Objectively as possible, what would most early Christians from the first couple of centuries likely think about practices as implied by this picture?
Anything but what Prots and New Agers on Tiktok say
>>16889857What exactly is this anything you refer to? How would a typical early Christian of one of the more orthodox streams of the church at large think of such things?
>>16889852The reason the angel said she is full of grace is that she needed a lot of forgiveness in order to receive the son of God. The fact that she was needing to be filled with grace at all implies heavily that she was as fallen as any of the rest needing salvation.
>>16889852Not a catholarper but since every extant church from the first centuries AD venerate her including the ethiopian and indian churches wouldnt that be the most likely view (thiugh early church had gnostics and arians in it so there was some variation)
>>16890143How much of that would be back-projecting by current Catholic/Orthodox/Other theologians? What do archaeology and early historical records have to say, in addition to the Christian scriptures, in how Christians of the first two hundred or even three hundred years were more likely to view these practices? By the 5th century, along with the deposed Bishop of Constantinople Nestorius, the Church of the East got excommunicated by western churches after a council over the matter of whether Mary should be addressed as Theotokos (God-Bearer) or Christotokos (Christ-Bearer).
>>16890166>east/west was about Maryno. and btw east is obviously right on that one.
>>16890166>>16890191>Nestorius of Constantinople rejected the title Theotokos for the mother of the incarnated Word. He insisted that Mary as a human being could give birth only to a human being, and not to God. He persisted in calling the Virgin Mary Christotokos. This teaching jeopardised the salvation of the human raceWhat a mess
>>16889852You're probably right, it is bunk. I can't imagine anyone very early on having such developed rituals regarding Mary.
>>16890166>along with the deposed Bishop of Constantinople Nestorius, the Church of the East got excommunicated by western churches after a council over the matter of whether Mary should be addressed as Theotokos>>16890191>no east/west wasn’t about Mary>and btw east is obviously right on that one.>*pic of great schism 1056*The UTTER STATE of Palamites, completely unaware of the schism at Ephesus but confident enough to declare which side was right obviously right in 1056.Let me guess, you just converted?
