So let me get this straight… England colonised Ireland. England sought to replace the Irish with anglosEngland genocided the Irish and horribly oppressed them, attempting to wipe them out but somehow failing even though they had total control of Ireland for hundreds of years How exactly did ireland remain mostly Irish if they did all this? Seems more likely England didn’t try to do all these things
>>17092740>how did ireland remain mostly irish
The only real attempt at settling Ireland was ulster, and those settlers weren’t English, they were almost entirely Scottish Also one of the big reasons they migrated was because of a famine happening in Scotland from 1696-1698Notice how this is not called a genocide of the Scottish people. Or remembered as some horrific atrocity. Even though the Irish famine and the migration of Irish people to various places outside of Ireland is the exact same phenomenonApparently the British were trying to destroy the Irish population by… letting them migrate to England and become the majority of cities like liverpool
>>17092740>How exactly did ireland remain mostly Irish if they did all this?>Seems more likely England didn’t try to do all these thingsDing Ding Ding! We have a winner. If England had tried even half of the shit it gets accused of by the Irish Ireland would still be ruled from London. At this point we're only a few years away from Irish 'historians' claiming that the evil Brits were raping Irish babies and then feeding them to the dogs for sport.
>>17092740The Irish, just loke the Jews, were badly treated but if they were treated in any similar way to contemporaries (cathars or ptotestants in france) they would have ceased go exist
>>17092740>England colonised Ireland. Yes.>England sought to replace the Irish with anglosOnly in urban areas in certain places, they kept the Irish around for labour on farms. Many were displaced though.>England genocided the Irish and horribly oppressed them, attempting to wipe them out but somehow failing Not really, the genocide accusations aren't taken seriously by Irish historians. Millions were displaced forcibly, yes, but not exterminated. However you're right, it took centuries for them to consolidate their control over Ireland due to a mix of incompetence in their efforts and fierce resistance from the Gaels at various points.>How exactly did ireland remain mostly Irish if they did all this? Read all of the above, although as someone pointed out Irish culture was almost wiped out.>>17093158>Ding Ding Ding!!!Most Irish historians would disagree with OP's understanding of Irish history. Making things up and saying "uh, doesn't sound right to me!!!" doesn't make it some big very smart thing. We aren't "a few years away" from Irish history becoming less anglophilic, it already happened in the late 20th Century/early 21st Century during and after the Troubles.>>17093337Your post goes too far in the other direction. Ireland's history since approximately the 14th Century has been one completely dominated by (negative) interactions with England. The sole period of what can be called conifdent+pragmatic governance of Ireland was a couple of decades at the end of the 19th Century, when Britain threw money at Land Reform after the Famine-and that was only because they wanted to kill off the Home Rule movement which sought to undo the deeply unpopular Act of Union.This is a very weird thread of people insinuating things that no Irish historian believes or espouses and then frowning and saying "yeah...doesn't seem right..."Then again, this is one of a trillion threads of people here complaining about Ireland or its history so it's expected.
