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This could be the most disastrous conquest ever. All the peoples occupied by the Achaemenid Persians were corrupted, their pride was broken, and they became an easy prey for every occupier, the Assyrians, the Copts, and the Babylonians etc. Note that there is no national state for these peoples since to the Achaemenid invasion. All of their rulers are the product of foreign dynasties. The Persians are the ones who put an end to the civilizations of the Fertile Crescent, the first human civilization, but in a strange way the Arabs are accused of this, these people were already buck broken, irrelevant and their original culture almost went extinct a thousand years before the arrival of the Arabs.
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>2,000 years of being fucked in the ass
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>>17267773
What happens in the 18th Satrapy
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>>17267773
The "Islamic golden age" is the legacy of the declining Persian civilization.
stop your whining.
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>>17267773
>the Assyrians
Defeated by the Babylonians, which is why they stopped being a thing
> the Copts
Didn't exist yet and the Egyptians were in rebellion for nearly half of the Empire's time in existence. Which already proves your point wrong
>Note that there is no national state for these peoples since to the Achaemenid invasion.
Egyptian rebels, Judeah, the Armenian states, most of Central Anatolia wasn't even conquered until the Roman period.
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>>17267773
>Rats in ruins wuz Kangz
Persians replaced Assyrians who replaced Libyans who replaced Nubians who replaced Sea people.
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>>17267775
Damn, Greeks were really gay.
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>>17267807
>Didn't exist
Maybe the term Copts isn’t good, but I meant the native Egyptians, ever since the Persian conquest Egypt has been under foreign rule.
>Egyptian rebels
Woah what a great empire, the Egyptians had a short period of independence, around 60 years, the Achaemenid conquered them again, then 10 years later came Alexander.
>Judeah
Didn’t contribute much to the old civilizations of the Fertile Crescent, Hasmonean dynasty only lasted for 100 years anyway
>Armenian states
Armenians didn’t get affected by the Persians like the people of Egypt or modern day Syria or Iraq, they don’t count
>anatolia
Anatolia was also under foreign rule ever since the Achaemenid conquest, central Anatolia was ruled by the Ariarathid dynasty, who are Iranian foreigners, not natives.
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>>17268759
>Woah what a great empire
Since when did it have to be an empire?
>the Egyptians had a short period of independence, around 60 years
60 years is not a short period to be independent for against a power constantly at war with you.
>Armenians didn’t get affected by the Persians like the people of Egypt or modern day Syria or Iraq, they don’t count
Just because they don't fit your narrative doesn't mean they don't count.
>Anatolia was also under foreign rule ever since the Achaemenid conquest
Most of anatolia was still ruled by natives, outside of Pontus most of the region still had their own sub-kings like the Isaurians which wouldn't finally be crushed until the 5th century. Both Greek and Persian control of the region was notoriously poor, control was largely nominal and didn't represent real control.
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>>17267773
Georgians have a national state and so do Armenians
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>>17267779
Scorched earth tactics and disappointment
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>>17268867
>60 years is not a short period to be independent for against a power constantly at war with you
They got conquered again and were never under native rule again.
>Just because they don't fit your narrative doesn't mean they don't count.
Because they are the different case, Armenia isn’t part of the Fertile Crescent or its civilisations
> Most of anatolia was still ruled by natives
What’s the names of these dynasties?
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>>17267773
The Persians didn't destroy the civilizations of the Fertile Crescent, they saved the little that was left of it. Had it not been for the numerous conquerors who came to those countries and bring government, the region would, today, long have devolved into a state of total anarchy. The Middle East, today, gives the impression of a very chaotic and disorderly place; however, it has been that way ever since the fall of the Macedonian dynasties who ruled them, and it is only through the action of the blood of their invaders that they have mantained a civilized way of life until this day.
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>>17269226
Well they had another go but Kushites betrayed them

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horwennefer
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>>17267795
>Allow Jews to keep a foothold in your empire
>They stab you in the back and facilitate the destruction of your empire
EVERY
TIME
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>>17267773
Assyrians continued to speak Assyrian, Babylonians continued to speak Babylonian, and Levantines continued to speak Aramaic alongside other dialects (Roman police action in Judea notwithstanding) for over a millennium after the reign of Darius I.
Yet, it only took a century or two of Arab supremacist rule, with the Abrahamic mind virus 3.0 as their operating system, for the peoples of the Near East to be irrevocably stripped their once immortal cultures and customs.
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>>17269226
>They got conquered again and were never under native rule again.
Ok and? Your original point was 'All the peoples occupied by the Achaemenid Persians were corrupted, their pride was broken, and they became an easy prey for every occupier' when this clearly wasn't the case because for the next 800 years they would revolt often and attempt to breka free of invading powers.
> Armenia isn’t part of the Fertile Crescent or its civilisations
Armenia was part of the same political community that made up the Near East, same with anatolians. Why do they suddenly not count just cause?
>What’s the names of these dynasties?
Well your first problem is that these people generally did not have dynasties and rarely are their rulers recorded. We know the peoples who were in the region
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>>17267795
Name one pre Islamic Persian scholar
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>>17271511
Paul the Persian, Ostanes, Borzuya, etc



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