The Japanese ranked the Chinese as more formidable and dangerous than the Americans during WW2. Why is that?
>>16887224Because the world’s largest ocean separated them from America.
>>16887224Because they needed to cope about how they were losing ground to the 4th world tier Chinese who were fighting with no or antique equipmentThe Japs coped about the US as modern Russia copes about Ukraine, that it's only because the entire worlds budget is being used by their superiorly armed enemies and that by determination and blood alone they will prevail.
>>16887224Japs are fucking retardedThey got absolutely btfo'd by a soviet border guard in 1939 which was the same army that went to die in droves in Finland
>>16887224Because Japanese propaganda depicted Americans as being cowardly, materialistic, and too spiritually inferior to defeat the Yamoto race. This belief was so strong that it informed Japanese military tactics when fighting the US.
>>16887224Japan still held most of China by the time they surrendered to America, Chinese didn't do shit
>>16887322/his/let
Wtf no, they didn't
>>16887224Because Chinese peasant-soldiers were more accustomed to hardship and stoic than British or Americans. When US and British troops faced the japs without any logistics or massive artillery/naval/air support, they surrendered way faster than the Nationalist Chinese who starved and died by the hundreds of thousands while turning many cities and towns into massive meat-grinder house to house street fights. A Chinese grunt was willing to fight in a state of semi-starvation because Chinese peasants were always in a state of semi-starvation in everyday life. It’s weird to think that the Japanese accorded more respect to Chinese foot soldiers than anglo-saxons but that’s the way it went because Chinese troops objectively fought a lot harder with next time no resources than the western allies did in the same situation. Shigeru Mizuki mentioned in his comics once that his veteran schoolteacher once asked the class which country had the strongest army in the world. One guy said america and he was wrong, one guy said Japan and the teacher said he was wrong too. The teacher said it was the Chinese because a well-motivated chink is willing to march 5,000 miles over ice barefoot while eating rats, and when japan defeats the chinks, that will show that the japanese army is the strongest army in the world.>>16887366Yeah they did. Pamphlets given out to Japanese soldiers embarking to Singapore and the phillipines in 1939-41 repeatedly emphasized that the ‘white enemy is even more feeble than the Chinese,’ yadda yadda.
Chinese troops had extremely hardened resolve when compared to amerikkans
>>16887348Keep coping Wang, the Chinese didn't win any battles against the Japanese, the Chinese were hardly even participants in the war
>>16887348Got'em>>16887394>Pamphlets given out to Japanese soldiers embarking to Singapore and the phillipinesWell they turned out to be right in those cases, the British did horrible at Singapore. Utterly humiliating.
>>16887224They were willing to do something dangerously stupid and kill millions of chinaman for a couple thousand japs
>>16887394With *next to no resources, sorry.But yeah, >>16887402 is objectively true. American troops in the phillipines rolled over in the face of a Japanese offensive way faster than the Chinese did. Chinks didn’t exactly fight well, but they fought hard, with nothing but rifles. The US mostly sat back and let their taxpayer dollars go to work mogging japan with their vastly superior industrial base with not too many casualties.
>>16887224Because for most of the period they were fighting Chinese
>>16887404>Well they turned out to be right in those cases, the British did horrible at SingaporeYeah that’s what I’m saying. When you compare how quickly British and American troops folded in Singapore and the phillipines to the massive Stalingrad-esque bloodshed that took place in a lot of Chinese cities like Changsha, from 1937-1942 or so I would much rather be an imperial Japanese grunt in Singapore than on the Chinese mainland. Obviously that situation would be reversed as the US’s war industry kicked into high gear but still.
>>16887394>Yeah they did. Pamphlets given out to Japanese soldiers embarking to Singapore and the phillipines in 1939-41 repeatedly emphasized that the ‘white enemy is even more feeble than the Chinese,’ yadda yadda.The best IJN units were rerouted to the Pacific and underequipped fortress units sent to China. That is a far better indicator than some supposed pamphlets the existence of which is questionable at best.
>>16887427>the massive Stalingrad-esque bloodshed that took place in a lot of Chinese cities like ChangshaThere was like 50,000 casualties for the IJA at Changsha. Meanwhile the Soviets had 2.6 million casualties at Stalingrad and the Axis casualties were 1.5 million.
>>16887435uh huh. Like i said, the situation reversed when the US and UK got their balls reattached and their industrial efforts started to pick up. China became a backwater theatre in late 1942 or so once that happened. But prior to that, It was objectively a picnic to be an island-hopping Japanese soldier fighting the Western powers in southeast Asia compared to wrestling every last back alley and street out of the chinks' hands in a Chinese population center. >>16887441big fucking urban fight etc etc. My point is that at no time in the early stages of the Pacific War did British and American troops show a willingness to fight as stubbornly as Nationalist Chinese while having zero resources.
>>16887441>There was like 50,000 casualties for the IJA at Changshaand there were like 5,000 Jap casualties at Singapore and 10,000 Jap casualties as they were closing the noose around American forces at Bataan. that's my point.
>>16887452>China became a backwater theatre in late 1942 or so once that happenedNo, all the best units were rerouted to the Pacific from the very beginning of the PTO part of the war. At Singapore the IJA sent Imperial Guards, 5th Infantry, 18th Infantry, and 4 tank regiments, 1 tank company, 1 AT battalion, 8 AT companies, 1 motorized transport company. They did the same in the Philippines, sending multiple tank and artillery regiments, engineers, motorized transports, and the 16th division which was one of their 10 or so usable divisions.
>>16887530>No, all the best units were rerouted to the Pacific from the very beginning of the PTO part of the waryou're misunderstanding me. i didn't say the IJA's best units were sent to the PTO in late 1942, i said China became a backwater around that time and that the fighting in China was a lot bigger and more intense than the PTO prior to New Guinea and Guadalcanal, during/after which the PTO fighting became a lot worse for Japs.
>>16887541yeah that's fair. IJA no longer had the weapons and motorization advantage at that point so it was just a slugfest.
>>16887224>whybecause chyna 50x the size of tiny island japan
