If Jesus was a real person why was the cult he allegedly started unable or uninterested in preserving a single piece of evidence about his historical life, despite their belief that this person was god and the most important person to ever live? All they have is a story about a magic flying Jew that talks to clouds written anonymously in a foreign land, in a foreign language, half a century later by people who never met him.
>>17088299>If Jesus was a real person why was the cult he allegedly started unable or uninterested in preserving a single piece of evidence about his historical life, despite their belief that this person was god and the most important person to ever live?The Gospels>Inb4 not evidenceScholars disagree.
>>17088299>If Jesus was a real person Jesus is real.
>>17088299Only jews care about trying to discredit the veracity of Jesus.
WHERE ARE THE BOMES
OP here, I forgot to mention I'm jewish btw
>>17088327>Scholars disagree.You want to try that again? > the gospels were never simply biographical, they were propaganda and kerygma (preaching),[5] meant to convince people that Jesus was a charismatic miracle-working holy man.[4][6] As such, they present the Christian message of the second half of the first century AD,[7] and modern biblical scholars are cautious of relying on the gospels uncritically as historical documents,
>>17088415They have enough in there, along with some extra-Biblical sources, to prove two facts:Jesus was baptised.Jesus was killed by crucifixion.We have more evidence of Jesus's existence than we have of some Roman emperors, and no one claims that these emperors do not exist.
>>17088415>> the gospels were never simply biographical,So they do indeed contain biographical information, correct?
>>17088415Bart Ehrman even disagrees with you >inb4 le using Harry Potter to prove to prove le Harry Potter
>>17088299We have the Shroud and some other holy relics. The Romans burned down the rest in 70 AD.
>>17088569>Shroudlol>and some other holy relics.LOL
>>17088616Ok but what do (you) have to prove your claim?
>>17088569Did the romans burn any records of Herod the great yeeting a bunch of kids?
>>17088299>guys lets get together and totally fabricate that the messiah has come not even 50 years ago - nobody in humanity could possibly remember that long of a time span>do you think people will believe us?>no in fact well be mocked and scorned>well surely well get something out of this ruse?>yes! excruciating torture and shameful deaths!>...lets do it!2/10 got me to reply
>>17088767Actually, what you just said makes sense. Considering that the authentic Pauline epistles were first gathered together by Marcion in the 130s, the apocalyptic message of Jesus being disseminated during the Bar Kokhba revolt and the little details of Paul's letters demonstrating that the cult was in Jerusalem lines up well with mythicism. If basically everyone who saw the resurrection was in Jerusalem, including the main apostles, then all the witnesses were killed in the siege.
>>17088522>We have more evidence of Jesus's existence than we have of some Roman emperorsReally? Which Roman emperors are attested solely by a story about them flying around in the sky and talking to clouds, written by anonymous people who never met them?
>>17088616>zero counter argumentsmug chud in denial, eternal damnation awaits.
>>17088778and this is going on the classical secularist assumption that everyone in antiquity was a naive gullible retard that would never stop to ask questions or have second thoughts whatsoeveryes, you, personally, are SO MUCH SMARTER than all of humanity from 1900 years ago until now, LITERALLY NO ONE has even had the GALL to question thistruly a golden era in human thought can begin now thanks to some guy posting on a Sentinelese astrophysics forum
>>17088910Yes, I am smarter than the damned gullible slaves and women who fell for it. Want to know why the polemics against Christianity weren't preserved outside of the writings of Church Fathers? Because NO ONE COPIED THEM you dumb bastard. Do you know how many works from the ancient world we've lost forever? People did say something, but if you don't remember, Rome basically fell in a quasi-apocalypse where only monks (aka fanatical Christians) could preserve these ancient texts from time.
>>17088919theyre going to build statues of you anon, just wait and see. you really owned those Christcucks with how much of a smart free thinker you are
