How did European and American capitalists manage to kill all the idealist african leaders and spare all hyper corrupt ones?
Neocolonialists preferred leaders who could be bought, because American and European companies were among the ones handing out the bribes.
>>17268665But how fid they accomplish. Even entities that weren't bound to the western market, such as communist Ethiopia, were turned corrupt by cia and others
>>17268653The eternal timmy fears the power of NGUBU
black idealists are just as corrupt as the african warlords, there's not a single black idealist in US history that wasn't mixed race and they were ll socialists
Would ibdi amin have bern remembered as a promising leader if the brits had iced him for some reason?
>>17268653This is nothing more than a cope. They just simply never stayed in power long enough for us to see the extent of their corruption.
>>17268653nigga looking zesty AF...
>>17268653it's these corrupt politicians that yearned for French and British support. See Bokassa.>At first, France was reluctant to support Bokassa, and Banza had to travel to Paris to convince the French government that the coup had prevented the country from descending into anarchy. Bokassa met Prime Minister Georges Pompidou on July 7, 1966, who continued to refuse to commit to supporting the Central African president. Finally, after Bokassa threatened to leave the franc zone, Charles de Gaulle agreed to receive him on an official visit to the Élysée Palace on November 17, 1966, which Bokassa took to mean that France had endorsed the coup d'état.
>>17268779This is just based multipolarity and national sovereignty
>>17268707You have to remember that many people who got targetted was because they either were a threat to the current guy in power, there weren't directly part of elite circles and so did not have an avenue of easy control by foreign actors.
>>17268682>there's not a single black idealist in US history that wasn't mixed raceAfro Americans all have non-african ancestry in some shape or form retard. Christ this board is a shitsty.>they were all socialistsDefine socialist
>>17268941Amazing how rich white people are the only people in the world with an agency Politician killed before acquiring power? Whiteys fault. Politician killed right after becoming president? Whiteys fault. Politician survives and turns his country into a brutal kakocracy? Guess what, whiteys fault
>>17268955I didn't even bring up or specify "whitey" at allall. You literally just want an excuse to fly off the handle and sperg out.
>>17268653>every african leader that survived turned out to be corrupt>every african leader who died before his time was about to build utopiawhat a coincidence, africa can't get any luck
>>17268966>every african leader that survived turned out to be corruptThe previous system favored being a mercurial piece of shit and the system after it basically did so too because there was no mass structural reform. The whole "dysfunctional system incentivzes dysfunctional governments/people" is not exclusive to Africa. Every llave has its own similar or unique manifestations of this problem.
>>17268653Hyper corrupt dictators are easier to pay into going along with your own national interests.>>17268676They're competent.
>>17268653white men didn’t do anything. it was his fellow black men who sold him out so they could gain power. same with african american leaders. just black on black violence as usual
>>17268653>idealistJust use nationalist or patriot.
>>17269001Some African leaders were a success, Seretse and Kagame for example. The problem is they did it by being bourgeois neoliberals instead of some dingus hootenanny socialist warlord which completely flies in the face of your narrative.
>>17268653Money + Guns. How else do think?
>>17268653Idealist leaders are the worst tyrants who will murder anyone that go against their utopian dream. What you want is a pragmatist, like Seretse Khama.
>>17268779>This is Colonel Bokassa speaking to you. At 3:00 a.m. this morning, your army took control of the government. The Dacko government has resigned. The hour of justice is at hand. The bourgeoisie is abolished.This is your brain on Napoleon
>>17268653You only think he was non-corrupt because he was killed before he secured his power and could be corrupt.
>>17268963>>17268963>I didn't even bring up or specify "whitey" at allall. You literally just want an excuse to fly off the handle and sperg out.>>17268653>European and American capitalists
>>17269001I would like to make 'Allah is not obliged' by Ahmadou Kourouma a mandatory reading for the entire humanity, but doubly so for you.
>>17268653Patrice was out of his depth and on the verge of committing genocide>t. united nations
>>17268653"3rd World Country" wasn't always synonymous with "underdeveloped", even though the vast majority of them were. But they all had a vested interest in not aligning themselves with the USA or USSR, and pursuing the best interests of their fledgling nations. The faction that wouldn't tolerate this was the USA.Being the richest country in the world with a robust intelligence agency gave them the means to carry this out on every continent. They could finance opposition, coordinate with the ex-colonial nations who had vested interests, and topple existing governments. Putting much more cooperative and corrupt leaders in their place. Lumumba was just one example. He was far more of a liberal than a leftist. But he made the mistake of asking for Soviet aid in ending the Katanga crisis, which was reason enough for the CIA to kill him.
How come Somalia, Ethiopia, Angola, Mozambique, Benin were allowed to become communist during the cold war then?
>>172726554D chess by the CIA, of course.
>>17272655>Somalia, EthiopiaMuch like Iran, Ethiopia began with a revolution fueled by widespread popular discontent. Something that's difficult to turn the tide against no matter how much time and money the state department has spent. Somalia on the other hand only adopted Communism by Siad Barre's decision in the mid-70s. At this time, Ethiopia was a COMECON observer aligned with the USSR. While Somalia tried to win the favor of the PRC. After Nixon's olive branch, the US gave China some leeway in international affairs if they were ultimately squaring off against someone in the Soviet camp, (Their support of the Khmer Rouge against Vietnam is a notable example of this). Ultimately, it didn't matter since China wouldn't support Somalia during the Ogaden War.>Angola, MozambiqueThey had to fight a war with their colonial power to win their independence, then win. Then fight civil wars against western-aligned states such as South Africa and Zaire, then win that with the help of Cuban troops and Soviet support.>BeninCould be ignored because they were hardly the biggest part of Françafrique. Were still subject to a failed French-supported coup in 1977. Burkina Faso would experience a successful one ten years later.
