This is like a fever dream, or some bad historical fanfiction. Turkic conquests and Mongol conquests too to a degree, but I still think it takes the cake. How the hell did they do it?
>>17242214Romans and Persians had spent their entire history going to war with each other every few decades and forgot a new emerging power could take advantage of their constant fighting
>>17242214>Abdul be in Kabul by 664Arabs were breeding on Aryan bacha bazi boys this early. Kek
>>17242237I get that, but the Sassanid state completely crumpled before them. The Romans were devastated. There was no great revolt from the former's non-Semitic non-Abrahamic population, the nobility was fine becoming Muslim, the Byzantines failed to get their shit together for a few more centuries and never pursued any great reconquest. The Visigoths fell even more pathetically, and whatever powers were left in Central Asia and India were also conquered, overextension be damned. The cherry on top being the defeat of a Tang expedition when they were at their peak at Talas. It's still surreal to me, comparable to Alexander's conquests really.
>>17242214>How the hell did they do it?Islam is superior to Christianity as midwit state slaves religion.Islam started from better more productive lands, then classic snowball (play map painting games).
Persia imploded in civil war and the byzantines were only marginally better off after their "victory"
Here's a redpill for you: Turns out conquest is pretty easy if you organize your entire state around constant expansion. Really any country that just set their mind on it literally "just did it". The macedonians, romans, arabs, mongols, turks, russia, usa etc. Most states didn't expand much because they never really tried hard enough.
>>17242260Islamic is a great militaristic conquest-expansion religion.Christianity struggled to justify holding the holy land let alone conquering other advanced societies. The only thing that worked with it was colonisation and converting heathens.
>>17242269Hmm
>>17242214You don't realize by now that islam is actively supported by demons? It can't get much more obvious.
>>17242282The point is that most countries never really tried. These ones tried and failed, and the reason was that they were fighting other expansive empires, the USA and the USSR. Obviously if two of these types of countries clash then one of them is going to win and the other is going to lose. Imperialism became popular in the 19th century, increasing the chance of the opponent also being an imperialists but before that most countries in history never had the mindset to begin with. So the expansive countries like the ones I mentioned mostly had to fight non-expansive countries, gobbling them up until they collapsed under their own weight.
>>17242311Like Christians didnt think the same about them, or like Romans werent genocidal chimps forcibly assimilating cultures and enslaving whole people.I really dont mind this rhetoric because I want to do the same to them. If you dont you are a pussy.
>>17242214>how did they conquer all that desertby using camels
>>17242260Islam is totally disproven by the fact that not only did Byzantium and the Sassanids not fall at the same time but the Ummayads got turned back a century later. >The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Khosrau will be ruined, and there will be no Khosrau after him, and Caesar will surely be ruined and there will be no Caesar after him, and you will spend their treasures in Allah's Cause."https://sunnah.com/bukhari/56/235-238 (it's also in Muslim)The Muslim cope for this is that it's just talking about Roman presence in the Levant (or even that the title Caesar was dependent on ruling the Levant, I have literally seen them claim this). But it's obviously not saying that. There are other hadiths that talk about a successful siege of Constantinople and the Islamic Antichrist emerging immediately after that too and he is very obviously describing medieval warfare (in that and other eschatological hadiths that involve war). He was a failed apocalyptic prophet who was clearly expecting the end of the world to come in the near future.
>>17242477>Khosrau will be ruined, and there will be no Khosrau after him, and Caesar will surely be ruined and there will be no Caesar after him,Where are they now?
>>17242499There were literally over 30 more caesars after the caesar being referred to. We are closer to the fall of Byzantium than Muhammad was. It's an obvious failed prophecy.
And Constantinople/Byzantium is supposed to fall as part of the end times wars that immediately precede the Dajjal too. I am too lazy to find that in the eschatological hadiths but it's there, you can read Ibn Kathir's book on the end times if you don't believe me. The consequence of this is that Muslims who know about it have to invent ridiculous interpretations like saying that Constantinople is going to be reconquered by Christians and then conquered again by Muslims, Muhammad was talking about that second Muslim conquest of course. Or when he talks about swords being used in these wars that's because there is going to be nuclear war and we'll return to medieval technology. Subhanallah, look at this hadith that says birds will fall dead from the sky in Malhama, clearly nukes (except it's a dishonest translation of hadiths saying that Malhama will be so big that a bird would die before it was able to fly from one end to the other of the battle itself, very different).
>>17242631>And Constantinople/Byzantium is supposed to fall as part of the end times warsIt kinda did, it ended the middle ages and ushered in the murderous madness of the 16th and 17th centuries. >DajjalOttoman "Caliphs" Common Muhammad W
>>17242639>Ottoman "Caliphs"Okay then who is the Mahdi and since the "Dajjal" has already been slain where is the millennial reign of Isa? You can allegorize this stuff all day but if you take the plain meaning of these hadiths and many others you can only conclude he was convinced the world was going to end soon.
>>17242643>millennial reign of IsaThe United States of America. >you can only conclude he was convinced the world was going to end soonThe Muslim conquests happened after his death. You are applying hindsight knowledge to him. I really dont think he expected Islam to steamroll the entire east and besiege Constantinople only decades after his death.
>>17242678Kek. I think most of the hadiths are from much later and do not even record things he really said but if these don't then why do they fail the criterion of embarrassment so hard?
>>17242693>then why do they fail the criterion of embarrassment so hardWhat?
>>17242214>How the hell did they do it?Islam was created so that the brown and black people of the world could also worship the one true God. They were not the ones called by the son of God, but they were not forgotten and angels were sent to their prophet to teach them how to serve.Unfortunately they forgot where God upon the earth is found and they instead worship a cube.
>>17242214A Semitic reconquest
>>17242779Oh now this is drama!
>>17242214The "third temple" was built and it was Hagia Sophia - Cosntantiople was the economic catpitol of the world sort of like how London is now, or New York. The Arabs challenged them put a stop to that, with the Latins putting the final nail in the coffin, especially once the Europeans started minting their own gold coins instead of relying on Constantiple and their old Roman economic monopoly.Remember Muhammad was a (((merchant))).
>>17242838The same way we bemoan the internationalist bankers/city of london/rothschilds - must have been the same way everyone at the time bemowned those swarthy Jewish Armenian Greeks, who were larping as Latins, while really acting like Semitic Carthaginians.
>>17242214The early Islamic conquests is one of the most epic events in human history.>When Rostam (Persian) asked, "What has brought you?" Rib'i ibn 'Amir replied "Allah has sent us to bring forth whomsoever He wills from the worship of creation to the worship of the Creator, from the narrowness of this world to its vastness, and from the injustice of other religions to the justice of Islam. He has sent us with His religion and invited us to it. If you accept it, we will leave you in peace. If you refuse, we will impose the jizya upon you. If you refuse this as well, we will declare war upon you."
>>17242849You are mentally ill
Divine intervention given how irrelevant arabs became after the sack of baghdad
>>17242857>favorite wife of the Khan was Christian so the Christians were sparedChefskiss Shame once again men had to ruin everything, imagine the Mongols became Christian. Islam wouldnt even exist anymore.
>>17242849> The Byzantine economy was among the most robust economies in the Mediterranean for many centuries. Constantinople was a prime hub in a trading network that at various times extended across nearly all of Eurasia and North Africa. Some scholars argue that, up until the arrival of the Arabs in the 7th century, the Eastern Roman Empire had the most powerful economy in the world. The Arab conquests, however, would represent a substantial reversal of fortunes contributing to a period of decline and stagnation. Constantine V’s reforms (c. 765) marked the beginning of a revival that continued until 1204. From the 10th century until the end of the 12th, the Byzantine Empire projected an image of luxury, and the travelers were impressed by the wealth accumulated in the capital.>One of the economic foundations of the empire was the trade. The state strictly controlled both the internal and the international trade and retained the monopoly of issuing coinage. Constantinople remained the single most important commercial center of Europe for much of the Medieval era…>The state retained the monopoly of issuing coinage and had the power to intervene in other important sectors of the economy. It exercised formal control over interest rates and set the parameters for the activity of the guilds and corporations in Constantinople, in which the state has a special interest (e.g. the sale of silk) or whose members exercised a profession that was of importance for trade.>Imports and exports were uniformly taxed at ten percent.
>>17242724https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criterion_of_embarrassmentDoes nobody here actually like history
>>17242280The comparison is spot on and in Hitler's Table Talks he mentions admiring Islam for being a warrior religion like the old German/Nordic religion and culture. Thus the accurate Odin comparison by Jung, and why Savitri Devi calls him a reincarnation of Vishnu the "destroyer" god. I guess this is why Nasserism and the Ba'ath party in the middle east are technically nationalist socialist, or "Fascists" as their Commie (Christian) enemies would like to say.
