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>>17266448
Cultural enrichment of the British Isles.

It's great that this island received so much inflow of European culture from the vikings to the French to the Dutch(jews). If not it would have just been a plot of retarded little celtic goblins and produced nothing notable for the human race like the Irish
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>au nom du roi de France
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>not a single drop of french blood
more or less true
>we da real french
does anyone in ingerland still claim this?
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>>17266448
>Aethelred the Unready is king of England
>He marries the daughter of the Duke of Normandy (Emma)
>They have a son named Edward
>Sweyn Forkbeard from Norway conquers England
>his son Canute inherits it (king of Norway/England)
>Canute marries Emma
>Edward goes to live in Normandy with his Norman kinsmen
>They have two sons who became King of England
>They both die childless
>Edward from earlier becomes the new King
>Edward has no children
>Closest relative are all Normans
>Invites his kinsman William to rule
>William asks the Pope
>Pope agrees
>Anglo-Saxons chimp out
>Half the kingdom invites some random Norwegian king, the other half invites some rich Anglo-Saxon count who may have assassinated Edward
>William makes a set of laws that are pretty good
>Seething Anglo-Saxon supremacist weirdos today hate him
>But most everyone agrees it was a good thing
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>>17266684
England only became Christian so Aethelberht of Kent could get a taste of sweet Frankish pussy
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>>17266684
the pope only gave his blessing because the english didn't practice Christianity the same as the continent. The confessor was brought up in france and tried to implement religious reforms to make england more like normany, but the people rose up and beat up edwards french cronies.

Edward chimped out at the noble english defending there religious rights and so he ordered Earl godwin to kill everyone in Dover, where the french were assaulted, Godwin being a chad of the people refused the collective punishment. so edward, being a vicdictive little bitch exiled him and his sons.

but Godwin returns anyway and cucks edward into become a religious recluse whilst he and his sons control all the major counties of england.

the pope backs william like he would back the crusaders. this was not a invasion of succession but about imposing religious authority. edward also likely promised william the throne because he was bitter about the english cucking his norman simping ass.

Anyway before the invasion the north of england is in rebellion, Harold rides north and manages to find a peaceful resolution. after the invasion the north is in rebellion and william the bastard slaughters 75% of the population. problem is that the north was as economically powerful as the south so william just ruined half the kingdom because he doesn't know how diplomacy works. borderline retarded king.

Anglosaxon england was one of the most literate in medieval europe and all of that went to waste.
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>>17267316
>>17266684
There's little evidence the pope's "approval" of the invasion was anything more than a hasty, post-hoc recognition of William's success. Even the Norman accounts contradict themselves, like claiming the pope approved the invasion...and then demanded William build an abbey as penance for..the invasion
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>>17267335
william's army carried papal banners.

some of this banners were given to him by the pope before the battle to formally approve his campaign against the insolent anglos.

or maybe they made that bit up.
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>>17267372
Only according to heavily-biased Norman accounts, which don't even make sense in hindsight.

The head of the church in England that the pope opposed was only deposed after a papal legation arrived four years after the invasion - and that same legation demanded penance from everyone involved in the invasion. Finally, William had himself crowned a second time in the legations presence, which is far-fetched for an invasion that (ostensibly) had the pope's approval.

Reading between the lines the most obvious interpretation is that he just got post-hoc approval after the blood had dried
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>>17267371
Most French people are Irish Gauls with some Frankish.
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Where Noyon's tow'rs rise o*er the plain.
And Oise flows onward to the Seine,
Two banner'd hosts in ranks advance:
Here, Lewis leads the powers of France;
Henry of England, there, commands
His English and his Norman bands
See his arm the foremost crush.
The island spearmen onward rash;
While the bold chivalry of France
Recoils before the Norman lance;
And mattered oaths reveal their shame,
As they curse the conqueror's name.
So distant ages long shall tell
Of gallant Henry, first to quell
On his own soil the Frenchman's pride,
Where Noyon's field with blood was dyed;
And conq'ring England's mighty son
The spoils and laurell'd trophies won.
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>>17267371
so essentially they look like normal people?
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>>17268477
missing the point lol
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>>17266448
Says a lot about 1066 that I can read some of the words in French but I can’t read any of what I assume is Anglo saxon. RIP.
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>>17267371
the nordicist francophile is spamming again
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>>17266448
>We da real French
Whose the idiot that made this picture? Literally nobody in English history has ever uttered these words lmao
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>>17269748
>What is the 100 years war?
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>>17269859
That was a dynastic struggle where a Plantagenet had a squabble with his cousin over who gets to inherit the family property, it does not translate into any common English person saying "we are the real French" lol
Do you have autism or some other disorder that hampers your ability to understand the social world? Come on this should've been fucking obvious man
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>>17266448
He should've won instead of William bros.
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>>17267741
>>17267751
kek
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>>17270735
Imagine an English language with no French influence.

Half my sentence above even has French-rooted words.
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>>17270775
French isn't 'French' at all lol
Such is life
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>>17266519
It’s the reason America had to be created retard who now pretty much dominate the west. If the French would have minded their own damn business my family would still be in Liverpool.
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>>17266448
King Edward died and both Harold and William claimed with absolutely no evidence that he actually said he was their heir despite the fact Edward had been parading around Edgar for the better part of a decade as his heir
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>>17266448
It was the point where the last True King of England fell, nobly, in battle against a literal bastard raider and oath-breaker. The bastard oath-breaker then went on to enormous damage to the institutions and people of England, and dragged us into all the political bullshit he brought over from Europe.
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>>17271006
Harold usurped the throne though
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>>17271010
Internal contests for the throne are a completely different thing, and indeed part of the English system of monarchy. He was right to take the throne when and how he did, indeed it was his right to take the throne.
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>>17271013
>and indeed part of the English system of monarchy
There has not been a single usuption of the throne for over 250 years by that point so no it wasn't.
>He was right to take the throne when and how he did
According to who? Himself?
>indeed it was his right to take the throne.
He wasn't related to the royal family, he wasn't made heir by Edward, he wasn't even on friendly terms with Edward.
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>>17271055
grow up, retard
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>>17267316
>>17267335
>>17267372
William's soldiers were given one year of penance for shedding the blood of other Christians.
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>>17271055
Do you honestly believe this? Or are you just being contrarian for it's own sake/fun?
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>>17271110
>>17271203

o'dear the yanks are in the european history threads. here they go to the ruin it with their terrible takes and hideous writing style.
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>>17271291
Not an American, and if you're that desperate to avoid having to defend your claim then it's clear that you're bullshitting. Have fun with that.
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>>17271305
NTA but get off your high horse, you yourself didn't say what was wrong with his post you just called him a retard
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>>17266448
It was the best of times. It was the worst of times.
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>>17271410
>Me: Describes a thing
>That Anon: HAHAHA NO U R WRON!!!!
>Me: Umm, OK, that sounds retarded
>You: NO U
Cool story bro
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>>17271055
>he wasn't even on friendly terms with Edward.
The bestest argument so far.
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The fuck was wrong with that BASTARD
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>>17269744
Checking under my bed for the nordicists. I think a nordicist just flew over my house as well.
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>>17272210
A real jerk
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>>17266448
They won and they got Hastings
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>>17266448
This looks like it was made by a schizo
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>>17266448
What if Norway won
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>>17272376
Probably lose control of England within 30 years and England goes back to how it was
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>>17272545
The best possible outcome
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>>17272566
It'd certainly be interesting
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>>17266448
The Normans were actually Nordic; the Anglos had successfully expelled Viking raids from their land, and these same Vikings had to settle in the northern part of France. They had caused so much trouble to the Franks that they had to give them part of their land; in short, thanks to Anglos, Normandy was born.
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>>17272586
The Normans at the time of Hastings were at the third generation of mutting with the French so they were about 1/8 Nordic
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>>17272586
>TFW your ancestors won so hard it comes back to bite you.
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>>17267372
>>17267483
the papal banner is portrayed in the bayeux tapestry more than once
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>>17271203
How is any of this wrong? The last successful usurption of power in Wessex was Cynewulf's assasination of Sigeberht. So for what is more like 300 years there had not been a violent usurption of power from inside of the country.
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>>17273592
>The tapestry distills all the decision-making into a single decisive meeting within a turreted Norman palace [scene 32]. Nowhere does it mention Pope Alexander's blessing and amongst all the flags depicted in the work (of which there are many) the papal banner has never been identified with certainty.
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>>17273603
The king's choice of a successor was ultimately contingent on the Witan approving it. The Witan approved Harold (likely because Edgar was an inexperienced teen that no one really wanted on the throne anyway), simple as
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>>17273692
>The king's choice of a successor was ultimately contingent on the Witan approving it
The Witan as a deciding body had been defunct since Edward the Elder. They merely existed to confirm the king's choice. They had no real power. The kings successor was the one he chose, not that of the Witans.
> The Witan approved Harold (likely because Edgar was an inexperienced teen that no one really wanted on the throne anyway)
Harold didn't actually legitimise himself through the Witan, he was already king when it was called up. All of his justification was the Edward made him his heir. Even in the eyes of the people at the time the Witans opinion was basically worthless and it was rather Edward's say which mattered. Nor does it matter that Edgar was underage, there had been two regencies in the past before. The fact of the matter is that Harold wanted to be king so he exiled Edgar who was the only person with a legitimate claim, made himself king and got the Witan to rubber stamp what he said.
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>>17273702
And yet no one bothered backing Edgar's claim before Hastings, other than the survivors scrambling around for any domestic opposition to William and foreign powers that wanted to use Edgar to their own ends.
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>>17273711
>And yet no one bothered backing Edgar's claim before Hastings
Harold was the undisputed most powerful man in England and had managed to to co-opt the royal government in Edwards final days. There wasn't exactly anybody in a position to defy him or with any time to actually do so considering his reign lasted only months and he was on campaign nearly the entire time. It is impossible to gauge how much support Harold actually had. You could as easily say nobody vouched for Harold either because there wasn't much a choice in the matter.
>and foreign powers that wanted to use Edgar to their own ends.
His father in law, who had excellent relations with Edward?
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>>17273718
>His father in law, who had excellent relations with Edward?
Edgar married?
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>>17273720
My mistake his brother in law.
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>>17273726
So why didn't Edgar marry?
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>>17273736
How the fuck am I supposed to know why somebody decided not to marry 1000 years ago? Athelstan never married, Basil II didn't either, why? Nobody knows.
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>>17273740
Could've been fruity, zesty etc
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>>17273736
Apparently he did later in life and had a daughter, but that could just be a local family trying to big up their ancestry. William of Malmesbury is salty and calls him a fool who could have lived like a king in service of the emperor but instead retired to a farm.

Edgar was too good for this woeld
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>>17266684
Norman yoke. Harrying of the north. Etc.
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Norman saw on English oak.
On English neck a Norman yoke;
Norman spoon to English dish,
And England ruled as Normans wish;
Blithe world in England never will be more,
Till England's rid of all the four.
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>>17266448
https://news-zp.ru/society/2024/11/18/407497

Only the Nazi white pigs enslave them. Go to hell you Nazi retard subhuman pig.
Racist white pig who discriminates against Asians
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>>17270775
>Imagine an English language with no French influence.
Yeah it's called Frisian
Memes aside, even German itself has French influence, it's just less extreme than English but ya ain't escaping the Loan Words any time soon.
German words like: Strasse, Fenster, Tanz, Medizin, Schule, Armee, Soldat, Chance, Robe, Auto, etc... are all French/Latin derived (Germans like to keep the French pronunciation for some of them too, e.g. the way they say "Chance")



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