization came to him that he wasn't a son of god but only a delusional jewish apocalyptic preacher. It's basically him realizing "Oh shit, what have i done?"
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>>16882419
>>16882539
Weather. In israel. Now!
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>>16880460
>I get he's quoting Psalms, but that doesn't exactly change the context of why he's saying what he's saying.
He's quoting the Psalm 22 to signal that the prophesy in that psalm has been fulfilled.
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>>16880551
>>16880578
>Completely ignores that John says that the Word was God.
Wew.....
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The crushing realization that it was all for nothing and nobody was coming to help.
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>>16882584
IN the beginning was the Devil, and the
Devil was with God, and the Devil was
God, the Same was in the beginning
with God. All Things were made by
him; and without him was not any
thing made that was made. G-D

God-Devil

>>16881878
في البداية كان الشيطان و
كان إبليس مع الله ، وكان إبليس
الله ، نفس الشيء كان في البداية
مع الله. كل الأشياء صنعت بواسطة
له؛ وبدونه لم يكن هناك أي
الشيء الذي تم صنعه. G-D

الله الشيطان
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>>16882419
Me likes how he invented the Trinity to weasel his way into being God.
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God-Devil
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>>16884104
hehe
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>>16880460


GOD THE FATHER, GOD THE SON, GOD THE HOLY SPIRIT.

AT HIS LOWEST MOMENT, JESUSCHRIST, GOD IN HUMAN FLESH, EXPERIENCED DESPAIR.
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>>16885327
the three stooges lol
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>>16880578
that simply says he ordered Jesus into existence using his eternal words
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>>16880460
The gospel of Joh is a hoax
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>>16880460
>Isn't Jesus supposed to be God (John 10:30)?
You can't use that verse because he explicitly denied the charge of blasphemy
>Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I have said you are “gods” - John 10:34
He clearly had a very different interpretation. If you say but actually he meant it literally then you are saying Jesus lied
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>>16885534
Hawk tuah spit on that thang! -

Jesus to John the beloved
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>>16880460
Chesterton has a chapter in Orthodoxy that deals with this
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>>16885327
what is that symbol?
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>>16882581
One of the many ways to prove Christianity is retarded is to simply point out that it all hinges on a purely made-up prophetic nature of the psalms.
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>>16886115
The original Star of David.
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>>16886227
How do you determine the prophetic nature of scrpiture? By what the Jews have established? We certainly do not take their word for it, nor do we hold them in any kind of authority over us. Christ revealed the prophesies and fulfilled them, we care very little what Jews have to say about it.
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>>16880460
>>16880545
>>16880551
He was referring to his biological father, Juba II, whom died in 23 AD.
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>>16886874
>We certainly do not take their word for it
You literally worship a Jew.
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>>16887777
He was a Levitic/Josephite (Paaneah) priest of Egypt that got adopted by the Egypt-acknowledged heirs of Levi-Judah.
Judah is whom Moses married into when he left Egypt.
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>>16880578
that part was probably added later. the prevailing theory is that there was a “signs gospel” that the writer or writers of john extended upon. you don’t actually believe these allegorical writings are eyewitness historical accounts right? lol
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>>16882580
Rain with a chance of salt, sulfur and white phosphorous.
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>>16880460
It was the greatest moment in history where God denied Himself. It is a moment that is incomprehensible to humans.
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>>16880460
You are desperately trying to rationalize the inherently irrational!



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